2023_grads

[late kestrel]

i dont think i got one from C1

[stoic bone]

Did anyone give IMC 30-min video interview? What kind of questions can I expect?

[crystal delta]

is this 2023 or not https://www.twitch.tv/jobs/en/careers/6269587002/

[lone goblet]

How do I get referrals do I spam people on LinkedIn

[slim mortar]

how long is the wait for amazon oa2?

just gave oa1

[lusty field]

I definitely applied for a new grad position

[azure zephyr]

a palantir recruiter reached out to me and asked if i'm more interested in SWE or forward deployed software engineer, is that a good sign that i'm moving forward in the interview process?

[glossy basin]

Yes

Which stage you in?

After karat?

And when did you get this? Because many people got rejection letter today

[rain patio]

what are the chances i fucked up a 1x30

[trim jacinth]

Isnt the main complexity with this just the swap

[normal palm]

wait wth

[winter loom]

Did something happen?

[azure zephyr]

i got this today and i haven't started any process with them yet (besides applying)

[rain patio]

i think i answered how many test cases i ran incorrect and couldnt remember what bugs i fixed in between, but i was able to optimize and explain my solutions and the questions

[winter loom]

Wdym test cases and bug fixes? Is it not just review of what the oa solution.

I think you should be good

Never knew they asked any of that

[lusty field]

It was legit on LinkedIn

[rain patio]

i was asked how many times i ran test cases and what code changes i did in between

[pallid kernel]

i wonder if amazon employees get free amazon prime

[vital meteor]

No they dont

[late kestrel]

assuming the best bet for bloomberg phone is to do tagged qs?

[quartz needle]

Who remembers how many times they ran test cases?

[rain patio]

idk i told him it was 3 weeks ago i dont know remember

[quartz needle]

True

[vital meteor]

Yea

Ask people who you took classes with

Yea

[modern socket]

is anyone else just extremely stressed out right now? i've done one interview (P&G), gotten one callback at bloomberg, and been rejected at Palantir and Jane Street. i guess it just feels so stressful especially since I'm slated to graduate in december

i literally haven't heard back from amazon yet after 3 weeks and am dying

[wicked pendant]

i had strangers who went to my school reach out on linkedin for refs, just say ur interested in hearing how they got to their position/what working at the company is like bc you also like the company and see if they offer the referral

[modern socket]

i also did almost perfectly on the c1 and gs OAs and am still waiting to actually hear back after 2 weeks

i'm like dying inside rn

[hushed ember]

3 weeks after OA2 ?

[modern socket]

3 weeks after applying

i applied 7/27

no OA yet

[vital meteor]

Yea but they know you more than a guy that graduated 5 years ago lmao

[hushed ember]

Yeah it sucks. I solved both the ques for GS OA. Not sure why they haven't reached back yet.

[late kestrel]

GS wont reach out probably for a while

[rain patio]

I bet they just did a freeze and didnt care to let anyone know

[hushed ember]

I think it might take a while. I applied 1 week after the job got posted which is late june. I got my OA little late like around Early August.

[late kestrel]

theyre notorious for taking months

[hushed ember]

Thats bad. They should be early if they want the talent.

[rain patio]

oh. so like google? didnt know. did OA 2nd week of July

[modern socket]

yeah but i don't really have forever nor do i feel secure waiting until the last minute to get an offer

[hushed ember]

Yeah I get it. I feel the same. Considering the recession pit we are caught up in, just having an offer letter will give me a good sleep. I'm not even picky about the roles or positions at this point.

[normal palm]

Bruh

[normal palm]

Whats on ur resume outta curiosity?

[hushed ember]

your asking my resume content ?

[normal palm]

Yes

[late kestrel]

just ask @inner prawn he got the deets lol

[fluid bloom]

Roblox resume rejects?

I thought the oa was auto

[hushed ember]

did you apply with personal mail ? or school email ?

[normal palm]

What’s databricks oa cutoff?

[fluid bloom]

School. I think it asks for both tho right?

@hushed ember

[modern socket]

does anyone know if procter and gamble is remote optional?

because i can't really move to cincinnati

[humble pebble]

Pretty sure it is just conveniently located next to Exit 8, but I was under the impression they did some remodelling work around the construction as well

Not sure, keep an eye out on the portal

[sharp stream]

Does anyone know what I should expect from capital one codesignal?

Does it matter the position I’ve applied to or is it just random?

[late kestrel]

its gca

just the general codesignal

[sharp stream]

What’s gca?

[sharp stream]

Alright cool

[whole zinc]

how much of a burden is it for someone to give a referral?

also, don't they get a bonus if all goes well?

like, what are the cons of giving one?

[rustic vessel]

Anyone know c1s intern pay this year so I have an idea of new grad?

[fair plinth]

no oa for new grad

[chilly burrow]

No

[normal palm]

I got a codesignal?

Oh wait that was for the intern, i applied to both 😂

[raven ember]

is 843 good enough for hrt

[chilly burrow]

Ye prob

[raven ember]

or is it very resume dependent

[rustic vessel]

Resume prob

[vital meteor]

I would assume it would look bad If you referred alot of people who all get pipped

[chilly burrow]

843 is enough to get to resume screen

Afaik most codesignals are auto or semi-auto

[raven ember]

ok makes sense

[chilly burrow]

And only after scoring the cutoff do they look at your resume

[glossy basin]

Ok nvm. I have a feeling maybe it’s because they have enough candidates in the pipeline for SDE but not the forward deployment one

[late kestrel]

forward deployment is more of a BA/SWE mix no?

[civic summit]

which places are known for needing proctored code signals? i just took a good one but forgot to set it to proctored 🤦‍♂️

[worn wigeon]

Which vmware opening did you guys apply to?

I got a reject in 1 day for the launch program thing

[floral plank]

That one

[vital meteor]

Are you canadian

[floral plank]

Also anyone knows how is SIG or Old Mission OA?

[vital meteor]

They dont sponsor iirc and auto reject

[worn wigeon]

No

Damn

Sad

I am an immigrant

Makes sense

[tardy jetty]

can uber send me phone 🥺

[glossy basin]

This year all 4 I received needs proctor

Including HRT, circle, roblox, square I think

[late kestrel]

idk ab the rest but roblox doesnt

[forest crystal]

hi guys, is there any advice for amazon oa2?

It seems quite different with intern one

[slim mortar]

im gonna give it now

[primal pike]

fuck u

[azure zephyr]

i just got palantir interview wtf

i don't even know how to prepare, it's for the forward deployed position, is that similar to the regular swe role? from an interview stand point

[livid pagoda]

so google application says 1 or less yoe is required for the early career role, I have 2 yoe but that was before my masters, do you think I can apply since I am a grad student but have experience before?

[inner prawn]

Well it’s more to your detriment than anything

Do you want to get an L3 new grad offer? With a masters + 2 YOE?

[white escarp]

🤣 I got rejected for the ng program

[primal pike]

same

oh lol u

[hexed moth]

is bloomberg hiring for next year

or this year

i got resume rejected, but i might have applied to the wrong position lmfao

[calm shale]

Anyones amazon portal still says “application submitted”? It’s been like almost 2 weeks…

[livid pagoda]

yeah, being an international student, we don't get much opportunities and our previous experience of a different country does not usually count.

