canada

[storm stream]

Curious what teams work in Edmonton

From LinkedIn I can tell it's some people who were previously in Cochrane which is where the Apple Maps team was

[oblique crater]

yeah there was a SWE II posting about a networking and low level programming position

not sure what teams that serves

[storm stream]

Interesting

Apple is so specific with their skill requirements

I'm all over the place

[cursive blaze]

I think they’ve had an office there for a long time iirc

But it was incredibly small

Like one team 🤣

Pretty sure it was a low level networking team or something like Rust/C dev work

Oh just seen u said that above xD

[oblique crater]

me too I’m not even really good at anything I just kinda know things in all different directions

[storm stream]

FML

[cursive blaze]

Pretty sure Microsoft has an office in Edmonton too

Think it was a OneDrive team there

[storm stream]

Bro whaaat

I love YEG

[cursive blaze]

Elastic has an office in yyc which could be interesting work too

[storm stream]

That's neat

[cursive blaze]

Yeah think they pay pretty well too

[vivid fiber]

Like elasticsearch?

[cursive blaze]

Yep!

There’s Deepmind in Edmonton too

[storm stream]

How are things at Snap?

[frozen umbra]

I heard snap hiring freeze

[storm stream]

Not surprised

[frozen umbra]

yeah not surprised, but RIP anyone whos going through their process rn

idk if it affect interns tho

[storm stream]

Crazy unlucky

[mild aurora]

snap down like 70%

[frozen umbra]

eyyy it went up, now its 14 USD

[storm stream]

Frick I should be maxing out my TFSA rn

Everything on sale

[frozen umbra]

I would do that... if I wasnt moving

[vivid fiber]

The stock, sad

The work, nice

[storm stream]

Are people freaking out or nah

[vivid fiber]

Ya def

The Q&A was wildin

[frozen umbra]

what was it like?

[storm stream]

Damn imagine like 30% of your TC getting slashed in half in just a day

Maybe more than 30% idk

[frozen umbra]

I can

The people at meta working before the drop had something like that

;-;

[storm stream]

[vivid fiber]

I didn't attend, but I heard it was hectic from another intern

[frozen umbra]

Must have been a lot of negativity

[vivid fiber]

Ya

[cursive blaze]

This is why cash is 👑

It’s good to treat stock as a bonus imo

[frozen umbra]

yup

Basically only budgeting off my base, everything else is going to investments

[oblique crater]

I wonder if senior offers right now will be more base and less stock since the stock is tanking

[shut hill]

Yo cool Pepe are you in Ottawa

[gloomy nymph]

I’m now in Toronto

[wide aurora]

For how long

[gloomy nymph]

1hr. I’m flying to Ottawa

[wide aurora]

Wait I thought you were already there lol

Where did u go

[gloomy nymph]

Visited my family in Mexico

[wide aurora]

Damn nice how long did u go for

[tight gale]

Come to vancouver instead

[gloomy nymph]

A month, did my finals down there

[gloomy nymph]

No money

[raw crystal]

are you from vancouver?

[tight gale]

Yes

[raw crystal]

I just signed an offer for Vancouver :p

[tight gale]

Are you outside my door now

[raw crystal]

not yet 😮

[tight gale]

[raw crystal]

hows the rent there downtown

I gotta relocate in a couple months

[left plover]

Amazon? 👀

[raw crystal]

yeah

[left plover]

It's yikes LOL

[tight gale]

No idea I live rent free

[raw crystal]

so ive heard

[raw crystal]

ah ok ok

[tight gale]

Just get parents that live here 4head

[gloomy nymph]

Can I come for a kith ?

[mild aurora]

can you explain the performance quota thing and the penalties?

i still dont understand what it is

[raw crystal]

is that PIP

I didnt start yet so I dnt have much idea about it

[mild aurora]

i think so

[raw crystal]

all I know is the bottom x% get put on PIP and fired if no improvement

smth about keeping the bar high

[placid dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/google-canada-canadian-canada-day-google-canada-gif-16699111

[storm stream]

2500 minimum for a shoebox

[eternal fossil]

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/collections/recommended/?currentJobId=3092784528

for my student folks

[subtle storm]

for summer 2022?

[subtle storm]

did they forget to change it before posting?

[eternal fossil]

Yeah guess they did

I saw that it was odd they were looking for students graduating this year and next

[subtle storm]

and the application link is for a position in NY

[eternal fossil]

Just checked their online postings, https://www.lifeatspotify.com/jobs/backend-engineer-summer-2022-internship

Odd that it was added 10 hours ago

:/

[subtle storm]

thanks!

[craggy moth]

maybe someone reneged?

[eternal fossil]

Very likely

Or background check didn’t clear

[subtle storm]

did it already open for fall before?

[craggy moth]

no

[novel dome]

Anyone done interview at Index Exchange

[novel dome]

ty ty

[tight gale]

Any canadians here move to usa for work ?

How long was TN visa process

[gloomy nymph]

@south rose

[gloomy nymph]

Our TN visa process is on standby until we get our diplomas

[south rose]

Still in the process what step and how long until you start

[gloomy nymph]

For me it’ll be next week

[tight gale]

no idea

[storm stream]

subs where you working

[tight gale]

but i have the seattle option

so i was wondering how long i would have to wait

[storm stream]

I thought you can get TN at the airport 😅

[gloomy nymph]

You can

If you’re Canadian that is

I have to apply for a visa first

[tight gale]

ahh i see

[south rose]

Goat app

[storm stream]

LOL nice

[south rose]

@storm stream

[storm stream]

hook me up with some pandas

[south rose]

Pandas basic

[storm stream]

me basic af

[south rose]

We only get free shipping still

No free shoes since we don’t own them

Idk kinda suss with benefits

I wanted some custom goat dunks

[storm stream]

Akh frick

That's true they just a marketplace...

