2023_grads

[prime palm]

boi boys

[shrewd ivy]

Was this after phone or final?

[smoky lodge]

I’ve been rejected by 6 places

I’ve applied to over 50

What’s considered a low gpa?

what’s considered a high gpa

3.7?

[weak latch]

i've been rejected by 0 places

[foggy perch]

to be fair bbg is at least mid tier product wise

[shrewd ivy]

News and Bloomberg terminal

[foggy perch]

just look at what meta is producing

[weak latch]

guys do you like my avatar

[livid yew]

[smoky lodge]

The only place that resume rejected me was data dog but then I applied again a week later and got an OA ☠️

[livid yew]

that is so terrible

[smoky lodge]

Every other rejection was my own fault in an interview or bombing an OA

[livid yew]

mark zuckerberg is an idiot

Facebook was cool when it was like OG facebook and early instagram tbh

ayo discord just died for like 5min lmao

[gilded dust]

I don’t know how meta will recover tbh

[livid yew]

Facebook was cool back in the OG facebook days and early instagram

also calling it meta is fucking joke. it will forever be Facebook, change my mind

[slim marsh]

Well i got rejected by amazon. I can’t- and the interview had gone so well?

[shrewd ivy]

Meta pronouns changed to meta don’t dead name they them please

[livid yew]

Meta is retarded, change me mind

[weak latch]

noooooo 😢 sorry to hear that

keep your head up g, i believe in you you'll find something better ❤️

[livid yew]

sorry, blame my old zoomer brain

[smoky lodge]

Meta is having a 2 hour session at my school’s career fair at the end of this month

[weak latch]

im having a 2 hour session at your moms house later this month

[smoky lodge]

So there probably will be some hiring

[slim marsh]

Yesss that’s what I’m telling myself too Thank you! Will definitely work harder

[smoky lodge]

I’m stupid not at the end of the month

[livid yew]

imagine blocking your school out, who cares

[smoky lodge]

Me

[livid yew]

I guess

[weak latch]

Sometimes shit happens that's just out of your control. What's important is that you continue to do your best. Remember that it only takes 1 yes, even with 500 nos 1 yes is all you need.

[livid yew]

idk I guess i always assume school name is pretty generic

[slim marsh]

Yesssss

[weak latch]

I've never heard of someone get an interview straight from a career fair

I've seen people get OAs but never like a final

[smoky lodge]

Meta recruiting from my school is unironically one of the reasons I chose it lol

[weak latch]

meta and amazon recruit a lot from my school

[smoky lodge]

So they’d better not stop doing it the year I’m new grad

[weak latch]

wait no not amz i think its microsoft

[livid yew]

damn I was not thinking that far ahead during college apps

[smoky lodge]

I didn’t even decide on cs until sophomore year

But I knew I was gonna do something stem and when you see tech companies recruiting more from one school that another you figure it’s probably better

[livid yew]

my degree is not even CS

[smoky lodge]

gender studies

[livid yew]

Bachelors of Science in Software Engineering

[smoky lodge]

*gender studies

[livid yew]

fuck that

2

too many tbh

gotta eventually pick one

[smoky lodge]

[livid yew]

stg if work requires me to have a pronoun in my email signature Im outta here

[wheat seal]

ivy?

ivy?

[limber vale]

Mike Bloomberg

[smoky lodge]

No but it’s ranked above some of them on us news

[limber vale]

1.0 how tf did u graduate lmaoooo unless u trollin

[wheat seal]

sounds like GT

[smoky lodge]

No but you have the right idea

[limber vale]

Ut Austin

[smoky lodge]

I also wouldn’t confirm or deny

[limber vale]

So ut Austin?

[smoky lodge]

who knows

[limber vale]

No shot I’m doxing this man

[wheat seal]

headcount this early?

[smoky lodge]

It is in the United States

[wheat seal]

its september

[limber vale]

How’s Texas?

[smoky lodge]

?

[limber vale]

U go to college in Texas

[smoky lodge]

Says who?

??

[slate bobcat]

He goes to University of your mom

[smoky lodge]

I don’t go to ut Austin

[slate bobcat]

That’s crazy cause I saw you on campus today

[wheat seal]

prob all interns then

[limber vale]

Can u give a hint?

[slate bobcat]

Are actually serious?

[limber vale]

I wanna try to guess for fun lol

[wheat seal]

w// interns its possible

[slate bobcat]

Cause I’m interviewing with 2 of those companies already

[limber vale]

If ur school is big enough I can’t really dox u lol

[slate bobcat]

I’d be so mad

fuck

They better have new grad spots lef

[smoky lodge]

Topic switch

[limber vale]

Lmaoo

[smoky lodge]

What billionaire wins in a battle Royale

[wheat seal]

yea this market is annoying

[limber vale]

Bezos

[wheat seal]

he doesnt go to ivy

[limber vale]

Actually maybe elon

[wheat seal]

oh

didnt realize

he goes to duke then

[limber vale]

Lmaooo exposed

[smoky lodge]

no

well maybe

But probably not

[wheat seal]

nah its duke

[limber vale]

I just assumed u went to a public uni

Dude duke is cracked

[smoky lodge]

who said I go to duke

[limber vale]

Bro L

[wheat seal]

he goes

[smoky lodge]

[limber vale]

Aight now I can dox u

Jk

[smoky lodge]

Bezos would lose in a fight to elon musk

Different weight classes

[limber vale]

Elon is kind of unathletic now tho

Bezos is a tank tho

[marble bronze]

Divorce court victims

[smoky lodge]

Bro if you’re a billionaire marriage is kind of an L anyways

[limber vale]

What if ur marrying someone who is a billionaire too

[smoky lodge]

Like you have more freedom and power than basically anyone else but you have to act like your at the whim of some hoe

All he has to fall on him and Bezos gets crushed to death

https://tenor.com/view/funny-musk-trump-maga-politics-gif-26249219

How tall is Bezos

[limber vale]

Short

Like 5’8 right?

[smoky lodge]

Elon is literally 6’3/4 and like 260 pounds of pure fat

[peak ferry]

can he run fast enough to catch up to people tho

[smoky lodge]

I’d massacre lebron in a fight

[nocturne oriole]

I vote for discord rando

He got this

?avatar @smoky lodge

[earnest warren]

Avatar for Gedeon#2591

Link as

png | jpg | webp

[nocturne oriole]

What is this

That aint fro-zone

[smoky lodge]

I’d rip off lebron James’s balls

Once lebron is in pain and kneeling before me I’ll force him to give me an Amazon job

[teal jackal]

Do I play ze_harry_potter rn or do my codesignal

Ze_harry_potter is a once every 3 months event

[smoky lodge]

Microsoft.

