canada

[steel escarp]

me regret now

[untold nebula]

Basically everyone on my team is working remote

They went in like once after covid recently for an in person event

[placid dawn]

guys buy shibacoin

[untold nebula]

saj

[steel escarp]

we coulda been friends

❤️

[untold nebula]

We can still be frands

[analog current]

brothers i need 120k+ ng to support the family

going into third year

currently doing software dev internship at my uni

tips?

[dark portal]

Get drunk at work, and send apps to as many places as possible

And do interviews hungover

That's what worked for me

That's how I got ibm

[tight gale]

Have your resume checked here

Spam apply everywhere

[untold nebula]

Yep that's pretty much it.
Make good resume.
Apply everywhere.
Start prepping for interviews as early as possible

120k is on the higher end so you'll probably be looking at companies who ask leetcode questions

[placid dawn]

what position did u work at

whats interview like

[dark portal]

Software Developer Intern

Node, React, etc

[dark portal]

Easy. It was one of those behavioural and verbal technical questions

[storm stream]

post resume

[novel dome]

what were the technical questions like

cuz i got reschedules for next week 💀

[dark portal]

Easy

It was about the technologies

Also show a willingness to learn

You'll be goof

Good*

[analog current]

i have an interview with a startup on monday for fall, im hoping something comes out of it

[storm stream]

bullet points could use some tlc

[storm stream]

for the lab:

• you don't "shrink" time, you "reduce"
• 1000% is a big figure out of context, maybe describe "from X to Y"
• what is the purpose of the REST APIs?
• "intuitive user interface" is subjective, drop "intuitive"

for the instructor:

• 10+ members? and 3 leaders? Leaders of what? Members of what? Why is this bolded?
• instead of listing in brackets, put a colon ":" and list those topics
• bold "python"

...the rest:

• use a darker grey color... this one is too light
• minor detail but fix the gap between each header and the line

oh and put Skills at the bottom

and reduce header/footer margins for more uniform lewk

And the rest is nice... Have fun at Jane Street

[analog current]

@storm stream i love u

[fickle juniper]

Isn’t this kind of lateral? I think u could go for FAANG+ if u alr have 5 internships

[novel dome]

bet

[tawny zephyr]

if anyone has a list of companies to cold email for summer 2023 lmk

[untold nebula]

Are you looking for a list of emails or companies?

For companies just look them up on LinkedIn or any job site

[calm elm]

Anyone know roughly when Canada ft 2023 starts hiring

[storm stream]

[e-mail]

[tawny zephyr]

emails and companies

emails preferrably less work for me

[tawny zephyr]

whos email even is that

[storm stream]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-jobs-thinking-serious-gif-12476291

[frozen umbra]

Like July-Aug, youll see some postings

[tawny zephyr]

sheeeesh

[fickle juniper]

Where did u get this picture of my protege

I wonder what happened to him, imo he was pretty wacky with crazy ideas, probably didn’t amount to much

[fluid surge]

@untold nebula CONGRATS. thats a 'cracked' internship 🙂

[untold nebula]

Thanks

[novel dome]

Does anyone have a list for winter 2023 internships?

[zenith eagle]

how the fuck does loo get priority apply?

cuz co-op technically pays the companies and they also get a tax break?

[novel dome]

loo rep just better

[vivid fiber]

Companies post internally on loo

[zenith eagle]

yeah but why?

[vivid fiber]

^

[zenith eagle]

why not other coop unis?

[vivid fiber]

Becuz they're not loo

[zenith eagle]

tru loo rep better but why loo specifcally? why not like mit or other us based ones or canada ones

what voodoo did loo do to get this privilege i feel like shit not accepting loo coop offer

[vivid fiber]

Mit prob also get priority apply

[oblique crater]

well of course they hire from MIT but coop in the US isn’t as prevalent

[vivid fiber]

Loo just has a good reputation

That's basically it

[zenith eagle]

from what i hear coop pays companies but also big tax break for companies as well

[vivid fiber]

I'm not sure if that's true for US companies recruiting Canadians though 🤔

I know that Canadian companies get tax breaks when hiring Canadian interns

But idk if it works for US hiring Canadians

[oblique crater]

in canada they have to be under a certain employment program to get half of an interns wage paid by the government but then they can only hire pr/citizens

[zenith eagle]

man i should have taken loo offer even when i couldn't afford it then feels like it now

[untold nebula]

Coop isn't only at loo. Hiring from any uni with coop in Canada gets you tax breaks

[oblique crater]

nah you can still land plenty of things outside loo

[untold nebula]

^

Just have to work a bit harder ; )

[fickle juniper]

There’s definitely an advantage for being at loo, but also u can only take one offer anyway

[zenith eagle]

kinda feels like i'm paying the price tho

oh well it's in the past but ngl it still sometimes stings

should have taken a loan or something

[vivid fiber]

Like others have said it's def possible

[novel dome]

diff top uni get privlege

[vivid fiber]

I didn't get into loo, and I got a decent internship

[novel dome]

but if u put in work u can land anything

[vivid fiber]

Also after one good internship getting interviews is much easier

[zenith eagle]

i mean i'm not exactly at a bad place rn but

first couple of ones were a grind tho

[vivid fiber]

Same

It's the same for loo kids too tbg

*tbh

Most don't get anything good the first few coops afaik

[untold nebula]

Ye they get qa or something

[zenith eagle]

tbh this shit just seems rng i mean i already knew that esp with loo admissions rng rip cs rip se got math coop but like man all my uni career has been more applying than school and it really opened my eyes on how much rng matters

[vivid fiber]

You also have to consider they do an extra year, and thus have more time to actually do internships

[vivid fiber]

Everything is rng

Everything is a combo of luck + skill

[untold nebula]

Exactly

[fickle juniper]

So much rng

[zenith eagle]

gotta make ritual sacrifice to the rng gods everyday

[vivid fiber]

I've seen smarter ppl than me not get interviews

[tight gale]

Nah dont feel bad, you can succeed in any university in Canada

[fickle juniper]

I’m convinced it’s like 80% rng

[vivid fiber]

And I've seen people dumber than me do better

[novel dome]

99% rng

[vivid fiber]

Imo, the more skilled you get the less that number goes down

[tight gale]

I went to a no name school and I got interviews from A and G

[zenith eagle]

i mean i know that i'm not exactly failing rn but first couple of times it was just treading to stay afloat

[untold nebula]

Did you guys get any decent interviews for fall? I literally got nothing, just curious if others had same experience

[vivid fiber]

Again, even loo kids don't start off with FAANG

[fickle juniper]

I’m pretty sure that’s the same for loo kids

[zenith eagle]

i should be happy with what i have but sometimes you have those moments

[vivid fiber]

I got 3 good interviews

[fickle juniper]

I keep failing my interviews but yes

[untold nebula]

Maybe cause of recession?