Should still get a discount smh

[south rose]

What company

[tight gale]

amazon

[storm stream]

Bruh you got Amazon US offer?

🐐

[south rose]

Amazon has a legal team

They should help you

Do you have your degree ?

You can get your TN in a single day by visiting person airport or other class A port of entry

[tight gale]

yea

oo interesting

[south rose]

You just need to have all the documents

So this includes a physical copy or your degree, all the paperwork that should be provided by your employer

[tight gale]

recruiter said theres 2 months before i could wait if i choose seattle, like 1 month if i stay vancouver

[south rose]

Choose Seattle

You’re making a mistake by choosing Canada fr

[tight gale]

i havent chosen yet lol

[south rose]

Seattle trust

[tight gale]

is the difference that big though

[south rose]

Get paid USD

Yes

You want to be in the US long term for tech

[tight gale]

hmm true thanks for the input

[south rose]

Also make sure when you do the TN interview that you state that you’re just going to the US for work

You don’t plan to buy property/plan to immigrate. You will come back to Canada

Otherwise they will Deny on the spot

[tight gale]

ohh i heard about that

only h1b can declare that right

[worldly ridge]

what happens if you buy property there when doing work

are we going to get kicked out immediatley

I guess we are stuck with canadian real estate ?

[worn moss]

dont u have access to fc

from goat

like arent they partnered

or am i stupid

[south rose]

You can still buy properties

Just don’t tell them you are at the TN border

you can buy properties in the US as a Canadian

Without a visa

[south rose]

What’s fc

[worn moss]

flight club

[south rose]

Yeah we do

Since they own flight club

[worn moss]

y cant u get free 1s from there

that should be a benefit

[south rose]

It’s not sadly

Benefits are lacking

But pay is good

[worn moss]

if i can get free shoes from fc i would work for 50k

[south rose]

Sad there’s no 401k match but whatever

[worldly ridge]

what if they ask in the border

if you ahve any properties

[south rose]

Do you ?

[worldly ridge]

in the us next time u renew

nah just wondering

lol

[south rose]

Nah it’s fine

Just don’t tell the visa border person

Cause TN is a. Non immigrant status

So after apply to your h1b

And hope you get picked for the lottery

[worldly ridge]

im just gonna

mary soemone in the US

[placid dawn]

fr tho

[oblique crater]

anybody catch that oilers v flames game?

it’s absolutely nuts in edmonton rn lmao

[fickle juniper]

I didn't know u could win the cup after just the second round

[cursive blaze]

Man that goal was rough they called back tho

Don’t think Flames would’ve won the series but that should have counted imo

[fickle juniper]

I was pretty shocked that was disallowed

I honestly thought the flames were gonna roll the oil, I don't think they expected so much speed

[boreal sentinel]

speed kills

[oblique crater]

yeah the disallowed goal i’m not too sure about but you guys had no chance at 3-1 down

[fickle juniper]

Also as a nucks fan I was surprised how bad marky looked, ik he had a great yr but he absolutely carried us when we had him

Probably tired, idk

I wanna say the oil will get rolled by Avs/Blues but who knows lol

[cursive blaze]

Marky looked so bad this series

Apparently he let in 7 more goals than expected

But too be fair

Mcdavid and Drai killed us

Those two are so good

[oblique crater]

mike smith played better and that's saying something

drai was underrated the whole series, kane and mcdavid got all the focus and he was quietly assisting tons of goals

[cursive blaze]

Yeah he was super good

Honestly I think Tampa wins it again tho

[oblique crater]

Tampa is looking insane

[cursive blaze]

Can’t believe they swept Florida

[oblique crater]

the ECF will be tight

[cursive blaze]

Ye it will be

Maroon going for his 4th cup in a row

[oblique crater]

im curious to see if the avs are going to throw this 3-1 lead or if they'll close it out in the next 2

the game was all but won and they let the blues claw back in OT in game 5, could bite them in the ass

[flint willow]

Dang, lucky you. Was this student programs or are you coming in through another recruiter?

I started last week and Amazon wouldn’t budge with giving me a US offer.

Now my managers telling me they’ll only sponser after a year being L5 😐

[tight gale]

I want through industry route

[flint willow]

K that makes sense then

[tight gale]

Looking at compensation though

Staying home not paying rent might be better

[flint willow]

True, gotta factor everything in

US option might still be better tho

Especially when you level up and your compensation increases

[tight gale]

True sde2 difference might be bigger

[worldly ridge]

hi guys, has anyone here calculated the nubmers on wheter to put your money into a RRSP or a non registered account when your still in canada but plan to move to the sates after a year or two after full time experience?

[analog current]

comon

[storm stream]

Not TFSA?

[worldly ridge]

I maxed it out

I am now facing a decision between rrsp or non registered

[storm stream]

SHEEEEEEEESH

[storm stream]

you'll pay less tax when you withdraw from rrsp?

or non registered is capital gains tax?

which one is less?

[worldly ridge]

rrsp because ill withdraw when im old and make no income

non registered is captial gains tax

rrsp is income tax

[storm stream]

yee do RRSP

[worldly ridge]

but i will be taxed captial gains on my rrsp if i move to the states lioike NJ, cali, etc

💀

[storm stream]

bruh

[worldly ridge]

so i am so fkn confused

[storm stream]

american tax?

