2023_grads

[peak ferry]

GE is normally like 10% but idk how it’s changed

[normal palm]

it's just that i know some really talented individuals that haven't gotten a return which makes me a bit skeptic

when a twitch streamer does

and has it secured for several weeks

[bright tartan]

less go boys stayed up until 3

RIP

app still not open

[latent sun]

which one lmao

[bright tartan]

google APM

[smoky lodge]

What’s Google amp

[bright tartan]

haha

[smoky lodge]

Oh just some product manager stuff

Product managers 🤡

[peak ferry]

I know a pretty smart homie that got EE in a normal year— GE is pretty darn exceptional and I’d assume the YouTube dude is actually just cracked

And ofc there’s just plain ol team variance and experience/skill in the work you do at an internship

[smoky lodge]

Every person I’ve met trying to be a product manager irl is a complete Bozo

[misty fable]

rip i guess

this is going to the 2 companies

L time

[dire ore]

Is GE == SEE at google ?

My host told me I was fairly close to his own personal rating of SEE

I didn’t work that hard tho about 20-35 hours a week on average.

[peak ferry]

no idea how googles intern performance review works sorry

[glad thunder]

Fryingpan also picked a full stack infra team and he was already prepared for it from previous internship teams being infra, he actually positioned himself to have the best possible chance at getting GE

It’s possible for a twitch streamer to be cracked…it’s not that hard to understand

[glad thunder]

And if you look at the history of this server, return offers started rolling out since 8/12 so he could’ve definitely known for several weeks

[lament frost]

What's GE ?

[glad thunder]

Greatly exceeds

[uncut umbra]

idk if linkedin's algo is ass or there just isn't activity, but my feed has been 70% consistent for the past 3 days

also grokking covers sys design right

[weak latch]

Palantir Karat today

I ain’t ready

Need to practice dfs and bfs

[weak latch]

Isn’t there a grokking the sys design

[slate bobcat]

Good luck

[uncut umbra]

might be lol, I don't know shit

[slate bobcat]

Yeah

I heard it’s not great though

[smoky lodge]

Lmao y’all preparing and shit

Just rely on raw intelligence

[smoky lodge]

That’s gæ

[teal jackal]

Educative contains grokking algos, sysdesign, and dp

I'd get the yearly subscription and try to finish all 3 before year end

[uncut umbra]

libgen has saved me

doesn't the original grokking have dp tho

[teal jackal]

I think it's just knapsack

Pirate all the grokking shit if u can

It's good but not worth the price(but then again, all algo study guides are horribly overpriced)

[static moth]

wait but bring a twitch streamer doesn't mean that he can't be very talented in cs too lol

[uncut umbra]

interesting, I'll try the grokking dp stuff after I finish the regular track

[static moth]

he's just a super talented CS dude who also happens to stream on twitch

[uncut umbra]

sys design I'll do at the same time as well ig

[teal jackal]

Same

Once I finish the main course I'm planning on studying dp

[static moth]

ya exactly this

[uncut umbra]

ok bet

if anyone wants to study together I'm down

[neat shore]

I had my Bloomberg interview last Tuesday but I still haven’t heard back yet. I even emailed my recruiter but no response. Is this normal ?

[normal palm]

Fair enough, just a hypothesis 🤷‍♂️

[teal jackal]

Tbh I'm glad meta is still doing outside hiring

[uncut umbra]

wait wut

it is?

[teal jackal]

Allegedly

[uncut umbra]

are there open roles or smth?

[weak latch]

new grad is open for meta? 👀

[teal jackal]

Not yet

Idk

[weak latch]

Google new grad PM open, closes september 9th, apply asap if you want it https://careers.google.com/jobs/results/123906194302476998-associate-product-manager-university-graduate-2023/?distance=50&hl=en_US&jlo=en_US&location=United States&q=Early Career

[smoky lodge]

idk anything about product management, plus PMs don't even make as much money as SWEs, plus you have to talk to people

so no thanks

[digital cosmos]

when did Databricks remove their Amsterdam posting?

istg I remember seeing it but now I just find berlin

[honest cloak]

Talking to people is way better than coding

Also are you sure they don’t make as much money

[smoky lodge]

*managing people

[smoky lodge]

yes

[honest cloak]

Ah you are right but the difference is not that much

At least definitely not enough to put up with swe if you don’t like it

[teal jackal]

To each their own, not me though

I wish everyone applying for apm best of luck

[blazing dune]

is there a list of places to apply somewhere?

[smoky lodge]

Ew no

PMs suck and just sap money away from the industry without actually doing anything productive

[foggy star]

karat mid?

[bright tartan]

👍

[smoky lodge]

Disgusting

[gilded breach]

What’s your YOE?

[smoky lodge]

0

[gilded breach]

Then shhhhh

[teal jackal]

A good PM elevates the team, a bad PM drags down the team

Only good PMs produce any positives to the team

[covert phoenix]

in the first 20 seconds of the video it kind of sounds like June is calling

[tardy geode]

unable to login to my amazon university account(as i am unable to reset the password for it ) , but I was able to reset for the amazon jobs portal . so let's say someone refers me , for the ng 2023 position then will I have to login into the amazon uni portal too?

[tardy jetty]

720 on circle codesignal

[modest night]

anyone got netflix codesignal

[static moth]

ya

[modest night]

is it proctored

[static moth]

ya

[modest night]

do they give it automatically after the airtable form?

[pine topaz]

yahkuna, i didntknow you watch anime

[static moth]

took like 9 days after the form

[autumn ridge]

I haven't gotten it yet and filled out the airtable

[teal jackal]

how long do u get

to submit

[static moth]

7 days

[teal jackal]

is it 14 days

[static moth]

no

[modest night]

bro this codesignal 14 day cool down rule sucks

[teal jackal]

^

[loud olive]

Is Netflix’s codesignal GCA? Or their own custom one

[static moth]

GCA

[teal jackal]

the 14 day cooldown exists solely to prevent people from abusing RNG, otherwise everyone would have an 840

[autumn ridge]

How long does a codesignal score stay for?

[modest night]

wats RNG?