[zenith eagle]

oh no i mean like i reached out to recruiters and they told me they only take loo kids for off season

thats why it stings

[vivid fiber]

Idk 🤷‍♂️

[novel dome]

i didnt apply to that many but i managed to get big bank interview

which i bombed hella hard

[zenith eagle]

did anyone hear back from ripple?

[untold nebula]

Bad rng for me then lol

[vivid fiber]

I got phone

I applied a week ago or smth

[fickle juniper]

I think there are less positions this fall because of cancelled postings and offers spilling from summer

[vivid fiber]

Maybe 2 weeks

[zenith eagle]

how was it? i forgot to apply and now the posting is gone

fuck

@vivid fiber are you doing school and work fall?

[fickle juniper]

What is ripple

[untold nebula]

Damn, anything you could share to prepare better?

[zenith eagle]

wiat is zon even opening fall?

[vivid fiber]

Idk

[fickle juniper]

For Canada, no

[vivid fiber]

Some crypto company

[zenith eagle]

wtf

[vivid fiber]

They pay well tho

[zenith eagle]

why

[vivid fiber]

🤷‍♂️

[zenith eagle]

i'm curious about ripple but rip didn't send in app on time

[fickle juniper]

Apparently not enough teams asked for it to justify a posting

[zenith eagle]

man applying takes so much fucking time i stg

[tight gale]

Ripple as in xrp?

[fickle juniper]

So they extended offers to ppl who rejected from summer

[zenith eagle]

cant' depend on extensions cuz they mess it up

[fickle juniper]

And that must’ve filled it up

[vivid fiber]

Ye

[zenith eagle]

i hate the slog of opening app typing shit out attaching resume

[vivid fiber]

Rlly, I just autofill

[zenith eagle]

what's worse is when companies ask for extra shit like scholarship app questions: We’d like to hear your reflection on a recent challenging and/or particularly creative project you’ve completed—feel free to either expand on the project mentioned above or talk about a different one. In particular, we'd like you to discuss the purpose and functionality of the project (if different from above), how it demonstrates creativity, and any challenges faced/solutions found.

[zenith eagle]

what extension?

[vivid fiber]

Just the built in autofill works fine for me

[zenith eagle]

i think i got burnt out spamming work day apps at the start of app season so

[vivid fiber]

Thats fair

[zenith eagle]

i just saved the posting and when i got time i opened it and it's gone rip

[vivid fiber]

I def felt that this summer

[fickle juniper]

Oh I just bs something in like 30seconds

Pretty sure these qs are not that important

[zenith eagle]

i feel like a clown for spending so much time on them with thoughtful answers and then my friend says some stupid shit and gets interview

looking at u wealthsimple

rng gods hate me

[fickle juniper]

Dude Shopify for example,

[novel dome]

shopify doin much

[fickle juniper]

When I looked at my db for the intern project

[zenith eagle]

shopify is rng stupid

[fickle juniper]

They never touched it

[zenith eagle]

yeah same

[novel dome]

but gotta aim for shopify next summer

[zenith eagle]

i think i only got in cuz u spammed every recruiter with emails and pinged them like 3 times with a week interval

[fickle juniper]

How bad is it I didn’t get thru all three levels or whatever for Shopify interview do u think

[zenith eagle]

just to have them look at my resime

3 levels?

oh u mean resume screen as well?

[fickle juniper]

My technical had stages

No my final round

[zenith eagle]

wait didn't u have a prod eng interview lined up:

[fickle juniper]

Had like 3 levels

[zenith eagle]

oh dw

[novel dome]

how important is their project for shopify?

[fickle juniper]

Yeah I did it yeserrday

[fickle juniper]

Not at all I think

[zenith eagle]

i didn't make the final part but i spent a lot of time communicating cacking jokes and vibing

my 2nd fave interviewing exp

[novel dome]

thats a vibe

[fickle juniper]

Okay sick I vibed really well

[zenith eagle]

defo try crack jokes to diffuse the tension

and vibe

most of the time if the interviewer is not like a asshole they'll like it

[novel dome]

its hard when the interview is some stiff mf

[zenith eagle]

like hitting on a girl but for interviewers to try and get job

[fickle juniper]

My Coinbase interviewer

[zenith eagle]

yeah i had one with this no name company on friday for min wage

took it cuz itnerview warm up

[novel dome]

damn

[zenith eagle]

fuck that was a disaster

i think he city-profiled me like he asked where i was from i said toronto he said toronto toronto? i said yeah toronot proper - scarborough, and then he behaviour turned cold and stiff

[fickle juniper]

Good to shake off rust

[zenith eagle]

"i'm from kitchkener waterloo i'm better than u scarborough scum"

[fickle juniper]

Damn

[novel dome]

thats my plan for future

apply to shit companies

[zenith eagle]

was jokes but still

[novel dome]

to remove bad interview energy

[zenith eagle]

yeah defo go for it

[fickle juniper]

Haha it’s almost guaranteed ull run into some bad interviewers tho

[zenith eagle]

i should honestly start to take a couple of shots before interviews esp if it's not technical

[fickle juniper]

Assuming u do a bunch

[novel dome]

as long as its not the ones i care abt

life good

[zenith eagle]

cuz i get so worked up and anxious

[fickle juniper]

Ye gotta just pray to the rng gods

[novel dome]

ye ye

gonna start prayin to daddy bezos

[zenith eagle]

@novel dome are u form cu?

eeeyyy

[novel dome]

oui

u too

nice nice

[zenith eagle]

never stepped foot on campus even though i was in ottawa for 8 months but nice to meet cu mans

what year r u?