[mossy niche]

C1 ng offers high this year

[vast gyro]

is the last one bonus or stock

[pallid quarry]

If you haven’t applied to 3 positions already or don’t see any other relevant ones, I’d just apply to both

[inner prawn]

Ah ok got it

Just apply still

More experience is always better

[livid pagoda]

alright, thanks.

[primal pike]

can ceo see my leetcode youtube searches on work laptop

[late kestrel]

im fairly sure that their ng apps arent public yet

[hexed moth]

RIP

[late kestrel]

i was told the app link was specific to me idk

[rare yew]

Should we use our personal or school email addresses when applying to companies? What are the benefits and drawbacks?

[hexed moth]

well i use my school email

[livid pagoda]

for new grad roles, its good to use your school email

[hexed moth]

so people dont know my personal email is [e-mail]

and i dont think it's as professional looking

[late kestrel]

i do personal so when i graduate and lose access to my .edu i dont have to make new accounts if i apply in the future

[late kestrel]

gmail accounts are free 🙂

[hexed moth]

oh I have a personal email that's my first and last name lmao

[late kestrel]

use that then 😏

[livid pagoda]

you wont lose it unless its not active for like 2-3 months

[hexed moth]

but yeah

[late kestrel]

depends on your uni

[fluid bloom]

Anyone done the IMC hirevue?

[hexed moth]

I do my school mainly because im so tired of spam to my personal

and it'll last as long as i log in every 6 months

[late kestrel]

i made a new personal just for things like jobs, banking, CCs, ect

important stuff

[white escarp]

anyone did tripadvisor final ? 👀

[calm shale]

What’s databricks process? OA then final?

[main pawn]

for intern at least it was OA, recruiter phone, 2 60 minute technicals, and then hiring manager

[azure cove]

Did anyone get Amazon OA for SDE 2023 new grad position?

[hexed moth]

yes

takes 3-4 weeks from applying @azure cove

[azure cove]

I haven't received it yet, its been 7 weeks now. They said its still under review when I contacted the Amazon team

@hexed moth

[inner prawn]

for new grad the process was ridiculously long last year

[winter loom]

anyone know if this is common for amazon 1x30s?

[inner prawn]

OA, technical phones, final, take home assignment, and you need Yes's from the entire HC

[inner prawn]

yeah, this is common

they want to make sure you didnt cheat

if you submitted 20 times but you say 2, its a red flag for them

[azure cove]

@hexed moth when did you apply for the Amazon 2023 SDE new grad? How long was it by the time you received your OA?

[calm shale]

Take home after final? Goddamn

[inner prawn]

yep lol. several months long process. they vet hard

[weak latch]

Wow i got resume rejected from Circle so quick wtf

[calm shale]

Alright F then lol

[weak latch]

less than 24 hours lol

[hexed moth]

do they care how many times you ran your tests and stuff?

[inner prawn]

nope, I think its more about if you answer close to the actual amount of times you ran your program

[hexed moth]

like i said it was like 3-4 weeks ago

gotcha

[inner prawn]

1x30 is essentially an offer unless you really, really mess up lol

[hexed moth]

🙏

praying i get a 1x30 lmao

[winter loom]

what if you just dont remember?

its been like 3 weeks fo rme

[inner prawn]

you should have a rough estimate, but its a holistic decision so the most important part is ofc you know how to actually solve the problem along with time complexity

[surreal shuttle]

I wrote OA2, 2 days ago. Nervous af right now

[slate bobcat]

Anyone know what companies ask system design questions to new grads?

[inner prawn]

this list

https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/t4qas2/companies_with_system_design_for_new_grads/

pretty accurate

plus bloomberg (sometimes) lol

[rain patio]

Amazon OOP doesn't count?

[inner prawn]

Nah, OOP is different from system design

OOP is usually modeling some problem with classes and methods and instance variables, system design is about caching, load balancing, proxies, databases, etc

[rustic vessel]

Not much of an improvement to last year sadly

[jaunty basalt]

@frank wedge gap asked you system design? Swear that wasn’t it

[slate bobcat]

GAP fell off

anyone have recommendations on how to practice sys design?

I know theres the sys design github primer

should I just use that?

[jaunty basalt]

I mean most of the stuff on there you should already know

The stuff most people don’t know doesn’t really get asked as part of a design, just trivia

[inner prawn]

I never got past phone

[slate bobcat]

I don't think I know it

[rain patio]

thank God

[jaunty basalt]

Ok then read up on it

[slate bobcat]

I barely know what database to choose

[jaunty basalt]

Picking what you know well is usually acceptable

[slate bobcat]

I always pick PostgreSQL

[river harbor]

Any one did optiver oa? Why are they giving 72 hours for the OA and is it auto to receive OA

[slate bobcat]

yeah its auto

[fervent drift]

doin another mass application

wish me luck boys

[inner prawn]

Because of that 2nd question lol

[fervent drift]

prayin everyone who applies to amazon gets 1x30

[river harbor]

Are they asking to build a website lol

[floral plank]

pray for everyone who applies gets offer

[fervent drift]

can u tell me what else they can ask in that 1x30

life gonna be hard if no offer

[inner prawn]

Some sort of LC super hard tree question, implementation-heavy

[inner prawn]

Unfortunately I wasn’t lucky enough to get one myself, but I heard it was just how many times you ran the code, what optimal solution is, explain your code, time/space complexity, maybe some basic resume behavioral

[fervent drift]

oh gotcha, i do appreciate that too though

been watchin neetcode vids and then doing leetcode

[trim jacinth]

is it worth doing karat redo if you got all 3?

[slim marsh]

I’m still waiting for the final interview schedule after the “hello, due to high volume” email. Been 3 days eek

[fervent drift]

pain

[sour night]

I just took the LC one and it wasn’t too bad

[stuck compass]

I applied to amazon on 7/8. Still haven't gotten any response or OA. Any tips?

[sour night]

Rng and pray

[jaunty basalt]

Palindrome substring for a binary string

If it’s what I think it is then u don’t use dp, it’s two pointers

After a keen observation

[gilded dust]

How long after “Amazon SDE FTE Final Interview Invitation - Coming Soon! Thank you for being patient!” Did it take to get final?

[slate bobcat]

Yo I think I had that one

I couldn’t get it

I did backtracking

[shut crescent]

lie on ur resume

lie until they finally catch you

then when u get the OA cheat on it

and then lie a few more times

then when u get the job just keep lying

[lone goblet]

Is reapplying w a referral a thing lol

Cus if so try that?

[shut crescent]

then just keep repeating until u reach 500k salary

[stuck compass]

I applied with a referral.

[lone goblet]

Ah Idk then

[fervent drift]

can i stack referrals lol?

i have 2 friends who work at amzn

[inner prawn]

So 99th percentile TC

I believe they show you the code, you just have to be able to explain it well

[fervent drift]

that doesnt sound bad at all really

"for loop is for making sure elements are in array"

i hope i get a job bruh

should i settle for local tech company or jus keep grinding lc till i get big tech lol

[inner prawn]

The name does help, I got recruiters hitting me up like crazy after I put it on my LinkedIn

[fervent drift]

where do u work>

gms?

oh hes at bloomberg

[iron lily]

Depends on the companies I think

Is A significantly more selective

[peak ferry]

do you know career progression/raises/bonuses diff at the companies? is company A unwilling or unable to negociate?

