#2023_grads
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God hates me
$15 per app. Pretty generous imo
lol i think he got fired from one internship
an app takes like 2-3 mins
so 100 apps and you're making $1500
omg no I don't have that much money
Graduated HS right when COVID hit, graduating college right when hiring slows down
Lmao use simplify chrome extension
It can’t be one this is work of many gods
It pretty much fills everything in a second
still work
Many evil gods
Damn I wonder what you’re doing with your OA’s lmao
@main condor
Like supposedly it’s good to be in a recession when you’re a student (low housing prices), and it’s bad to be in a recession when you start job hunting (for obvious reasons)
And of course I just happened to be a student during a bubble and then starting the job search during a recession
Literal worst case scenario
Where are those low housing prices
For what reason, I was fired from a spring one due to some absences/tardiness (was prioritizing interviews for summer internships) 
Based ^
oh damn you've been fired from an internship?
It’s coming
Will it come to Vancouver
afaik he showed up everyday.. maybe he wasnt getting his work done fast enough?
he did say his boss really hated him
X doubt
Let me cope
If I cursed during a proctored gca does it matter LOL
I raged because my code wasn’t running 🤡
What is a gca
codesignal standardized test
I used the bathroom and got approved ur fine 
maybe that's why you got approved 

Will Oracle reject application if I have more than 12 months of full time experience?
Their New Grad positions says no more than 12 months of experience in the job desc 😦
I vaped during gca, got approved
If I don’t get 350k TC I’m going skydive without a parachute

Min wage evaluator be like
"Mood"
Book the flight now
If I don’t get total comp at 350k life is literally meaningless
@normal narwhal hey, sorry this is late, just saw your question about GS. As with most companies, your experience is gonna highly vary depending on your team and org. For me personally, I was in the Global Markets Division and worked in Client Reporting which is a pretty high impact vertical but the problem with that is I would regularly get off work at 9/10 pm especially since I often had to interface with teams in Bangalore so I had to accommodate for their time zone as well. I learned a decent amount but the tech stack was really old, and most of the tools were proprietary and so not transferable skills (Slang, SecDB). Overall was a good experience just for the resume boost but if I could avoid and just work at a tech company I would. Engineers at GS and banks in general are like 2nd class citizens


if i dont get $120k TC im gonna do that with you

Not easy, but doable
😔 ✊
have a volley of cold emails being sent on tuesday sigh
let's see if it goes anywhere
Even if you don't find a $200K job, you can always earn more by job hopping after the first year
what if u want to see a big number to make u feel like ur a winner?
Yep
I don’t really like the idea of targeting a certain TC. It’s a bit weird
Lowkey there seems to be way more openings for mid level SWEs than entire level
I’ve seen 200k thrown around here a lot and it’s so random, where did that come from
Yea this is basically always the case
let us embrace the copium 
just like a ballpark essentially
like sure 180 / 190 is fine
Nice round number, is ballpark what FAANG pays in HCOL
its just an idea of what i want
I mean honestly in reality I’d be fine with life 120k+ depending on location but it’s the mindset that matters
Oh also are you in HCOL? 200k is borderline impossible basically anywhere else.
350k or death
ideally i want to be 'comfortable in nyc' so whatever that entails
Lol yeah that make sense but then I feel like saying you are going for faang makes more sense
well they’re closing the door on this cohort 
I want to be able to max out my 401k and ira each year and then have a bit leftover for comfort and what not
Depends on what you consider to be a comfortable lifestyle
With a place like NYC or any large city it’s highly variable
Do y'all think it's worth to email startups I wanna work at that don't have new grad/entry level positions
Or is it just a waste of time?
You should do it
It might be a waste of time
Which is why I’m recommending you do it instead of me
Ok where tf is all the new grad stuff
I’ve sent out ~40 applications
But at this point in the intern cycle that number would be like 100+
Yea you never know what will happen
nice
Let's go
real question, what do u even do with so much money
like i feel like for the first year id go crazy buying everything i want and then after that i’d get bored and put everything in savings
get both of my parents to retire early
that'd prob be the first thing
it's never a bad idea to have more capital bc you might not know what to do with it initially but you will later on
maybe you run into an emergencty
maybe you want to splurge on a vacation in the middle of the year
aww that’s really nice of u
my parents are already retired and well off i guess hmm so idk what i’d do with the extra money, maybe donate to some charities
could always plan for emergencies
or the future
might need a surgery one day
buy a house
idk
lots of things you can do
one very cliche thing i want to do once i start new grad is tip 100% every time i go out
i used to be a server and know how exhausting it is
would be nice to make a few peoples day a week
Save money and live like a pauper. And pay nutty HCOL rent in the bay/nyc
lol that 2
I’m trying hard to make a bunch of money, but honesty it wouldn’t change my quality of life at all, I’d live basically exactly the same way— might be less guilty about not having housemates
Oh one splurge is I want to go to Japan with a friend to celebrate getting a job
Think that’s about it tho
It goes fast tbh
In canada that's around 130k after tax and after rent + eating out a big chunk is gone
yeah i’m in vancouver
rent here is insane
im thinking i’ll try to save half of my income per month
Yea my TC is around that and I cant exactly go out and buy a porshe
i also want to buy a newish car
oh
well i was thinking of buying a toyota corolla, about 26k
with monthly payments and all that
all of my savings are in mutual funds
i haven’t taken the time to learn how to invest
so i just followed my banks advice and put it all in mutual funds
lost $700 so far
I want a civic but car market is awful and I’m not about to drop >30k on a freaking civic
Was planning on getting a car but I'll wait
Seems better to wait when you have no idea where/when you will move
ya now the plan is to move to Chicago or nyc and not need a car
Anyone got any updates on Google and Microsoft applications?
Yeah I got offers
Just kidding, literally nothing
yeah true, but the thing is i kinda need it to drive across the border since my fiancé lives there
too bad no buses go across other than greyhound which is far from me
Hmm Okay. Should we like connect with any recruiter on LinkedIn or can we do something about it other than waiting?
he’s been coming across to pick me up but i feel so guilty
ya on a swe salary it’s perfectly reasonable to get a modest new car
Most of my SWE friends blew their sign on bonus on a downpayment for a Tesla lmao