[novel dome]

going into 3rd

but i still havent finished 2nd year courses

[zenith eagle]

ah i'm like 3.5

bit messy cuz i'm a transfer

[novel dome]

where u transfer from?

[novel dome]

almost done with the shit hole

[zenith eagle]

uoft - started in 2018 transferred fall 2020 cuz friend took their own life :x

i'm over it now but man

[vivid fiber]

I h8 Shopify's process so much. They should just do resume screen first, and then project screen.

[zenith eagle]

i was a disaster back then

[zenith eagle]

i told u man spamming recuiters 🎆

u gotta be a nagging bitch

[novel dome]

sry to hear that

[vivid fiber]

Tru

[fickle juniper]

Yup lol, the only reason I even applied for fall was cuz the project was almost the exact same

And for prod eng

[vivid fiber]

That's y I'm making a email db for new grad

[zenith eagle]

but like fuck recruiters man i'm literally doing ur job for u bitch just reply to my email i've served u my resume and app and introduced myself to u directly just reply to my email

linkedin recruiters need to get the 🔫

[fickle juniper]

I feel like cold emailing only works if ur alr cracked

[vivid fiber]

Ya honestly it does only work if ur cracked

[zenith eagle]

lemme share my format i've got some decent responses

this was b4 shopi

[vivid fiber]

I emailed a bunch of LinkedIn recruiters

The ones who responded were like "lol, no"

[fickle juniper]

Wtf

[zenith eagle]

tbf i had an eye catching prev role "space company" so i put that in the subject

[fickle juniper]

Even with Snap?

[vivid fiber]

My friend did the same, and they gave him oa

[novel dome]

NASA??

[vivid fiber]

Nah, b4 Snap

[zenith eagle]

nah lol but a canadian space agency contractor

[fickle juniper]

Oh lawl I feel it’d be a different story now haha

[zenith eagle]

CU co-op board goated for that

[novel dome]

fck cu coop board

[vivid fiber]

Well ya, but thats my point

[novel dome]

pure garbage

[placid dawn]

i wonder if hot girls get referrals ez

[zenith eagle]

was the absolute worst exp tho ngl

fuck that never doing it again

[fickle juniper]

Oh I missed ur msg here haha

[novel dome]

i spent like 1k n they did nothin to me

[steel escarp]

Me interested 👀

[zenith eagle]

i've seen hot guys get refs and pass interviews when the recutiers are chicks lol

[steel escarp]

Are u gonna public it?

[placid dawn]

it do be like that

[vivid fiber]

One example of this. I applied Square with referral for summer. Resume reject. Applied to CashApp for fall with Snap. I got phone in a week.

[zenith eagle]

mfw i've been grinding lc when i should grind the jim

[vivid fiber]

The person even referred to me as the kid at Snapchat

[placid dawn]

grind the chewing gum for them cheekbones

[fickle juniper]

LOL

[vivid fiber]

Nah, I got some secret emails there

[steel escarp]

Sadge

[vivid fiber]

But I'm willing to share a company if I have it

[zenith eagle]

fyi folks start a knowledge bank

it'll save ur ass in the future

[vivid fiber]

I don't have much tho

[placid dawn]

i know a sr dev who works at stripe but im afraid to ask for ref

[zenith eagle]

recently started making one and i'm kicking myself why i didnt' do it

[vivid fiber]

Y r u afraid?

[fickle juniper]

Lol why

Just do it

[novel dome]

what u mean

[fickle juniper]

What’s he gonna do

[placid dawn]

idk what if i bomb and hes disappointed

[tight gale]

What's a knowledge bank

[vivid fiber]

I'm actually making a script to automate the scraping of all recruiters from a certain company

[placid dawn]

does stripe even do internships

[zenith eagle]

oh i'll do u one better i've had a linked connect who gave me a personal tour of the LI office some time ago when i hit him up for ref he'slike "who are u again"?

[vivid fiber]

Yes

[zenith eagle]

[vivid fiber]

They even do Canadian ones

[fickle juniper]

That’s fine, he won’t be disappointed

[vivid fiber]

For the Toronto office

[zenith eagle]

stripe stressful i hear

[placid dawn]

is stripe hard like uber

[vivid fiber]

I heard it can b up to 60hr work weeks

[steel escarp]

Stripe wlb is bad lol

[fickle juniper]

I feel like stripe isn’t not that hard

[novel dome]

https://tenor.com/view/newphone-whodis-gif-5220314

[zenith eagle]

what's the design? like first name last name all combinations based on recruiter name? or api connect to like rocketreach or something?

[vivid fiber]

The 2nd

[zenith eagle]

that absolutely got me pissed lol

u gonna pay for third party?

[vivid fiber]

I could share the script once I get around to making it

[zenith eagle]

rocketreach is $$$$

[vivid fiber]

Nah I got a hacky workaround to get shit for free lol

[novel dome]

is there like lc for learning to negoiating

[zenith eagle]

oh dw i got a fb ref and i failed phone cuz i was literally shaking and grinding my teeth my interviewer saw it

it happens man

better to take hte chance than wonder what if

[fickle juniper]

I feel like getting referrals is really easy

Which is why they don’t matter very much

[novel dome]

gotta spam em till they give u one

[fickle juniper]

Yeah exactly

I wish ppl were less liberal about giving out referrals, then they might actually work

[zenith eagle]

google referrals dont matter appranlty

[vivid fiber]

That would be worse

When referrals meant more

[placid dawn]

the goal is to wait for everyone here to get jobs then get ez referrals

[vivid fiber]

People at big tech started selling them

So companies had to nerf

[fickle juniper]

Well damn

[frozen umbra]

Yup

[novel dome]

i do the same

[fickle juniper]

Ig that’s whatd happen

[novel dome]

charge 10k for JS referral

[vivid fiber]

Ur the problem 😭

[novel dome]

just a side hustle 😉

but i would be oprah with refs

[frozen umbra]

I dont give any referrals unless I know them irl tbh

If I cant vouch for them, I wont give them a referral

Like the most ill do is for a friend of a friend

[placid dawn]

who cares ser all that matters is u get a chek bonus

straight to the crypto fund

[zenith eagle]

I've heard peeps doing "here's a resume for someone I'm acquainted with - I don't know them personally so I'm not vouching for then but I don't want to lie saying I didn't pass this along so"

[vivid fiber]

A lot of companies have 2 types of referrals. One for if you've personally worked with someone. And the other for someone you may know a bit, or you think is a potential strong fit for the role.

