canada

[covert bluff]

Or what are you working up towards

[frozen umbra]

Yeah I have. Moving to America in like 1 month time

[tawny zephyr]

skills

sheeeesh did u get the canadian upgrade on it? 👀

[ornate sigil]

i’m buying running shoes

time to get my fat ass outta the house

[frozen umbra]

i feel that, I gotta lose more weight to look like a korean again

[ornate sigil]

i been eating too much korean bbq

[frozen umbra]

Ive just been eating too much ;-;

[ornate sigil]

same i got like 2 courses all i do all day is watch twd and get food

super bloke mode

[oblique crater]

living the life fr

[spring wren]

anyone wanna lend me a referral 😉

i wanna land summer 2023 now that fall 2022 is basically done 🥲

[ornate sigil]

first time in years

[frozen umbra]

shit, now im craving kbbq

[steel escarp]

kbbq is da best

[ornate sigil]

i’m kinda bad at knowing when the meat is ready

[frozen umbra]

I think im getting pretty good

[flint scroll]

any good recommendations of unis around 25k a year

[frozen umbra]

If your a canadian, im pretty sure every uni is 25K or less per year

[cursive blaze]

Yeah I spent 30k for like my entire education 🤣

[tight gale]

unless your international

then that 25k is 1 semester

[cursive blaze]

True

I think for a domestic student I paid like 7k a year

[frozen umbra]

I paid 8k per term ;-;

so like 16 per year

[tight gale]

thats similar to ubc which is around 7k per sem for engineering

[frozen umbra]

what rent

I lived at home Lol

[tight gale]

always felt like a scam that some programs paid more lol

usually applied sciences and business have higher tuition

[frozen umbra]

yeah, cause theyll always get students

so might as well milk some money out of them

[analog current]

is it too late for fall internships in canada or have they not opened yet?

[craggy moth]

they are open

for like 1-3 months

[analog current]

1 to 3 months ahead?

or have they been open for 1-3 months

[analog current]

.

[craggy moth]

they've been open for 1-3 months

and now new postings have slowed down a lot

because of the mini recession thats happeneing

[analog current]

shit

hopefully i can still grab me one

if not we'll go crazy for winter ones

[flint scroll]

international :((

[flint scroll]

international :((

[frozen umbra]

Uhh, idk if there’s any. At least for a cs major. You should just research yourself since majority of us are Canadians

[flint scroll]

dayum alr

yeah but theyre too expensive for international

[frozen umbra]

might just be cheaper to go to uni in your own country

[placid herald]

UCalgary is around 28kish per year for international students. But you can expect a 7% increase every year pretty much

[late lichen]

I only have to pay OSAP like 23K total. The net cost was about 50k tho

(OSAP is the Ontario student Assistance program)

OSAP is unfortunately not for international students

[oblique crater]

USask, URegina, UManitoba

not great schools but last I checked they were below 25k

[cursive blaze]

Macewan in Edmonton is probably around 25k a year

[oblique crater]

UofA was 22k in 2018 but the tuition hike has been crazy since then

it's closer to 32k now

[cursive blaze]

Yeah I think Macewan is cheaper than UofA

I went to Macewan and really enjoyed it

[oblique crater]

I'm international at UofA and thankfully there's a 5 year tuition guarantee

[oblique crater]

so I'm still a hair below 25k annually for full courseload, I like Edmonton

[cursive blaze]

Nice that’s solid. & yeah both are great schools

[oblique crater]

Macewan seems like a nice school and the class size there is very good

[cursive blaze]

I think the only real benefit for a CS program is that UofA has an actual co op program

Otherwise most of the profs teach at both schools

[oblique crater]

pretty bad coop program tbh, most uofa students don't get to use it

[cursive blaze]

Oh shit really then that’s rough

[oblique crater]

the engineering one is a bit better but that falls under software engineering which is overall a worse program than cs

1st year is basically useless

[cursive blaze]

Yeah gotta take all the general Eng classes

Class size at macewan it the biggest benefit

[oblique crater]

Matlab 💀

[frozen umbra]

physics

[cursive blaze]

My senior classes had generally 20 people in them

[oblique crater]

yeah senior classes here aren't too big except the popular ones

research output is what gives uofa the ranking boost

[cursive blaze]

Yeah that makes sense

I found the name recognition of UofA wasn’t anything special over Macewan either

But it comes down to preference, UofA has way more variety of extracurricular stuff to do

Macewan campus is very meh

[oblique crater]

yeah uofa campus is honestly underrated, tons of things happening especially pre covid

name recognition in cs is basically ubc, uoft and waterloo, nothing else matters

[cursive blaze]

Yeah biggest thing I noticed when visiting friends on the campus

[cursive blaze]

Until you get some work experience then nobody gives af xD

[flint scroll]

thanks ill check them out

[oblique crater]

pretty much yeah, first experience is blind luck honestly

[cursive blaze]

Yep it really is

[frozen umbra]

yup

Just the more internships, the more in your favour it is

[cursive blaze]

Yeah, I think people also get dead set on needing to make a big tech company right out of school.

[flint scroll]

doesnt waterloo have like a really good coop program

[frozen umbra]

Yes

[flint scroll]

but its fuck expensive lol

[frozen umbra]

its the best coop program in canada

[cursive blaze]

Quite tough to get in tho I think?

[frozen umbra]

yeah its tough from what i remember

[flint scroll]

the money part is harder for me lmao

[cursive blaze]

I sure as hell did not have the marks to get in 🤣 I was like a 75 average student .