40k paycut is gonna translate to about 20k after taxes if ur in a high income tax state (CA/NYC)

lol idk personally I am in a similar situation and I'm not sure what I want to do. 20k pretax diff and I vaguely feel one might be nicer than the other but who knows

yea like it's not peanuts, that's a decent chunk of change lol

for a 40k delta, how bad exactly is company B? like how big do you estimate the quality of life difference is? One potential option that's like +20k I turned down for sure bc it isn't worth it at all in my eyes lol

[inner prawn]

Bloomberg lol, well incoming

No, worked there ft. Well it was contract role. But name brand helped me a lot

[jaunty basalt]

I went local

[fervent drift]

Is the tc good or like enough for the city

Cause I’m tryna have decent tc

[jaunty basalt]

Depends on what you think is good

[calm shale]

500k or bust

[fervent drift]

Bruh

I’m good with like 120-160k for incoming

[fringe pasture]

bro holy fuck u made it

ik how much lc grind u did the past few months

[inner prawn]

lol yeah, all it took was getting lucky once

good to see you dude

we all got booted out of the quant server lol

[fringe pasture]

yea lol

joined server again once app season opened up

need to get quant finance offer first

[night magnet]

How do I get a zon OA 😭 😭

[jaunty snow]

I submitted Amazon OA and I just keep getting survey emails 💀

[peak ferry]

why? lol

I'm surprised they care

interesting

[sour night]

How long did it take for y’all to get rejected by databricks?

[azure zephyr]

bro why does spacex ask for your SAT score lol what college senior remembers what they got

[split plaza]

been five days since applying to Databricks no reject yet

[floral plank]

Has Bloomberg opened new grad positions?

[white escarp]

ye db doesn't have oa for ng

🤣

its either phone or bust

[rain patio]

Did you apply to Databricks with a referral?

[white escarp]

thought u got ahoy return?

really?

LOL

thats fcked

[rain patio]

i don't see any Software Engineer, Early Career in US. i have 1+ years of experiences.

[white escarp]

no i think its industry exp

[rain patio]

i have 3 years of industry exp.

[white escarp]

google doesn't count internship

[white escarp]

bro u can apply to se3

whatchu doing

🤣

[rain patio]

lol ok.

but i am technically a new grad.

[white escarp]

stop smurfing bro

😮

[rain patio]

i went back to school.

[white escarp]

doesn't matter 👀

like some people has industry exp then go for a master

still

[rain patio]

yes. software engineering.

cool. thanks.

[keen zinc]

Got the same thing

Smh

Just finished HRT Algo dev oa and the last question was straight out homicide

[quaint steppe]

Sammmeeee. How long does it usually take for Amazon to get back after OA?

[gilded dust]

Isn’t hrt just a code signal? @keen zinc

[keen zinc]

That’s for SWE, this one was for Algo dev

[dusky crest]

lmao how was it

[keen zinc]

First 2 were alright, 3rd one was outright insanity

[formal fable]

Cryptarithms go brrrr....

[keen zinc]

Gives me ptsd

[dusty halo]

Is applying on amazon.jobs different from student programs? I received a referral and my application went to amazon.jobs.

[shut crescent]

who else is lying on their resumes

[weak latch]

bruh

That's kinda sad lmao

[shut crescent]

u dont lie on ur resume?

[weak latch]

no lmao

[shut crescent]

u never lied in ur life?

yeah got ur ass now huh

that's kinda sad lmao

[azure zephyr]

be careful about lying on your resume, it may come back to bite you in the future (two years ago i said i had a lot of js experience when i barely knew it at the time, had an interview for an internship and they exclusively asked me javascript related questions)

[shut crescent]

well the thing is mostly everyone lies so ur in the market with a bunch of liars

if u cant beat them, join them

[azure zephyr]

can't lie your way through a technical interview

[shut crescent]

yeah thats true good thing i dont have to

i just gotta lie to atleast have a shot at one

[vast gyro]

to what extent are you lying on resume like bullets?

[shut crescent]

just to get passed these shitty parsers the corporate hirers have made

[elder hull]

lied about my skills on linux and the phone interview was like

[buoyant herald]

Fucking cringe

[elder hull]

LINUX💀💀

[shut crescent]

call it what u want i got a job doing it better than being homeless

[trim jacinth]

lmaooooo

cope

[rustic vessel]

This guy is way too salty at something

[shut crescent]

u guys are saying ur resumes are 100% true and nothing is overexaggerated?

[trim jacinth]

yeah, cry about it

[shut crescent]

lmao

[vast gyro]

lmao also got rolled by a linux phone 💀

nvidia

[shut crescent]

if u didnt lie u wouldve probly never got the phone interview to begin with

so who cares

[azure zephyr]

it can definitely be frustrating to break into the first job/internship, but the more experience you gain you won't feel the need to lie on your resume. tbh i'd rather work for a company that would help foster my development than have to lie about the skills i have to get in

[shut crescent]

yeah i dont have to lie anymore but i did to break into my first internship/full time role tho

[buoyant herald]

So from a pragmatic perspective, if your entire goal is to get an offer: interviewers commonly have very well tuned bullshit detectors. They'll checksum your background at least at a cursory level. If they sense you're being disingenuous that's the absolute worst signal you can give off

[azure zephyr]

^^

[shut crescent]

oh ig its only for some people that can pull it off then

[buoyant herald]

If you lie, there's a decent chance they'll ask follow up questions, so you need to lie some more. Soon enough you'll end up building a brick shithouse

That's the way I've heard 8t put

[shut crescent]

have u tried it though

[rustic vessel]

Where has it gotten you

Out of curiosity

[peak ferry]

yes actually

[shut crescent]

i landed my first data engineering internship, part time, and full time

bullshit resume

[buoyant herald]

Suppose you get the offer. Great, now you're an imposter. Not imposter syndrome. Actual imposter

Sus

[shut crescent]

idk i saw alot of people overexaggerating resumes and lying so i did it too

and it worked

[peak ferry]

I mean what are you even lying about? I don't think I've been screened due to soft factors/things that are unverifiable

[shut crescent]

my undergrad research PI even told me to overexaggerate my resume lol

[peak ferry]

you can't really lie about objective things like work experience/education unless you want to get ur offer rescinded lol

[shut crescent]

within bullet points of u working somewhere

[rustic vessel]

I embellish things but never straight up lie. Not like it helps much

[peak ferry]

never had anyone care about the specifics much 🤷

[shut crescent]

idk im just saying its a way cuz someone asked that they never even get an OA

the reason is cuz these hirers use dogshit parsers lol

u have to lie and use keywords to get passed the parsers

or ur not going to even get a chance at an interview

at big tech that is

[rustic vessel]

I mean or you could just do projects with those keywords

Im at big tech

[azure zephyr]

having the keywords in your resume != lying

[rustic vessel]

What’s your point

[buoyant herald]

I saw a video of a Facebook senior engineer talking about why he rejected a guy. He said he had 20 direct reports and spent 90% of his time coding. Mf got insta rejected. Numbers that may look natural to us are clear bullshit to experienced devs

[peak ferry]

bruh that's straight cap, big tech hands out OAs like candy

[peak ferry]

LOL I have 0 exp and that's obviously bullshit

even as a SWE IC with 0 direct reports u aint spending 90% of ur day coding

[shut crescent]

most of the times u gotta think for urself cuz those people online are just talking. why would they tell the truth about how they got in and everything

most of them are scum bags

[trim jacinth]

what a sad view

[buoyant herald]

Speak for yourself

[azure zephyr]

nah fr, my past internships i was only really spending 45% of my day (prob less tbh) coding

[shut crescent]

i think u just hate the truth man

tbh

[trim jacinth]

lol

weak bait

[azure zephyr]

a lot of software engineering is planning/meetings tbh

[peak ferry]

pain

[rustic vessel]

My dude focus on improving yourself rather than just blaming the game

[azure zephyr]

once i was in a two hour sprint planning meeting that went over time by one hour...gotta love it

[shut crescent]

ur acting like people who do this are cheating themselves but they are just giving themselves an opportunity lol

its not like i cheat in technical interview, i passed them

[rain patio]

the key is to know how to pump up your resume as much as possible while maintaining plausible denialability.