A sr engineer on my team told us not to do that
Yea obviously not financially wise but I’m not gonna tell others how to live their lives lol
Tho because of timing mfer actually profited on selling his Tesla so apparently I’m just wrong
me if I can get a cit offer
“most” bro what kinda SWE friends are you hanging around 
West coast peeps be wildin
amazon sign on 50k this year
personally id just save up most of that money, and hopefully have enough that i could support my family off interest
gonna buy a bmw cuz im a dumbass 
meanwhile in nyc i blew my sign on bonus on rent, security deposit and brokers fee lmao
pain
🧢
i hope ur place is hella cozy
it’s 450 sqft but cozy enough 
Ghost town for me rn too
Nah I've seen numbers. 23 grads get 50k in Seattle
TC is around 190k
They finally realized Seattle isn't that cheap after all.
Also seems inflation might've played role.
I'm curious to see other companies offers this year
Amazon's university hiring is total rng
I'm planning on blowing my bonus, if I get one, on a miata. I already have a car, but I want a hobby car
that’s gotta be cap i got 2022 offer last year and it was not even close to that
bonus should be closer to $20k no?
levels for seattle is super variable huh
iirc my offer was closer to $165k but before they upped the offer due to inflation
50k is for return interns. For others it's 40k
Yea something like that
Seattle, Austin, Denver, Atlanta, Arizona, Wisconsin, Detroit, Socal, Virginia, Boston, Minneapolis: 2023 SDE return intern to full time: 129,000 base, 40,100 / 33,100 year 1 and 2 bonus, 111,531 stocks on 5/15/40/40 vesting schedule (174.6k TC)
Socal and Wisconsin are in the same pay bracket? Lol
Yeah for bay area it's 200k, for NYC it's 192k. They are the only locations with different salaries
oh, interesting. I didn't realise there was a distinction between socal and bay area. Thanks
Socal is los Angeles and nearby areas
Dunno I saw 140k base posting somewhere for new grad/return. Maybe it's cap.
it's because industry hires (non new grad) can be SDE I
new grads all get the same offer, with +10k bonus for return intern
10k less sign-on yeah
people got higher offers on the amazon discord server
Seattle, Austin, Denver, Atlanta, Arizona, Wisconsin, Detroit, Socal, Virginia, Boston, Minneapolis: 2023 SDE return intern to full time: 129,000 base, 50,100 / 33,100 year 1 and 2 bonus, 111,531 stocks on 5/15/40/40 vesting schedule (184.6k TC)
Bay Area 2023 SDE return intern to full time: 148,400 base + 56,100/38,100 sign on bonus + 128,166 stocks 5/15/40/40 vesting schedule (210.9k TC)
New York City Area 2023 SDE return intern to full time: 141,900 base + 54,100/36,400 bonus + 122,590 stocks 5/15/40/40 vesting schedule (202.1k TC)
this is copy paste from amazon discord
Its all the same but first year bonus is +10k for return intern
ohh arent the offers posted before also return intern
this makes me anxious of audible return offer
is adobe closed?
does this count if ur in langley and want to work in vancouver
probably not but the relo money would be nice
fuck lmao
google maps says amazon vancouver office is 39 km from me
maybe they’ll round up
@cedar nebula gl today
don’t exert too hard man maybe just do a couple Easies to warm up
gl !!
$2740
ya could be worse for sure
gonna try to get out to jersey city next year and take over my moms lease when she moves out
2 bed for $2800 only 25 mins from work
yessir
yep
might stay here tho we’ll see
depends on how the stock performs….
sorta jk i just need to find a good roommate. heard too many nightmare stories recently
Be fast 
need to stop refreshing amazon portal
its not even 9 am yet
oh okay tysm
i feel better now that i have a time
@dense blaze @slate bobcat hello my children

