#2023_grads
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What were your mistakes?
4 weeks till I find out about returns
Letting things like bad documentation and poorly defined goals act as blockers for me
That sucks tho :/
I should have set more goals for myself rather than expecting my mentor to help me with it
And ask questions
And shit
I have really well defined goals (my host made me an amazing chart with month 1, 2, 3 goals and stretch goals) and a lot of documentation to read! Documentation is really good here, just a lot to learn
Speak up when you realize you're falling behind
Having well defined goals is good and important
Git gud at scoping out goals for yourself
don't drown yourself in documentation, read whats important for your project and just start earlier than later. a lot of interns spend 2-3 weeks just reading docs and doing starter tasks and run out of time at the end
^
Wait that's very true
Good point @old smelt
WHy DONT I GET EMAILS FOR INTERVIEW REQUESTS
ALL I GET ARE AUTOMATED EMAILS FROM MY UNI
12 to 16 weeks is not a long time, you gotta plan em out well
I have two projects 💀
Sooner you get the ball rolling the better
Hope I can finish my first one fast so I can move on to main one 😵🌊🌊
Hey yall, I feel like coderQuad's list is actuall ass. I'm talking stinky butt cheeks
Where can I find a better list
what is the website to access premium leetcode problems. I am forgetting the name
How low are your expectations for this year? Tbh I'm not optimistic for myself
But I feel like u can do good
Me too
look at the pull requests
But it'll be hard
pro tips
23 grads are gonna have a hard time recruiting
no one is merging pull requests
https://github.com/yhiumy/New-Grad-2023 here is github if you need
This gets updated more often, coderquad is clogged with unfulfilled pull requests
meant just looking at the opened ones
Bro this sucks tbh
good find
How's the careers chat
Yeah but on the bright side we will get stocks at a lower price 😆
I left until I can start hearing back at companies and get interviews
Just gotta find a job first lmao
Which company @gilded dust
I’m at google rn
But apparently, there is full headcount for every intern to get a return offer 😄
No idea how resume screening works for goog
Google takes early career really seriously 🤌🎉
I hope it doesnt cut wayyyyyt too deeply into outside hire new grad 😂
No, they are giving them out like usual! headcount not affected by recession lmao
ayy cool
Tbh I feel like there's so many applicants out there for jobs that have infinitely better experiences and knowledge than me.
I honestly wouldn't be fazed if I couldn't get a single interview out of 15 companies I've applied to, since I'm aiming very high.
Is anyone else’s experience with code signal that the first two are trivial, the 4th one is ok, and then the 3rd one is 
Yeah, google is 🫶. everyone at google is so smart, respectful, and supportive as well.
As long as u can complete 4th
You can get an okay score
@fossil haven yeah! Definitely like google way more 😄 I feel like it’s on a different tier
But just my opinion 😄
Like the 3rd question on the code signal I took was so much harder than the other 3 that I thought I was getting trolled
got it lintcode lol
Q3 is just dense af
no portal update, wbu
So if you get the other 3 what score are you in for
getting pretty worried now, will be 4 days soon
I got nothing either day 6 time
are u guys canada?
Idk like 775+? Maybe 800s? But time penalty is real
maybe canada is backed up or something
ok something must be wrong with the canadian offices
Imo mentors should help their interns define and reach their goals. They voluntarily signed up to be a mentor 🤷♂️ I don’t think you should put all the blame on yourself.
But those ppls were for us
Tbh, I got pretty low expectations for this year. My plan is to take the first offer I get that will allow me to not starve and afford rent. But I’ll keep interviewing and renege if I get a significantly better offer. In the meantime the study plan is to grind leetcode, grind until I get an 820 CodeSignal, and cold email everyone I can. Think the key will be just focusing on what I can control ya know
Or Canada intern
I definitely did way better than the one I submitted for Capital one which was 720
I'm from Amazon lmao
yeah i saw the americans getting offers
My mentor was weird since he felt detached from the whole thing
@teal jackal smh they are probably using this mentorship as a part of promo packet
Thank you, I think you got this too for sure. You got Amazon so you can for sure replicate the same for another company
Yeah I just had bad luck at Amazon
gooddd
You're right strawberry
im going to die of a heart attack if they delay it any longer
where did you see that out of curiosity?
