canada

[devout nacelle]

💀

mf 40% is huge

[rocky sage]

Nah. No reply after the video interview. Did you?

[solid fog]

yeah i did

[devout nacelle]

agreed

[inner trench]

loo kids talm about what holds non loo kids back 😂 😂

i'm tired boss 💔

It means a lot when ~60% of an intern class is reserved for two schools.

I’ll be brief but one of the biggest implications here is that someone with that exact same experience at a non-loo school will not get the process while someone at loo does.

[lyric sphinx]

on kirk, it’s not like they complain all day

they apply diligently and make projects just like loo kids

just don’t have the same opportunities so naturally they get less

[safe light]

🙄

for the love of god

[safe light]

bro these are ngmi statements

literally who cares about shopify

or WS

like it's just a company, there's 100rds of local canadian companies u can work for

focus on urself bro

stop simping for loo bro

[inner trench]

I've been seeing you here for a while and you've ran the "who cares about XYZ company" for a while

Let's be real shop or WS as a first or second internship sets you up pretty well for the rest

You're less likely to get FAANG if you do something like Nokia instead

And it's not only shopify and ws

Pin does the same thing and so do most of the other companies in canada today (if you ask around, you'll learn there's a preference for waterloo students everywhere)

You gotta realize that if the non-loo issue comes up so often in this chat, then there's probably something wrong

Tbh if i ran a company i'd prolly do the same thing, so i can't complain 😂

[zinc knot]

Party spittin fax

[inner trench]

Krappa my #1 supporter fr

[zinc knot]

I gotchu nmw bby

[wet pewter]

the only way we can solve this issue is by ruining the name of loo

give them free AI credits so they become stupider and cheat on assignments

[inner trench]

It's not about it being a majority of loo students. it's about haivng specific quotas for loo (regardless of year). and these specific quotas make it more likely that a loo student would get these internships as their first or second.

perhaps it helps to phrase this in a different way, which is that i've only ever seen loo students do these internships as their first/second. having specific quotas helps with that.

this "majority of loo students don't get XYZ, so loo isn't privileged" argument needs to stop

the point was that these schools provide more opportunities than the rest, so someone with the same experience will get better processes at one of those two schools than somewhere else

there's no point in attacking a specific point of the argument

the best path forward here is to acknowledge that loo will have an unfair advantage, and there's nothing we can do to change that

i just wanna make sure that nobody else says that "there's nothing special about loo"

also this is the definition of what a "target school" is but on steroids. this has influenced recruiting in other industries for so long and it's funny that people in CS are just waking up to the fact that your school matters

[unreal field]

bro are you kidding, shop is hiring anyone with a pulse for first /2nd internship from loo

[vital palm]

hi, everyone

I am looking for the partner for the business

DM if you are interested

[regal gorge]

sure but thats bc these employers recognize waterloo is a more reliable talent pool

i don't think it's unfair

😡

how's the IBM auto OA btw?

[cold geyser]

ibm is auto?

[regal gorge]

yes

i applied to 2 roles got the OA immediately

[cold geyser]

[regal gorge]

to be fair i actually don't know where the link is they just sent me the email confirming that they'll send it to me

[lost bison]

1 easy 1 medium lc

[unreal field]

loo vs the rest argument: weekly on cscd

[wet pewter]

Loo is falling off bro

Robinhood used to be only loo allowed

Now they want a more diverse talent pool

[balmy quarry]

Orange julep swe

Kelloggs swe

[wet pewter]

Whatnot is still a Waterloo only company

Someone gotta email the ceo and let them know Kanata up next

[wet pewter]

I love instigating the weekly debate

[unreal field]

1pass is waterloo heavy, bloomberg, meta, etc etc

super

[celest granite]

Why debate university students outcomes? Just look at linkedin alumni stats and see where they went. This is like debating what the temperature is. https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/25/the-idea-that-university-degrees-dont-matter-is-a-silicon-valley-fantasy/

[orchid hedge]

does anyone know what to expect from intact’s 1 hour swe intern interview

[lyric sphinx]

yea

saw two loo students with 2300+ cf ratings

obviously these are the people that get the outrageous outcomes

[safe light]

the difference between ws, shopify and nokia is not that great

the recuriter looking at your resume for FAANG isn't putting any speical enphasis on these companies

as long as you've done an internship at a startup / tech company and it seems you worked on something interesting you will probably pass the resume screen

Even you look at the stats, that are normalized by graduating class size, by linkedin

Yeah more loo students per captia are going to FAANG, but these numbers don't paint like a story that it's only waterloo students getting these postions

And you have to look at the fact that most students in these universities don't really care about going to FAANG.

