canada

[rocky pendant]

i took a few core courses dt this semester

[worn moss]

ur at utsc?

[rocky pendant]

yeah

^

[worn moss]

ohhhhh ai yea idk it said on some website one sec

https://www.utm.utoronto.ca/registrar/enrolment/choosing/study-elsewhere#:~:text=Taking Courses at Other U,with your departmental advisor first.

"If you are a degree student, you may enrol in elective courses offered at another U of T campus."

i think this might be for utm only

tho ig

[worn moss]

what companies do u see on utsc's portal

[rocky pendant]

i only did 2 coop terms but i saw apple and tesla there

and google and fb

but this was 2018

its probably even better now

[worn moss]

any quants? 😭

[rocky pendant]

i wasnt really into quant stuff at the time

but my boy also from utsc did akuna/robinhood and now works at citadel

but idk if he got those from the portal

i mean if u think about it

who has a better coop portal? uw doesnt allow their students to do out of country coops anymore right?

i remember reading about that

[worn moss]

they do i have first year friends interning at cali this year

[rocky pendant]

oh nvm i might be wrong then

[frozen umbra]

They do

[rocky pendant]

k yeah i guess im just a dumbass

[frozen umbra]

Just wasn’t allowed before, but this term they allowed

Since Covid

[rocky pendant]

i remember reading about this on reddit

[frozen umbra]

Well yeah… cause it was during Covid

[worn moss]

UW's portal is acc insane for no reason these guys have JS and helllllla unicorns but like idk i gave up on getting insane marks so uw was out of the question for me for a while now but i grinded my ec's i have an internship lined up at RBC this summer, i worked at 3 startups, i have a bunch of side projects and ive done helllllaaa LC but now im realizing my school acc matters for grad school, and certain companies so im clueless on what to do

[frozen umbra]

Now that borders opened, they allow it

[wind notch]

Do you get to directly apply on there? Is that how uw works too? Mine would post like amazon or something and then post the separate job link to apply on their site. Like so much for connections

[rocky pendant]

depends on company

for apple they let u apply directly from the posting iirc

[worn moss]

from what i heard apple only hires UOFT and UW students for toronto campus and they hire SFU and UBC for vancouver

but companies like google, meta, amazon are known to not care about school

so i would assume theyre just linked to the portal but idk

[rocky pendant]

its possible their ATS just screens for school

i would say like look

UW and UOFT are definitely the top 2 in canada, its really not close

and you didnt get into uw tragically

so ure just picking between utsc and utm at this point

[worn vortex]

Trent is up there too

[rocky pendant]

honestly for 20k and a much shorter commute, utm looking tempting rn

[worn moss]

UTSC:
- 34k
- I have to live on res.....
- shit campus
- Good coop
UTM:
- 20k
- I can stay home save alottttttttttt of money
- good campus
- Non-existent coop

[rocky pendant]

i would not go so far as to say the utm campus is "good"

just much less shitty than utsc

[worn moss]

its pretty nice i mean i live nearby i go to the libary all the time

dk

[rocky pendant]

utsc and utm are both kinda commuter schools

[rocky pendant]

but yeah it comes down to this

[worn moss]

how worth is the coop like i "get the same amount of terms"(3-4 summers at UTM and 3-4 spit up at UTSC) cant i just land what's on UTSC"s coop board at utm

like i dont c how a portal changes things that much

cause most companies on portal(even at uw) just link u to a company and sometimes a company looks for certain schools so wouldnt i be at the same playing field at UTM cause theyre both just UOFT on resume

[rocky pendant]

i honestly have no idea how the logistics work

[idle cobalt]

does not really make difference imo. Just go what's close to your home. I think as a UTM student you can still do PEY.

[worn vortex]

Anyone know any good rental apartments in Vancouver? Or reliable websites to find apartments

[placid dawn]

any of u got amazon oa

[idle tulip]

Maybe Zillow

[storm stream]

rentfaster, fb, craigslist

[south rose]

Do not take uoft cs

@worn moss

Biggest mistake fr

You can dm if you want advice

[eternal fossil]

yes this

do not lol

if ure smart, take that talent elsewhere

[south rose]

Uoft is the biggest mistake a cs student in Canada can make

I would rank It

[worn moss]

Why

[eternal fossil]

they have POST lol

[worn moss]

Are u guys slandering uoft cs

[south rose]

Waterloo -> UBC -Ottawa - Carleton

No

You can dm I can give advice

[eternal fossil]

uoft cs has killed students

[south rose]

I’m graduating in a week have a bunch of friends in every school

[storm stream]

Don't you have to ace first year to get into UofT CS?

That's whack

[south rose]

Yeah

You’re not gurenteed cs

After 1st year

[storm stream]

lol fk that

[eternal fossil]

yeah u can try in 2nd year too

[south rose]

Not worth

[eternal fossil]

but yes not worth

[south rose]

It’s a low acceptance too

Very compatible

Competitive

I chose western over uoft cs

[eternal fossil]

i know people who were in CS upto third year where they were doing gender and women studies as their major because you have to declare a major or spec, and they were doing CS courses

and some people made it

small subset

where they applied for their spec in early 4th year

and even at that point youre risking sooo much

[storm stream]

that's dumb af

All for what?

prestige

[eternal fossil]

idk lol

[storm stream]

😂

[south rose]

Yeah a lot of highschool students mess up by picking prestige

If it’s not Waterloo it doesn’t matter pretty much

Up to you to get your internships

[eternal fossil]

i highly recommend anywhere where you can have a life outside of school

[storm stream]

me too me too

[south rose]

Also do not live at home

[eternal fossil]

its a underrated feeling when youre graduating and you look back at your 4-5 years and dont remember ANY good moments

just school

trash feeling

[south rose]

You won’t grow as a person living at home

Meet people who can help you

If money is a concern you’ll get grants

[dark portal]

That's brutal

In all honesty, I'd rather get an okayish new grad job but have a stellar social experience over a faang offer with a non existent social experience

(Without covid, that is)

You can always land a faang / unicorn later on, but you'll never get the ages of 18-22 back

[storm stream]

Facts... making lifetime friends/relationship > faang

[gloomy nymph]

Which I did not make here in Kanada

[storm stream]

why 😦

[gloomy nymph]

Well that’s a lie, in Ottawa at least

[gloomy nymph]

Cuz uOttawa is a degen school

I made some good friends in Calgary

[storm stream]

uottawa sucks... it's like a housing complex

so scattered makes no sense

[gloomy nymph]

Yeah and the student population is of the worst quality lmao

[worn moss]

Okay but like if I go to Carleton a lot of stuff will just automatically be blocked like out of the question and unachievable(for example I can’t get into JS or citadel and a bunch of select companies, and I can’t get to a good grad school etc) doesn’t that make the stress worth it? @south rose @eternal fossil