If I don’t get an OA soon I’m gonna challenge Jeff to a boxing match
not OP but i saw it on reddit
a lot of people were posting that they got offers for USA locations
i think all on reddit were intern offers
im US, did the final two weeks ago and just got the offer yesterday
LinkedIn, right? That's what someone else said
think theyre just behind or something
Oh you know anyone who was rejected?
Clear cut rejects come quickly at Amazon
they also have to place you and sometimes that can take some time
i meant location
Wow that's true
I’m just hoping if I get it Amazon Toronto isn’t full
I will not say if you're more likely to get an offer or reject though, since I don't want to give you guys optimism and end in a reject

Imagine a site where you can see reviews of amazon teams
But the clear cut reject wave is probably past you
pls keep me at vancouver or i will throw hands
blind
@errant karma blind doesn’t show team ratings tho right? Just overall company rating
yeah you are right
You can probably talk to someone who can see Amazon blind access
Pretty much every org and product has been talked about there probably
Yeah I heard Amazon has some chill orgs with good wlb
U can. Long shot u get it at L4
But also, most teams are wfh anyways so as long as ur manager is cool with it, no one cares
recruiters be like REMOTE POSITIONS OPEN 
does cap 1 allow for negotiation
i also already accepted microsoft 👨🦯
actually got it for remote nyc 
i interviewed with cap1 just to see if im worthy of a new grad offer
i hav imposter syndrome with this msft return offer
I don’t have impostor syndrome, I’m actually the imposter 
sus
For your mental health, turn it down so the headcount is higher and we get a better chance.
nah tbh i had impsoter syndrome with amazon too for summer 2022
its like i felt like amazon was a fluke, since it was my only offer
why do I need to create a workday account for every company
ive yet to receive evidence, one way or another, that i am fine and don't need to worry about imposter syndrome
Ngl there have been times where I just straight up didn’t apply somewhere because the application was on workday
and I couldn’t be asked
not to mention the 783 completely different "new grad" job app portals that have literally no difference from one another
looking at adobe with this one
and their parser is mid
You should be able to reuse workday applications I don’t understand
Business idea 💡💡
workday's application system is just lazily implemented
thats all
they literally could push this update tomorrow
true
i couldnt, but someone smarter than me could
im probably gonna be on bare minimum social interaction mode next fall, too stressed about economy and jobs to wanna touch grass
i guess this is how non-cs majors feel every year
:/
if you like ur school friends I'd advise against this. it's ur last year to enjoy college
covid and co-op barely allowed me to enjoy college 
Only green I wanna touch is money
relatable
tbh im not close with most of my friends anyways
did anyone who did bloomberg phone get a design question?

man fuck this shit
what is this?
bro tf is this from that's garbage lol
holy
tell them you want to solve problem of no bitches for uggos
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tell them you'll make an innovative dating app based on blind that reveals TC
yooo thats a genius idea

oh they're apparently a philanthropy fund that actually makes some more sense
true, i feel like its not a happy thing to grow up too quickly
but im spoiled by amazon's pay expectation
a significant downgrade would just be really hard for me to swallow
even if amazon was a fluke
did u intern there or smth?
yeah
but yea unfortunately market is tough and you might have to grind harder to get a high paying job-- that intern exp will help tho
this might be a very entitled opinion but zon's pay isn't that much
relative to it's workload
im gonna get a lot of hate for this LOL
did u finish amazon too?
wlb is ehhh, but pure comp wise they're the same as rest of FAANG which is to say p darn good
heyy
yeah i just did an internship
got return
meta?
dont make me change my acronym I don't wanna
coderquad pull requests got a page two 💀
me not knowing how to resolve blockers without bothering people to help(i tried self service and it didnt work for me),
mentor barely gave me goals for my project
skip manager barely knew me and vetoed my hire for new grad
If I either had better leadership, or if I had the wisdom I have now, I feel like I could do better.
oof yea big thing I learned is that reaching out to people a good/necessary thing a lot of the time
vetoed?
