2023_grads

[timid charm]

lack of control is the main reason. worse uptime too.

[split plaza]

2023 process channel

[cyan heath]

Did anyone here negotiated the start date with amazon ? It’s only available starting October.

[small pike]

Why isn’t there one

[split plaza]

admin busy

[formal fable]

What's wrong with that? Few can justify in-house servers, most are better off on leveraging cloud providers

[timid charm]

if you can afford your own data centers, you should use your own data centers.

working at companies running aws vs something in house is night and day

[wind drum]

fyi waymo partnership is w uber freight only, uber rideshare is exclusive to aurora

[timid charm]

freight is the only short term av aspect which really matters tbh

[wind drum]

i have no idea how significant of their business uber freight is

but i wouldn't be surprised if it's more profitable

[formal fable]

I'd presume building in-house means more complexity, less stability compared to seasoned, mature platforms like AWS (presumably with support)

[timid charm]

better uptime, full end-to-end control of your system, custom rollouts and deployments on regional levels which aws can’t support, better building and scaffolding support

no need to deal w Amazon 😛

[formal fable]

Sure, it's probably more exciting and performant in the long run, but we'd never get anything done at most places I've worked, if we were to focus too much on building infra. And all those work cultures were no different than most companies.

[timid charm]

Uber’s an infra company

it’s the only thing of value the company offers

[formal fable]

IDK why, but I feel building custom scripts/scaffolding for AWS is fewer lines of code, and less of a hassle than developing your own data centers

[timid charm]

therefore it would be weird if they relied on aws

[formal fable]

I mean, I know why, literally every company does it. Like I said, few companies can afford their own servers

[timid charm]

yeah fs it’s less hassle and cheaper initially

[wind drum]

it's much more expensive to use AWS at that scale yeah

[timid charm]

long term tho, esp for a company with as wide of a reach as Uber, it is necessary to scale at your own pace

literally all of Uber’s current issues revolve around scaling and lack of market data

but that’s why their infra is so damn nice 🥺

and documenting and tooling, all very very good

documentation*

[formal fable]

What about them partnerships some of these giants have with cloud platforms? Didn't Netflix recently partner with Azure for ads? Wouldn't that offer them some sort of premium and on-demand scalable infra?

Also, no doubt Uber's doing good with their in-house infra and documentation. I'm just curious.

[timid charm]

nah you’re good it’s a cool topic

idk enough about Netflix to say how bad their scaling problems are

imo they haven’t really innovated anything since they initially solved mass video streaming

from an infra standpoint

so I imagine scaling isn’t super difficult for them

esp since well

they aren’t exactly gaining users lol

[formal fable]

@timid charm Are you working/have worked at Uber?

[timid charm]

a year ago

your typical backend big tech grunt lol

I’m the guy who figured out I can charge you 20 bucks extra for a burger and you’ll still pay 😂

pricing algos

for eats

[chilly burrow]

Y did u do dat

[formal fable]

The amount of decision paralysis I get while ordering the same shit from multiple food delivery apps...

[timid charm]

because they paid me 🙂

[chilly burrow]

can u make it cheaper for me?

I'll dm u $5

[timid charm]

lol

[hazy gull]

Is disney new grad app broken

?

nvm

[novel tide]

what do you mean

i think the app has a range of when you should be graduating

[cyan heath]

Yeah I can see the joining date only in October 2022. P. S i applied for 2022 software grad position

[novel tide]

ahhh okay yeah im looking at 23

not familiar with 22

[rain patio]

Question: how can I find all pairs of integers in an integer array in less than O(n^2) time?

[hexed moth]

magic

[rain patio]

Question: how can I find k pairs of integers in an integer array in less than O(n^2) time?

[chilly burrow]

Anyone interviewing with Vanta?

[hexed moth]

cant you do it in like n time

[ornate sedge]

Anyone done with amazon ng23 1*30 interview?

[unborn grove]

Find unique integers in the array and form pairs with them ?

[wraith idol]

if i click this button for task 3 roblox OA (codesignal)

will it immediately start the codesignal test

[split plaza]

No

[wraith idol]

is the codesignal proctored?

[chilly burrow]

no

[astral solstice]

so no webcam required

[wind drum]

what companies consistently ask dp these days?

[empty socket]

i feel like quant can

[wind drum]

i have a friend who's an L3 interviewer there that was saying that Google is making an effort to not ask dp

but some gatekeepers still ask it

but yeah quant makes sense I just gotta see which ones ask it

[delicate hatch]

How much does Roblox play for NG

Their OA is kinda complex

[marble bronze]

Considering their intern program was insane, probably pretty well

[exotic oracle]

i think 180-200k

maybe up to 220

[wind drum]

nah it's like 240-250

[delicate hatch]

Holy!!

[dusty basin]

Or maybe…. And hear me out…. Just learn dp

[exotic oracle]

https://i.imgur.com/KIa3vlW.png

wow its so much higher lmfao

[empty socket]

thats insane

[wind drum]

at this point yeah ill prob do it but wont be decent at it till end of august

[delicate hatch]

I never thought a gaming company could provide these kind of salaries

[vast mica]

@wheat forum please start the new grad 2023 channel. Will help a lot 🙏

[hexed moth]

i mean they're making it off child labor

[winter loom]

How many days after oa2 did people get the Amazon interview

[wind drum]

damn for summer 2023?

[delicate hatch]

3 days but it includes Saturday and Sunday

[hexed moth]

i got dp in google finals

for summer

[vital meteor]

Did it hurt

[delicate hatch]

I got it within 1hr

[acoustic berry]

same

[chilly burrow]

Snap

[hexed moth]

is snap even worth working for

if u want to do something interesting

[chilly burrow]

Yes

Yes

And no

They'll probably be hiring new grads

Actually I'm fairly certain they will be

Who told u that?

I haven't heard about it so I don't think so

Altho it's def a possibility

[hexed moth]

wait so is snap doing something cool and interesting

hmm

when i think ar i just immediately go to apple tbh

[chilly burrow]

I like the work 🤷‍♂️

[chilly burrow]

Fair, they do got the ar glasses in the works

Bitmoji, so 2d cartoons

[delicate hatch]

Snap got offices in Bay Area?