[dark portal]

Bro, no it won't

Yo I go to windsor brother

[worn moss]

And POST isn’t thaaat hard like it’s doable u need an 80 in intro to CS and 73 in Intro to Proofs and a 3.3 cgpa

[dark portal]

Which is the definition of a dogshit school

You can get into JS after you get some faangs

[worn moss]

Do yk any1 who did

[dark portal]

@worn moss BTW, Carelton has some pretty big names hiring right out of it

My friends knows someone who went to McMaster and then got into JS

Also, knows someone who goes to U Alberta and got into JS

It's possible from Carelton

Carelton is a pretty decent school

[worn moss]

I couldn’t find one person who went to a non target and got a big hedge fund or a good grad school so if u can show me otherwise thatd kinda change things(I’ve seen a mac kid get citadel but that’s abt it)

[dark portal]

Okay well there you go

Mac is not a target school

[plush rune]

heard cit is the amazon of HFTs btw in terms of getting in

idk how accurate that is

but ye

[dark portal]

I know a chick from U Windsor who got into UIUC and then Citadel

@worn moss maybe you can start off at citadel and work your way up

[worn moss]

Irdc abt citadel specifically my end goal is prolly startups where I acc have control over my work but like I just wna make sure that I’m not blocked from certain things cause of my uni

That’s the decider for me

[storm stream]

my goal is six figs working four days

[frozen umbra]

You won’t be blocked based on uni… but you’ll have an easier time with some unis to get into some places.

[fickle juniper]

Go to the best school you can afford

[eternal fossil]

I got an OA from HRT and I went to ryerson

[storm stream]

youre cracked

[eternal fossil]

I didn’t even apply to citadel or anywhere else

It’s just not for me you gotta be cracked to get into those jobs

[eternal fossil]

I wish

[fickle juniper]

Does HRT screen for gpa??

[eternal fossil]

No I don’t think so

[fickle juniper]

I think cit is out for me bcuz of my gpa

[worn moss]

my cheapest option is UTM but every1 ive talked to is against uoft lol

[eternal fossil]

I don’t remember putting my gpa on there

[fickle juniper]

Why??

Sorry I didn't see the message history

[worn moss]

next after that is ryerson cause its commutable and after that carelton cause they offered me big $

[worn moss]

POST

u need a certain avg to get into cs after first year

for UTM

its

[fickle juniper]

Ohhh icic

[worn moss]

80 in intro to cs

and 73 in proofs

and 3.3 CGPA

[fickle juniper]

Is that hard? Seems a pretty low bar for cs

[eternal fossil]

Ryerson school work is same as or almost UOFT and they also don’t test you as hard as uoft

[worn moss]

20-30% of students make it

[fickle juniper]

Ohh icic

[worn moss]

its generally hard

[eternal fossil]

This

It’s a money grab

Ryerson is a second place for uoft cs folks

Anyone who didn’t make into post goes to ryerson lol

[worn moss]

idk im kinda confident i can but like its too big of a risk to take esp when ppl are telling me its not even worth

[eternal fossil]

There are so many ex uoft students

[worn moss]

after making it

[storm stream]

go to a guaranteed program

[eternal fossil]

This

[worn moss]

bro my biggest problem with ryerson rn is it has no math courses

like u take 3

overall

[storm stream]

what is this first year requirements bs

[storm stream]

whats teh issue

[worn moss]

i want meth

[eternal fossil]

It does ??

I’m doing a math minor

Or I finished it

It’s good

What do u wanna do in math my boy

They got discrete maths

[fickle juniper]

Imo assuming you'll get into cs UofT > Ryerson/Carleton

[worn moss]

thats accc proper

[eternal fossil]

They got ODE calc

[fickle juniper]

So in a perfect world I'd do uoft

[storm stream]

you can take as many math classes as you want dude... youll have plenty of option classes

or do a minor

[eternal fossil]

Partial differential calculus

Numerical analysis

I feel like ryerson math courses are somewhat more

they got image analysis

Cryptographic math

[worn moss]

u take any combinatorics, stats, or cryptography classes

[eternal fossil]

Crypto yes

Stats yes

[worn moss]

how hard is it to minor in math

[eternal fossil]

So sta256 and sta258 of UOFT equivalent is at ryerson too

[fickle juniper]

U can learn math online lol

[eternal fossil]

Then you have stochastic processes

Which is one up from sta258

[worn moss]

u can learn everything online

but u still go to school

[worn moss]

@eternal fossil do u need like a certain avg?

[eternal fossil]

nope

[storm stream]

c-?

[lucid berry]

c--

[eternal fossil]

ryerson also has math courses that are graduate level too so as an undergrad u an enroll in them, and the prof teaches bro undergrad and graduate but undergrad assignments are a bit easier like maybe one or two questions less

i took a course like that it was called computational complexity

and i took game theory

good courses imo

game theory was hard af but i enjoyed it i hope i get a 70

i have notes for all of these said courses

if u wanna take a look at how theyre taught

so HRT and citadel all care for your math a lot

hence why i took them

but one thing most people who apply at these places dont understand is that u gotta be cracked to get them

so you gotta study outside of the course work ANYWAY

i also did interviews at akuna capital

another chicago based quant firm

[worn moss]

tbh idrc abt like outcomes im just genuinely interested in math mainly like cryptography, NT and combinatorics and like when i saw ryerson's courses compared to carleton i heavily leaned towards carleton

[eternal fossil]

rest assured they dont care which school u went to and what ur gpa is

[eternal fossil]

yes go to carleton too

but my point was that uoft isnt the only place with good math courses

i know ry becaues im here so i was able to speak of that and tell you how i was able to land interviews at hedge funds

[wintry linden]

Not really, you'll get asked a basic coding question where you just need to show that you can actually code / think through a problem. Itll start with a simple problem, and will progressively get more complex at each stage. It's pretty straight forward

[worn moss]

yea fs that acc cleared up helllla ty for all the help i appreciate it

[storm stream]

@eternal fossilwhats your resume like? I knew youre cracked

[eternal fossil]

no im absolutely not

1 year coop at thales

4 months at blackberry for kernel dev coop

[storm stream]

Respect tho for getting hft interviews

probably your kernel exp eh?

low level

[dark portal]

how is creating an os in c++ for a side project?