[frozen umbra]

^^ yup, I know google has 2 types of referrals

[placid dawn]

ive worked with u in elementary remember

my brother

we colored cartoons together

[zenith eagle]

I'm not referring you cuz you spell coloured colored

[placid dawn]

angry goose

[zenith eagle]

Yeah but look at the name of this channel bud

[fickle juniper]

Did u know “colored” gets autocorrected to “coloured” in the #canada channel and the other way around in the other channels

[untold nebula]

Colored

I've been bamboozled

[zenith eagle]

My pet peeves - if you say z as zee not zed if you spell color not colour and you spell licence and license and more

[placid dawn]

que

[zenith eagle]

Canadianisms

Especially the licence one so many peeps spell it as license for the noun

[fickle juniper]

Canadiénne-isms*

[worn moss]

Just cuz it’s memed doesn’t mean it’s dogshit I mean ur still given 5 4 month coop terms and a bunch of good companies on ur portal

[zenith eagle]

Anyone who shits on univerties is a real meme

TMU chads are goated

I know more than a couple at hfts

[placid dawn]

u can shit on my uni idc

i legit haven't studied for an hr in the past 2 years

[fickle juniper]

What is an hr?

[placid dawn]

[fickle juniper]

Wait do u mean 1 hour?

[placid dawn]

oh just

i havent had to study for a class

for more than 1 hour

the profs take questions from wikipedia

or quizlet

[fickle juniper]

Holy crap that’s the dream

[placid dawn]

id rather study more and go to a good school tbh

[zenith eagle]

did u mean harvard

[vivid fiber]

Same story here lol

Well I do study a bit

But compared to my friends at UofT and other places it's a breeze

All my friends at my uni skip class, and still manage high gpas

[zenith eagle]

@vivid fiber tbh it's the dream when I was at uoft it was a balance between school and finding time to learn new stuff and LC and I wish I had more time for LC cuz that's what matters

[vivid fiber]

For me it's a balance of goofing off and grinding

Although my school ain't that great for cs so I don't super recommend

We have a lot of Amazon and MSFT alumnid tho

[vapid oracle]

Yeah it's ironic that most of my learning happens when I have a break from classes and have time for projects and leetcode.

[placid dawn]

how important are lc hard problems

life is too short to do lc hards

[vivid fiber]

Not v important tbh

Unless ur interviewing at a hot startup or a place known for asking lc hard you prob don't even need to touch em.

Although I would still do a few of the classic ones, like best time to sell stocks, trapping rain water, lfu cache, etc.

[novel dome]

Is the time complexity of std:string.length() (or size()) O(1)?

[frozen umbra]

It should be yes

[novel dome]

Ty

[spring wren]

is this the main amazon sde posting for canada? https://www.amazon.jobs/en/jobs/2038679/jr-software-dev-engineer?cmpid=SPLICX0248M&utm_source=linkedin.com&utm_campaign=cxro&utm_medium=social_media&utm_content=job_posting&ss=paid

never knew they did part time too

confused me when they have jr in the title instead of intern but it looks like this is for interns

[novel dome]

ty for sharing

gotta apply now

[spring wren]

do they usually come out during this time for Canada? this was so hidden

posted april 25th 🤔

[novel dome]

never seen this shit before

[novel dome]

oh rip

[spring wren]

looks like its for next year though

or fall/winter sem too part time

[novel dome]

imagine getting rejected from this n having a cooldown for summer 2023 internship 💀

[placid dawn]

oh shit

i think rejection only counts if they give u oa

[spring wren]

isnt cooldown only 6 months?

so if u get oa in july, we can still reapply in jan? 🤔

[placid dawn]

i got rejected yet got both winter and summer oas

[spring wren]

rejected after oa?

[placid dawn]

ye

3 months apart

[spring wren]

do they have specific winter posting?

whats the above posting then, just generally any season?

[placid dawn]

idk but i applied

[novel dome]

can you apply for amzn summer in jan?

i thought it would be like in sept-oct

[frozen umbra]

You can. Amazon is still open at that time

Especially since they post on the Waterloo board that redirects you to their listing for summer, and Waterloo job board opens up in January for summer coops

[novel dome]

Does amzn do winter

[novel dome]

Oh okay 🙂

[frozen umbra]

Yes Amazon does winter

[spring wren]

🙏 🙏 🙏

[lucid berry]

Is there a cooldown if I fail this?

[novel dome]

bless

[spring wren]

i think 6 months if u fail OA, not sure though, I've never applied

[lucid berry]

kk

Thanks

If I don't get OA, there's no cooldown, right?

[frozen umbra]

no Oa, you can expect no cool down

[lucid berry]

Thanks

Ah yo, it was posted in April, no way I got a chance

[novel dome]

What happens if u fail interview stage?

cooldown too?

[frozen umbra]

yeah

you fail interview stage, youll have cooldown

[tight gale]

Will meta still be on hiring freeze

[frozen umbra]

Meta discord says yes

[fickle juniper]

For which season?