[chilly burrow]

There's actually a bunch of super interesting work going on at Bitmoji rn

Not to geckos sorry

Y is da Gecko wearin a watch

Respect

[hexed moth]

lmfao is that from repticon

i went to one of those

[crystal delta]

any one know how likely you are to get through to final round if you get karat for palantir

like is resume screening purely done at that point

[lament summit]

has anyone used bytebyte go

for system design

[normal palm]

ugh i hate workday so mUCH

[winter loom]

if i haven't heard back within a business day for amazon after oa2 is that an L?

[normal palm]

wait fr??

[wind drum]

average is closer to 230 but there are quite a few 250 datapoints

[normal palm]

in san fran?

[raw current]

nope

[winter loom]

word still under review

[stoic belfry]

is the leetcode list enough to prep for amazon final?

[dense blaze]

I that’s a huge ass gecko

[vital meteor]

Do top 300 amazon tagged to be safe

[wind drum]

yeah i think sf and san mateo

[glad thunder]

What are the start dates for the amazon offers

[normal palm]

what's amazon's hiring rate in comparison to the recession?

[vital meteor]

About 36.54%

[forest hatch]

Are there redflags in Amazon's work style assessment?

[inner prawn]

youd better pay me at least 500k to work at roblox

[normal palm]

is it too late to?

oh which offers

[wraith idol]

what's the codesignal cutoff for roblox

[primal pike]

where is my minecraft oa

[split plaza]

anecdotally all the people who have gotten offers were like >835

[wraith idol]

hmm

what about to just get first round

[split plaza]

no idea

[empty socket]

835 is cracked

[wraith idol]

i just got 730

im guessing it's a L for roblox

no way to redo it huh

[lament summit]

change ur email

apply again

[wraith idol]

bro

it's tied to ur school email

i dont have multiple @desert river emails

[split plaza]

You’re required to provide a .edu email

[normal palm]

lool

[normal palm]

"anecdotally"

[normal palm]

if u practice codesignal enough ucan actually get pretty high

[primal pike]

u guys got oa already?

[split plaza]

What about it lol

[primal pike]

when did u apply

[normal palm]

the structure of the questions are similar and repetitive

[normal palm]

oh it's actual satire how perfect u have to be in a coding assessment for roblox of all companies

[split plaza]

ic

[primal pike]

https://tenor.com/view/ooof-fort-roblox-dance-gif-14143311

[stone sandal]

Any idea about the interview process for Abnormal Security?

[dusty halo]

Can we apply to Goldman's new analyst program with a referral?

[primal pike]

when does doordash open

[fossil basin]

just got rejected from quora with 819 code signal 😦

[primal pike]

ng?

[fossil basin]

yup

[primal pike]

cant find it

[fossil basin]

I think its closed, title was like 2022/2023 programming challenge

[primal pike]

fak

[chilly burrow]

becuz that's a special app

it's for ppl who did a special quora challenge

unless u did it, you'll prob b rejected

also even if u did pretty sur they resume screen after

[bleak raven]

hi !! do any of y’all have an email template for offer negotiations??

[umbral plover]

i got the phone and didnt do the challenge, got rejected after the phone tho

[chilly burrow]

they prob realized lol

[wraith idol]

when'd u get rejected

tf

ohh

i think u failed the iq test

xd

it's ok

i got 840 last year and got rejected

so same boat

[pastel bane]

is interview whiteboarding supposed to be way harder than oa?

[shrewd ivy]

Yeah? You gotta not only do the leetcode but also explain it well

[chilly burrow]

Because they resume screen after oa

Majority of codesignals are auto/semi-auto

[quartz plinth]

any relo bonus?

[normal palm]

wth LOLL

[covert pecan]

How do referrals for microsoft work? Do I apply first then get a ref or apply through a ref link?

[nocturne oriole]

👍

[supple grove]

My friend who's referring me told me to apply first. Then send him the job id and resume.

[split plaza]

it works either way

[young peak]

Usually 800+

I passed it with a low 800 score iirc

[lament frost]

@young peak

[young peak]

Salut mon ami

Tu vas bien?

[lament frost]

Oui et toi ? Toujours en vacances ?

[young peak]

Oui! Je vais tres bien mais j'ai juste du mal à maintenir les problèmes de visa

C'est tres cinglé

[lament frost]

En français tu auras plus tendance à dire : " c'est fou" ou " c'est juste fou"

Ou encore plus loin "C'est de la dinguerie"

[young peak]

Ohhh merci

[young peak]

Like Sparta?

[lament frost]

Sparta?

[wraith idol]

C'est chiante ça

[coarse quiver]

C'est ennuyeux les problèmes de visa

[acoustic berry]

7k relocation

[lament frost]

Adopte moi comme ça je deviens français

[pastel bane]

thank you

I wonder if the whiteboarding problem itself would be way harder?

[coarse quiver]

Adopter quelqu'un de plus grand que soi

[lament frost]

Ca marche quand meme

[hexed moth]

i mean can u explain things lol

[restive halo]

I’m starting to think they just ignore our preferences lol. I only listed east coast offices on my app and my portal updated last night to sunnyvale

[acoustic berry]

Dang, congrats on the offer though!

[empty socket]

sunnyvale is my number 1 😫😫

congrats!! @restive halo

[acoustic berry]

So now if you get something like Boston you both can just commit identity fraud and work where you want

[empty socket]

😂😂😂😂

[slate bobcat]

anyone know what the palantir phone call is like?

[blissful sonnet]

Yo #2023_grad_process has opened 💀

[lament summit]

pogu

[lament summit]

behav

[azure zephyr]

how's the roblox OA?

[lament summit]

hard

harder than me

[azure zephyr]

roblox has a rly high hiring bar tho right?

[lament summit]

yes

hikey harder than any of the faangs

[azure zephyr]

did anybody put their resume into roblox's system before applying to see if they matched up? im trying to see if the numbers were actually accurate

bc it said i was in the top 5% of applicants and idk about that lol

[lament summit]

i got a referral and still forced to do oa

[buoyant herald]

Bruh they pay like 60k more tc than amazon

[drifting pelican]

Can you use existing code signal for roblox?