[teal jackal]

random number generation, slang for stuff thats random or arbitrary

like its kinda random whether or not you get an easy q4 on codesignal

for example

[loud olive]

I remember for last summers Netflix internship codesignal, I got all 4 correct with like 10 mins left but they still ghosted me lol

[teal jackal]

is a 780 enough for netdicks

idk

im contemplating

[modest night]

it be like that

[teal jackal]

780 is my best score

[modest night]

lowkey aint fair

[teal jackal]

is there still a way to absue codesignal retakes

[modest night]

know some ppl ik for a fact im better than at leetcoding but then i get a lower codesignal score than them

[modest night]

nah

[teal jackal]

fuq

[chilly burrow]

Ppl just b havin whole ass convos in the coderquad prs now 💀

[teal jackal]

coderquad is a meme now

[chilly burrow]

It actually sucks so bad

There's like 5 duplicate prs open at any time

Smh

[white escarp]

@chilly burrow you can create a new repo like that for canada 👀

[chilly burrow]

Mayb wen I got time

Rn I'm too stressed 2 do anyting

[white escarp]

Grinding is exhausting lol

[coarse quiver]

Are you set with ddog?

[white escarp]

New grad is like 5 interviews per company

It sucks bad

[chilly burrow]

Fr tho

One company has a 5hr onsite 💀

Like y tf u need 5hrs

Just giv me a job 😭

[white escarp]

Yeee lol

[coarse quiver]

Pltr?

[white escarp]

Any company dude

[autumn ridge]

yo my bad lol in my defense I contemplated not responding but thought it would be rude to ignore the person

[chilly burrow]

Nah a rando startup

[white escarp]

Even a random company in canada they gave me 5 hrs interview

And offer 60k

[chilly burrow]

Lmao it's alright

I just thot it was funny

[coarse quiver]

isn't this normal?

[teal jackal]

its so bad

i honestly wish i got a return offer since the new grad process drags out for so long

[chilly burrow]

5 hr onsites aint normal imo

I think 3 should be max

[white escarp]

It is lol but id hope the money they pay reflect the time i spend to interview w them

[autumn ridge]

Even if it's not 5 hours it's exhausting applying and doing the OA's. I've only been actively applying for under 2 weeks and have sent out almost 100 apps and feel burnt out already.

[white escarp]

bruh idk how to handle these shit when school comes

[jaunty solar]

dont have to worry if ur not getting interviews

[autumn ridge]

My plan is to spend 80% interviews/interview prep 20% school just enough to not fail

And even if I did mess up a class hopefully you would have an offer and can retake in the spring when you won't have to do all of this

[chilly burrow]

Same plan tbh

[white escarp]

not really

cuz like im intl in canada

so failing a course will be extremely bad for me

financially and document stuff

[coarse quiver]

Apple London does 7 interviews for 50k£ @elder locust

[modest night]

quick q are you still considered new grad up to 6 months after you graduate?

[weak latch]

someone help me in #leetcode_discussion i need some of you leetcode goats 😩

[white escarp]

LOL i mean depends on the COL no?

idk what's col in london is like

[modest night]

col pretty high tho in london

[white escarp]

really?

[modest night]

ye

its london lmao

[white escarp]

damn that's fcked lol

idk i have never been to london

i have been to germany

it doesn't seem that bad

[teal jackal]

this tbh

me too

getting a job is more important

[white escarp]

@coarse quiver u plan to come to north america anytime in the future?

[exotic oracle]

Did Netflix start releasing oas?

If I didn’t get one am I rejected?

[modest night]

all the ppl who envy swes and cs cuz of wat tiktoks and youtubers show dont know the actual struggle behind applyin and interviewing

[weak latch]

really high lmao

esp if you live in central london its basically like nyc 😂

[modest night]

50k base?

you dont get stock options?

[shrewd ocean]

that prob wasnt for swe lmao

[coarse quiver]

Maybe in 2-3 years, i try to bag a g Zurich return offer rn

[white escarp]

i heard g zurich pays well

prob the best in eu

[coarse quiver]

Except hfts, probably

[white escarp]

how about the social benefit? free health care and stuff like canada?

[white escarp]

gl

lol

[coarse quiver]

Where are you from?

[white escarp]

i'm in canada rn

[coarse quiver]

50k kinda mid for London

[white escarp]

i think the average for canada tech is like 60-70 🤷‍♂️

[coarse quiver]

I earned 50k as an intern for jpmc so it's quite a disgrace for apple to pay Ngs that much

[white escarp]

unless u live in big cities like toronto or vancouver

[coarse quiver]

1 Cad = 0.66£ btw

[white escarp]

yee

but still the col is different

i'd say if u live in toronto and u don't really work at big n/ unicorn/ us companies

its prob 70-80k average

[coarse quiver]

We don't try to be average

[white escarp]

👀

but i gotta be as good as average ppl first

😵‍💫

[surreal shuttle]

That's the dream

[wary pollen]

So if I HAVENT heard from duolingo yet

That’s a good sign

[lapis cove]

[soft canyon]

did u complete two questions？

[teal jackal]

i find tbh that trying to find big O memory and runtime for graph problems is a bitch

https://leetcode.com/problems/reconstruct-itinerary/solution/

this problem's big O analysis sucks tbh

i cant figure it out

but its a good problem

[shrewd ocean]

what were qs like

[prime palm]

phone or final

[static moth]

idk. need to think

[dire ore]

My timeplan for this fall has been like 25% my “40” hour a week internship, 10% classes with just enough effort to get an A, 50% interviews and 15% social life

It’s actually been manageable

[rustic vessel]

25% for 40 hours, wtf

[shrewd ocean]

bros working fulltime and doing school and interviews

LOL

[dire ore]

Yep

It’s not bad actually

I thought it’d be worse

But I planned it out a months ago. Really thought I’d be so busy I’d be dying, but it’s been pretty chill.

[rustic vessel]

I mean how much time are you actually spending on internship?

[dire ore]

5 hours of work per day

3 hours of leetcoding and OAs

[rustic vessel]

Dang your schedule seems nice

[dire ore]

Yeah the school lectures are recorded

And I just watch them at 3x speed on saturdays

[rustic vessel]

I’m at 11 hours per day on internship

[fluid quest]

Hey does RSU price being calculated once when its granted, or everytime before its vested?

[shrewd ocean]

ask full time ppl

[lofty tangle]

Once

[waxen bolt]

Anyone know how many rounds of interviews bloomberg has?