People are more likely to think you’re a child predator if you tell them you work at Roblox

[bronze nymph]

prob team dependent assuming all else is the same

[marble bronze]

I'm a Roblox simp so I have a bias

[dusky plover]

is anyone getting hit up by oracle or adobe to interview?

[bronze nymph]

what's scale's revenue and valuation?

[wicked oxide]

Does applying to a place with another email again have a negative impact?

[native spruce]

anyone know any companies that are doing in person on sites?

[smoky lodge]

OK

Who’s done a technical interview with Bloomberg

[lunar hatch]

Imc is virtual onsite

Think the Chicago trip happens after you get offer

[rain patio]

old mission

[weak latch]

Is palantir karat just leetcode style probs?

or is there behavior/sys design/OOD as well

[native spruce]

need perfect oa for imc for onsite?

[fluid bloom]

Leetcode but they ask time complexity stuff at the beginning

[weak latch]

oh nice that's ez

what like "what's the time complexity of adding to a self balancing tree" or something?

or is it like, here's a bit of code whats the runtime

[fluid bloom]

The latter

[weak latch]

gotcha

hopefully they don't make me do recursive ones

i always forget the master theorem lol i always need to pull up my notes on it

[fluid bloom]

They’re usually for loops

[weak latch]

so ez

i bet there'll be some tricky logarithmic for loop

[fluid bloom]

Ya def watch for it

[weak latch]

where it goes like for (int i = n; i >= 0; i = i / 2)

[fluid bloom]

Yup that’s log base 2

[weak latch]

would you just say yeah that's logn

[fluid bloom]

Ya

[weak latch]

or do we have to specify the base of it and/or set up a summation

okay nice

[river scroll]

everyone who got OA from Scale how was your resume like? I have Amazon and Goldman but still didn't hear back

[weak latch]

they don't want that bezos sauce 🥵

[river scroll]

is there any chance I could get a final if I royally screwed the cog assessments for Roblox

[foggy perch]

did you get >= 840 codesignal

since that's the first filter

[river scroll]

I got 827?

[foggy perch]

next is the deer std + car test which are important too

ok that's prob enough I think

depends how well you did on the cog then

since they do matter

[river scroll]

screwed up so bad lmao I just got one car in the second part

😢

[foggy perch]

🤷

I did decent on car and mediocre on deer std and got in so who knows

there's also a chance you get resume screened out so it's unknown

since it's OA -> Resume screen -> Final

[river scroll]

how many cars did you get

[foggy perch]

i don't recall, I know I got 2-4 for each part I think?

[shrewd ocean]

anyone know what to expect for bloomberg phone

[river scroll]

I did it in Jan. It's random at times you get medium at times its hard. Would recommend LC tagged

[weak latch]

y'all think i can get a riot games internship as a new grad 😂 😂

i wanna apply to them for new grad but they don't have one so i submitted an intern app because fuck it

[smoky lodge]

do goldman or jpm match up to c1 TC wise?

[limber vale]

Jpm doesn’t nego for new grad

Idk about Goldman

[smoky lodge]

also why am i doing so well at banks?

[limber vale]

does ur resume have java or spring?

[smoky lodge]

but getting clapped by HFTs and not hearing back from most actual tech companies

[smoky lodge]

yes...

[marble bronze]

Spring moment

[smoky lodge]

Should I just change the tech stack on my resume to match wherever I apply

Cuz I’m pretty sure regardless of my own experience I can learn anything I’d need in a month or two

[marble bronze]

I mean if they lay out what they want sure

[prime granite]

chenquaa

chenquaa

chenquaa

chenquaa

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chenquaa

chenquaa

chenquaa

chenquaa

chenquaa

[raw wing]

old mission, drw, IMC, headlands

[gusty sand]

Has Amazon stopped sending OAs?

Did anyone got it recently?

[night magnet]

Doubt it

[prime palm]

does anyone know scale AI's new grad process past the initial OA

[smoky lodge]

im bugging out about bloomberg

has anyone done the phone and/or later intrerviews

[eternal mortar]

wondering the same thing, I applied Aug 23 with a referral and have yet to hear back

[foggy perch]

it's chill

literally just do all bloomberg recent tagged lc

and have a good answer to "why bloomberg"

[smoky lodge]

link?????????????

or does the bot give you enough

[sweet urchin]

How do you view “recent” LC tagged?

[foggy perch]

maybe bot gives it idk

I've just been using lc premium since I find it worth it

[smoky lodge]

im willing to get premium

[fickle bridge]

Same but August 19

[foggy perch]

but yeah they literally just re-use questions at bbg for leetcode

[fickle bridge]

Still no OA

[foggy perch]

so all that matters is you get good at those

and have a good "why bloomberg"

[smoky lodge]

i take it "i want a job and hella money" doesn't cut it

[foggy perch]

sadly not

[sweet urchin]

Does anyone know if LC tagged bot is up to date?

[old smelt]

I got a recruiter phone scheduled, not sure about the rest of the process yet

[night magnet]

6 months delay from what other people have said

If u have an interview it makes sense to just buy premium imo

Couple bucks for 1000x that amount TC

[smoky lodge]

The reason I’m stressing over Bloomberg so much is cuz unlike HFTs getting an offer should be well within my skill set, and unlike Jpm or Goldman it’s clearly a better offer than C1 so it’s a collossal L if blow it

I don’t know what it’s like this year for Jpm but these are definitely not as good as the offer i got from c1

And the offers I see on levels.fyi for Goldman aren’t either

[rustic rover]

What offers do you see for C1? I have superday lined up

[rustic vessel]

C1 is 115 base for plano

[smoky lodge]

i was told by my recruiter that the minimum salary for all of their areas was 115k with a 15k sign on bonus

[rustic rover]

Nice can you nego? I’m in Plano

[rustic vessel]

No clue that’s what they told me today

[smoky lodge]

and i know for a fact that first year TC for C1 is >140k in NYC and SF

[grizzled bronze]

Doesn't surprise me, C1 is generally better plus they have remote flexibility later down the road unlike JP Morgan which is strictly in person and anti-WFH

[smoky lodge]

i can verify that 115k is the number i was told but i was also told it was the base/minimum level for all of their areas

[rustic vessel]

Hmm that sounds odd, they pay interns based on col

[rustic rover]

Oh really? You can one do remote as a TDP when they join? I really wana do 2 days in office max

[smoky lodge]

these are accurate

[rustic vessel]

Nice thing tho is c1 deadline to accept is really late

[smoky lodge]

^

october 28 for me

[rustic vessel]

Think my recruiter told me oct 30 something

[grizzled bronze]

Not in the first year, during your second year remote is an option it seems. I'd confirm in the C1 Discord.