it asks if you’ll worship elon
SpaceX recruiter phone call just asks about your interest/experience and they funnel you into one of their 5 teams
and then at the very end, you both pray to our lord and savior Elon
Its weird cuz I applied to a team directly
cuz i have a person i know that referred me lol
so its not... not the new grad one
oh then you're on your own lol
do they tell u what the 5 teams are? i have mine tomorrow
yeah the team that i applied directly to is Direct to Cell
no clue which one it falls under lmao
likely either satelites or starlink
yea
has anyone interviewed with yahoo before?
Amazons pretty flexible with their scheduling. Changed my interview date literally a day before.
Just to be clear, they changed it without me asking for it.
what day did u change it to
Friday
manifesting i get a full time offer, don't wanna be unemployed next year 
i need emails from anyone
they can even be rejections i just want to feel something
Closure
bb interview on 19th
does attending a company's session at a career fair positively impact your app?

possibly
especially if they gave a referral link
yeah well one of the days for my career fair is also the day I have classes from 10 am to 4:30 pm
you could also email them and tell them you applied
Poor financial planners but big money makers lol
so many other interns this past summer either went even or lost money
takeout 2x a day and going out 4-5x a week will do that
my roommate spent so much money
Label where exactly? If applying for both the roles you can make separate resumes.
I have had SDE and DE roles, I just combined both in 1 resume lol
anyone do bloomberg final? what can i expect for hiring manager interview
are you able to check your codesignal score for SIG?
anybody take the seven eight capital OA?
Is IMC OA automated?
No, just the nine ten lower OA
anyone know why my codesignal score went up 5 points randomly? i just checked again and it was higher. not complaining
There is no score
It is just the amount of test cases you pass
yeah but some of them are hidden right?
can we check if we passed those?
anyone do an OA for optiver yet?
nah but stock ain’t looking great in this recession
down a little below vesting price
codesignal is scored by what percentile of test takers you did better on for each question, so it means a lot of people got the same question after you and did worse
Wait apps are open for that?
Apps just launched last week, and their email said their goal is to start sending out OAs within next two to three weeks
lmao it doesn't even make sense to get a car in a lot of the big tech cities
Jay Powell: "I will fight inflation at ALL costs"
Inflation: not a cent lower
Jobs: lost because nobody can afford to expand anymore
yeah because the government prints $1T every month
O noes! People are hiring! That's a terrible sign for the economy!
Honestly I'm just salty that I'm gonna get cucked by the recession
Im proud to have sacrificed my career prospects for the future of this country
I deserve a service discount for serving the country
Jk
apple canada open?
hello yall im a bit late to the game this year
is there a repo of all new grad openings so far??
ohhh i had no idea about that part of it
If you're starting to apply now I feel like you're not that late
ah thanks 4 th support fellas
is Gap new grad the rotational thing?
Depends on what you want to work in. JP puts you in FinTech and P&G puts you in... ???
In a week
Manufacturing product i think? I'm not sure tho
I see! That makes sense
Does referral really matter for Amazon New grad?
anyone do seven eight capital OA?
dang i was hype for a sec
do they let us work remotely from can?
Does referral really matter for Amazon New grad?
👀
Why are you interested in Duolingo?
Don't think so
im interested in a job lmao
dont give af where it is
Never said I was?
Also, how long does it take to get an OA after application?
I just posted it so I'm letting ppl know lol
but u applied
ya i did
Literally rng
give ur asnwer so i can copy paste
i wrote 1 sentence
smth like: I love the app
or smth
sadge
idc tbh
I just want a job
same 😔
"I believe in the product"
Money
Also I speak two languages so I believe in the product
Duolingo asking for a second email and asking if you use the app seems odd
Make up some bs about being surrounded by people speaking different languages
Be like “yeah there were some Spanish people in my neighborhood so I see extraordinary value in cross lingual communication blah blah blah”
meh too much work i'll just bs it 🤣
When's amazon updating portal
@chilly burrow i may be dumb but how do i see full list of jobs on cscareer?
u cant lol
it's pretty dum

thats only recent
only shows da mos recent
👀
just add me to repo 
u back toschool this sem?
ya
once im bak 2 skool i'll hav free time
also once i get a job
did snap get back to u about the return offer?
nah they'll only reach out by oct or smth
Remember lads 350k starting TC or death, there is no in between
TC or gtfo
yeah, 350k is the poverty line nowadays
🥲
damn that blows, sorry to hear 😦
damn, that long
so many companies delay the decisions for interns this year
Plus they're prob gonna hav layoffs v soon
holy shit this recession sucks
never considered that i won't have job after graduation when i was grinding for a t5 school 😭
It’s already done, if it didn’t update then it’s a reject