[fickle juniper]

I'm saying don't worry about taking certain courses unless u need it for a specialization or masters/PhD

[frozen umbra]

Sounds like something you’ll do in your os course

[dark portal]

i havent taken os yet, lol

[storm stream]

game companies will like that very much

[dark portal]

ahh i see

[dark portal]

what about making an os in rust

like... i'ma be honest with you i dont get the point of having rust on the backend, if we already have go

[storm stream]

companies that use rust will like it lol not too sure

[dark portal]

for some reason rust is really popping though

[frozen umbra]

Well, as long as your able to tell them the trade offs, and why you choose the methods you did

It should be ok

[dark portal]

ahh i see

[frozen umbra]

But really tho, this will be done in your os course

So aka, kinda feels like a school project

[dark portal]

bro the os course at my university is very theoretical and not taught that well

[frozen umbra]

I’m sure you’ll have lab, where they ask you to implement stuff of an OS

If you really want to do a side project

Do something that you would use

[dark portal]

Lol I always end up loosing motivation in the end

[frozen umbra]

But I haven’t done a side project ever

[dark portal]

That amount of side projects that I've started, but haven't completed is astounding lol

[frozen umbra]

I only have like hackathon projects on my resume and they’re like 2-3 years old

[dark portal]

I feel as if side projects are only worth it if you're trying to learn a new language / framework / technology

[frozen umbra]

Or if your trying to get into a new field.

[dark portal]

For example, if you have 2 previous internships in Python, then it doesn't make sense to make a rest api with flask (if you've previously used flask in one of your internships)

[frozen umbra]

But seriously tho. If you have a good amount of internship experience, unless you LOVE coding or doing side projects, there’s no need to do more

And sounds like you have a lot of unfinished projects, just finish thos rather than making an OS project

[eternal fossil]

yes you should build an OS in your off time

key advice from my mentor at blackberry

no cap

it sounds like im memeing but im really not, he told me to do it on a rasppi

gets you hands on experience on main kernel components

alot of the HFT places want low level experienced people because it tends to mean you know whats happening with each piece of code

right down to machine code level

[storm stream]

That's facts... I see ostep recommended all the time for hft interviews

[eternal fossil]

it makes sense

u dont wanna risk millions of dollars on infrastructure that could fail if you were negligent

[dark portal]

Ayy yo

I just finished my term at BlackBerry this Friday lol

[eternal fossil]

howd u like

i have a friend of mine finishing a crypto dev internship at BB

rust backend

he doesnt like rust to say the least

[storm stream]

BB does crypto?

Like the coins or the encryption? 😂

[eternal fossil]

Encryption sorry

Cryptography

Is what I meant

[storm stream]

lolol ya I figured

[plush rune]

HRT oa was auto

[eternal fossil]

ooooh ok i didnt know that, just put some temp words in ur resume n hopefully u get automated

[plush rune]

yea

[fickle juniper]

idt go is an alternative to c/c++/rust

for example there is garbage collection in go, so it won't be as efficient as c

[fickle juniper]

woww was this a core course you have to take? Or like an option?

cuz at UBC there is a course where you implement a toy OS but it's a 4xx or master's level course

and our core OS course we don't implement an OS. and our prof used to teach the same course at Harvard

[dark portal]

I know another intern who worked as a rust dev

Did his name begin with a T?

[dark portal]

It was nice

I'd go back

[frozen umbra]

Core

[dark portal]

Yo bro

Take this video down for now

I know the chances are practically 0% of it actually happening, but you don't really want to put up a video of how your interview went, before you actually get an offer (at least that's what I once saw online)

[fickle juniper]

Best is to always assume u didn’t get it and keep interviewing

[old ferry]

i never got it

[peak finch]

Thanks for the tip. I will wait for the result then.

[dark portal]

Yo I know this seems like a weird ass question, but for those of you who do mma / bjj / kickboxing, do you guys know any good mma schools in the Toronto area (mainly grappling / wrestling)?

[eternal fossil]

youre a legend for this but yes hes right, take it down to not hurt ur chances

[dark portal]

Lmao I see that you're up at this time, too

[eternal fossil]

I messed up my sleep schedule because of exams so this is my of fixing it lol

I finished em Friday so I gotta get back on track

[dark portal]

Lol a week from now I'll have to wake up at 5am and be asleep by 9pm

[steel escarp]

I tried to reschedule my sleep but it usually last for a week lool

Then my sleep schedule went back to 5am - 12 🤣

[dark portal]

lmao i used to take 1 - 2 hour naps during my blackberry internship every single day, because i found out it was an automation / testing role 3 weeks into the internship

it was sad ngl

but i still ended up performing up to expectations

lol

[dusky lintel]

hey all, any new grads complete the amazon vancouver 30 minute final interview recently?

from what i've read it's either going to be OA2 coding review or LP + leetcode easy/medium coding

i'm hoping it's just OA2 review but maybe I should just grind until the interview?

[flint willow]

Hey, I had it, I just had a review of my OA1 (the two hackerrank questions)

It’s just a code review, they wanna make sure you wrote it and you understood what you wrote

Explain time/ space complexity and your approach

That’s basically it

It takes like 5-10mins, the remaining time you can just ask questions about Amazon to the interviewer

[dusky lintel]

Thanks guys, if all works I’m pretty excited

[storm stream]

You got this you're CRACKED

[dusky lintel]

Is it normal for the interview dates they offer to be more than a week out ?

[dusky lintel]

Wait aren’t you in Tams history class LOOOOLL

[storm stream]

LMAO yeah dude

😂

Small world

Not specific to that interview... but my interviewer just just chatting in general they really care about scale, and how candidates think about how code handles big amounts of input/data/etc.

[storm stream]

So have some solid time/space complexity explanations

[storm stream]

💀 💀 💀 😂 😂 😂

[late lichen]

Coinbase just posed a front end grad position fyi

[craggy moth]

Repost again

I applied before for fun and got no response

[dusky lintel]

Only students I’ve seen landing these positions are the ones going to the big crypto hackathons in the states

Seems pretty dope tbh, They do stuff like giveaway Patagonia jackets to all participants

[placid dawn]

its not dope

most of these projects are scams

[outer trout]

ok but the jackets

[placid dawn]

true dat

[placid dawn]

kanada

[dark portal]

oh kanada

[raw field]

Guys most of fall internships are not out yet right ? Or did I miss it 💀

[cursive blaze]

I would assume most aren't out yet

Most larger orgs will start to post them in May/June I think

Smaller ones might be further out even

[honest tulip]

so

i'm fked for summer right

no internship for me

[untold nebula]

ik ppl who have gotten coops in june

you might have to lower your expectations(small companies) but its not hopeless

worst case scenario, you can just do projects/leetcode over the summer

[oblique crater]

bruh your chance is <1%

[placid dawn]

kanadha

[gloomy nymph]

KaNAdHAa

[eternal fossil]

thats chopped

i hate that they did this to you

[bitter ridge]

thanks bro, anyways I will work harder.

hope to clear some other FAANG Interviews.

[honest tulip]

yuppp

whatever

i'll gun for fall

[storm stream]

All good fam you'll get GOOG next, every interview is a learning experience

[frozen umbra]

Good luck next time. Just sounds like you didn’t know Java well enough. Just practice leetcode with no autocomplete, and you should be good.