[shut crescent]

yeah ofc im not lying about positions that i never worked at

i fluff the key points haha

[peak ferry]

I'm not out here saying everyone (or even most people) is/are 100% truthful all the time, but I am saying you don't need to cap to succeed. my resume is a pile of turd I put together in like an hour and it served me well enough to get a couple of interviews which is all you really need to get a job

[rain patio]

everybody is juicing up their resume like crazy, if you don't do it you lose automatically.

[late kestrel]

dude literally just had a spaz attack. went from talking about normal shit and now suddenly every message he sends is about lying

u ok man?

what happened

[shut crescent]

thats what im saying and everyones bashing on me like they dont do it lol

[rain patio]

for me the bottom line is to never say something that didn't happen happened. otherwise anything goes.

[peak ferry]

I'm not gonna bash on anyone for exaggerating, I will clown on people for straight capping tho

[late kestrel]

literally what happened to u LMFAO

[lapis cove]

is different from hyping up stuff u actually did

[shut crescent]

it works tho @late kestrel

[late kestrel]

i hope for your mental someone hopped on your pc

[shut crescent]

yeah i was joking around for that part but kinda meant it tbh

[late kestrel]

nah i was just laughing at the abrupt sudden obsession with lying on your resume lmao

[shut crescent]

it started when someone said they couldnt get an OA lol

cuz ik just the way to get one

[shut crescent]

triggered a few people

[peak ferry]

I literally don't believe a new grad could fail to receive a single OA if they applied to a decent # of companies unless they fucked something up gravely

[shut crescent]

i think he was talking about amazon OA

[late kestrel]

the amount of horrible resume formats ive seen, i can believe it

[peak ferry]

yea idk about amazon in extreme detail, but I do know they hand out OAs like candy

[shut crescent]

amazon doesnt hand everyone an OA

[rain patio]

to some people, saying you "designed a high-performance scientific computing platform" while in reality you just made a calculator is lying. for some others, it's not lying. it depends.

[nocturne oriole]

False and no evidence

Parsers are used to categorize your resume into a db for filtering by skills etc

[peak ferry]

in my small sample size I don't know any new grads that didn't get a zon OA lol

[nocturne oriole]

Not some AI that throws u in the rubbish bin

[shut crescent]

oh i remember asking some lead at apple and he said they use parsers so i thought that was the case

[peak ferry]

tho the current market is funny idk if zon is less liberal now

[shut crescent]

i doubt they look at every resume tho lol

[nocturne oriole]

It’s not a standard but to be fair there probably is some filtering. Just not something worth gaming

[chilly burrow]

I didn't

[peak ferry]

wait I thought u were intern, no?

[chilly burrow]

I reneged 😔

[nocturne oriole]

Lol dude tons of people dont get amazon OA, it’s not free

[shut crescent]

yeah idk if they look at every resume @nocturne oriole i believe him there has to be parsers

[nocturne oriole]

but i think if ur point is a mid resume still gets hits yes i agree

[peak ferry]

small sample size lol

[trim jacinth]

if you can't elaborate about whats "high performance" when asked about it i'd say it's lying

[nocturne oriole]

Even if there are, the way to game it is simply unknown and not worth dwelling

[chilly burrow]

My resume didnt get oa and I have 3 internships 😭

[nocturne oriole]

Get urself a latex template, avoid fluff, that’s it

[rough ruin]

AWS OA is free

[shut crescent]

but if u didnt say high performance u wont be asked anything

[peak ferry]

wait to be clear did you renege on amazon in specific? lol

[rain patio]

forget about the high-performance part. is it still lying?

[chilly burrow]

I reneged Amazon for summer 2022 internship

[shut crescent]

no its not imo

they literally tell u to do this

[trim jacinth]

i mean sure, if your resume is so dog you can't make OAs in the first place go ahead

you still get shot down the moment the interviewing eng looks into it

[rain patio]

well my calculator is very high-performance. it computes results in one microsecond.

[nocturne oriole]

The most bold hot take advice i have for new grads is put tons of skills. If u wrote 3 lines of ruby hey now u know ruby

[peak ferry]

well dam that's the 1 time I've heard of reneging having a potential impact. cuz I def haven't heard people with internship exp as a ng getting rejected without OA

[shut crescent]

exactly lol

[keen zinc]

And ready to bend over if you really don’t

[shut crescent]

its fluffing ur resume they tell u to do it

its borderline lying

which im fine with tbh cuz everyone does it

[chilly burrow]

Nah I doubt thats it

[keen zinc]

You lying, ok. Assuming everyone lies, well, that’s wrong

[chilly burrow]

I kno another dude who reneged and got it

So prob rng

[nocturne oriole]

I did so many interviews and NOBODY asked me to put my lang proficiency to the test. Nobody asked me cpp templates, kotlin coroutines, js functions,

[chilly burrow]

Again Amazon oa isn't guaranteed

[shut crescent]

yeah not all but i think most do tho dude lol

[peak ferry]

yea ik it's not guaranteed I'm just actually shocked someone half way qualified didn't get the OA tbh

[shut crescent]

u work at amazon?

[trim jacinth]

does amazon even blacklist

[chilly burrow]

I put C# on my resume cause I once made a game in Unity

I don't remember it

[nocturne oriole]

Im NOT advocating lying but in all honesty as a jr swe u dont know shit, everybody knows listing a lang on resume is still noob knowledge

[peak ferry]

not explicitly as policy afaik

[nocturne oriole]

So just list it all

[chilly burrow]

But I could pick it up fairly quickly

[trim jacinth]

ive heard of people reneging and then still getting hit up a year later lol

[chilly burrow]

It's not a lie

[keen zinc]

That’s still alright tbh, you have some exposure to the language

[nocturne oriole]

I had offer and declined

[shut crescent]

u have to lie a little bit bro

[chilly burrow]

I tink dats wat Kirb was gettin at

[chilly burrow]

U don't

[shut crescent]

theres no way with this competition u get in

[keen zinc]

I can get behind that

[peak ferry]

mfw I've been grilled on language details and c++ templates and c++ language details in like 3/5 places I've interviewed at

[chilly burrow]

I got in wit no big name school to a good company

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah to be clear this is the mindset

[shut crescent]

ig if ur a genius and go to a top school ig

[chilly burrow]

I'm not

[shut crescent]

ur an outlier then

[nocturne oriole]

Was this quant btw

[trim jacinth]

bro really calling anyone against him an outlier

[chilly burrow]

It's called putting the effort in my friend

[nocturne oriole]

I didnt do quant. Just all FAANG and places like pin/asana/twilio

[peak ferry]

most people are not geniuses and do not go to top schools and are able to find jobs js

[rain patio]

for those who are really desperate: just do whatever you need to get a job. if you get caught, you suffer from the consequences. we are all adults. don't overcomplicate it.