ah i see
i trust that my direct manager vouched for me, but skip wasnt sold based on my code output
yeah my skip manager was pretty nice, he set up social events for us like a baseball game, etc. so we could bond
rip
i barely knew my skip
anyways, yeah i have the vibe that amazon employees are expected to put 120% into their job
lol I literally only met my skip once at the final project demo
tbh my plan for a social life was to buy a used miata after i graduate and make friends through autocross
i have good individual friends, but it doesnt add up to a group
at least u have a wifey/kids lol
tbh i think im just a natural pessimist
i always see the worst in my personal situations
like i am lucid enough to understand my weaknesses but not smart enough to resolve them
just need the right mentorship imo
my mentor and manager drilled it into me to always escalate when blocked
its only been 6 days since ive started applying
but i have the inkling that my applications arent strong enough relative to those who can regularly getting interviews
im in the same boat and i have amazon and ibm lol
there are quite a few guys in here with like 5 internships at decently sized companies with crazy lc skills, ridiculous to compete with
i just cant for the life of me get an interview from a unicorn type companmy
couldnt last season
and i feel like itll be tough for me to this year
maybe in significant part due to recession
and job slowdown
this year especially is super tough
this year is rough
stripe, snap, twitch, meta, coinbase, robinhood, bolt, ramp, twitter, asana, plaid, sf, slack and so many more
all confirmed to not do new grad this year or are very likely to not do ng hiring
I might swallow reality and accept that I might get paid less than I did at amazon
tbh idk my problems either
I just know the area I'm failing in
slack is doing ng
they had apps out a while ago
not really, thats for internal SF employees only
no they had an external app
dont ask me why its out in the open
I applied and got a reject like a month or two later lol
salesforce workday just has no idea what theyre doing
damn this sucks
the slack app for internal employees is out in the open
yeah same
like there are misc apps in the public where I I doubt they are hiring many (if any) people
if u assume they're not cap, they're probably just not hiring many people
they made the salesforce intern-only app for slack open to the public for some reason
it was only for ex slack/SF interns
Also prob Splunk
no way splunk too? oh man
They also have a public new grad app for former interns
we are in for a tough year
to make it worse, many companies that do have apps open are hiring less in general/have many orgs that have hiring freezes active
microsoft is a great example
plaid and stripe are not doing it?
good day to be a quant bro
someone ik asked a recruiter
stripe said no
plaid someone else mentioned that they arent doing ng
or even google - the fact that their app was open for 4 days for the first "wave" lmfao
yea, another good example
Nuro also won't be doing new grad, all headcount is filled by return interns
this happened last year too tho
oh did it? hmm
google does have some sort of hiring freeze right now, so it's def not helping
yea G is def not normal
i heard return interns wont know/have an offer in hand until much later this year
wont be surprised if companies like doordash, airbnb, dropbox, pinterest etc either reduce hiring for NG or dont take external NGs completely
its so scuffed
expected uber to be in that boat too but guess not
yea same with many more too probably, brex, gusto, lyft etc etc
more time to prep i guess 😂
😭
is roblox virtual onsite = final round?
Yeah new grad hiring is fucked right now, i really needed that return offer ffs
nah just sayin, like its so much tough this year
vs last year
could carry on to next year or the year after as well maybe
recession ripp
Honestly terrifying shit, this is the worst year the markets seen


@pulsar mural if i process a bunch of offers will u change ur name to yahkub simp
yahkuna
cisco meraki's hiring but u destroyed one particular dude's chances LMFAOO
killed me
yahkub simp is back on the menu now that
is here
Yes
We will get cheaper stocks
yakhub trading
idk what ur talking about 
he said the interviewer had good feedback
If we can even get them
ok friday
But tbh even on a 90k salary I'll make enough to buy a shit ton of stocks on my own
Will be worth a lot by 2027
Yeah. 2021 grads had easy hiring but a lot of their tc was paper money
@normal narwhal sorry I’m a McDonald’s fry cook not SWE 
My weakness is that I got reprimanded for eating nuggs on my shift

@raw wing
Oh my god
I just got a rejection for a dell internship application i did in february
just now
😭 💀
it was for a 2022 summer internship bruh
I feel so doomed
The economy is so bad rn
Graduating during a recession, a pandemic, and a war
Builds character
Also we get to live with the honor knowing that our immediate job prospects were involuntarily sacrificed for the "greater good", even if we'll never get any recognition for it
2020 also had it p rough. rn there's still some hiring activity so it can get a lot worse 🙃
time to make a website i guess
like rn the tech job market is bad, but overall US job market is OK, we haven't hit a full on recession yet, companies are just afraid we will

just got hit with a fat bloomberg rejection
being an international student in the current market , graduating next year . i wake up with anxiety , sleep in anxiety .