[shrewd ocean]

3

[waxen bolt]

I interviewed August 26th and got invited back today

[loud olive]

The earliest Bloomberg phone round I can schedule was in October lol

[last belfry]

Yea I have mine oct 3rd

[loud olive]

Same haha that’s too late, I tried to reschedule with them but haven’t heard back yet lol

[last belfry]

LOL same

[livid yew]

average is fine

[wheat seal]

This guy is stacked https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathewchandancsu

Cisco Tesla apple Coinbase internships

[chilly burrow]

They're active on this server too

Truly a goat

[wheat seal]

They are?

[calm shale]

goated fr

[chilly burrow]

Yes

[calm shale]

love the man

[teal jackal]

shit

[livid yew]

dude needs to get a life

[dire yarrow]

isn't he like this guy?

@red heath

[calm shale]

if this doesn't get approved im gonna kms frfr

[livid yew]

prob a virgin, never seen pussy

[dire yarrow]

y u no reply me dm @calm shale

[calm shale]

[wheat seal]

Cisco apple Tesla Coinbase Webex

[chilly burrow]

🐈

[calm shale]

i just took gca gotta share here

[livid yew]

? WebEx is Cisco so I mean lol

[dire yarrow]

ok

how was it

[livid yew]

not that

[uncut umbra]

has anyone taken the bbg final

[wheat seal]

Oh yea I just realized

Idk y he listed them as two seperaye jobs

[dire yarrow]

Bro @livid yew stop bullying

[teal jackal]

who needs pussy when u can have TC tbh

[livid yew]

[teal jackal]

especially if u have neither

[uncut umbra]

pussy or tc

[teal jackal]

better to have one than neither

[uncut umbra]

which one are ya'll taking rn

[livid yew]

cause one gives me more happiness

[teal jackal]

pussy in itself aint the magical cure to happiness

if i could choose between tc and being neurotypical, id pick the latter

[uncut umbra]

nahhh I'd pick tc for sure

easier to work through problems if you have the money to address them

[livid yew]

neuro typical/divergent a wack term

[teal jackal]

i think that if i had the latter, id eventually work my way up to good TC anyways

[livid yew]

just say Autism lol

[uncut umbra]

neurodivergent ≠ autism

[livid yew]

ok fair but ASD falls into neurodivergent right?

[uncut umbra]

p sure yea

[static moth]

ayo chill bro

[livid yew]

tbh I did not know the term "neurodivergent" until coming to this discord server. Like I had never heard it before

[dire yarrow]

you can get pussy if you got money but not other way around

actually

nvm

don't wanna say

[livid yew]

[static moth]

hes such a nice dude, idk why u needed to say that kinda shit about him

[chilly burrow]

Wow actual useful knowledge

[livid yew]

I know, just jesting. that is very pog of internships

I am jelly

[uncut umbra]

mans was about to become an entrepreneur

[red heath]

U r right

[static moth]

ahhhhhhhhh

[red heath]

I get zero bitches

[static moth]

here he is

[uncut umbra]

omg the lord himself

[chilly burrow]

Aren't u like 34 or smth?

[calm shale]

wahtchu sayin, you got me

[livid yew]

[red heath]

he’s ass bro

[dire yarrow]

they gave me idea

[dire yarrow]

He's here

[chilly burrow]

Like aroun dat tho, rite?

[dire yarrow]

@livid yew

Deal with it

[livid yew]

I am 24 years of age

[red heath]

lmaooo u got gf offer

[livid yew]

wanna see my ID?

[red heath]

dox

[sonic coral]

techie getting shredded rn

[livid yew]

bet I will

[red heath]

hi frosty

[livid yew]

tbh I stopped getting IDed at bars around 22

they dont care anymore

[calm shale]

ay we all about that reneg life

[sonic coral]

must be nice to actually look like you're above 20 lmao

[uncut umbra]

just grow out a beard bro

[livid yew]

yup

[static moth]

hi chimi

🙂

[livid yew]

baby faced rob?

[red heath]

Damn got recruiter email ?

[dire yarrow]

Do they actually stop asking you ID at some point at bars?

[livid yew]

[dire yarrow]

Damn

[livid yew]

also if you are regular

[uncut umbra]

I just look old as fuck lmao

[dire yarrow]

i c

[uncut umbra]

world-weary at 18

[livid yew]

the bartender is cute as well

[sonic coral]

my buddy is 22 and looks like 27 lmao

[quartz vale]

nuro will open new grad in October

source : recruiter :"D

[dire yarrow]

lucky duck

[uncut umbra]

pogo

[quartz vale]

Though they said before they will open mid aug

They lied

🥺

[uncut umbra]

bank constricted mega quick

[dire yarrow]

[uncut umbra]

ceo upper management blew a few stacks on some bitches

[livid yew]

[uncut umbra]

boss gets some bitches, I get some slime
that's why I fuck on company time

[calm shale]

its true im bitches

[livid yew]

So that's what was happening in the bathroom on Friday

[uncut umbra]

no snooping

[quartz vale]

Mr Brando @misty thunder

how was your zon experience this summer @misty thunder ?

[dire yarrow]

?avatar @quartz vale

[earnest warren]

Avatar for Joe Fitty#7470

Link as

png | jpg | webp

[serene nymph]

Anyone doing Netflix oa?

[serene nymph]

Possessed cat

[uncut umbra]

one of my friends at uni did msoft, fb, robinhood and is now working at nuro full time

end

[quartz vale]

what's after Nuro 🤩

[serene nymph]

?avatar @misty thunder

[earnest warren]

Avatar for Brando#7391

Link as

png | jpg | webp

[quartz vale]

Niceeeeeee

[serene nymph]

Nice hat

[quartz vale]

Glad you enjoyed it

[shut fulcrum]

I am next to Joe the Cat rn

mans looking busy af on discord

when he shud be leetcoding

[serene nymph]

Anyone doing Netflix oa?

[quartz vale]

it was hard work, and yeah I'm probably going to return next year

I really liked my team

[rustic vessel]

Is nuro good? Both my mentor and director where I’m at ditched it lol

[quartz vale]

you mean your mentor and director left nuro @rustic vessel ?