[chilly burrow]

It's not guaranteed results

[peak ferry]

1/5 was quant 2/5 were not

[buoyant herald]

@shut crescent I recommend watching this starting 12:15
https://youtu.be/PJKYqLP6MRE

[chilly burrow]

But it's better than being dishonest and calling successful ppl outliers

[buoyant herald]

More for behavioral interviews

But still

[chilly burrow]

Instead of tryin to dismiss other ppls success learn from it

Don't just call em unicorns

[fresh lagoon]

I got c++ questions at nvidia nuro, but I do think c++ is a bit of an outlier (and to be fair I have projects and stuff too w/ c++)

[rough ruin]

i don't embelish on my resume and i've gotten to interviews/OAs just fine

[chilly burrow]

Aren't those hardware companies

[fresh lagoon]

Not hardware positions

[chilly burrow]

Fair enuf

[trim jacinth]

at the end of the day there's some rng to it

[peak ferry]

the 2 tech places specifically grilled me on how well I knew the langs on my resume lol (I did OK bc I only put down langs I knew reasonably well)

[trim jacinth]

can't cry too much about it

[shut crescent]

theres def rng

[rain patio]

there are so many things that are unfair. i know people who sell referal services and real coding problems etc..

[shut crescent]

some people get two sum for their amazon interview

[chilly burrow]

I got it for oa

[peak ferry]

there's a LOT of rng, numbers game just apply to lots of places and prepare as much as you can to max % of offer per interview

[shut crescent]

i always get tree questions lol

[chilly burrow]

I got tree for final

[nocturne oriole]

Mfal u needa stop saying ppl need top school or lying to get a good job

[rough ruin]

i had linked list

[nocturne oriole]

It’s not statistically significant, it’s cynical, it puts our profession to a bit of embarrasment

[shut crescent]

okay u dont need to go to a top school or fluff ur resume to get into big tech lol

just keep being 100% honest

[peak ferry]

big tech is almost entirely how good are you at LC grinding lol --well until the recent hiring slowdowns/freezes

[rough ruin]

school def does not matter even in the slightest for 99% of companies

[chilly burrow]

I'm glad u understand now

[shut crescent]

it doesnt matter to me at the end of the day right its ur life

ima continue to lie tho

[sage current]

lol. mans trying to lessen the competition

[dusty basin]

After resume screen, ofc

[nocturne oriole]

Nobody cares bro, u can push P however u want, but dont tell others how to push P

[shut crescent]

yeah i mean best case no one lies and i lie, i get the interview

[sage current]

lo0oool

[rough ruin]

then get pip

[shut crescent]

fuck it right

[dusty basin]

Imagine u still don’t get it lulz

[inner prawn]

lol u are talking to the air. most ppl here would rather die than work at a non-faang

[shut crescent]

worth the try anyways fuck it man

i wouldnt have got it if i hadnt then

[chilly burrow]

https://youtu.be/j5aVECZpcmM

^ur welcom

[trim jacinth]

this vid got 86 views where tf u find this

[rain patio]

well literally 99% of people don't work at faang

[nocturne oriole]

Anyways sorry if i was aggressive but pls keep discussion healthy here

[chilly burrow]

Yt dumas

[nocturne oriole]

A lot of people already live toxic with this grind

[trim jacinth]

damn 😔

[chilly burrow]

Read the url

[peak ferry]

friends got past screen coming from mid tier state uni and no internship exp at G, zon, meta and ik similar examples, which is why I'm not convinced resume screens are THAT brutal (well in good times at least, ex not now)

[shut crescent]

we are all toxic

[inner prawn]

not saying I disagree with you. I couldnt land anything and sucked it up and worked at subpar places and it still worked out in the end

[shut crescent]

its ok

[dusty basin]

I mean, it’s rng. Ik ppl with faang internships get resume rejected

[shut crescent]

@dusty basin tried to get me banned yesterday

[chilly burrow]

I'd like 2 tink I'm not

[dusty basin]

And ppl with dog-tier resumes get in

[shut crescent]

u almost got me

[nocturne oriole]

Ok so we fix lol, there is no reason to be toxic. Cs is half the work of med school etc, half the brains of physics

We have no right to be toxic

[rain patio]

for me faang is all about environment and pay. nothing else attracts me there.

[peak ferry]

maybe amazon hires someone to roll dice idk

[shut crescent]

facts med school is insanely tough

[dusty basin]

Not just Amazon lol

[chilly burrow]

I jus like codeine 😭

*coding

[dusty basin]

Msft and G are huge examples of this

[peak ferry]

zon's interview process seems like one of the most random ones to me ngl

[inner prawn]

if thats the case, then there are tons of other companies that meet those requirements, but unfortunately they dont hire at the same volume as faangs

[peak ferry]

no idea about zon

[shut crescent]

lets try heroine and escape

[rustic vessel]

Zon is random, no oa from them this year

[chilly burrow]

I don't do drugs

[shut crescent]

i wonder how many people smoke in remote jobs

cuz i feel like my colleagues are high asf sometimes

[fresh lagoon]

Yeah it's certainly rng, potentially even yield protection but if you have a solid resume it doesn't matter, just get it reviewed and look at total results

[dense blaze]

The environment at simplisafe is chill af; pay is a little subpar but they give tons of benefits for a non FAANG

I met the company’s CTO today

[shut crescent]

why do people even go to big tech, arent start ups the play lol

or like stay in big tech

[inner prawn]

yep and im sure by subpar you still mean 6 figs lol. but yeah, good example

[trim jacinth]

startup options are paper money

[fresh lagoon]

8 hour days

[inner prawn]

pretty risky rn. havent you seen the layoffs and the paper money

[shut crescent]

yeah but amazon and shit slave u

[peak ferry]

also startups mixed af in terms of comp

[dense blaze]

Lmao yeah it’s still 6 figures but kinda subpar compared to other 6 fig places

[trim jacinth]

even if you IPO there's no guarantee the shares actually maintain value

[peak ferry]

friendo got acquired by m$ and made basically nothing

huge L

[trim jacinth]

robinhood mfers went from 35 to 10 💀

[shut crescent]

i hate robinhood

[dense blaze]

Who?

[fresh lagoon]

It's kinda crazy how much ur comp can change based on stock performance at small companies

[inner prawn]

robinhood is truly an L

[shut crescent]

it really is

dogshit lol

[peak ferry]

even big companies, cough meta

lol

[inner prawn]

their interviews were pin/snap level hard, 200k+ new grad offer, but all went to shit because of the meme stock stuff

[shut crescent]

do people even still talk about robinhood? this is the first time ive heard it for a while now lol

i dont think i came across an application from robinhood either

[fresh lagoon]

Only when they have layoffs

[trim jacinth]

they froze this year

[shut crescent]

yeah they dont look like they are doing so good

i mean pretty much everyone froze

[trim jacinth]

still like a 250k return offer for interns lol

[shut crescent]

recession hitting

[fresh lagoon]

Happy I reneged

[chilly burrow]

Imo Robinhood is a gr8 place to be for new grad

I woud work ther

[shut crescent]

china prob gonna invade taiwan too soon here

2023 is going to be a good year

[inner prawn]

@chilly burrow fr?