also didn't get a return offer , despite working my a$$ off. 
due to hiring freeze and layoffs
how far did ya make it
sometimes i even worked on weekends since the workload was a lot and i didn't want to look like i was struggling
phone, thought i did well but its okay, rejections are obviously gonna happen
at least u got further than me lol
I applied and there’s no update on my application at Bloomberg 
Same
😻
Does anyone have any advice on getting comfortable with settling for less
I am trying to grow okay with the reality that I'll get paid less than I did at Amazon
Less than I did even as an intern
suck it up and apply as sde2
SHEEEEEEEEEEESH
you can get to sde2 really quickly, and that's where the real money starts anyway
just gotta focus on today. what has helped me with rejection is having a goal im working towards. If your goal is to get back to big tech then start working on that if your goal is just sde 2 then work towards that
in 20 years you're not gonna look back and think man my first job i made less than an internship i did during college, i regret that. That's not even gonna be a thought in your mind. There's still so much time in your career to grow
comparison is the thief of joy so really gotta just forget about it and move on
legend
TC isn't gonna make you happier. A guy making 50k a year who has his family and friends sorted and enjoys a good work life balance and personal development is gonna be much happier than a dude with 300k tc who lives as a cog in a machine
Make a big difference in the immediate few years, but will matter less when I'm 30
going to NYC
Is udillas still a thing
so what's the consensus on places hiring readily? Amazon and ???
wish me luck boys
why else tryna stream their final interview??
crush it legend
maybe search in #2023_grad_process !process offer

that's pretty much it then lmao
see which places have already given offers
If I get past palantir resume screening I'm not confident I'll survive every wave of t he process
Why has Amazon not sent me my Oa 😭
well i got phone of palantir and final for cap 1 and i can't even apply to amazon anymore, so if those 3 are the options i'd give myself a W
I applied aug 15
is palantir only in Denver?
check your spam folder
oh aug 15 bruh that's nothing, only 2 weeks lol
how long after interview did u hear back
yes
its also not even september yet there's still a while left in recruiting season
Got there and closed the app. All I could think of was "to help world governments constantly track their citizens"
And i felt like that would be no bueno
no sys design, two technicals and two behaviorals
It's for your own protection 😜
one of the behaviorals is supposed to also be creative problem solving but apparently that doesnt happen sometimes
yea, theres an hour 15 minute break tho
so 1.5 hour technicals, break, 1 hour behaviorals
I guess we'll see what happens later in the cycle. Looks like everything is frozen as a mf right now.
what is up with cap1s bar being so low before powerday 😂
how did i get it with a 725 codesignal
its always been like that
Do u care about the ethical dilemma of palantir or nah
theyre not a tech company
nah i got rejected with that exact codesignal literally
i have palantir karat this friday, anyone got any tips or what i should expect?
they took my old codesignal from when i applied for the internship
what dilemma i love drone strikes
Graph questions
I think when I took it for intern I got all graphs or at least two
yea, its supposed to be the first 30 min behavioral, second 30 min is "values & creative problem solving" where u discuss an open ended problem
anyone think major freezes will be over by jan or will it get worse
but they just asked me behaviorals for the whole time and like halfway in i was like umm wheres my creative problem and the interviewer was like idk i wasnt told about that
idk any examples
I feel like a lot of companies will reach their headcount sooner if anything since way more people are worried and are now applying earlier as well
nobody is worried except u clowns
in here
💀💀
new grads are the first to get cut
what headcount?
🥶 jk
🥶
Hell, the government is in full denial mode rn over the idea of a recession, and it's already this bad.
If the government eventually has to admit it, imagine how bad it'll be by then.
