canada

[dark portal]

Bit*

And grind

[storm stream]

remote or?

[dark portal]

But by 25 I wanna move to the US

[storm stream]

mr subs what was your prev experience if you don't mind me asking

[south rose]

Shopify + startup

[storm stream]

👏🏼

I respect people that get Shopify just because that application process is absolute hell

😂

[south rose]

That was my recruiting szn

Some stuff missing

Outdated but yeah

[frozen umbra]

What was GOAT offer. Surprised you took that over Microsoft

[storm stream]

where in the US do you have to move to?

[storm stream]

This list is cracked, despite all the fails

[south rose]

anywhere

deciding between LA or miami

[gloomy nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-beach-miami-shirtless-moves-gif-4911985

Miami all the way

fuck LA

[south rose]

https://tenor.com/view/good-boy-dogs-dog-tricks-jet-ski-gif-8657231

[zinc basin]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khalen-success-water-jetski-gif-8878336

just don't get lost like him :-p

[verbal laurel]

crazy list, how much previous experience do you have?

[oblique crater]

those were internships? mind dming me your resume

[south rose]

referrals through blind

and twiter

ur resume just needs to follow xyz formula by google

[storm stream]

👌🏼

I plan on grinding blind and linkedin for referrals for new grad

when did you start applying for summer positions?

[terse tartan]

try to start in june of the year before

[frozen umbra]

What do you mean applying for summer positions? like internship or are you graduating in april and looking to start in the summer

[storm stream]

Yeah graduating in 2023 and applying for new grad

[south rose]

Prep in june

apply end of july

[storm stream]

Frick that's kinda soon... I'm hella burnt out from this season

[south rose]

ft or intern

where are u interning

[storm stream]

Zon

Intern

Starting May

[frozen umbra]

Just get a return offer from zon

I applied in jan lmao

[storm stream]

I feel like I need a plan B because pip and whatnot

[south rose]

it depends on how much leetcode uve preped

[frozen umbra]

If you want to be safe, apply around november. I know a lot of new grad positions are out by then.

[storm stream]

Besides many other places I'd rather work

[south rose]

June if ur starting fresh

[frozen umbra]

I mean get a return offer from zon

so when your interviewing, you have less stress about having to find a job

You interview better once you know you have a back up plan

[storm stream]

One pass through Blind 75

[south rose]

thats good

just do grokking

[storm stream]

Gonna use it to bargain other offers LOL

I hope I get less ghosted with Amazon on the resume 🥲🥲

[storm stream]

How did you prep Mr subs

[south rose]

im not the greatest leetcoder tbh

but i did blind 75, grokking, and some personal ones

going through final rounds helped prep a lot

never did mocks

i should of done mocks tho

[frozen umbra]

Same. The more leetcode I did, the more I questioned whether I was smart enough lmao

[storm stream]

Yeah mocks are installed

[south rose]

it was a memorization game

[storm stream]

Underrated

[south rose]

focus on Graphs, Trees,

all my interviews were pretty much graphs

rarely trees

[storm stream]

LOL I felt the exact same kinda sadge

Did you get any systems design?

[south rose]

yeah

just OOP

for snap

then actual sys

for Forward onsite

[storm stream]

System design for ng... What has the world come to

[frozen umbra]

Its probably something like:

Design twitter
Design a search history

its not even that bad

[steel escarp]

soon system design will be standard even for high school kids 🤣

[storm stream]

[steel escarp]

I remember someone told me couple years ago 2sum was still a lc med

[storm stream]

LOL wow

Times are changing

[storm stream]

Gotta grind Gaurav Sen on YouTube

[steel escarp]

Im wondering if companies will actually fly us for onsite interviews like before

that'd be a great experience tho

[storm stream]

Zoom is so much cheaper for them

[frozen umbra]

They might not anymore, since its easier to just do it through a virtual one lmao

[storm stream]

Maybe for ng?

Even then it's such a fkn hassle

Just give me a zoom link LOL

[steel escarp]

idk dude

i like the vibe of free travels

LOL

[frozen umbra]

everyone does lmao

[steel escarp]

but prob it feels bad to fail the interviews

[frozen umbra]

Tho interviewing might feel weird, having to write it out on a whiteboard

rather than typing it out

[frozen umbra]

I dont think so, you got to enjoy some time elsewhere. It feels worse failing from your room lmao

[steel escarp]

ye lol

[storm stream]

Yeah feels better knowing you fleeced them for a flight and a hotel room with some meals LOL

[steel escarp]

damn i wanna work in bay area for at least once

🤣

[frozen umbra]

I just wanted to work there once during my internships... now im stuck there for atleast a year ;-;

[storm stream]

[steel escarp]

🤣

why

i thought bay area is cool af

[frozen umbra]

my sf friends say its kinda boring

and they went to NYC for FT

[steel escarp]

lool

nyc is expensive af

[frozen umbra]

its expensive living by yourself

might not be with a s/o

whos also making the same amount as you

[steel escarp]

yees true hmm

how about saving

do u save more if u live in nyc compare to bay area?

assuming same level same company

[frozen umbra]

ngl not sure.

NYC doesnt have the state tax, but ill probably be hanging out with friends more

Probably more fun there

But I havent lived anywhere outside of canada so I cant really comment

[hazy swift]

Hi, anyone will intern at SAP Vancouver this May?

[dark portal]

Ima try my best to gun for an NYC position as a ng

[frozen umbra]

GL, but in your internships, make sure you build connections. Who knows if your manager will refer you to their US office

[dark portal]

For sure!

For my opentext internship, the manager worked remotely from the US

[vivid walrus]

i loved microsoft redmond campus

so i still have this dream to go to seattle one day

[worn moss]

Yo when do 2023 summer internships open up for Canadian companies

[rocky pendant]

like jan 2023 or summer?

[oblique crater]

usually by Christmas or after of 2022

FAANG maybe a bit earlier especially Amazon

[old ferry]

Lots of top US companies also have Toronto offices and usually open apps in September (ddash, stripe, Pinterest, etc.)

[bold phoenix]

anyone have experience doing norbert's gambit?

[gloomy nymph]

nani?

[bold phoenix]

for converting USD to CAD

[storm stream]

It's such a headache lol

But if you got a large sum it's worth

I've never done it

[rocky pendant]

i dont convert my money because i dont have any money to convert

[ashen pike]

Just open an investment account with a broker such as IBKR and do it there by one click

[craggy moth]

+1 for IBKR

Cheapest broker in Canada

[halcyon dove]

If anyone interviewed at BMO for data analyst intern, or anything alike hmu.

[pseudo notch]

👍

[midnight sphinx]

Anyone have any experience working at AMD or Nvidia?

[eternal fossil]

how was meta new grad phone screening if anyone did it for canada role?

[rocky pendant]

anyone know how much BMO pays for new grad?

they wanna interview me but i have a feeling i wont like the money

[oblique crater]

probs won’t ngl

if you have any solid offers skip, but if not it’s better than nothing

[ruby fossil]

Yeah just take it and renege when you get something better. I think having the offer in hand will make interviewing future positions 'easier' as you'll be less pressured

[storm stream]

Is the process for Canada any different from US?

[eternal fossil]

No idea, but from what I have gathered the questions and bar is lower in Canada than its counterpart

Trying to solidify that claim by asking about the process

[storm stream]

Oh really? I'd be surprised if they have a separate recruiting process for Canada...