[tight gale]

2023

[frozen umbra]

There’s a good chance that the current interns are not getting return new grad offers from what I’m hearing

[analog current]

damn

is there a something i can do to increase my chances of receiving amazon OA

recruiters dont respond bruh

they accept my linkedin req but ghost my dms

[tight gale]

Theres just referral

[analog current]

and they have like 200 connections

thats easy

but i have friends who applied with solid referrals and got ghosted

amazon is so random

[tight gale]

Yea ultimately its rng

[analog current]

would going to the office and asking for one work?

with a resume in my hand and shit

[tight gale]

Dunno lol

Would be strange if a random person just went to the office asking for the OA but imo

[analog current]

it would be ✨ unique ✨

[placid dawn]

just modify your resume if u dont get oa

and add key words around

[analog current]

what are some nice amazon appealing keywords

[placid dawn]

aws

mobile

java

words like real-time

etc

[frozen umbra]

@ornate sigil average closing price for June was 173.5

1268 rsus

Pretty fat still, but was hoping for 1500 rsus ;-;

[ornate sigil]

😮

not brutal

[primal cliff]

What are some companies that pay 30$+/hour except faang in Vancouver?

Bc it seems like lot of the bigger companies here lowball for Vancouver but for states they pay hella good

[ornate sigil]

what’s microsoft paying interns these days

[vivid fiber]

Maybe "A Thinking Ape"?

[tight gale]

They were offering around 100k for ng

[primal cliff]

Oh ok I see

[vivid fiber]

Also maybe salesforce?

Iirc they have an office there

[vivid fiber]

This is just all of Canada tbh

[primal cliff]

Yep

Tbh

To get in the 30+ range its better to jus check out us remote roles

[frozen umbra]

There’s a bunch of startups paying like 30+ for internships

My brothers internship at this start up is paying 33

But I’m not sure for Vancouver, this is for a company in Mississauga

[untold nebula]

mastercard

[hot rapids]

This is for the internship program, right?

[craggy moth]

wealthsimple, SAP, coursera

affirm

shopify

oracle

faire

squarepoint

[vivid fiber]

Yes it seems like a part-time internship

[placid dawn]

it be nice to do it I bet Jr sounds better than Intern

[fickle juniper]

If u count remote, Shopify and Coinbase

[fickle juniper]

Oh u alr said

[frozen umbra]

coinbase?

more like deadBase

or coindead

[tawny zephyr]

I want cb

man I am so tired

wonderland killed me

and I got some internship stuff left

[storm stream]

Anyone know anything about Pinterest Canada?

[vivid fiber]

What abt it do u wanna know?

[storm stream]

What the team/culture is like

And if they hiring new grad

[placid dawn]

pinterest always reject me

[frozen umbra]

I heard they are hiring, just when I was applying, I didn’t see their posting

[placid dawn]

ill reapply with diff email

[vivid fiber]

They hired new grad last year iirc

[storm stream]

Damnnnnn, ima get resume screened 100%

[vivid fiber]

They have an insanely high hiring bar

I'd say hiring bar is similar to Snap, in terms of interview difficulty + resume screen

At least from what I heard

But there's always a chance 🤞

[tight gale]

I got screened by pinterest

[storm stream]

[storm stream]

I think their Toronto office is tiny so it makes sense

Like under 20 employees?

[oblique crater]

the interns all had phds in Pinterest canada

[vivid fiber]

Nah, that's just how it is in the US too

[vivid fiber]

I doubt that lol

[storm stream]

Pinterest apps open in August

[oblique crater]

there was like 2 or 3

maybe not all but the ones I saw on LinkedIn seemed to all be in grad school

[storm stream]

I see a bunch of undergrad interns on LinkedIn

all from Waterloo lmao

[placid dawn]

it be like that

waterloo = recruiters get wet

its in the name. "water"loo

[tight gale]

Is it worth to get another bachelors for loo rep

[boreal sentinel]

HAPPY CANADA DAY 🇨🇦

id like to thank my parents for moving here

[vivid fiber]

Nah, imo

Don't u already have a ft job?

[tight gale]

Yea

[storm stream]

he was kidding

[fickle juniper]

A second bachelor of cs?

[tight gale]

But waterloo though

I did electrical for my degree

[oblique crater]

yeah it'll definitely help

[vivid fiber]

I have a bad sense of humour. I apologize for missing the joke 😔

[oblique crater]

i'd say do 2 degrees, 8 years in loo will seriously up your prestige

[fickle juniper]

I can’t imagine a bigger waste of ur time

[tight gale]

Hmm cool will that help get me girls too

[storm stream]

do it then refer me to jane street 🙂

[oblique crater]

oh most definitely, studies show that math and cs coops at loo get 5x more matches the average uni student

[vivid fiber]

You'll be like the dude on College Dropout. Buried with your degrees 😂

[tight gale]

[tight gale]

Nah too big brain 4 me, I would probably be happy with meta/google/airbnb/linkedin

[novel dome]

whats the best comp for WLB

[placid herald]

Did your parents immigrate from Bangladesh by any chance?

[storm stream]

airbnb? idk

[vivid fiber]

Airbnb is bad imo

I think Datadog and Shopify r good

[tight gale]

[storm stream]

Wait really? I was falling in love with their recent permanent WFH announcement

[vivid fiber]

Well tbh I'm not sure about their actual wlb, but I remember hearing about how they fired a bunch of people in a really shitty way or smth

[novel dome]

unemployment might be the best thing then

[boreal sentinel]

yea lol

[frozen umbra]

Happy Canada Day my fellow canadians

[placid dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-canada-day-canada-eh-canadian-pride-fête-du-canada-dominion-day-gif-17602849

[pale plover]

Actually feel like UW CS and Math is overrated. Ik plenty of avg ppl from uottawa and UFT easily getting matches too. It's just often ppls resumes suck or they don't know how to apply.