[buoyant herald]

They pay the big boy cash money guap

[lament summit]

big boy

[lament summit]

60k?

not after the 2023 raise

[buoyant herald]

Hmm tell me more

I'm just going off levels.fyi

[lament summit]

seattle amazon now pays 190k

so assuming that

sf will probs be like 240

[buoyant herald]

b r u h

That's hella nice nvm

[lament summit]

actual data points for bay not out yet

so dont quote me

before raise it was 200

seattle was 170 -> 190

mayb 200 -> 230?

no idea

[buoyant herald]

Thanks, I will quote you on that

[lament summit]

for 2023?

they raised it

recently

like a couple days ago

[restive halo]

pretty sure they got the nyc offer sometime this week

[lament summit]

think they will send u updates soon

but who tf wants to work for zon anyways

[fresh lagoon]

[restive halo]

I should get a sunnyvale offer sometime today or tomorrow so I guess we’ll see what the moneys like

[lament summit]

im not getting my offer till mid october

[azure zephyr]

congrats! do you think you'll take it or who are you really gunning for?

[lament summit]

i was hoping they would send it earlier so i can use it to nego

ye im return

[drifting pelican]

which company is sunnyvale?

[lament summit]

amazon

sunnyvbale is a location

LMAO

[drifting pelican]

right that's what I figured

[rain patio]

when does amazon follow up after u send final round avalability?

[restive halo]

I’m not entirely sure yet since I’d have to move from NC to CA so I’ll have to sit on it for as long as I can lol

[lament summit]

anywhere from 1 hour to 2 years

im trying to hold off on accepting my amazon offer for as long as i can lmao

[restive halo]

it’s right outside SF but idk if the COL is as expensive as being in SF

[lament summit]

amazon discord server

[azure zephyr]

sunnyvale = bay area comp im pretty sure since you'll prob end up living in the city anyways

[lament summit]

Seattle 2023 SDE return intern to full time: 129,000 base, 50,100 / 33,100 year 1 and 2 bonus, 111,531 stocks on 5/15/40/40 vesting schedule

2023 raise

[sour night]

did disney close for new grad? the link on the github is broken

[lament summit]

but for bay area

LOL

so u def getting raised

does that not count as bay?

ohhh

oof

[azure zephyr]

i dont think that was a new grad job role tbh just a one entry level position

[lament summit]

san diego

is kinda depressing

ngl

[azure zephyr]

i love san diego wym

but also ive only visited for short periods of time

[fresh lagoon]

man diego

[drifting pelican]

Has anyone taken the video interview for imc?

[restive halo]

my cousins live out in san diego and love it

[lament summit]

san diego is too slow for me

i need fast pace env

[restive halo]

my cousins are also a bit young so it seems like a good family area

I just wanted anything east coast 😫

[lament summit]

oop

mines is boston

i dont really want boston

lmao

[restive halo]

I had heard that too but someone else mentioned their location was non-negotiable so idk. also unsure if it’s worth the risk

but i guess this early in the cycle it probably is less risky

yeahhh I probably wouldn’t risk it

worst case I could just transfer teams eventually I suppose lol

[lunar hatch]

What can I expect for old mission oa

Are they LC type qs

[sour night]

What’s a good code signal for Roblox? Idk if a 762 is good enough

[formal fable]

On a side note, has anyone gotten the video interview after a bad OA?

[fossil basin]

is roblox code signal? I got this interactive game thing

or is code signal after the game

[plush crane]

Yeah

[exotic oracle]

Yes codesignsl after

[plush crane]

You also don’t have to take 3 parts at the same time

[fossil basin]

how was the game?

[plush crane]

First one was weird but the second one was pretty fun

[bleak raven]

it’s been 8 days since i applied and no amazon OA, have a offer deadline soon, what do i do

[grizzled bronze]

It's RNG, you could receive it months later. Just accept and renege later if you want to.

[bleak raven]

i want the offer i got, need amazon for negotiation

[acoustic berry]

I thought no one took Amazon for negotiations anyway

[sonic coral]

Amazon doesn’t negotiate new grad but you can certainly use it as leverage for other offers if it’s higher

[acoustic berry]

I thought a lot of places wouldn’t negotiate based on an Amazon offer

[restive halo]

Im pretty sure google doesn’t but idk about other places

[sonic coral]

It all depends on if amazon is higher or not

If it’s higher why wouldn’t they

[river echo]

My friend negotiated with MS using amazon offer

[sonic coral]

Google is higher that’s why I’m pretty sure

[old gulch]

Is optiver oa automatic?

[novel tide]

wait hows that work lol

[novel tide]

why wouldn’t they? “Amazon offers 20k more, but they’re Amazon so we’re not matching that” seems…

Odd

[surreal shuttle]

What is up with this roblox shit

[old gulch]

optiver oa anyone ??

[steep drum]

I received it but yet to give. Do you know what kind of questions are asked?

[drifting pelican]

No that’s what I wanted to ask also

[acoustic berry]

Amazon interviews are a mixture of rng and magic

Who knows

[stable bear]

Basically better companies don’t care about the zon offer

[novel tide]

yeah it makes sense with G or msft or large tech companies

but i feel like the majority of those companies are already offering higher

[vital meteor]

G standard offer is usually higher that's why

If Zon standard offer was higher then G would nego

[calm shale]

Grad process

[stoic belfry]

does microsoft send a confirmation email after you apply?

bcos i haven’t gotten one, and no email from referral either😳

[split plaza]

I didn’t get one

Although you should get an email from referral

[bleak raven]

this is what i’m tryna do but no amazon OA 😭😭😭

amazon just hates me 😔

does anyone have amazon new grad recruiter emails

[exotic oracle]

cant you just find one of the millioon recruiters on linked in

and poach an emaiuk

email

[bleak raven]

every single one has ghosted me from linkedin

i’ve messaged 30

emailed 10

the ones that don’t ghost say sorry i’m not a new grad recruiter

[astral solstice]

anyone have the vmware link

[exotic oracle]

F

[gilded dust]

Rejected by Jane street

Depression is hitting 🥹

[inner prawn]

Lol don’t take it personally, they reject 99.999% of candidates

[astral solstice]

when did u apply

[gilded dust]

Like 2 weeks ago

[astral solstice]

ahh kk, i applied yesterday

[vital meteor]

Try again next year, if you only apply to Jane street you will eventually get it

[astral solstice]

guess my rejection will come in 2 weeks

[gilded dust]

Ya I had my hopes up because I heard they reject fast

Guess they had a lot of applicants this yr

[winter loom]

Anyone got an Amazon interview request today?