[worldly ridge]

yup

like if i do rrsp now, i can get tax return and re invest it

but ill be taxed on capital gains in the u.s

dude i dont wanna be an adult

this sht sucks

[storm stream]

stable coin

gain stake %

[worldly ridge]

💀

[storm stream]

😂

but whats your income tax if you live in us

canada income is 0?

[worldly ridge]

yeah

[storm stream]

so lowest tax bracket?

[worldly ridge]

i dont wanna pull out my rrsp though when im in the us

u lose contribution room

fi u pull out

i wanna let it grow till i old

[storm stream]

Oh then ya just let it sit in RRSP till youre 60

till he retires? hell naw 😂

oh yeah maybe

but he's coming back

for retirement

[tight gale]

Can you do tfsa and roth ira

Or is roth like for american citizen

But a canadian can do both while working there?

Who would tax it like the us government ?

Ahh how would they know since it would be held in a canadian bank

Ahh I see interesting theres so much things to consider when moving

[worldly ridge]

yeah only some states do like cali. but some like in nyc dont

[worldly ridge]

no its bet to withdraw tfsa before moving. u can look more into it

i havent seen wat the implications r foro non registered accounts, but maybe i can do non registered accounts n it will not be a problem

calculating if rrsp is benefiical in taxed states is a headache n sumtin i havent done

but bruh i dont want inflation in the next 2 years or so to eat up my chequeuing

💀

[tight gale]

I'm staying in canada at first

For the numbers I got it just made more sense because no rent if I stay with parents

So i will probably max tfsa

[storm stream]

might be worth talking to a per fee financial advisor

they might know some tricks

[worldly ridge]

dude our salary is so peanuts

i make more renting in the u.s than staying with my parents adjustied for living costs

i think canadian salary is going up though?

[cursive blaze]

It seems like it is

[fickle juniper]

It is but US is going up too

[worldly ridge]

yeah m n myf reidns were able to get offers > 100k

for new grad with no names

so I think its defo going up or we r just lucky

[worldly ridge]

i wish canada pays as much as US, would love tro stay here :l

[cursive blaze]

just work remote for a US firm

[worldly ridge]

theyll pay you in canadain payroll

which is lower

[fickle juniper]

Yeah same, problem is there’s higher taxes and the currency is a lot weaker too

[cursive blaze]

had a friend just get a full remote job from a US org and they're paying him is USD

155k USD base

in Canada

[worldly ridge]

yeah :l

[fickle juniper]

Which company? And is he a contractor?

[cursive blaze]

Sourcegraph

[worldly ridge]

hmm odd, people told me to get into the US because most companies will put you in CAD payroll

[cursive blaze]

and no ft employee I think

[worldly ridge]

meaning lower pay

[fickle juniper]

Wtf

Is he a new grad?

Are there new grad positions

[cursive blaze]

not a new grad but just wanted to throw that out there saying it is possible

have another friend at Doordash making 200k+ comp, FT remote in Canada

lot of those exist if you wanna stay in Canada

[fickle juniper]

Holy crap someone from my school interned/started new grad at sourcegraph

[cursive blaze]

yeah funny thing was I had some sales guy contacting my telus email constantly from there

trying to sell the product xD

did not appreciate that he was sending them unsolicited as I never gave out my email

[fickle juniper]

The thing is 200k in Seattle vs Canada u take home like 50% more in Seattle

[cursive blaze]

guys living in AB tho

bought a house for 400k

gl finding that in Seattle

[fickle juniper]

Ya but then I would have to live in AB

Jk I love AB in the summer

[cursive blaze]

yeah I mean like I still wanna probably move to Seattle/Vancouver at some point to live there for a few years

but AB is great to settle down

MUCH more affordable homes

[fickle juniper]

It’s crazy my roommates friend actually lost money selling his home when he moved to Van

[cursive blaze]

how tf

[fickle juniper]

This was a few yrs ago but he’d lived in AB in like 5 yrs

[cursive blaze]

ahh yeah

[fickle juniper]

This is Calgary

[cursive blaze]

during the downturn housing was dirt cheap

had a friend buy one up north and he's made like 200k+ off it

good ol oil towns

• the one thing I really like about Canada is it's relatively similar between each province I find the states in the US can be quite different

which can be a pro and a con

• guns are way too common in the US

imo at least

[fickle juniper]

The gun thing is really scary honestly

[worldly ridge]

yueah mainly why i hate going to the us

TH E GUNS

IM GONNA GET SHOT ISTG

[cursive blaze]

it is, shootings happen regularly it's insane

[worldly ridge]

its so much nicer here

i dont feel scared going out

[cursive blaze]

yeah can't walk into a walmart and buy an AR 15 here

don't know why the US won't some basic licensing and shit

[worldly ridge]

$$$

[cursive blaze]

here we have to take a course, and all that & STILL you won't be able to buy a prohibited weapon such as an AR 15

[steel escarp]

I thought calgary house is like 500-700 average now

unless u live far from dt

or the uni

[fickle juniper]

A Calgary HOUSE?

[steel escarp]

obviously its not a vancouver house

u can prob buy a 1 bedroom apartment

with 500k in van

[fickle juniper]

2 bedroom condo presale nowadays in Van suburb is 700k

[cursive blaze]

More central yeah, but in the burbs that would be a pretty big house

[steel escarp]

how much do u guys usually put up front for a downpayment in canada?

for housing

i heard its like 20%?

