#2023_grads

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bleak raven
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we’re the cheapest talent

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look at it from that angle

gilded dust
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True

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Idk if I am talent tho 😂😮‍💨

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Hopefully my return offer doesn’t get rescinded 🥹

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I’m way too lazy to leetcode can barely get one in per day

bleak raven
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all my interviews i’m planning to just raw dog

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go in and charm them with behavioral

chilly burrow
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Disagree

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If you're laid off, you have experience to fall back on

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If you're a new grad, and can't find a job during recession ur kinda screwed

sudden sequoia
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yeah fax lol but its ok guys think abt it this way

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if u do find a job during a recession

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u can invest at a discount!

gilded dust
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U get cheap stocks 🥵

sudden sequoia
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ur set

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that too

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loll

gilded dust
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We got this guys

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I heard Jane st is hiring full capacity

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🥱🥱

buoyant herald
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get your money up

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not your funny up

vocal spade
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Except FAANG what are the good companies to work for in Canada. Is there a list somewhere?

gilded dust
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I wonder if google interns will still be able to get return offer

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Given the freeze

rain patio
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how many stories are recommended to have prepped for zon LPs

buoyant herald
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I got a meta offer rescinded cause of uscis work authorization delays

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Low key blessing

rain patio
vocal spade
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Well, how do you go on to find jobs before graduation? Mass apply to LinkedIn?

gilded dust
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Don’t apply via LinkedIn, apply via the company website

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^^

buoyant herald
gilded dust
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Also make sure to eat well and exercise atleast 30 mins per day 💪💪

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Health is most important at the end of the day

vocal spade
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Ah, without money, no good food, eventually the biological system breaks down

fickle stump
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Idk how accurate this list is anymore but

vocal spade
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Does personal projects/portfolio sites add any value (like getting more interview calls)?

buoyant herald
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A spanking github profile readme is better i think

chilly burrow
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esp if u dont got exp

vocal spade
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I don't have experience in any Canadian companies. But I do have some experience from another company from another country. Don't know if it will be counted or not.

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It's better to be on the safe side I guess

dense blaze
sudden sequoia
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if anyones done quora technical phone screen before yall know how hard it is?

umbral plover
sudden sequoia
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oh wtf srsly?

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damn

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it was on codesignal?

umbral plover
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ya

sudden sequoia
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aight thx imma not schedule it for this week then lol

rain patio
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any tips on amazon oa 2?

sudden sequoia
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ooofff

drifting pelican
vital meteor
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@keen gulch congratzb

keen gulch
misty fable
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msft hasnt opened summer 2023 hiring for new grads have they

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i cant see any listing online

sudden depot
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no they havent. should be next month

misty fable
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where do we usually track openings like this?

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specifically canada

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i'm seeing a bunch of repos in gh but they're mostly US stuff

sudden depot
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not sure for canada

misty fable
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thanks! if someone else knows, please @ me <3

shut crescent
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are there any 2023 grad openings rn?

shut crescent
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thanks

shy yarrow
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If anyone else is applying for security engineering roles lmk, tryna share roles/prep bc it's more niche than swe

split plaza
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2sig out btw

cedar zodiac
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^ got a message from the tapia conference

acoustic berry
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If anyone is wondering if Amazon 1x30 is still a thing I can confirm it is.

grizzled bronze
acoustic berry
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100% on both for coding OA

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I just had the final 2 hours ago. Really easy no technical and no LP just review of OA

red pier
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msft might have hiring freezes in place depending on the org as well

hazy gull
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mine was perfect

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but my Oa2 def wasnt

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got 2*60

acoustic berry
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I also finished both OA1+2 in around 1 hour combined so I don't know if they include time

hazy gull
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finished oa1 in 30 min

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Doubt it has to do with that

acoustic berry
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true, I also don't know if resume is considered at all with deciding or if it is automatic based on scores

hazy gull
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No idea

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u prob did very well on oa2

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like perfect

limpid tulip
acoustic berry
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June 25

whole berry
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interesting

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someone had talked about behavioral OA and some key things to remember

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like keep customer happy always

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deliver on deadline even if you have to withhold features

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etc etc

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i dont remember all of them

rain patio
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What’s a revoked feature?

whole berry
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sorry ill edit that

rain patio
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I feel like I've been slacking for the last 2-3 months. I need to improve my pace but I can't feel motivated to work on anything. its so annoying :/

acoustic berry
whole berry
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you got savings?

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my wise friend once told me that unless bills were knocking on my door i wouldnt be efficient with my time

rain patio
whole berry
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well then heres an actual tale, i knew a senior when i was a sophomore and he chilled and relaxed after grad for a month and that chill session turned into 2 years for him and he just recently got a job

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so you gotta take advantage of the new grad roles because if you miss out itll be hard

novel tide
novel tide
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they better hurry up with scheduling the final im stressing out for no reason

robust herald
livid yew
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Maybe Canada

robust herald
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amazon software dev centers are in other countries also. Like Canada, India.

livid yew
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who would willingly work in India, pay is shit there

novel tide
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bruh lol

robust herald
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engineers who live in India will work in India, right?