TBF it is just weird rn
Should I start applying for internships and go for grad school lmao
thats cuz we a lot of markers arent what they wld normally be in a recession
Wages are still rising at historically high rates
real wages are down though
i think so
True but the absolute number is weird for recession
500k new jobs added in July
Half the signals say recession and the other half say massively hot booming economy
Make no sense
True, but JPow sees good jobs reports as fuel for his rate hikes.
Yup
We know its recession when that number drastic go down
and hopefully it takes inflation with it
Inb4 we end up in a high inflation low job recession

Fml
sounds like the 1970s
just hope that economy rebounds right after we all get our stock grants priced
we were born to the 1970s of cs
hey, at least home prices would be low af
We can go back to the glory days of cheap homes but 13% mortgage rates
lots of roblox finals in the chat
Tell that to the old MFs who have all their wealth in their home
theyll never let it happen
they don't really have a choice if the fed keeps going the way it is
last year roblox tracked 25 finals with 10 offers
rn 15 finals with 0 offers yet
curious what the rate will be like
how long does it take you roblox finalists to get final after oa
i didnt do OA but I presume its batched since i think someone said they got it literally hours after
interesting
i finished the oa this morning so
im not gonna get final im just curious how long it takes to get rejected really
so far 16 !process roblox finals's in the #2023_grad_process chat
no offers
!process roblox oa has 22 results funnily enough
does anyone have obtain amazon 2023 new grad OA after 15th?
Name a more iconic duo than CS job application software and being broken af
Isn't untapped that bullshit website that got re branded multiple times
idk
apparently untapped is pretty sussy
its a legal way for recruiters to confirm your race and gender
i beleive that theory since untapped does absolutely nothing that the application itself doesnt do
I remember it being called canvas a few years back
and jumpstart before that
still too early I think
they just cant give up
I had my final on monday and know that it was one of the earliest ones, because recruiter reached out to me i didnt do oa
and they say two weeks to get back
Anyone heard from palantir after their karat
I am officially starting job application tomorrow I feel ready enough
ayy
CodeSignal on Saturday then I am good to go
The times are hard I can't afford to play around
truth bro
now i remember
wait really, I kinda remember
Better to suffer now when there are many opportunities than later
ya nw
maybe they did
but no one processed
anyway afaik it's largely not a thing for employment so no reason worrying about it
BASED
you must have been goated at the deer STD game
Damn I got 840 and yet didn't get roblox onsite
hopium
but that might because I never applied
nah i completely bombed tho OA lmao
im gonna apply to roblox soon
i only built 2 and 1 cars 😭
conk did u get roblok?
submitted an 841
interview
nono i got the L
ah

yeah, but i hear ppl who built 4 and 5 cars
lmao i feel mildly insulted that we are talking about building toy cars
do they actually make u fuckn play roblox? lmao
absolutely wildin
yeah
i told my friend working at roblox, my conspiracy theory
yes bro acc cracked the code lmaoo
it's getting free testing labor out of desperate (college) kids
I fuckn refuse, but maybe it's a culture fit thing
made some based cars
bro ill build a toy car irl for $250k salary
thanks popo for giving me hope
LOL
I'd rather build a toy car irl
lol true
I always see this meme -- is it still part of the test
unfortunately
it was for summer 2022
I kinda want to get the oa just bc I'm curious what it is
its auto
the deer game last year was fun
might as well do it
and want to play the game for free
ok lmao robux time
ngl it's silly as fuck but I literally don't want to tell people I work at roblox and had to play roblox to get the job -- ig I have the luxury of having alternatives it's just wack asf
Doesn’t seem bad to me
it's 100% me being weird and vain LOL
i only applied to my last internship cuz they had a cool logo
That's pokemon, not Roblox
actually kinda weird tho I basically didn't know anyone who played roblox/it wasn't big in my friend group or school
hella people played minecraft, roblox tho? meh
well this the only video game u can work on and not get abused by the studio lol
just mad i had to download roblox
ig it depends on the people, i played lots of roblox with my friends when i was a kid
Also surprised that roblox is older than Minecraft— I always saw younger people get into it
i managed to find my old roblox account when i was doing the oa
this thing is 13 years old
question
Why does roblox pay so much anyways?
cuz they make a lot of money from kids with their parents cc
is it a good idea to apply to general swe positions that are not explicitly stated to be newgrad positions?
i heard from ppl that the 2-3+ yoe is just a wishlist
cant hurt u
Lots of kids play minecraft and fortnite, why don't Epic games and Microsoft pay that much?
