2023_grads

[slate bobcat]

STOP

NO

THATS A WASTE OF A QUESTION

[young peak]

NEXT

[slate bobcat]

HOW MUCH LC?

[young peak]

116 questions over 4 years. Only about 60 during last app cycle

[slate bobcat]

how much you bench press?

[young peak]

6'1

[slate bobcat]

Jeez that’s all

I thought you would’ve said like 200+

[young peak]

about 180lbs?

[slate bobcat]

You must be goated with all those offers and sub 150

[young peak]

Honestly the OAs became LC practice at some point lmfao

rn I'm at 200lbs but goal weight is 185

[thick shell]

@young peak How’s Google so far?

[young peak]

wife is 5'6 kek

[young peak]

It's alright we're not doing much rn

yessir

been 5 days since i've been on bud

[thick shell]

Bay Area or NYC?

[young peak]

neither, I'm in seattle

[thick shell]

Ohh shit nice, was just there this past summer

[young peak]

I'd prob reach 200lbs once I actually go to the gym

but yeah you got me beat bud

[young peak]

rec me some places if you got some

job security is king ya feel

plus its not like I'm getting 🥜 TC lmao

265

270 guy is a diff dude

but he's cracked out of his skull too

[thick shell]

Chi Mac on U district(got’s some bomb Korean Fried Chicken wings with sauce), Bellevue square park is nice to chill and vibe, Diablo Lake (good hiking spot gorgeous scenery)

[young peak]

undergrad and new grad

i got underpaid tbh

saw dudes getting 400+k

[teal jackal]

Chi Mac is good

Anyways, how tf do I get good at q4 codesignal

[fickle bridge]

Yep, just the free practice questions

[thick shell]

Real shit💯, expensive though but worth it

[teal jackal]

Are codesignal practice questions very relevant to the actual test

[fickle bridge]

There are lots and I think if you solve them you will also be prepared for question 3 since they emphasize coding questions in contrast to leetcode that emphasizes DSs

[fickle bridge]

Just leetcode I think

Suffix matching, hashmaps

It was my first time doing the real thing for a company. I didn't cheat by taking the real test multiple times or anything like that, but I did do the practice test around 10 times

[teal jackal]

Yeah tbh it sounds like I would fail that too if I wasn't familiar

I might start doing practice tests just to see what kind of problems they give out for q4s

Thanks for the insights dood

[fickle bridge]

Yea I think in the practice test I solved like 4 distinct q4 and they were all optimize an obvious O(n^2) to O(n)

But those were easier then q3 for me since I have 350 lc

[teal jackal]

Damn dude

Solid

Yeah you're probably experienced with a lot of paradigms by now

My leetcode is around 120

[toxic carbon]

how much do imc and citadel pay?

[late kestrel]

if they were restaurants google might say $$$$

[polar moat]

While describing situation and task in behavioral questions, should provide technical details?

[late kestrel]

if its relevant and doesnt over complicate things, i dont see why not

unless they ask for it, i wouldnt provide more than super high details

[marble bronze]

Holy shit who is applying to Dell

[limber vale]

Nobody 😹

[rustic vessel]

Roblox recruiters be working on weekends

[late kestrel]

that one kid who is just better than you in every way shape and form

hes so good, in fact, he took up the entire hc for the ng class for 2023

[lapis cove]

brother we are clones lmao

same height weight goal weight and bench rn

[polar moat]

Makes sense. thanks

[lament summit]

Get a room already jeez

[lapis cove]

🥴

[coarse quiver]

These algotrading firms are cheap

U should aim for better firms

[late kestrel]

walmart front end cashiering is a good starting point. you get to sell a lot 👍🏻👍🏻

lots of $$ to be made

[marble bronze]

True

[hollow condor]

Did you have the phone round?

Do you remember when did you have it? I have phone too and they say they will reach out again but still waiting

Swe OCI

I applied in August and with referral

[uneven fulcrum]

Anyone has any idea regarding Pinterest return offers?

[pastel perch]

Hii, just asking around - do people mass apply starting from now for a new grad position when he/she is graduating around June next year? Or is it too early?

[lament summit]

nope its not too early

just right on time

but yes

mass apply for new grad positon if u grad in june or before

[lament summit]

https://github.com/coderQuad/New-Grad-Positions-2023

a good chunk of open positions are in here

its not 100% updated

[late kestrel]

https://github.com/yhiumy/New-Grad-2023

think this ones the better one

[weak latch]

Duolingo resume reject 😔

[quick wraith]

when did you apply?

[weak latch]

When it opened

[quick wraith]

Applied last Tuesday

hoping for an OA

[pastel perch]

ahh I see thanks !

[simple elk]

Anyone else get OA (Test2) for Optiver

Dog hard compared to intern last year

[main gazelle]

Hey guys, any idea where I can find frequently asked coding questions for palantir?

[rustic vessel]

I did

Seemed alright, 2nd problem seemed a bit shorter than last year

[dusky plover]

summer been bussin

[simple elk]

I likes last yeas second problem better

But the first problem rolled me

Was it DP?

[rustic vessel]

Yep

[simple elk]

Rip yeah

I knew the DP for problems too but not the DP for problem one

[rustic vessel]

Also it was troll since there was an edge case of int overflow lol

[simple elk]

Lmao

I got toe before i could overflow

Tle

[rustic vessel]

I wonder if I’ll get a response, last year reject after 3 days, this year nothing yet for 5 days

[simple elk]

Last year i got to hackerrank review

But the sum of my two answers was better last year

I was like 80% on each

[rustic vessel]

How do you even know 80% lol

No test cases given basically

[simple elk]

Because we talked about the problems in the hackerrank review

[lapis cove]

int overflow edge case is fucked

[simple elk]

And i found some bugs but i was mostly right

[rustic vessel]

Oh interesting

[simple elk]

This year i think i 100% 2 and like 50% 1

Def faster than brute force bot not optimal

[rustic vessel]

How long was it before you got a response for last year, just hoping I’m in the pipeline

[simple elk]

I don't remember

The longer they go is a good sign imo

That means they have to think about it

[rustic vessel]

Also I thought it was weird it was labeled as test2 and only 24 hours

[simple elk]

If they were sure they would reject they would do it fast

Yeah last year was 72

My brother got 72 for intern

[rustic vessel]

I heard some this year were 72 too

[simple elk]

Lucky mfs

Maybe they'll judge 24 less harshly

[rustic vessel]

I mean to be fair I highly doubt anyone is using all that time

[simple elk]

You don't get time to let it mull though

[blazing crystal]

Ones who applied to Amazon new grad via referral, on which portal are you guys seeing your application? amazon.jobs or amazonuniversity one?