Amazon interview process for eg is the same for Canada/US

[eternal fossil]

Yeah Amazon is generally the same

I have been reading on leetcode discussions and this discord and glass door to see what’s going on

[dark portal]

i've heard its around 80kish

[idle cobalt]

No finance/bank pays 6 figure to new grads.

not really sure if there are HFT firms like jane street

in toronto

[oblique crater]

idk seems like RBC pays well enough

their internships are 34/hr but for newgrad it's dog

[honest tulip]

Who in Canada is still hiring rn

I can’t find any open postings

[vivid walrus]

people that moved on from 'zon in canada, what company did you move to and why?

[vivid fiber]

Look harder

Check LinkedIn and Glassdoor

[terse tartan]

the intern bar is the exact same

and i dont think the FTE bar is any diferent

[honest tulip]

I do

There are so few postings and the ones in Canada are all non swe

[oblique crater]

1/10th the population

1/10th the jobs, it adds up

[native walrus]

depends on the role

[proud tinsel]

Varies wildly. Are you interviewing for capital markets?

[rocky pendant]

Just new grad software dev

[proud tinsel]

Probably under 100

[rocky pendant]

L

[proud tinsel]

ye

Capital Markets is good but you'll get worked super hard imo there are better options

for growth + WLB + $

[rocky pendant]

Yeah nah im not into it

Capital markets is like Quant stuff?

I don't know anything about money

[proud tinsel]

Ya working on the trading floor.

[native walrus]

New grad software at BMO started at like 62 a couple years ago

Prolly in the 70s now, 80s with some negotiation

[vivid fiber]

https://www.glassdoor.ca/job-listing/java-software-developer-internship-mindgeek-careers-JV_IC2296722_KO0,34_KE35,51.htm?jl=1007747422228

[vivid fiber]

That is a normal amt of jobs

Canada has 10% of the U.S's population

[honest tulip]

mindgeek is a porn site

lol

that's funny

i just googled

[vivid fiber]

They are the parent company of PornHub

[rancid juniper]

@vivid fiber still, it's porn lol

[honest tulip]

I dun wanna work at a porn site lol

[steel escarp]

I mean it looks good on resume

worked on a streaming website that has millions access a day 👀

stepping stone for youtube 🤣

[ruby fossil]

Create enjoyment for users all around the world

[vivid fiber]

U said u wanted an internship smh

[ruby fossil]

Think of the perks.... maybe you can get free premium or meetings with their content providers

[lucid berry]

😏

Jokes asides, I heard that MindGeek is a real toxic place to work at

[ruby fossil]

Some people like it that way

I heard they replace all videos with cat videos in development

Otherwise it'd be kinda awkward to work remotely with the parents in the house

[south rose]

Hahaha

[south rose]

The reason question isn’t

Is

Do you get to meet the stars

[storm stream]

do staff members get premium membership?

asking for a friend

[honest tulip]

i don't want an internship that badly

i hace two interviews lined up

i want a company with a good brand name or great learning experience

i think the former is out at this point

[ruby fossil]

I mean MindGeek is a pretty good brand name. They are like the leaders in their industry.

[idle cobalt]

go for a big names, learning experience not enough to get inteviews at big names after graduation

speaking from personal experience in canada

[placid dawn]

bru how can I get an internship when there are 2 job postings a day

[austere nebula]

canada moment 😎

[placid dawn]

amazon legit my only hope

[oblique crater]

yeah I'd say at this point, your best bet is to land a local non technical company or a startup

[placid dawn]

where do u find those

[austere nebula]

your school job board if it has one

[oblique crater]

either though irl connections or scoured across the web with odd names

[austere nebula]

i've had some good success with techintern

as well

[placid dawn]

lol they just made one like 2 months ago

about time

but nothing swe related

[austere nebula]

[oblique crater]

my official job title for the insurance company I worked at was summer student, so maybe try that keyword and you can land an IT gig with a bit of programming in it

then spin it to your advantage on your resume

[placid dawn]

was it a coop

[oblique crater]

no

[placid dawn]

usually local companies go thru coop to get $ from government

but I got rejected from coop

[oblique crater]

if the position doesn’t say coop you should at least apply

[storm stream]

For what it's worth, I got all my jobs outside of my school's shitty coop program

The ones that you mention with the govt kickback usually are 12 months minimum... they're useless

[tight thunder]

anyone do the part 1 new grad amazon sde assessment? if you have any tips, that would be greatly appreciated!

[gloomy nymph]

kanada

[errant raptor]

anybody heard about interning at glassdoor?

[honest tulip]

i just signed up

it's a wiatlist?

[hollow arrow]

Has anyone based in Canada interned in the US? Is it worth applying to American internships ? Or is it too much work with the visa and such

[storm stream]

Just apply man let the corporations worry about the visa process

Waterloo's website has good info on the J1 visa and all that shabang

[hollow arrow]

Ok thank you 👍

[analog current]

same, found better opportunities outside of my schools coop board lol

[storm stream]

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/facebook-owner-meta-to-build-canadian-engineering-hub-in-toronto-creating-2-500-new-jobs-1.5839440 why no Vancouver 🥲🥲

[storm stream]

Can I have their contact info pls 💕🙏🏻

[eternal fossil]

from what ive noticed

new grad positions have recruiters assigned to specific schools

[spiral prairie]

Ya I just had did my new grad remote interview for meta

[ruby fossil]

for 2023?

[spiral prairie]

Nope 2022

[ruby fossil]

ah icic

[idle cobalt]

How was it? Was it from the tagged ones on leetcode

[hot rapids]

Does anyone know when applications for Microsoft winter 2023 internships open up in Canada?

[spiral prairie]

Yes

[blissful nest]

Meta asked me a LC hard problem in my technical screening round last week..

[idle cobalt]

oof thats rough but hopefully you make it to final

[idle cobalt]

all 4 ? you are lucky

[spiral prairie]

No lol I mean just the phone screen one so just 2

And I got asked a lc hard in the oa lol

[shadow cobalt]

Same Lol

[zinc basin]

man these OAs are getting out of hand lol

[ashen pike]

do I have to prepare LC hard for big companies? a meta recruiter just contacted me

😂 is it possible that I only prepare LC medium and be super lucky

[blissful nest]

For meta, yes. I think you have to memorize the solutions for hard problems in Meta tag top 50. The hard problem meta asked me is LC 827.... which is hard to figure out the optimal solution in 20 min....

[ashen pike]

did you interview for Google? do they also ask for LC hard?

[blissful nest]

Generally speaking, 2 medium in the first round, I think I was "lucky" to meet medium + hard

[craggy moth]

20 min for hard 💀

[blissful nest]

No.... Google never sent me OA

[frozen umbra]

My friend interviewed for google. He didn’t get hards from what I remember. But they do ask hards

[frozen umbra]

Preparing most LC mediums are easy. Might as well prepare some hards as well. Metas interview process and questions are pretty light compared to others

But it depends on interviewer

[fickle juniper]

Brital 😫, are these Canada summer roles?

[frozen umbra]

Pretty sure this is meta new grad Toronto office

[fickle juniper]

Ohh icic

[blissful nest]

new grad

[ashen pike]

do you get those questions that from our leetcode-bot channel in the real interviews?