[flint scroll]

can i get a scholarship as international student>??

[cursive blaze]

Coming outta high school

[oblique crater]

yeah lol like 95+ for loo cs nowadays

[frozen umbra]

in 2017 when i got in, an 86% average was able to get into CE

now its like higher than that

[flint scroll]

any swimming scholarships

[oblique crater]

fullride as international is a fool's errand

[frozen umbra]

I think if a coach recruits you, probably

[oblique crater]

any NA university, unless you're a straight prodigy

[flint scroll]

i dont need a full ride just need it to get down to 100k lol\

[flint scroll]

im #3 in my country but no candaian scouter will see me here lol

[oblique crater]

full ride?

[frozen umbra]

go email them

[flint scroll]

im in year 9 only tho

how?

which typa scholarship

mhm

oke

[oblique crater]

wtf? why are you asking so early

[flint scroll]

make some projects ig

wdym by research??

[oblique crater]

extracurriculars are inheretly an NA thing

[flint scroll]

😩

[flint scroll]

istg no one does that here

[oblique crater]

everywhere else in the world, school means you hit the books, get grades and go home

maybe play sports on the side

[flint scroll]

EXACTLY

[flint scroll]

we dont even have any team or club or anythijng

[cursive blaze]

Sports, volunteering, things like that are all generally looked for when it comes to scholarships.

[oblique crater]

that's why I say if you wanna stand out especially in US applications, you need to be a prodigy that started a non profit at 14 in a 3rd world country

[flint scroll]

and i pay about 12kusd a year to go to school

being international is fucking shit

[oblique crater]

yeah if you're in year 9 you have plenty of time

[flint scroll]

im in qatar tho

no one needs money lol

[oblique crater]

I lived in abudhabi

[flint scroll]

im egyption tho

i live in qatar

[oblique crater]

non profit for poor countries, take money from qataris

then you can say you raised 200k

[flint scroll]

its illegal in qatar

to make ur own charity '

[oblique crater]

it's just an example, research what successful students that made it into these top schools did

[flint scroll]

soo i just kinda be a good citizen and i get a scholarship

😃

dayum

[oblique crater]

then try and emulate, it's not gonna be a perfect fit

[frozen umbra]

just research it

[flint scroll]

OHH THATS REALLY SMART

yeah i wanna do that one

wait u mean like a youtube channel or like a website??

[craggy moth]

How do they validate this?

lol

[flint scroll]

just show them website stats

and say u got like 1000 visits a month

mm

so i should make a website?

what is a hs councillor

what is it lol

ive never heard of that

but ill just get some of my teachers to say im good

lol

also you said my best shot was at uoft right?

for a scholarship

alright

thanks man

ill check all the stuff you said out and try and make something

ill try my best

lol

[placid dawn]

bro where are the jobs

[frozen umbra]

Internship? Gone

Full time? Probably local companies

[placid dawn]

whats gone

i didnt see anything

all i saw was

oracle nokia and IBM

[frozen umbra]

Just work at oracle

[steel escarp]

Or ibm

[tight gale]

ibm has one of the slowest process ever

i applied last year and got the OA and they just rejected me like 2 weeks ago

[novel dome]

u got a higher chance with JS then IBM

[steel escarp]

Lool i think ibm gave out a decent number of offers this summer

There are more than 200 interns starting this summer tho

[steel escarp]

The oa was auto 👀

[novel dome]

damn

i failed to get a auto OA

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/840840186090881034.gif?size=64

[steel escarp]

Some positions dont have oa tho

Like its manager dependent

Ye

I got 4

But mine is in ottawa

Ye

Im doing 3 days office 2 day remote now

Nah its chill

No pressure

They should ask their hm

I got bunch of tickets

But like they put no pressure on me

But im in an actual product team so it might be different

Our backlog has bunch of tickets

I like in person

But ontario is expensive

I moved to ottawa

From calgary

[novel dome]

@steel escarp is IBM hiring for fall?

[steel escarp]

They do

[novel dome]

time to check if they still hirin

[steel escarp]

Gl

[novel dome]

ty ty

[timid tartan]

You are saying IBM OA was auto?

I got resume rejected 5 or 6 times already bruh

[steel escarp]

Cuz i added a script to auto reject u 🤣

[storm stream]

I didn't get auto OA either

[steel escarp]

Not me

[storm stream]

IBM too good

IBM > Neo

[steel escarp]

Prob ibm rejected overqualified ppl

[storm stream]

NAAAAAAH jk Neo > Uber

[steel escarp]

👀

[steel escarp]

Write my name in ur final report at amazon

There will be a referral section

I need banana

[storm stream]

say less

[steel escarp]

Give them a note

No dp tree linkedlist

🤣

[storm stream]

you gonna get 2sum

already scripted it for you

[novel dome]

how hard r amzn OA?

is it lc hard?

[storm stream]

LMAO nah

LC med at worst

and OA isn't important just get 50%

It's all about LP

[novel dome]

whats LP?

[storm stream]

leadership principles

[storm stream]

https://www.levels.fyi/blog/amazon-leadership-principles.html bookmark this for future reference

[steel escarp]

More like labour principle

[storm stream]

shits cheesy just memorize and regurgitate

[steel escarp]

Gotta be on call 365 days a year

[storm stream]

fr fr

[steel escarp]

Do u have to be on call?