[rustic vessel]

Yep

Haven’t asked them yet for why lol

[quartz vale]

emmm sad. All i know is the product is very interesting to me

And people are pretty smart and good at their stuff

[deep glen]

how intense is microsofts resume screen ?

[rustic vessel]

Is microsoft even recruiting rn

I feel like nobody has processed anything

[deep glen]

they had NG postings last month

yea but nothing and i havent seen much from them

[quartz vale]

is there anyone recruiting rn except zon

trust me bro

[deep glen]

thought google still on freez

[shut fulcrum]

my recruiter at google told me she'll have an update by 09/13

anyone done the neeva oa? I am doing the frontend one

[tired hollow]

Yep, I did the frontend one

[shut fulcrum]

did u do phone already?

[tired hollow]

i got an offer

[shut fulcrum]

sheeesh

yeah

I can't find tc info for neeva anywhere

[tired hollow]

Yeah, I couldn't find any info online either. it's about ~200k TC, with 40k in paper money

[shut fulcrum]

damn thats sick

any tips for studying for the phone interview for frontend for neeva?

[tired hollow]

Yeah it's not too bad, comparable with other startups in the Bay

For phone interview, I didn't have any LC questions, they just questioned me about the project I built, and asked followup questions

[uncut umbra]

is it worth to do the goddamn project

[shut fulcrum]

ahh I see. What about the onsites?

[uncut umbra]

I gave up on saturday because I heard the subsequent interviews are ass

and because I have so much other shit to do

[tired hollow]

If you have better offers, probably not 🤣

[uncut umbra]

what if you don't have offers kek

[tired hollow]

Onsite interviews are kind of long tbh. I think mine was 4h

[dire yarrow]

neeva offers 200k? That's pog

[tired hollow]

Yeah but 40k is in paper money, so it's less than public companies

[shut fulcrum]

not if neeva ipos

[dire yarrow]

Yea it's still good tbh

[tired hollow]

true

[shut fulcrum]

what did neeva test during the onsites?

[tired hollow]

30min review over project again (they really emphasized the project xd), 45min LC medium, 45min build a simple frontend app in React (obviously would be different for different areas), and 45min behavioural/very basic frontend system design

Your recruiter will let you know the detailed breakdown if you make it to onsites

[shut fulcrum]

damn

[shut crescent]

anyone got a full time lined up in the bay? dm me

[shut fulcrum]

I am exhausted j ust reading that

[teal jackal]

god i wish i had a single interview rn

[tired hollow]

xD Yeah it was definitely my longest onsite so far

[teal jackal]

god DAMN new grad onsites are brutal tbh

the zon be the only company that does easy new grad hiring, one set of interviews and thats it

kinda nice, but also reflective of hire fast and fire fast on many teams, and leads to team mismatch

[floral plank]

kinda suck that it is slow right now

[teal jackal]

im peasant

average person who only feels like doing LC mediums and hates leetcoding outside of the bare minimum is for a fact gonna just accept the return offer and not think about interviewing for another 2 years at least

[quartz vale]

that's exactly me :"D

[teal jackal]

i feel like the only companies hiring for new grad rn with good comp, have extremely high hiring bars

[deep glen]

only one thats pretty avg / low is zon

[floral plank]

hopefully more companies open up

[quartz vale]

isn't zon offering a good first year TC though

[teal jackal]

zon is the exception

more or less

[quartz vale]

easier interview + good comp.

[frank wedge]

That’s an interesting way to put it actually

[bronze nymph]

fwiw zon hiring bar isn't that low... maybe for this server's standards, but i know many people who say their onsites were harder for amazon than a lot of other "higher bar" places

[teal jackal]

i just mean that its kinda streamlined in comparison

[quartz vale]

I guess that's the RNG

[bronze nymph]

yea true, they hire a shit ton, so more chances

[deep glen]

yea i actually didnt mean it as low easy just like u can get easy questions as well as hard questions in a loop

my friend got interviewed by an L7

[bronze nymph]

yea but idk i think the screening phase of other companies is the hardest part, i've done lots of onsites for companies that were longer than zon, but question difficulty wasn't really much different

[deep glen]

seems like hard RNG tbh

[bronze nymph]

just standard lc mediums

[teal jackal]

the zon just asks an algo problem, some behaviorals, and thats done

i feel like for a lot of companies, like palantir, the new grad process drags on forever

i saw people talk about the palantir process and theres so so so many interviews

i guess the one fringe plus about having to go through the new grad process is that it builds character, we'll be hardened for job hopping for promoting to SE2

[deep glen]

Nope , hasnt updated even for confirmed interview dates

[split plaza]

is Palantir that bad

Isn’t it just Karat -> on-site -> HM

[teal jackal]

Palantir does OA -> karat -> fuck all knows amount of interviews

o rly

i see

[split plaza]

for new grad at least

[teal jackal]

yeah im talkin outta my ass

[misty fable]

thought it's karat -> hr -> technical -> hm

[jovial dust]

How much is the base?

[split plaza]

Oh right I forgot HR

[misty fable]

failed at karat gang

i mean i havent gotten my "no" yet but i only did 2 questions

[teal jackal]

can karats be hard?

[misty fable]

dk im just bad

[teal jackal]

ive never done a karat b4 actually

who knows, i might get resume rejected by palantir, but whats the karat process like in case i get it?

[misty fable]

just leetcode questions

3 of them

[split plaza]

ah makes sense

[tired hollow]

Base is ~125k

True tbh, I just yolo-ed it in 1 hour because why not 🤣

[bronze nymph]

damn so the rest is equity?

80k is a lot, if they succeed it's great upside

[tired hollow]

No, there's also signon. It's about $40k equity

[bronze nymph]

ah gotcha, so like 160 recurring

[tired hollow]

Yea sounds about right

[bronze nymph]

maybe i should have done the take home

[surreal shuttle]

What two jobs did you all apply for 2023 tiktok?