[dense crown]

i think biggest advantages of loo are the fact that ur forced to get internships early on, and that getting ur first/second internship is easier than other schools since waterlooworks' cycle 1b and 2 usually have startup/small company exclusive postings for waterloo ppl

[safe light]

Yeah, i think it's culture etc

Yeah

[dense crown]

yea

if ur cracked ul make it whether ur at loo or not

[safe light]

imo you'll even get better outcomes than loo students cuz you aren't forced to take a bad internship

and you graduate sooner

idk i read this chat

and it's all mental shackles

people just dooming that it's over for them cuz they don't go to waterloo

or that they are missing out on oppertunities and shit

depressing to read tbh

the biggest advantage of waterloo is convincing other uni students that they won't make it because they didn't go to loo

[dense crown]

theres a lot of survivorship bias too tbh, like not everyone at loo ends up at faangmulamogus or whatever

people are overexposed to the top 20% or so

[safe light]

Yah

i've posted here many studies before that show if you had the grades to get into a top school and didn't go,

your outcomes are going to be the same as those that did go to the top school

[fast parrot]

Grades don’t mean shit but if I agree if u had what it took to get in, u would succeed regardless of where u went

[unreal field]

oml this argument again @inner trench

[inner trench]

This story has changed a lot. From my experience, a lot of students at these universities actually care and want to apply. They take CS courses, do leetcode, and fail resume screens.

[inner trench]

Also this is a lie. There’s a reason why people ask “prev?” when you get some offer.

And even if a recruiter pushes you through, there’s typically a stackrank that’s conducted by leadership. Who do you think wins that? Someone w shop prev or Nokia prev?

Hardly overstated actually

[inner trench]

This has to be bait 😂😂😂

@unreal field u see this shit?

No what’s not overstated is how much the loo name helps

FAANG+

No u keep saying most and it’s triggering me bru

I’m saying if someone were to pass the screen w/out prevs, it’d be a loo student

That’s a different argument

I disagree

Yea this has to be bait

The game we’re in is all about status and loo wins

That’s the summary

[safe light]

this is bullshit and you know it, there is no stackrank, once u pass resume review it's all up to ur performance in the interview bruh

[safe light]

literally who cares what people think

Companies pipelines aren't gonna care where u worked if it's not another FAANG or OAI etc. for intern

WS and Nokia might as well be the same

[inner trench]

Nope it’s not

Aren’t u full time?

[safe light]

Yes

[inner trench]

Must be out of touch w what’s happening

Yea as expected

[safe light]

I mean i hire interns?

so i would know

[inner trench]

Hard disagree w this too

[safe light]

about this?

i've also read the recuting guidelines and spoken to recuiters...

[inner trench]

Team matching is a diff process

[safe light]

Most companies don't have TM

bro

[inner trench]

Also ur company is much more lenient

Yea I don’t think nobody checked u guys and yall jsut ran free

[safe light]

?