[storm stream]

NOOOOOOOOOO WAY

[steel escarp]

Ik some interns have to

Which is weird

[storm stream]

thats crazy

they wouldn't know how to fix anything lmao

[novel dome]

hopefully i can get past the resume screen so i can worry abt LPs

[steel escarp]

Its kinda a good experience for them 🤣

[storm stream]

send me resume I'll help you out

resume screen at zon is lax

[novel dome]

bet bet

[steel escarp]

And i got rejected resume screen

[storm stream]

theres a "too good for zon" filter

I checked I work in the hiring org

your name was at the top

:/

[steel escarp]

Thats a @timid tartan resume

Passed hrt bb and everything

Failed amazon

[storm stream]

[novel dome]

thats the resume

one of the project is in progress

[craggy moth]

5 internships

[novel dome]

n still doing internship

[novel dome]

2 r hs

so poopoo

[steel escarp]

Damn the yung momo

[novel dome]

momo writting a damn essay

[steel escarp]

Oh no he just cant express how proud he is

To see this resume

[novel dome]

[steel escarp]

Gotta put emotion in compliment

Id personally put ta in exp tho

Just personal opinion

[storm stream]

BRO you're GOOOOOOOD

• I noticed you're not really mentioning what language in your bullet points. you HAVE to include that. At a glance it's hard to tell what kinda tech you used in your internships. Make that aspect easy to discover for both a recruiter as well as an ATS
• good job on the metrics
• don't use that light blue colour it hurts my eyes!!!!!!!!!!

It's solid dude you're gucci. Just advertize programming languages more clearly

[storm stream]

Oh yeah I missed that...... that's not extra curricular bro that's a real job 😂

[novel dome]

ok

[novel dome]

any color recomendations

[steel escarp]

Damn talking about ta i need to apply to be a ta for 217/231

[storm stream]

Black LMAO

[steel escarp]

But gl next generation

[storm stream]

damn assignemnts about to LC hard

[novel dome]

i spent so long on colors

-_-

[storm stream]

Just black

don't distract

[novel dome]

aight

[storm stream]

someone will look at this for 10 seconds

make it easy for them

[steel escarp]

I mean i look at this resume 5s

[novel dome]

Should i make the Source Code a diff color or no?

[steel escarp]

See 2025 grad 5x exp

Pass

[novel dome]

just tryin to hit double digits uk

[steel escarp]

Cali or bust dude

[storm stream]

Your bullet points are actually pretty good on "impact" which is what most people struggle with..... but it's missing the "how" or what you used specifically lol

[steel escarp]

🤣

[timid tartan]

That's a cap

[steel escarp]

I wonder if its hard to get us internships from uk

[storm stream]

how's saving cb from the recession going?

[timid tartan]

Amazon is god

[steel escarp]

Oh and they also rejected ppl who called ibm employees capping

[timid tartan]

I don't even know

I just assume my offer is rescinded

So yeah

[storm stream]

NO WAY dude

[timid tartan]

At least I can stop stressing about it

[timid tartan]

I mean..what can I even do lmao

[steel escarp]

^ this noob got splunk

[storm stream]

are you kidding

[steel escarp]

Dont feel bad for him

[timid tartan]

Just the OA

-_-

[storm stream]

they worries youll renege them

not the other way around

[timid tartan]

[steel escarp]

If u dont fail the oa and pass the interviews

U will get offer

[timid tartan]

Uh huh

[steel escarp]

See how ez it is

[timid tartan]

Sure 🙂

[novel dome]

first time hearin this

a year ago i was builled for not having impact

[storm stream]

[storm stream]

like what language was your govt of canada internship

I can't tell

[steel escarp]

Ur resume is good but dont have high hope cuz ur 2025 grad

[novel dome]

Python

[steel escarp]

Some places will auto reject u

[novel dome]

The thing with grad is

I put 2025 cuz of coop

[storm stream]

or pointclickcare??

[novel dome]

would it be better to stuff 2024

[steel escarp]

Dont put with coop

2024 is def better

For 2023 summer

[novel dome]

will do

[novel dome]

Java/Spring

[storm stream]

yeah but it's not immediately obv... in fact it's kinda obscure

imagine im a recruiter and I didn't know what junit or springboot is

bye bye

🚮

[timid tartan]

Just like how IBM auto rejected me

Sadge

[novel dome]

Also, whats ur thoughts on bolding certain stuff

[steel escarp]

Ye cuz u called me 🧢

[timid tartan]

Do it

I have quite a number of bolding on my resume

[storm stream]

I do it too.. some say it's OK some say it's not....

[timid tartan]

But idk

[storm stream]

but I like it

[timid tartan]

My resume is ass so

Don't listen to me lmao

[novel dome]

fck it

gonna bold all the language

[timid tartan]

Yea that's what I do

[steel escarp]

What do u think about writing cb location as sf and circle as boston while u working remote

[storm stream]

might wanna rephrase a few first

[timid tartan]

Hey that's your idea sir 🙂

Not mine 🙂

[steel escarp]

👀

[timid tartan]

Forget about CB tho

[novel dome]

do it

[timid tartan]

CB is gone

[steel escarp]

Hey hey dont point ur finger to me

🤣

[novel dome]

will do

[storm stream]

CB depends on you to survive the recession

[timid tartan]

You literally did that

[steel escarp]

Did wut

[storm stream]

I'm buying ETH everyday

lambo incoming

[timid tartan]

LMAO

[steel escarp]

Im innocent

[timid tartan]