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and pay isn't bad for faang companies in India if you consider the COL.

rough ruin
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COL is irrelevant when you die from air quality

nocturne oriole
dense blaze
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?avatar @rain patio

earnest warrenBOT
nocturne oriole
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el chango

dense blaze
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Monke

robust herald
nocturne oriole
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why not both?
mexico has entered the chat

dense blaze
runic wind
livid yew
undone reef
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hi

novel tide
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hello kirby

vestal pelican
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It's been a week and still haven't heard from Jane Street 😢

vestal pelican
prisma basin
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Y there no channel for grad process

livid yew
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I mean having a FT 2023 offer already is insane

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That's still like 11 months away lol

gusty sand
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December Grads also apply for 2023

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new grad 2022 is for graduation before October

fickle stump
robust herald
acoustic berry
livid yew
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Like honestly why do they care

robust herald
robust herald
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not sure if this is true for all companies. But this was the case for amazon

livid yew
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Ah well I guess yeah 2022 for May grads and 2023 for December grads

wild pewter
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is akuna OA auto?

sudden sequoia
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i don’t think it is

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anyone international get amazon oa?

dusty basin
old vector
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damn not many good companies recruiting for new grads rn

ocean hinge
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Hey ! if you dont mind can you tell what topic was your lc question in amazon interview? I just want to know if it was dp.

old vector
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do the good applications come out in august?

errant karma
sudden sequoia
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im canadian

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but go to university in th eus

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the us*

vital meteor
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🍁

sudden sequoia
sudden sequoia
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unless ofc hiring freeze continues

errant karma
sudden sequoia
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i see got it

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is oa just rng bruh

errant karma
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Yeah

sudden sequoia
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rip gotta wait it out then ig

unborn grove
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Did two sigma ng 2023 open up ?

errant karma
dusty basin
chilly burrow
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Sentry, Brex, and Databricks just to name a few

rain patio
buoyant herald
sudden sequoia
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hi

rain patio
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yo

shrewd ivy
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hi yo

rain patio
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Has anyone gotten regex for zon OA? It’s in my practice test

rain swan
livid yew
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regex is pretty chill

chilly burrow
rain patio
arctic pine
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I saw on blind google is cancelling some ppls interviews, also heard from friend at msft that there's potential hiring freeze...

hollow heart
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heard goog won’t have any new grad postings?

chilly burrow
hollow heart
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what the fuck

jaunty basalt
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U working really hard rn, take it easy make sure u take a break

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Give your phone some time to rest

lunar hatch
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How long is the turnaround time for quora

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After codesignal

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Well this has been my third time doing this

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Once every year

jaunty basalt
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Load up cs

gilded dust
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Do u guys think a new grad return offer can be cancelled

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In this economy 😭

chilly burrow
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It's already happened to a friend of mine

gilded dust
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Which company?

chilly burrow
gilded dust
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😭😭

frank wedge
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Shopify, coinbase, twitter

chilly burrow
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Also Coinbase, Loom, and Twitter canceled returns

gilded dust
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I guess I have to grind for new grad again 😮‍💨

vague furnace
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Gfs best friend is at Meta and said theyre only giving offers thru a TopDown approach. So only offers to top intern performers.

frank wedge
buoyant herald
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So basically during my internship I led to a 2 billion increase in revenue by changing the button order in our internal dashboard

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I couldn't do it without the motivation from seeing my peers do so poorly during their internship

tacit grove
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Is microsoft out yet?

cyan heath
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Hello does anyone know that if I didn’t accept the Amazon new grad offer within 14 days and if I had to go back to accepting it. Can it be done ? Thanks

fickle stump
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idk ask asp

vital meteor
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You could get unlucky and they dont offer you though

cyan heath
sick trellis
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Where do you all look for software roles? (Other than the github page)

grizzled bronze
vague furnace
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nah, i think more roles will open after Jan 2023. but until then, i dont think there will be many postings.

marsh coyote
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Bruh I cannot wait till Jan 2023

split plaza
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Wait what

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It’s still pretty early isn’t it

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most postings drop August/September I’m pretty sure

lament summit
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just did palantir karat
got 2/3 then half way through 3
should i redo

frigid ember
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so you’re probably chilling

sharp plume
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How is the build dependency graph oa for palantir (like lc med level? hard level?)

frigid ember
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chances are they’ll move you onto on-site

twilit heart
# chilly burrow Shopify

Well that doesn't fill me with confidence lol. Havent heard of anyone here getting their return offers rescinded up to this point..

lament summit
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did u do it twice

supple grove
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Then rejected🥲

buoyant herald
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If we can land a job we'll be securing our stock compensation for the cheap

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2022 grads equity compensation hella depreciated

frigid ember
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i used my redo because my power went out during my first interview

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lol

lament summit
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o LMAO

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should i redo mines?

frigid ember
lament summit
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like the 2q

frigid ember
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yeah

lament summit
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wym by 100%

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like get all test cases?

frigid ember
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like do you feel confident that you solved them fully

lament summit
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yes

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and 50% of q3

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i was stuck on q2 for 15 minutes cause i didnt realize i overwrote a variable

frigid ember
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then don’t redo you’ll probably move onto phone interview

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or on-site

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i forget what’s next

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probably phone if you haven’t done it yet

lament summit
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hm okay

lament summit
frigid ember
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doubt it

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i think they only look at whether or not you solved the questions

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unless something has changed this year 2/3 should be fine

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3rd question is LC hard i think too

lament summit
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i got thru half way

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i was speed running

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LOL

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talking like

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aksljdflkjaskdlfjasd

frigid ember
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hahaha you’re good probably

sharp plume
stone fossil
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if anyones done quora technical phone

lament summit
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after karat

frigid ember
lament summit
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i think i skipped that

lament summit
sharp plume
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I applied to forward deployed se specifically

frigid ember
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yeah some applications go straight to karat

lament summit
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i heard FDSE is 60+ hrs

sharp plume
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dang I thought the work sounded interesting

lament summit
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i applied to that originally

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but i switched

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after speaking to a palantir engineer