i applied on the 25th, does this still apply lol? 💀
of august...?
how many rounds does Bloomberg have?
phone -> onsite -> hm
is hm also technical? (sorry I have no exp lol)
On-site and HM are on the same day right?
could be. ive heard some people just have a behavioral interview, culture fit, or sys design
i dont think so but not 100% sure
is there sys design in the onsite?
nah just lc
Yeah I was told that if u don’t do well on ur 2 technicals they don’t do the hm during the virtual on-site, but also not sure
Just relax theres nothing you can do about it
theres also alot more companies out there
This is true
It’s a joke lol
damn ur hyped
3 min before my interview i was shitting myself
about to pass out from nerves
4 who
Interesting my sr engineer said hes interviewing someone in 2 minutes
Hes giving lfu cache
hi guys, could someone pls explain me the difference between a mutex and a lock?
One is a mutex and the other one is a lock
thanks!
yep
amazon
1x30?
oh lol
Does Amazon’s Intern cool down apply for new grad? Idk if I have a cool down lol
If u just interned you can’t apply for NG for 6 months
I didn’t intern I got rejected after the final
my bloomberg phone interviewer is 30min late
U should contact the recruiter especially since phone is only an hour lol
already did
yo what the fuck i just started my interview and my interviewer gave me lfu cache
nani
Probably going to get it rescheduled
I’m still pissed at bb
Is he wearing a belle delphine ahego face shirt
If so that might me my sr engineer
ya and i can see his clairo body pillow in the background too
uwu

How are you texting during the interview?
Yea its zon only personal maid positions are available
janitors MUST be able to do trapping rain water
does anyone knows which company takes referrals seriously
Albertsons
Bro this ain’t the place to troll kek, come back to full timers
are there any particular LC questions that yall have seen in multiple interviews
i've gotten palindrome/anagram questions multiple times
U got palindrome multiples times?
Wow that’s some nice rng
anyone do the scale ai OA? have any tips?
yeah the last two years for internship questions, haven't gotten anything like that for new grad tho
Ohhh nvm I see
How hard is it to get a position at Duolingo
Iirc they do their onsite using different languages
Are you fluent in spanish and japanese
Idk what these languages are does Leetcode support them?
Can I learn to code in them
Yea it's a premium feature
What’s better for interviews Python or Japanese
Japanese is more readable i'd say
Sorry only klingon and yiddish
lol
wtf gib job first
I heard it’s pretty rigorous, good tc lots of applicants, not many spots
would love to work for them tbh but would think they'd be somewhere besides Pittsburgh
still willing to relocate but js lol
anyone done tech phone for forward?
what does bust mean? like jumping out of an airplane without a parachute?
does this mean i can write without proctoring?
do it you wont
bust as in bust a nut
very nice
I recently gave mathworks oa and I got a manager phone interview but my Friend got phone interview, does anyone have any idea what is the difference between the two?
How long do new grad postings usually stay up?
at least for intern i did oa -> phone -> hm phone. so manager phone was the last step before offer
phone was technical and manager phone was behavioral
what's the blackrock 2023 position yall are applying to?
do they have a general swe one or naw
they have a analyst program and u could choose swe in the application
man it wld be nice to get a high paying job in chicago and stay in the lovely state of illinois
Is the order fixed?
but i cannot be assed to do peak6 OA and headlands OA
Like they could do behavioral first and then other rounds
peak6 problems are hard and headlands is in C++ 💀
hireview is fucking terrible
hirevue*
That was the worst experience of my life LMAO i got a 2d array problem and it was presented to me as a singular line
Are you talking about Blackrock OA?
no
blackrock OA is dumb
is old mission capital OA bullshit or doable
they should just do hackerrank
Agreed, parsing was terrible
Blackrock 🤡
I spent so much time on the first question, then I see the second one hella hard
I've heard it's hard af
Does anyone know if it’s possible to transition in Amazon?
Like if I did Seattle but I want SF instead
You can try, but it'll most likely be ignored
What if I already am deep in process
no not for university hire
all these companies doing codesignal kms
Sig oa is easy though
is Valkyrie OA automated?
is it? i just got the email and its a codesignal oa so...
Also anyone knows how does it take for scale ai to reach out after hackerank?
why tf does literally every company send an OA now
It is a custom codesignal
1-2 weeks i think
i swear u used to be able to just get a straight interview before
places that do OAs before resume screen is ridiculous imo
also hackerrank >>>>>>> codesignal
Neeva gives auto projects lol
I like codesignal
Imagine getting all test cases right and then being rejected lmao
Cause I can just reuse lol
it just takes me a few mins to read and fully understand a question so codesignal is my enemy
tbh I think OA after resume screen is fair for both company and applicant. don't waste a engineer's time on the phone if u can't pass the minimum standard on an OA. OA before screen makes me a bit salty bc it saves them time from even having to read ur resume which I find cheeky
At least OAs are good practice for other interviews/oa
Good thing is that time per question only starts when you start typing
ya this is true which is why I still do all of em
Skill issue
if amazon sends me an offer i will tattoo the portal on my ass
oh hey i actually didn't know that!
@cedar nebula how did interview go
limited experience i think you can still get noticed but a resume that isn't ATS friendly can screw you
any amazon updates today?
my friend got amazon portal update for internship today
breathe you'll be fine. friend took like a week to get an offer iirc
How about LPs?
was it the linux one
thats interesting tbh given the recession
but i guess amazon hires a lot of people anyways
when did they have their interview?
i got an email from amazon and my heart skipped a beat, then i realized it was just an email telling me my amazon order had shipped 