[grizzled bronze]

Everyone wants that high TC 🤑

[buoyant fable]

is getting a lot of OAs a good sign or do most companies just give them to everyone?

[gloomy rock]

has anyone heard back from capital one after oa

if so how long after

[buoyant fable]

nope i did their oa yesterday and havent heard back

[vital meteor]

Depends some OA is automatic some are after screen

[grizzled bronze]

Doesn't really mean much, some companies resume screen after OA and even perfect scores can be rejected from going further in the process

[vital meteor]

Like citadel is automatic and everyone gets them

[buoyant fable]

are IMC & Goldman automatic?

[acoustic berry]

Has anyone else who has taken the citadel OA heard back? It has been like 2 and a half weeks for me

[slate bobcat]

I don’t think either are

I got an IMC a few weeks after and I haven’t gotten a Goldman OA yet

also if C1 OA auto?

I literally haven’t gotten one

[acoustic berry]

Yeah I’m pretty sure capital one is auto

I got mine right away

[slate bobcat]

how

I haven’t received one yet

HOW

YAHKUNA HOW

[sonic coral]

Google bumped tc after amazon bumped

So they’re higher

[modern socket]

c1 and goldman are auto

[modern socket]

is google even doing new grad?

[slate bobcat]

That’s so weird

[sonic coral]

They were

[slate bobcat]

cause I literally haven’t gotten an email from them

[sonic coral]

Rn it’s a bit weird, no one knows what’s going on

[split plaza]

Is Old Mission OA auto

[winter loom]

anyone know how long amazon takes to reply after oa2? it's been 2 biz days

[sour night]

we can submit an old code signal test for c1 right edit: u can

[late kestrel]

as a data point i got goldman oa pretty quick but havent gotten C1 after a couple days now

[slate bobcat]

What positions are SWE at Goldman?

I might have applied to the wrong ones

[late kestrel]

iirc its "New analyst in the engineering division" or something

gonna take that OA today... anyone here take it already?

[restive halo]

I took it 3 weeks ago and it was very easy but I haven’t heard anything back

[shrewd ivy]

Yahkuna

[old vector]

this recruiting season gonna be tough boys

but we got this

also this repo hasn't been updated much

[sonic coral]

Godspeed to you 2023 grads

Through the fire and flames bois

[shrewd ivy]

o7

[split plaza]

o7

[delicate hatch]

Amazon Sunnyvale office is really good. It is the HQ of Amazon Labs126 which creates kindles/echo/Alexa devices… I live nearby

[supple grove]

Does auto mean every applicant will get one?

[split plaza]

yes

[supple grove]

Thanks~

[ornate drift]

has anyone not received a roblox OA yet? i sent in an application a day ago and still nothin' despite me seeing how people are seemingly getting the OA quickly

[novel tide]

mine flipped to atlanta

no idea why

at least they add reloc but like.. do i want to move to atl?

[sinful imp]

Should I go for Amazon Boston or Seattle? any suggestions please?

[restive halo]

ATL is a pretty fun city

[novel tide]

COL looks low

(compared to arlington, NYC, seattle, etc)

[rain patio]

did anyone else have a capital one recruiter reach out to ask questions without the OA being sent to you first

[novel tide]

is it just confirming information?

if so, normal

[rain patio]

yeah

[novel tide]

mine confirmed info between OA and power day, so might (?) be fast-tracked

[rain patio]

I did OA last year so I that may have something to do with it

[novel tide]

yeah perhaps

my experience was also for intern

so who knows

[sonic coral]

not really, there are teams/orgs that are remote friendly but i dont know of any that have swe stuff (at least entry level) in their small NY office

MSFT ng application is a general one to several locations anyway

the location specific stuff is for industry peeps

i dont even think its possible for entry level

your chance of getting a remote team isnt impossible tho

most yes but they also have bay and cambridge

oh and ATL

atl and bay are the two largest after redmond

idk which is bigger

i think atl but not sure

[delicate hatch]

If I get Microsoft offer I would like to work for the Xbox division

[sonic coral]

if you're a ng very high chance you'll get azure

only people i know who got non-azure were interns

there was i think one or two people who got some dev org

like the people who work on vscode i think?

but xbox i havent heard of anybody but return interns

yeah i think so

well AI stuff

so there's some azure people there

https://www.microsoftnewengland.com/

[winter loom]

Anyone get an Amazon interview today ?

[covert pecan]

Does anyone know anything about the capital one Technology Development Program Associate role? Like is it a legit job or just training

[sonic coral]

I think it’s a rotational program

Meaning you do rotations with 2-3 teams and if you do well you get a job

[empty socket]

its a legit job

rotational program to work on and experience different teams

[modern socket]

can anyone explain why amazon keeps sending me experience surveys even though they haven’t even sent me the oa yet?

[white escarp]

^ same

🤣

[sinful tendon]

im on day 4 waiting for interview and have gotten 3 surveys

[late kestrel]

yup same here lol

[bleak raven]

it is if u intern and switch teams

source: i intern at microsoft and am relocating to nyc for full time

[sonic coral]

Oh interesting like you’re gonna be in the office not remote

[bleak raven]

so i’m in outlook

and the nyc team is outlook mobile

[sonic coral]

Gotcha

[bleak raven]

so manager said he’ll try to let me pop on by

i work verrry close to mobile

doing mobile backend infrastructure for notifications basically

so i’m a rare case

[sonic coral]

I met a msft intern in Seattle on Xbox marketplace and that shit seemed chill af lol

[bleak raven]

my team has on call so no chill team for me 😔

[sonic coral]

Oh rip

But msft oncall is only 12 hours isn’t it?