[smoky lodge]

so yeah, for all the meme-ing about C1 you see on blind it actually pays well and has good wlb

[bleak raven]

same except july 13

[rustic rover]

Can someone send c1 discord link pls?

[bleak raven]

140k 🥜

[smoky lodge]

that's literally more money than my parents make

[rustic vessel]

200k or bust

[smoky lodge]

*350k

[thorny pier]

what code signal do you need for netflix and circle OAs

[smoky lodge]

probably above 800

[prime palm]

i got 821 on circle

[bleak raven]

get ur money up

[bleak raven]

i had the exact same sentiment

150k is more than my parents make, i was gonna be happy with 80k entry level, but then i realized, nah u can make way more easily

[smoky lodge]

yup

the way swe people talk about compensation is so cringe

like 21st century investment bankers just without the social awareness

[runic wind]

Bleh
People deserve to get paid what the market is willing to pay
Capitalism 101

Discussing pay is orthogonal to social awareness

[thorny pier]

did you move on to the next round?

[smoky lodge]

it is but acting like 120k+ at 22 years olds (which is technically above the average developer income) is bad makes you look like the equivalent of trust fund baby complaining about starter pay at goldman

[runic wind]

No, the context here matters a lot

When we discuss pay, we need to consider the tech market

120K in the Bay area is low for swes

[prime palm]

yea

[bleak raven]

its not bad, but i think everyone can definitely get offers that are more than that

[smoky lodge]

true honestly

[peak ferry]

Tbh I’d guess that’s close to median for new grad — can’t find good stats immediately, but plenty of people don’t make FAANG or high end startup money

[smoky lodge]

i feel like a lot of people literally don't start looking for jobs until they graduate which is why people are content with 70/80k

[vital meteor]

Wanting better is not a bad thing

[chilly burrow]

this 100%

theres so many reddit posts about ppl only starting a week after grad

ppl just arent aware

[floral plank]

not everyone's goal is to get into faang

[smoky lodge]

when they could easily have got 100k+ had they started like 5 months earlier

[smoky lodge]

true but faang money is like 150k

[chilly burrow]

ofc, but if people knew that they had to apply in september to land most top tech they prob woud

[floral plank]

true

[vital meteor]

That's copium tbh, if you can just walk into faang those people would do that, alot of people just dont wanna lc

[smoky lodge]

i do kinda feel like 100k and up is basically doable for anyone, again provided they literally don't start job hunting before they graduate

what boggles my head is that apparently the average cs major doesn't even complete an internship

[peak ferry]

eh I was a TA who did interviews for a final project in a CS class and I’m gonna be real no not everyone or close to everyone is gonna hack it in a 150+TC job

[floral plank]

^

[frank wedge]

The average student doesn’t complete one, so that makes sense

[raw wing]

i mean not having the goal of faang doesnt mean they don't want it. they just might not want to lc (like you said)

[smoky lodge]

i agree but im specifying like 100k should be doable

[smoky lodge]

bruh what do you even do with your summers if not internships

[raw wing]

if 100k was doable for everyone those jobs wouldnt pay 100k

[floral plank]

there are people who struggle to get 100k jobs

[frank wedge]

Part time job

[misty fable]

Im looking rn for summer 23 and still soiling my pants

[peak ferry]

I also bitch about going to a pleb T100 school, but that’s actually still considerably better than average— students are preselected to be relatively competent

[smoky lodge]

im saying like provided they start applying and studying up in like august

[raw wing]

the fact is that no matter how much ppl say that new grad is bloated its not. theres still very much a ton of demand relative to supply hence the high wages

[smoky lodge]

again, most people literally don't think about jobs until just before they graduate

as crazy as that sounds

[raw wing]

nah i think some ppl are just not as cracked as ppl here

[peak ferry]

100k is probably ballpark of median in HCOL areas (from a decent but unexceptional school— which already preselects people)

[smoky lodge]

some people are but i feel like anyone who gets through a cs degree has gotta have an iq of like at least 90

[frank wedge]

Even the ones that do get jobs are pretty content with their first offer. It’s much easier to pull off a boomer non-tech offer and settle, and most won’t have their first offer as Google or something selective

[smoky lodge]

give me an example of a boomer non tech offer

[frank wedge]

My second offer was Gap

[vital meteor]

SAP?

[peak ferry]

banks pay well in absolute terms but like $120 is sadge by big tech terms

[smoky lodge]

FAP?

[frank wedge]

They only pay 130k Tc in Dallas and most would settle with that.

[vital meteor]

Not right now

[runic wind]

Lmaooo can someone tag Aight

[smoky lodge]

GAP stands for Gedeon is A Prince

[runic wind]

@rain patio

[frank wedge]

Cringe username

[peak ferry]

boomer tech pretty mid

[smoky lodge]

L username

[bleak raven]

when 200k is mid

[smoky lodge]

i hope you get put on a team with shitty WLB

[limber vale]

200k offer gotta be cap

[peak ferry]

That’s 2YOE and an outlier

[frank wedge]

Merkai makes more?

[peak ferry]

average there is probably like 120 HCOL

[runic wind]

https://youtu.be/rceUVaiXQgU

This guy got ~250K negotiated FAANG offers back in 2014

[limber vale]

Not 200k

No shot

For entry

[frank wedge]

It’s SF though

[limber vale]

Even then lol

200k isn’t common

[runic wind]

They haven't increased new grad salaries for the last 8 years

[smoky lodge]

my like best friend IRL interned at cisco last summer

stop slandering cisco

[peak ferry]

Literally factually inaccurate. Anyway not gonna watch the vid people said it was hella cringe

[frank wedge]

Is he a new grad?

[runic wind]

He talks about his new grad offers back in 2014

[smoky lodge]

cool but his name is Rahul

[peak ferry]

Base rates for NG have actually gone up a LOT in the past 8 years

[runic wind]

The numbers look legit
Idek why he'd lie about it

[smoky lodge]

if i met someone named Rahul you bet your ass im paying 250k

[runic wind]

Even for FAANG+? Idek

[peak ferry]

not calling him a liar guessed those negotiated top of band offers. Maybe. Not gonna watch it

[vital meteor]

Yes

[frank wedge]

I know for damn sure Square isn’t 200k

[peak ferry]

And yes specifically them

[runic wind]

Yeah square didn't get to 250K

[peak ferry]

Literally like +20k in the past 12 months

[vital meteor]

Amazon ng in canada used to be 120k TC lmao

[frank wedge]

Or 200k

[smoky lodge]

rahul is an "i'm one of those cracked indians" names

[runic wind]

Yeah I know about the base increases
I guess standard offers have become better

The post-nego ceiling has remained the same?