[tawny zephyr]

https://jamhacks.ca

anyone going to be there?

this seems sm fun

(btw if someone has questions bout what this server is meant for go for it I am just sending and asking because this chat's dead rn)

[craggy moth]

It's for high schoolers only

[tawny zephyr]

yeah I can go but I am asking mentors wise

[fickle juniper]

anyone hear back from a thinking ape? I fear i've applied too late

[vivid fiber]

Didn't u get AMZN and Hubspot?

[steel escarp]

I think its for fall

Iirc

[fickle juniper]

Ohh ya hubspot is for summer, and I withdrew from Amazon to apply for fall (only to be auto rejected for being Canadian 😅)

A thinking ape is for fall

Speaking of which there’s another us Amazon posting https://amazon.jobs/en/jobs/2038364/sde-intern-amazon-cognito - hopefully not auto reject

[steel escarp]

Cisco is still hiring for summer

I remember someone here ask if theres any company hiring

[dark portal]

what's the resume value of cisco like?

[proud tinsel]

@dusky lintel are you saying your final round with Amazon is just a review of your OA?

[fickle juniper]

Probably pretty good since everyone knows cisco

[storm stream]

Cisco was my first internship... honestly meh 😅

ymmv

Actually let me correct myself...

I applied for my second internship quite late in the season, so I can't say honestly

But in every interview I did, people would recognize Cisco and show interest in what I did there

So overall positive

And generally Cisco Meraki > Cisco

[untold nebula]

Do recruiters know the difference?

[storm stream]

Good point 😂 Some might

[untold nebula]

looool

[fickle juniper]

Meraki pays way more too, and doesn’t sponsor Canadians

[storm stream]

Frick 😦

The internship itself was lame af... I worked on some antivirus team... I didn't even know cisco made an antivirus

[untold nebula]

I'm seeing some Canadian interns on LinkedIn

Most from Waterloo tho

[dark portal]

i would say cisco >= ibm from the looks of it

if they do fall or winter internships, i'll definitely apply

[storm stream]

tough to say honestly.... I would think so too yeah.. but then a few IBM interns here getting interviews with hubspot/shopify

So both seem decent to me

[ocean trellis]

@frozen umbra
Hey, how good are the career action services particularly for checking resumes at UW?

[frozen umbra]

Not good. I had mine looked by upper years/people in my cohort

[dark portal]

i'm gunning for shopify for my next internship

i think if you can get shopify as a new grad, then after 2 years into your career, you should be hearing back from quite a few faangs

[untold nebula]

Cisco winter coop went up early August last year

So look out for that
They probably do fall too

[storm stream]

Not two years, just one my dude, you'll be golden 👌🏼

[storm stream]

their application process has me salty af but it you can get through then that's a big W

someone here in IBM got Shopify phone

[steel escarp]

nah ibm pays more

but if u want cisco i can sneak u the recruiter's email 👀

[untold nebula]

How much do they pay

[steel escarp]

iirc cisco calgary pay 27-28

i got 30+ in ibm

[fickle juniper]

Was it Extreme Blue or swe?

More than I thought they gave

[steel escarp]

swe

extreme blue is prob more

but i can't even pass resume screen for extreme blue

:<

my brain is too small for dat

[fickle juniper]

I wonder how prestigious extreme blue is

[steel escarp]

better than amplify

worse than jane street

👀

[fickle juniper]

That’s funny cuz I can never pass ibm/rbc resume screen, only ever passed extreme blue haha

[steel escarp]

LOL

[steel escarp]

they missed out a goat

their loss

[untold nebula]

Ibm Calgary?

[steel escarp]

me was remote

but i asked them to letme come to the office

ottawa

so i assume if its the same range as calgary office

[storm stream]

2 years ago it was $25

[steel escarp]

I was unemployed 2 years ago

[storm stream]

[gloomy nymph]

Kanada

[dense monolith]

Canada is a country in North America

[dark portal]

you're the man, my dude! :)

[dark portal]

yeah i'll definitely shoot for a cisco fall or winter internship

[storm stream]

Cisco calgary asked me fizzbuzz

[ocean trellis]

Thanks
I will also post the resume here once it's ready

[steel escarp]

they're known to ask fizzbuzz and 2sum 🤣

[storm stream]

[dark portal]

lol 36/hr for a nice name on your resume and only being asked fizz buzz + 2 sum is good enough for me man

lol

[steel escarp]

i wouldn't mind too much since its just an internship

new grad is way more important 🤣

[untold nebula]

Cisco NG is 90k base

Pretty good but obviously can't compare to something like Amazon TC

[dark portal]

it honestly is lol

but i've heard from others that getting callbacks for new grad is easier at faang, if you've interned at places like: Cisco, IBM, Capital One, etc

i know one guy at my school who's previously interned at IBM, and for NG he got Meta and AMZN

[dark portal]

i'd take it tbh

and after a year or 2, you can just switch on over to a faang

[storm stream]

we can make 150k NG no cap

[dark portal]

yup

just gotta lc and systems design

it's a phenomenal return on investment

because after 5 years, you can potentially make 300k+

[untold nebula]

Ya for sure, it's great pay

[eager elk]

Any remote companies paying more than Shopify in canada?

[vestal grove]

Isnt Amazon remote still ?

[storm stream]

yeah plenty, most big ones offer remote

[storm stream]

yeah basically remote

[eager elk]

Ah i see. I didn't know amazon was remote. Any besides faang?

[storm stream]

stripe coinbase are remote too

I think everyone is basically remote

Dunno about GOOG

[placid dawn]

any faang openings frm usa or canada

[dark portal]

do you know any ex cisco interns or people who got cisco as new grads?

[frozen umbra]

I know ex cisco meraki interns, and I know some people who got cisco new grad offer. Why?

[placid dawn]

KANADA

[gloomy nymph]

USA all the way

[placid dawn]

i agree

[terse tartan]

Google did rto in march

[cursive blaze]

I love Canada

[craggy moth]

I love Kanada

[dark portal]

I think with IBM, I can land a Cisco internship offer for winter 2023, summer 2023, or fall 2023

And worst case scenario, I'll start off at Cisco as a new grad

[placid dawn]

there should be a separated canada process chat

[dark portal]

OH KANADA

[steel escarp]

is cisco new grad that good?