[bleak raven]

my intern project is handling 1 billion requests daily 😭😭😭

[sonic coral]

Not 24/7

[bleak raven]

2 week rotations for my team

2 members, 12 hours i think

[sonic coral]

Yeah that’s good honestly, quite a few companies have 24/7 oncall even goog

You can actually get sleep

[delicate elm]

Damn how common is this? Both my parents work on-call (diff industry) and they say to never do it because of the stress so I’m trying to avoid it.

[cobalt siren]

Damn looks like vmware is resume screening after OA

[lapis cove]

yea i think thats pretty common for SWE, my team at a startup has 24hr oncall as well

whats the vibe on roblox these days, recruiter hitting me up

[chilly burrow]

They pay v well

[lapis cove]

hows wlb and culture tho

[acoustic berry]

I’ve heard very good from someone from my school that goes there

[lapis cove]

i got an intern offer last year so i get to skip counting foxes and playing roblox or whatever ppl are saying the OA is lol

[white escarp]

what did u decline roblox for? LOL

[acoustic berry]

It’s not actually playing Roblox really

[lapis cove]

gem

cuz i wanted a more sure return offer

[white escarp]

i thought roblox pay more lol

[lapis cove]

its pretty similar for new grad, roblox has benefit of their stock being public tho

intern offer the salary was less but they put me in a some super nice corporate housing in SF so the overall money they’re spending on me is prob similar

[chilly burrow]

Gem pays more but it's paper

[lapis cove]

^

[white escarp]

gem gave interns stock?

[chilly burrow]

No I meant for ng

Idk abt intern pay

[lapis cove]

intern offer was 7-8k/mo + corporate housing

[chilly burrow]

But I'd assume at least 9k a month

[lapis cove]

also u get access to all normal employee benefits which is kinda pog

[chilly burrow]

Someone sent an offer breakdown here

[lapis cove]

i think u can also do 4k/mo housing stipend instead of corp housing but i didnt know about that until atter

[ocean hinge]

just done with my 2x60 lads . Got asked lc hard FML

[white escarp]

for both rounds?

[late kestrel]

GS OA gave me a lc easy/med that i cant find anywhere online and a lc medium if anyone was interested. all test cases passed

[ocean hinge]

First round was lc hard

second was a ood

[white escarp]

sounds baddd

LOL

i thought ood is only for sde1

[acoustic berry]

How do they justify such a huge difference in difficulty between 1x30 and 2x60 lol

[ocean hinge]

no idea man. I think i did well on the ood question

but for lc hard my solution was not optimal fo sho

[ocean hinge]

No idea !

[restive halo]

Got the amazon offer

[ornate sedge]

Congratulations man

What was ur interview format?

[buoyant fable]

if i got 100% and 6/15 on the two questions for Goldman OA am i screwed

[restive halo]

1x30

[vital meteor]

congratszzz!!!

[late kestrel]

idk if anyones heard back from gs yet

[acoustic berry]

Where?

Oh wait you said earlier I forget

[buoyant fable]

one more q - do most new grad jobs get posted around this time or will they be later on?

because i've only found 30 or so whereas i applied to around 300 internships a couple years ago

[acoustic berry]

Now is a bit early for most smaller companies I think

Like a lot early

[buoyant fable]

ok good to know thanks!

[vital meteor]

get yourself verified in amazon discord

[hasty glade]

Is blind 75 enough prep for Roblox OA?

[split plaza]

it’s CodeSignal, so basically rng

[clear basin]

Anyone heard of the company "Whatnot"? I have a phone screen with them

[late kestrel]

season literally just started + hiring slowdowns. give it a month or two and there will be a million + 1 postings

[restive halo]

I don’t think it says it in the offer but my portal says Sunnyvale so I assume that

[surreal estuary]

what are the start dates for it?

[restive halo]

My letter says July 17th

[warped cedar]

is anyone else gonna try to accept 2 (if possible) offers and then renege one closer to start date

im like paranoid of getting one rescinded

cuz of what has been happening

cuz ik at twitter they rescinded like a bunch of new grads a week before starting date

[vital meteor]

yes

just accept both

[warped cedar]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[frank wedge]

Yeah I did this with 4

[warped cedar]

danggg ok yeah gotta stay safe 😭

[gilded dust]

Recession is over

[warped cedar]

u never know

ppl get their offers rescinded every year

[sonic coral]

Cap

[primal pike]

mf how

teach me your lp ways

[rain patio]

answer the work sim like ur the nicest guy on thje planet

everytime i get an email i hope its the final avalability response but its not

[gusty sand]

was it a discussion of ur OA questions or different?

[compact vortex]

audible is weird in that it opens and closes its applications to limit the pool

it will prolly open again

[exotic oracle]

that IMC oa was tough

[supple grove]

Applied amazon on 7/12. Haven’t get an OA

[winter loom]

what does your portal say?

[late kestrel]

gave myself 30 minutes for Q3 on codesignal and it still wasnt enough 😔

[wind drum]

paypal doesn’t hire Swe II straight out of school right

[supple grove]

Application submitted

[rain patio]

finally amazon final round scheduled

guess hr at amzon works overtime cause i get emails from them 9pm east

[marble bronze]

Hope you land it

[rain patio]

its a 1x30 so my chances are good

[marble bronze]

Give me your luck uwu

[rain patio]

just bomb oa 1 and ace oa 2 ez pz

[primal pike]

did u prepare for oa2

i ace oa1 bomb oa2

[rain patio]

yeah i read the lp principles

[winter loom]

when'd you finish oa2?

i submitteed tuesday and haven't heard back

[rain patio]

i did it friday heard back tuesday

[winter loom]

oh you weren't able to schedule it as soon as you heard back?