[simple elk]

Thats why i liked the 72 last year

I could just leave and let it sit in my brain for a couple hours

Made it really fun

Compared to most OA where you sit there stressing about time

[marble bronze]

Oh God the Duolingo rejections are rolling in

[rustic vessel]

That’s seven eight capital oa lmao

[quick wraith]

rejections on a Saturday?

[simple elk]

The untapped was broke for me, so i just xed out

[marble bronze]

Dell rejected me this morning, so I guess it's not unusual

[simple elk]

Idk if i did that app or if i did i didn't get oa

[rustic vessel]

It’s not worth it

[quick wraith]

Is it too late to apply to Optiver ?

[marble bronze]

The bird is still considering my application tho

[simple elk]

Old mission not worth

[rustic vessel]

31 multiple choice + 1 lc medium for 78

[marble bronze]

I stg if they resume reject me while I have a 586 day streak

[simple elk]

Felt like i was back in OS class

[rustic vessel]

I’m prob do old mission today

“90 days to take it” lmao

Os not fun

[quick wraith]

need to study OS?

it is too much effort

Distributed Systems >> OS

[simple elk]

It's just annoying having a test made up of shit that i remember learning and know what to look up but dont remember exactly rn

[uncut umbra]

what's the roblox coding assessment like

[marble bronze]

Isn't it GCA

[uncut umbra]

the cognitives I assume are just dinky tests that see how good you are at some bullshit

[quick wraith]

Do you know how to quickly review OS?

[uncut umbra]

wut

like the one on their website?

[marble bronze]

You said the coding assessment right

Code signal GCA unless they changed it

[uncut umbra]

like I got the email with the two cognitives and the coding

oh does the coding go to a fucking codesignal

[rustic vessel]

I saw this but don’t have time to go through it

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLacuG5pysFbDQU8kKxbUh4K5c1iL5_k7k

[marble bronze]

Unless they changed it, yeah it's a codesignal

[rustic vessel]

Idk if it’s actually good

[quick wraith]

Thank you

[uncut umbra]

fck

I assume a 780 isn't good enough

[quick wraith]

800+ or reject

[simple elk]

Just wait till you can take again

[teal jackal]

I have occasionally heard of people getting in with a 750+

But purely anecdotal

Probably the cutoff is all 4 problems done fully

[rustic vessel]

Got it with 832 this year but had 841 last year so doesn’t have to be fully complete

[teal jackal]

Isn't 832 all 4 problems fully done

[rustic vessel]

260/300 problem 3

[teal jackal]

Or did u skip q3

Ah

Makes sense

Q4 more important

They're generous with q3 if u can't do it

[simple elk]

Is it better to skip q3 or try it

[rustic vessel]

Codesignal gca be like lets spend 80% of the time on problem 3

1,2,4 then go back to 3

[gray niche]

if you do 1.2.4 and have time definitely do 3

you can brute force 3 it doesnt have to be opt

[quick wraith]

What if 4 is too hard?

[gray niche]

gg go next

ff

[rustic vessel]

Ff15

[stray lark]

is a masters necessary to g into ML

go*

[uncut umbra]

4 is always some hashmap fuckery isn't it

[stray lark]

or is a Bachelors enugh

[rustic vessel]

I’ve always had some sorting

Then matrix for prob 3

[teal jackal]

Gg wait 2 weeks and retake

[teal jackal]

Yeah I wanna know too

Feels like a bachelor's isn't enough tbh

In 2 weeks

[quick wraith]

wont they reject you?

by then

[rustic vessel]

Yes

[teal jackal]

No I mean like your chances at the company is fucked

But for other companies just wait 2 weeks before applying

[rustic vessel]

Is it just me or does it seem like not many places are open compared to last year

[simple elk]

Yeah

Basically all the maangmula+

Especially the private ones

Probably no postings but we may get late ones

[lapis cove]

my last code signal q4 was brute forceable with just a hashmap for storing counts of a character lmao

like it was this flip and count operations i had to run on a string multiple times

and i cld literally just do the flip and modify the count and then return the count

[wicked pendant]

ah man i also had that one but only got partial but thats mostly what i did too

i think i overcomplicated some of it LOL

[uncut umbra]

I hate how rng it is

[lapis cove]

yea its super rng

i cldve gotten an 849 if i didnt overcomplicate 3 and 4 for so long thinking the solution was harder than it was

but both were just brute forceable

[simple elk]

Farm cap 1 for free try every year

[teal jackal]

Yeah that's the whole point why I'm pissed off 24/7

[fickle bridge]

Yes def not just you

[uncut umbra]

market's being a bitch rn

is there any expectation on how long cap1 will take to schedule a superday for people who completed the codesignal recently

[wicked pendant]

cap1 is super backed up w interview dates, i got my scheduled pretty quick but its legit in november lol

[uncut umbra]

ik I did it pretty late so I'm worried the positions will be closed by the time they get around to me

[rustic vessel]

C1 doesn’t care about renegs either

[uncut umbra]

any chance they'll actually reach out to schedule or am I just fucked for a few months lol

[wicked pendant]

yeah theyll reach out fine

[simple elk]

This year i took their codesignal then when the recruiter reached out said I didn't feel like continuing

Ezpz

[hasty nexus]

Cashapp and Scale hire non masters for MLE

[sweet urchin]

I know this is true from first-hand experience lol

[rustic vessel]

I do too lol

[uncut umbra]

honestly at this stage if I get cap1 I'm just gonna thank my lucky fuckin stars

[lapis cove]

u have scale final right?