i got the best rng and got an easy one
i think mine was a lc medium
2x60
u got this king
u too
Yo
anyone know the full palantir process?
I just got an email for some karat thing, is that phone or oa
Not that I know of
This is the info they gave me
Probably is
Anyway my process has been karat -> recruiter -> ???
Recruiter call took a while to schedule lol
is the karat tough?
lc med/hard?
if i get a graph question im just gonna end the call bc i haven't done graphs at ALL in python
They ask time complexity question followed by a series of questions starting from very easy to like easy medium to hard medium/easy hard
do you have to compile/run the code
For me its recruiter call -> Karat Phone Interview -> 2 Technical Rounds 1 hr with PLTR engineers -> 1 call with Hiring Manager
oh i didn't have a recruiter call
I got a graph/matrix question part 2 was just a BFS
i went straight to karat after applying, interesting
You can retake it within 24 if you aren't happy with your Karat performance 🙂
My recruiter call is after karat for some reason
what? is karat not a live interview with someone?
what is copium ?
It is you still get a redo
Yeah but they allow you to retake the karat
weird
over a week ago i think
whats palantir salary
and look at the best score
600k tc
Good
Not that lol
Palantir Intern Return Offer: 240 TC FY
thats more than citadel
That’s cap
I care lol that’s why I’m getting a job
TC sluts SMH
palantir?
Its 240K lol for interns
yeah PLTR
its decently high
capitalism baby the pay is the point
im just shooting for 100k+ tbh
anyone got this for bloomberg? is there a chance to get a response or is it automatic?
About to take the PLTR Karat 
isn't this just the thing after applying?
got this too
applied a few days ago
lmao yeah me too i meant if i get an offer for 100k place im gonna take it no questions tbh
pltr took a few days to get back to me iirc
i got this when i applied
i'd accept a 50k offer lol
know ur worth, if it’s 100k then ur good, but know ur options
the offer i have now is 80k so
ight I suppose u know ur options LOL but still don’t undersell urself
The attitude and elitism surrounding TC really needs to go away in our industry. It's so shit and it's not healthy for the future. People competing so hard to try and get the highest TC as if that's some kind of testament to their character and themselves as a person. Pretty sad for me
For those that care. Just saw an update from Snap that there is currently 0 headcount for summer return interns. But then one recruiter said they're still "in the works" IDEK if they are hiring externally rn
fr people will not even take into account wlb or company culture or what type of product the company makes
as long as they can get 200k TC
Snap Winterns who got offers verbally are expecting to hear back about the TC and stuff this early september
idk if this will be pushed back
So much more to life than TC
Elitism bad and TC != personal value, but I 100% support people helping their homies extract money from companies thru nego and competing offers and otherwise making life changing amounts of money
of course
gotta know your worth
Bro I don’t give af about elitism and competition I want high TC because I want MONEY
For me it just becomes bad when someone's life mission is to chase TC at all costs, that just aint it
some of u guys are money obsessed
Literally false
ur life is not going to become magically good when u have a shit ton of money
yeah i feel you!! i guess for me if i can get a job that pays 100k+ thats already more than what the majority of my family makes tbh. i just wanna accept a job offer before xmas so i can focus more on spending my last semester with my best friends
I’ve deferred my existential thought until after I get a job thanks :(
TC determines a ton of my life factors, especially considering student loans and rent. Elitism exists regardless of TC tbh. Most of us just want high TC, and as it is most things, high costs correlate with high quality. Which means a high TC is a strong indicator of skill, talent and performance. Unfortunately some take that as an excuse to be elitist, but that doesn't invalidate those facts.
💯 spending time with friends is big value
Nah it is definitely an industry issue. I don't know of many other industries that have quite the same problem as CS
Ok but would you rather have a shitty life with high TC or a shitty life with low TC
TBH Idk if some subscribe to this too. But all I want is just to have a TC high enough to fuel whatever lifestyle I want which isn't that absurd. Like paying tickets to a music festival or going on a trip abroad without really worrying about money is all I ask.
High TC != High skill
So this just sounds like a nonsense assertion to make elitism to be industry specific. It's human specific
you can make your life better with even just 70k TC
that's why i said "i don't know many", there are some.
go outside and touch grass for one
What’s the point of skill if you don’t make money
Nah it’s 350k starting TC or bust
To do something you enjoy at a high level and make an impact on a product you are passionate and care about.
Read the words man. Correlation and strong indicators are actual mathematical metrics, not just jargon or opinion
money won’t necessarily make you happy but it will help
microsoft is def my dream company bc of their wlb
money rents happiness
I will take all the money that isn’t making you guys happy
making 250k TC but dedicating my entire life to work feels...
if imma be a code monkey for a while i might as well make as much as i can
like i have a lot of problems and money would fix most of them
The correlation is a fact. The outcome of deciding TC is a result of that correlation. It's accuracy varies, much like any real world distribution. But it's the best model we have
(i do think its naive to think having more money won't have a factor on your quality of life tho)
why do u want so much money so bad, like what are u even planning on buying that u cant with a 100k TC salary
Less copium please
I find it harder to find people that are happy/satisfied than people that are monetarily successful. why is it hard to be happy smh
Nothing a lot of broad market ETFs and real estate so that I can make even more money
I hope you know that guy is a known troll. His TC is 0 rn
i have a new “application submitted” in my amazon portal does it mean anything? old app was “Under review”
has a location too
i just want a job where i can live comfortably, not paycheck to paycheck
No
False but it is not 350k so it might as well be 0