[frozen umbra]

Uhhh not sure what the leetcode bot does ngl. But I saw most of my questions from leetcode already

And even not, Ive heard of most of them from friends

[ashen pike]

lol

wish everyone good luck!

[vivid fiber]

LeetCode bot is just leetcode tagged questions from a few months ago

[wide aurora]

Anyone here do amazon new grad?

[gloomy nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-chad-gif-18386674

[vivid walrus]

ja

[eternal fossil]

honestly amazon new grad isnt bad at all

in terms of leetcode questions

[novel dome]

never gonna make to fanng 😭

sometimes lc easy cost me 2hrs of my life

[smoky cape]

I never touched lc in my life and landed faang DE dw

[novel dome]

reveal the secrets, good sire

[smoky cape]

The secret is

[idle cobalt]

tbh not getting to fang is not the end of the world

[smoky cape]

They didnt ask me traditional lc questions lol

[novel dome]

ik

[smoky cape]

I think they asked 1 lc easy equivalent

[novel dome]

just wanna flex on linkedin uk 🐒

[smoky cape]

And lots of sql

[eternal fossil]

where is this

[idle cobalt]

you do you but no point in rat race.

[eternal fossil]

what faang

[novel dome]

nah nah

[smoky cape]

Amazon

[novel dome]

im just tryin to retire early

im one lazy bastard

[eternal fossil]

cracked

[novel dome]

anyways, congratz

[smoky cape]

But pretty sure meta has similar process for DE

[idle cobalt]

your 20s and 30s is the peak for your body. again personal choice but I would rather enjoy them cause money you make in tech is still lot more than average jobs.

[sudden plaza]

best way to learn/practise sql?

[smoky cape]

Hackerrank and stratascratch

There's only like 150 questions on the internet

If u do all of them you'll be set for any sql interview

[honest tulip]

ppl applying to us companies how do u pick which ones that sponsor

cuz linkedin has like 500 postings in the past week

and i think 80% of them won't sponsor

so it's a waste of my time

[sudden plaza]

generally postings will say they sponser or not

idk if they say on linkedin but if u go to their careers page and read job description u can see

[honest tulip]

has anyone applied for datadog intern

[smoky cape]

I usually just see if Waterloo kids have worked at that company before

If they have then the company def sponsors

[honest tulip]

i know they do

it's just

don't you basically get ghosted if you say

yes to visa sponsorship

[smoky cape]

Nah if the company does sponsor tho

Why would they ghost

[honest tulip]

like i think they'd prioritize non-sponsorship people?

so unless they're really lacking in candidates

[oblique crater]

nah the companies that sponsor just want the best candidates

if that happens to be someone from loo or someone from london, they don't have a problem spending resources sponsoring them

[fickle juniper]

I just apply to all of them unless i know 100% they don't sponsor or it says in the jd

[sudden plaza]

same

[fickle juniper]

i mean the alternative is lying or stop needing sponsorship lol

[fickle juniper]

did they re-open? Last I heard they were full for both fall and summer

[stone folio]

anyone doing a internship in oakville this spring

looking to rent a place with some ppl

[steel escarp]

if ur doing master and be a canadian u dont need sponsorship right?

because technically ur eligible for a TN visa

[honest tulip]

for fulltime

not for intern

[fickle juniper]

https://calgaryherald-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/calgaryherald.com/business/local-business/gaming-giant-unity-opens-new-offices-in-calgary/wcm/b4ee0faa-b356-4b66-8649-6a60631e7e44/amp/

[sudden plaza]

yo where

[tawdry sable]

lakeshore convention center

[sudden plaza]

oh nice

i have a coop at oakville but its remote

[dark portal]

Geotab?

[sudden plaza]

nah ford

[gloomy nymph]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772856680261353502/959081656159981598/IMG_4591.jpg

kanada moment

[sudden plaza]

yes

[storm stream]

That's lit... That building is defs one of the nicest downtown... I wonder what the pay will be

[sudden plaza]

prolly still 🥜

[vivid fiber]

If they pay 90k+ that'd be really good

Esp considering that calgary is lcol (afaik)

[lucid berry]

They pay over 100k in Montreal so probably in the same ballpark

[stone folio]

ipex electrical

[placid dawn]

anyone got oa from convocean

[dark portal]

Srsly? Too new grads as well?

If they do, ima start making some unity projects

[lucid berry]

Yeah, new grad

I think

[dark portal]

Holy shit

Lmaooo.... I always liked Montreal

Long term I still wanna work in the US though

Fuck it

2 years in Montreal at unity then US is the plan lmao

[storm stream]

You can buy a 4 bedroom house for 600K... Come on down y'all 🤠

[oblique crater]

lcol compared to toronto or vancouver

but US cities with similar population sizes are pretty cheap

[oblique crater]

also noticed a small uptick in job postings in canada the last 24 hours

local companies might be starting to hire a bit more if you still haven't landed something

[vivid fiber]

Oh lol, sorry for my ignorance

[storm stream]

No no you good... That's maybe like MCOL in Canada?

[vivid fiber]

I don't really know the col of Alberta

[storm stream]

LCOL by SWE standards LOL

[sudden plaza]

thats crazy

[storm stream]

Ya LOL... That won't even get you an apartment in Vancouver

[fickle juniper]

New 2 bedroom apartment in a suburb of Van is 700k…

[storm stream]

Which suburb

[fickle juniper]

Like Surrey/Langley

Which are 40-1hr away from dt Van by car

[lucid berry]

4 bedroom house for 600k doesn't sound expensive

[gloomy nymph]

Kanada

[fickle juniper]

Hmm Amazon Fall is out for US, I wonder if Canadians are auto-rejected like for summer

[frozen umbra]

They won’t

[gloomy nymph]

Kaaaanada

[fickle juniper]

Hey guys I'm officially transferring to Waterloo

[gloomy nymph]

my condolences

big L

[fickle juniper]

Honestly would not mind spending summers in Cgy and rest of year in Van while working remotely

Just going camping/hiking every weekend at Yoho in the summer would be so nice

[fickle juniper]

I had to transfer to a bachelor of communications to make it work, but hopefully its worth it

[gloomy nymph]

I mean any uni will do the trick tbh

[fickle juniper]

I transferred from UBC CS did i fk myself?

I want to be SWE, maybe try for hft

Well damn

[untold nebula]

loooool

[frozen umbra]

This is a April fools joke

[oblique crater]

i sure hope so

[terse tartan]

@fickle juniper dang u became a loo traitor? rip bozo u wont be missed

[sudden plaza]

[steel escarp]

are you 🧢 ing?

🤣

no way right?

[fickle juniper]

ubc's awesome but I couldn't say no to loo after seeing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[steel escarp]

the whole west coast hates you now

[gloomy nymph]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/951275243635355648/959195222338859058/video0_1-1_1.mp4

[ruby fossil]

When will you be in toronto?

Ah crap I am there from June to Aug and was hoping in the off chance you'd be the same

[old tiger]

I'll be in Toronto June - (end of) Aug for Amazon, down for roommate-ing

[ruby fossil]

I am down to room together. I'll also be there for Amazon ^_^

[sudden plaza]

i didnt kno amazon had a toronto office

[ruby fossil]

Its about 1.5 hrs from downtown toronto but still toronto I guess

[sudden plaza]

nice

[zinc basin]

I'm pretty sure you are looking at the wrong one unless your are working at the fulfillment center.
If you are joining in a tech role, their office is in literally dt.
Or at least was till a year ago. If they have moved recently then I'm not sure

It is/used to be near Scotiabank arena on king

[ruby fossil]

Ah, sorry I was just being a turd 💩 . Yeah, it's downtown, but I think I'll be on the fulfillment team so maybe I'll go to the warehouse at some point.