[uncut umbra]

has anyone had their bloomberg interview?

[simple elk]

What was optimal big oh for optiver q1

[rustic vessel]

That’s a good question

I have no clue how to calculate that but I think O(n)

[simple elk]

Yeah

[uncut umbra]

when did you apply to get an optiver OA?

I applied a couple of weeks ago w/ referral and haven't seen shit

[rustic vessel]

Referral 8/14 oa 8/19

[uncut umbra]

tf

I got the email from optiver saying they'll review my shit and follow up in two weeks

and that's it lol

[teal jackal]

I hope I can get c1 or bbg

Tbh

That would be a godsend for me

Amazon reject mf

[uncut umbra]

bbg is bloomberg?

[teal jackal]

Yep

[uncut umbra]

same boat tbh

[late kestrel]

only two interviews scheduled 🥲

[teal jackal]

I'm honestly paranoid that Amazon won't be enough for screening this year

[lapis cove]

amazon wasnt enough for screening last year either lol

i didnt get past resume screen for any other FAANG

[simple elk]

The only resume bar ive passed so far is c1 and a coompany called levvel with Zon this year i think everything else ive done has been auto oas. But maybe im passing other places and they just haven't emailed yet

[split plaza]

yep

[teal jackal]

I passed meta without Amazon last year for intern, but that was because I reached out to recruiter

"hi, I was wondering how my application is going"

Yeah I'm doomerposting indeed

I'm just worried about how competitive 2023 will get

[simple elk]

Amazon is enough i just wrote a shitty resume this year

[lapis cove]

true u right prob just cuz i got shit projects or smth

[teal jackal]

I heard projects don't matter and I should focus solely on LC by now

Was I capped to

[lapis cove]

idk

[teal jackal]

Good enough is probably good enough

[lapis cove]

here let me see if i can find my resume from last year

[teal jackal]

I have a unity game, a frontend web app for recipes, and an opengl graphics engine

[grave moon]

They matter even if you have 5 internships like I

Especially if you're from Canadastan

[rustic vessel]

5 goddamn

[marble bronze]

Uwaterloo mfs be like

[grave moon]

I'm from uwindsor lol

[marble bronze]

UIUC is really good

[rain patio]

Anyone done optiver OA yet?

[late kestrel]

4.0 gpa fukkin nerd

[grave moon]

Has anyone here ever not received an Amazon oa?

[lapis cove]

[rustic vessel]

I got one last year but not this year

[coarse quiver]

bad rng

[grave moon]

It's horrifically brutal out there. I applied to Amazon 8 times (applied to a new position recently), and have gotten 0 oa's

[rustic vessel]

Bro wtf

8 times

[small mountain]

0-8 is rough

[rustic vessel]

What do you have on your resume

[marble bronze]

How tf you not getting Amazon OA with 5 internships

[rain patio]

You have gotten 0 oa's meaning they never got back to you or they straight up rejected you after resume screen?

[weak latch]

it would be rough if you found out your spam folder had all the OAs

[grave moon]

Straight up rejected

Each and every time

First time I applied was with 2 internships, 2 ra positions, and 3 ta positions

[rustic vessel]

You sure you’re not filling in work authorization wrong?

[grave moon]

Recently, I applied with 5 internships (ibm, Blackberry, opentext, and 2 startups)

[grave moon]

I'm sure. I double check, always. This is for Canada btw, and I'm a Canadian citizen

[rain patio]

Have you ever tried using a referral?

[grave moon]

BTW, I'm a 2024 grad not a 2023 one

[rain patio]

I feel like referral almost always gaurantees the OA

[grave moon]

No. I don't know anyone who works at Amazon

[rain patio]

i'm sure you could ask in here or other discords or on blind

not sure how amazon ca works though because im in usa

[hasty nexus]

Yah

[lapis cove]

u done it yet?

[simple elk]

Amazon dgaf about referral

[gilded breach]

Has anyone done the OA for Garda Capital? I just finished it

[rain patio]

2 consecutive doge pfp in 2022

[simple elk]

My doge has a bitchin hat

[rain patio]

[simple elk]

I think I've had it for 3 years not that i think about it

Maybe time to changs

But thatd be weird

[simple elk]

Its actually 3 consecutive lmao

[rain patio]

didnt even notice

[magic acorn]

Has any1 given Optiver 72 hours test? I have received one, needed to ask few questions

[foggy perch]

nah amazon referral gets you oa quicker at least

[compact sundial]

Does Bloomberg loop have system design

[foggy perch]

no

or at least not formal sys design

at most it's design a class leetcode-esque

[compact sundial]

Nice

[lapis cove]

anime pfp lookin ass

[fickle bridge]

Had an Amazon referral, still waiting for an OA since Aug 19

[teal jackal]

F

[foggy perch]

F

[foggy perch]

idk I had an amazon referral and I got it super fast vs someone I know with a better resume who hasn't gotten it yet w/o

[fickle bridge]

For new grad?

When did you apply

[teal jackal]

Did u get final yet btw

[foggy perch]

Applied late July, got OA early August

[foggy perch]

Nope I keep giving availabilities but having to reschedule bc too many people rn

[tardy geode]

would a company where i formerly interned at let me skip karat if i applied for a FT position there in future?