[sudden spruce]

this is very subjective to the company

i don't mean to dogpile but every company has their own criteria

to say that companies don't care about anything other than faang is a bit of a stretch

[safe light]

when we are talking about

top companies

recuriting

literally very few companies are counted as experience

and everything else goes into the same bucket

[inner trench]

No it’s much more sophisticated nowadays

Recruiters have the same mindset as the average cscd user

They know what’s a good, mid, shit prev

[safe light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQVFYVMhPlw

Watch this

[sudden spruce]

although it's rare i do see people from lesser-known companies make it through the pipeline. but there is validity in saying they top companies do have a bit of a "bucket" approach

[sudden spruce]

yea mb i thought you meant all companies

[safe light]

the issue is when you hire from an unknown company that doesn't have a good engineering reputation

and that hire is bad

ur engineering director will call you out on it

there is risk

so people reduce that risk by hiring from very few big tech companies when ur in big tech

it's why all OAI recent hires are meta / etc

from Googles or Meta's perspective, WS, Nokia, and other local canadian companeis are all in the same bucket

[safe light]

no

this is for interns

the bar is really low

if you had a prev internship that looked somewhat interesting

you can probably pass the resume screen

ofc having google or meta will make it much more likely

but the vast majrotiy of canadian companeis / startups are treated the same

Most amazon interns don't have good prev experience for example

same with most FAANGs

you'll see a lot of people with startups, local companies, research interesting projects etc

[inner trench]

I can guarantee this is not the case. Wealthsimple + Shopify have a way better engineering program than Nokia

There are tiers, which is something you’ll have to accept first

[inner trench]

Also, not the case. Who do you think a meta sourcer picks? Someone who did some very interesting low level work at Ciena or someone who did CRUD apps at Wealthsimple?

I think the fact that you’re jumping to that WS and Shop aren’t “all that” means that you’ve accepted the fact that loo students actually have an advantage in getting that internship

[safe light]

i didn't go to a "top cs school", had a cool research project and OSS and got meta interview for intern lol

the bar for intern is lower than u think

isn't like the % of people who get interview / pass to OA for meta like rly high

30-40%

i know it's pretty high for most companies but most people don't even open the OA

[safe light]

ask around ur school u'd probably be suprised by how many people get interviews to cool places but just don't pass

[hardy trench]

Did u put oss in ur resume?

[safe light]

also like, if you wanna work for shop, it seems that literally every school has a good ammount of people at shop per captia

[safe light]

Yes, but people have reached out without it being on resume

[solid fog]

did u get a reply back yet for booking a timeslot?

[inner trench]

I've seen this and I've also seen extremely strong people at my school (who'd pass a given interview) not get interviews at specific places where waterloo students fly by.

[safe light]

vc?

[inner trench]

?

Oh voice call

Nah I gotta have a good weekend bro

[safe light]

no worries

[inner trench]

I'll have to agree to disagree here

[inner trench]

This works and this is probably the best thing someone can do if you're at a non loo school

I agree with that

My point is that loo will always have an advantage in recruiting for these internships

[zinc knot]

When ur school so cooked its not even on the list

Guys am i ngmi

[safe light]

idk man it is what it is

i never felt i was missing something

[zinc knot]

I did

[inner trench]

Ok bro...

[zinc knot]

I went to HTN and instantly became a god

[inner trench]

high true normie?

[zinc knot]

its not there party 😢

[inner trench]

looksmaxing mentioned orz

[zinc knot]

coding jesus raghh 🔥🔥👅👅

[safe light]

recently, don't wanna dox

[zinc knot]

Also who tf put shopify on that list

💀

[safe light]

idk

[zinc knot]

Instantly invalidated

[safe light]

honestly the only person holding me back was me

like i remeber i got drw / squarepoint / twitter first / second year

literally didn't know what LC was

[zinc knot]

no actually, quant outcomes from my school are a hidden gem

[safe light]

but was just doing TA postions

and coding cool stuff

[zinc knot]

my last internship i was one of exactly 2 people from my uni

for a class of 800 interns

[safe light]

final for all those

I had more OAs / interviews

[zinc knot]

And all 3 of my offices were all waterloo

@inner trench tell him

[orchid hedge]

Yeah I did, did you do the one way interview?