Like Google has been offering 100K gsus since forever

Like 8+years for sure

[frank wedge]

Wtf is a gsu

Google stock unit

[peak ferry]

looking at a top of band number is useless if you aren’t the top of the top. But also I have heard top of band Google is higher than 250 now

[frank wedge]

[vital meteor]

Google stock unit

[runic wind]

Lol they call it gsu

[smoky lodge]

ok who tf wants to be paid in stock

[runic wind]

It literally was ~270K back in 2014

[smoky lodge]

🤮

[runic wind]

Join Netflix

[runic wind]

Tbf, rn is probably the best time to get those gsus

[peak ferry]

Yea I refuse to support tech influencers so I’m not going to watch the video. But it sounds like a crazy outlier or cap

[smoky lodge]

like that's my thing about stock compensation especially for startups

like tech is known to generally have some of the most overvalued stocks in the entire market

[frank wedge]

You show that chart, but for anyone that joined at any time except the past year has made way way way more than they would’ve with cash tbh

[runic wind]

I mean
I dont like tech influencers either
But I don't hate this guy
And I think he isn't lying

[smoky lodge]

sure but then look at something like cisco

[peak ferry]

Outliers aren’t lies

[whole berry]

today some amazon recruiter reached out to me via email

[smoky lodge]

literally not as high it was in 2000

[whole berry]

scheduled a chat

and ghosted

like what even ??

[fresh lagoon]

If you didn't get paid in stocks are not not gonna put it in the market anyways

[smoky lodge]

for all we know google, amazon, etc are just cisco 2.0 waiting to happen

people were literally gassing cisco harder in 1999 than Tesla right now

[runic wind]

Yeah well
His rockstar return from Meta was 230K

[frank wedge]

It’s not a perfect metric but you can always leave and find somewhere else. That’s a solid 1.5 yr window since 1999

[smoky lodge]

my main point is that tech stocks generally tend to be over-valued relative to metrics like earnings

so it's literally one of the shakiest forms of compensation especially if you get in at the start of a bear market

[peak ferry]

nobody here was around (in the tech job market) in 2014 what can I say. anyway unless you are the top of the top why do you give a single shit?

Base offer TC in 2014 looks like ~130

[runic wind]

At FAANG? Lol no

[peak ferry]

yes

[runic wind]

Definitely not

[peak ferry]

lol ok bud

[runic wind]

Assuming G's base as 100
15% bonus
100K RSUs
20K sign on

That's already 160 lol

And that's pretty conservative

[rain patio]

what

[smoky lodge]

bob seems like someone who copes a lot ngl

[peak ferry]

k why don’t you find an example of this from 2014 and not just assume numbers based on comp in 2022

[runic wind]

Do you think base was <100K

[peak ferry]

From what I see return interns got 15k sign on in 2014

It was 100 from what I can tell

[smoky lodge]

has all these stats memorized to explain why tc should be this high

sounds like cope

[vital meteor]

hi

[peak ferry]

Fuck wrong image

[runic wind]

https://www.quora.com/How-much-does-Google-pay-a-new-grad-software-engineer

This random Quora answer says 160k

[peak ferry]

Examples from 2017

[peak ferry]

Notice how that’s not 2014

[runic wind]

It's 2015, scroll down a bit

[rain patio]

hi

[peak ferry]

Just screenshot idk what ur taking abt in specific

[smoky lodge]

ok quick stats

my hear-back rate is 20%

and of the one's i hear back from

[runic wind]

2015

[smoky lodge]

my get-an offer rate is 30%

[raw wing]

what are these stocks worth now 😳

[runic wind]

160 in 2014 to 200 in 2022 is 3% increase YoY

[smoky lodge]

so my overall sucess rate with applications is

[peak ferry]

says 2016
nego with competing offers

[smoky lodge]

6%

[peak ferry]

Comparing negotiated 2016 wage with below base 2022 wage

[runic wind]

Nope, actual date is 2015

[peak ferry]

lmao ok idk if u want to victimize urself by playing dumb games with different numbers be my guest

It’s just literally wrong

[runic wind]

Ah lol no I'm not victimizing myself
Are new grad salaries at FAANG great? Absolutely, yeah
I just think they haven't increased all that much over the years

[smoky lodge]

I was right

Bob really is a copium machine

[raw wing]

250 stock units in 2016 is $500k now

[runic wind]

Like today? Even after the stock drop?

[raw wing]

it split 20:1 this year and curr price is $100

[runic wind]

Should've graduated 7yrs ago smh

[raw wing]

100*20*250 is 500k lol

[peak ferry]

bruh

[smoky lodge]

Tell me you don’t know how stock splits work without telling me

[runic wind]

No that was a genuine question lol

[peak ferry]

Literally 0 credibility wrt historical knowledge about the market

[runic wind]

I do understand how splits work

[smoky lodge]

Oh you were talking about the fall regardless

My b

[runic wind]

Yes

Lol you guys are really angry

[raw wing]

@runic wind i hate u

[peak ferry]

I’m not angry more so bewildered at how confidently wrong people are

[smoky lodge]

Also fml 770 code signal score for Hudson River

[vital meteor]

bob the builder the show sucked anyway

[dire yarrow]

@runic wind you're a burden to society

[smoky lodge]

[runic wind]

Aren't we all

[runic wind]

Lol
Agree to disagree, I guess

[peak ferry]

not really a matter of opinion but sure

[inner prawn]

If you are talking about that one video, the guy was literally an outlier lol

[smoky lodge]

These are cs majors what do you expect

[inner prawn]

He stated that several times in the video

Stanford grad with 4 years worth of internships that negotiated well

[peak ferry]

Literally comparing negotiated offers with below base NG in 2022 mans is lost

[smoky lodge]

Being smart just means you’re better at doing mental backflips to justify bullshit

[inner prawn]

Yeah it’s a super contrived comparison

[smoky lodge]

And Bob is very smart

[runic wind]

😦
Isn't 150K to 200K over 8yrs still 3.5% YoY

[inner prawn]

@runic wind wage in general hasn’t done a great job in keeping up with inflation, but faang salaries have done a much better job than average

[peak ferry]

Or u can see how insane wage growth is by noticing how exp eng that haven’t been leveled up can literally make less than ng

[runic wind]

Fair, agreed

[smoky lodge]

I love inflation

[inner prawn]

Also most of his offers were sign on heavy with recurring being pretty low, I wouldn’t count that too much lol

[smoky lodge]

Just not the economic kind

[inner prawn]

Except that Google offer was just nuts

[peak ferry]

is he actually? haven’t talked to him b4 afaik

[inner prawn]

Yes he is

[raw wing]

@runic wind u r smart

[peak ferry]

wild

[runic wind]

Why do you hate me

[raw wing]

what

????????