[cursive blaze]

Uhhh first time home buyers it’s 5% I think iirc

Up to 500k

[steel escarp]

hmmm

dont u have to pay extra for some kinds of insurance if u put less than 20%?

[cursive blaze]

Yeah I think so

But there’s also that new tax free home buyers account for saving coming next year I think

[steel escarp]

sick sick

[cursive blaze]

8k a year up to 40k max total

[steel escarp]

time to save money to buy a house

uwu

[cursive blaze]

Acts as basically an RRSP AND TFSA combined

[worldly ridge]

ur american ya

[steel escarp]

no

[worldly ridge]

planingt o live in ca?

[steel escarp]

🤣

[worldly ridge]

😮

cad?

[steel escarp]

im asian

👀

[worldly ridge]

ahh international

i c i c

[cursive blaze]

I’m big on AB in Canada xD so I am biased

[steel escarp]

I think AB is cool

I just hate the -30 in the winter

and boomer oil companies

🤣

the rest is cool

[cursive blaze]

Yeah 100%

More tech companies keep popping up here

Which is good for DT

[steel escarp]

ye gotta buy house asap

in case tech blooming and house price sky rocket

[worldly ridge]

dont think thats how it works

💀

[cursive blaze]

I think the market will cool off

Recession might happen

[worldly ridge]

its not because of us that the housing market sky rocketed

[steel escarp]

well technically we're not the main reason

but idk

[cursive blaze]

remote affected AB prices for sure

[steel escarp]

we will see i guess

[cursive blaze]

But I think it’s due to supply as well

We don’t have same building constraints

Just houses will be built further out from DT

[steel escarp]

they will have the green line

i dont really mind about living a little bit far from downtown

[fickle juniper]

Idk about other ppl but nothing can get me to live in -10 weather or colder

Calgary is amazing in the summer esp with the Rockies right there

[worldly ridge]

winter > summer

:3

id rather take -10 than 30c

[fickle juniper]

Oh then u would love Calgary

[worldly ridge]

haha

yeah ive been there, iw ish i can live there

[fickle juniper]

Where in Canada r u from?

[worldly ridge]

i live in ontario :c

[fickle juniper]

Ohh ic

[worldly ridge]

hbu?

[fickle juniper]

Van

[gloomy nymph]

That’s a big L

[worldly ridge]

ooo nice!

[gloomy nymph]

Im sorry

[worldly ridge]

ik man :, i live in the suburbs of ontario too!!

BIG L

[fickle juniper]

Only if ur a fan of hockey

[gloomy nymph]

I live in Ottawa

[worldly ridge]

LOL

[gloomy nymph]

Most boring city ever

[worldly ridge]

big L

[gloomy nymph]

Yup, it was ass

[frozen umbra]

If you say that

imagine living in waterloo

[fickle juniper]

Isn’t Toronto really nice?

[worldly ridge]

IM INW ATERLOO

RN

LOL

[frozen umbra]

Waterloo is worse lmao

[worldly ridge]

ITS ASS

but the student life makes it fun

i cant imagine lviing here permanentlythough

[frozen umbra]

Your probably only here for university

[worldly ridge]

yeah

[frozen umbra]

I lived here for my enitre life LMAO

[worldly ridge]

LOL

bro

i lived in oakville and burlington

its fkn ass

[frozen umbra]

Yup

[worldly ridge]

sure we have nice houses in oakville but its so ass

so boring

like its a great place for 99 year olds

💀

[frozen umbra]

Waterloo is boring for people in their like 20s-30, but I think its fine for people with families

[worldly ridge]

yeah a lot of sburbans r like that

i feel like a lot of 20-30s prefer downtown areas

too bad its soo fkne xpensive rn

[frozen umbra]

probably so they can meet people

If I was single, I would go to toronto so often lmao

[frozen umbra]

I mean toronto is fine, but its kinda dirty

Maybe its just the city life

[gloomy nymph]

I’ve never been to Toronto

I’ve been to Montreal and its meh

[fickle juniper]

Tbh Van nightlife is kinda ass. It exists but it’s just ok

[fickle juniper]

Are u in west coast?

[gloomy nymph]

Nah, east coast degen in Ottawa

[fickle juniper]

Is Ottawa far from Toronto?

[gloomy nymph]

6 hour train ride iirc

[fickle juniper]

Oh shit

I always thought it was way closer

[gloomy nymph]

Nah its actually kinda far

[fickle juniper]

Idt ive ever been to Ottawa

I’ve been to Toronto a few times

[gloomy nymph]

Boring gov city

It does have some nice scenery near the parliament

[fickle juniper]

Is it cheap?

[worldly ridge]

@gloomy nymph i went on vacation to otawa and it was boring

thats how boring otawa is to me

💀

[gloomy nymph]

Eh, idk actually. Montreal is cheaper imo for rent at least

[gloomy nymph]

Yeah its super boring

[fickle juniper]

Ohh interesting

Which Goog office is better Waterloo or mtl

[gloomy nymph]

Haven’t been to either

Ubisoft’s offices in Montreal look kinda neat

[fickle juniper]

Mtl also has Unity and Microsoft I think

Almost worked in Montreal this summer

[frozen umbra]

Uhhh

ive seen the google office

and its pretty nice here in waterloo

I remember when the google office was just a small place lmao

Now its like its own buildings and stuff

Never been to the montreal location

[fickle juniper]

Ohh icic

[frozen umbra]

I also know more people in google waterloo

so may cause more bias in me saying waterloo

[fickle juniper]