[teal jackal]

Did u already do karat there

[tardy geode]

well they didn't have karat last year

[teal jackal]

Hm

We can't answer either way tbh

Just see

[foggy perch]

Tbh I might be done with the job process by the time amzn schedules me

[teal jackal]

Yep

Amazon probably can tell you're using them for negotiation leverage elsewhere 😂

[livid yew]

damn y'all thinking about jobs on the weekend

sheesh

[teal jackal]

Bro I have no full time offer

Wtf am I supposed to do

[livid yew]

I guess without FT, the holiday is worthless for you

[teal jackal]

Tru

[livid yew]

no paid day

[foggy perch]

Just gotta apply to more places with referrals

[livid yew]

Yeah the next time I do job search, in like 2024/25 I will get referrals

[marble bronze]

No rest for the unemployed

[livid yew]

I wish you all the best luck

[teal jackal]

BMW drivers are so rude

Drivers for the other two German brands are so chill and polite

Wtf happened to BMW drivers

[fickle bridge]

Oh yea that's because their pipeline wasn't full back then.

[split plaza]

can anyone who got Netflix OA post their resume

[old vector]

codesignal sucks why doesnt it let me take another GCA for another company when i just did one

[teal jackal]

I thought netdicks is auto, is it not anymore?

[teal jackal]

So true

Because the concept of codeligma is to reuse scores

And they have the 14 day cool down not for you, but for the company

If you got unlimited tries, EVERYONE would have an 849

They restrict test taking because they know codesignal is broken

[split plaza]

it’s not

[teal jackal]

I see

Imma apply to netdicks then

[livid yew]

ayo

[smoky lodge]

my recruiter told me amazon is done

[plush fossil]

really?

damn wth

[smoky lodge]

yes really

[plush fossil]

wild

[urban gulch]

R y’all fr rn?

[lapis cove]

nah

no such thing as amazon recruiter

[coral finch]

#south chat is dead.. but anyone moving to Alabama?

I got offer there

[winter loom]

is there a way to contact someone through github

new grad repo should have new ownership

theres a billion forks though but ppl still pull-request the main one

[weak latch]

when practicing for a karat should i do company tagged or karat tagged on leetcode

yikes lol 😂 <@&868936794601828492> n word?

[green bronze]

The craziest thing ever is how there’s an entire adjacent industry to breaking into tech

Absolutely wild

[coral finch]

Palatinr karat?

Karat is just more outrageous than codesignal. Karat interviewer no helps or doing correct judgment

[weak latch]

yeah palantir

i have lc prem so wondering which tagged i should do

[blazing crystal]

Ones who applied to Amazon new grad via referral, on which portal are you guys seeing your application? amazon.jobs or amazonuniversity one?

[trim jacinth]

imo karat was easier but way more time pressure

and there's someone just watching for no reason lol

[weak latch]

is that guy just sitting there basically

[terse parcel]

banned ty

[weak latch]

like can you bounce ideas off of them and talk about ur approach

[trim jacinth]

yeah

iirc you want at least 2/3 on the coding

[coral finch]

That’s why I said codesignal on hyper

[weak latch]

3 coding questions in an hour?

yikes

[trim jacinth]

nah

45

[weak latch]

bruh

[coral finch]

🤣

[trim jacinth]

15 mins on runtime trivia and experience

[weak latch]

BRUH

so 3 questions in 30 minutes

[trim jacinth]

well

its 1 hr total

[weak latch]

are they at least follow ups

[trim jacinth]

first 15 for what i said

[weak latch]

ohhh

[trim jacinth]

45 for all the coding

for me they were all different lol

[weak latch]

3 in 45 is still insane

[trim jacinth]

the last one i was sweating typing at max speed

[weak latch]

man in my interviews i like to write out psuedocode

before making the code

[stoic belfry]

mine was on .jobs and then got migrated to university

[trim jacinth]

i think they do say like

optimality is not required

like its nice but just get something that works

then move to next

[coral finch]

They just charge extra for the people watching you dead eye

[weak latch]

wait

if i get a decent karat interview

and another company uses karat too

do i have to do it again?

[trim jacinth]

yeah lol

[weak latch]

fuck

that's annoying

[blazing crystal]

How many days did it took?

[weak latch]

wrong server lol

[coral finch]

You passed the essay on palatinr good works

[stoic belfry]

about 3 weeks. i got an email tho telling me to finishing the app on university page

[shrewd ocean]

did u get oa

[stoic belfry]

yea

[shrewd ocean]

dam it took 3 weeks ...

[surreal shuttle]

Is there any website for finding answers for behavioural questions

[shrewd ocean]

google

[trim jacinth]

wdym answers to behaviourals

[gilded breach]

Like tell me about your weaknesses? Like wym… i dont have any

[languid charm]

anyone here recently done with amazon 2*60 final interview ?

[surreal shuttle]

I don't know what to answer for question 18

[trim jacinth]

i mean

[coral finch]

Then just say in school

[trim jacinth]

it seems pretty straightforwards

highlight things you can dive on in terms of technical details in case of follow ups

[weak latch]

that's an ez question

[coral finch]

I mean the manager behavioral you gonna give you leeway on this

Cause you new grad

[weak latch]

but if you don't have any experience in the industry that could be a little tough

[uncut umbra]

if I click on the "start coding task" on roblox does that give me a chance to submit an existing score

[coral finch]

Just mention sth in schools

[uncut umbra]

or do I just start taking the exam

[coral finch]

Roblox takes existing score

Options share your score one

[uncut umbra]

so if I click "Yes" here I will be taken to the codesignal dashboard with the option to do that right

[coral finch]

Wait that’s the game part

No sharing for this

[livid yew]

could probably talk about a project in school

I mean everyone has group projects

use that

[teal jackal]

^

[teal jackal]

Karat is outsourced bullshit

[dusky plover]

always to india bro

[teal jackal]

The only based thing about karat is that it wastes the company's money

[dusky plover]

half the time i cant even understand what theyre saying

[teal jackal]

I thought palantir skips karat round if you've done it already

[smoky lodge]

My recruiter says that palantir is done

[unborn grove]

+1 they're done hiring for NGs

my recruiter said the same

[rain patio]

^ really?

i have my final on the 22nd lol

[late kestrel]

my god they crawl out of the woodwork to fall for it huh

[smoky lodge]

made the joke 9 times and every single time someone has fallen for it

[rain patio]

damn it

L bozo = me

[smoky lodge]