[frozen umbra]

They're memeing + they're talking about girls, not jobs

[pale plover]

Haha i guess that applies too, just go meet ppl at Laurier haha

[frozen umbra]

The whole point of going to UW is for their COOP program, in which youll get 6 4 month coops, and our school job board has a ton of great jobs. Plus some companies specifically have spots open only for UW students

meta

[pale plover]

Maybe I'm one of the rare ones but I'm finishing up CS/BBA at Waterloo. Really doesn't feel super special to me tbh

[frozen umbra]

Else, it doesnt really matter which uni. Theres always people from other unis getting fantastic jobs

I mean, i finished UW CE, and I didnt find anything special

[pale plover]

Other unis catching up

[frozen umbra]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pale plover]

I also feel like it's overhyped not all UW CS get faang internships

[frozen umbra]

Maybe, but its not that other unis are catching up. but people are grinding more

[pale plover]

Prob like only 25%ish is my guess

[frozen umbra]

No one cares which uni you go, if you grinded hard and got internships, youll be able to land FT jobs you wanted

[pale plover]

Truee

[frozen umbra]

UW just forces the internship part

assuming your in the coop program for CS

[pale plover]

Yeh CS/BBA is mandatory coop

[frozen umbra]

yeah i know that

[pale plover]

Oh you meant in general

[frozen umbra]

i think 25% might be low guess

but I might be bias cause my CE cohort was cracked

[pale plover]

For CS I think it's 25, prob not for SE

[frozen umbra]

and im pretty sure more than 25% of my program got FAANG

[pale plover]

I mean you only hear about the good faang stories haha not the bad ones

[frozen umbra]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Thats true

[pale plover]

but i will say what's good about UW is you are pretty much guaranteed a FT job if you are not picky.

[worn moss]

ur actually doing cs/bba instead of dropping??????

[pale plover]

Haha I actually enjoy the business side

It's fun

[fickle juniper]

Does shopify let u start in US ft?

If ur from Canada

[placid dawn]

looks like capital one OA is auto

[craggy moth]

Capital one doesnt sponsor btw

[placid dawn]

well now they do 😈

its for Summer 2023 so I guess ill be grad by then

aka dont need sponsor

[frozen umbra]

No iirc

[placid dawn]

damn capital one interviews seem so trash

[fickle juniper]

What do u guys think about Shopify Prod Eng vs HubSpot Backend (return)?

For internship

[tight gale]

Hubspot rejected me so I would say shopify

[storm stream]

What's the deadline on the OA?

I'm not in my prep so need to delay application

[storm stream]

What's prod eng? Is it SRE work?

[lucid berry]

Yes

[untold nebula]

Nah, it's building products for backend teams

Like developer tools

SRE is something else

[lucid berry]

It explicitly mentions SRE in their description though

[fickle juniper]

The way it was explained to me was like, backend teams build products for merchants, prod eng teams build products for backend teams

It does have sre in the description, tho my interviewer who was a prod engineer was building a dashboard for his Kafka service, which is like front end work I think

[oblique crater]

amazon 2023 newgrad is out for canada

https://www.amazon.jobs/en/jobs/2080749/software-development-engineer-2023-canada

[placid dawn]

im scared

[spring wren]

is it fine if i apply to both new grad and internship at the same time and take whichever one i get?

since i can adjust my semesters so I can change my graduation date

or will they be sus of it

would that work fine? or is there still a risk and i get cooldown somehow

[placid dawn]

i wouldnt do multi email with amazon

[placid dawn]

they always send only 1 oa for the best role youre fit

[spring wren]

damn ok

so it's only one or the either

[fluid surge]

omg is this new

https://www.amazon.jobs/en/jobs/2114265/software-development-engineer-intern-2023-canada

amazon POSTING

[craggy moth]

Canada posting

[fluid surge]

YYEEEEHAW

should I go for FT or internship

my real grad date is may 2023

[vivid fiber]

FT

[fluid surge]

ok ur prob right

so risky

i wish i could do both

so i have 2 tries

hahaha

are we allowed to put different grad dates for each application

[placid dawn]

maybe

[placid dawn]

woooo

what do u guys write here

im guessing its when did u get ur oa last

[novel dome]

damn soe arly

still havent finished grind 75 yet

[fluid surge]

i did 52/75 of the grind 75

the other ones are all nasty ...

got 8 hards left

i cant do those man

[fluid surge]

do as it asks uncle bezos

[novel dome]

im at like 44

n the rest seem pain

[fluid surge]

i put amazon intern: august 2021

i mightve missed some

oh well

[placid dawn]

rip

[placid dawn]

it dont matter

u either get easy or super hard dp

no in between

[spring wren]

u tried oa last year? how was it

[novel dome]

how are FAANG type OA?

Idk if im expecting them to be harder than it really is

that doesnt sound bad

idk y i thought CB would be like lc Hard

[spring wren]

never tried anything else though

[spring wren]

same bro im surprised cause its the first oa i passed 😂

[placid dawn]

easy but one had a catch

[spring wren]

did u move onto oa 2?

[placid dawn]

no i barely knew 2sum

[spring wren]

is it oa 1 technical -> oa 2 behavioural -> final interview -> offer?

[placid dawn]

well oa2 isnt with a human

i think

[spring wren]

yeah i heard its the amazon LP questions

is it?

[placid dawn]

yea but idk what

like is it mcqs

or short essays

[spring wren]

i pictured it as short answers

🤔

[placid dawn]

i changed my resume since oa

i hope it goes thru

[spring wren]

same

🙏

[frozen umbra]

rng, some are ez, some are meh

google one i got was easy

meta was bad

[placid dawn]

meta they say its lc copy paste

[novel dome]

are most comp auto OAs?

[placid dawn]

but u need to be fast and no mistakes

[frozen umbra]

mine was nie lc copy paste

interview was pretty close

but oa was not

and no

most comp are not auto oa

pretty sure amazon resume screens before oa

google screens, meta idk

tiktok is auto

[spring wren]

i didnt even get tiktok oa

for fall 2022

🥲

[placid dawn]

amz looks like parser bot

[placid dawn]

tiktok oa is hard af i think

[frozen umbra]

its meh

5 querstions 90 mins

[spring wren]

when u applied for amazon u cant see resume that u uploaded right, i just uploaded it but theres no preview

[frozen umbra]

2 are super easy

3 are meds

i solved 2 20/20, 2 17/20, 1 brute force, and passed the tiktok oa

[barren sinew]

Here's one with a large Vancouver presence: Intel and the spin off Solidigm

[timid tartan]

I'm ready to be ghosted by Amazon again for the fourth time

[placid dawn]

change ur resume bru

[spring wren]

@placid dawn on amazon jobs does it still say draft for u even tho u submitted it?