[lament summit]

a

[misty fable]

No LC for today

[tired hollow]

I don't think so, they're more consumer focused

[teal jackal]

Which game? Sick wheel btw, racing sim enthusiast gang

[tired hollow]

Probably? I don't know too much about their market

[misty fable]

Dirt rally 2! And it's just a used $30 dfgt from craigslist hahahaha

I'll get a g29 when i get an offer kek

[teal jackal]

Noice, I'm a track racing fan

I play assetto corsa

[misty fable]

AC is pretty sick

[teal jackal]

I have a g29, I was looking to get a racing seat when I get an offer

Like the racing seat frame, the seat itself, and a monitor for it

Playing on desk isn't the same

[misty fable]

List of stupid things i'd buy as NG

[bronze nymph]

nvm, i'm happy i didnt do the takehome

[livid yew]

get your ctypto out of here wtf

web3 is so sus rn

like it could go ass up any day

or become the next big thing

its just too risky

[tired hollow]

Yeah I'm not a fan of neeva.xyz either. At least it seems to be just a side project tho, their main business is search engines and browsers

[bronze nymph]

i think one thing i'd be concerned about, not that i know many details about their business model, but it seems like the main way they're making money is through subscriptions?

interesting, genuinely curious if their revenue is strong

[teal jackal]

neeva is basically web3 and crypto?

tbh

[tired hollow]

No not really

[tired hollow]

Yeah honestly that's a point of concern for me too, seems tough to scale against the main competition

[smoky lodge]

As long as you don’t plan on staying anywhere crypto or web3 related for more than a few years it’s not a bad idea to work for them

[chilly burrow]

I tink web3 is so stupid

Seems like a shit idea

Make ppl pay whenever they need to do a POST request

Smh

[bronze nymph]

yea like, i took a look at their website and it looks like they offer 50 ad free searches/week and you have to pay a monthly subscription to get unlimited searches

[jovial dust]

Are you gonna accept the offer?

[bronze nymph]

in my opinion, most people would just go back to using what's built into their browser, but i dont know shit

[teal jackal]

web3 is such a vague definition

we're gonna blockchain shit

thats basically the whole concept

no elaboration

[chilly burrow]

The real web3:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web

[rare yew]

Where is the link to GAP software new grad role 2023?

[urban gulch]

Oof they should really use another term

[tired hollow]

Dunno yet tbh. Still interviewing with a couple of other places

[chilly burrow]

Y?

[tired hollow]

Out of curiosity, what would you guys choose b/w Amazon Canada (Vancouver) (~155k CAD) or Neeva (~200k USD TC, with 40k in paper money). Assuming long-term outlook doesn't matter for either company, since I probably won't be staying there forever anyways

[urban gulch]

Just cuz I think web3 has alr been co-opted by the crypto/dapp/nft folks

[chilly burrow]

The idea of semantic web is older tho 😔

[urban gulch]

Yeah unfortunate

[quartz vale]

depends on amazon team though

different team in amazon might feel like different companies

[chilly burrow]

Amazon cuz I ain't bullish on Neeva

[tired hollow]

No idea on the team RIP, they randomly assign you

[urban gulch]

Semantic web sounds cooler/more useful ngl

[rare yew]

Hey guys, can anyone get me the link to GAP software new grad role 2023?

[quartz vale]

@tired hollow imo if you don't really know if you want to join a risky startup like neeva, then don't join

[smoky lodge]

What are peoples thoughts on flexport

[tired hollow]

Yeah that makes sense. I honestly don't care about the long-term outlook, I'll probably be moving companies in a year anyways.

I talked with a bunch of engineers there, and the engineering culture and WLB seems a lot better than Amazon (no on-call for frontend)

[urban gulch]

No on call for front end?? Who does the on call?

[rustic vessel]

Does oncall for frontend even exist

[tired hollow]

Backend and infra

[chilly burrow]

Seems like a cool startup

[tired hollow]

Honestly true lol

[chilly burrow]

All i kno is they're logistics

[empty ibex]

The Neeva frontend assessment was fun.. sad they never got back 🙃

[urban gulch]

Wait is there no oncall for front end?

[chilly burrow]

I didn't do the neeva assessment

[tired hollow]

Ye no on-call for frontend

[urban gulch]

Like in general

[tired hollow]

I guess it depends on the company

[urban gulch]

Interestinggg

If there’s no oncall

[teal jackal]

frontend people live ez lives
just make website, client facing fun stuff, backend and infra people tear their heads out over broken shit

[urban gulch]

I feel like front end > backend no?

[tired hollow]

I personally love frontend, but I know people who hate it xD

[urban gulch]

Altho idc much for front end

[teal jackal]

frontend dev itself seems like it would get boring for too long, for some people

[smoky lodge]

TC is generally slightly better for backend

also who wants to be the tech equivalent of an art student

[tired hollow]

From what I could tell, at all the FAANGs, backend and frontend have the same bands

[chilly burrow]

Frontend isn't art related really?

[chilly burrow]

Also not really, at least for FAANG

[tired hollow]

Yeah not really, unless you are also doing UI design

[smoky lodge]

Working on client facing stuff is artsy and gay

[urban gulch]

Actually I just confirmed front end has oncall at Hubspot at least

[tired hollow]

Oh damn

[chilly burrow]

Y tf u using the word Gay like dat?

[smoky lodge]

If you work frontend I immediately think of you as a second class citizen, sorry not sorry

[chilly burrow]

Cringe

[urban gulch]

What r u talking about lawl

[bronze nymph]

🤦‍♂️

[smoky lodge]

Read the username

[chilly burrow]

Doesn't matter still cringe

[bronze nymph]

yea man, using the word gay like that and putting 50% troll in your user name makes it ok 👍

[smoky lodge]

Shut up gay boi

[smoky lodge]

Of course

[chilly burrow]

Guys don't worry, I'm trollin I ain't really homophobic 🤡

[urban gulch]

U gotta at least be funny if ur going for a troll character lol

[bronze nymph]

fr.

[urban gulch]

Otherwise it just cringe haha

[smoky lodge]

As long as it’s funny to me I don’t care

[rustic vessel]

50/50 troll/cringe

[smoky lodge]

How can I be homophobic when I’m gay

[chilly burrow]

Internalized homophobia is a ting fr

Also i got no clu if u r gay tbh

Seems like u coud b sayin dat 2 save face

[smoky lodge]

We’ve been over this

The homies never let you down

Anyway topic switch

I got an email saying Amazon is done recruiting for 2023 new grad

[teal jackal]

valid

[teal jackal]

I got an email saying that your mom had a bukkake session last night

[smoky lodge]

I’m actually being serious now

[teal jackal]

in the chance you are, i mean nobody here can tell when youre trolling or serious
theyre probably gonna ghost ppl for now until the PIP wave starts again

but hes trolling on god

[sour canopy]

does old mission call to reject

[teal jackal]

u heard back?