[inner trench]

I thought it was only you

I didn't know there was someone else

[zinc knot]

Yeah lowk i thought it was just me too

Apparently one guy in menlo

some guy from engineering

[inner trench]

Orz

[safe light]

i knew how to code and the OAs were more coding like

Squarepoint OA used to be this python class bullshit and i knew a lot about that

[zinc knot]

I still dont know vro

[solid fog]

yeah i did, i got the email for booking a timeslot but haven't heard back yet

[safe light]

idk if you did it

[zinc knot]

For all intents and purposes it was prob still just me

[inner trench]

Weekly loo debate over, we'll resume next week ✌️

[zinc knot]

thanks invite me then

[inner trench]

Yea I'll tag you

[safe light]

yeah it was trivia before and classes

[orchid hedge]

Wait when did you email them for a slot

[zinc knot]

I’ll come complain about how I woulda cracked HRT/Optiver/Radix if i was loo

[inner trench]

Bro it was my turn in the rotation

[zinc knot]

[inner trench]

Next week, it's you

[safe light]

r u canadian citizen?

is that why

MSFT wouldn't hire me cuz my citizenship lol

[solid fog]

i got the email wed night and emailed back on thurs morning

[safe light]

honestly i didnt even know what waterloo was till i was like 3rd year

[zinc knot]

ok thats like insane bro 😭

Aint no damn way

[orchid hedge]

Oh yeah same I got the interview scheduled Thursday evening

[inner trench]

Nah blud i have good processes

It's fine for me

I'm looking out for others

[safe light]

bruh

then why u dooming?

r u trying to make others give up?

[unreal field]

@inner trench tldr this waterfall for me

[solid fog]

best of luck, if i dont hear back on monday im gonna panic a bit lol

[safe light]

to help ur procs

[zinc knot]

He doesnt need help 😭

Trust

trust

[inner trench]

Bruh

[orchid hedge]

Thank you! you will lmao don’t worry it’s maybe just a delay on the recruiter side

[inner trench]

I didn't even start the loo debate here. I just value the truth

You can make it if you're frmo a non-loo school, but it's 10x harder

That's just what I'm trying to say

[zinc knot]

+1

agreed

none of the points made were factually false

[unreal field]

ws rejected me because im not from loo

👍

[zinc knot]

no there might be other reasons for that

you know…

[unreal field]

no

[zinc knot]

ok i wont make the joke here nul

[safe light]

my life would have been harder if i went to loo tbh

probably would have made less friends and had less fun

[zinc knot]

when we’re by ourselves

[safe light]

it's such a depressing campus

i visited it recently

[zinc knot]

ok yeah the city is bum as shit

But when you’re constantly travelling every 4 months

[inner trench]

Social life would’ve been worse sure, but not internship life. Imagine if you got exclusive opportunities putting the same work you put in now lol

[zinc knot]

does it matter

[safe light]

i literally can't think of a single exclusive oppertunity that would have made a difference for me tbh

[unreal field]

yeah jus go to apple park every 4 months bro

[zinc knot]

@safe light you know anyone in oai process rn?

[safe light]

a few

[zinc knot]

I know 10+ loo folk

[safe light]

i'm prepping for OAI

[zinc knot]

how many loo be genuinely honest

vs something like York

[safe light]

none tbh most of the people i know are in the US these days

[unreal field]

york has plenty ill have you know

[zinc knot]

Ok name them all babe

[unreal field]

plenty of oai users

[zinc knot]

rn

[safe light]

i think i have a p ok chance of cracking OAI / antropic if i keep learning

[inner trench]

Insane stray

[safe light]

and i didn't go to loo

[zinc knot]

wait you’re york party? 😭

[inner trench]

I love your mindset and you should keep it

[inner trench]

Nah but we know who

Ye

[zinc knot]

oh

yeah

[unreal field]

@safe light bro idk where you work but im sure your company has a good portion from loo

[zinc knot]

We have a unique relationship

doxx team

[safe light]

😔

[safe light]

idk? maybe? but most peope that i work with are not loo

vast majority of people i work with came from random schools

tbh the best people i know went to no names

at least in my org

[zinc knot]

Yeah because they went to the US

[unreal field]

yeah @inner trench is great and hes from random school

[safe light]

when i worked at zon i saw much more UofT than loo tbh

and ubc

[inner trench]