[placid dawn]

which job

[spring wren]

on their portal

sde intern 2023

[spring wren]

not amazon university but their normal portal

[novel dome]

Anyone willing to view my resume before I apply for amzn

[spring wren]

o it took a while for mine to show up

[placid dawn]

just complete it ig

[spring wren]

it is complete tho lol

[placid dawn]

#resume

[placid dawn]

what if u click complete

[spring wren]

it takes me to the university portal

and thats it

shows this

[placid dawn]

yea its good

[spring wren]

maybe its just not updated

[placid dawn]

looks good to me

[spring wren]

o u submitted for both new grad and intern?

[placid dawn]

dm if u want

[spring wren]

i was gonna do that but idk if id get flagged or smthn

[placid dawn]

yea but i did last year too and they only give me 1 oa

for intern

[spring wren]

what if its different process and u just didnt get new grad oa

[placid dawn]

maybe 🥴

i guess in 2 weeks we'll know

[spring wren]

🤔

[fluid surge]

gdi

i was so lucky last year with rng

got amazon OA with 1 month co-op exp

didnt pass final interview though fack

@placid dawn wtf you submitted to both intern and new grad this time as well ?

but they ask for grad date o.O

@spring wren are you gonna apply to both as well?

maybe i should too

so for intern application do you put a later expected grad date and FT you put earlier😄

[placid dawn]

isnt it grad between may and october or smth

[novel dome]

Wouldnt it be smarter to apply for intern?

And grind for return offer

Assuming the intern hiring process is easier

[craggy moth]

I think its the same difficulty

[novel dome]

oh acctually

didnt know that

[craggy moth]

you could get 1x30 for intern final

and new grad final

depends on the OA results

[novel dome]

damn

[spring wren]

i think ima only apply to intern, ive heard from another too that they only sent 1 OA

[fluid surge]

ohhh interesting

isnt intern final always 30 mins?

thats what i got last year haha

[fluid surge]

intern is for grad date between oct 2023 to 2026 or something and FT is oct 2021 to sept 2023 grad date

so there's no overlap between the two :p

[placid dawn]

ez

[fluid surge]

ez pz

[novel dome]

how is amzn intern process?

OA1->Oa2-> interview?

[fluid surge]

yes

OA1 : 2 coding questions

OA2: behavioral

oh nvm mine was 1x45 then

gdi!

[novel dome]

How is behaviroaul oa done?

[fluid surge]

so if i had nailed it, it would've been the same as FT where i just explain my answers?

[novel dome]

is it like those self-video interview?

[fluid surge]

behavioral is like some workplace simulation where they introduce you toi these fake coworkers

and put you into different scenarios and you do mc quiestions on how you would respond

lol

[novel dome]

ohhh

rip me

never gonna pass any MC

[fluid surge]

and final round was just LC easy for me which was make stack from 2 queues (this was before I grinded LC) i solved it but still didnt get the job

also they ask behavioral q as well

tell me an instance where ________ and you want to answer with their leadership princolkes

[placid dawn]

is this by urself or witha live person

[fluid surge]

by yourself

[placid dawn]

while we are here fighting for amazon

[novel dome]

who tf is tipping in mcdonalds

[tawny zephyr]

facts

[placid dawn]

kanada wake up

[untold nebula]

Just curious has anyone gotten a Google fall interview. I didn't, but I'm wondering if anyone else has

[timid tartan]

Yep

[fickle juniper]

yeah a bunch

even specifically for Canada

[timid tartan]

There should be quite a number of ppl who got it

[fickle juniper]

did u get yours scheduled yet?

[timid tartan]

Yeah

[fickle juniper]

when is it? Mine is in like a week and a half

[timid tartan]

Oh I put mine extremely late

But it's intentional lol

[fickle juniper]

how late, like end of July?

[timid tartan]

Early august

[fickle juniper]

what da fuq

[timid tartan]

Lol it's intentional

[fickle juniper]

im surprised they're still doing technicals then

[timid tartan]

Same xD

[fickle juniper]

cuz I think there's still interviews afterwards

[timid tartan]

Yep, but I'm not worried about that

[fickle juniper]

oh im guessing you want to move to another season

[timid tartan]

Bingo

[fickle juniper]

ah then that makes perfect sense

[timid tartan]

Yeah hahaha

[untold nebula]

damn when were interviews given out for canada?

is it too late to get an interview now?

[fickle juniper]

did u do OA?

[untold nebula]

never got one

[fickle juniper]

hmm tbh not sure if they're still sending out OAs

[untold nebula]

damn i really got resume rejected huh

[fickle juniper]

honestly I have no idea

they seem to send them out in waves

and I think there have been 2 waves so far

so idt it's over unless u actually got reject

[untold nebula]

no reject email so far

just ghosted for now

[frozen umbra]

Yeah if you didn’t get oa, you’ll just be ghosted

You get an email if you get rejected after oa

[timid tartan]

Dw it took me 3 attempts to get it lol

[placid dawn]

1 week to get rejected

[narrow bobcat]

hey can i dm you about shopify?

[fickle juniper]

Sure

[fluid surge]

damnnn you got shopify return offer?

i cant even get their intern interview 😦

i like shopify

[frosty arrow]

Anyone looking to move in DTA for work near Aug end?

[worn moss]

any1 have the contacts at zon canada and can send their names my way plz

[prisma garnet]

what's zon 🤔

[worn moss]

amazon

[prisma garnet]

wait, is there any point to ask this if I already applied?

[fickle juniper]

Not return, not even an offer yet but I know I passed their finals. I'm a bit scared they're going to freeze hiring

[frozen umbra]

Everyone is hiring freeze lmao

[fickle juniper]

Shopify?