[sour canopy]

I heard back but it's probably a rejection

[teal jackal]

"would you like to call"

is that basically what they said

[tired hollow]

After which round?

[sour canopy]

Do you have some time this week to go over your final round interview?

[sour canopy]

final round

[teal jackal]

yike

[dire yarrow]

Just go thru the call and know

[smoky lodge]

Never said who sent me the email

[teal jackal]

sounds like a rejection if they call to rejec

[dire yarrow]

Weren't you the bad luck guy?

[tired hollow]

Oh good luck

[smoky lodge]

[dire yarrow]

Like 2 internship with no return offer?

[sour canopy]

yes

[dire yarrow]

Meta and Robinhood

[sour canopy]

no

[teal jackal]

anyways

[smoky lodge]

I feel like RobinHood would be a really shitty place to work

Gut feeling

[dire yarrow]

I invest money in Robinhood

[smoky lodge]

Massive L

[dire yarrow]

What do you use?

[smoky lodge]

Investing in any broker that does payment for order flow is a fat L

[smoky lodge]

Fidelity/vanguard, the UI sucks but at least they don’t make money by temporarily routing your orders to hedge funds lol

[whole berry]

ibkr is decent

questrade picking up their slack too

[tired hollow]

Isn't questrade only in Canada?

[dire yarrow]

I don't got no real money rn lol I just put some less amount in Robinhood to just play around tbh

[gilded breach]

L brokerage

[lament summit]

has anyone thought they aced a final and gotten rejected

I really want to connect with the interviewer to ask what I did wrong lmao

[winter thistle]

What company?

[lament summit]

I was so sure I aced that shit

Palantir

[smoky lodge]

why does tik tok have the best resume parser ive ever seen lol

[sly owl]

I got fewer than 2 OAs and no technical interview except Amazon.

Is it normal?

I saw people getting some many interviews and offers

gg

[winter thistle]

from doing actual interviews and a shit ton of mock interviews, I learnt that interviewing is not about acing the problem, but convincing the other person they should hire you

[lament summit]

I really thought I convinced her

How many companies did u apply to

[sly owl]

100+

[lament summit]

When

[sly owl]

August

[winter thistle]

@lament summit you should definitely do mock interviews on interviewing.io

[lament summit]

I did like 20 mocks in preparation LOL

[winter thistle]

💀💀💀

[lament summit]

At least 10 sys design mocks at least 10 LC

[winter thistle]

okay then idk lol

could be random

[lament summit]

It’s still pretty early

I got interviews but I applie early July

[lament summit]

must b a racism

[winter thistle]

I waited till Sept to put my fall internship 😵

[lament summit]

LOL

[sly owl]

Nice. Do you mind sharing company names?

[sour canopy]

be prepared to talk about linux a bit

[lament summit]

Palantir, Akuna Capital, Forward Health, Spacex

[winter thistle]

Most places still aren't open

😦

[lament summit]

^

Or they just opened

[sly owl]

Wow....

[normal palm]

damn wth is on ur resume/

[lament summit]

unity + amazon

Which isn’t the best

But it’s something

[winter thistle]

Did you mock interviews on interviewing.io? @lament summit

[lament summit]

Nah

[winter thistle]

You do*

[lament summit]

Pramp

[normal palm]

wdym it isnt the best lol

[winter thistle]

okay

[lament summit]

compared to ppl in here? Not even close

[winter thistle]

I Interned at interviewing.io 🌚

That's y I asked

[lament summit]

o

[tardy geode]

is that free?

[winter thistle]

No

[lament summit]

^

O

[winter thistle]

😦

[lament summit]

LOL

Pramp is free

That’s why I use pramp

[tardy geode]

oh is it?

[winter thistle]

I spent ~$1500 on mock interviews on interviewing.io

Then I got an internship with them

[static moth]

yes

[lament summit]

But u don’t really get good feedback

That’s the only problem

[winter thistle]

So they returned me all the $1500 I spent with them

And gave me a $45/hr job

😳

[green bronze]

Mind if I see resume?

Dm?

[lament summit]

not at my computer rn

[smoky lodge]

I just get through interviews with raw intelligence and exceptional social skill

[lament summit]

ask me later

[lament summit]

[smoky lodge]

No need to prep for interviews when you’re a mega genius like me with a massive dick

[lament summit]

Worst feeling in the world

[winter thistle]

yes

[green bronze]

Fasho I’ll spin the block but do you go to target school cuz ur getting a lot of interviews

[lament summit]

I literally spent 2 months interviewing with them, just for them to send a copy pasta rejection letter

These faks

[lament summit]

T50

[winter thistle]

I got my best summer/fall 22 internship offers in May/June 22

I started in Aug 21

It was wild

[smoky lodge]

I go to a T15 school, did an internship every year, and have a gpa over 3.8 but the number of places I hear back from offering to move me forward is only about 20%

[static moth]

i know how it feels i did the asana intern interview process last year, thought i aced the final, like literally murdered the final, gg got reject

[smoky lodge]

and of the 20% I only get an offset from 20-30%

[static moth]

after sitting thru that 4.5-5 hour final and taking a day off of my internship at that time

felt like shit

[lament summit]

damnn

[smoky lodge]

So my overall success rate so far is only about 4-6%

[green bronze]

I’ve done interviews where I thought I legit did absolutely terrible but somehow moved toward

I think it’s likability + availability

[lament summit]

damn that’s never happened to me

only the opposite LOL

[lament summit]

20% is pretty high imo

[normal palm]

i've actually gone through very few interviews with decent success, which seems like a flex but i only have zon + ibm on my resume so it really isnt lol

[winter thistle]

when did you start applying?

[normal palm]

for 2022?