I even put troll in my name and people still believe me

[teal jackal]

Brother

If u haven't gotten an offer today

You will immediately be relegated to the untouchable class

Bruh

[teal jackal]

The pessimism about the economy this year HITS

[slate bobcat]

?avatar @dusky plover

[earnest warren]

Avatar for riceu#0626

Link as

png | jpg | webp

[foggy perch]

cs majors when one company rejects them during a recession 🪦

[lone rapids]

For circle what is the oa cutoff

[livid yew]

lmao true though

to all you NGs

yeah

as a 2020 grad I feel that

[weak latch]

fuck this is the most frequent palantir tagged medium https://leetcode.com/problems/utf-8-validation/

what a horrendous problem

[livid yew]

LC on the weekend

[smoky lodge]

LC every day of the week

ez

[livid yew]

yeah I guess for you NGs

[native spruce]

is old mission oa automated?

[foggy perch]

huh so did you end up getting palantir offer?

oh ok

fair

oof imagine having sys design in an interview

ehh

idk how true this is

I finished bbg loop and got offer already

there wasn't really sys design

HM round?

ah

maybe I guess?

idk for me EM round was super chill which idk if it's typical or not

wack

for me it was literally just chill questions

yeah

but like a chill behavioral too

huh

so is bbg your main offer rn

or do you got others

oh ok

oh right the meta curse

I genuinely don't know where meta is going rn

with the metaverse stuff lmao

I just wish meta never went to the metaverse

so they could still have good stock price

and actually hire

rly

what were the Apple / Google privacy changes?

never heard of it

huh wasn't aware that was that big

rip

guess meta was doomed from the start

can't say I like their metaverse choice now though either way

[livid yew]

damn that is op, cause my memory is like max 2-3 days lol

[foggy perch]

f

[livid yew]

stop calling it Meta

[foggy perch]

honestly as someone not working at those companies

I can't say Facebook / Twitter's fall is that sad

I do wish I could get that facebook pay tho

yeah

[livid yew]

do people actually deny all those app permissions

[foggy perch]

true

[livid yew]

I always allow everything lol

[foggy perch]

now we'll have to practically live in poverty without zuck's paycheck

[livid yew]

I dont care

[foggy perch]

true

[livid yew]

like I give all my data to FB

huh

[foggy perch]

i wouldn't give data if I didn't need to

[livid yew]

yeah I just dont care anymore

[foggy perch]

like idc enough to use privacy hiders

[livid yew]

like most of my life is already within public google searches

[foggy perch]

I will say

I wonder how HFT pay grew so high

since it feels like HFTs are very independent from big tech

[livid yew]

then I buy stuff

sometimes the ads are good

like

[foggy perch]

ig so

[livid yew]

as a android use I guess that makes sense

[foggy perch]

i genuinely do wonder

if meta will even exist 10+ years from now

[azure zephyr]

WHY IS DUOLINGO REJECTING ME ON A SATURDAY

[foggy perch]

f

[livid yew]

I run beta android, so my data is already getting sent

[azure zephyr]

LET ME ENJOY MY LABOR DAY WEEKEND IN PEACE OMG 😭

[livid yew]

same with Windows 11 insider lol

[livid yew]

bro that fucking sucks

[foggy perch]

really

idk if it's a lot of the time

[livid yew]

HFT seems like a lot of work

[foggy perch]

one day I'll try to crack the hft swe interview

it's a matter of pride

true

[rustic vessel]

More like one day Ill get one

[livid yew]

like I would not go thru the stress of a HFT interview just for the pay lmao

[foggy perch]

we're still pretty far from that point as NG tho

[livid yew]

yeah

[foggy perch]

also huh are you roblox redemption because you already got rejected

or are interviewing rn

[livid yew]

most places stay within the 40-45hrs/week WLB range

[smoky lodge]

Beta male mindset

[livid yew]

yes

[rustic vessel]

Rejected last year for new grad for final, back again this year for final

[low scroll]

for bloomberg phone, do they ask design? or is that later on

[foggy perch]

for me TC > Impact any dayyy

[livid yew]

I am beta male, this is known fact

[smoky lodge]

Nah HFT work is cool as shit what

[foggy perch]

oh nice do you have your final scheduled

[rustic vessel]

Yep end of this month

[foggy perch]

same

also oh so you are trying to job hop 1 year into your current job then?

[livid yew]

I could never work so little

I would be so bored

[low scroll]

@jagged ravine @foggy perch

[foggy perch]

no it's lc

[smoky lodge]

Arbitrage plays and market making are a million times cooler than moving tiny button in a settings page around

[foggy perch]

do bbg leetcode tagged

and it's ez

also have a why bloomberg answer

[smoky lodge]

“Less impact” 🤡

[livid yew]

sometimes I feel like the only person on my team actually getting anything done

algo dev would be fun

[low scroll]

do I have to do problems like design underground system?

[foggy perch]

I'm not nearly good enough at math lmao

[livid yew]

I am curious what is the delta of money you would be ok with for WLB vs TC?

[foggy perch]

potentially

for me it was a basic bfs problem and somethign else

[smoky lodge]

Yes but you’re still implementing stuff

[foggy perch]

my money is just once I hit 500k I'm optimizing for WLB

[livid yew]

500K sheesh

[foggy perch]

500k just sounds like a perfect number in my mind

[livid yew]

I plan to jump there with next job

[foggy perch]

life lmao

I'm not an HFTer so 500k NG ain't it chief

[livid yew]

so by age 26

[foggy perch]

well actually for me it's "500k a year or if I have enough to retire"

[smoky lodge]

yes but a coding error on your part can fuck over the entire firm

[foggy perch]

since to me the entire point of working is so I can stop working eventually

thus TC is my peak goal

[smoky lodge]

bullshit

[livid yew]

depending on your COL, even 250k is a lot

[rustic vessel]

It is true

[livid yew]

yup

[smoky lodge]

if my internships are any indicator at a large company you're impact is jack shit