U can try but at least big companies seem to apply it seriously
they have other ppl make their games and they create their own currency lol.
I’ve had luck applying to “swe” non new grad roles without experience requirements or like 0-3+ type deals
Because they don’t seem to be growing too much comparatively
because roblox makes BANNNNKKKKK
🏦
can i dm you for further?
Even after roblox stock got crushed they’re still worth $20B and I don’t know how LOL
how does roblox make bank? ads?
Sure but I prob have v limited useful advice, only heard back from a handful of places
they have roughly as many daily active users as league i think
It’s all because potential to grow
Mommy and daddy’s CC apparently
kk
ahh micro transactions
Most game studios seem to be bad pay bad wlb bad culture idk why but it permeates most of the industry
cuz lots of ppl are very passionate about working on games
and therefore companies exploit that
cause games is a diff type of a beast of software 
tru
yea and also the profit and development model of games lends itself to bad wlb
Except Roblox for some weird-ass reason
also game devs have no leverage b/c even if they quit there are tons of ppl lined up to take their jobs
ya idk why people get into game dev
I like games but I like money and being able to play games more than making em
Lots of people want to make the next Among Us
oh that’s true af and makes me sad
society exploits passion 
Unless ur like mr beast ig
My dad's colleague worked on the back end infra for Minecraft realms when they were first making it a thing
My dad was like "oh yeah I have a cool colleague, he made a game thing"
And then I LinkedIn stalked the colleague
wait so if your dad's colleague made a game thing.
didn't your dad also make game thing?
i got it with 740 lmao
Nah diff industry
COz then they're colleagues.
Guy industry hopped
how did u do on the other stuff
i think i did pretty well in the fox infection thing? and I built 2 robots for each race track
ah yes, deer STDs
ye
anyone attempt the stubhub oa yet
holy
Because Epic Games is in Cary NC
i have been defeated
also because people want to be in gaming industry
Is a boomer employer surrounded by other boomer employers
Dont have to pay jack to get talent in RTP
Almost as expensive as ATL here and 90 is high for NG
RTP has the right idea, a decent suburban home is still 400k there
i did true brute force for the last q so yeah
a bitter defeat :P
was 290 in the Raleigh city limts like 18 months go
suburban homes also cheap near Chicago if u wanna live in the Midwest
Raleigh is the place to move to after you've racked bank somewhere else if you don't mind humid
at least it used to be
expensive now
compared to what it used to be
tfw I want to retire in HCOL California
yay economy
oh yea it's possible just unpleasant
unpleasant as in u need to save a lot more money
homes cost like >1M, u move almost anywhere else and u cash out >500k which covers like 10 years of expenses
oh yea fs assuming economy is good, previous trends hold, yada yada
Whatttt
My gf is trying to join 
Let’s hope economy get better and more hc
spacex closed their app?
do you skip Roblox OA if u have referral?
i rly want microsoft but they just had some layoffs so they aren't looking too good either
@smoky lodge unrelated but i like your pfp
Thank you.
Ok yeah I’m giving up on 300k starting tc
weren’t u at 350 yesterday
Turns out making 300k isn’t easy
what a scam tbh
I feel like I could get into these places if I had like a year to prepare and spent half my free time studying
Leetcode is definitely not enough
it's ok it's also the hardest one I've ever done, I missed parts and still got an interview (at least the c++ one)
tbh don't remember it was a while ago
ight
being homeless n having no money is more fun
u should try it

Have you guys done the old mission oa
teach us pls
im 100k below that, need help asap
100k is the CS poverty line and 200k is the ok line
What the fuck is 70-80k then
||this is a joke btw so don’t get triggered||
Poverty
Brb applying to the 45k role in Florida, there's no hope for me outside of that anyways 
I like how you have to specify making 200k being ok is a joke
Bro cs people are so toxic that I don’t want to be mistaken/misunderstood
Like have you ever used blind
so true bruh, we be struggling out here. barely making rent
yeah lol
lmfao slumm arent you like mad active on there too
like for posting shit
Reached out to Verkada recruiter about my online application and she expedited it to be reviewed. Asked for my unofficial transcript

I'm pretty famous lol
one of my posts is like top 10 all time
1k+ likes and 1k+ comments, thats the hint
Damn we got a celebrity among us
my company tag will make it obvious
Me it is easy
200k is balling
is 780 codesignal considered good?