More like homeless incoming

🤣

[storm stream]

bro in 3 years when shit moons

ez lambo

[timid tartan]

That is only if crypto will still exist bruh

[storm stream]

bruh this aint my first bear market

[steel escarp]

Its 1.1k now

[storm stream]

LETS GOOOOOO

[timid tartan]

1.1k what

[steel escarp]

Eth

1.1

[timid tartan]

Oh lmao

[storm stream]

1.1 sheckels

[steel escarp]

Im waiting for it to get below 1k

Then ill buy

🤣

[storm stream]

@steel escarp we gonna retire in 2 years

[steel escarp]

Imma retire next year

🤣

[timid tartan]

And then it will go down even more

[steel escarp]

Calm down

Dont take down cb server

[storm stream]

ETH would resume reject me tbh

[steel escarp]

Then we gud

[timid tartan]

Oh I will absolutely do that

By the end of the internship

I'll bomb the prod

🤣

[storm stream]

wait till @timid tartan first day... ETH gonna moon

[steel escarp]

Then they will call u out

And stripe will bomb u

[timid tartan]

👀

Time to go back to Circle and milk the IPO

[timid tartan]

Bro I am literally coping so hard

I really hope my offer will still survive till then

[storm stream]

if you haven't gotten the boot then you goof

good

unless theere's another wave

but I don't think so

@timid tartanhave you heard of time wonderland?

[novel dome]

I hope u can tell its python now

[storm stream]

unbold "script to save"

and unbold "queries"

and yes it's perfect

👌🏼

[steel escarp]

Too good

[novel dome]

ahhh

[steel escarp]

Now u only need a gud mentor

[novel dome]

only bold the lang/metric

[storm stream]

yeah

[steel escarp]

Steven is free next sem

[novel dome]

be my mentor 🥺

[steel escarp]

Cuz cb will ditch him

[novel dome]

[steel escarp]

🤣

[storm stream]

also wait for me to get a job before you apply

because I don't stand a chance

[novel dome]

can amzn interns refer?

[steel escarp]

They can

[novel dome]

bless

[steel escarp]

👀

If u want crypto/payment

Steven is ur guy

[novel dome]

good sire

[storm stream]

we kinda can but we don't get bonus

[novel dome]

i just want money

[storm stream]

its bullshit

[steel escarp]

If u want ez 6figs + quick pip

Dm momo

[storm stream]

ima get pip'd next week just watch

[novel dome]

lol

[storm stream]

dude I keep making pip jokes during standup

only the interns laugh

[steel escarp]

🤣

[storm stream]

maybe its taboo or something

they too scared to enjoy

[novel dome]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-disappointed-fan-seriously-what-are-you-doing-judging-you-gif-17485289

[storm stream]

lame ass team

[novel dome]

regular devs

[storm stream]

my team full of bots

beep bop

[worn moss]

Yo out of curiosity how hard is it to land an internship as a lower year

[eternal fossil]

numbers game

[worn moss]

Okay now let’s say this set lower year also happens to have good experience(4 internships cracked side projects) can he be selective or does he/should he still apply to 300+

[oblique crater]

doesn't hurt to apply to 300+

[eternal fossil]

he can choose what he wants to

[oblique crater]

selectiveness can only happen when you have offers

[eternal fossil]

but the 300+ helps to lower chances of random failures

[ornate sigil]

anyone else ac enjoy lady gaga’s music or is it just me

[worn moss]

Time

I kinda wna focus on school to better my chances for a transfer to cs

It doesn’t matter that much to me but I would regret not trying so

I want to

[ornate sigil]

holy u been grinding boss

just peeped ur site

good shit

[tight gale]

The guy we have to compete with

[eternal fossil]

makes me feel bad about touching grass

[ornate sigil]

i been binge watching movies for the past 4 months

[frozen umbra]

Bro, I was binge watching cdramas during my internship lmao

I finished like 5? Different dramas with 32 episodes each in like 2 weeks

[ornate sigil]

lmfao

i ripped 11 seasons of twd in like 1 month, given that i travelled to iceland in between im pretty proud of my speed 😂

i also just re-created Governor's theme song from scratch by ear [the beginning of it]

[frozen umbra]

Dude Pog

[ornate sigil]

ty!

[oblique crater]

yeah you're cracked for a highschooler

big companies usually post first so you'll have a 2-3 week period where you'll know whether you need to mass apply or not, I'd say if you get contacted by big company recruiters then just focus on those instead of applying more

[thick sinew]

do startup interviews go crazy with the technical portion?

[tight gale]

Yes lfu cache in 15 minutes

[thick sinew]

[cursive blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/dwight-im-interviewing-you-office-gif-23792141

Just pull this in the interview

Ez watch them do the technical

[worn moss]

"if you get contacted by big company recruiters" the only people im getting contacted by are these spam linkedin messages ima have it one day tho

[worn moss]

ty

[oblique crater]

i meant after applying

basically adjust the number of apps you submit based on your response rate

if its too low apply more, once you have enough OAs and interviews you can step off the gas and focus on those

[storm stream]

@steel escarp you know that super cracked girl from UofC? She got Meta

Imagine being this good

[frozen umbra]

Can’t be me

[storm stream]

Whenever she pops on my feed I'm like... yeah I'm trash

[vivid fiber]

U got Zon, ur far from trash lol

[stark patrol]

Whoa I just started UofC, so you're saying there's hope

[novel dome]

more work then school

[storm stream]