[rain patio]

i scheduled it tuesday too

[winter loom]

gotchu

[restive halo]

about 10 minutes of walking through the OAs and then he gave me about 20 minutes to ask questions about amazon

[primal pike]

any previous exp

[rain patio]

have u checked portal

[surreal estuary]

the email for the final says they'll respond within 5 business days

just chill and email after that time frame

[keen aurora]

I have applied to various positions(new grad sde ,sde) roles at amazon. I will be graduating in Dec'22. I didn't get any reply from the application that i have submitted.Recently,Amazon go team recruiter reached out to me on linkedin for Amazon SDE role.I have taken OA and passed it today.he said there are 4*60 interviews.I think the position seems to be for experienced guys can I ask the recruiter to change for newgrad sde role? is it possible to do so?

[surreal estuary]

you said you took it last friday

it has been ~4?

[raw current]

this is because you applied to typical SDE1 role at Amz

That's normal/ typical interview for SDE1 at Amz

[keen aurora]

can I ask him for change?

[marble bronze]

Maybe

[raw current]

no hurt to try

[inner prawn]

No, you have to go through student programs

That sounds like a recruiter for a specific amazon team

Industry hire SDE1

[sonic coral]

neurodiversity dox?

[livid yew]

Never supposed to fill those Qs out on applications. They reverse discriminate

[novel tide]

anyone know what amzn teams are in atlanta?

[livid yew]

I only ever answer the gender question, cause it usually autofills

But yeah I am quite neurodiverse

[vital meteor]

I believe the hire to fire teams are there

Why do you ask?

[novel tide]

well fuk

offer

[vital meteor]

Lmao I'm joking

[novel tide]

i figured lmao

"oh thats where they send the shitters."

[vital meteor]

You can always try to change location

[inner prawn]

They call Atlanta Pip City for a reason

[novel tide]

faq says location is final, but i asked anyways

[sonic coral]

idk the size of the atlanta office but even smaller offices like austin still have tons of teams in them

[inner prawn]

I’m just joking btw I’m sure Atlanta is fine

[sonic coral]

location alone usually isnt enough to determine what your team is like

[novel tide]

for sure

its not reston (aws) or nyc (probably ads) though

so curious if there was a correlation with it

[sonic coral]

what? nyc doesnt instantly mean ads

[novel tide]

but regardless they're all massive

probably ads

[sonic coral]

my friends in marketplace

[inner prawn]

I don’t think there’s a correlation

[sonic coral]

theres also devices, business, music etc

[novel tide]

hmm yeah

[sonic coral]

amazon is HUGE

[novel tide]

well my data points are from people in here. so thank yourself for that.

[sonic coral]

you cant correlate a location with a specific type of team

[novel tide]

[rain patio]

has amazon ever rescinded ng offers

[inner prawn]

It’s rob’s fault tbh

[novel tide]

exactly

[livid yew]

Mostly the case

However it is common to have Business departments in like Chicago/NYC

[sonic coral]

honestly as someone who was an intern even people internally cant really tell what teams are mostly in a location

[inner prawn]

I know Microsoft hires in Atlanta a lot

[novel tide]

thats fair honestly

[sonic coral]

its just too much people

lol

[vital meteor]

https://discord.gg/HTmwSGCB

[novel tide]

its an immense company

thanks

[inner prawn]

Be careful, that server can be cringe

[sonic coral]

for faang since they're headquartered on the west coast its usually scattered all over

[livid yew]

It would make sense to have related teams in the same location lol

[sonic coral]

faang is too distributed lol

[livid yew]

Tbh I would want to work at HQ at FAANG

[sonic coral]

like for example my org at G is basically split between austin/NY/bay

[livid yew]

How big is the org?

[sonic coral]

uhhh lemme check lmao

[novel tide]

instantly muted it, dont worry

[livid yew]

Yeah but your smaller team is probably all in Austin

Cause like org > team > some smaller teams

[vital meteor]

You should ask location change there iirc it's easier to change now

Before you had to reject offer

And do a survey

[novel tide]

gross

im split between atl vs arlington area

[livid yew]

Arlington VA?

[sonic coral]

actually nah lol they're 40-60 between ny and austin lol

[novel tide]

yep

[late kestrel]

just curious, anyone look at their microsoft application and its been "transfered"

[livid yew]

So fake DC lmao

[sonic coral]

so my entire org is like 250 people roughly, then we got the suborg thats like 65 people and there's my team 11 people

and the 11 people are split between ny and texas

[livid yew]

Gotcha. Math checks out

[novel tide]

yep. i mean honestly id probably move to live in DC over arlington but regardless, office is nearby

less fake DC than reston/dulles

[sonic coral]

suborg is also split between ny/austin, not sure how many bay

[livid yew]

Our highest level org is 1200 people

[sonic coral]

but i know for sure there's people in the org itself in bay

[livid yew]

Or well maybe more

[sonic coral]

oh and also our org is a part of core which is like several thousand people lol

i think like 2600

[livid yew]

Yup

[novel tide]

can you define org for me

[livid yew]

Gotta be friends with a manager wayy yo there

[sonic coral]

it really depends on the company

in amazon orgs should be top level

[novel tide]

for amazon i meant

sorry

c1 calls everything a line of business

[sonic coral]

yeah so i was just referring to G in a general faang context

but for zon basically you have top level orgs like consumer, aws, business, devices etc

[livid yew]

CEO > VPs > Business Unit > several orgs > smaller sub-org > team

[novel tide]

gotcha

ty

[sonic coral]

below the org you have like suborgs

[livid yew]

Something like that maybe

[sonic coral]

then suborgs are split into like large teams

[surreal shuttle]

Just got my Dall-E invite what should I do next?