id take a job that pays 60k TC over 150k TC if they sponsor me to live in america
100k TC will just pay for rent in vancouver lol
Happiness is complex. Folks tend to oversimplify it. Money is a big factor in it since money affords you a lot of things that contribute to happiness. But not everything, which a lot interpret as "money doesn't buy happiness". The accurate statement is money doesn't alone buy happiness, happiness needs a mixture of things
1 bedroom apartments are around $3k, surely you make double or even triple that amount per month with a 100k TC
Bro why is it always the lowest TC people that have the highest expectations. I swear to god half the interns here that didn’t even get a return want 350k+ NG lmaoo
You could have all the money in the world, a 500k TC badge of honor on your chest, living in a big city and everything. But then what? What about the things that are more important in life, like family, friends. You're spending 60 hours a week in the office and ignoring the fact that life is so much bigger than work. Work is just a part of it. When you're alone in your late 20s after job hopping everywhere to chase ultra high TC, how is that badge of "honor" gonna help you then? It doesn't mean shit. It doesn't matter how high your TC is, what matters is that you do what you enjoy with people you enjoy being with, working on a product you care about and a company that values you as a person, and not just as an asset to generate code. I would rather work at a company that values me and with good people for 80k than be a cog in a machine of lifeless corpses for 500k TC. That should be the attitude people take on, but the reality is that in our industry TC is still seen as a sign of superiority, and it's just sad because it makes those who choose to settle for lower TCs feel put down by the entire culture surrounding software engineering. It's something that needs to change over time and hopefully with the next generation WLB and company culture becomes a more important factor than just salary
High tc and good wlb isnt mutually exclusive though
this is a pretty black/white take
I agree with your argument, but your premise is weak. I’ve noticed that people like to cope, thinking that if you make a lot of money your work life balance has to be terrible, that’s not true at all. My lowest paying jobs worked me the hardest
@smoky lodge Obviously not, but compared to 350k yes
after taxes maybe 2x? it's ofc comfortable to live on, but not big balling
I'm describing a specific type of person who treats life as just work work work and chase money and bags. Not necessarily trying to imply that they're mutually exclusive
If that person just wants to work and get $$ what's wrong with that tbh
Like I am mostly trolling with the 350k or death thing but I am not trolling about wanting a lot of money
Not sure why anyone has any right to judge anyone
Also this might sound weird, but it’s not even like I want to do anything with the money, it’s literally just seeing big numbers gives me a rush
The oversimplifications to serve ones delusions are just palpable...
Pay follows value in general and value follows skill in general... Outliers to this general rule doesn't make the rule wrong, it just means they're outliers.
What we can all agree on is that there needn't be elitism despite the awareness of superiority. You can stay humble, polite and generally helpful
I THINK AMAZON PORTALS UPDATED
how about ppl who want to grind their first few years of working with high TC so they can get some investments going and then hop to a lower TC with better wlb
What's wrong with it is when these people act like they're superior to everyone else because they have a higher TC. No, it doesn't matter. If you want to work your ass off and make all the money in the world, you can, but acting like you're better than everyone else is just dumb and toxic
The tc circle jerk sucks but the anti circle jerk is so much copium
This is overly simplistic
tbh I have to agree with what slum said, at normal swe pay ranges and some seniority, more money doesn't necessarily imply more work.
Talk this shit when 350k chads retire at 28
It is simplistic, i'm pointing out a specific type of person in our industry that seems to be running rampant over time
There’s nothing wrong with wanting a lot of money. My problem is when people start looking down on others who make less. Comments like yours make this place a bit elitist, I’m sure there are a ton of lurkers that make much less than 142k. And when you block it out like it’s embarrassing…
Past year in the server, I've seen near 0 instance of pay based toxicity. I'm seeing a little salt though right now
Yea the 350k or bust are just people trolling
I dont think anyone is actually being elitist
i agree i just meant somebody working for company that pays a ton but you're on call 24/7
like blind is a toxic shithole, but I've seen very little of it personally IRL. people grind for high TC yes, but I don't see the harm. I haven't seen it to any unreasonable extent
it didnt for me
lol blind is so toxic bc theyre anon. the majority of those ppl don't actually act like that
Your Amazon update quota has been met for the day
oh avoiding on call is perfectly fair, not 100% sure that plays out for sr folk
i have a new app submitted to a location
offer 🎉
Not for me either
lmao fair, i probably refreshed like 300 times today
This is the way. Spend your early years doing hard work cause you can, spend later years reaping your rewards cause you're old and tired and deserve a break. Either age, don't need to compromise happiness. There's happiness in work and relaxation, try to find both
I didn't think anyone here was taking that seriously, lol
What’s wrong with looking down on them though they’re inferior
This is actually pretty common. Until you guys start actual full time work you don’t know how exhausting it can be, especially if you aren’t remote
Does everyone get OA from bloomberg apply by referral or by website?
Congratulations! Also when was your interview?
Thursday
Yeah this is exactly what I mean. I was making 30k last fall, I don’t feel any different now than I did then
fr, its just monday but im already dead
Friday interviewers might get updates on Wednesday btw for amazon
typically friday->monday updates are rejections
fucking hate remote work. easy to get suckered into doing more work/amazon management actually mentioned that people were doing materially more hours wfm and saw it as a problem
offers don't happen that quick
Also, to make it 100000% clear and completely unambiguous, this is trolling.