tech
200k is pogchamp
no reason to live alone in a studio
Hi has anyone here gone through the Duolingo APM / APM Intern process before? Would love to chat
you know median CA salary is ~79k right? 
and those people live here just like everybody else
Lmao how is 200k poverty
mf just read too much Blind
ngl I thought that guy is joking now I'm concerned lol

its funny because I know for a fact he makes less than 200k, its always the poor ppl that say stuff like that
I was fine with 120k salary in Los Angeles and even had money to contribute to savings
I’m sure you’ll be fine w 200k
ever seen a guy with no job give career advice
hey what's up
Anyone here who unironically thinks 200k anywhere in the US is not a lot of money is a complete bozo and on dipshit-watch
200k we won’t be ballin but we’ll be comfortable. We will eat well 🍽
jus intern
rip
where
better not be 50% pre-ipo stock
“it’s a start up, 100% of the comp is stock, but it’s super promising bro, gonna ipo in 2070”
who tf said 200k is poverty bruh
wait it's unreasonably expensive but ur still vibing, unless u want to solo pay for a huge house meant for a family
“I have a gf but she doesn’t go to this school, you wouldn’t know her”
dawg get a car and live outside the city for a while and you'll be fine
there's no way $200k/year is under the poverty line
lol
im gonna buy a house the second im able to
afford the down payment
i get paid in our cryptocoin. 210k worth of poocoin33
100k is the poverty line, 200k is ok money, 300k is kinda alright money
the trolling is just cringy lol
You can only troll if you actually make 200k, it’s just cringe otherwise
mfs be saying 300k is aight and fucking up amazon OA
is that how much the cap1 offer is?
No lol
does anyone actually know the ng salary for this year 😂
If cap1 pays more than 160k a mod can ban me
It varies but the minimum is tc for your first year depending on area is 130k
What is Rockset pay?
no cap 130k is tight in hcol
SF capital one 142k+
I know this for certain
Those are their main 3 campuses but they also have SF, NYC, and a bunch of others
Interesting, nice nice
u must be better at finding deals than me
142k in SF might be a little tight if you're living alone, but i think it's doable
i could be wildly overestimating the COL over there tho so 🤷
that was also last year
This year there’s a good chance it’s higher for SF
cap williamsburg and greenpoint are just as much of a shitshow
Yeah basically if you stay outside of the big city you'll be fine really
I love how like half of online developer discourse is just complaining about cost of living
even tho we make insane money 😂
when do you see a mechanical engineer complaining about COL all the time
greenpoint is still wild to me, used to be an absolute shithole in the 90s
same with wburg
It's gonna take me like 10 years to make more than my dad
unless i get palantir offer then i'll be a lot closer 😂
tbh most ppl i know including myself don’t rly give a fuck lol
too busy complaining about low wages or inability to get a job, which is about to be this chat when the economy shits itself 
all i care about is landing a nice team
We’re just greedy af and don’t want to pay for shit
we weren't at first
my parents worked 2 jobs each in the first 5-6 years of my life so we could survive
Just rob your dad
tru
ong
anyone knows if BOFA 2023 technology analyst program is only for bachelors?