Do some quick sort on them packages 🤓

[zinc basin]

Haha make sure no one's getting a pee break 😜

[ruby fossil]

Exactly, I need to optimize their schedules

I'll ask them to implement the adult diaper + camel pack

[zinc basin]

Add eye tracker to make sure they r only looking at the packages and not checking booties

[ruby fossil]

Yes, I think that fits quite well with the Insist on the Highest Standards LP. I can smell the profits already 🤑

[gloomy nymph]

Oh kanadaaaaaaaa

[pseudo notch]

Does Toronto have google office

[lucid berry]

Yes

[pseudo notch]

where

[worn vortex]

anyone here interviewed with varicent for a frontend role?

[ashen pike]

why not a general role

[vivid fiber]

Mayb becaus they want to do frontend?

What a weird q to ask

[lucid berry]

Lmao

[gloomy nymph]

oh kanaadaaaaaaa

[worn vortex]

i enjoy frontend, plus someone referred me to it without my knowledge

[eternal fossil]

they collecting some referral money off of you

[worn vortex]

lol facts

[cerulean gale]

What port of entry do y'all choose for TN visa if you are from Toronto?

[steel escarp]

Any good resource to rent housing in ottawa?

[craggy moth]

facebook marketplace? craiglist

[steel escarp]

Tyty. I had bad experience w fb market before so i wonder if there are other better options

[sudden spruce]

fb groups prolly better than fb marketplace

[steel escarp]

Ye ill try that tyty

[vivid fiber]

Kijiji as well

[steel escarp]

Tyty

[dark portal]

i've heard that the one on niagara falls is good

[placid dawn]

local fb groups

[steel escarp]

I will try lol

Tyty tho

[gloomy nymph]

there is no good housing in ottawa

[placid dawn]

been getting lotta oas from local companies

[honest tulip]

r u applying for fall

[wide aurora]

Anyone get Amazon offer lately and mind sharing TC

[frozen umbra]

For Canada office?

[frozen umbra]

111k base, 33k(1st year) + 34k (2nd year) sign on, 110k stonks vested over 4 years with 5 15 40 40

Stocks are USD, I believe, rest are cad

[wide aurora]

Did you negotiate that or it’s just standard?

[frozen umbra]

my friends offer

not mine

not sure if she negotiated or not

[odd trellis]

how does OSAP work with internships? (for those of you in co-op)

do ya'll go for interest-free status or full time?

[frozen umbra]

how long is your coop/internship?

[odd trellis]

10 weeks

[frozen umbra]

if its only 4 month, it doesnt matter

if your internship is more than 8-months, youll have to apply for interest free

This happened for a friend who extended his apple coop

[odd trellis]

a few from my school are applying for "full-time" studies and getting hella grants

[wide aurora]

Btw OSAP doesn’t accumulate interest until march 2023

[odd trellis]

their co-ops are all 16 months

[frozen umbra]

started to have to pay back in the middle of his apple internship

But as long as its < 4 month, your fine

Dont really need to worry about it, as your school will tell them that your still a student

[rocky pendant]

anyone here work at atlassian and is also p4 or greater by any chance?

i have some q's

[austere nebula]

Canada bad

that’s all I came here to say

[lucid berry]

[untold nebula]

[gloomy nymph]

x2

Oh Kanadaaaaaaa

[left plover]

Stupid question, but you can open a RRSP as an intern right? Like take your work income and shove it into your RRSP, or is your RRSP only for full time employment

[storm stream]

Of course 👍🏼

Anyone can open

[quiet ferry]

you could do it, but why? if you’ve already maxed out your TFSA, then you may want just a regular investing account since you wanna save ur RRSP room for when you’re working FT and getting taxed a lot

[left plover]

Working 2 internships at separate semesters so wanted to reduce my taxable income to lower amount, to basically barely get taxed at all

[placid dawn]

i cant even get 1

[fickle juniper]

Ur working 2 at the same time??

[left plover]

nah they're diff. semesters

[storm stream]

Mr @left plover is it money you're okay with putting away until you're retried? What's your plan?

[burnt rune]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/budget-housing-1.6412384

Wait this is OP wtf

[craggy moth]

what does tax-free in, tax-free out mean? We can withdraw whenever we want?

[burnt rune]

The way it sounded is like

It's a TSFA + RRSP combined

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smile-happy-good-boy-dog-smile-happy-good-boy-gif-21703225

[placid dawn]

is that gud

[hasty field]

I mean yea

[frozen umbra]

Unity for game dev, else im pretty sure theyre both equal in prestige. But take this with a grain of salt, since I donnt even know what hubspot is

[fickle juniper]

I rejected Unity for Hubspot fwiw, mostly because I could go to Boston if I did Hub. In Canada Hub pays more so at least u got that going for ya

[oblique crater]

wtf snitch on you to the professor? how old is he?

also didn't know you HAD to speak french in quebec that's fucked lol

[gloomy nymph]

"nemesis"

sorry but that's just cringe bruh

focus on yourself and you'll whoop anyone's ass

[lucid berry]

You don't need to lol

His teammate was just an asshole

[oblique crater]

so what basis does he have to go talk to the professor about it?

[idle cobalt]

Lmao that is not a thing.

[plain plover]

When we speak english in team meetings

[atomic musk]

i think unity has more recognition, but i wouldn't say either is more prestigious than the other, unless you're aiming for game dev. also wtf

[dark portal]

tfw when homes are gonna be 2 million dollars by 2027, and you gotta have a 200k downpayment

[plush rune]

lol mortgage interest rates are apparently estimated to go really high in a few years (apparently around the same as it was in the 90s)

housing prices should probably start to go down when that happens

[dark portal]

inflation is absolutely crippling our economy

talked to an economics professor of mine

and he said don't be surprised if interest rates go up to 3 - 4 %

[plush rune]

yea

[dark portal]

They used to be even higher than that lol

[plush rune]

so consequently housing prices should go down lol

fewer ppl being able to afford their mortgages

idk atleast thats what i heard

[dark portal]

not if rich foreigners keep scooping up housing

we're at a point where real estate commissions are more than 1% of our GDP

[dark portal]

just a heads up

when they say "foreigners" they're talking about individuals with adresses outside of canada

[plush rune]

also canada is banning foreigners from buying homes for the next 2 years

[dark portal]

you could have an address in canada, and you wouldnt be considered a foreigner

[dark portal]

lol but the students arent exempt

and guess how most foreign transactions are really made

ask yourself this... if foreigners are exempt from purchasing houses, then why haven't international students been included in the "foreigners" group?

[plush rune]

are international students not foreigners? lol

not a canadian citizen, not a PR

[plush rune]

source?

[dark portal]

they're not counted as foreigners lol

[plush rune]

??

they dont have PR, not canadian citizens

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/i-2.5/page-1.html

[dark portal]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-06/canada-to-ban-some-foreigners-from-buying-homes-as-prices-soar

This one is from Bloomberg, a very reputable company

The foreign-buyer ban won’t apply to students, foreign workers or foreign citizens who are permanent residents of Canada, the person said.