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LOL

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also i got referred

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so i skipped straight to phone

sharp plume
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Ah that makes sense

sudden sequoia
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what does forward deployed even mean

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for palantir

dire yarrow
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You talk to clients

lament summit
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basically ur a consultant and a software engineer combined

shut crescent
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do you guys think its a good idea to do part time as a data engineer (remote) for senior year and then transition into the same company after graduating? or should i try to find more internships instead of part time? The part time role is going to pay $36-40 and then full time i think is $60+

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i was also wondering if anyone else has received this type of offer before graduating before

topaz elk
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not sure but uhh

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i think i just bombed akuna python phone screen

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😭

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better luck next time

lament summit
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akuna matada?

topaz elk
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lOL

azure zephyr
earnest crescent
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Hey all, I have a onsite with Audible in a few days. Any tips from someone who has interviewed recently?

dusky plover
hollow heart
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bruh did anyone get the neeva first steps email

topaz elk
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Someone posted the questions
P much

hollow heart
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they want you to make a whole ass project in a week and do unit tests documentation, and if they like your project, you can get an interview

tiny fiber
ocean hinge
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Has anyone given the amazon NG interview yet?

topaz elk
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Idk I had perfect score

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I heard some people didn't pass even with perfect score so either there are hidden cases or filtered by resume screen since OA is auto

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I hear the bar for cpp OA on mc is really low

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I low-key griefed that OA

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Just Lowkey tho

dire yarrow
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I'll become one in a few months chad

rain patio
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can i use stories not related to school or relevant work experience to demonstrate amazon LPs?

primal pike
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is amazon sde 1 harder than intern

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process

main condor
livid yew
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I mean the actual work you do as SDE1 vs Intern is probably harder/more-involved

nocturne oriole
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Having a well scoped problem with dedicated mentor alleviates the concerns and stress of intern

livid yew
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I mean the ramp up phase, is like what 1-2 months?

nocturne oriole
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Full time you have high standards placed on you but yeah a healthy place will give u ramp up sure

livid yew
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then you are expected to do production work, and submit deliverables at 2-3 months

nocturne oriole
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Even at big tech i feel interns who are stressed get self pressured into it

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For external reasons

livid yew
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I mean if they give you the exact guidelines for implementation, what fun would there be in SWE?

nocturne oriole
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I end up asking for help anyway

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Im dumb af

livid yew
bleak raven
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they ghosting me 😭

acoustic berry
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Applied June 25th got OA July 18

bleak raven
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oop

bleak raven
acoustic berry
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Yeah it ended up being 7 from OA to final

bleak raven
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oh cuz u actually took it later

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damn

azure zephyr
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has anyone here taken the amazon final yet?

dusty basin
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idk. im doing p well

primal pike
dire yarrow
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This guy KEKW

dusty basin
dire yarrow
novel tide
acoustic berry
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2 days for them to reach out to schedule and then 2 days for the time confirmation

novel tide
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nice ty for all the info

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very appreciated

acoustic berry
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Np good luck

buoyant herald
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low key I prefer a 2x60 to a 1x30

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1x30 is like getting 2 questions on a final exam

primal pike
buoyant herald
primal pike
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aka basically an offer

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yea x30 is like the dream

buoyant herald
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What do they base their decision making on when choosing who to give 1x30 to lol

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Cope cope cope cope

shrewd ivy
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does amazon referral does anything lol?

primal pike
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rng

primal pike
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oa2 usually gets ur ass

buoyant herald
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I speedran that shit

azure zephyr
vast mica
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Hey, Are you all applying from the Github list ? Is it fully updated ? or applying from elsewhere?

buoyant herald
eager moth
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Hi guys which do you prefer.

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the left or right...

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seeing on the glassdoor

pastel bane
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am i the only one who likes to swear when doing OAs?

pliant crystal
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any tips or hint on question for virtu oa

primal pike
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anyone else got reached out by a C1 recruiter?

dusty halo
junior forum
shrewd ivy
rain patio
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what are follow up questions like for amazon LPs? Do they ask you to give more detailed information of the situation to make sure you are not lying? or do they ask a question that wants you to demonstrate another LP in that same situation?

vapid monolith
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How do you handle a question you've seen before and clearly recollect when asked in an interview without tipping off the interviewer?

fickle stump
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you approach it the same way you would for a new question

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you ask clarifying questions, go over test cases, explain approach, code, and see if solution works

sonic coral
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Don’t ever regurgitate solutions but remember the patterns involved

lament frost
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When you're asked to code, don't go fast as fuck tho, try to explain line by line if needed

sonic coral
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Talk through your thought process always

sharp plume
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Me applying for jobs: oh nice let me just do a bunch at once
Me receiving OAs: ;-;

pulsar mural
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Me applying for jobs: oh nice let me just do a bunch at once
Me receiving OAs: ;-;

novel tide
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Me: ;-;
Me: ;-;

frank wedge
ornate sedge
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Anyone done with amazon ng interview?

granite cargo
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Hello…I have recently given amazon new grad OA part 1 and yet to give part 2 which I received on the same day. But today I have received an email saying your part 1 is incomplete and we have extended your deadline…does anyone else faced same issue?

rough ruin
buoyant herald
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Check the oa1 invitation email, it talks about it there. Just guessing but I think that's probably it

rain patio
granite cargo
granite cargo
calm shale
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Hello??