[winter thistle]

mb, I thought u were 23 grad

[normal palm]

ye i am

i started applying in like early aug

[winter thistle]

You mean internship interviews?

lol so confused

[normal palm]

but i kinda just slacked on OAs cuz im pretty bad at lc lol

nah ng

i apply to both though

[plush void]

so low rn no cap same positoion

[normal palm]

haha

[smoky lodge]

I’ve done so much prep specifically for Amazon because it’s allegedly the easiest faang

But 10 days and no OA

[lament summit]

I think apple is the easiest

That is if u get an interview

LOL

[foggy perch]

I thought meta was the easiest until you know

It died

[normal palm]

give it like 2 months at least lol

[lament summit]

[smoky lodge]

I’m just mad how much time I spent reading about those stupid leadership principles

[lament summit]

bro I just opened it on another tab during my interview

[smoky lodge]

[lament summit]

ain’t nobody got time to read that shit

[normal palm]

imo they're actually kinda valuable

[smoky lodge]

How do I do this

[normal palm]

things like customer obsession, bias for action, invent and simplify, are a part of every company's culture but just worded different and potentially less emphasized

[lament summit]

Still trying to figure that out myself

[smoky lodge]

what if I told you I failed the social part of the OA for the internship

like the work simulation or whatever

[lament summit]

how do u even know u failed

[foggy perch]

Same when I applied last year for intern

[smoky lodge]

Well I know I did well on the coding stuff and I didn’t get moved on

So I probably screwed up the work simulation

[lament summit]

o

[smoky lodge]

it might not even have been the work simulation but the personality quiz after

cuz i was way too honest i think

[green bronze]

When January comes imma just just start applying for juniors

[smoky lodge]

but i wouldn't mess something like that this year

so im like 90% that i can at least get close to an offer as long as amazon sends me an OA

which they have not

[cobalt siren]

bloomberg ppl, how many questions did you guys do in the phone round?

I did 2 but i heard it's usually 1, not sure if good sign

[midnight jetty]

Anyone have done process for Bloomberg new grad 2022 ? I got mail for 2nd round after tech phone interview. But the mail doesn't mention anything

[foggy perch]

2

[cobalt siren]

gotcha, did you move past?

[grizzled bronze]

You can't get pipped that early

[lapis cove]

im praying on ur downfall

[smoky lodge]

Dogee

[lapis cove]

what

[smoky lodge]

[lapis cove]

i hate u

[smoky lodge]

[lapis cove]

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schrodinger’s douchebag

this is u

[smoky lodge]

literally

i have no moral conscious and will do anything and everything to confrom as it benefits me

[foggy perch]

Ye I already finished process and got offer

[cobalt siren]

oh sweet, if you dont mind me asking were the technical rounds also lc medium?

and what is the hr round like?

[foggy perch]

Yes

[foggy perch]

Normal behavioral

Why bloomberg

[cobalt siren]

gotcha

were they lc tagged mediums? @foggy perch

[foggy perch]

Yes

Investment banking wlb is ass tho

Much less money than cs too

[lapis cove]

man doesnt need work life balance without a life

[smoky lodge]

ew no

business majors are like 90 iq dudes on average

boring and inferior

[static moth]

hi, for the 1x30 at banana, ik its pretty much oa1 review. but am i screwing myself over by not preparing any LP stories at all?

[smoky lodge]

honestly i probably should have gotten a physics or math degree then gone to grad school to eventually do quant research

im just so much smarter than most cs people that it sucks

[crude saffron]

u can do qr out of high school if ur smart enough

[hasty birch]

No

[exotic oracle]

💀

[autumn ridge]

I think that's true out of undergrad but I'm not sure if that holds throughout the entire career trajectory. I have no idea what the actual stats are but I feel like its easier to climb to 1 mil + comp in IB or PE than FAANG

[smoky lodge]

no im just a realist

[static moth]

no as in, im not screwing myself over by preparing any LP stories? or no as in, no wtf u dumbass, prepare LP stories?

kekw

[foggy perch]

🤷 to me that's like saying cs majors are more likely to become billionaires with startups

Like it's true

[hasty birch]

Former

[smoky lodge]

like im so much smarter than cs people that i want to kms half the timebecause of how inferior everyone is to me

[foggy perch]

But its not a relevant stat

[static moth]

sweet ty love u

[foggy perch]

Pretty sure on average it's easier to consistently get more money in cs

[gilded vortex]

this guy is not 50/50 troll/serious, more like 100/0

[lapis cove]

100% unfunny

[smoky lodge]

Dogee

[static moth]

ye i know lol i did the LP shit for the intern interview

[gilded vortex]

yeah for amazon I had like 2-3 stories where I tried to shoehorn all questions to fit

[static moth]

im just lazy

[smoky lodge]

if i don't get a FAANG offer it's proof that the system is fucked cuz i deserve one easily based on my iq

[static moth]

yes, and this requires reading the LPs. which takes time. which i dont wanna waste

if 1x30 doesnt bother with LPs in the first place

[smoky lodge]

@lapis cove

[crude saffron]

go to ftx

[smoky lodge]

when will amazon employees start giving free handjobs to customers

that's what i want to know

[lapis cove]

meta or google if u can negotiate high enough

[smoky lodge]

ok no if you work at roblox that's a fat L

if i told high school people i worked at roblox

they'd either laugh at me

or think im a pedo

[autumn ridge]

Snap is close if you count bonus

[lapis cove]

meta signing bonus ig

[smoky lodge]

you know im right about this

[cobalt siren]

I thought starting was def lower but overtime you earn more quicker?

[crude saffron]

nuro is prolly more

[smoky lodge]

can swap out high school person for "average joe"

[cobalt siren]

this is chris hansen from dateline nbc

[lapis cove]

stripe pays more if u adjust for col

[smoky lodge]

roblox like the game servers are run entirely by pedophiles

[foggy perch]

I assumed investments bankers weren't paid overtime

[autumn ridge]

does it count though bc private. I wouldn't feel great about my stock being tied to 100 bil private valuation

[foggy perch]

And it was 80 hours per week with flat incomr

[smoky lodge]

the web3/metaverse nonsense is to distract from this

[lapis cove]

stripe was hiring a lot in seattle last year i think

[cobalt siren]

oops sorry i meant "over time"

[lapis cove]

true

[cobalt siren]

like in the long run they earn more quicker

[smoky lodge]

ok bezos slave

[lapis cove]

they do have 1 year equity grants tho

its a bit cheaper than the bay and also no state income tax

[foggy perch]