Ppl on blind got written offers even like 2 days ago

[placid dawn]

hello canada

[bronze atlas]

When should I start applying if I will graduate on May 2023?

[placid dawn]

yesterday

[prisma garnet]

I can't find much new grad post tho

How do you search it

[storm stream]

Patience, young padawan

[prisma garnet]

ok

[placid dawn]

LC premium worth it after blind75?

or no point

[storm stream]

maybe neetcode 150 next?

or grind 150

[placid dawn]

[tight gale]

I bought but it's not really required

[novel dome]

If you finsihed blind/grind 75, how comfortable have u become solving lc med?

[placid dawn]

havent finished yet tbh

[novel dome]

how much have u gone thrpugh?

Are Binary Search/Graph quite common OA questions?

ahh ok

[barren sinew]

I was asked quite a few binary search questions through my interviews

Or a variation of them

[placid dawn]

arent u in google or smth like that

[pulsar gazelle]

Anyone know where I can find 4 month rentals in Montreal?

[dark portal]

Honestly bro, try airbnb

It's pretty solid for finding 4 month rentals

BTW, what are some companies that pay 30/hr in Montreal?

[fickle juniper]

Unity Goog SAP

[dark portal]

I think autodesk too

So, yeah, I think IBM -> Unity is a decent lateral move

Or rather IBM -> SAP

[fickle juniper]

Are u looking for summer?

Unity only does summer FYI

And SAP only does 8 months I think, unless u get an exception

[dark portal]

I see...

I'm looking for an 8 month winter internship

Or a 4 month summer internship

This'll be in 2023 btw

[fickle juniper]

Oh that’s perfect then

[frozen umbra]

Yeah sap Vancouver and Montreal only do 8 month

[steel escarp]

idk

if u already got ibm

just go for faang or big n/ unicorn

[fickle juniper]

^I agree. it’s kind of a waste of time going for “lateral” moves, u should always be going for better internships or working towards graduating to start full time

Or if u have a particular interest, going for that

Like imo SAP is a good first or second internship, but not if u alr have IBM

Unity is a step up imo tho

They’re hard to get tho, cuz they don’t hire that many interns

Honestly probably have a better shot at Amazon just because they hire so much 😅

[steel escarp]

Unity just laid off

sadge

SAP montreal sometimes does 4 months in the summer tho

u can correct me if i'm wrong

[fickle juniper]

I’ve heard some ppl get 4 months just cuz they asked

[frozen umbra]

Yeah that’s what I heard as well. The general trend is that it’s 8 month for thos 2 branches, 4 months here in Waterloo branch

Unless you are going for some research position, in which they’ll extend it up to 8 month

[fickle juniper]

Generally yeah, but I know a person who asked for 4months for SAP concur in Van and they said yes

[steel escarp]

when google eth?

🤣

[fickle juniper]

So I think it just depends on team if u ask

[frozen umbra]

When I asked, I got ghosted

;-;

[fickle juniper]

Maybe never

[steel escarp]

nah u will get it

ur cracked

[fickle juniper]

Problem is I suck at lc lawl

Just gotta get lucky 🙏

[steel escarp]

well either ur cracked or ur on crack

[fickle juniper]

And grind

[steel escarp]

either way good

cuz u will nail the interview

[fickle juniper]

Sometimes I get confused myself

[steel escarp]

touch grass sometimes

[frozen umbra]

Just go into interview drunk

You’ll get the offer

Trust

[steel escarp]

nah but i'm looking for a new grad next winter

LOL

[fickle juniper]

Ohh like Jan 2023?

[steel escarp]

@dark portal might want it

ye

[fickle juniper]

I will dm

[steel escarp]

sure

feet pics plz ❤️

[fickle juniper]

I meant I will dm Shaq lawl

U alr have my feet pics, u want more?

[steel escarp]

i always want more

[fickle juniper]

U insatiable minx u

[steel escarp]

thats a good thing

so i can balance out the grass i touched

[dense monolith]

does amazon canada pay for your housing

while interning

[fickle juniper]

U get a stipend every month, but that’s just cash u can use on anything

[dense monolith]

I see

[dense monolith]

that's separate from the wage?

[dark portal]

@fickle juniper plz dm me more feet pics too 👉👈

Bro, I swear... I just wanna go back to Montreal rn

I know ibm has an office there, so I'd honestly take ibm Montreal over Amazon Toronto or Vancouver (unless Amazon let's me transfer over to their Montreal office)

[fickle juniper]

Accept my friend request 😅

[dark portal]

Oh snap. My bad buddy haha

[steel escarp]

ibm offices other than markham/ottawa is service based

u know that right?

LOL

[fickle juniper]

Yup

[dark portal]

Fawk

[steel escarp]

they have 'associate software developer'

technically u develop things for external customers

just like calgary

[dark portal]

I see...

[steel escarp]

u can work in the same team and ask ur manager to let u work from x place

like my case

my manager allows me to work from calgary next sem

[dark portal]

Ahhh I see

Yeah, I'll ask him that too

And I don't mind coming down to Toronto once a week or so

But this'll only be for full time

[steel escarp]

thought u want to do master?

in that case just dont extend ur internship

ibm has a thing called student on call

u can work part time during school year

just do that till u can get other offers u want

its not worth for u to take a sem off for ibm

[dark portal]

Yeaaah maybe

Bro, technically I can finish in 3 semesters if I go all in

[steel escarp]

did u know the soc thing?

[dark portal]

But, the thing is, I wanna have time for leetcode too

[steel escarp]

I can send u the link

[dark portal]

Yeah

[steel escarp]

lol

[dark portal]

There's a link to the application?

[steel escarp]

nah

like ur manager

has to apply that for u

[dark portal]

Ahhh I see

[steel escarp]

u can just send ur manager that link

and ask about it

[dark portal]

When does he have to do that?

[steel escarp]

in my case my manager talked to his manager

his manager said yes

then he talked to the hr

[dark portal]

Ohhhh dammnnn

[steel escarp]

some cases ur manager need to submit a ticket or sthing

[dark portal]

I see