HECK ya

[storm stream]

True mark of crackdom

[novel dome]

that girl sounds like some1 from my uni

absoulute crack heads

[tight gale]

maybe actual crack is the secret to their success

someone needs to try it out

[ornate sigil]

Meta

Dang what a good company

I wish they gave me a chance

[steel escarp]

I saw this lol she started at msft

[timid tartan]

Bruh wtf

Meanwhile Coinbase is about to kick me out

[storm stream]

NOOOOOOOOOOO WAY

Interns are safe bruh

Why boot you and pay you a few months severance

When they can keep you and milk you for some code

[timid tartan]

That’s the thing man

I really don’t think interns are entitled to get severance pay lol

Otherwise yea that would be a waste of money lol

[steel escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/trabalgoa-gif-25900158

[craggy moth]

It’s been out for a while

[craggy moth]

Probably not coming to CA

Isn’t it late

[placid dawn]

i didnt see any

[cursive blaze]

Wealthsimple just did layoffs jeez

[boreal sentinel]

KANADA

RECESSION IS HERE

WHERE IS TRUDEAU

https://tenor.com/view/you-betcha-eh-canadian-canada-minnesota-gif-16819085

i thought wealthsimple was doing well

[cursive blaze]

I think their core business is still doing well, honestly they probably over-expanded and placed too many bets on crypto

Think a lot of the layoffs were within the crypto product

[boreal sentinel]

makes sense

i keep on forgetting about their crypto product

[steel escarp]

ws layoff as well

oh gosh

[knotty nova]

[ornate sigil]

wealthsimple layoffs wtf

[frozen umbra]

Rip

[storm stream]

It's gonna be a rough summer

[steel escarp]

Bruh i think ill just stay at where i am now

And hop later after the recession

[stark patrol]

this is pinned somewhere but I can't find it. When filling out those forms on applications, put not authorized to work in the US, but also do not need sponsorship? is that right cause TN visa?

[craggy moth]

You do need sponsorship

[stark patrol]

thanks!

[storm stream]

Bro your scripts at Jane Street will reverse the recession

[steel escarp]

too late ibm already matched js offer

[oblique crater]

if amazon does any layoffs, software developers will flood the market

[narrow spade]

wait does this mean that she was doing internships whilst also balancing classes?

holy

[craggy moth]

Probably not

[topaz saddle]

they want more

after failing my onsites with amazon

I got 4 recruiters reach out in the past week

alone

[storm stream]

Amazon pip rate is basically like a seasonal layoff fest

[placid dawn]

mfs with 5 coops already applying to $16 jobs around heere

[oblique crater]

that's a fair point

[storm stream]

What's TC for Walmart greeter these days?

[placid dawn]

5 bananas

[topaz linden]

What’s their ft comp in Canada?

[frozen umbra]

Meraki isnt offering anything in Canada, your going to america I believe

[topaz linden]

Na I got intern offer and recruiter told me just yesterday it’s possible to work full time from Canada

Just don’t know the numbers, haven’t seen anyone that’s done it

[frozen umbra]

That Idk

cause my friends offer was for their american office

Wait

are you talking about new grad comp, or their intern remote offer?

[topaz linden]

New grad

[frozen umbra]

yeah, my friend was offered non-remote

This is very dependent on the person. I personally like going to the office, so non-remote > remote

[tight gale]

Probably depends on office too

I would take remote over free 🍌

Does Google waterloo have no free food?

[frozen umbra]

uhhh

that i dont know

I think they do

[topaz linden]

They do

[frozen umbra]

I remember my friend saying he was coming over to get his free food

[topaz linden]

Google Waterloo has some very nice perks, my roommate is interning there right now

[frozen umbra]

team dependent

[topaz linden]

^

He goes in to the office everyday

[frozen umbra]

My friend goes to office like twice a week? but mainly lives in toronto

[tight gale]

I'll visit the office once to check it out

[frozen umbra]

the office is pretty nice

and easy to get to with the public transportation

and as long as your not living super close to the uni. rent is really affordable

[topaz linden]

Non remote > remote for internships imo

Idk about full time

[frozen umbra]

agreed. Thats also my experience with my internships

[placid dawn]

job > no job

thats my experience with my unemployment

[worn moss]

Free food + work from home option >>>>>>>>>>>

[gloomy nymph]

@tight gale is Zon remote

[tight gale]

my team is

[ornate sigil]

nice faang office > wfh > average mid office

imo

does anyone else feel like wfh kinda erases the boundary between home and work? i felt that sensation at one of my internships during the pandemic

[vivid fiber]

I jus put an alarm 4 wen my wrk hrs r dun and turn off notifs

[ornate sigil]

it was the opposite for me tbh

literally couldn’t stand being in my work room anymore

idk how u do it

i enjoy going to the office

ya i wouldn’t wanna do it for ft

what’s wrong w that

that’s fair

i just want my home to be a home yk

couch, flatscreen, nice food

about to be ng

did 5 interneships

2 out which were full remote

and 1 hybrid

[shy lintel]

Is it possible to do US internships remotely from Canada now?

[oblique crater]

loving remote work rn, but I do want hybrid in the future

or if full remote I want my own office in my house

[ornate sigil]

hybrid is nice

I did it at Amazon

couple days from home, or go to office in the afternoon w/o a schedule

offices were empty at the time, and it was a super chill vibe

[cursive blaze]

I felt this until I got a separate office room. Now it’s not bad. Before I working outta my bedroom and it was rough.