Permanent Residents should be allowed to buy housing, i agree

[plush rune]

ah i thoughtu said international students dont qualify as "foreign" lol

[dark portal]

ohh noooo lol

my bad for the misunderstanding

[plush rune]

ye np

[dark portal]

but yeah, the federal government knows very well, that this new "ban" won't do shit lol

they just wanna make it seem like they're helping the situation lol

[fickle juniper]

Until we ban immigration (which of course we wont/shouldnt) housing prices won't go down

[dark portal]

Exactly

We shouldn't ban immigration

But, we have to start holding our government accountable for their policies that are intended to fuck over Canadians

OECD predicts that we'll have the worst growth out of 30 countries (mainly advanced first world economies) for the next 40 years

At the same time, literally all of our growth happens from real estate and a bit from tech + natural resources

We won't be in the G20, let alone the G7, with the trajectory that we're taking

[idle cobalt]

Don't forget a good chunk of tech talent moves from canada to usa

[dark portal]

Yeah, thats my plan lol

Canada could have an incredibly robust economy, if we weren't ruled by clowns

[craggy moth]

wouldnt it be 400k cause you need 20% down

[dark portal]

Maybe

[craggy moth]

if a house is over 1 million you need to pay 20% down

[dark portal]

It's 5% for first time buyers, but there's a limit based on income

[craggy moth]

Pretty sure 5% is for below 500k houses is it not

[dark portal]

I did the math, and at a 200k salary (which would put you close to the top 1% in Canada, you only qualify for a mortgage of about 900k)

[dark portal]

That's actually ridiculous if true

No house is worth under 500k these days lol

[craggy moth]

200k can get you a lot more than a 900k mortage

[dark portal]

This was before tax

But even then, an incredibly small fraction of people in Canada make 200k after taxes

Especially because your salary would have to be 400k+

[craggy moth]

taxes take away so much

[dark portal]

Lol yeah

Which makes me wonder.... what are young people in Canada gonna do?

[craggy moth]

It's pretty difficult to make 200k+ in Canada, most people I know are planning to get US jobs for new grad or after a few years

much better pay for almost every company

[dark portal]

Yup that's my ultimate goal

I'm at my 4th internship rn at Blackberry

5th one this summer will be at IBM

[craggy moth]

damn thats good, I didnt get a single one yet

[dark portal]

I graduate in 2024, and I'm busting my ass off to get a US offer

[halcyon dove]

cry, what else

[dark portal]

When do you graduate?

[craggy moth]

it depends how many co-op's I'll do, I'm just finishing up second year

So i could grad in 2024 if i want

[dark portal]

I swear the shit that both the conservatives and liberals have been doing would be considered treason in most European countries lol (slightly exaggerating)

[dark portal]

I'm in third year, but I'm in a 5 year program. Try to do 3 coops at well known companies

Big companies

Don't have to be faangs

But still, the name should be recognizable

[craggy moth]

yea thats the plan, I'm going to seek for most of my remaining semesters. Hopefully finish with 3, maybe 4

[dark portal]

If you don't get a well known company, make sure you have the opportunity to do ALOT of work, and very strong resume points

[dark portal]

Yeah, hold out on graduation. Maybe take the summer off and just do side projects + leetcode and then apply for winter 2023 internships

[craggy moth]

I mainly need the leetcode practice, I had a bunch of interviews for this summer but didnt do well on some of them

I did good on AMD interview recently but the co-op is a 12 month. And i dont really want to do 12 months at a single company

I tried asking for a 4 or 8 but they said they only taking 12 months

[dark portal]

I see.... here's what I'm personally doing:

• learning concepts that I'm not comfortable with on leetcode learn.

• creating data structures and their corresponding Algorithms from scratch

• learning design patterns from grokking

• do all the questions from the data structures section from Elements Of Programming Interviews (I haven't started this yet)

• Do Blind 100

[dark portal]

Take the offer. Trust me. AMD is a reputable company, and you'll have a decent name + solid experience

After AMD, try your luck with a FAANG / unicorn. You'll make it to the OA / interview stage for alot of them

[craggy moth]

sounds good, planning to start grokking and have done some blind 75

[dark portal]

That's good

I'm trying to gain a solid understanding of trees (binary trees, bsts), backtracking, heaps, tries, graphs, and graph Algorithms

[craggy moth]

I know its pretty reputable, but wished it was just shorter in length

[dark portal]

True

I know a guy from my super small and not so well-known school that did a 16 month internship at IBM, then got a Google internship right after

Quite honestly, I would rank AMD above IBM

[craggy moth]

holy shit 16 months

[dark portal]

So... that kinda let's you know where you'd generally be if you took your shot with AMD

[dark portal]

Yup

And trust me... 4 months isn't nearly enough time to make a decent impact at a company

All my internships have been 4 months long, and although I got work done, I don't think I've made a solid impact at any of the places I've been at tbh

Which is why I'm gonna see if IBM can extend my summer internship into the fall, so I can bolster my resume further, and actually learn alot more + make a bigger impact

[craggy moth]

But does it not look better on resumes, having multiple companies

[dark portal]

Sure. It does... to recruiters

[craggy moth]

good luck

[dark portal]

But to engineers, who've actually worked in the industry, they know damn well that 4 months isn't enough time to make a meaningful impact haha

[craggy moth]

true

[craggy moth]

Did your response rate from companies increase the more internships you listed?

[dark portal]

So, yeah, I mean... at the end of the day, it's up to you, but if I had the opportunity to take a 12 month internship at AMD from 0 internships, I would do so in a heartbeat

[dark portal]

Yup

But the name of the company matters too

I'm just gonna be honest lol

And AMD is definitely a solid name

So yeah... if the offer is still on the table, I'd accept it

[craggy moth]

All the companies that interviewed me were mid sized companies and banks, smaller companies and startups all rejected me. It's weird 😂

[dark portal]

Lol it really is

[craggy moth]

I did the interview 2 days ago and it went perfect and the intervier was like we'll make you an offer soon. So I think its an offer maybe

[dark portal]

I have a feeling that in these smaller companies, the engineers are the ones who go through resumes, so they can sort out the BS lol

[dark portal]

It's an offer.

Bro, take it.

Like... actually. Take it lol

[craggy moth]

I have to wait for the official email first

[dark portal]

Yeah, whenever you get it, accept it, and take the offer

AMD will get you far

You'll damn near certainly get interviews from FAANGs for future internships / new grad roles

[craggy moth]

thanks, I'll definitely consider it

[dark portal]

For sure

[fickle juniper]

U could do 4 months and quit

[dark portal]

wouldn't that get him potentially blacklisted from the company, though?

[craggy moth]

would it cause any issues in the future when companies do background checks?

[dark portal]

I think companies do background checks just to make sure your employment history lines up, and you don't have any egregious criminal offenses

I'm not sure if it'll mention the reason for why you no longer hold the position

[eternal basalt]

i dont thinm u shuld @craggy moth unless u have like 0 internships and are a junior

ur post-poning ur grad date by a whole year and losing out on a year of FT pay

[south rose]

Anyone looking for a roomate in Toronto?

my friend is looking. He works at IBM

[dark portal]

damn... i'm gonna be at ibm, too

is he going to be up in markham?