UOfT fucks their students over with the PEY

[unreal field]

by way of... guess what? companies that favour loo students 😂

[zinc knot]

Its ok

TMU -> Quant pipeline soon

[safe light]

these days for meta the pipeline is Tsinghua University lol

[inner trench]

Not even close 😂😂😂😂

Yea bro wrap it up

Enjoy ur weekend

[safe light]

i see so many ml hires from there its insane

[unreal field]

see you next week everyone for our weekly CSCD standup meeting

[elder yew]

In most cases, are employers open to letting someone complete an internship remotely if they’re not based in the same region? In my case, I’m based in Montreal, and I’m wondering whether it’s even worth as a 1st year student to apply for internships outside my region.

[stark wadi]

any bitgo go accounts past interns?

[unreal field]

yeah, loo kids

[safe light]

u work for meta?

[unreal field]

you are *generally *subject to the same wfh/rto policy as FT employees
that being said you may be given relocation stipends to relocate, but yes its worth applying to internships outside ur region because theyll still look at your application

[inner trench]

Nah I work for SAP

Somehow I’m getting procs

[unreal field]

holy ngmi larp

ok tbf abt this whole loo thing

the ppl i went to hs with that went to loo are on average at worse places than ive been at from non loo

theres a couple ppl doing well but alot are at small comps too

[inner trench]

This will be all loo

[safe light]

this is troll at this point

[inner trench]

Nah not really

[inner trench]

Is this fr

[unreal field]

yeah

like theres some better than me and some worse than me

🔥

[inner trench]

Congrats

[unreal field]

lets apply and see if we pass, with our non-loo education background

[devout nacelle]

bro why does everyone here only talk about loo 😭

[grave quest]

school name carries a weight but it's on the onus of the person to be a hard worker and generally a good candidate

[devout nacelle]

yeah facts

[grave quest]

anyone who whines about loo or a school is compensating for something imo, i aint from loo but i've grinded my as off for internships and new grad stuff, anything is possible if you really work hard and make opportunties for yourself

[devout nacelle]

i agree with this

[unreal field]

compensating for small pp fs

[zinc knot]

are u gonna make 220+ straight out of school

[zinc knot]

Its lowk fun

i like trolling

hope that helps

[safe light]

it's slave mentality the glazing of loo

[inner trench]

WE making 220 CAD

[unreal field]

we are all compensating for small pp @inner trench

[zinc knot]

Microsofties for life!!!

[unreal field]

u got offer too?

[inner trench]

wtf does this mean

[zinc knot]

macrohardies for life?

[inner trench]

Offer to be ngmi, yea

SAP pays 220 CAD these days

[unreal field]

osmows is hiring

[zinc knot]

Sappies for life

[inner trench]

My fucking goat

[unreal field]

220 cad a day?

[grave quest]

no, but im making enough thats all that matters

[inner trench]

Yea

Where my osmows offer at

[zinc knot]

man i wanna troll but what do i even say to this

[inner trench]

Better yet, where my lazeez offer at

[zinc knot]

It’ll make me feel bad

good shit man

[zinc knot]

rising above ta shit ahh grind

[inner trench]

Osmows medium spice made me sick

[unreal field]

i miss it

and i had it 2 days ago

[grave quest]

you can troll, but dude we gotta be content with what we have, all we can do is be better and reach that 220 one day, life aint a sprint but a marathon brother, rome wasn't built in a day, we all will make it

i have hope

[inner trench]

Kinky mf

[zinc knot]

I’m unfortunately a very gluttonous bastard

I’m never happy with what i have 😥

[unreal field]

investment income mog employment income

[grave quest]

we'll live our lives worrying about what others have, i get wanting to earn more but sometimes we have to stop to smell the roses, if you're not happy you'll live a life of what-ifs and regret

https://tenor.com/view/oogway-gif-27339300

[inner trench]

Blud

Loo turned mfs philosophical

You can’t make this up

[grave quest]

yea and im happier than the average loo student

https://tenor.com/view/kathlol-happy-emoji-goofy-emoji-happy-face-happy-face-emoji-gif-2728078433471062380

[zinc knot]

i love u bro i hope u have a genuinely great weekend

[grave quest]

have a good weekend brother, stay clear of the snow 🙂

[zinc knot]

I will be back to troll in 6 hours, for now i am healed and content.