[rustic vessel]

I have the potential to break prod where I’m interning rn

[foggy perch]

I mean average swe at an hft probably just making something like 1% faster lmao

[livid yew]

our CRs have many steps lol

[foggy perch]

i wouldn't call it exciting

[livid yew]

a lot of automagic stuff happens in PRs tbh

[smoky lodge]

but that 1% difference is crazy in practice

[foggy perch]

ye but we're talking about the impact you feel by doing it

fair

[smoky lodge]

i mean at an HFT you won't have much impact eithyer

[livid yew]

fucking idiot intern lol

[rustic vessel]

I legit couldve broken prod week 1 lol

[foggy perch]

idk my take is work at HFT if you like it

[livid yew]

failed SWE then

[foggy perch]

I just sus on it giving a great impact satisfaction

[smoky lodge]

but it's definitely more than at a mere FAANG

[livid yew]

I made our CR process better

[smoky lodge]

the only places where you'll actually have impact is startups

[foggy perch]

true

[livid yew]

I am one of those SWEs who likes updating configs and shit lol

[rustic vessel]

Startup code reviews are very light

[foggy perch]

idk I don't think HFT work is that cool in the grand scheme of things if you just look at its impact on the world

I don't doubt it uses cool tech or anything tho

[smoky lodge]

this is just cope

[livid yew]

where you work?

intern or FT?

[foggy perch]

idk to me the actual effect of HFT work is like on the same level of coolness as ads work

I see why it's profitable

I just don't think it's insanely cool

[livid yew]

oh yeah most internships end around september

[foggy perch]

ye I agree

[livid yew]

did you get return offer? @jagged ravine

[foggy perch]

I think the tech challenges def cool there

I just don't think the impact on the world is insanely cool

[smoky lodge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXMfkj9ERHg&t=564s

[livid yew]

i have no clue what any of that means

[foggy perch]

also

[smoky lodge]

here's a quant developer literally telling you point blank
that at an HFT you have dramatically more impact than at a FAANG
@foggy perch

[livid yew]

someone plz explain these ratings

[foggy perch]

no shit faang has ever lured him in

[livid yew]

plz

[foggy perch]

eh maybe

I don't think FAANG is super high impact either

to be fully transparent

as an individual at least

[livid yew]

hmm

[foggy perch]

like I agree smaller companies probs give you more impact

[livid yew]

I guess it depends what my expectations are, but I would prob be high EE/GE

[smoky lodge]

as a quant dev you literally collab and meet with the people using your stuff daily

[foggy perch]

but also lmao no shit coding jesus was never enticed by a faang when he can work at companies that pay him 3x the salary

[livid yew]

I almost am always doing extra work lol

like outside of my daily tasks

[smoky lodge]

i think so

[livid yew]

oh yeah I would for sure have all that done easy

like the 40hrs of work I have every week/ I am probably done by like Wednesday

I am good at coding, but terrible at LC

huh no, I am FTE somewhere else

who keeps reacting, the fuck

@pulsar mural is that you?

I was just curious about the process

seems pretty simple

and well defined

yeah I currently work at boomer company

I am just in this chat to see whats up lol

2020 graduation

2020 was an equally bad hiring season

cause COVID had just dropped

then the new COVID DLC kept dropping lol

[foggy perch]

oh

so are you chilling

or actually job searching again

[livid yew]

I just started new job in June, so chilling for a bit

[foggy perch]

oh

i c i c

[livid yew]

prob thru at least June next year

I like to have at least 1 full year before jumping

[foggy perch]

makes sense

[livid yew]

cause then you learn some stuff, looks less sus

[foggy perch]

I'll probably only job hop in < 2 years if I somehow get an HFT offer while working lmao

[livid yew]

my last jump, I went from 80K TC to 135K TC

[foggy perch]

nice

[livid yew]

so good first jump

yup

[foggy perch]

this us or canada

[livid yew]

us

[rustic vessel]

Lcol?

[livid yew]

currently LCOL, moving to MCOL

like LMCOL

[foggy perch]

nice

[plain pelican]

What’s HFT

also anyone down to run some apex

how do u get into that I just be doing full stack

just LC? Weird

ah cool

[rustic vessel]

Be a god

[livid yew]

sure lol

[plain pelican]

yeah I’m FT rn as SWE, 22 grad

Aight add my account: Aerazix (I’m on ps4)

[weak latch]

everyone so far has said Duolingo reject in #2023_grad_process

😳

[lapis cove]

they droppin those weekend rejects

[livid yew]

lmao you posted in every chat

[livid yew]

its prob automatic or something

I mean Monday is a holiday so

[smoky lodge]

A coding error on your part at an HFT can fuck up the entire firm

The only places you’ll actually have a lot of “impact” are startups

[plain pelican]

bro I’m just trynna game😭

[livid yew]

fair enough

but I want to get a 3rd

[plain pelican]

n meet some new heads

[livid yew]

*and

[plain pelican]

bet will lyk if someone’s down

[livid yew]

what is the letter n short for and now?

[lapis cove]

and

[plain pelican]

And

[livid yew]

bro that is some zoomer shit

[lapis cove]

bruh

[livid yew]

I have never seen that before

[lapis cove]

n has been and for like centuries

[livid yew]

I have never used "n"

[lapis cove]

like unironically lol

[livid yew]

like what

[plain pelican]

it’s not like lingo tbh, just shorter

[livid yew]

I type sentences in text messages idk

fuck me I guess

I was never very "online" growing up

bruh im 24

[plain pelican]

LMAO

yo I feel mad old since I graduated ngl

[lapis cove]

its not even text speech

[plain pelican]

my life’s already over

[livid yew]

true

[plain pelican]

I’m trynna die by 30

[livid yew]

I felt old when I turned 21

after that age is useless

[smoky lodge]

i want to making close to a million a year when im 35

[plain pelican]

Money don’t bring u happiness bozo

[smoky lodge]

im literally an unfeeling robot that just want big financial numbers

leave me alone

[plain pelican]