wait so its good that mine didnt update today right
hehe
Cut down the sarcasm champ 😂
May i not get an update today. Dear goddddd
pure speculation 🤷
My advice for anyone who hasn't scheduled an amazon interview yet
do it on a Monday or a Thursday
True but still I can work on my bed with my pajamas on, way better than having to go to office and sit there at a desk for 8 hours minimum :(.
Monday interviews sometimes can get wednesday updates, and thursday gets monday updates
Mine tooo
implying that they let you pick the day at this point
amazon interviews are an absolute clusterfuck for some reason rn
Are all Amazon subsidiaries just as RNG?
i did my summer 2022 interview in march bruh 💀 all the timeslots were open
i need to stop staring at the portal page because im going insane
like if apply to Twitch or audible is it just as much of a mess
@slim marsh @pallid kernel i feel for y'all, waiting for the portal change is soooooo scary and it's endless
i believe in y'all tho im sure you got the offers
for now go beat a pokemon nuzlocke
Bullshit literally none of you got offers it’s time for crying
this is a cscareers server, what does that mean?
We don’t do that here. Did you miss the letters “c” and “s”
how long after amazong portal change do we get email?
this is the last time I heard from zon
I’m just salty right now cuz I didn’t even get sent an OA
Like no one take this seriously it’s just me malding I promise
Google ❤️❤️
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u ever say no to sex because ur too busy leetcoding
job shit is part of the reason why my last relationship blew up no cap 
Leetcode is my sex
lowkey have before with my bf 😭
for roblox is it straight from codesignal --> final or is there a phone interview in between?
down horrendous
Same have to reject sex all day from all my girlfriends
nothing interesting tbh I was just super stressed about future job/grad school/current undergrad work and was a worse partner than I should have been + other unresolved issues -> relationship ended
I would follow up if you haven't already, unless you ended up accepting the competing offer
The job application process actually trains you to use tinder believe it or not
What does the portal change to if it's an offer?
oh yea I would do so if I was interested in actually interviewing I just find it amusing that I got ghosted (currently zon is a backup so I'm kinda fine not saying anything)
i think its job moved to a different location? from what ive heard
You send out a hundred applications, here back from like 15, and then you’ve got a phone interview
but mines still "under review" so idk
Then if you’re lucky you get 2-3 offers
yea actually it was related to exactly that, I basically stop communicating when I get super stressed
live and learn ig, communication important to make people not hate you
shut up
The prospect of being homeless and failing at life is exciting
u need help