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4-6 WEEKS? WazowskiStare

fickle stump
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(what the fuck)

hollow heart
sonic coral
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Isn’t this the company that made people do mad long take home projects (free labor much?) and then just ghosted most people

hollow heart
jaunty basalt
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Bro that’s an internship in the form of free labor

sonic coral
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Lol search “fuck neeva” in this server KEKW

jaunty basalt
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Bruh Bernie don’t like them either

vital meteor
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Who is neeva

winter loom
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When did neeva open?

hollow heart
dusky plover
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is it better to grind the amazon top questions list with lc preimium or just grind the lc amazon tagged in here

sonic coral
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The amazon explore is good too

split plaza
rain patio
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what's amazon explore?

sonic coral
vast gyro
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can't believe some people advocate for takehomes

verbal sorrel
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Man I fucking hate companies that do projects

sinful tendon
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anyone recently get a mathworks edg offer? curious what kind of salary they’re offering. levels has minimal data

acoustic berry
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120k + 7k bonus

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return offer

sinful tendon
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thanks, same situation for me

acoustic berry
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doesn't include stakeholder yearly bonus info

sinful tendon
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appreciate the info

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did you try to negotiate up?

acoustic berry
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not yet

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waiting on Amazon offer

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Offers are rolling so there are hypothetically more spots now, but it is up to you if you feel ready

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I applied June 25th got OA July 18th

sharp plume
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what's the difficulty of the amazon oa

acoustic berry
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Mine was exceedingly easy

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On OA1

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OA2 who knows

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yeah

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1x30

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Already did it

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super chill just on the OA1

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yeah

sharp plume
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do you need a perfect for oa1 in order to move on?

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I'm really nervous lol

acoustic berry
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I don't think so

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You need a decent enough OA1 to get OA2

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And then OA2 makes most of the difference from there for 1x30 or 2x60 I think

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I did OA2, but I have no idea how well I did except it was good enough for 1x30

sharp plume
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is oa2 the workplace simulator one?

white escarp
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oa2 in amazon is still a mystery 🤣

acoustic berry
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Yeah I went in with no studying or strategy other than LPs

white escarp
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i'm curious who do they grade oa2

acoustic berry
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Yeah it is unclear exactly how to get it. It could maybe be affected by resume, location, etc. as well

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Most of my requests were in Mass because that is where I live

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So not super unconventional, but they did just build a new office here so they might want to fill it up

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The new building is in Boston

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I think it is a replacement for the office that was there already, but I think it is bigger than the old one

bleak raven
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i would do some foul things for the OA 😭😭😭😭

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guess resume not good enough sad_cat

sharp plume
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As long as you pass all test cases you’re set right?

acoustic berry
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I believe so. I wrote a few comments but I had reasonably optimal solutions so I just stopped there

gilded dust
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How long does it take to get oa1 for amazon after applying?

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I applied 5 days ago, crickets 🥹

sharp plume
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oop I just solved it and left, I don’t think mine were too bad time complexity wise

sharp plume
acoustic berry
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It took me around 3 weeks to get OA, but I applied pretty early

gilded dust
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I hope the market recovers 👍

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V shaped recover please

acoustic berry
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Yes V shaped recovery right after we get stock packages 🙏

gilded dust
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Just gimme a job

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🫣

ocean hinge
sharp plume
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I did oa1

dry salmon
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what is Amazon’s new grad interview process like

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How many rounds?

acoustic berry
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2 OAs and then 1x30 minute interview or 2x60 minute interviews

dry salmon
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tysm

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Damn who gets 1x30

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like what’s the criteria

acoustic berry
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Good performance on the OAs and maybe other factors

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No one knows

dry salmon
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damn good job

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If you get 1x30 is that a coding round or LP?

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or both I guess?

hasty birch
acoustic berry
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neither really, it was a review of the coding OA to confirm I wrote the answers. Then it was just the guy talking about his experience for the other 20 minutes

dry salmon
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oh that’s cool

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fr

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I’m shocked they don’t ask you LPs bc I thought that was super important to Amazon

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but ig the people who get it are cracked

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Oh interesting

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So there’s no coding? Or is it a mix

acoustic berry
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OA2 is no coding

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There is some technical ish stuff

dry salmon
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Is OA 1 LC

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Sorry for all of these questions lol

acoustic berry
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OA is 2 LC

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OA1*

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Yeah mine were really easy

dry salmon
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this stuff has probably been discussed so many times in this server im just not active

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ty guys and best of luck to u both

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cute dog btw

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waiting I think

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Want to practice more LC first

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you applied already right?

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i don’t want to delay applying too much, though

ornate sedge
acoustic berry
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2 days

dry salmon
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They move p fast which I like

clever orbit
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what was your cv like?

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if you don't me me asking

acoustic berry
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Like in terms of experience/stats?

clever orbit
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Experience

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Are you american or europe based, I'm assuming the majority of the server is USA BASED?

acoustic berry
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One internship at Mathworks and some decent personal projects

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US

clever orbit
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Cool, thanks for the replies

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DAE if there is an equivalent of this server for UK/EU?

dry salmon
clever orbit
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D:<

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Would have been so useful

dusty basin
dry salmon
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There’s CS career questions reddit

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For Europe

clever orbit
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You probably wouldn't know but I'm assuming again that the leetcode questions would be similar across the board

dry salmon
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I’m p sure

clever orbit
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Yh I already know about that, thanks though.

primal pike
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my internship starts in 15 days

pearl rose
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Got two sigma hackerrank

split plaza
pearl rose
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Nope

split plaza
eager moth
#

May I ask which role it is? NG?

split plaza
#

^ good point actually, is it SWE or quant researcher

jaunty snow
#

anyone else got an email from the c1 recruiter after codesignal?

surreal shuttle
#

every self driving car company needs to do simulations too right?