Goog fall has a remote option which is interesting

Cuz ik they don’t offer ft remote

[frozen umbra]

You can remote

But it depends on team

[fickle juniper]

Ohh ic

[cursive blaze]

Van night life is still 100x better than Calgarys lool

[fickle juniper]

I can imagine, I wouldn’t want to go out in -30 weather either

[cursive blaze]

It’s only -30 maybe 1 week of the year honestly tho. Probably more like -15

[fickle juniper]

Haha that’s fair, same difference to me tho

Honestly if it’s like <5 degrees it’s too cold for me

[cursive blaze]

I play hockey and snowboard so winter is a good time for me hahaha

[fickle juniper]

And if I see any snow I’m terrified to drive

[cursive blaze]

Winter tires baby

[boreal sentinel]

if toronto is dirty then waterloo is a landfill

ive lived in toronto for 16 years and ive never seen garbage bags on the sidewalk

a walk down on columbia st west and i saw multiple houses just toss their shit on the sidewalk

[frozen umbra]

… idk where you lived in Toronto, but when I lived there for coop, I saw so much garbage everywhere downtown.

[boreal sentinel]

ah downtown makes sense

i live in east york

[frozen umbra]

That’s like the suburbs of Toronto isn’t it

[boreal sentinel]

kinda its got suburb vibes

but pretty high density

lots of houses close together

[frozen umbra]

When your walking down Columbia street, you probably see the garbage bags out while waiting for the garbage trucks

[boreal sentinel]

no the garbage bags were out there for a week

[frozen umbra]

That’s the only time I see garbage bags out in my 23 years in Waterloo

[boreal sentinel]

or more

[frozen umbra]

They probably missed the garbage truck, and just left it there for a week

Your walking down the student housing area

[worldly ridge]

@frozen umbra u go to wlu or uw?

[frozen umbra]

I graduated

But uw

[frozen umbra]

Why

[wide aurora]

Fuck uoft

[worldly ridge]

aww

because we couldve played badminton

:(

[frozen umbra]

Ah lmao yeah

[worldly ridge]

u still in canada ?

or u planing to go to US

[frozen umbra]

Stuck in Canada for like 1 more month

Then leaving july 11

[worldly ridge]

WWWW

did u get 2 YOE here

[frozen umbra]

Which means I’m stuck in Waterloo for that time

Uhhh I just graduated from uni

So I didn’t get any yoe hat counted to full time

[worldly ridge]

ahh nice!!

im doing new grad n part time skewl hehe will be stck here for atleast a year

[fickle juniper]

Did anyone get a thinking ape?

[worn moss]

That’s a thing???

[fickle juniper]

Which company?

[worldly ridge]

yeah some companies odnt mind from my interviews

i told my recruiters idid aprt time skewl with my internships n they dotn care

[worldly ridge]

redacted

[worn moss]

What school allows part time CS tho?

[worldly ridge]

oh Im not in Uw

so I have flexivbility lol

Like Im not in any co op prgram too

[worn moss]

Idt wlu does it either?

[worldly ridge]

well ur allowed to do whatever u want

if ur not in co op

program

[storm stream]

I tried it before. 2 classes + full time. Barely passed and was miserable 🤣

[fickle juniper]

Idk about u guys

[storm stream]

Don't do it unless you really had to like me

[fickle juniper]

But I just aim for 50+ at this point

[knotty nova]

yessir

[left plover]

yessir

[storm stream]

Yeah same... Took GPA off resume this year

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[worldly ridge]

internship?

[fickle juniper]

Same

[worldly ridge]

or full time meployment

[left plover]

Momo what was it before again?

[storm stream]

It was a full time job

[fickle juniper]

I'm pretty sure I have a 3.5ish still

[worldly ridge]

my classes are chill

so thats why imd oing it

like its not hard cs courses

[fickle juniper]

But idt it helps or harms either way so I just take it off to save space

[worldly ridge]

but who knows

i might regret it

💀

[storm stream]

I was like at a 3.4?? It's probably 2.7 now?

[fickle juniper]

Holy crap what happened LOL

[worldly ridge]

how many hours were u putting in dam

[storm stream]

The year before I was 3.7

[left plover]

LOL I went from 3.7 -> 3.38 😂

In like a single semester, then it stabilized there

[storm stream]

Bruh I failed half my midterms in winter term

Was leetcoding everyday

For zon

[left plover]

^^

[worldly ridge]

LOL

[storm stream]

[worldly ridge]

BRUHJ

[fickle juniper]

Honestly thats the way anyway

Totally worth

[storm stream]

Yeah worth

Super high risk

But I was desperate for zon

[fickle juniper]

Are u graduating 2023 mr momo?

[worldly ridge]

oh @storm stream were u doing full time zon?

with skewl

MOMO WHY U MAKING ME DOUBT MYSELF

[storm stream]

Oh no no that was 3 years ago... Different company

No bro

[worldly ridge]

[storm stream]

It was a QA role

Fkn nightmare

[fickle juniper]

I'm doing GSoC with HubSpot this summer

[worldly ridge]

were u doing overtime

wtf

[fickle juniper]

I havent even started HubSpot yet and I'm struggling lol

[boreal sentinel]

whats ur gsoc project about

[left plover]

👀

[boreal sentinel]

also tech stack?

[fickle juniper]

I can dm u the link, its k8s/go/operator sdks

[boreal sentinel]

oh dm me bro 👀

oo go, ive always wanted to learn go

tryna get into backend

[fickle juniper]

Okay in a minute

[untold nebula]

Why you doing gsoc if you already have hubspot?