[runic wind]

[raw wing]

LOL

oops

my bad

[lapis cove]

lmao

[inner prawn]

Google, Netflix, Nvidia, Uber, Arrowstreet capital, unless he’s LARPing

[smoky lodge]

i hate Bob

But he is smart

[peak ferry]

ic

[inner prawn]

Tbh though doesn’t mean much, some of those Blind guys make 800k and lack basic common sense

[smoky lodge]

It’s almost as if they don’t actually make 800k

[marble bronze]

Damn why is general motors so competitive

[raw wing]

Michigan

[peak ferry]

Blind is so full of sweats im sure some of them are

[marble bronze]

Or maybe my resume is just ass

[runic wind]

After what stage did they reject you? :/

[marble bronze]

After OA

[smoky lodge]

For internships I got rejected by them from my resume but then went further with more name respected companies

[raw wing]

hes also prob 50 years old

[marble bronze]

Hoping that that's the case, new grad applications are brutal

[raw wing]

just cuz l8s are like 15+ years

old ppl haha

[marble bronze]

At what point does it stop mattering tho

[raw wing]

it literally stops at like 200k

[inner prawn]

Happened to me too, but got something better. Keep your head up

[peak ferry]

unless u want to retire fast or have expensive goals :(

[runic wind]

I think I'd be okay with 200K IF I owned my home

[smoky lodge]

So insecure, he probably got no bitches in high school

[marble bronze]

Hoping I catch the lucky break

[smoky lodge]

bro.

it’s not

[raw wing]

we are gonna be able to afford expensive goals dont frown

[smoky lodge]

????

@fossil haven since you think bro is an insult I’ve changed it to he

[peak ferry]

nah I’m p cheap I just had some silly shit that might be cool like bank rolling an frc team for any hypothetical children

[smoky lodge]

It’s difficulty in general for people to impress me with money

[raw wing]

this is cool

id love to convince my employer to do that

GM sponsored my FRC team it was fucking great

[peak ferry]

wait true gotta use connections

My school too plebe for frc we did vex, which was still pretty fun tbh

[raw wing]

yeah i mean good mentorship is prob harder to get than the money

[peak ferry]

But always jealous of frc folk

[peak ferry]

o also true

[smoky lodge]

I feel like everyone on this server is teetering on the edge of a mental breakdown 24/7

[peak ferry]

Money p rough too, top team budgets look deep into 6 figs lol

[raw wing]

our robots were easily 10k each lol

[peak ferry]

Apparently misc expenses like travel, facilities, etc end up being super expensive

[peak ferry]

tbh saw this as a ballpark and it’s cheaper than I thought— vex bots probably like 1k in materials

But being to make actual custom parts seems so cool very sad I never got to

[tawny bloom]

10k wtf

that's a used car

[peak ferry]

Fancy teams built 2

[peak ferry]

https://youtu.be/0fRt6sdKN7Y

top frc bots are so nut ❤️

[smoky lodge]

boring and lame

[lapis cove]

ur mad annoying

[smoky lodge]

Dogee

[keen zinc]

Did anyone get a mail from msft saying “you’re almost there!”

Yeah looks like that’s the issue

[inner prawn]

This actually has me howling

[jaunty geyser]

anyone had interview with Microsoft

[floral plank]

You got one?

[rain patio]

anyone here at Palantir?
I was looking for referral

[slim mortar]

2023 Gamers

GM

[teal jackal]

So true

[teal jackal]

Fuck jobs, only my university bookstore cares to reach out to me constantly

Did u do well on interview

Did u answer the question fully

O

^

yeah tbh you might not hear back this week

[pulsar mural]

@misty thunder BRANDOOOO

https://tenor.com/view/perry-perrytheplatypus-platypus-phineasandferb-phineas-gif-20072490

[prime palm]

For Palantir, do you need 3/3 on OA to get karat?

[jaunty snow]

Also hoping on a portal change today 🥲

[teal jackal]

damn

twitter is a good company

cracking resume screening must be tuff

youre learning now

tbh if i knew i was too shit of an engineer to get a return offer,
now i genuinely regret not getting into meta

either way im unemployed and fucked

mmight as well go for the slightly more prestigious place

im picking up the slack now

did u do sysdesign?

and did u mess up on anything

hmm

yeah i get why youre stressed

tbh the decision is a 50/50

[small mountain]

[teal jackal]

thats a pretty bad OA1 tbh, but i guess good rng played in your favor

anyways, dont read too deeply into any speculation

youll know your decision when you get it

yep

im hoping that more companies open up as we go

cautious hope

not optimistic, i just hope

[native spruce]

How was the spacex recruiter call

[teal jackal]

FR?

holy crap

im excited

truth

[night magnet]

This is all I’ve been thinking fr

[livid yew]

stripe would be fun tbh

[rain patio]

stripe is not

hiring externally

i heard

[uncut umbra]

anyone know about crowdstrike's new grad program? I wrote down that it opens in sept but I can't find that info on their website anymore lol

[vague furnace]

Thought this was interesting

[teal jackal]

Not surprising

I feel like new grad is definitely a bit saturated rn

[urban gulch]

Entry level will continue to get tougher

[vague furnace]

Hmm, I feel like it’s not. Something makes me think the demand for CS will be slightly stagnant due to pandemic and recession.

[simple elk]

Fang has always been hard tho

thants why ng average is 60 - 80 k

[pallid kernel]

dude i legit had a dream about the portal (actually a nightmare that i got rejected) and i just woke up

good lord

[urban gulch]

Good engineers will continue to be in demand, entry level is definitely going to get harder and harder I feel

Cuz nobody at entry level is a good swe let’s be honest

[simple elk]

I think demand growth and growth in cs grad has been tracking pretty equally for a while

[pallid kernel]

yes

still under review

[simple elk]

this year is just abnormal because many employers are slowing hiring for the first time in a while other than the pandemic

[vague furnace]

Mhhhm, and then there’s also a good number of ppl who decide not to get into SWE with their CS degree. I know a lot of classmates at my college who decide to get into cyber instead.