umbral plover
#

neeva phone

#

and never got the coding project that others are talking about

rain patio
#

based

graceful crown
#

How long after applying did y’all get the amazon OA?

slender apex
#

I applied the 7th. Got OA this Monday

#

Got 15/15 on both so just gotta kill the leadership principles 🫣

clever orbit
#

15/15 on what?

lament summit
#

hey any tips on studying for Palantir sys design?

slender apex
clever orbit
#

What does the test case consist of ?

lament summit
#

yeah

#

to both questions

#

hr phone is just behavoiral

#

but u can fail it

#

so make sure u know ur resume lmao

clever orbit
#

Ahh that makes sense

#

went over my head haha

lament summit
#

HR -> Karat

#

then onsite

#

then hiring manager

#

yeah mines was hr first

#

dev

#

delta is 60+ hrs

#

nty

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isnt that sys design

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lol

#

cant u use sys design principles for tha

#

i honestl;y have no idea what to study anymore

#

LOL

#

after karat

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its just

#

im kinda scared of learning interview

#

no idea what thats gonna b like

#

like should i continue to LC?

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or what

#

LOl

#

ur meta intern?

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ah

#

nope

#

mines was 1*60

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for internship

#

i got return offer

#

yea

#

and unity return offer

#

yep

keen grove
#

amz is rng no?

#

I got lc hard for internship interview last year

lament summit
#

i got lc med

#

yep rng

keen grove
#

awesome

lament summit
#

someone got lc easy

#

sooo

#

yeah

keen grove
#

my friend told me "just don't be a bot" when I was preparing for it

#

RIP

#

🤖

lament summit
#

i didnt hear back from recruiter yet after karat

#

for palantir

#

yesterday

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i tried rescheduling

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and when i clicked on it

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there was a message that said u did good, we will reach out shortly

#

no need to redo

#

didnt hear back tho

#

ohoh

#

why tf is palantir so much harder than meta

#

thats what i want to know

#

what did palantir give u

#

so med

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there was three

#

ohoh

#

mines was

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easy -> med -> hard

azure zephyr
#

did reviewing the top amazon tagged questions help for the OA?

#

lmao welp

ornate sedge
#

One of the comrade here got 1*30

#

Yupp

#

Lp OA is very very unpredictable

lament summit
#

comrade

#

interesting

ornate sedge
#

After filling qualtrics how many days later they give option to schedule for interview

clever orbit
#

wdym by karat?

weary flax
#

Qualtrics app opened up?

#

Did u guys get OAs without referrals?

dense blaze
#

?avatar @jagged ravine

earnest warrenBOT
fallen fox
vital meteor
sinful tendon
#

speed bumps on the road to heaven

ornate sedge
ocean hinge
#

Yep

quartz needle
vital meteor
#

Its RNG why would it matter

primal pike
#

whats the average schedule for 20 hrs week internships

#

4 hrs everyday / 3 full days?

ocean hinge
ornate sedge
vital meteor
fickle stump
#

honestly easier to think you'll get 2*60 and prep rather than worry abt how to get 1*30

formal fable
#

Can someone tell me any good reason why they'd reject you after perfectly good interviews?

surreal estuary
#

hiring freeze

#

💀

formal fable
#

Good reason, but this company didn't indicate any hiring freeze (at least a week ago). I'm talking about Akuna

#

Same goes for this another startup, which I kinda feel I spooked out a bit by being overqualified and expecting too much salary

surreal estuary
#

maybe you didn't do as well as you thought? (no offense)

#

or they had a better candidate that did just as well + has more experience

formal fable
#

Reasonable conclusion, but, the interview was pure coding (and engineering). And while I'm aware of situations where I could misread a bad answer, it's very very unlikely that their average candidate did better than me or had more experience than me, given I've had tons of interviews (both good and bad with the likes of FAANG) over 5 years and I've taken several SWE interviews myself.

sonic coral
#

sometimes the interviewer just doesnt like you man

formal fable
#

So, I was kinda in my zone, giving the interviewer perfectly optimal, production grade clean code in like 15 mins in an interview that was supposed to last like 45 mins

sonic coral
#

bad culture fit or whatever

fading cove
#

akuna isnt on a hiring freeze fwiw

sonic coral
formal fable
# sonic coral bad culture fit or whatever

Yeah, but culture fit would be an issue if that guy were to ask anything behavioral. Just showed up, asked a medium tier question. Got an answer, confirmed it was perfectly good and 3 days later rejection. I kinda think they rejected me due to some GPA or resume screening issue later on

shy yarrow
#

Or they just didn't like you lol, i.e. bad culture fit

fading cove
#

they don't filter on your resume after you get an interview

formal fable
#

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to understand why could they not like me in a coding interview, which I personally felt after giving 100s of these, went very well.

shy yarrow
#

They don't need to ask specific behavioral questions if you don't seem enjoyable to work with

sonic coral
#

ultimately its a subjective choice from the interviewer

#

its like asking why someone doesnt want to be friends with you

formal fable
#

IDK, maybe I'm ranting. Similar thing happened with another startup a month ago and I was dumbfounded

formal fable
formal fable
#

I guess the reason I'm bringing this up here is to avoid some unknown issue in future interview. Usually if it's just a bad technical round, it means I gotta study harder. Here, I honestly don't know.

sonic coral
#

you win some lose some man, it happens, i thought i did really well on de shaw and got rejected at the absolute last stage

umbral plover
vital meteor
#

Do you have BDE?

formal fable
#

DE Shaw rejects with a very strong pattern. This might not apply to you, but they lust for GPA. I;ve observed this with their internships and full-time applications across multiple candidates (me and my friends)

umbral plover
#

u gotta vibe with the interviewer

sonic coral
#

i literally made it to the step where they would've asked for references/code samples

#

reject right before there

#

anyways my point is that sometimes even if everything goes well you can still get rejected, it happens

formal fable
# umbral plover how are your communication skills? they are not looking for robots who can spit ...