[ornate sigil]

maybe i wasn’t doing something right

[cursive blaze]

I still have yet to go to the office since starting my new gig , I really gotta go 😅

[cursive blaze]

Eh , I think it also depends on your team too? Idk. I enjoy a lot of like communication and chatting , and that’s tough to do unless your team encourages that a lot

I found that helps remote wise quite a bit

[ornate sigil]

the one where i got burnt out was a series B ish startup

the work was hectic

consistently putting out fires, pushing PRs, looking at datadog, meetings

just didn’t feel right doing all that from home

[cursive blaze]

Ahhh yeah that can be rough for sure. See I was the opposite and got burnt out at my last job from lack of things moving quick.

& my team didn’t really have a great remote culture

[ornate sigil]

that can be frustrating too, even more so at the office

sitting at the office not doing anything is the worst

[cursive blaze]

Also was working outta my bedroom at the time which after a year+ it was getting to me

[ornate sigil]

yea

that’s real rough

[cursive blaze]

True. This isn’t fun either.

I plan on going into the office next week for the first time 🤣 some folks in my city invited me for like weekly doughnuts or something. So that’ll be nice to finally see it.

[ornate sigil]

oh that’s cool, enjoy it!!

[cursive blaze]

Yeee! Gotta make friends outside of my team as I’m the only one in my city xD

[ornate sigil]

Canada?

[cursive blaze]

Yessir

My teams like half in Vancouver, half in Ontario

[ornate sigil]

sounds about right haha

my team was exactly the same @ amz

I relo’d to van

[cursive blaze]

Ahhh nice. I’m in Calgary. I think I wanna eventual relo to van just to try it out for a couple years

I’ve visited and it’s a fun city

[ornate sigil]

Van is nice

I like the mountains and the food is tasty

[cursive blaze]

Yeah mountains are similar ish here but the food is awesome in van.

Sushi is great

[ornate sigil]

Im going there soon for a week and a half

[cursive blaze]

To Calgary?

Or van?

[ornate sigil]

van

only been to calgary on a layover

:/

[cursive blaze]

Ahh nice & Calgary is only really fun if you have a car

Transit ain’t great

[ornate sigil]

are you a ft or intern

[cursive blaze]

FT

I’m a year out of school

[ornate sigil]

what’s the longterm plan

[cursive blaze]

Not sure yet tbh. Only a month or so into a new job and so far enjoying it quite a bit

Ideally try out van in a year or so

Waiting on the gf to get her PR

[ornate sigil]

cool, best of luck !!

[cursive blaze]

Thanks you too!

[ornate sigil]

[steel escarp]

calgary transit > ottawa

[cursive blaze]

Really?? 🤣

[steel escarp]

ye bruh

[steel escarp]

you know like sometimes calgary buses are canceled and they sent another bus to pick up passengers?

in ottawa if a bus is canceled then its gone

and usually when i look at the transit app and it said the bus would come in 5 mins

it actually means it would come in 10-15

LOL

[cursive blaze]

Sheeeesh now that’s rough

Ottawa really setting a low bar for transit

I’ve lived in Edmonton too and transit there is meh unless you’re somewhat central

Then it’s not terrible

[steel escarp]

Yeeee lol

Calgary transit is nice

Not too of a traffic jam like vancouver

But not too much delay like ottawa

[gloomy nymph]

Ottawa public transport is TRASH

[steel escarp]

Fax

[worn moss]

Bro if u guys acc want nice offices

Reach dubai

No joke difc is acc sick

[ornate sigil]

too hot

[worn moss]

All fintech companies on one floor, free food for mine atleast, bunch of restaurants right under, 5 mins from main city, salary looks good

[oblique crater]

dubai is nice for business, not super great for living

[worn moss]

okay yea ngl

I go outside and I feel my skin burning

[oblique crater]

food, hotels, travel and work are top notch

[honest tulip]

also 40 in the summer

but nbdlol

[ornate sigil]

i’m from the north

i hate the heat

hope cali is nice, last time i been there it wasn’t necessary scorching cuz it was humid

bay area specifically

[frozen umbra]

We’re gonna die

[ornate sigil]

💀

global warming

[stark patrol]

so far ive only been taking the train in Calgary but IMO Ottawa Transit>Calgary transit

so location dependent tho

as in where you are in the city, some parts just get neglected and same for OTT

[steel escarp]

Well for train maybe because ottawa has more trains

But for busses

Nahhh

[placid dawn]

apple

[ornate sigil]

any ‘murica lovers

[frozen umbra]

we're both murica lovers

[ornate sigil]

🇺🇸 🦅 ❤️

[wicked pumice]

I'll helps 20 persons teach them how to earn $10,000 from the crypto market in 72hrs of trading duration. Dm me to partake in the free class. But you will give me 10% commissions when you received your profit, Only interested people should Dm me pls!

[ornate sigil]

plz help me. i’ve been investing into poocoin and i think it’s going to the moon 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀

[placid dawn]

lol

[cursive blaze]

See here’s your problem, you gotta be investing in shitcoin instead that’s going to the moon!