BOFA DEEZ NUTS IN YO MOUF
Capital one’s strategy is just to hire a million people since no one stays there for more than 2-3 years
yah my parents came to america and then popped out a second baby (me) so it was an L
lol if u dont make 300k ur a loser
I’m also like dead serious
yeah i was gonna say sounds like amazon lol
Obviously
escape the matrix bro
anyway buy my affiliate link Developustler university $50/month
Hell 300k is honestly kinda pennies
TOP G
I'm top g that's why
350k is when you’re above average
salesforce 🤨🤨
Ok on a somewhat more serious note
I think getting a job at an HFT is significantly more impressive than getting a FAANG job
i had to come up with shortest path in O(log(1)) time complexity
by e10 hiring managers nuts
Not Netflix. They hired 50 total last year
ya no shit lol
Albertsons referral pls
their interview is 3x harder
Idk if this is a hot take but having made it decently far into both processes it seems like, massively harder actually
faang interview so much easier than like hrt
I can see that
Good with me
come up with O(1) sorting algo
Like I feel like with a bit more leetcoding and some luck I could break into FAANG, with HFTs I literally feel like I need at least a year of dedicated prep to stand any sort of chance
nah same amount of lc
the problem with hft
they ask shit from across multiple topics
faang is basically just lc
Yep
hft is like
That’s kinda what I was saying
Sounds easy
3 months enough
For HFTs I gotta review probability and a shit ton of stuff and at like a high level
ones i interviewed with, were looking for OS concepts / deep dive implementations of things like dictionaries in python
lc standard med/hards
You don’t need to know probability
At all
They don’t ask math
For dev roles
Maybe u got fucked by rng mine didn’t
i got smth about quantum dice probability
I don’t remember which one it was but distinctly remember clicking question 2 on an OA at one of these places and instantly getting slapped by like a million summations symbols in an equation with a question that clearly required decently advanced stat knowledge
Didn’t see anything like this across all the major firms this year
do you skip Roblox OA if u have referral
anyone know how spacex final onsites are?
Dunno what to expect/ prepare for whiteboard interviews
Y’all think I would lose points for doing an OOP interview in golang? Or do you think they’ll think I’m extra degen
If you can pull it off then y not
might be harder for interviewer to understand
unless its a company that uses golang in their stack
Datadog would love ya
bruh these whiteboard sys design interviews gonna screw me tmr
Mayb idk
doubt it this year atleast
Who me?
I wouldn’t be able to do the basic stuff without contrived solutions 😂
Whoever said they lc in golang. By bud at datadog only works in go haha
Man I'm looking at these F500 companies give a range on the listing of 50-100 and im like
"yeah, i'd probably take the lower end anyways"
Oh well that’s where I learned go :)
do you do lc in go
Nah I tried but Python just makes it too easy
Yup
traitor
Sorry mane I love having native non contrived solutions
Who’s ur bud?
Mine?
Yea
Akhil B
Nahhhhh
Ahh shame
I hope I can get at least an internship there this winter looks like a fun place
Did you get a referral?
I did for swe 1 but new grad wasn't out yet lol. I got auto rejected for that but I've reapplied for new grad
Ok i'm fucking salty
Oh okay fasho
Ddog is a fun place, if you get it you’ll have a great time
I’m confused
Should have just lied and followed everything on the company values page
Lmfao
What does this mean
Imagine doing sets using maps 💀
Long implementing queues and stacks fun too huh
Got that copy paste for the struct and it’s methods on hand huh?
Good luck tryna do balance parentheses and you tell the interviewer “give me a second gotta implement a few methods for my set struct”
wait fr? jeez when did u intern there?
This summer
let's goo i was a winter intern
You coming back?
depends on the return offer numbers tbh. i get numbers in 1.5 weeks. when do the summer ppl get return offer details?
The numbers are like low end 205k to 230k upper end
Same for us
ya i heard 230 from a few other interns too
i hope 230 is the standard return for us
130-135 base, 35-40k stock, 40-50 sign on, and 5k relo is what i've heard
The stock is gonna appreciate the company product is really good
It’s depressed rn but when it recovers it’s gonna be insane
the amazon wait has gotten so bad that i had a dream about the portal
lowkey a nightmare
You basically get 300k first year
adds up to 230k max band 175k recurring lol
Wym “that’s it”
yea lol
yo wheres @azure zephyr
did you get offer
i been touching grass all day
and i come back to some wild shit happening ffs
no lmao
What company?
hopefully 🙏 is
Lemme know what ur numbers are
I heard the offer is exploding so I’m tryna front load my interviews
ya will do, right back at u
what's deadline like?
I gotchu
whats up
I heard it’s 1 month after u open
that's sick
I think they are talking about datadog
For which?
ddog intern deadline
Idk about datadog but I raw dog a lot
dm ur team as well @green bronze
did you get portal update
wat
he was summer
Nah I’m gone now
this is crazy bro 4 doggy interns in chat at the same time
yeah loool
You guys really call it doggy huh
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