[unreal field]

we should sign up https://uwaterloo.ca/future-students/programs/philosophy

[inner trench]

signing up rn

[unreal field]

Fire, i can get shopify and ws

[devout nacelle]

what pays 220k in canada other than stripe

[safe light]

stripe pays 220k for ng in canada?

interesting

[devout nacelle]

yeah

[unreal field]

For y1 only

[safe light]

whats y2?

[unreal field]

170-180 or smth

[ivory pond]

I fw you bro

[grave quest]

thank you

[inner trench]

Fw a j*b bro

[inner trench]

Damn

[zinc knot]

It’ll go up next year vro

[rough silo]

i need some snow

[wet pewter]

bro its cause they did an event at waterloo

ofc if openai does a talk at waterloo they gonna hire from loo

its so unfair they never came to kanata

[drowsy edge]

Dude what are you talking about do you not go to loo 😭

[balmy quarry]

Loo sucks

I’m here rn

Food is fire tho

How

😭😭

[drowsy edge]

We talked before 💀

[balmy quarry]

Oh

[drowsy edge]

What have you tried

[balmy quarry]

Gols

[drowsy edge]

W

[balmy quarry]

Pho Ahn vu

Donkatsu

Gladiator burgers

Ishawarma

[drowsy edge]

Theres a uyghur place called bogda

[balmy quarry]

Oh yeah I live close to there

I’m gonna try it out sooner than later

I went to the bao place too

[drowsy edge]

Agha if you want Turkish tho i think thats a chain anyway

[balmy quarry]

Oh yeah I heard it’s fire

In the TnT plaza

[drowsy edge]

Yeye

Idk why youd want ice cream in this weather but if you do theres a really good local place uptown

Four All

[balmy quarry]

I’ll keep this in mind

[wet pewter]

Yeah so

U can be in position of power and fight for less fortunate

Loo admission is rng brudda

Slot machine decides ur future

Could’ve just as easily been rejected

[wet pewter]

Yo go to the ramen place near the slap burgers

So fire

I kinda wish I went to a school in California

Lowk would’ve been so peak

Actual school life

[inner trench]

@zinc knot been > 6 hours bro

[zinc knot]

shi my b my b'

whos free rn to have a healthy debate on how everyone is cooked

[unreal field]

Take me out for food

I’m broke and unemployed

[balmy quarry]

If ur in loo deadass hmu

I gotchu

[unreal field]

roadtrip

[fast parrot]

Someone’s gonna dox u bro

[unreal field]

tru

[rare shuttle]

loo > cali

[unreal field]

so real

[latent ore]

Yo has anyone gotten amazon intern interviews for this summer in Canada? Some of my friends got rejections(assuming they were auto rejects) after the OA but the rest of us have just been waiting(30/30 out of coding section)

[regal gorge]

didn't even get an OA

[weak badge]

i got succesfful oa completion email in dec and nothing since

[unreal field]

maybe bc of ur username

[tough knot]

just waiting

[latent ore]

Do yk when they got their OAs? I got mine week of christmas, some of my friends got theirs 1 week, 2 or 3 weeks before etc with diff questions. Im wondering why they split it up like that

[unreal field]

@inner trench

cant even make ts up 😂

jk

[unreal field]

fwiw interviews were like 4+ weeks after oa last year

and ecom was different timing from aws

[inner trench]

We need to shift to a daily schedule

[wild tiger]

shi u got an OA

i havent gotten rejected yet but still havent gotten OA

i have big tech exp too

💀

i just wanted the interview for practice

[vague gale]

anyone done verily interviews?

for new grad swe

[balmy quarry]

same as google process

[vague gale]

i have 4 b2b leetcode rounds on wednesday it seems

purely dsa in the process is crazy

[balmy quarry]

ye + onsite after im pre sure

[vague gale]

i think this is the onsite right?

unless im missing smt

[balmy quarry]

ohh it is?