I worked for 2 years as a Senior SWE, and a good chunk of that involved interacting with clients at this large ($1B+ revenue annually) insurance company in the US and some potential businesses, not just technical stuff, but kinda like convincing them early on to try out a collaborative effort with the platform, and helping non technical folks understand why things can or cannot be done. I figured that kind of experience would be enough to be lucid in a coding interview. Apparently not.

#

But maybe it's just bad luck. I just want an early offer cause as an international student, with all this recession talk, I'd rather not cut it too close to the graduation deadline

sonic coral
#

maybe try mocks to get feedback?

bronze nymph
#

fwiw I don't think it's ever worth over thinking these situations

#

your perception of perfect is most likely not perfect and even if you were, it could have been 20 other reasons

sonic coral
#

sometimes interviewers have shit going on in their lives too and they judge you differently

formal fable
#

Haha, I've seen that. I remember this one interviewer, who I thought was convinced to take out his frustration on me, cause not only did he ask me an absurdly hard math problem for an SWE role, but also probed me every 10 seconds, literally taunting me that "cmon, other candidates were already done with this by now". Somehow, ended up getting an offer on that interview. 😆

sinful tendon
#

sometimes it just be like that

#

one failure isn’t indicative of much of anything

frank wedge
#

Wish I kept my insurances up until start date lmaoFacepalm

formal fable
frank wedge
# formal fable wdym?

Watching other companies in your sector rescind offers or have hiring freezes while you’re waiting for your start date

grizzled bronze
#

It's also possible they had identified a candidate and were only interviewing more candidates due to policy requirements, impossible to know

formal fable
# grizzled bronze Could be a good number of reasons including behavioral/culture fit, it's not wor...

There's no better way that I know to state my intuition based on my personal experience in coding interviews and benchmarking the same against the difficulty noticed on big name companies (maybe you can rephrase it for me, as I tried to communicate my experience). Besides, like I said, all we talked about was the problem, the solution and the usual stuff like optimality, complexity and edge cases. I'd be more hesitant to make such a conclusion had I been just starting out or had no context of a good and a bad coding interview round. Like I said, I've had them and taken them, and this one seemed perfectly fine.

#

Yeah, MS CS

#

Yeah, got bored of SWE, thought I'd diversify in ML and Data Science

inner prawn
#

There was a better candidate than you, believe it or not. Quant firms are extremely competitive, all the way up to the final. They probably solved it in 10 minutes, or maybe they had better experience, or maybe they were better communicator. No point in dwelling on it now

vestal pelican
#

Anyone heard back from Jane Street yet?

#

It's been now 9 days and still haven't heard back

#

Yes, how did it take?

formal fable
inner prawn
#

That doesn’t seem like a good idea

fallen fox
inner prawn
#

Probably annoys them

vestal pelican
#

When did u apply?

#

Maybe that's why Jane Street isn't reviewing applications now lol^^

frank wedge
vestal pelican
formal fable
#

Better question is, has anyone with less than 3.7 GPA gotten an interview.

vestal pelican
#

I have a 3.36 now. 😢

inner prawn
#

For experienced?? Probably

formal fable
#

Same boat mate

#

They got like 100 spots and 1000s of applicants. I guess they can afford to be very picky... Too bad that means no reasonable shot

inner prawn
#

I don’t think their resume screening is that bad, I think the interview process is where ppl get slaughtered

vestal pelican
#

The previous 2 years gotten rejected from JS in 4 business days sharp lol

inner prawn
#

Do you guys mean on the resume?

rain patio
#

U need a 5.0 gpa for JS

formal fable
#

I guess I'm confusing Jane Street for HRT or something, but I remember one of those specifically asking for GPA range (mandatory) on their applications

inner prawn
#

Yeah you only need to submit resume for Jane street

formal fable
#

Also, they ask your university as well, so I'm certain that factors in

fickle stump
#

google asks for gpasmugkirby

formal fable
#

Yeah, but google is interviewing me rn, so I guess they don't mind 3.33

vestal pelican
frank wedge
#

They do, but they don’t care

vestal pelican
#

I doubt they look at it tho

rain patio
inner prawn
#

Unless you have a 1.0 gpa they don’t care

frank wedge
#

People < 3.0 have interviewed with them

formal fable
#

There is, and after a week of radio silence, I thought I'd fallen prey to it. But I think freeze is on new grads mostly

rain patio
#

Yeh

formal fable
#

They just contacted me today to move to next round

rain patio
#

But even for intern I’m being ghosted by my recruiter

vestal pelican
#

I got a D in numerical methods (went pass/faill) and got still google lol

formal fable
#

I try to be reasonable with my chances and search with filters on my university name and Jane Street on LinkedIn. I gotta say, maybe 1 in 50 results was relevant. Can't find a connect for a referral. Same goes for HRT

#

They all filled up with Harvards and Stanfords

inner prawn
#

Good thing there are more companies than Jane Street and HRT out there

formal fable
formal fable
#

I couldn't get an OA with them, but I don't remember for which role exactly (I've been applying a lot). I did remember getting an OA from them last year for their internship, which I thought went well, only to be rejected next week

#

The job market is kinda bleak, seemingly

#

Any mid-sized firms you know that are actively hiring?