I would be shitting bricks every day

[chilly burrow]

It's undervalued imo

[trim jacinth]

2 layoffs in u assume they won't do it for the foreseeable future

[chilly burrow]

It'll b bout by som1

[trim jacinth]

so whoever survived is prob chillin

[buoyant herald]

They're sitting on 6 billion in cold hard cash money guap

[inner prawn]

lol thats a huge leap of faith there

[buoyant herald]

Theyre a public company you can just see it

[chilly burrow]

Mayb

[inner prawn]

not really impressed with their pay with how much instability there is

[hexed moth]

any of you have experience with leetcode company cards

[inner prawn]

if faang is already paying near 200k whats the point

[shut crescent]

havent really been in the job market since i got my full time already, but how have the early grad positions been treating u guys?

is it bad

[chilly burrow]

I'd go wit FAANG ofc

[peak ferry]

200k for recent ng offers in the bay (before freezes)

[chilly burrow]

But if I got nothing else den RH

[inner prawn]

yep

[chilly burrow]

It is

[buoyant herald]

even amazon is 200k bay

[trim jacinth]

hood has full remote policy

[chilly burrow]

Google new grad will only be open for 4 more days

[hexed moth]

ive just been grinding neetcode and doing problems in the same type, just curious if the cards are useful

[trim jacinth]

which is dope

[shut crescent]

damn rip 2023 grads man

market is about to get shittier prob

[inner prawn]

I'd say its worth it, for my amazon final 2 out of 3 questions were from explore card

[fresh lagoon]

Not rh specifically, but I think smaller companies have more responsibility/potentially more interesting work

[buoyant herald]

You get stock compensation at a discount it's actually sick if you can get an offer at a blue-chip company

[trim jacinth]

i just cope by thinking it can't get any worse 🙃

[hazy gull]

it can get a lot worse

[inner prawn]

thats a good point, if you can stomach the risk, I'm sure the learning opps are fantastic

[shut crescent]

i think it is going to get a lot worse haha

like freezes are prob just the start

[rustic vessel]

Companies still upping pay compared to last year

[hazy gull]

i mean ya with inflation they r squeezed to do so

[buoyant herald]

except robinhood bruh inflation made it like a 6% decline

sadge

[shut crescent]

yeah but i also think that china vs taiwan and china controlling chips is going to fuck everything up even more cuz they are going to control tsmc

[buoyant herald]

bruh cloud providers are going to have it rough

[shut crescent]

we're all fucked tbh

whole worlds fucked at that point, china wins

[buoyant herald]

except citadel, they'll profit off turbulent markets lol

cockroach of a company

they survive nukes

[shut crescent]

lmao

[buoyant herald]

debatable. They're having a seriously rough go with their housing market rn

[shut crescent]

theres a worse group than citadel i forget its name

[buoyant herald]

like 70% of household wealth is in their real estate sector

[hexed moth]

blackrock?

[buoyant herald]

I predict a spooky contraction coming

[hazy gull]

Blackrock can not fail

[shut crescent]

i think so theres this specific group

[hexed moth]

??? what no way they're building a number of plants in the united states

[shut crescent]

yeah but tsmc controls everything

its the main provider to all chip needers

[hexed moth]

no i mean

[buoyant herald]

foundries take time to build

[hexed moth]

they're going to be able to fab chips here

[rigid quail]

@pulsar mural WHERE PINK ROLE

[hexed moth]

oh yeah of course, but i mean in the next <10 years i think it'll be done

[buoyant herald]

taiwan is looking like a snack to china rn no cap

spooky

[shut crescent]

yeah its the perfect time

[peak ferry]

I don't predict war with china

[shut crescent]

theres a war and we're in a recession

[peak ferry]

no draft please

[shut crescent]

they can easily just profit an insane amount from taiwan

remember they used to spam china #1

shit actually happened

[trim jacinth]

if they invade the tsmc plants are self destructing

so we all get fucked

[buoyant herald]

I low key want trump back just so an insane mf running the US will scare xi away

[peak ferry]

only after destroying their industrial capacity and people? somehow sounds like a bad idea

[shut crescent]

not a bad idea actually lmao

[shut crescent]

same

hes a funny guy too tbh

[buoyant herald]

Like twitter threatening to turn the stock printer on if elon bought more than 15%

[shut crescent]

i think it was renaissance actually lol

[buoyant herald]

meddalion fund is next level

[shut crescent]

medallion fund

Medallion reaped a 98.2 percent gain in 2008, the year the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index lost 38.5 percent."

yeah haha

thats what it was

[buoyant herald]

simons is deadass way beyond warren buffer

buffet

[shut crescent]

just insanely crazy

[buoyant herald]

got used to typing out buffer lol

[inner prawn]

the best performing fund in history over a 20+ year period

[shut crescent]

straight phds in that bitch

[inner prawn]

possible to get a swe offer with just a bachelors

but you have to be cracked at cpp/linux

[shut crescent]

i was talking about the medallion fund

[inner prawn]

yeah, im talking about rentech too lol

[buoyant herald]

Low key kind of dangerous. You become unemployable to a decent chunk of the tech sector i think.

What are yalls thoughts on that

[inner prawn]

those type of people would focus exclusively on quant/hft roles

[shut crescent]

it has to be super hard with just a bachelors tho

right

[inner prawn]

yeah, extremely hard

[shut crescent]

like ur prob competing with people who are 10+ years in, phds, etc

like tf

how do u even get in

[inner prawn]

most of those guys go for QR role tbf

[shut crescent]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elwyn_Berlekamp

In 1990, Berlekamp led Medallion to a 55.9% gain, net of fees

lmfao

[hazy gull]

just be good

[shut crescent]

just want half of his brain

[buoyant herald]

why don't people like this run government bruh

[inner prawn]

too busy making fat stacks

[shut crescent]

its waste of time

but yeah this dude was crazy lol

[peak ferry]

money > "civic service"

all you get for serving the government is half the population wanting your head on a pike

[shut crescent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3M7vhh2T_g&ab_channel=ElwynBerlekamp only 600 subscribers

bro definitely deserved more

[chilly burrow]

Good mathematicians don't necessarily make for good leaders

[sinful tendon]

in fact they usually don’t

[slim mortar]

how long to hear back from oa2?

[sour night]

has cisco been sending OAs?

[sweet urchin]

how long does it take to get HRT codesignal?

[sweet urchin]

where does it tell you how many right answers you got on the roblox deer infection thing?

[lapis cove]

sacrifice a deer and read its entrails

[river scroll]

How do you measure how you performed on the Roblox cognitive assessment

like is it even a real metric for the application

[sinful tendon]

you get a certain amount of robux. higher score -> more robux

[night magnet]

Why

[peak ferry]

wait yea huh? idk if ur talking about rentech specifically but I'm p sure people don't discriminate against former trading swes lol

[wicked pendant]

i dont think theyre talking about the trading company name making them unemployable but more about hyperfocusing on cpp/linux

cant comment on whether its a thing or not tho bc idk what companies use cpp outside of hft lul

[peak ferry]

cpp and linux quite useful/desirable lol

all of my current offers are related to low level work keke

I want to go back to C land 😭

[vast mica]

can we share our previous proctored codesignal score with roblox or we need to attempt it ?

[lucid mason]

Yes as long as it’s in the past 6? months

[floral plank]

Anyone knows what is Palantir cooldown policy?