Just curious

[fickle juniper]

because I was really interested in the project for gsoc

I was going to contribute to the org anyway over the summer

also it works out really well time-wise because my mentors are in cest or ist

so if I get up at 4am EST i can be online most of the day when my mentors are

[worn moss]

But hrt

[fickle juniper]

im not really interested in quant or even swe at hft

[worn moss]

I want to acc maintain a good gpa but if I do now and not in later years it will be such a waste

[fickle juniper]

all else equal it's better to have a high gpa

the problem is usually you're sacrificing something else to maintain a high gpa

im not a genius so I actually need to try really hard to maintain a high gpa

when I'd rather focus on/do other things

[oblique crater]

high GPA is a scam in cs

[mild aurora]

not if you want to do a masters program and apply to waterloo so u can get those FAT internships

otherwise pretty useless

[steel escarp]

got 39 in my 441 final

i think it was the bottom 2 students in the class 🤣

[oblique crater]

applying for masters and getting internships??? just apply during undergrad bruh

[mild aurora]

waterloo job portal is so superior you cant match it with any other

[oblique crater]

if you're going to grad school just accept the fact that you will be poor

fair enough but you're playing the long game at that point

lower odds but you have more time to get internships during undergrad and after your first experience which is usually luck you'll land a couple of interviews

[fickle juniper]

loo job board is just unfair

even for this fall, so many more opportunities

[steel escarp]

isn't loo grad focused on industry as well?

like engineering stuff instead of research

[mild aurora]

i havent met too many people in my uni cs that had a job over 65k on their internships

[oblique crater]

really I know one guy going to grad school at loo and it's purely research type stuff

[mild aurora]

all the dudes that had good internships were software engineers

[steel escarp]

sadge i'm worried af rn

[oblique crater]

honestly me neither but they exist and if they put in the same # of hours as a loo student the discrepancy in offers isn't too crazy

[steel escarp]

even after my first 1 year coop

i didn't get that many interviews

as i expected

[oblique crater]

define that many?

[steel escarp]

hmm

[mild aurora]

i think you're underestimating the loo job portal

[steel escarp]

i got like 5-6 interviews / 300 app

[frozen umbra]

No

[oblique crater]

I got like 5 or 6 which isn't as high as I expected but higher than the year before

[untold nebula]

Anyone from Waterloo want to post what it looks like for fall?

[oblique crater]

okay same ratio

[steel escarp]

i expected to get like 10% interview/ non auto oa rate

so 30/ 300

[frozen umbra]

Uhh, there was Salesforce, meraki, yugabytes,

Snowflakes

[fickle juniper]

Uber is on there I think

[frozen umbra]

Amazon

Uber

What else from the top of my head

Datadogs

Snap

[mild aurora]

and they prioritize waterloo students puff

[untold nebula]

internal postings or scraped from LinkedIn?

[oblique crater]

not at all but I know people in my school that got google, Uber, HRT and other FAANG even though the avg # of internships is less than one, school name matters but it's not the end all be all

[mild aurora]

internal

[steel escarp]

i thought u said sf is hiring freeze

[frozen umbra]

Internal postings

[mild aurora]

they have connections with these companies

[untold nebula]

wtf

[frozen umbra]

It is

They posted

Then cancelled lmao

[fickle juniper]

companies have slots reserved specifically for Waterloo internships

[frozen umbra]

After people threw applications

[fickle juniper]

every season

[oblique crater]

off season internships I definitely get hiring from Loo

[fickle juniper]

Loo is truly OP

[steel escarp]

thats cringe lol

[frozen umbra]

Meraki did the same

[steel escarp]

bruh i'm shaking rn

i'll grad in jan 2023

[oblique crater]

it's all about that newgrad anyways

[steel escarp]

and the recession is coming

[fickle juniper]

isn't this pretty good lol

[steel escarp]

sadge

[knotty nova]

sadge

[mild aurora]

4 interviews 150 app

[oblique crater]

me too I'm praying for return offer and that the recession doesn't hit tech as hard

[mild aurora]

only went to 2 before i got a job

[steel escarp]

not really assuming i was a 4th year student with 1 year of exp

[steel escarp]

wya rn?

[mild aurora]

guys recession is opportunity

[oblique crater]

I start in a week but lululemon

[mild aurora]

just wait till they start printing money and we'll have jobs

[fickle juniper]

yeah if you're already rich/have a job lol

[steel escarp]

pretty dope

[oblique crater]

yeah im hyped, it's gonna be Java which is not optimal but job > no job

[steel escarp]

bro

java is dope

[mild aurora]

nice which location?

[steel escarp]

lots of companies are using java

[oblique crater]

remote

[mild aurora]

woo

[steel escarp]

afaik most of backend team at ibm using java

[oblique crater]

yeah it's valuable experience, newgrad is looking like it might be remote as well

[mild aurora]

do they pay above average?

[fickle juniper]

im pleasantly surprised at my fall callback rate, but also i've failed all my final rounds so far 😅

[oblique crater]

for intern not really, not sure about return offer

[dark portal]

our team uses node, and a team adjacent to us uses rails and go

[mild aurora]

can i ask hm

[steel escarp]

i mean product team 🤣

[dark portal]

ngl, i'd be so donw using java lol

[oblique crater]

wdym?