#

OMG! C3.ai, that was the other company that I thought I nailed all 3 rounds. Like the final interviewer was vibing so hard and there were moments I'd give them even extra answers than what they'd expect (including the system design round). I was legit never more confident I'd get an offer, cause the interviews were smooth like butter. But then 2 days later, rejection.

I guessed that I made the mistake of questioning them too much about the AI/ML involvement in the Solutions Engineer role and that my compensation ask kinda spooked them out

#

The first interviewer basically told me that "we offer good pay, but not as good as a Google or something"

#

I kinda feel stuck in this weird place, where they feel hesitant offering me a new grad position cause they think I'd leave them soon or expect an early promotion, and not experienced or practiced enough to be offered a senior role (international xp doesnt count). Kinda opposite of goldilocks zone

#

No no, it was the final round. They told me that.

#

As in, the final technical round, the next would've been HR or whatever. It was system design

#

I often do not get phone screen or OAs. 3 companies have skipped that round for me

#

I did not apply to C3.ai either, one of their Tech Leads reached out to me on LinkedIn. So you can imagine why I was feeling rather... confident

#

Google did phone screen though, right?

#

Yeah, I've applied to google before. Same, they didn't give me OA. The phone round is their OA. When I say OA/phone, I mean the screening round, before the onsite day where you get 3-4 rounds.

#

I did not ask for comp, cause that's usually not taken well. But they did ask me my comp expectations and I try to beat around the bush, but often end up giving them an estimate

#

I don't, but keep in mind, I'm still early, I got some xp and I've led projects with 4-5 engineers working under me, so my asks are a bit ambitious

#

I usually tell them that do not have an estimate, and it will likely change as we approach an offer, but min base $170k and total upwards of $220k

#

I feel if I start high, they'd at least negotiate down to something reasonable, but so far, no luck

#

I actually want more, but I gotta get an offer first, and then build up

#

Yeah... IDK. Something about $150k base seems wrong given a lot of new grads get that. They don't seem to scale up base with xp very well

inner prawn
#

“A lot of new grads” are not getting 150k base…

formal fable
#

Also, as in international, my xp doesn't count as well as someone local

formal fable
bleak relic
#

Did anyone hear back after VMWare OA

frank wedge
#

Netflix and Brex

formal fable
#

Some organized scam this is, propping up futures as compensation

vital meteor
#

My GPA is shit and I passed the HC

fickle stump
#

well ye but they still asksmugkirby

vital meteor
#

Specifically they asked for transcript not GPA atleast in my case

#

And it's just to check if you actually grad lol

dusty basin
#

Yeah they don’t ask for gpa specifically iirc

graceful crown
#

Did anyone take cisco meraki OA?

#

I received 2nd one after completing first

#

Do they normally have two OAs?

exotic oracle
graceful crown
#

First was on 20th

#

Right after i applied

#

And the second was today

#

After I completed first yesterday

graceful crown
#

Mine is for full stack engineer

rain patio
#

I have not received an update since I did it

clever orbit
#

what month do americans graduate University?

#

/ When does the application cycle being for Americnas

frigid ember
#

app cycle begins in july

clever orbit
#

July of previous year?

frigid ember
#

yeah

clever orbit
#

Thanks

frigid ember
#

there’s a question on there asking about former employee name and email, just skip it since i’m not former

#

also if you make it to phone interview stage DM me

clever orbit
#

Are you already working at palantir or starting soon?

#

I thought you were still to graduate ?

#

Also could someone from US refer someone from UK?

frigid ember
#

graduated 2022

frigid ember
umbral plover
#

ayoo 1x30 amazon final

frigid ember
umbral plover
#

hahah we’ll see

bleak relic
#

Is the cisco meraki only for full stack or do they have other options too?

umbral plover
bleak relic
#

Ah I see

valid fable
umbral plover
#

3 days

exotic oracle
valid fable
#

anyone else get a "final round coming soon" email from amazon after they did oa2?

valid fable
#

Like a day after

#

It didn’t say which interview I have

sharp plume
#

Oh ok

umbral plover
#

yup

#

easy/medium

severe siren
#

Anyone Got amazon newGrad 2023 OA or is it not started yet?

restive halo
#

I’d say 2 easies on OA1 for me - I solved question 1 with 1 line of python code and question 2 with about 6 lines

sharp plume
#

Ikr it took me 10 min

umbral plover
#

ya i finished the oa in like 15 mins

sharp plume
#

I feel like the interview will be brutal to compensate tho

restive halo
#

I lucked out with a 1x30

umbral plover
#

no i chose toronto or vancouver

restive halo
#

I think I listed my top 3 preferences at DC, Boston, and Atlanta bc I’m on the east coast

winter loom
#

Has anyone chosen one of the bigger offices and gotten a 1x30?

novel tide
#

if so glad to hear they allow location choices

#

for some reason i thought theyd just be like "go to seattle"

fossil basin
#

I only put NYC on my amazon new grad app

#

wish I could change to add other options lol

novel tide
#

im sure you can talk to a recruiter and switch when interviewing

fossil basin
#

it wouldn't change me getting an OA right

#

I have referall too for what its worth

novel tide
jaunty basalt
#

U don’t get a human

fossil basin
novel tide
#

..final?

jaunty basalt
#

I got offer for 2022 and never had a recruiter

novel tide
#

yeah ig it is basically fully automated

fossil basin
#

you guys think stuff is gonna open like 8/1 on the nose

jaunty basalt
#

ye they no gib hooman

young merlin
#

Amazon apps are open early asf

novel tide
#

if you email you'll get an actual response but it doesn't seem dedicated

#

it's rolling i think

#

dont doubt urself

#

u win these

young merlin
#

Im waiting for google new grad openings

#

Any idea when?