[ornate sigil]

i invested into liquidshitcoin2 and lost 17k but the white paper had a lot of rockets 🚀🚀🚀🚀 and moon emojis 🌛🌛🌛🌛so i believe it’s gonna get to $0.001 soon

[frozen umbra]

Convocation today

Yee haw

[placid dawn]

what faangs are new to apply to

for canadians

[craggy moth]

only apple released apps recently

but those are US

[placid dawn]

i did that one

like the minute it was posted

[novel dome]

Is there a some sort of list of top tier canadian comp?

cuz i only know of Ws n Shopify

and who knows if those 2 will even survive till next summer

[oblique crater]

bruh fr, like shopify's product is pretty solid but that stock price is crazy

[novel dome]

just waitin for em to announce layoffs

[craggy moth]

Is it really?

I dont think the average person even knows what Shopify is

There net income was -1.47 Billion for Q1 2022

[vivid fiber]

Apple, Snap, Stripe, Wish, Instacart, Google, Amazon, Nuro, Facebook, Microsoft, Rippling?, Snowflake?, Yelp, Mozilla, Uber?

[worn moss]

Instacart isn’t like that it has terrible wlb

Didint know Uber is in canada

[novel dome]

ty

[vivid fiber]

They asked abt comp tho

[vivid fiber]

I know an alumni who's a senior swe at Uber

No clu wat comp is, I'd assum its competitive tho

[vivid fiber]

Ya tru, but the avg person doesn't know what Stripe is either

[dark lintel]

Is there a way to see what teams google Canada have

[vivid fiber]

I think they have the Chrome team here

[dark lintel]

🙏

Btw shopify Canada new grad doesn’t even pay that much

It’s around 100k if I remember correctly

While strip pays around 250k

[worldly ridge]

100k base?

why do they pay quite low

[dark lintel]

No 100k tc

90k usd

117 k cad according to levels

[worldly ridge]

whoa that is quite low

[frozen umbra]

From what I remember, stripe pays more in equity, and they haven’t ipo yet so their tc is inflated. But yeah shopify pays low as fuck

[ornate sigil]

amazon is high

new band is 150

ish

[karmic swan]

anyone here get the Google new grad 45min technical interview?

i was wondering if their questions are similar to OAs

[storm stream]

which 45 min interview?

[karmic swan]

new grad first technical interview

[dark lintel]

Is it new grad 2023 ?

[dark lintel]

That makes sense.

[karmic swan]

yep

well, i think so

lemme see if i can find the position

only have the link in french, but yeah basically new grad position
https://careers.google.com/jobs/results/81280149586092742-dveloppeur-logiciel-dbutant/?src=Online%2FLinkedIn%2Flinkedin_us&utm_campaign=contract&utm_medium=jobposting&utm_source=linkedin

[dark lintel]

That seems like 2022 new grad

[storm stream]

"Possibilité d'entrer en fonction en 2022"

[vivid fiber]

Ya it's 120k tc I think

Cad

[tight gale]

stripe ng is 250k cad?

[dark lintel]

Yeah

Instacart and Nuro are all 200k+

New grad Canada

But that’s including paper stonk options

What’s the pay for ng g Canada?

[tight gale]

interesting i thought my offer was good lol

but 250k is insane

[dark lintel]

I saw someone on levels say it’s 170k cad

Is it true

[dark lintel]

Yeah but paper money though

[tight gale]

true i gues you gotta pray they make it

[dark lintel]

Yeah

[storm stream]

~140k according to levels

[dark lintel]

Hypothetically how does Nuro ng compared to google 🍁

[dark lintel]

Cad?

[storm stream]

Yeah

[dark lintel]

Bruh

I saw levels say it’s 130 k usd

[tight gale]

amazon is 150k for non return?

so 140k is not bad

[dark lintel]

Yeah

[storm stream]

What is it for return?

[dark lintel]

G should pay more than zon no

[tight gale]

160k for return

[storm stream]

Oh wow...

But I don't wanna return

[tight gale]

187k for industry

[dark lintel]

What’s that

[tight gale]

industry sde1 pipeline 4x60 interviews

[storm stream]

industry hire is like 1 yoe

[tight gale]

vs like student asp pipeline

[dark lintel]

When does Canada apps start

[tight gale]

nah i did industry

[dark lintel]

I only have us timelines

[storm stream]

industry straight out of school?

[tight gale]

yes

recruiter who i talked to was for industry so i started that process

[storm stream]

Oh nice? How do you avoid asp pipeline?

Ohhhhh sick

[tight gale]

you need to get industry recruiter

[storm stream]

That's niiiiiiiiiiiiice

[dark lintel]

How is Amazon experience

For ng

[storm stream]

What team you on @tight gale

[dark lintel]

I know it’s team dependent but how is it in general

[tight gale]

apollo

hopefully its chill or i jump

[dark lintel]

Your internship hasn’t started yet?

[tight gale]

its ft i start july

[storm stream]

It really is team dependent

[dark lintel]

I guess I will still apply and see what team I get then

[storm stream]

Only thing I can generalize I guess is the dev environment is really advanced and a lot of tooling is already pre made which is supposed to make things easy

I don't know what else to generalize tbh

[dark lintel]

That’s good to know

[storm stream]

Amazon culture is boring af lmao... you're lucky if you get a fun team

[dark lintel]

Does zon 🍁 allow full remote

[storm stream]

again depends on team lollll

[tight gale]

ive seen a few ng switch teams within like a week lol so thats always an option i guess

[dark lintel]

Zon pays more than g, that’s nuts

[storm stream]

I have to re-interview if I wanna switch teams as return

[dark lintel]

Time to rise

[storm stream]

G big time low baller smh

I think Zon is the highest base pay in Canada?

But not highest TC?