👀

[dark portal]

i think it's pretty decent tbh

the thing is, you can always hop from cisco --> faang after a year or 2 of exp

imo a cisco internship + new grad offer is well within the realm of possibility if you have an ibm internship

[steel escarp]

I want a boy friend offer from a girl 😦

[dark portal]

don't worry boss, you'll eventually get one

or rather... many

[steel escarp]

dang ur even more optimistic than me

[fickle juniper]

Good thing is no LC required for this 👍

[steel escarp]

I wonder how it feels like to LC with a girl

[dark portal]

ask a cs girl out on an lc date

[eternal fossil]

if there was a canada process chat

it would just be like 3.24 entries

[frozen umbra]

It doesn’t feel like anything. Just someone else you talk to while leetcoding

[vivid fiber]

Snap is hybrid

[fickle juniper]

Just got Coinbase OA, so no auto reject for 🇨🇦

[gloomy nymph]

Kanada

[gloomy nymph]

shibe

[cursive blaze]

I also found when I was job searching, that an insane amount of US companies were hiring remote engineers in Canada

[fickle juniper]

Wealthsimple is also fully remote iirc

Certain Microsoft and Nvidia teams too I think?

But Idk if these pay more than Shopify

[cursive blaze]

honestly i'm fairly certain most unicorn tech companies in Canada support remote

[proper plaza]

twilio is remote

[dense monolith]

If I apply to a bunch of companies for fall 2022 and I don't get accepted or the interview goes bad can I retry in the summer?

[storm stream]

intern or ng? Coinbase is goalsss 😍

Also you didn't apply to Coinbase toronto?

[wide aurora]

Coinbase doesnt want me

got resume rejected 4 times

[fickle juniper]

Intern, I applied to the Seattle one

[storm stream]

That's sick... I've heard great things about Coinbase internship

Hope you get it dawg

[honest tulip]

Summer or fall?

[steel escarp]

incoming @ coinbase

u got this

[fickle juniper]

Fall

[fickle juniper]

Incoming coinbase interview reject 💩

[ruby fossil]

Why would you reject coinbase?

[fickle juniper]

I mean ill get rejected haha

[glossy herald]

how much does shopify pay rn?

[frozen umbra]

New grad?

[eager elk]

For new grad l4 it's like ~110k tc

[frozen umbra]

Because from what I’ve heard, it’s like 95-100k cad base + 75k usd rsu over 3 years

[eager elk]

Thats for l5^

L4 is like 90k base + 45k over 3 i think

[frozen umbra]

TF

That’s even worse lmao

[oblique crater]

and you can be L4 or L5 as newgrad based on what?

[eager elk]

Most people who convert from intern to full-time get L4 unless if you did really good you might be able to get L5

[fickle juniper]

“high priority” swe summer internship based in Burnaby BC being promoted on LinkedIn from Zscaler: https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3044009028

This looks sick ngl, especially if ur into systems

[glossy herald]

was wondering bout intern in Canada

i think someone said around 37

idk if they raised it

[oblique crater]

these guys have had apps open for months, they're either way too picky, pay like shit or have had unlucky renegs recently

[fickle juniper]

I heard good things about Zscaler if ur into security/systems. Not sure about pay

4.2 on Blind, which is good

[oblique crater]

yeah I got ghosted

my resume is like basically no systems though so understandable

[frozen umbra]

I don’t think they raised it given the fact they low balled new grads this term

[glossy herald]

lool true

[elder hamlet]

yup 37 per hour summer 2022

[glossy herald]

ahh i see thanks

[storm stream]

mr @fickle juniper I was messaging someone on LinkedIn about Coinbase a while ago

he told me intern process is 1. OA 2. recruiter screen 3. phone screen

And they repeat questions a lot, all over leetcode

and he said for the behavioural parts just show excitement about web3 and it's helpful to have basic knowledge of blockchain going in

they like to see interest apparently

Good luck 🔥

[wide aurora]

Do you guys think it’s a good idea to email my interviewer after the interview ended and tell them you thought of a better solution to the problem and explain it?

[ruby fossil]

No I don't think they care and how do they know that you didn't just look it up

Also I doubt they remember the exact question you did

[storm stream]

Nah man what's done is done

[wide aurora]

Yeah.. idk it’s bothering me cause it’s the exact same implementation it’s just instead of a linked list it’s a double linked list

It’s killing me lol

But yeah I guess you guys are right

[ruby fossil]

I'd just take it as a win in that the next time you get a similar question then you know what to do

You didn't just get an interview but you learned something too ^_^

[wide aurora]

[fickle juniper]

Holy that’s sick info, thanks man!

[craggy moth]

Anyone can search the problem after the interview or ask someone for a solution. They won't believe you

[worn moss]

is cisco auto OA?

[bitter ridge]

Yoo My Canadian mates, I have created a GitHub Repository of bunch of Leetcode Problems that I have solved so far. All are most optimal solutions that are acceptable by leetcode. Hope this would be helpful to fellow coders. So, far I have solved around 50 questions, I know its not that big of a number, but I will keep on updating it.

https://github.com/DestinationFAANG/Destination-FAANG---Java-Solution

[placid dawn]

ye for me

[cursive blaze]

Any Calgary folk in here? 😁 starting to go in a bit more to the office DT always nice to know some more folks

[storm stream]

Cowtown here 🤠

But I hate commuting downtown it's aids 😂

[tepid egret]

yea

[cursive blaze]

I feel that 😂 I’m moving to Parkdale right away so the commute is so much quicker. Rn I’m so south haha

[storm stream]

I love Parkdale ❤️

My first home was there right across the river I miss it 😭

[cursive blaze]

No way haha! Our place is right across the river . We’re pretty excited . I’m so excited for the short bike commute DT too haha

Although gotta figure out parking for one of our vehicles still 😂 stupid Calgary parking wouldn’t give us a residential permit because we’re in a condo building

[storm stream]

Oooh is it one of those nice ones near 29th?

Enjoy man, that bike ride is a beauty, I used to do it every single day

[cursive blaze]

It’s right on memorial drive pretty much! Nice building for sure. Just gotta find another tenant to rent me a parking stall xD

You 100% remote?

[storm stream]

Supposed to go to Vancouver for the summer... but after seeing rental prices I think I'm gonna stay 😂

Might go back and forth we'll see

But overall I prefer remote a lot more

[cursive blaze]

Totally fair 😂 I do enjoy remote quite a bit as well, nice to just have the overall flexibility

[steel escarp]

Calgary here

Me at the airport rn

Im out

[steel escarp]

Btw when will u leave for 🍌

[gloomy nymph]

where you headed

[storm stream]

Yoooooo where you goin? I fly out Sunday, but my start date is May 9

[placid dawn]

cisco OA hard?

[gloomy nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-chad-gif-18386674

https://tenor.com/view/cisco-aint-nobody-got-time-for-that-busy-gif-7866352

[untold nebula]

Nah. I think I got 2 easies 1 med. You got 90mins to solve iirc

[placid dawn]

wml

[steel escarp]

Ottawa

My flight got delayed for 4 hrs

Sadge

[storm stream]

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn enjoy the truckers i guess

[upbeat bronze]

I had a technical problem that wasted 40 minutes of my time.... stressed the hell out, then started and finished the OA in 10 mins

[steel escarp]

I will loool

First impression is ottawa is kinda boring at night

[placid dawn]

offer?