#

Im guessing august

ornate sedge
#

After oa2

fossil basin
#

get referred first

#

then it'll send you a link to apply

fickle stump
#

anyone used pramp?

rain patio
#

pramp? You have 6 free interviews, then unlimited after you refer a number of people (I think 4)

#

it might also have some services you need to pay for

fickle stump
#

how was it? was it useful?

#

helpful*

rain patio
#

i did 4 interviews and saw 1 question twice. I just assumed that they did not have a lot of questions, so I switched to doing mocks on LC with a friend

forest hatch
umbral plover
#

ya

forest hatch
#

@umbral plover when did you apply and get oa

umbral plover
#

got oa 3 days ago and applied like at the beginning of july

cedar zodiac
#

Qualtrics apps just opened

sharp plume
#

What are the 2x60 Amazon interviews like

lament summit
#

thinking of purchasing systemsexpert

#

and doing mock sysdesign interviews

#

but not sure how to prep for learning interview

frigid ember
#

lol don’t

#

just read system design primer

weary flax
buoyant herald
#

Was thinking the same thing, is there a leetcode for system design?

frigid ember
#

and watch some system design interviews

lament summit
#

hmm okay

#

how about the learning interview

frigid ember
#

it’s similar to stuff you’d see on youtube

#

that one you can’t prep for

lament summit
#

o

frigid ember
#

it’s kinda random

lament summit
#

i gotta worry about caching, load balancers and that kind of stuff?

#

round robin, slave etc?

frigid ember
#

uhh yeah at a high level, idk about round robin and whatever slave is lol

lament summit
#

for load balancing

frigid ember
#

but yes caching, load balancing

lament summit
#

round robin is how to choose which to route to

frigid ember
#

it’s not super low level

cedar zodiac
frigid ember
lament summit
#

how about final

#

is it just behav

buoyant herald
frigid ember
#

along with behavioral

lament summit
#

so its either gonna be another learning or sys desing?

frigid ember
#

yeah

#

unless you do amazing on both

lament summit
#

if u ace is it just behav then

frigid ember
#

yeah but most ppl don’t ace

lament summit
#

ohoh

#

what was ur final round like

#

but no more LC right

frigid ember
#

those 2 plus technical

#

they dropped the technical round this year

lament summit
#

yay

frigid ember
#

bc they figured karat was good enough

lament summit
#

whew

frigid ember
#

u got moved to on-site?

lament summit
#

yessirrr

frigid ember
#

told u 2/3 was good

lament summit
#

still have yet to hear from recruiter yet tho

#

i tried rescheduling

#

but a msg popped up saying i did good enough

#

lol

frigid ember
#

lol shoulda just taken my word for it

lament summit
#

shoulda

#

my question is

#

why tf

frigid ember
#

glad it worked out though

lament summit
#

is the intern process and ft

#

identical

#

makes no sense

frigid ember
#

uhh

#

probably

#

idk

lament summit
#

ur in nyc right

frigid ember
#

yep

lament summit
#

delta or dev

frigid ember
#

dev

lament summit
#

u like it?

frigid ember
#

yep

#

it’s nice wlb

umbral plover
#

yes

lament summit
#

its v diff from big tech right

#

ive worked at amazon and unity

#

very different from them?

frigid ember
#

got a meeting hold up

lament summit
#

k

frigid ember
frigid ember
#

lots of very smart and charismatic people here

umbral plover
#

i just took a read of the LPs before i did OA2, i'd say a lot of the stuff is common sense with regards to how to be a good leader

lament summit
#

lowkey amazon gives me snake vibes

#

everyones a snake

vital meteor
sudden lily
#

got resume rejected from Jane street with 3 big N internshipsWazowskiStare WazowskiStare WazowskiStare WazowskiStare WazowskiStare WazowskiStare

#

Last week

#

Amazon, apple, tesla

#

No idea lol

#

Yeah probably, I have no experience with that I was mainly doing infra work

fleet kiln
#

do any of you cold call recruiters

#

in addition to cold emailing

modern socket
#

how long is it taking for y’all to get the OA after applying?

#

applied a few days ago and am just hoping to hear back asap

umbral plover
#

got imc oa

sage sluice
#

are you just full time applying and leetcoding to other places at this point

fleet kiln
#

But yeah applying

#

Hoping to get rentech radix js or any trading firm actually

#

But big tech is backup

#

But half the time applying never works so have to email

#

So was considering calling to but idk if that's a good idea

sage sluice
#

damn

#

yeah idk

vital meteor
#

You email your application

#

Its phone then onsite I believe

fleet kiln
#

Or smt else

vital meteor
#

Yea technical

lilac siren
#

Has anyone interviewed with Akuna C++ junior yet? Are they still asking questions like class implementation without STL?

marble bronze
#

I guess you could say your solution

Wasn't based off of your intuition

covert pecan
#

When will 2023 grad posting channel open up

lunar hatch
#

For research infra specifically

rain patio
#

Has anyone gotten past Goldman Sachs OA?

fast marsh
#

yo anyone getting hella rejections?

#

citadel and JS don’t like me 😦

#

got citadel OA last year but not this time it seems? hm

vital meteor
#

Not sure what to do I think I'll just grind lc and apply again next year I only want js

gilded dust
#

Maybe u made a mistake filling out app

#

Linkedin wlb is 🔥

ornate sedge
#

Anyone got futher after oa with citadel

bleak raven
#

🐍

grizzled bronze
#

Means you're getting an offer thanospog

#

How much experience?