[mild aurora]

how much

[frozen umbra]

That’s good experience tho

[oblique crater]

oh 30/hr for canada

[dark portal]

lol my team is ibm cloud

[steel escarp]

i'm coming to toronto in july

u better run

🤣

[mild aurora]

thats pretty decent

[fickle juniper]

really hope spring is better idk

for number of jobs

[dark portal]

you down to hit up bars and clubs?

[mild aurora]

my toronto internship was 26

[oblique crater]

it always is

[dark portal]

@steel escarp lets hang out lol

[oblique crater]

most big companies just have less intern spots off season

[fickle juniper]

oh by spring I mean Jan

[steel escarp]

i'm down to hit up niagara falls

[oblique crater]

i'll be in calgary this summer

[steel escarp]

🤣

[mild aurora]

i'm in gta all year round

[steel escarp]

stampede it is

👀

[dark portal]

broooo... just watch niagara falls from like... youtube or some shit lol

[oblique crater]

never been i'd love to go

[dark portal]

night life is what carries toronto, and ngl it's not even that good lmao

montreal's is better

[fickle juniper]

Niagara is too touristy i think

[mild aurora]

ya niagara expensive as shit and mundane

[steel escarp]

remember to bring ur cowboy hat

[dark portal]

exactly lol

[oblique crater]

hot take but night life is overrated after like 2 years of going out

[dark portal]

montreal has truly won over my heart

[steel escarp]

idk what its cool about niagara fall

but my friends wanna go

so i was like why not

[oblique crater]

i don't own one but i'll invest

[mild aurora]

london night life is so fun

[dark portal]

the new language laws are bs, but im gonna try to get a remote job and relocate to montreal

[mild aurora]

im going back to the clubs

[fickle juniper]

depends how much you go out lol

[dark portal]

it is... unless you're going out with friends

[oblique crater]

once a month?

[oblique crater]

I live with my friends, it's a constant vibe at my place lol

[dark portal]

i'm going to kingston next weekend... in windsor rn

does anyone here live in kingston, and if so, what are some good bars / clubs to hit up lol

[steel escarp]

why montreal?

[mild aurora]

never been heard theres lots of pretty ladies

[dark portal]

ohh yeah.. then again, i only go out to clubs/bars around 5 - 6 times a month, so not too much

[dark portal]

damn... only if i had game

[mild aurora]

its like leetcode

the more u try the better

[oblique crater]

you in your partying phase for sure, i'll hit you up if I go to toronto this summer

[dark portal]

nah bro, women are initially very interested... and i even get quite a few matches in online dating (got tons in montreal), but as soon as i open my mouth, it's over

[dark portal]

for sure bro, but i'm planning on going to various cities throughout the summer

[mild aurora]

LOL same bro

idk what it is

[dark portal]

i'll be honest, toronto is not the place to pull or go out alot

[steel escarp]

really?

[dark portal]

it can be fun with your buddies

[steel escarp]

🤣

[dark portal]

yup

[steel escarp]

i thought night life in toronto is insane

ottawa night life is meh

[dark portal]

but if you're trynna pull, then try montreal or literally any other city

[dark portal]

bro toronto is brutal lol

[mild aurora]

it sounds expensiver

[dark portal]

i'll be honest fellas, i got 0 matches on bumble in the 3 weeks i was in toronto. Moved over to montreal, and got 10 matches in less than 3 days

[oblique crater]

dating apps give you a boost when you travel around

[steel escarp]

just hook up with some other interns in markham office

🤣

[frozen umbra]

Just date your classmate :>

[steel escarp]

there are couple of girls there

[dark portal]

i had the travel thing in toronto too, lol

[oblique crater]

it tapers off after staying there for a while

[mild aurora]

use hinge

[steel escarp]

in ottawa office there's no 0 girl

[dark portal]

nah bro i couldn't, Coworkers are an absolutely no-no for me

[steel escarp]

in engineering team

[oblique crater]

good idea ^, don't shit where you eat

[dark portal]

Unless, they're former coworkers. I dated a former co-worker for a bit when i was 18

this was just before the pandemic

[steel escarp]

why not

🤣

[dark portal]

good shit

[mild aurora]

Hinge nice

[oblique crater]

my class is 90% guys

[dark portal]

you're in london, right?

should i get hinge?

[frozen umbra]

Same

[oblique crater]

hinge is more relationshipy ngl

[mild aurora]

im in the gta but it's good in london too

[dark portal]

i mean... i'm not really looking for a ltr rn

[frozen umbra]

Just date one of the 10%

:>

[steel escarp]

wtf why would u talk about bash scripts to a girl

[mild aurora]

fuck im doxxing these girls

i just realized

[mild aurora]

she graduated from my program

[steel escarp]

[oblique crater]

you got lucky man, cherish it

[mild aurora]

i kinda like that cause im bad at pulling for one night stands

not quick enough

[dark portal]

i mean.. you can always date a girl from the liberal arts' lol

[oblique crater]

that's where it's at

[dark portal]

they outnumber the guys 100:1 or some shit lol

[frozen umbra]

Yeah I did. One day she’ll make more money than me

[oblique crater]

nursing is 80/20 at my school, I talked to this guy there, he's drowning in women

[dark portal]

or you could be like me and join a fraternity, but still not pull

[mild aurora]

gonna pull a catch me if you can and show up to classes there

[oblique crater]

pulling is overrated, find you a good girl and focus on school and job for now

[dark portal]

this right here ^

[oblique crater]

lowkey, imma get used scrubs off kijiji 😆

having general charisma is a good life skill to develop though

[mild aurora]

good for getting those nice promotions

and behaviourals

[oblique crater]

that for sure, but also talking your way out of trouble or awkward situiations

i love tech behaviourals, the bar is set really low so if you're just slightly above average and talk with some energy it sets you apart

technical rounds on the other hand 😅

[mild aurora]

my talk is bad but they still like me somehow lmao

[oblique crater]

can't be that bad

[worldly ridge]

find a sugar momma

retire from ur job at the age of 21

[tight gale]

It was 180 canada vs 190 us and i would have to pay rent/utilities/food if I moved

[worldly ridge]

180 usd in canada?