[steel escarp]

Rng but i got 2 ez med 1 ez

[placid dawn]

[errant kelp]

you got the new grad offer?

[storm stream]

Nah intern

[placid dawn]

bru this cisco oa is hard

or im just dumb

lets go 2 done 1 to go

this one is like word search but they give u many words to search instead of just 1

[eternal fossil]

anyone do an interview at lookout ?

[dark portal]

lol i too hope to be an airport in the near future, so i can travel to europe

[errant kelp]

is it remote?

[upbeat bronze]

Ghosted

[upbeat bronze]

From what i saw on reddit, they take months to contact you after the OA, so be ready for that

[cinder minnow]

This is gonna be the summer of leetcode and applying for fall fellas

What's the vibe looking like?

Lots of opportunities or nah?

[fickle juniper]

U know it my dude

[fickle juniper]

For Canada? Very few so far. Basically ATA and Coinbase, but it wouldn't have really picked up yet

[untold nebula]

They took a week for me

But this was for summer, idk about fall

[upbeat bronze]

I see

[steel escarp]

Loool i did the oa in like september

And the recruiter contacted me last week

🤣

[untold nebula]

Lmaooooo

[plain plover]

Can you get ghosted after signing an offer?

[smoky cape]

I kinda got ghosted after getting verbal offer

Still no written offer after a week

[plain plover]

Oh man. Thats not easy. Did you reach out to the recruiter?

I sent an email to the recruiter and bro no answers after weeks

Bro at least if they are ghosting me let me know at least

[cursive blaze]

Super weird honestly haha. Maybe the recruiter is on vacation?

Do you have any other contact? I’d try reaching out to another contact just in case.

[plain plover]

Sent an email mid april jo answer reached out end of april still no answer too

Like how long is their vacation

[plain plover]

Yeah i was hesitant to do that to not step on any toes but like at this point

[cursive blaze]

When’s your start date?

[plain plover]

June

Kinda the time to get the ball rolling no? Background check etc

[cursive blaze]

Oh, I wouldn’t worry a crazy amount honestly some companies are slow. It could be worth reaching out to another contact tho just in case to double check .

[fickle juniper]

What company?

[cursive blaze]

A lot of orgs tend to leave stuff until last minute

[plain plover]

I think yk man lol

[smoky cape]

Yeah we've had some back and forth bc I wanted fall and teams apparently could only allow summer

And I told them I could only do remote summer in canada bc I have 2 in person classes

So recruiter prob verifying a bunch of things with the teams and thats why it's taking this long

Really hope they dont rescind or smth tho

[storm stream]

Mr @fickle juniper how was Coinbase code signal

[fickle juniper]

Not too bad, it was gca

I got <800, didn’t do the square glitch or whatever but I think it’s pretty much auto phone

[late lichen]

yo what's up

The company I interned at called me and is offering to pay me as much as a unicorn company (or more) since I know the workings and was working on a huge project for them, even though I haven't done the interview yet for the unicorn

What should I do

The company is smaller scale but mentioned in the server a couple times

I'm thinking accept. Work a year. Then interview with bigger

The head of Dev had a 20+ min convo with me about it but said it's my choice

[oblique crater]

small company and unicorn pay sounds great tbh

you’ll do more than being on a hyper focused team like at a FAANG learning more in your early career but with good pay, and you can always go somewhere else if you start getting better offers

[fickle juniper]

Depends on the company, unicorn, and the teams tbh

And probably how significant the difference is in pay

[upbeat bronze]

Anyone interviewed with google before? For new grad

[storm stream]

Which unicorn? Tryna think about resume brand value

[eternal fossil]

Anyone do square new grad ?

Just wanna know what I’m in for

[late lichen]

Coinbase interview but not guaranteed lol

The other company is well known as well around the world

[storm stream]

You told them about Coinbase before you have an offer?

[late lichen]

But it's not a "big name tech" company

[storm stream]

Bro just say the company name lol

[late lichen]

I didn't say the name I just said I have two interviews

Ericsson lol

[storm stream]

Ericsson eh? McGill?

[late lichen]

nah

[storm stream]

😂

[late lichen]

I'm first from my uni

[storm stream]

Anyway

[late lichen]

The office is the sauga one

[storm stream]

Have you accepted return offer?

[late lichen]

Nope but I had a convo today

[storm stream]

kkkk

[late lichen]

They want to offer me and said to email them next week

My coinbase interview is may 9

But idk if I wanna go thru that stress LOOOL

[storm stream]

imo Coinbase >>>>>> Ericsson

Not even close

In terms of clout, as well as modern software engineering practices

For your own growth I would go through with the interview

[late lichen]

Yeah true

[storm stream]

Don't stay in one place just cuz it's convenient

[late lichen]

I understand yeah

[storm stream]

I was at Cisco and I thought ya I'm chilling

But I stepped out into a startup

and holy the amount I learned

These dinosaur companies are way way behind

[late lichen]

That's true

I mean the office I was working for is now heavy focused on DevOps and that's something I've wanted to do

They're moving to cloud

And the role is DevOps focused

I think ur right thigh

Though*

[storm stream]

You owe it to yourself to explore what's out there man

[cursive blaze]

Following this path and heading off to the unicorn land 😁 can’t wait haha

[late lichen]

I'll do the interview

Since shits not guaranteed

[storm stream]

You're still early in your career right? Take advantage and try as many things as possible

[late lichen]

yeah

I just finished uni

[storm stream]

And listen... once you have Coinbase on your resume you're CHILLING

[late lichen]

Like a week ago

Fax

[storm stream]

I been Chatting to randoms on linkedin who work at Coinbase

It's sounds like a really nice place to work

It's on my top 3 when I graduate I'm a big fan ^_^

[storm stream]

Yoooooooo where you headed?