[vague gale]

yea it might be

pls no lc hard

[balmy quarry]

i got lc meds but i did it for intern

google tagged helped a bunch

[wary dew]

@red merlin did u hear back from Accenture yet?

@viral tree did your friend hear back yet?

[viral tree]

no idea havent asked him

[wary dew]

Wanna ask him?🙏🏿

[viral tree]

did you hear back?

[wary dew]

Nah not yet 💔

[viral tree]

he's not online that much, but imma see him in person tomorrow so i can ask him then

[wary dew]

Kk thanks

[safe light]

they are laying of 16k ppl tmr and 20% of the company in next 12mo

[latent ore]

💀💀💀💀

[unreal field]

nooo

[unreal field]

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/yasinehsan_u-waterloo-meetup-i-am-amazed-by-the-drive-ugcPost-7421312070731816960-y9qx\

why do u think he went to UWaterloo first? @inner trench

[inner trench]

Orz yahscammysin

[inner trench]

Loo up forever

Including next

[wet pewter]

Self hate 💔💔💔

[inner trench]

I manifest being a loo kid, so it’s fine

[unreal field]

waterloo is the cali of the north

[zinc knot]

we're never getting invited huh

[kind solstice]

Anyone had a whatnot technical interview recently? (not karat)

[inner trench]

Loo

[kind solstice]

not from loo lmao

[inner trench]

Spiritually loo

[unreal field]

You will only get offer iff loo

[wet pewter]

Yea just do the tagged qs

Bar is mad high afaik cuz I did optimal for both and rej

I asked the guy afterwards and he’s like yeah u did it right and explained proper but I didn’t like your soln

Idk if I would even consider that a high bar tbh maybe just extremely picky

[kind solstice]

bruh what

that's wild

[wet pewter]

I know like 10 ppl who went through proc and got rej at some point

[kind solstice]

ok im cooked

[wet pewter]

With lc easy questions

[kind solstice]

you know anyone who made it past the technical interview to the principles/behvioural part?

[wet pewter]

Yeah

[kind solstice]

how many

how'd that go

[wet pewter]

A few ik got to hm but rej there

Again extremely picky

[kind solstice]

damn ok

so questions were from leetcode tagges ones?

all easy?

[wet pewter]

Starts with 1 lc easy

Then easy med

I had a follow up that was another easy maybe medium tier

[kind solstice]

okok

thanks bro

[balmy quarry]

i love loo

[kind solstice]

hate loo

sheridan college on top

[inner trench]

I love loo

[wet pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/waterloo-abba-waterloo-song-crushing-defeat-great-loss-gif-26036979

[chrome nebula]

Hi everyone, I’m wondering if it’s true that it’s really hard for newcomers to find cybersecurity jobs in Canada at the moment.

[unreal field]

its not hard if you went to the University of Waterloo, based in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada

[fast parrot]

This chat try not to bring up Waterloo

https://tenor.com/view/mario-judah-meme-fnaf-meme-man-fnaf-meme-fnaf-title-screen-gif-23823003

[lyric sphinx]

yo i lowkirk forgot about that scotiabank group coffee chat

did anyone here attend? what did they talk about

[tepid ocean]

They really care about your behavioural answers, not just solving technical optimally

[inner trench]

We discussed plans to make it loo exclusive

[safe light]

sigh the loo convo never ends

[unreal field]

did you sign the loo nda?

[inner trench]

Yup

[lost bison]

anyone heard back from rbc borealis?

[balmy quarry]

lets talk about wlu

[wary dew]

was it for swe?

[regal gorge]

got cooked in the IBM OA

q1 was simple but for q2 i tried doing two pointers

asked claude after the OA, apparently i shouldve done dp

[unreal field]

where do those guys end up

😂

[zinc knot]

i hope this puts the discussion to rest

@inner trench @unreal field mic drop boys

courtesy of @real island too

[unreal field]

@safe light thoughts?