You can still do humanities and be in tech tho. We could really use them right now 😂

To do what, get rich quick? I keep seeing the same dang startups doing the same dang thing.

Idk I’m tired of startups and companies doing the innovation and our gov not wanting to get in on it. Like I’ll be more happy once that innovation is something like public transit being better, or hospitals having better databases.

Mmm love to see it, and I’ll love it more once our gov makes those things a priority.

[pure steeple]

Does anyone know what SIG tc for swe looks like?

[true rune]

OA

[teal jackal]

Level 2 autistic son + mom speaks zero English = absolute disaster of a move in to college

[pure steeple]

Saw the levels, was wondering if they were accurate based on anecdotal data

[quartz vale]

Do any quant companies that does not have a Canada office allow their new grad employees work remotely from Canada ?

[pallid kernel]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[jaunty snow]

No update? 🙃

[pallid kernel]

no :(

monday is labour day

so tuesday

i look forward to worrying for another 3 days at least

[jaunty snow]

same :((

[simple elk]

Aren't they quant? Seems low for quant

[pallid kernel]

yeah but theyre prob not gonna submit my info today to actually have it update

i heard that theyre slowing down on sending OA and interview surveys, so it seems like theyre just hella backlogged rn

[wispy pond]

Do you have to be flawless

[rustic vessel]

Who knows, haven’t heard back yet

[late kestrel]

not a single email this week... rejection or moving on. wild 🥲

[true rune]

How’d you do on OA?

[wheat seal]

how u guys feel about neetcode releasing his course

[wheat seal]

more jobs will be created though

[jaunty snow]

I feel like he’s still being pretty fair about it, esp with that lifetime time payment plan

[wheat seal]

i mean we have stuff like blockchain that hasnt really been fully realized yet

web3 and blockchain will grow

[quick wraith]

what do you feel about it?

[wheat seal]

wouldnt recommend i feel

[quick wraith]

same

[wheat seal]

just read EPI intro chapters

[quick wraith]

his free stuff is good enough

[wheat seal]

for a refresher

[wheat seal]

yea neetcode 150 is pretty solid

[humble pebble]

his 150 problems were enough for me, if you can self-study and pull other resources together I don't think you need a course

[quick wraith]

Need to finish by the end of the month

[wheat seal]

yea EPI intro chapters and then just do similar problems listed for each neetcode 150 question and then grokking as well and then "All important leetcode links" has some great question banks as well

really no need to buy his course

[humble pebble]

it's nice if you're struggling for motivation and want something super structured I guess?

but still, not necessary yeah

[quick wraith]

struggling for motivation?

look at the numbers at levels.fyi

[wispy pond]

How many days

[weak latch]

how do you do this

[quick wraith]

https://neetcode.io/practice

mark the questions you have completed

[slim mortar]

anyone joined the GM presentation?

[quartz vale]

🙏

[late kestrel]

apparently quite a bit

^

yeah its pretty insane lol

7 days till my phone means 7 days to memorize the top 20 😏

[cedar gulch]

Has anyone heard from VMWare after OA?

[fierce river]

Anyone who applied for Goldman Sachs New Analyst Position and moved to interview round ?

For me the status is Interview Completed, but I have only completed the online assessment

[rustic vessel]

Like 2 lol

[surreal shuttle]

scheduled 1x30 amazon for next friday

[low scroll]

your name gonna change to 600+ apps -> 1 offer

finally

[surreal shuttle]

I would cry if i get an offer

[weak latch]

is neetcode pro worth?

don't get your hopes tooooo high but 1x30 is supposed to just be going over your original OA and making sure you're basically human and the one who did it

and then maybe some light behavioral

should be a pretty ez offer

[bleak raven]

hello wise people of cscareers

[grizzled bronze]

No, not at the moment. It only has a basic data structures course up, their system design is still "Coming Soon", we don't know yet when that "soon" could be.

[weak latch]

$129 is lifetime tho right

so you'll get it eventually

[knotty folio]

if it ever comes

[weak latch]

but ig if its for this current interview season might not be worth

[foggy perch]

why even trust neetcode sys design when the man isn't even old enough to do that many sys design interviews

🤨

no reason to believe so if he hasn't had to do that many tho

[weak latch]

he could outsource the course as well tho lol

i assume that's why its not already up

[foggy perch]

no point in doing neetcode for it then

[bleak raven]

Do I renege microsoft for datadog?

Microsoft:

• TC Year 1 & 2: 190k, 165k Year 3 and 4, 140k after prolly (assuming no promotions)
• If I accept will leave in 2 years 100% (will be SWE 2)
• Remote, NYC
• 10/10 team, working on innovative product redefining Microsoft applications

Datadog

• TC Year 1: 230k, Year 2 onwards: 175k (i am assuming based on previous return offers + no promotions, i think datadog gives refreshers)
• If I accept, I dont know how long until I leave
• Hybrid (3 days required I think), NYC
• ?/10 team (have yet to work), working on very cool algorithm challenge , new team only 4 people

I of course will be able to further judge after I finish internship

but im wondering if i should even try for return offer

[waxen bolt]

Datadog is a super cool company from what I've heard. I've visited the offices and it's super sick. I'd renege in a heartbeat

[bleak raven]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[static moth]

ddog can go up to 230k first year, 175k recurring btw

we have 0 clue what the standard return offer is so far (we'll know in 1.5 weeks) but it could very well be the 230 FY 175 recurring

[weak latch]

how is ddog already giving offers wtf didn't their app just open

[bleak raven]

im talking about a potential intern return offer

working in the fall

[weak latch]

Ohhhh

[bleak raven]

and have to determine if i want to try

[lapis cove]

new team also means more opportunnity for impact and promotion opportunity

[weak latch]

i mean my personal opinion, microsoft is the way especially if this is a return and you know its a great team

[weak latch]

there's also this tho ^

that's a dilemma honestly.

[bleak raven]

i really wished datadog was a summer internship 😭

[weak latch]

are you doing classes this fall

[bleak raven]

no

[weak latch]

or did you take a bye semester to do the internship

[bleak raven]

im on co-op

[weak latch]

ooo nice nice

[fast swift]

where do you guys find job postings for new grad? besides #grad_postings_old and coderQuad?

[waxen bolt]

linkedin

[fast swift]

cuz if i just look up swe on linkedin, most of the stuff isn't new grad tho

[low scroll]

look up new grad swe

early career, etc

[keen zinc]

Got cucked by palantir

[weak latch]

https://github.com/yhiumy/New-Grad-2023

[silk cape]

is the netflix code signal proctored?