[late lichen]

Yeah that's true

Ty

[cursive blaze]

Hahahah I think we chatted earlier but I’m starting at Clio in 2 weeks

[storm stream]

Oh right right sorry 😂

Clio is lit

[cursive blaze]

Yeee I’m pumped for it

[steel escarp]

Clio rejected my resume 3 times

[storm stream]

SAY WHAT? HELLLLLLL NO I gotchu

I got recruiter contact hmu

[steel escarp]

Nah too late

[storm stream]

[steel escarp]

They lost me

[storm stream]

Damn their loss fr fr

[cursive blaze]

I like how they have a Calgary office

[storm stream]

Unlimited PTO at cb btw

Which in most places is a scam

But the guy I was talking to said a lot of people take on average 4 weeks off a year

like they actually use it

PLUS they get week off every quarter

LOL

[storm stream]

yee across the fairmont... fairly convenient

[cursive blaze]

Lol most hilarious thing rn I’m working at Telus in the office

Clio’s office is right across xD

[storm stream]

Oh really? LOOOOOOOOL

Awkward

[cursive blaze]

Telus Sky is a nice building tho

In it rn

[storm stream]

You gonna run into your old coworkers

[late lichen]

That's true but when I interned they were pretty chill about days off. But yeah unlimited PTO seems good

[cursive blaze]

Hahaha yeah how’s the Clio office? Seen there’s some decent amenities for it

[late lichen]

My issue is that return offer went from being bottom of the list to a lot higher lol

But ya I'll still give the CB interview

[storm stream]

I have yet to step foot in an office building... all my internships have been during covid LMAO

[late lichen]

Again anything can happen

[late lichen]

same

[storm stream]

It's a good backup to have... but if you get Coinbase it's like putting your career on a rocketship

[late lichen]

Yes

True

[cursive blaze]

LOOL that’s funny hahaha. Yeah I seen in my offer that there’s a gym, basketball court thing, golf sim

[late lichen]

Thank u @storm stream <3

[cursive blaze]

& apparently breakfast/snacks and a weekly lunch

[storm stream]

You GOT this bro.... give it your all

[late lichen]

gracias

[storm stream]

LOL yeah I remember people talking about the gym and all that

reminiscing and whatnot

[cursive blaze]

Gl @late lichen 😃

Yeee the video looked nice seen that the company that manages the office had one on YouTube 😂

[storm stream]

btw ask around, I think cb repeats a lot of their interview questions

[fickle juniper]

Imo if the pay is comparable I would go CB, but it also depends on the project. If ur already a key part of a highly visible project, it succeeding might = faster promos @late lichen

[untold nebula]

Or just dm previous cb interns on LinkedIn to figure out what the interview is like

[cursive blaze]

One thing to is hopping in a year after school is pretty easy honestly

I took return offer from Telus and easily got like 10+ interviews when I actually decided to start looking a year later

[storm stream]

RESPECT

mr @cursive blaze FAANG next

[fickle juniper]

Grats on Clio @cursive blaze, heard really good things

[storm stream]

A lot of ex Clio in faang

[late lichen]

Ty :) sure. I've seen some on Google

[storm stream]

Juuuuuust saying

[late lichen]

Yeah true

A lot of stuff to weigh

[fickle juniper]

Is it remote? I know they have an office in Van

[cursive blaze]

Bruh bunch of my friends are off to some FAANG style companies , so many people I know switching up recently

[cursive blaze]

Thanks! I’m excited !

[late lichen]

some non FAANG are starting to pay comparable

[storm stream]

Whaaaaa CB is in Van?

[late lichen]

nah Clio I think ^

[storm stream]

oh Clio

Yeah in Burnaby

[fickle juniper]

Oh wait I meant Clio haha

[cursive blaze]

Yeah remote or in office

Whatever you prefer basically is what they told me

[storm stream]

Yeah they chill af about remote it's nice

[cursive blaze]

But they have an office in Calgary, Toronto and Dublin of all place 😂

Hq in Burnaby

[storm stream]

LOL yeah they acquired some Dublin company a while back

Dublin also handles EU customers

[cursive blaze]

Yeee that makes sense . I seen they have acquired a couple companies in the past few years

[storm stream]

have you got the link to the clio store yet?

their IT is so good

[fickle juniper]

Is Dublin still a tax haven?

[cursive blaze]

Nah, just signed the employment agreement recently like a day ago haha

[storm stream]

Ya lol

[cursive blaze]

Their IT director was my culture interviewer actually

Guy was super sweet

[storm stream]

Oh nice the Irish dude?

He's sick lol

He was always in the #metal slack channel 😂

[cursive blaze]

Uhh.. I wanna say his name was Callum?

[storm stream]

Yeah I don't remember tbqh 😅

[cursive blaze]

Yeah he was sweet tho he’s like how’d you get started on your career path and I’m like “made a RuneScape private server off my home router when I was like 14” 😂

Told him probably wasn’t the smartest thing to open up a million ports 😂

[storm stream]

[cursive blaze]

Yeah great guy, honestly all my interviewers were the best out of all the interviews I did

10/10 would recommend to anyone

[storm stream]

Yeah you'll love the people working there

Such good culture

[cursive blaze]

Yeah sure seemed like it after hearing from you and like everyone I spoke with. Seems great

[storm stream]

[dark portal]

any idea on how much bmo pays interns?

[placid dawn]

!process coinbase reject

[karmic monolith]

You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process

[placid dawn]

500 dollars an hour

[frozen umbra]

Uhhh depends. I think they paid like 30s for some of the upper years in my uni. In the range of 25-33/hour is what I remember.

[dark portal]

stfu and go back to getting that faang internship bb

you're too good looking to be trolling

[placid herald]

Apologies for barging in. How hard would it be to land any internships for big tech without a prior experience? How can I compensate that? I am looking to target an internship for summer for 2023. Also do you guys know any links to when the companies do start hiring in Canada? I managed to find the us ones but i am unaware of any related to Canads

[fickle juniper]

Wait idt this is true, unless they just changed this recently

U mean GSoC right?

GSoC is actually very competitive and u generally won’t get selected unless u do a bunch of contributions (i.e. PRs to the orgs ur applying to) during the application period and regularly chat with potential mentors to build ur proposal. So it’s quite a bit of work

[oblique crater]

shit is legitimately getting more competitive by the year

but yeah doing some web dev work or any dev work for a student org at your university is pretty surefire and is good experience

[dusky lintel]

How much is gtlp base these days?

In 2020 they bumped to 72k

[worn moss]

Any1 have a list of first year internships for Canadian students

[cursive blaze]

It’s 80k start now and the 10% performance bonus. So around 90k comp first year

[steel escarp]

Holy its almost as high as ibm

I remember last year or sthing it was 70k

[cursive blaze]

Yeah it’s a great program honestly, it’s mainly what you make of it. I know many people that have gone through the program / partially left into other orgs as well

[steel escarp]

Did u get signed as a contractor or fte?

[cursive blaze]

You’re counted as a fte, so benefits and all 🙂

[steel escarp]

Lots of companies in calgary only give contract position

[cursive blaze]

Benefits are super good too

[steel escarp]

Niceee

[cursive blaze]

Just had my wisdom teeth out, 100% coverage

[steel escarp]

Thats sickk

[cursive blaze]

Think there’s also a wellness of $750 a year or something around that as well, plus phone/internet discount

So pretty good overall!