The prospect of being homeless and failing at life is exciting
@smoky lodge
dis keeps me alive
preach
yes
i love seeing homeless ppl so it motivates me to not be honeless 
This is the exact mindset
job hunting is kinda fun when u already have a good offer so u just get to be shopping around
wait the threat of failing at life is what makes me anxious and motivates me to grind-- not super healthy but at least slightly effective
move to SF
You basically brainwash yourself into loving stress and then boom 350k TC
I promise it works
I like the way is either you are homeless or make +100K Year
tbh I kinda hate it, it makes me feel bad about leading on companies while I try for better offers at other places
i feel you so hardcore on this omg. it was esp frustrating for me bc he's business and doesnt know how competitive it gets in tech so he was kinda downplaying the lc grind initially
Guys, is competitive programming worth it ?
*350k
I mean I'm still doing it, but it makes me feel bad. like what I'm doing impacts recruiters/HMs so it's just not a very good feeling
100k is what we call the poverty line
Amazon sucks why would anyone want to work there

yea tru, but personally at least I'm unwilling to renege so I'm actually just stringing em along lol
it says moved to another job
that's what mine is
monehhhh
pretty sure you are
did you submit that app?
okay well why would they submit a new job on your behalf to reject you
Btw guys if you actually get an offer can you decline so that they need to hire more people
dw i am probably going to lol its just leverage
I had final at Amazon and there was no portal info about (like If I never applied)
I did not even have a interview yet but mine still says the same as yours
@azure oar when did u interview
^ that is the offer app
Congrats on the offer
there's amazon portal and university portal
oh wtf
wtff
that happened to me too
was it 1x30 or 2x60?
when did you take an oa? Is it only 1 oa or multiple?
i did OA 1 on 13th and OA 2 on 16th
I did my final last friday
ok i logged onto the other portal, does this mean anything
I get sometimes impressed of my quick apply skills bruh
was it 1x30 or 2x60?
2x60
See, that's what I'm telling, u guys only have application submitted at one place, meanwhile my application at both portal says submitted

you have not completed the application for that one
was it 1 LC and 1 design for you too over both interviews?
Is it okay if my application is submitted on both university and jobs portal?
I had like 3LP and 1LC for each of the 60min
i did 2 x 60 and got 2 LC in one of my rounds fyi
Did anyone get a Hard on the LC?
i got LFU cache 🙃
But after refer, we got mail to complete application on jobs...
does the portal update happen at the same time or should i keep refreshing for the rest of today
Just try to get another time
Does everyone get OA from Bloomberg apply by referral or by website?
That's why im very surprised if I actually got offer because I did it sub opt asf
Wait until Wednesday
what if we arent able to solve the problem the most optimized way? did it happen to anyone?
Completed palantir, karat interview on 18 August, haven't heard back since then, is it auto reject ?
did first interview on 17 August -> solved 2 and didn't even moved to third question.
Scheduled redo on 18 August and solved 3 completely.
Any DS ques to specifically focus on I have my interview next week, 2x60
When did you get dates from amazon with the fixed dates?
I’m a friday people tooo. I haven’t got the update aaaaaa I’ll go touch grass
tis RNG,focus on what you're weak at
ok that makes me feel a lot better, im so nervous im gonna throw up
😂
I put my dates as 6-9th sept, didnt get specific dates, they said I will get that 48hrs bfr
Me too I’m not eating today
RNG?
for 30 min or 60?
60
i also gave dates for same days
Bloomberg gives OAs?
It's random, you could get anything
did you get the specific date yet?
Amazon likes string questions btw
i also did not get mail from them lmao
WWWWWW
thats on computer
Ok i asked around and this is an offer
offer
yeah it'll become moved to another job later tonight
that's at the bottom
lemme see if my portal still has it from summer
yes
offer letter when
i got moved to austin when i did it lol
that sucks
i got offer on 3/15/2022
im not gonna take the offer if they move to another location
i can't move away from my fiance :(
which location are you looking for?
vancouver is much bigger than toronto for amz im pretty sure
are they far away?
yes that's across the country lol
yeah its across the country
that's like Seattle -> NYC
lol
Has anyone here given Bloomberg's video interview? Can you please share your experience? What can I expect during the interview?
did you select vancouver as the location at the end of the application?
fwiw i got the location I put
Just got fucked by hackerrank OA
yeah then you wont get a different location
Sucks man
it’s early enough that top choice is probably doable
no way they’ve filled couv entirely yet
i kept seattle as the location because i thought seattle will have more openings
but i dont want to live in seatttle
lol when i got the offer in march, i had put Seattle, NYC, Bay as my locations and I got austin 💀
on a fully virtual team so i was the only one there besides my manager and no one went to office 😂
oh fuck
so that was fun
do you have any idea how do they choose locations?
business needs
and yeah lmfao
it's just hilarious tho that i got assigned to a fully blanket virtual exception team
and got hybrid austin
😂
me and my team had a laugh about it bc student programs dum
wondering the same
when is your interview?
After 3 weeks. Wbu?
same
someone told me it was an easy problem and the rest is basically screening
questions from your resume
Does Apple ng open yet?
Apple doesn't do new grad
What?! They only give return ng offer?
Yes
Idk about this year but they do have new grad
I got offer and so did several other people
Oh they had new grad last year?
They even have a rotational program
Yeah bro just nobody hears back
I never saw it on the coderquad repo last year
So I just assumed they didn't tbh
The rotation program is for 2022 Dec graduate only?
I mean idk
Check it urself cuz I have job already and I’m working 
For me rotational would’ve started in august
Nah I believe you I just didn't know
Oh nah I mean to wenrenyiyu
I stopped using that GitHub repo in October of last year cuz it got stale
Got it Thanks
And I think I saw it on LinkedIn
And I applied without thinking much of it
Very lucky I guess
does anyone know if bb nego to 200-220 for new grad?
I don't think they open specific ng positions, they just have some ft positions without exp requirements that may hire ugrads
apple weird idk how their system works in much depth nor do I know any ft people there