Maybe 🤷 I feel like most stories I see of investment bankers is they quit after a few years for the chiller exit opportunities

[autumn ridge]

That's true I forgot about that so it kind of protects you from alot of the downside but could still get killed if whenever they decide to go public

[cobalt siren]

yeah i hear a lot about grinding a few years and making a crap ton and quitting

thankfully cs is less stressful lol

generally

[foggy perch]

True

Only way I'd ever work 80 hours is if I got into an hft

Otherwise no way

[cobalt siren]

i feel like a piece of crap writing a few lines of code and calling it a day when i see my friends working until 2 am lmao

[foggy perch]

Nah I never want to make a startup

[autumn ridge]

more like 20 years lol you make 200k in NYC for first 2-3 years and all you do is work

[smoky lodge]

working in investment banking is an easy way to break into equally/more lucrative finance fields like private equity that are a million times more chill

[foggy perch]

Sounds like too much effort for likely minimum reward

[cobalt siren]

@foggy perch sorry one more question but does the em round for bloomberg have system design? If not whats the structure of the interview?

[foggy perch]

True idk if those options pay more than big tech senior or staff swe tho

[crude saffron]

ru trolling?

[smoky lodge]

at the VP level and above they definitely do

[cobalt siren]

no lol im in the US

[lapis cove]

wonder how ppl are negotiating those 250k roblox offers

standard seems like 235k

[cobalt siren]

oh i forgot to mention that they were working in ib

[lapis cove]

based on levels

[foggy perch]

True that's so unlikely to happen tho

While senior and staff is probs a lot more achievable

For most swe

[smoky lodge]

like this:
"I promise i won't publicly reveal the rampant pedophilia on your servers, pay me more motherfucker"

[lapis cove]

ur weird

[smoky lodge]

Dogee

[foggy perch]

If robloz offers me 235k I'll still gladly take it lmao

I just need to ace that final

[runic wind]

Goldman VP < Director right?

If so, then becoming a director is way harder at GS than G L5

[old vector]

whats the format of bloomberg phone?

[lapis cove]

i shld hear back from roblox this week 😱

[gilded vortex]

yeah same, hopefully good news

[smoky lodge]

i hope we wind up working at the same company

[foggy perch]

On if you passed oa or final?

[lapis cove]

final

[foggy perch]

You folk already did final?

Damn that was fast

[lapis cove]

my illinois brother

[rustic vessel]

Gl

[gilded vortex]

haha lmao

[lapis cove]

nah i declined their offer cuz wanted a safer return offer

[gilded vortex]

wot

[runic wind]

Lmao and you are considering Roblox now?

[smoky lodge]

huh

[lapis cove]

lmao chill i think it was the move i enjoyed the company i interned at

[crude saffron]

that seems reasonable

[smoky lodge]

no it doesn't wtf

[lapis cove]

that wld require meta to ever contact me lmao

[foggy perch]

Imagine being a coinbase and meta intern

True death

[gilded vortex]

imagine applying ng in 23

[autumn ridge]

I declined Amazon for Snap specifically bc I heard it was easier to get a return offer and that worked out great for me

[rustic vessel]

I was nearly a coinbase fall intern lmao

[runic wind]

Does Roblox's grant vest monthly

[smoky lodge]

shut the fuck up

[runic wind]

same

[foggy perch]

Snap swe got massacred with those layoffs

Did the people laid off at least get big severance

[smoky lodge]

this is what im talking about when i say the vast majority of CS people aren't very intelligent

[foggy perch]

Nah I would've rejected amazon for snap too tbh

[autumn ridge]

They got 4 months and got to keep their laptops I'm not sure how it worked with RSU's though

[foggy perch]

If you have snap on your resume can't be that hard to get amazon later

[smoky lodge]

not that hard tbh

[lapis cove]

ill let u know when i get offer

[rustic vessel]

Where you intern?

[foggy perch]

Huh if 4 months includes rsu that ain't bad

[autumn ridge]

You would think but they wont even send me the freaking OA

[smoky lodge]

FACTS

[foggy perch]

Rip should've applied earlier f

[runic wind]

Does G nego with private companies' offers?

[foggy perch]

I think it's just gotten more and more backlogged lmao

Too many amazon apps

[lapis cove]

ive heard no, but take with grain of salt

[foggy perch]

I imagine it'd depend on the company

[runic wind]

😦
How do people negotiate, lol

[foggy perch]

Rip y

I feel like they would

Roblox is public so it's real money

[smoky lodge]

if you dont get 350k starting TC, how can you look your parents in the eyes

[foggy perch]

Unlike all those unicorns

[runic wind]

Getting multiple offers within the same time period is hard
And all faang companies seem to pay the same

15K is a new car

[foggy perch]

Google gives 220k without nego?

[smoky lodge]

15k is pennies

[runic wind]

214 I think

[foggy perch]

Dang wack

[smoky lodge]

no amount less than 100k is worth anything

[quartz vale]

when you guys calculate the tc, do you add the signon into first year or even it out over four years?

[foggy perch]

First year imo

[runic wind]

First year

[foggy perch]

Well

[smoky lodge]

depends if i care about flexing or not

[quartz vale]

okok lmao

[smoky lodge]

ok trolling ends now now im serious

i don't have a car

cars are for inferior humans

yes bro

just walk

breath air

ok topic switch

does anyone find the difference between LC easy/medium/hard to be fuzzy

[lapis cove]

leetcode recruiter just emailed me said leetcode is closed

[dense blaze]

?avatar @lapis cove

[earnest warren]

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[smoky lodge]

Dogee

[smoky lodge]

EC(F_p) - trout enjoyer 🎏

[weak latch]

PLTR karat in 8 minutes

with me luck boyssss

lets get this W

[cobalt siren]

isn't it labor day

[weak latch]

yes

[cobalt siren]

no breaks

[weak latch]

i still have an interview 😂

[cobalt siren]

good luck

[weak latch]

today is the only day im available lmaooo

[dense blaze]

Sup b

[smoky lodge]

nothin i just find hillarious to say people's names

i should probably go take my meds bye

[dense blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/woman-of-culture-gif-20099443

[teal jackal]

Tbh same, I could be the next Michael Einstein if I wasn't surrounded by haters 24/7