[sonic coral]

then those large teams are split into smaller teams

[surreal shuttle]

@pulsar mural

[sonic coral]

YOOO you got dalle

[dusty basin]

Make a black and white pic of a raccoon wearing a black turtleneck posing like Steve Jobs

[sonic coral]

make more raccoons

[dusty basin]

And send it to me

[livid yew]

We would need a flow chart to properly explain corporate structure

[sonic coral]

like to give you a specific example from my internship team at zon, i was in checkout apps team, which was under cart and checkout suborg, which was under consumer org

[novel tide]

yeah that sounds roughly the same as what ive experienced elsewhere

[sonic coral]

checkout apps i think was also a part of the larger checkout team iirc

but i forgot

[livid yew]

Yeah corporate structure is a pretty standard formula

[surreal shuttle]

DM me. I am unable to DM you

[dusty basin]

Accept req

[sonic coral]

but yeah point being even if you knew what orgs are in a location that still doesnt tell you much lol

since these orgs have hundreds if not thousands of teams

[dusty basin]

It’s official bois

Dall-E sux

[livid yew]

Why are we in #2023_grads

[dusty basin]

Idk

[sonic coral]

yo i can share the specific prompt the guy who made the turtleneck raccoons used

[livid yew]

I feel old

[dusty basin]

No bro @surreal shuttle did a solid job

Just missing the Steve Jobs pose

[sonic coral]

"happy racoon wearing a yellow turtleneck, studio, portrait, facing camera, studio, dark bg”

[livid yew]

I think I've met up to the org SVP. Pretty nice dude

[dusty basin]

Oh shit

[sonic coral]

try maybe "thinking raccoon wearing a black turtleneck, studio, portrait, facing camera, studio, white bg, monocolored"

[dusty basin]

@sonic coral yo

[sonic coral]

bay right?

yeah goog bay is 220k

well like 212 if you dont count relo lol

its slightly higher i think

[dusty basin]

Relo adds 7k to zon

[sonic coral]

yo @surreal shuttle how long did you wait for dalle

[jagged torrent]

No

[sonic coral]

if you're 50 miles away

[surreal shuttle]

Like two months i think

[dusty basin]

If u live 50 miles or more away, yea

[sonic coral]

can you share your account

[dusty basin]

Can u fo

[jagged torrent]

Ok

[dusty basin]

I feel bad now

[sonic coral]

altho actually yeah if you just take requests thats effectively the same thing lmao

[dusty basin]

I am sorry @jagged torrent

Pls come back

[sonic coral]

@surreal shuttle try this "thinking raccoon wearing a black turtleneck, studio, portrait, facing camera, studio, white bg, monocolored" i'm curious to see what it generates

[jagged torrent]

Thank you for bringing me back

[vast mica]

do you know if there is a difference between industry bire SDE1 (1 yeqr exp) and new grad amazon in terms of TC?

[dusty basin]

Ya

Ng is peanuts

Industry hire is not

In serious terms

U can’t nego ng

So usually ur middle of band for that year

[vast mica]

they are paying 200k to ng, what can we expect for sde1?

[dusty basin]

Idk what they’re doing with pay bumps

[vast mica]

I got an OA for SDE 1 positiom

[jagged torrent]

I tried negotiations Amazon ng

They told me to fuck off

True story

[dusty basin]

Since afaik it’s only ng offers that got bumped. The bands are the same

[dusty basin]

I did too

[vast mica]

Recruiter reached me out out, since I had 1 year exp

[jagged torrent]

Did they raise ?

[vast mica]

but the process is hard

[dusty basin]

Yes

[sonic coral]

assuming you get bay

[dusty basin]

I now get paid as much as bezos

[sonic coral]

high chance you get seattle

[dusty basin]

Seattle new ng tc is like 180-sth

Too lazy to calc

[sonic coral]

yerp

tony got SD without even having SD on his prefs

[jagged torrent]

Amazon was gonna put me in their AIGC org

[vast mica]

my god 😂

[dusty basin]

Yea zon doesn’t give a shit lol

[vast mica]

any info on sde1 tc then ?

[dusty basin]

It’s just OA and interview

[sonic coral]

the location prefs are just a formality lmfao

[dusty basin]

[vast mica]

4 interviews (including bar raiser)

[dusty basin]

Ya

[sonic coral]

@surreal shuttle are you there

[dusty basin]

Not rly uncommon

[vast mica]

?

[dusty basin]

@surreal shuttle pls send me the Steve Jobs pic when u make it based on rob’s specs

[jagged torrent]

So why is everyone a raccoon

What did I miss

[dusty basin]

Idk

@frigid ember started it

[jagged torrent]

Wings has been a raccoon

[dusty basin]

And then the bois did it so I did it

[jagged torrent]

Fair enough

[sonic coral]

tom you can join us you know

[jagged torrent]

Im an ally

But I’m not done with the orange name

[dusty basin]

“Return intern”

Keyword

[jagged torrent]

I think return interns get 10 k more

On sign on

That’s it

[dusty basin]

But apart from stock grant and bonus, the rest is same p sure

[sonic coral]

watch goog bumps bay base to 149.5 lol

[dusty basin]

They get more stock too

[jagged torrent]

G threw me into a random team

Like they didn’t do team match with me

Because of the hiring stuff

[dusty basin]

So u joined Amazon basically

[jagged torrent]

Yeah

Pretty much

[dusty basin]

Gg bro

[sonic coral]

wait @jagged torrent why madge

[marble bronze]

Nice

[frigid ember]

I'm still rallying for our own raccoon colored names

[jagged torrent]

Im still in ads though

[sonic coral]

you'd get the base increase too lol

[frigid ember]

also hello squad

[dusty basin]

@tall solar would like a word with u

[sonic coral]

remember when they bumped base existing employees got the bump too

[jagged torrent]

Cause I doubt they’ll bump people that already signed

[livid yew]

I never understood 2nd year sign on

[sonic coral]

last time they bumped like november/dec iirc

[jagged torrent]

Oh really

That would be sick

[sonic coral]

you'd be working by then

[dusty basin]

Amazon does it bc their vesting is back heavy

[jagged torrent]

Nvm then

[livid yew]

Like you already started. So it's not really a "sign on" at that point

[jagged torrent]

[livid yew]

It's just bonus lol

[sonic coral]

its just split in two

[frigid ember]

any of you guys get a bump at 1 yoe at current companies? just curious

[sonic coral]

your signon is with first paycheck anyway

msft does the double signon as well

if you go above 40k iirc

[dusty basin]

Amazon doesn’t afaik

[jaunty basalt]

we get bump in february

[jagged torrent]

[dusty basin]

Oh wait we have pcs bump

[sonic coral]

goog does yearly bump i think

[dusty basin]

So ya we do

[jagged torrent]

I want to start work

I haven’t been doing shit but gaming lately

Im bored

[dusty basin]

Not for industry hire at zon

[jagged torrent]

I have another month of this

[livid yew]

My merit review is in March. So I might get a bump before I'm even here 1 yr

[sonic coral]

oh wait its prorated right

[dusty basin]

Sem

But April for me

[livid yew]

Just do your job really well. And maybe to get additional bonus :prayge:

[frigid ember]

i decided i want a colored name

[livid yew]

[sonic coral]

hmm that appears to be a fail

good try i guess

thanks for running it

[dusty basin]

Mine is best attempt

[sonic coral]

what did you put in

[dusty basin]

Thanks to @surreal shuttle

Idk. Ask them

[livid yew]

Is dallie 2 still invite only?