[keen zinc]

You got GCA?

[silk cape]

yeah got it yesterday

[waxen bolt]

It is proctored

[compact vortex]

anyone taken the imc oa for new grad

anyone know what its like

and what to expect

[lapis cove]

leetcode stylee questions

[keen zinc]

Taken it, 2 questions mediums

[compact vortex]

what topics

is there dp

or graphs

[tardy geode]

is blackrock OA instant?

[bleak raven]

yea

so i guess make TC 203k

[night magnet]

Yeah mine came the exact time I submit my application

[bleak raven]

yea same

i like that microsoft has the huge discord

makes it easy to ask for company related help

and as a new grad i feel like ill need alot of that

[river scroll]

Did ya ll write the cover letter when applying for IMC ?

[stray lark]

My Bloomberg phone interview

Was scheduled for 30 minutes ago

And I still didn’t get a call

What do I do

[marble bronze]

Email recruiter?

[stray lark]

They didn’t reply either

[simple elk]

sheesh old mission

decided to stop wasting my time lol

[dusk ether]

Did anyone hear back from Databricks after first technical phone?

[grizzled bronze]

LinkedIn mostly, but also Indeed and Untapped

[shell fern]

I feel like this time last year there were way more apps no? I hope things pick up

[hexed moth]

will amazon recruiters know if you're getting a 2x60 or 1x30

[dusk ether]

how long did it take to get feedback

[stray lark]

Does anyone have a list of recruiter emails

To contact

[hexed moth]

for...?

[late kestrel]

to ask on dates, duh

[hexed moth]

i know a girl

[late kestrel]

ive heard of the concept

[azure zephyr]

what is the longest yall will wait for a late recruiter?

it was forward and they were like 10 mins late so i left lmao

the engineering manager was half an hour late for the first interview as well

seems lower than usual at this point, but maybe we'll see more movement since its sept

[pallid kernel]

im wondering if amazon forgot about me

[latent sun]

i blocked her

it’s so annoying

[silk cape]

Same I keep getting emails about consulting and management positions in random states lmao

After setting my preferences already

[floral plank]

ripplematch keeps on sending me Nokia positions despite me saying that I don't want to work for them

what is their algo

[lilac siren]

ripplematch is shit

[jaunty snow]

I’m hoping on it just being that they’re backlogged lol

[bleak raven]

ill feel bad for being mean to my manager tho 😭

[gilded dust]

You have the best possible dilemma rn lolol

[uncut umbra]

what's the cisco oa like

[bleak raven]

im also considering trying to get an offer thatll be better than both so i dont have to debate 🧍‍♂️

part of reason im still semi applying

netflix and palantir i think are my top hopes

oh and roblox

[azure zephyr]

how high is the bar for microsoft?

[bronze nymph]

interviews are on average easier, but it's much harder to get one

most talk about "bar" is nonsense imo

[simple elk]

Msft is harder to get than Amazon but pays less lol

yeah

[bronze nymph]

kinda, msft negotiates and has 10k 401k match

roughly w/o benefits and refreshers yes

^yes, anything that's liquid they will match

[simple elk]

Zon 211 first year in bay

I think thats return tho

[bronze nymph]

as long as it's liquid yeah

yeah in theory they should

they also take into account col in a way that favors them

[past willow]

Hey guys, one question, does jpmorgan chase offer sponsorship?

[bronze nymph]

yes, but i believe they have a cap

it doesn't go on forever

i think it stops at around 280 or so

yea it's amazing of course

radix, pdt, headlands will probably come close if you have competing offers

i think most firms are competitive with one another, so they'll try to increase their offer as long as it's the same role

for example i don't think you can get a swe offer to match a quant offer

[simple elk]

Was Optiver being done with hiring true or troll

[pure mauve]

How long does it take to hear back for Spacex final

Damn is something going on with Spacex?

[low scroll]

yo @jagged ravine

whats bloomberg phone like?

[pure mauve]

U know how long it takes @jagged ravine

[dusty halo]

Anyone who hasn't heard back from SIG after taking OA in the past 1 - 2 weeks?

[random cobalt]

Is it wrong that I already have an offer and am too tired to find another offer that is better than this one?

[random cobalt]

How many questions were you able to completely do

[rain patio]

Not at all

[low scroll]

should I focus on tagged or grind 75

[old vector]

does stripe only get new grads from intern conversions?

[rain patio]

I'm pretty sure this year even the interns don't know (yet) if they got a return offer or not, just whether they are "eligible" for one or not

so I don't think Stripe will hire external new grads, but i'm not sure

[dusty halo]

Solved both questions completely.

[lament summit]

U finished the on-site already

Damn that was fast the apps literally released not too long ago

[late kestrel]

anyone done the wolverine trading OA

3 behav and 1 coding q is kinda wack

[lament summit]

I swear these hedge funds have like a random name generator

what on earth are these names

Wolverine, Seven Eight, Five Rings tf

[chilly burrow]

2 Sigmas 💪💪

[late kestrel]

LMFAO i was literally telling that to someone today

[chilly burrow]

Seven ate Nine 🤣😱

[lament summit]

[wary pollen]

if a company doesn't send u an oa within 2 weeks of applying is that usually a ghost?

[late kestrel]

wolverine trading sounds like my middle school pokemon card trading club

[chilly burrow]

No

[lament summit]

No

jinx

[chilly burrow]

Always consider yourself ghosted

[late kestrel]

👻

[chilly burrow]

👻

[late kestrel]

now what

[chilly burrow]

👻

[wheat seal]

U guys prefer Austin Texas or Seattle?

Seattle is weird asf for me

[chilly burrow]

I'm a Canadian, but isn't Texas like one of the worst states in every metric?

Except they pay less tax or smth

[wheat seal]

Got called an N* and then angry homeless person looked like he wanted to fight me as he yelled. This was in Seattle, same week. I only go out briefly too and daylight as well

Just weird asf

Both were homeless as well

[wary pollen]

Like if other people are getting oas and you're not(netflix for example, it's been a week since I applied but no oa) does that usually mean u wont get one lol

[chilly burrow]

Yeah there's whack homeless ppl in every major city

[wheat seal]

I can’t stand it

[chilly burrow]

I was once called the N word too

I'm asian 😭

[wheat seal]

Wild

Yea I hate Seattle lol

[old smelt]

Seattle is straight depression, Texas has better food and weather

[wary pollen]

LA homeless >>

[chilly burrow]

Ehh that's just anecdotal though

I've heard sum crazy stories aby NYC ppl

[wheat seal]

Where is the next best tech city to work for though

I mean Seattle has pretty good opportunities and nice COL

[chilly burrow]

https://www.cscareers.dev/process-tracking/2023-new-grad

[wheat seal]

If I moved to NY it’d be Astoria

Id live in Astoria

[shrewd ivy]

i did bloomberg phone yesterday, I feel like I did well, when do I know if i move on lol?