[south rose]

Yeah

But I think he’s gonna move to Toronto

[dark portal]

if so, and if he's cool with having me as a roommate i'd be down

[south rose]

Have you found a place

[dark portal]

still looking

what about him?

[south rose]

Do you avg know rent in Markham ?

[dark portal]

do i know average rent?

[south rose]

Yeah

I heard Toronto is cheaper

Not sure tho

[dark portal]

uhhh.... from what i've seen.... about 900 - 1200/month for a single room

and i'd guess that 2 bedrooms would go for 2000/month (split 1000 each)

do you think i can get in touch with your friend?

[south rose]

Yeah dm me

[craggy moth]

well I have 0 so far and based on credits completed I'll be a junior next semester

[frozen umbra]

I know people who extended their internship to be like 12months or more. Sure you lose out on a year of full time pay, but you’ll probably learn a lot from the internship, which will help a shit ton more at finding a better job for full time than having no internships

[oblique crater]

if you're not immediately moving to the US for newgrad and aren't in loo, it's not as easy as you think to land 5 four months internships at top companies, a 12 month offer at AMD is really solid and will you put ahead of the pack

[timid tartan]

On the other hand, not taking the internship could limit his FT options too. I think there are pros and cons here

[storm stream]

I did a one year internship when I had no other option

Apply during your internship and quit if you find something else

[storm stream]

No rush man... Get your experience level and resume to the point where you feel like you can be competitive for new grad jobs.

Some people do it in no time, some take longer than usual

Personally it took me a very very long time... I been in "4th year" forever

[sudden spruce]

12 is a long time

you could do 3 different internships in that time, but yeah you could quit if you find something better

[fickle juniper]

Nope idt so. U might get blacklisted from the company tho

[sudden spruce]

you probably wouldn't get blacklisted as long as you leave on good terms

[craggy moth]

[sudden spruce]

oh wait i meant to respond to eth

[gloomy nymph]

[dark portal]

IMO, 8 month - 1 year internships are very solid for gaining experience and making good connections

8 - 12 months at AMD, IBM, Cisco, etc... (i still consider these to be good companies, if i'm being dead honest) is different than 8 - 12 months at TD, CIBC, or a no-name company with a not so exciting tech stack

Of course, with companies like AMD, IBM, and Cisco, the tech stack matters as well

For reference, I have a 4 month Software Engineer Intern position coming up at IBM, where i'll be using: Node, Express, Mongo, React, GraphQL, and maybe Go, to work for the IBM Cloud Team. I'll have the option to work on creating API's, or UI, or both

If i can extend this IBM internship into the Fall, I'd do so

[tight thunder]

anyone here do the amazon new grad sde final rounds? (canada) any insight would be greatly appreciated!

[storm stream]

Blind 75 and Amazon LPs

And Amazon tagged

The behavioural is really important, familiarize yourself with these questions https://www.levels.fyi/blog/amazon-leadership-principles.html

[tight thunder]

Ah thank ya

Any sys design?

[eternal fossil]

pinterest is still hiring uni grad SWE for canada

i got rejected like

a month ago

resume rejected

like how tf do i even get an interview

its kinda crazy i got rejected

[vivid fiber]

Pinterest has a super high hiring bar

So it's not that crazy tbh

[eternal fossil]

ah makes sense

[storm stream]

Nah not from what I've seen

[storm stream]

Is your resume cracked? I got rejected too their office is very small in Toronto so imagine it's slim pickings

[steel escarp]

heard they do extend

mine offer was like 4/8 months

[dark portal]

same!!

i hope i get the extension

cause lowkey my manager is a super nice guy

and the tech stack + work seems interesting af ngl

[steel escarp]

ye but i think u should still grind for fall

then the extension will be just a safe option

[normal jetty]

Aodvjfjmw

[raw crystal]

what i dont get is, dnt most of the "elite" new grds already have offers by now

so if a company is still hiring rn they should consider tht I feel like

i feel like eventually they realize their hiring bar is too high and end up lowering it towards the end of hiring when they factor in that most high value candidates are already locking in offers

[idle cobalt]

yes the good one have an offer but people don't stop interviewing. I know people who have accepted like 2-3 offers at one time and then renege.

it can also help with negotiating.

again this mostly happens for NG.

[raw crystal]

yeah thats a fair point

im just salty pinterest always resume rejects me :p

[idle cobalt]

lol yeah I interviewed for new grad and trust me their bar ain't lower

got asked hards

[raw crystal]

ive been asked more hards than meds this season

seems like eventually in a couple years they are only gonna ask hards

or competitive programming questions

[idle cobalt]

yeah I mean personally would bet on changes in the way people are hired.

[raw crystal]

yeah for sure

[idle cobalt]

There has been ton of demand and most people are lazy or aware of how ridiculous it has gotten

google's leading the charge

recently heard they are making changes

[raw crystal]

i know people who got hired at faang for memorizing leetcode but they cant even use an api

or really?

you mean in terms of the process or the technical qs

[idle cobalt]

yeah this and also if someone is doing specialized work, they don't have time to grind leetcode to being with.

[idle cobalt]

i saw on blind

[raw crystal]

i hope they do smth to make it less lottery

i saw someone get two sum and contains duplicate for their fb phone screens

[idle cobalt]

that would always be thing at the screening level

unless you have referral

[raw crystal]

even referrals tho are kind of saturated too

good resume + referral still gets screened out sometimes

but i guess at a certain point it is luck just bc the sheer number of applicants

theres only so much u can do

[oblique crater]

Pinterest and Snap in Toronto have small offices and are hyper competitive from what i've heard

[storm stream]

Anyone notice system design starting to creep into new grad interviews worth a few big companies?

[raw crystal]

yeah ive seen a couple

[spiral prairie]

it will be the norm by next year

[storm stream]

Whereas Amazon is like weighing the behavioural super heavy, kinda the opposite trend

I feel the behavioural/culture fit is more important than system design

Not sure where they're going with these interviews

It's getting more and more stupid

[raw crystal]

when u think about it instead of going to uni if u spend the 4 years just self teach code and interview prep you actually have a good shot at doing well

since you'll have more time for projects too

[storm stream]

LOL true

[raw crystal]

ofc the "degree" might open more doors

[storm stream]

It's supposed to be about "problem solving" and seeing our approach to breaking down a problem

But let's be honest... Most companies aren't that sophisticated in their assessment

They just want an optimal solution

[raw crystal]

yeah thats a huge issue i think^

bc theres people who have never seen the question but get really close to optimal solution from just problem solving

but they will lose to someone who instantly gets optimal bc they've seen the q before

[opal drift]

yall tried msft?

they seem more lax for summer 22

[vivid fiber]

Ya, I think Snap Toronto had a super high hiring bar, which caused them to have to lower their standards recently.

[vivid fiber]

Tried applying? Yeah, but I always get resume rejected 😔.

[storm stream]

More lax how?

[opal drift]

friend got in with just 1 interview

and 1 LC problem

mby thats just ML

[storm stream]

How nice

I'm gonna be applying for new grad next summer

[dark portal]

the only difference now is that google is going to be asking even more domain specific questions

[idle cobalt]

i mean tbh i would prefer that

[dark portal]

this can potentially backfire, and i'll tell you why... say you have a bunch of different candidates... the position is related to distributed systems. 1 candidate has made it to the final round and they have a phd in distributed systems. The other candidates are very solid and have interned/worked at a big tech company before and smaller companies as well (this is for early careers btw). Now, it's so painfully obvious that the guy who has a phd in distributed systems is going to absolutely steamroll this interview, even if the other candidates do fine.