[steel escarp]

Yeee maybe i should rethink to stay in calgary

[cursive blaze]

I think the tech scene is only going to continue to grow here haha

Office space is cheap af

[steel escarp]

Ye but i think most of the tech stuff in calgary is around data science

I dont see how actual engineering will grow

[cursive blaze]

Eh I’m not so sure, there’s quite a bit of regular Software Engineering jobs for sure here. I know when I was looking I was really surprised haha

Plus most companies hire remote no problem

[steel escarp]

Lool they have a program called alberta technology

Where u can work pt for a start up in alberta snd government will pay u

I applied for couple of positions

Got rejected all lool

[cursive blaze]

I think there’s like Elastic and Unity that have pretty sizeable offices in Calgary as well

AMD has an office too I wanna say

[dark portal]

I'm gonna try to do that too, lol

[steel escarp]

Ye ik but they only work on things that relate to security

[cursive blaze]

Yee fair

I also have a friend who works at Yelp in Calgary

[steel escarp]

So ibm + school + starg up in fall?

[steel escarp]

Ohhh yelp is remote

[cursive blaze]

Yee but they “had” an office in Calgary

Not sure if they’re keeping it or not

[steel escarp]

Its gonna be dope if i can get any big n and work in calgary

[cursive blaze]

Ye buddy of mine works for Doordash out of Edmonton haha

Solid comp especially for Edmonton

[steel escarp]

Wtf dd is like 200k

And edmonton is cheap af lool

[dark portal]

Nah I'm gonna see if the startup uses some newer tech (go, rust, etc) and then go from there lol

[steel escarp]

He can buy a house after 2 years of working

[frozen umbra]

Bruh what

[dark portal]

I'll only do IBM + school

[frozen umbra]

Dd is 200k

???

[cursive blaze]

Yep hahaha

[dark portal]

Wait... datadog is 200k in Calgary?

What would that in Toronto be?

[cursive blaze]

He makes a bit more than 200k too hahaha but like I said it’s pretty possible to get remote jobs like that in AB

[dark portal]

Like... 350k

[frozen umbra]

Dd is doordash

[dark portal]

Ohhhh lmao

[steel escarp]

I think if u get a remote offer

[cursive blaze]

Amazon hires remote as well

[steel escarp]

Toronto and calgary are the same

Both are kanada

[frozen umbra]

Damn that’s pretty impressive

[steel escarp]

[steel escarp]

Team dependant i think

[cursive blaze]

Yeah know a guy who got Microsoft as well recently mostly remote

[frozen umbra]

All my friends who got offers at big N gotta go to office for a bit

[cursive blaze]

He isn’t sure if he wants to move just yet to Vancouver so he’s starting remote for the summer

[frozen umbra]

Like a hybrid approach

[cursive blaze]

Fair granted many of my friends graduated 2-3 yrs ago

[steel escarp]

Ibm better increase to 100k

[frozen umbra]

True makes sense

[cursive blaze]

So many are landing Engineer 2 / Senior roles now

[steel escarp]

Or im out

🤣

[frozen umbra]

Yeah they’ll be more flexible to be remote then

[steel escarp]

Were u in uofa or uofc?

[cursive blaze]

Yeee! Jobber is a good company in Edmonton too, they offer remote as well

So many of my alumni work there it’s not even funny hahaha like probably 15+

[dark portal]

I think they will

[cursive blaze]

Neither 😂😂😂

MacEwan

[steel escarp]

Lool

[dark portal]

IBMs new grad offer is all over the place, but I think it start at around 85k

[cursive blaze]

No difference between uofa and macewan, I felt macewan you got more face time with the prof way smaller classes

And all the profs teach at uofa too

[steel escarp]

I remember there were some posts on uofc reddits about how desperated they are to find a new grad job

[cursive blaze]

So literally no difference

[dark portal]

Like... desperate?

[steel escarp]

Ye

[dark portal]

I assume most grads just get jobs In Calgary lol

[steel escarp]

Most of uofc students grad w no internships

[cursive blaze]

First job is tough for sure

[steel escarp]

And 3.0 average

Only school projects

Not too many ppl actually grind

But the scenerio changed recently tho

I saw more uofc students got big n and cool unicorn

[cursive blaze]

Most of my friends all came from Macewan and tons are in big n / unicorns. School honestly doesn’t matter once you get some experience

[frozen umbra]

^^

School might help you get your first job once you graduate, but that’s about it

[steel escarp]

Ye tru but i feel like school affects ur mindset a lot

[frozen umbra]

Might, but it really depends on the friends you make

[cursive blaze]

Yep this is 100% true.

[frozen umbra]

If your friends aren’t in cs, you probably won’t grind too much

If your friends are in cs, you’ll probably be inclined to grind with them

[cursive blaze]

A lot of people I went to school with were returning students like between 25-30

[untold nebula]

That's only if your cs friends are career oriented

[steel escarp]

Me returning student

[cursive blaze]

They took their time with it and it didn’t matter all have fantastic jobs

[steel escarp]

Me 24 now

[frozen umbra]

This is true

[steel escarp]

Sadge im old

[cursive blaze]

I’m 24 , I wouldn’t consider that crazy old xD

[dark portal]

Yeah I wouldn't consider 24 old

[untold nebula]

The takeaway is find like minded people

[steel escarp]

Life is too short

[dark portal]

How is Edmonton?

[cursive blaze]

I enjoyed Edmonton while I was there

[dark portal]

Never been there lol

[dark portal]

Edmonton or Toronto?

[steel escarp]

Ppl make a meme and called it deadmonton

[cursive blaze]

Calgary now

[steel escarp]

👀

[cursive blaze]

Never been to Toronto

Aside from passing through

[frozen umbra]

Toronto makes me spend a lot of money lmao

[dark portal]

Oh damn are you from Alberta?

[cursive blaze]

Been to Vancouver tho, I loved Vancouver but just so expensive out there

[steel escarp]

Ikr

[dark portal]

I wanna see Montreal real bad

I'm from fucking windsor lol

[steel escarp]

The housing is holy fk

[cursive blaze]

Yep! AB is nice honestly

[dark portal]

Whenever there's a long weekend this Summer, I'm just gonna take a road trip to Montreal?

[frozen umbra]

The goals to make enough money and move my family over to Vancouver

[cursive blaze]

Calgary being so close to the mountains is the biggest benefit

Especially if you enjoy the outdoors

[steel escarp]

Or u can just make calgary the new vancouver

🤣

[cursive blaze]

Can buy a huge house in Calgs for 1m or a 1bedroom condo in Van 🤣

Transit is way better in Vancouver tho 100%

[steel escarp]

But the chinook wind in the winter 🥶

[cursive blaze]

Not great in Calgary or Edmonton

[frozen umbra]

How cold is it in Calgary

[placid herald]

Used to see them a while ago lol. Are you from uofc ?

[steel escarp]

Could go below -30 sometimes

[frozen umbra]

Since weather is a factor for my older parents lmao

[steel escarp]

C ofc

[steel escarp]

Ye