[low scroll]

imo NYC > SF > seattle

[wheat seal]

Seattle drug homeless issue ruins everything

[low scroll]

i mean every big city got this problem

right

[dire yarrow]

Yea I'd live in bumfuk nowhere

so I can spend least and earn most

[wheat seal]

Yea ig with roommates

[shrewd ivy]

what about friends? social life?

[wicked pendant]

honestly lived in seattle this summer and didnt have any issues relating to homeless people haha

[wheat seal]

Boston more expensive than Seattle

[foggy perch]

boston == seattle

[dire yarrow]

Social life? What social life?

You're not allowed to have social life

just sit inside and watch twitch all day and

[wicked pendant]

id prefer seattle over nyc and bay area bc its a little cheaper and the public transit is pretty good

[fresh lagoon]

The big tech cities are also full of young ppl tho it's definitely easier

[dire yarrow]

[somber hamlet]

[shrewd ivy]

if im full remote i might just go home with my parents lol

[wheat seal]

Full remote is king though

[wicked pendant]

meh i like living in cities

[wheat seal]

I’d probably pick Austin Texas

But in Seattle now

[wicked pendant]

omg im in the south rn i couldnt do austin </3

too hot

[wheat seal]

Ik but cheap rent and no state income tax. And decent tech scene

[wheat seal]

And less angry homeless in Austin

Idk y homeless in seattle are so angry all the time

I’ve been in downtown in other cities and it’s nothing like this

[wicked pendant]

rlly? i dont think i ever had issues w homeless bc we just ignored tf out of eachother LOL

i was in nicer areas tho

[slim mortar]

ayo where the frick is cuti matudi

[dire yarrow]

were you homeless in nicer areas?

[wheat seal]

It’s just random shit. Wasn’t making eye contact with one homeless but then he started yelling at me and wanted to lunge at me or something. This was in downtown Seattle where I was walking

Crossing intersection

Daylight too

Like 9am

So much other shit I’ve seen too

[vital meteor]

Yea I've stopped going out dt in vancouver due to homeless

[wheat seal]

I mean homeless in Baltimore or New York aren’t bad at all

Seattle is just a different beast

[grave moon]

Bro whatchu mean? Thats the real entertainment

[wheat seal]

Seattle/Vancouver

[old smelt]

Damn is it really that bad? Toronto is pretty chill except in some specific areas

[grave moon]

Bro yonge and Dundas is fucked

[pallid quarry]

I think west coast is way worse than east coast with homeless

[wheat seal]

Yea it’s bad. In downtown I passed by a women doing magic signs while staring passerbys down

[grave moon]

Especially near the entertainment district lol

[pallid quarry]

Seattle/SF are really bad too

[lapis cove]

lol who cares

[wheat seal]

And then I saw a homeless person pick up a USED CIGARETTE!

[lapis cove]

are u worried about being cursed

[wheat seal]

And place it in his mouth

[lapis cove]

how does this affect you

[wheat seal]

No I’m just saying I was cursed out before and almost lunged at

So small stuff like that is disturbing as hell

[dire yarrow]

so what

poor guy just wanted to smoke for a bit

let him smoke

[pallid quarry]

Yeah in SF homeless at bus stops can get violent its scary

and BART stations too

[wheat seal]

I’m just saying Seattle things can be pretty violent

With homeless population

[dire yarrow]

[vital meteor]

Free bus trip to yukon

[wheat seal]

It’s good to be aware of things like that cuz some might not know

Downtown Seattle is pretty bad

Oh yea I saw a glass bottle fight as well

Right when I got out of work

I see so much shit downtown

[dire yarrow]

can you report all this?

[wheat seal]

I’m only out for a sec

[lapis cove]

austin crime rate is a bit better than seattle but not significantly

[dire yarrow]

[vital meteor]

There was that story of a guy with baseball bat whacking a female amazon employee I think they are moving offices after that happened

[night magnet]

whats reporting it gonna do lol

[dire yarrow]

report to police

idk

[prime palm]

Anyone here take Palantir OA

[pallid quarry]

police dont do shit

[night magnet]

just one of many people who are homeless = hard to ID + police prob don't care

[pallid quarry]

even in SF people report thefts/break ins/assaults and police don't care

[wicked pendant]

ya tbh i just didnt really go downtown alone and i avoided 3rd ave when i could, slu queen anne and belltown were all pretty chill

[wheat seal]

Yea they don’t care it’s pretty sad

[lapis cove]

yea SFPD particularly sucks lol

[dire yarrow]

[night magnet]

isnt there that rule in SF that u can steal stuff <$1k or something

[dire yarrow]

glad I didn't move to bay

[pallid quarry]

yup lots of stores closed cause this

[night magnet]

bruh

[dire yarrow]

Why do they even have such shitty rules

[night magnet]

how in the world did that get passed

[wheat seal]

Wait things be

[vital meteor]

Do you have to be homeless ?

[wheat seal]

Bs

[night magnet]

like literally who thought that was a good idea

[wheat seal]

Has to be BS right?

That’s real????

[night magnet]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/san-francisco-shoplifters-theft-walgreens-decriminalized-11634678239

[vital meteor]

Pre cool maybe I'll visit the apple store there when I move

[dire yarrow]

they're supporting thief, let's become a thief

[night magnet]

fr

[wheat seal]

Wow that’s wild

[night magnet]

TC: 949/store x 5 stores/day

[wheat seal]

I could see a lot of fights breaking out in store

Cuz of that rule

[night magnet]

TC: 5k/day = 1.8 M

[gilded vortex]

I've also heard that people steal from the stores and then later try to return the items LMAO

[dire yarrow]

tax exempt

[night magnet]

frrr

[pallid quarry]

I also see people sell stolen stuff on sidewalk lol

[night magnet]

💀

[lapis cove]

its just a misdemeanor instead of a felony I believe

still illegal lol

[night magnet]

doing that right outside the store would be goated

[pallid quarry]

but they don't prosecute anyone for it regardless

[lapis cove]

true

[night magnet]

why doesn't everyone just raid SF stores then? morals?

[dire yarrow]

they should start awarding them