[unborn sorrel]

Has googled opened up the 2023 new grad positions ? Am I late or missing something

[floral plank]

Yeah they did

[shut crescent]

pretty sure early career has been open no?

https://careers.google.com/jobs/results/74057847169524422-software-engineer-early-career/?category=SOFTWARE_ENGINEERING&employment_type=FULL_TIME&employment_type=PART_TIME&employment_type=TEMPORARY&jex=ENTRY_LEVEL&jlo=en_US

[weak latch]

it just opened i think

[shut crescent]

oh waiit thats sydney lol

tf i cant find it

[chilly burrow]

Check #grad_postings_old

[shut crescent]

i legit think they just removed it

theres this https://careers.google.com/jobs/results/108726271002714822-cloud-data-engineer-professional-services-google-cloud/?distance=50&q=Cloud Data Engineer, Professional Services, Google Cloud - United States

@unborn sorrel

yeah i legit think they removed early career

[marble bronze]

?? https://careers.google.com/jobs/results/131020049566573254-software-engineer-early-career-campus/?

[shut crescent]

oh ig im blind

[distant bobcat]

The early career, campus is for someone with less than 1 YOE and early career (Sydney location) was for 1-3 YOE.

[unborn sorrel]

Is early career the same as new grad ?

[chilly burrow]

For the us posting, yes

[weak latch]

Google moment

[whole zinc]

does it usually close this early

[weak latch]

no

it also just opened like 2 days ago lmao

seems like they're really limiting the new grad hire count

[whole zinc]

damn that’s crazy

[summer hemlock]

Well they laid off their contract recruiters lol

So

[chilly burrow]

I think it's becuz of recession 😔

[marble bronze]

HC is probably in the single digits lmao for ng

[peak ferry]

yea at the current moment google seems doomed

[chilly burrow]

I doubt single digits

Maybe like 50~100 per location?

I hav no clu tbh

[peak ferry]

strictly speaking I don't think early career is even supposed to be a ng role, not that I'm telling people not to apply, just that I don't think they're gonna be very accepting lol

[chilly burrow]

I'm 99% sure it is

For one reason

If you look at the coderquad repo

And look at last years google posting

It was also titled early career, campus

[peak ferry]

oh shoot I somehow skimmed over the campus part

ur right

[fresh lagoon]

yeah thats what ppl got interview from last yr 👍

[chilly burrow]

Ya plus the campus part is pretty set in stone

[fresh lagoon]

they also opened/closed it like 3 times

[chilly burrow]

Interesting

I didn't know that

[fresh lagoon]

probably why their deadline is so soon

[chilly burrow]

If they did open/close cycles thats a good sign imo

[peak ferry]

nah ur 100% right I'm just dumb and missed the campus part. they also call their experienced program early career which is confusing bc early career generally doesn't refer to new grad

I'm curious to see how this pans out for folk-- as of a few days ago I haven't heard of anyone actually getting hired at G

[vivid plank]

is optiver OA automated?

[peak ferry]

I never got one so maybe not?

[sudden sequoia]

when netflix opening

[chilly burrow]

sometime dis month afaik

or early sept

[glad thunder]

Someone said Aug 23rd

[gaunt crescent]

what about masters new grad, will it be the same position? for google

[chilly burrow]

Not too sure, but I think it would be different?

They have different roles for their interns, so I'd think the same applies to ng

But not too sure

[gaunt crescent]

hmm yeah, it should

[marsh stirrup]

Any1 know if the free square codesignal is still a thing

Lmao

[winter loom]

Did you end up hearing back yet?

[rain patio]

no

[zinc raven]

where can I find positions specifically for new grads?

[tulip mountain]

#grad_postings_old

https://github.com/coderQuad/New-Grad-Positions-2023

those are some running lists

[zinc raven]

oh totally missed that, thanks a lot!

[stable holly]

I'm a little confused on how I should consider a target based bonus

my offer is 104,000 for orange county california, 5k sign on bonus, 11.5k target based yearly bonuss

[sonic coral]

It depends on the company

[stable holly]

the 104,000 is pretty ass for the area but if I got the 11.5k then it wouldn't be that bad

[sonic coral]

Some companies the base target bonus is nearly guaranteed

Others there’s a chance you’ll get lower

[tulip mountain]

i would assume a "target bonus" means you can get more or less

but assuming you're performing to expectations then you get it

[stable holly]

I think we've missed it twice in the last 5 years (meaning we missed two quarter payouts, it's paid out weighted each quarter)

and our next year is PACKED with revenue boosting releasesss

[tulip mountain]

well i mean https://www.teamblind.com/post/Google-Freeze-Extended-teKCGCAU

[stable holly]

yea we have to first meet revenue target, then we're paid out for that quarter based on quarterly performance

we're not a very uptight company I'd assume you have to really fuck up to get docked on performance

[weak latch]

They’re freezing industry hires but their new grad app is open very limited tho

[tulip mountain]

ye

[weak latch]

Scary scary

I wonder if that means their standards will be much much higher than usual

[unborn sorrel]

If u can’t survive in Orange County with $105k a year that’s on u … if y have kids then it’s hard but just u that’s definitely affordable.. I lived right by Newport Beach for 7 years . I survived making way less but needed Roomate’s .. if I made 105k at the time I wouldn’t need Roomate’s and would be hella comfortable able to save and have fun

[stable holly]

who said I can't survive on 105k lol, that doesn't make the offer competitive

i know plenty of new grads in LA are making 120-150 base

[unborn sorrel]

True ! But If it’s ur only offer I wouldn’t trip ! I’d try to negotiate but I’d still take it if I didn’t have anything else

[stable holly]

they don't do negotiation but I do expect to get an offer around 130k for a similar company in the area so I'm hoping if I throw them my counter offer and say match it or I go to your competitor they'll budge lol

[unborn sorrel]

!!! Definitely try it !

Yo I am conflicted . Google recruiter told me to wait 2023 to apply now I’m seeing the early career open, idk if I should apply or not lol

[hexed moth]

what's the wrost that happens

[lone goblet]

When people ask you to write an intro referral letter in 3rd person, how detailed are you supposed to make it

Like 4-5 sentences or full blown page long letter

[rain patio]

is "company culture" bias?

[hexed moth]

noooooooo

adobe is a workday site

[rose field]

What number should I fill in for 'desired salary'?

[hexed moth]

what is ur desired salary

[chilly burrow]

I don't understand the question

[hushed ember]

So I recently got the rejection mail from Amazon for New Grad role.

It's sort of baffling for me. I did both the questions in OA1 (all test cases passed) with 29 mins left on the clock and thought did well on OA2 as well. I even took notes on the leadership principles.

[rose field]

If I fill in a smaller amount, I may be offered a low salary. If I fill in too much, what if the company rejects me.

[night magnet]

How are yall applying to hubspot?

Dont' see anything here: https://www.hubspot.com/careers/jobs?hubs_signup-url=www.hubspot.com%2Fcareers%2Fstudents%2Fentry-level&hubs_signup-cta=careers-entrylevel-middle&page=1

[keen zinc]

Well, got the generic mail as well

[normal palm]

Put “need more info about the role”

Never put ur desired salary

[keen zinc]

What if the field only accepts numbers

[normal palm]

You know nothing about the role, nothing about the job

Put 0

[hushed ember]

You got the same thing @keen zinc ??

[keen zinc]

Yes

[normal palm]

And if they ask why, say u needed to interview before u made a decision

Putting 0 will make sure that any threshold they manually have will be bypassed and if the recruiter asks for clarification because it has to be a “mistake”, you’ll tell them why

[keen zinc]

Anyone else got the generic mail from zon today?