[tight gale]

180 cad

[worldly ridge]

oh 190 cad too

[tight gale]

190 usd

[worldly ridge]

ah yueah i would just hcill athome then

[tight gale]

Seattle

[worldly ridge]

241,724.65 Canadian Dollar

rent is what 1k per year?

idk i didnt cruncht eh nubmers

but i beleive you

[oblique crater]

moving is a huge hassle too

[frozen umbra]

1k??? Where can I find rent for 1k a year

[worldly ridge]

1k per month

LOL

💀

[oblique crater]

in seattle? no way

[frozen umbra]

Seattle is not 1k a month

[tight gale]

It's more like 2k-3k

[worldly ridge]

holy

[frozen umbra]

Seattle is more like 2k-3k

[worldly ridge]

nice

2k-3k with roomies?

[frozen umbra]

My friends paying like 2.4k

And he has a roommate

[knotty nova]

How much for no roommates? 4k?

[frozen umbra]

Tho it’s right next to the meta office, so he can save on meals

[tight gale]

Yea overall I just didnt think the difference was massive enough to move and leave family/friends

Maybe if I got like those massive 230k seattle offers lol

[oblique crater]

what place gave you 180 cad newgrad tho?

[frozen umbra]

Amazon

[worldly ridge]

thats cracked

180 new grad

[tight gale]

I went through industry

[oblique crater]

damn real nice

[oblique crater]

what does that mean?

[tight gale]

Normal pipeline 4x60 interviews vs 3x45 student pipeline

Yea I wanna negotiate for 200k

[oblique crater]

damn I see that's pretty crazy

[worldly ridge]

is it 180 base

oh whats the base

oh i thought it was 180 ase

base

excludign rsus

n all

i was gonna say wow canada faang pays decent

compared to us

still good though

yeah

[steel escarp]

does amazon refresh the sign on every 2 year?

[tight gale]

No

[worldly ridge]

HOW DO WE AVOID TAXES

[steel escarp]

they have the vesting plan for 4 years

but only 2 years for sign on

i guess thats why ppl hop after a year or 2 lol

[tight gale]

Hop to google for sde2

[frozen umbra]

It does

[tight gale]

Yea i would move then

[frozen umbra]

And google Canada down levels often

I mean google in general down levels

[tight gale]

The Tc difference widens as you go up

[storm stream]

what is a FAT internship? like hft?

then ya you right

[storm stream]

Google down levels so hard it feels like it's better to go there as ng

but they don't pay as much

[steel escarp]

like neo

[storm stream]

Neo tosses your resume if you're under 3.999/4.0

[frozen umbra]

If your going to academia yeah

[steel escarp]

bro neo is mass hiring now

in the recession

respect

[storm stream]

brain dead company 😂

[steel escarp]

they're giving ex-faang employee a chance

[storm stream]

imagine joining fintech in a recession

[steel escarp]

too gud

[storm stream]

I mean I'm desperate so I might

But imagine

[steel escarp]

do u think neo will give part time job to students?

👀

like actual swe

not standing in the middle of the mall thing

[storm stream]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

So if they pay full time swe 45k

Which is more than 2sig

[steel escarp]

sounds about right

[storm stream]

How much would they pay part time

[steel escarp]

they pay intern 15?

👀

[storm stream]

[steel escarp]

i swear they cannot pay less than 15 right?

its gonna be illegal

[storm stream]

legally...no

[steel escarp]

🤣

[storm stream]

[steel escarp]

thats insane

[tight gale]

What are fintech interviews like, lc style too?

[steel escarp]

for neo?

👀

[tight gale]

Yea or in general

[steel escarp]

well iirc for a valid fintech

its like leetcode hard + os/network/lowlevel stuff

for neo lc easy + shaking hands

[tight gale]

Shaking hands? 😳

[steel escarp]

ye bruh

gotta know how to shake hands

[oblique crater]

yeah if you don't give a firm handshake they don't hire you

it's a newly developed interview style by Neo architects

[serene jay]

I'm just gonna break their hand

[tight gale]

[steel escarp]

ur hired

ur starting salary is 15/hr

we only pay u 20hrs a week

[oblique crater]

the other 20 hours are volunteering

[steel escarp]

but we will give u the amount of work equivalent to 60 hrs

its all for the experience

[steel escarp]

no duh we dont take volunteer

we're a legit business

[oblique crater]

oh mb mb

[serene jay]

Finally, a job!

[fickle juniper]

Does anyone here have experience with Production Engineer shopify technical

It says I should bring a project related to the role I only have full stack stuff lol

[frozen umbra]

Just bring the OA project

Thats what a lot of people did

[fickle juniper]

But oa project was full stack, do u think thats okay?

For prod eng

[tight gale]

What are you all doing after tfsa is full, stocks?

[steel escarp]

I think rrsp?

[tight gale]

is that worth doing so soon?

thats for retirement right lol

[steel escarp]

Uhhh i think when u buy ur first house

[tight gale]

oo that can be used for that

[steel escarp]

U can use a portion from therr