It’s okay ur gonna find someone to love and love u back

[smoky lodge]

dont care

like straight up this is unhealthy but getting paychecks literally gives me a rush that feels like cocaine

[livid yew]

the fuck

I really dont care about the SWE pay

[plain pelican]

i think we have gamified life😭

[livid yew]

like that was never my motivator for going into CS

[plain pelican]

i respect that

[livid yew]

sure right

but idk

[smoky lodge]

https://money.com/money-cocaine-brain-psychology-investing/

[livid yew]

I would be happy with the 500k

I mean yes cocaine is fun

but in moderation

[smoky lodge]

i don't even care about what id do with the big number but getting big numbers is the goal in and of itself

[plain pelican]

i feel u just gotta live comfortable, after a certain point it doesn’t matter and ur chasing something that Isint gonna help u

[plain pelican]

Give it to me

[livid yew]

like the big money, nobody cares,

[smoky lodge]

but its fun

🗿

[peak ferry]

I got a nice offer was happy for like 10 minutes and went back to being a doomer basically immediately. not that satisfying. Hedonic treadmill is a bitch

[livid yew]

I would prob be equally happy with 100K or 300K

[smoky lodge]

but not 200k

that number is gay

[livid yew]

idk I picked random numbers

[smoky lodge]

this is so much fun i love it

[green bronze]

Someone give me motivation to submit 10 more apps rn

[peak ferry]

That’s the current goal I don’t expect it to make me actually happy tho

[smoky lodge]

ill send you nudes

[livid yew]

it will make your penis bigger

[green bronze]

That's like the opposite

[smoky lodge]

real

[green bronze]

idk what i expected from yall but i'll take it

[smoky lodge]

i dont really give a shit about happiness

[peak ferry]

Temporarily

[smoky lodge]

i just want the numbers

the key to making pointlessly large amounts of money is to just stop caring about your own inner state

become a machine

[sonic coral]

You ok dude

[plain pelican]

Add me in the meantime I find someone

[smoky lodge]

[plucky hinge]

Whats the timeline to apply to full time roles?

What is considered too late? And what is the best period to apply?

[smoky lodge]

you're already too late bozo

it's over

[peak ferry]

Best time: couple weeks ago, second best time: now

[vital meteor]

When is meta apps opening

[foggy perch]

never

[smoky lodge]

soon

they're having a recruiting event at my school on september 14

i'd assume if they open a general application it would be around then

[livid yew]

ayo wtf

money is dumb

[vital meteor]

Cool thanks 50/50 troll/serious

[livid yew]

like I barely spend money

[smoky lodge]

happiness is dumb

[rain patio]

so sad that my dream companies don't hire new grads... notion and substack

[livid yew]

what am I supposed to do with it

[sonic coral]

Happiness is literally what life is all about

[smoky lodge]

says you

[sonic coral]

If you’re not trying to be happy what are you even doing

[foggy perch]

retire early

ez

[livid yew]

I guess

[smoky lodge]

make money

[rain patio]

i hope that means some of my friends who interned at meta and didn't get GE are getting return offers

[livid yew]

but I still enjoy software enough to at least want to do it til 40

[foggy perch]

idk my take is more money will never hurt, because it just means you have more freedom to choose what you want to do in life

eh

[foggy perch]

even if I strongly enjoy swe, I'd rather have it be a part-time and have enough money to just try everything in life

like travelling

or even expensive sports like skydiving at least once

[sonic coral]

I know you love trolling but if you’re serious in this case you should really reevaluate your mindset because that’s a one way train to constant depression

[rain patio]

no way they don't give their non-GE interns return offers while hiring externals right??

[peak ferry]

how do I get off

[sonic coral]

You should find some stuff that’s fulfilling to you and pursue them

[crude saffron]

money buys manga box sets

[livid yew]

I am getting out of this chat

yall are fucked up

[stoic belfry]

skydiving is like $300 go do it tmr :,P

[livid yew]

bet

[foggy perch]

ok pshh

maybe more expensive sports then

[crude saffron]

cit qt recruiters are trolling me

[smoky lodge]

nah if you think about it for a moment there really isn't a reason you can give for caring about your own happiness. why be happy? is just as subjective/pointless a question as any and you can give any answer you want to it, including "my own happiness doesn't actually matter that much to me"

[foggy perch]

like paramotoring sounds super cool

[crude saffron]

hopefully alameda

[foggy perch]

but also super expensive

[smoky lodge]

W

[livid yew]

me being happy, makes other people happy?

[crude saffron]

my friend referred and i haven't heard anything in like 1.5 weeks

[livid yew]

🤷

[crude saffron]

im being forced to fly to the bahamas for alameda rip

[sonic coral]

I mean look im not a mental health professional so this is way above my paygrade but like you should honestly consider therapy

[peak ferry]

no bro I feel the fucking cit recruiter troll vibes-- I got asked to schedule phone and then ghosted for like 2 weeks before being asked again. I'm 1 week into waiting for finals to get scheduled

[foggy perch]

alameda?

[sonic coral]

And im not saying this in a bad way, everyone should get therapy if they can

[livid yew]

[smoky lodge]

my point is that choosing to value your own happiness is your own choice and not "the obvious point of life" which is a smooth brain take

[foggy perch]

also sounds like citadel is the amazon of HFTs

[sonic coral]

It’s a form of mental hygiene imo

[crude saffron]

they're renting me a car to drive which is cool

[livid yew]

the main goal of humans, is to reproduce, i.e have lots of sex

[foggy perch]

nah my main goal is to maximize my dopamine

thus maximize pleasure

[crude saffron]

yakhub is ur team nyc or chi or miami based?