[dark lintel]

How much is the base

[tight gale]

yea base is up to 145k iirc

my base is 135k

[dark lintel]

I heard Nuro base might be higher

Might be 160 k

[storm stream]

@tight gale interview process for industry is still the same right?

[tight gale]

its 4x60 i had 1x60 behavioral, 1x60 OOD, 2x60 lc style

[storm stream]

Bruh for ng? wtf

[tight gale]

yea its only student pipeline thats 3x45 or 1x30

[storm stream]

worth

Did you interview anywhere else?

[tight gale]

im waiting for google USA hc results

[storm stream]

[steel escarp]

Teach me how to be as gud as u

[vivid fiber]

Nah u can nego up to 180k

[tight gale]

alot of it is rng but doing b75+tagged should be good for anyone

[storm stream]

Teach me how to land blackrock like u

[steel escarp]

Is zon industry interview lc med?

[steel escarp]

How do u know i interviewed w blackrock 👀

[storm stream]

their stock mooning... no other explanation

[steel escarp]

Failed miserably after passing the oa

[dark lintel]

It’s luck

Zon interviews

[tight gale]

all interviews are rng lol

[vivid fiber]

My friend got an lc hard

[storm stream]

Zon interviews just memorize LPs.... they legit love that shit

[dark lintel]

I got easies all the way while other people got hards and meds

They didn’t even ask me LP

[vivid fiber]

My friend mentioned one of the lps

[steel escarp]

Ooo i have gud personality

I swear

[vivid fiber]

And the interviewer str8 up said not to do that

💀

[storm stream]

what?

why

was he reaching

[vivid fiber]

Ya the guy said not to name drop it

[steel escarp]

Thats an incoming pip attitude

[storm stream]

LOOOOOOL

[vivid fiber]

Nah not rlly

Guy also took out his phone

And asked an lc hard

So my friend just had bad rng tbh

[storm stream]

💀

[vivid fiber]

If I got an lc hard while interviewing at Amazon I would've failed

I got like a medium/ez

[storm stream]

I got medium and didn't even get optimal 💀

[steel escarp]

U got snappppp

U slap in their face

Ezpz

[tight gale]

got a dp hard for google but i prayge

[vivid fiber]

Ya, but when I interviewed at zon I was shit

At lc

[storm stream]

Google be dropping DP left and right these days wtf

[vivid fiber]

Same with Snap 😭

[storm stream]

smhhh

[steel escarp]

Only amazon is gud

[vivid fiber]

The asked me a string dp q

[steel escarp]

They dont drop dp hard often

[vivid fiber]

Msft too afaik

[steel escarp]

Ppl said msft is easy-med

The hardest part is passing their resume screen

[storm stream]

when I first tell my family I work at Amazon they be like oh yeah we saw the new warehouse on the highway

[steel escarp]

🤣

[storm stream]

💀

[tight gale]

ive only been ghosted by MS

[storm stream]

MS resume screen makes no sense

[vivid fiber]

My cuz thot I was a truck driver 💀

[frozen umbra]

ive been ghosted by MS

and amazonn

[storm stream]

Is LinkedIn same ghosting as MS?

[steel escarp]

Same

[frozen umbra]

Probably

no clue

[steel escarp]

Did u ask the ex stripe girl for referral?

She was a senior at msft lol

[vivid fiber]

Linkedin is one of my top companies I'd like to work for

[storm stream]

LOL I should

[steel escarp]

Yeee shes in instacart now

Gogo

[storm stream]

Same... OP pay and sounds chill af whenever I read about them

[steel escarp]

Then refer me

[storm stream]

Bruh I'm shy... even tho we zoom'd together

[steel escarp]

Why?

Just message her

[storm stream]

should I get instacart referral or MS?

[steel escarp]

Not zoom

[steel escarp]

Both

[storm stream]

What if you end up in some shitty C# product

😴

[steel escarp]

Then u can work for calgary unity 👀

[storm stream]

Nice... and make as much as Neo ng?

[steel escarp]

Double

🤣

[storm stream]

2x40k

[steel escarp]

Sounds legit af

[tight gale]

has anyones perception of TC been like tainted

like 100k is way above avg for new grad but when i see it im just thinking 🥜

[storm stream]

Fuck it's so true 😂

I was talking to a mechanical eng friend

10 YoE

Makes 60ish/hour

And he's like... RICH RICH

[vivid fiber]

Nah

[storm stream]

we gotta chill

[vivid fiber]

I'll still b applying to 80k jobs

[storm stream]

yeah as plan C or D

[steel escarp]

80k job is my plan A

👀

[vivid fiber]

Well return offer ain't a guarantee

So I'll apply everywhere until I get an offer

[steel escarp]

Janestreet is my backup plan

[vivid fiber]

Then I can b more selective

[storm stream]

I wanna go as far accept multiple offers

and then renege

[vivid fiber]

Dam fr? R u interning there rn?

[steel escarp]

No

[storm stream]

everyone rescinding these days smg

smh

[steel escarp]

Just a joke

🤣

[tight gale]

ohh backup yea that makes sense, but after you land FAANG, would you still apply to 80k jobs in the future though? lol

[vivid fiber]

C i don't wanna do that, becuz I'd feel bad. I'm taking away jobs from other students.

[vivid fiber]

If I have a 100k+ job then no

But an internship aint ft

[steel escarp]

I mean if its a start up and i really believe in their products then why not

[vivid fiber]

For all I know I bomb every interview from now on

[storm stream]

Those students will get the job after you renege no worries