[sonic coral]

btw i found out when my first paycheck is

aug 19

[dusty basin]

Nice

[sonic coral]

tomorrow is payday but only for workdays before aug 1

[livid yew]

Welcome to bi-weekly salary

[dense blaze]

Fuck. Mine won’t probably come in until sept

Yooo i found out that my closet studio has a microwave

Good enough to cook

[jagged torrent]

Do u cook chicken in the microwave

[dense blaze]

No but i won’t have a choice for a week

[nocturne oriole]

I think I lived off of hot pockets for a month

2x a day

With microwave lol

[jagged torrent]

Fuck

[dense blaze]

That’s gonna be me next week

[sonic coral]

is there a chipotle nearby

[nocturne oriole]

Yeah i didnt gain weight but i felt TERRIBLE

[jagged torrent]

Im sure you did lmfao

[dense blaze]

There’s a chipotle in front of the office but I’m gonna be frugal af. I just have 1k to support myself this month

[jagged torrent]

Well on track to becoming Amazon’s next employee

Frugality is very important

[dense blaze]

Man fuck this. I’ve done this for 4 years in college

[sonic coral]

chipotle honestly goated for leftovers

so worth considering

[dense blaze]

I don’t leave leftovers

[jagged torrent]

I’d say shawarma plates are best leftovers

[dense blaze]

Meanwhile in Mexico

[marble bronze]

mfw 550+ apps and 0 offers

[livid yew]

Just do some door dash or something for extra cash

[jagged torrent]

That’s so cute

Did he ask if you wanted to save 15% on car insurance

[dense blaze]

I don’t have a car. I could do bicycle though

[dense blaze]

He did actually

[jagged torrent]

Too bad u don’t have a car

[restive halo]

im not a return intern but got a bay area offer with the same stock

[livid yew]

I'd give you probably 40-50% tip if you delivered my chipotle on a bike

[dense blaze]

I wouldn’t I’m a cheap Mf

[plush crane]

Are the codesignal practice tests a good practice for gca or not really?

[jagged torrent]

Does anyone here have a car

Or plan on buying one

[sonic coral]

Are you wondering what’s a good rate rn

[jagged torrent]

No I don’t plan on getting one soon

[sonic coral]

arent you moving to the bay?

[jagged torrent]

That’s def the move if u are

[jagged torrent]

Yeah but SF

So I can depend on public transportation hopefully

[sonic coral]

so you just gonna rent a car with like gig if you wanna go outside the city i guess

[jagged torrent]

Pretty much

[sonic coral]

is your office SF

[random cobalt]

Did anyone get gs interview?

They rejected me and i aced the oa, did the thing in like 35 mins

How much time did it take for you guys to receive capital one oa, i didn't receive it after applying

[sonic coral]

the admins on my college campus had that shit floored bro

and drove it on sidewalks students would be on

gave no fucks

[jagged torrent]

No my office is MTV

But I found a roommate who also wants to live SF

[sonic coral]

damn i guess you working on the gbus

[jagged torrent]

And commute to mtv

So it’s cool I guess

[sonic coral]

ohhh carpool?

[jagged torrent]

No he’s gonna take bus with me

Also a noogler

[sonic coral]

yeah its like an hour ride i think

[jagged torrent]

Apparently most days it’s 45 mins

[sonic coral]

do they avoid rush hour traffic somehow?

[jagged torrent]

Yeah there’s a bus lane on the highway

[sonic coral]

oh thats actually pog

[jagged torrent]

I would do that if I was planning on staying in the bay long but I’m there max for 2 years

So I wanna live somewhere fun

[sonic coral]

where to from bay lol

[jagged torrent]

Back to Canada 🇨🇦

[sonic coral]

oh damn really?

[jagged torrent]

I just want the Toronto office to open

And I’ll happily go back

[sonic coral]

wait is the toronto office closed or something

[jagged torrent]

But the current google office is in the middle of no where

No but they didn’t officially open it yet

[sonic coral]

oh its brand new??

[jagged torrent]

It’s just a workspace apparently for employees

Yeah

[sonic coral]

thats sick

there's a brand new building in austin that still doesnt have people i think

but like construction's finished

[jagged torrent]

My goal is really just speed run promotion

And then transfer to Toronto

If not that NYC

[sonic coral]

same idea with me except NY lol

luckily my team/org is basically split between austin and ny so i shouldnt have any issue transferring locations

[jagged torrent]

Oh that’s sick

Idk anything about my team yet

[sonic coral]

yeah i got really lucky

it seems pretty chill too just based off the all hands

[jagged torrent]

I find out more on the 11th

When I meet my manager

[late kestrel]

how long until you got rejected? just aced the OA today

so weird tho

[sonic coral]

you moving before start?

or after

[random cobalt]

3 days

[late kestrel]

lame. guess we'll see next week

[jagged torrent]

My start date is sep 6th

[random cobalt]

I have no freaking clue how

[jagged torrent]

I’ll prob move beginning of sep

[elder locust]

Anyone get hrt recruiter email

[late kestrel]

nothing like hidden hidden test cases, those'll getcha

[astral solstice]

is there any way to apply to google rn

or have the new grad postings been yeeted

[buoyant herald]

Anyone do a citadel phone interview?

[winter loom]

@jagged ravine did you reach out to a bloomberg recruiter? i thought bloom wasnt open

oh shit nice