[normal palm]

What an appalling question, to ask someone what they desire to make, essentially asking them if they want to lowball themselves

[rose field]

sounds great!

[chilly burrow]

No one has applied to hubspot yet

Check #2023_grad_process

[silk cape]

Bloomberg vs Amazon nyc which would you guys take

if similar TC

[hasty birch]

Bloomberg

[marsh stirrup]

Depends on team

[inner prawn]

Bloomberg

Im not biased

[bronze nymph]

def dependent on team, both have really good and bad teams

if you don't know for both, bloomberg is the safer bet

[inner prawn]

I hope people here realize you don’t get into a specific team for Bloomberg

At least not right away lmao

There’s pre-training, then training, then a reverse career fair in which you get to choose a team you like

[bronze nymph]

nope I didn't realize that, I have no idea how it works

[glass latch]

It’s all rng. Did u apply with a referral?

[chilly burrow]

Referrals don't matter for Amazon ng or intern afaik

[hushed ember]

Nah.

[last belfry]

How is the sig oa

[hushed ember]

Rng seems to be pretty stupid especially for a company like Amazon

[chilly burrow]

There's rng for every company

[hushed ember]

Any idea why is that ?

Like it makes no sense

[chilly burrow]

Why randomness and luck have impact on your application?

[hushed ember]

Nah why companies would include any sort of randomness in their hiring process.

[chilly burrow]

They don't choose to

[keen zinc]

How well should I be doing on the HRT oa to get a callback?

[hushed ember]

Yeah anyway RIP my Amazon dream. Hoping to cope up with even more sleepless nights.

[keen zinc]

Feel you, it’s okay. Just move on to the next one

[chilly burrow]

Nah don't feel too down

Plenty of other opportunities

Some even better

[sinful tendon]

amazon is a pretty rough place to work tbh

[keen zinc]

Praying to RNG gods that I breeze through my other interview processes

[tardy geode]

wayfair just laid off like 900 people damn

[tardy geode]

really?

[knotty talon]

is it worth to do Google's top questions on LC?

or they dont really ask em

yeah that's what ive heard

its essentally full-on RNG

[inner prawn]

You just have to know DS&A well

And pray you don’t get dp questions

[formal fable]

No, but I'm expecting that now you guys got em

[formal fable]

Near perfect and you also need to sacrifice a goat to boost your luck. Also a referral from POTUS, cause HRT can still reject you, even if you think you did well

[rapid tree]

How difficult is HRT OA? 3 questions and 3.5 hours?

[wicked pendant]

depends on if youre doing algo or swe

different oas

[formal fable]

3 questions, 2 hours, for 2023 campus algo dev, the 3rd one was pretty hard. I only heard from one on this server who seemingly passed all cases

[rapid tree]

other two questions were easy/medium?

[formal fable]

Medium

There's nothing easy about HRT

[lusty field]

Bruh what is Karat

[inner prawn]

The problem is HRT barely resume screens

So you need to kill every step of the interview process

Or you’re out

[keen zinc]

The first one was a medium, the second one was medium-hard, third was CodeForces level hard

[knotty talon]

you mean they barely accept people through resumes even after killing the OA, or like something else lol

[inner prawn]

They give almost everyone a chance, I think most ppl get the OA

After that it’s purely up to your performance

They have a bunch of employees from “lower ranked” schools

Unlike a place like citadel, which is more elitist

[keen zinc]

Citadel def elitist

[knotty talon]

i see

what's that chinese website where they have a big ass question bank for every company

need me that (for legal reasons, this is a joke)

[vast mica]

anybody else received optiver 72 hr hackerrank test? wtf is this?

[rustic vessel]

I got an optiver 24 hour test

Very confused

[rustic vessel]

72 hour test last year only took around 2 hours. They resume screen after

[marsh stirrup]

Oh is optiver doing 72 hour OAs again

LOL

Oh nvm

[last belfry]

For c1 i received an email from recruiter on august 16th with a bunch of questions and interview dates, replied the same day still haven’t heard back

[late kestrel]

it took me 4 biz days to hear back, only for the recruiter to tell me the original dates had filled up and to pick new ones. i got a confirmation the next day

give it till like EOD monday 🤷‍♂️

[last belfry]

Ok

[formal fable]

Yeah it seems to be different. However, the test was also on codesignal, despite the questions being different from those on the SWE test

[formal fable]

They resume screen after OA. I've had better, almost perfect OAs before that led to rejections. It wasn't random, because I see a strong pattern of pedigree in their employees on LinkedIn. Literally not a single person from my uni, And almost everyone from ivies. GPA is a heavy factor as well, cause they ask for it in the application and the few I've managed to speak to, seem to be top tier grad students

[tardy jetty]

who else waiting for uber phone 😢

[floral plank]

I am waiting for a response

[lusty field]

Any suggestions for preparing for Palantir

[lusty field]

I already got rejected 🫠

[static moth]

applied aug 2, got mine this morning

[vivid plank]

all trading shops are elitist. Some just more than others lol

[rugged berry]

I have Amazon 30x1 interview in a few days. I know that there will be OA1 discussion. So both the questions are discussed? Also, do they ask to code those questions out? Or do they ask another question to code?

[static moth]

congrats on 1x30. pretty much guaranteed offer unless u do something stupid like insult the interviewer lmao. ive heard its just them going thru ur oa1 solutions to ensure u didnt cheat or anything. so be prepared to discuss ur thought process when u originally solved both of those problems, and ive even heard ppl were asked to give the interviewer an estimation of how many times they ran their solution before getting all the test cases lol so keep that in mind too

[weak latch]

is phone what comes next after applying or is there an oa first?

[static moth]

straight to phone

60 min technical phone on the codesignal platform

[weak latch]

i applied to the uber one yesterday

codesignal? Isn't codesignal an oa?

like the GCA bullshit one everyone hates

[static moth]

codesignal GCA is an oa, yes. but some companies conduct their interviews on the actual codesignal platform where u write up ur code and solve the problem

[weak latch]

oh oh oh

[static moth]

uber is one of those companies

[weak latch]

i see i get it

[blazing crystal]

Has anyone moved forward for Microsoft new grad?

[weak latch]

so it's just a tech interview then

[static moth]

yup

[weak latch]

my app is still on transferred since Aug 3rd 😔

[blazing crystal]

There will be an OA first, right?

[weak latch]

Hopefully I can pass the Uber resume screen but I doubt it

[weak latch]

i think they just started doing OAs this year

they used to just go straight to recruiter phone iirc

[static moth]

keep ur head up

[blazing crystal]

So Microsoft haven't rolled out any offers yet?

[weak latch]

don't see anything other than apply in #2023_grad_process

Heads up, the adobe posting in #grad_postings_old leads to a job page that says "TBD". The updated one was posted today https://adobe.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/external_university/job/San-Jose/XMLNAME-2023-University-Graduate---Software-Engineer_R130665

Bruh adobe says you have to relocate on your own expense YIKES

[chilly burrow]

Thanks for the heads up

next time feel free to @ me

it should work now

[weak latch]

Lit 👌

[night magnet]

lmfaoo old mission asking master theorem

🤡

[jaunty snow]

same here!

[inner prawn]

Wtf

[formal fable]

1x30 or 2 back to back?