Okay, but then you have to be fine with the fact that, master's and phd students are often times going to significantly outperform you in interviews related to domain specific knowledge

^^The example I gave is on the rougher side, but it can definitely happen

I'm cool with being asked harder lc questions, because the alternative is more take-home assessments (that are often times even longer than the actual interviews), and being asked: "Create a RESTFUL API following all the properties using the following backend technologies, and integrate it with this frontend"

The LC grind definitely sucks, but it's hell of a lot worse to grind a multitude of frameworks / technologies to get to advanced knowledge

[idle cobalt]

yeah tbh I would want that. those people have devoted significant part of their life studying for something. It makes sense to question them on those things. Anyone can memorize bunch of solutions and make it through.

Imagine you work for 5 years on something planning to switch jobs you start from zero

[dark portal]

that may be the case. But then, you might just have to forget about faang's / unicorn's unless you have a master's or phd

at least leetcode / systems design questions, give you a chance

[idle cobalt]

sure but it would never come to that. 1) Supply is tight 2) Master and Phd all depends from what college you went etc. There is a reason companies prefer someone who has gone to Univ A vs Univ B.

[dark portal]

Sure, it's not ideal that alot of candidates literally memorize solutions, but it's also not ideal to start asking difficult questions related to a specific domain in CS.

With the LC process, you don't narrow yourself down to a certain narrow domain.

[idle cobalt]

Making it in tech after couple YoE should be on two things 1) domain knowledge 2) You experience in scaling things.

[dark portal]

So, if you go to a shit school where the admin doesn't know what it's doing, and grind relentlessly, but you applied to a SWE position and got considered for a role where your domain knowledge is weak because your school didn't teach these concepts in depth, then you're shit out of luck, is what you're saying

[dark portal]

I agree

But it shouldn't be the case as a New grad

and PHD / Master's students are considered new grads too, lol

I wouldn't mind being asked LC hards all the time as a new grad (i've been asked these before, i know that they're absolutely brutal), if it meant that I had time to prepare for it right now, 2 years before my graduation date

i wouldn't even mind being asked systems design questions (hard ones, too)

[idle cobalt]

The reason we are seen absurd hiring LC questions at the moment is so much supply of technically what you and I would label as new grad fresh out of college bootcamps etc. Everyone grinds leetcode and so that just pushes the bar up every year. Not to mention CS is one of the most popular majors at any Univ and then you are again competing with students who have done math, stats etc

[dark portal]

But, the moment i have to know advanced domain knowledge that's taught at the master's or phd level (as a new grad), is the moment where i'll have to go back to get a master's / phd, which is many times more harder than grinding lc + systems design

[dark portal]

i'd say most students don't even grind leetcode

and of those that do, most won't grind enough to consistently solve lc hards

oh, and i agree with your statement. But, i think the best solution is to have even harder questions + systems design, and as a final step ask domain specific knowledge

I don't disagree with your statement on candidates being asked domain specific questions. All i'm trying to say is that, it should be reserved for one of the final rounds, and maybe 1 or 2 rounds.

[idle cobalt]

It is simple whatever the job reqs you test on those. if its frontend position ask question related to fronted. Similar to how people interview for every other job. No one answers accounting questions at interview for a marketing role.

[dark portal]

Lol, but the skills are transferable

LC teaches you problem solving

When you get asked LC hards you learn to solve extremely difficult programming problems (where you must systematically break down problems and come up with a solution)

After 4 internships, I can tell you that's more or less what you have to do (if you're assigned to a decent team on a good role)

Asking me to create a react app with graphql, and integrating that with a RESTful Web Service on the backend as a layered system (which isn't difficult btw), can have so many solutions (this would be for a full stack role)

Often times, the candidate that has the "best" UI will be the winner. One interviewer will like a certain UI over the other interviewer

BTW, when i say solutions i mean different UI's

Once again, i don't necessarily disagree with you, it's just that stuff like this should be reserved to the very end. Interviewers should first see if candidates have the required problem solving skills and only then should they move on to application-based problems

[idle cobalt]

yeah good luck finding candidate who meet those criteria. The reason they want to overhaul in the first place so more qualified people apply lmao.

[dark portal]

what?

qualified people are applying

bro... what?

they're just not getting through

i think you meant to say qualified people making it through interview rounds

[raw crystal]

i think he means theres room for unqualified people to get in

given the current process of leetcode only qs

and lottery difficulty in technical qs

[idle cobalt]

if you are masters student working at some company you really have no incentive to leave that position and join another company cause of these standarads.

[dark portal]

why not?

[idle cobalt]

LC\

[dark portal]

what if the other company pays you double

[dark portal]

ohh lmao

i see

my b

you do have an incentive lmao

[idle cobalt]

well when you are in research money is not everything and sometimes not even the isse

cause of grants, funding etc

[dark portal]

going from 200k --> 400k is totally an incentive to do lc problems

[dark portal]

i do undergrad research, and one of the reasons i do it for is the money?

[idle cobalt]

not everyone is you my guy

[dark portal]

ML Research Assistant... using torch, go, node, react, and kubernetes (this'll be most of it)

[dark portal]

nah i'm just trynna point out that people have different incentives for different stuff... things are alot more nuanced than you think they might be

[idle cobalt]

yes for sure Im just trying to make sense of why things are changing.

Change is inevitable right?

[dark portal]

yes it is

but it's not gonna change over night, and it won't completely be over hauled either

i don't even disagree with you completely

i just think the domain specific questions should be geared more towards the last set of interviews, and for new grad roles maybe 1 or 2 rounds of this MAX

[oblique crater]

Google is not gonna ask domain specific knowledge questions to a newgrad position

or if they do it's not gonna require a phd or masters in that domain to pass the interview

[frozen umbra]

No one’s going to ask domain specific questions to a new grad, unless your applying to a specific job

[oblique crater]

it feels like their main pivot is to remove team matching out of the equation because it's losing them a lot of talent that are getting similar offers without the hassle of waiting months to get matched to a team

at the SDEII and above, you might see people fit more into niches and teams hiring specifically for ML devs/ Distributed systems etc and that's where domain knowledge might play a larger factor

[storm stream]

Apple and Tesla do it that way... all their interviews are domain specific

[zinc basin]

so is google moving away from leetcode?

[zinc basin]

ML interviews even for intern positions can be domain specific.
really depends what company, role and team you are going for

[zinc basin]

but they also use leetcode for screening right?

[oblique crater]

yeah 100%, smaller unicorns and startups want devs that require minimal ramp up and so that kind of knowledge is particularly useful

[flint willow]

Anyone here interviewing with meta atm?

[dire dawn]

Anyone currently interviewing for senior roles in Canada and wants to connect, dm me. I am looking to connect with folks actively interviewing to share interview experience.