[smoky lodge]

there is no main goal of humans

you can make up whatever goal you want

[fresh lagoon]

[sonic coral]

At least for me like the way I see it, we’re all apes on a spinning ball of dirt in the middle of a massive dark universe so we might as well make the most of it

[livid yew]

earth is flat though

[foggy perch]

sorry I need long-term dopamine optimization

[sonic coral]

In less than a century it’s gonna be lights out

[foggy perch]

gambling too inefficient

[sonic coral]

And then what

[peak ferry]

bro I hope cit isn't ready to ship a bunch of teams to miami yet cuz I really don't want to move to fucking miami

[smoky lodge]

except that the assumption here is that whatever i choose makes me happy which I don't think is necessarily true

[crude saffron]

miami is mostly symbolic atm from what i hear

[foggy perch]

imagine forcing people to work in florida, a fate worse than death

[smoky lodge]

you can value things other than your own happiness it's not hard to understand

[crude saffron]

most peeps are still nyc or chi

nice im tryna recruit for the nyc cit office. the ny hours are better esp for options

[smoky lodge]

Money > all

[livid yew]

I am just trying to understand this. @sonic coral can agree I usually have many smooth brain retarded takes, but even I dont get this?

[peak ferry]

lmaoo I didn't realize it was THAT symbolic jfc

[sonic coral]

Money is simply a means to (at least an attempt for) happiness

[foggy perch]

true

but if my happiness is buying 20 Lamborghinis, money = happiness

[smoky lodge]

i've decided that for me money is the end in and of itself and I don't care about my own happiness at least not now

[sonic coral]

If you have racks upon racks upon racks but aren’t spending it then you’re still saving up for future happiness

So ultimately the goal is happiness

[crude saffron]

money buys malaria nets QED

[sonic coral]

If not now

[smoky lodge]

no but im not gonna spend it in the future

[livid yew]

to each their own I guess

[sonic coral]

Than the future

[livid yew]

I have no need for lots of money right now lol

[sonic coral]

So are you planning on setting up your future generations or what

[manic spear]

the car won’t make you happy truss

[foggy perch]

ok better solution

hard drugs

[sonic coral]

Going 200mph before you crash into a pole and die will tho

At least for that moment

[livid yew]

again hard drugs are fun, but in moderation

[smoky lodge]

the goal is just to accumulate large amounts right now and i have no conception of what to do beyond that

maybe once i hit 10 million or something I just say bet and then euthanize myself knowing that i did my goal

[manic spear]

this is the way

[livid yew]

allegedly

[foggy perch]

me getting ready to do a line of cocaine after a juice cleanse

[sonic coral]

Bro. Life isn’t a scoreboard of who has the most money

[smoky lodge]

says who

[livid yew]

I am not going into details about my college adventures

[sonic coral]

Is there seriously NOTHING that makes you happy in life

[livid yew]

but I tried several things

[sonic coral]

Like do you not have anything you enjoy doing?

At all?

[smoky lodge]

it's not that nothing makes me happy just that maximizing happiness is not the goal

[vital meteor]

Cocaine overrated, mdma is way better

[livid yew]

true

very true

[peak ferry]

drugs are bad

that's why you should give em all to me for safe keeping

[livid yew]

L take

[smoky lodge]

i don't give a shit about drugs

[sonic coral]

I mean… you do you man

[livid yew]

you would never survive a club weekend with me then lol

[sonic coral]

If just accumulating mass wealth and then dying is your goal idk what to say ngl

[peak ferry]

probably not

[sonic coral]

Good luck I guess

[livid yew]

it gets uhhh chaotic

[smoky lodge]

i think something is wrong with me cuz i've done so much shit but am not addicted to anything

[livid yew]

wait that is better though

lol

addiction is bad

[manic spear]

warren buffett mentality but he’s chilling tho so i can see the appeal

[sonic coral]

Techie I feel like you’re the kinda person who’s quiet sober but then an absolute degen drunk

[vital meteor]

Have you tried butt stuffs

[livid yew]

THIS IS VERY TRUE

but like fun degen

you know

[peak ferry]

tbh I do consider it my goal to max happiness, but it's not super easy to optimize for. I'm doing max money until I find something else that makes me genuinely happy

[smoky lodge]

W

[sonic coral]

At least for me I’m less materialistic now

I value experiences more than anything

[livid yew]

@sonic coral we need to get a NYC group-up

[sonic coral]

So if anything my goal is to just have fun idk

[livid yew]

yeah, all the NYC/area FTs should meet up

bro we go to some raves

[peak ferry]

didn't understand this when I was younger but this is a based take

[smoky lodge]

experiences are literally worthless you forget them all when you get old and when you die

meanwhile money exists after you die

thus money >>>> experience

[livid yew]

bro I already forgot what I had for breakfast

[sonic coral]

I mean you still can’t use that money when you die

[livid yew]

lmao

[livid yew]

your kids can

[sonic coral]

Whereas if you live in the moment

[smoky lodge]

but it's still here

[smoky lodge]

literally impossible unless you're a gold fish

[livid yew]

[sonic coral]

How is it impossible to take life one day at a time lol

[livid yew]

new weeb signs ol

[manic spear]

or your country implodes like venezuela and your money is worth its weight in dirt

[livid yew]

Look as someone with ADHD, Anxiety and on the ASD scale, I understand that

shit gets chaotic

[sonic coral]

Eventually the sun will freeze over and everything in the universe will die

[smoky lodge]

in which case my money has equal value to experiences

both vanish

[smoky lodge]

but one lasts longer

[livid yew]

this convo getting intense, Im grabbing a beer.

hold up a minute

[smoky lodge]

also assuming i can't survive the sun dying

i might be built different

[livid yew]

[sonic coral]

Live for today man, enjoy life, yes you’ll eventually forget it in the future or you’ll die before then who knows but just enjoy life

That’s my take at least

[smoky lodge]

L

[livid yew]

I am moving in 2 weeks, so I gotta empty my fridge somehow

[manic spear]

but in one scenario you weren’t slaving for dollars

[smoky lodge]

in both my experiences vanish when i die so it literally does not matter

[sonic coral]

But everything will vanish when you die

[livid yew]

@fossil haven i see you reacting