[pseudo notch]

What does domain specific mean

[old tiger]

More focused to some specific subdomain of CS like ML or web design (that will be more relevant for the job) vs general questions like leetcode

[honest tulip]

Ugh, I’m not gonna have a job this summer

This sucks

[novel dome]

when u just finished applying for summer

and fall alrdy started

[placid dawn]

another day... another 0 internships posted in canada

[gloomy nymph]

kanada

[cursive blaze]

Eh I’d say hiring cycle for interns is wrapped up for the most part at least for Summer. Fall will hopefully pick up soon ish. But depends on the company and locations

[upbeat bronze]

i am

[storm stream]

How's your resume?

[honest tulip]

It’s not outstanding but it’s fine. Star bullet points, ats friendly formatting, decent projects

Blah blah

It got me 5 interviews / 150-200 apps

Which I think is okay enough

[placid dawn]

cant wait to compete with other 600 people for the same 2 jobs

[cursive blaze]

where you applying? there's tons of local smaller companies the hire interns often

least that's my experience in alberta

I currently work at a telecom and we hire probably 10-20 co-ops each cycle , and at least the same number of new grads if not more a yr.

[placid dawn]

where do u see that

[craggy moth]

canada postings have been dead for a whole month

[fickle juniper]

For Canada for sure fall will pick up again soon

ppl get offers right until May so I wouldn't give up

[cursive blaze]

Where are you based out of? I’ve had lots of friends reach out to companies and find jobs that way as well

Even before a posting is up

[cursive blaze]

Yep 100%!

[honest tulip]

Where r the postings in Canada

[ruby fossil]

MindGeek was open a couple weeks ago 🙃

[placid dawn]

how do I know what companies to email if I dont know they exist

im in Regina

[cursive blaze]

https://ca.indeed.com/jobs?q=Software co-op&l=Regina%2C SK&vjk=af70735f46a0d831 I mean the pay ain't anything crazy but take the experience

any experience looks good honestly. my path was some IT summer job -> which led into 1 yr co-op software dev -> 1 yr full time dev role -> and now landing as a dev 2 at one of the Canadian tech unicorns

[untold nebula]

I've cold emailed startups that weren't even hiring coops and got a summer job through that way

[placid dawn]

office clerk?

[cursive blaze]

sorry indeed sucks for job sharing

it was this company https://luscinia.ca/careers/

[placid dawn]

nice thx

[storm stream]

That's pretty good man, it's just a matter of time... It took me until 4th year to get internships... If you think it's your interview performance, take some time to relax and hop back on the interview grind and do some mocks as well

[dark portal]

bro, where?

like... what postings?

[novel dome]

I meant as in I gotta start prepping my resume n such for the fall

[dark portal]

why don't you just use the same resume?

[south rose]

If anyone is looking for a roommate In Toronto hmu I have a friend that’s looking

June 1st move in

[novel dome]

gotta update it with the new info and stuff

takes me forever to write a single sentence talkin abt what i did

[eternal fossil]

canada dry af

got resume rejected from bmo

not sure what the catch is

ive been told i gotta enter with a referral

true ?

[dark portal]

for big banks?

not too sure

i've got interviews pretty much every single time i applied after i got my first internship

cibc and rbc, mostly

but i would only go for them, if i was tight on money for a particular semester

i was actually shocked when i learned that their software engineers use stuff like elastic search, php, and other outdated tech. The work will probably be old / not excessively hard, but i would rather take a 50k job at a startup using go, node, rust, react, and doing alot of different work (only for 1 year MAX though), over a 90k role at a big bank using shitty tech

[eternal fossil]

yeah i already rejected rbc

it wasnt a good team

i know that bmo is ramping their tech side up

[vivid fiber]

Is elastic search outdated?

[dark portal]

first release was in 2010

before that i hadn't heard of it

but all their other tech was extremely outdated

and some were still migrating from python2 - python 3

i dont know how tf lol

[frozen umbra]

It shouldn’t be… it’s common for databases to use elastic search to search for information

[austere nebula]

what

elastic search is not outdated

elasticsearch literally runs some of the largest text search services on this planet

discord runs elasticsearch for messaging text search

[vivid fiber]

How does being released in 2010 make it outdated?

[cursive blaze]

All the roles I’ve seen for RBC seemed like a relatively decent tech stack

Roles in Calgary that is , think they have a new office

[gloomy nymph]

Oh Kanada

[plush rune]

LMAO

[placid dawn]

ive been rejected from every bank

[eternal fossil]

Pain

[vivid fiber]

Same 😔

[fickle juniper]

Ya me too lol

[dark portal]

That doesn't make it outdated

I pointed out that it was first released in 2010

[dark portal]

I got a referral to BMO and I got rejected. Applied later on without a referral and got the interview

[untold nebula]

its literally all rng lol

[fickle juniper]

Banks just really hate good swes (jokes)

[dark portal]

I think more banks are gonna try to re-position themselves as tech companies in the coming Years

[dark portal]

Kinda like what Goldman Sachs did a couple of years ago... they tried telling everyone that they're a tech company lol

[fickle juniper]

I almost feel like it's the other way around, like Apple with their credit card

Probably a bit of both

[dark portal]

Yeah maybe

[rocky pendant]

bmo is actually troll

interviewed me to tell me that i would be working on something called ISAM: "IBM Security Access Manager"

literally just writing config files

even though job description said software dev

id stay away from the banks unless you're working at capital markets or willing to do lots of side projects to stay relevant

[eternal fossil]

sounds like bmo

[steel escarp]

ye its kinda devops stuff some non-tech companies called it software dev

my prev company called those positions as business analyst/ application developers 🤣

[dark portal]

loool fucking cibc

"application developer"... like bro... just call it software developer and act normal like everyone else

tf is the point of writing application developer

[dark portal]

if you took that position, i'd actually feel for you ngl

imagine working on ibm security manager from like... the 80s lol

[steel escarp]

Ye i heard from my manager that business side doesnt like swe that much

[dark portal]

which is actually not very smart

[steel escarp]

Especially old boomer non tech company

[dark portal]

it's so dumb

[rocky pendant]

the guys interviewing me seemed so rude too

these guys wouldnt even turn their cameras on

[dark portal]

bro.... same!!!

[fickle juniper]

I remember when I interviewed for technical intern for IBM deep blue, it was a business analyst/consultant who interviewed me to see if I met the “technical bar”

[rocky pendant]

thats when i learned to be grateful for the other offers i had cause some poor guy is gonna have to do that

[steel escarp]

I think consultant in ibm has somewhat of tech background

[fickle juniper]

Pretty sure she did not know the answers to the qs she was asking

[dark portal]

and mf's came 10 minutes late... i'll never forget when i was interviewing with rbc, and this one chick asks me if i know java? I respond with "yes", she says "okay", and then leaves the fucking meeting.... the other interviewers had to play it off lmao

[steel escarp]

But more like system analyst or stuff like that

[steel escarp]

Oh lol i had the same experience

[rocky pendant]

LOOL

[dark portal]

yup... i took an offer from a startup for my second internship that paid 18/hr over cibc's "application developer intern" position... so happy i did that

[steel escarp]

I thought it was just me

[fickle juniper]

That is a chad move ngl

[rocky pendant]

these banks have no respect man

[steel escarp]

Ye idk i dont have good experience w those banks

[dark portal]

i'll be dead honest, if i was given a role at ibm with a shit tech stack, i wouldnt have taken it... thankfully the ibm cloud team is really good, and i'll be doing a fuck ton of stuff with a modern tech stack