[mystic junco]

i got general motors 😭

does anyone know if they let u use any language in the onsite? the codility OA made u use java/kotlin/cpp only

[unreal field]

i was able to use python

but i dont rem having an OA

this was for intern

[viral tree]

uoft had shopify and td interviews during uoft hacks 😤

[unreal field]

No prior experience needed eh

@inner trench reach

[lyric sphinx]

yes

[lyric sphinx]

why id ts rejecting my .ca email bruh

[zinc knot]

bros asking me like im the organizer

[lyric sphinx]

aren't you a loo bob?

[zinc knot]

yes im loo warrior foreva

[safe light]

this chat has become mega glaze cringe

[unreal field]

have u tried a @uwaterloo email

[safe light]

imagine if UofT students posted 12 times a day that hack the north was sponsored by Jane Street and HRT

insane inferiority complex, legit should be studied

[unreal field]

I’m gmi @inner trench

[balmy quarry]

Damn that’s cool

I’m gonna apply 😁

[unreal field]

Do you want to join my team?

[balmy quarry]

sure, i have no prior experience tho

with trading

[inner trench]

I got tagged 5 times

Yea I ain’t reading allat

[unreal field]

It’s short

[wet pewter]

not even kidding if u are loo 3rd year + u can get hrt proc so easily

i know a significant amount of people who got the int

js is less but they still sponsor poker club i think

[inner trench]

Jokes write themselves

[buoyant bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-evil-scary-mean-gif-18267879

[unreal field]

😂

[stark wadi]

did anyone get shopify life story?

[brisk surge]

Bruh

[unreal field]

Loo @inner trench

Can’t make it up eh

[balmy quarry]

Check ur DMs

[elfin junco]

imma still apply 💀

[unreal field]

It says in the job description

[inner trench]

Loo

[wet pewter]

Waterloo is not near downtown Toronto 💀

[balmy quarry]

I love Wilfred Laurier 🙂

[unreal field]

It is near

2 hours is near

[analog current]

anyone get intuit process?

[balmy quarry]

Nah

[fair vigil]

@high path I have Zillow interview 💀

[high path]

Yoo that’s crazy

What was the proc like?

I got resume screened lmao

[fair vigil]

1 initial 1 hour screen

then 3x 1 hour rounds

then idk

[high path]

Dam I would’ve gotten cooked

[fair vigil]

@high path

did u?

[high path]

I did

[lost bison]

when did they even post the app?

[analog current]

last week i think

[wet pewter]

loo]

[inner trench]

otu best school

[viral tree]

Which company has better resume value, TD securities or Ericsson?

[still igloo]

dm

[elfin junco]

ill say anything with securities

[unreal field]

^

[inner trench]

Loo securities

[unreal field]

waterloo works security guard

[lost bison]

Waterlooworks?

[inner trench]

yes

[mystic junco]

i think i did

some shady uptime crew thing right?

[hardy trench]

what skl

cuz i swear they have not dropped on their site

[mystic junco]

also, i applied only to intuit USA so idk why i heard back cuz i dont think intuit usa sponsors canadians

whats skl

[hardy trench]

school

[mystic junco]

shitty no name canada

[hardy trench]

theres no such thing as a shitty school

cmon man

[mystic junco]

no swe 1 usa dropped a while back and swe 1 toronto dropped recently

[hardy trench]

oh ft

nvm i was thinking interns

[mystic junco]

is urs the uptime crew email?

[balmy quarry]

js say ur school

[hardy trench]

no idea what that is

i'm procless

homeless

all the less's

[mystic junco]

same

[balmy quarry]

i promise u ur school is not bad

[unreal field]

is the school university of waterloo?

[hardy trench]

yea no such thing as a bad school

its abt what u make out of it

[mystic junco]

i think my testosterone level is decreasing due to higher cortisol levels

[balmy quarry]

school name dnt even matter gng

[unreal field]

@inner trench are you ready for this one?

jokes write themselves

[balmy quarry]

LMAOO

canada channel try not to talk about school rankings challenge

[inner trench]

Weekly

[balmy quarry]

im guilty too

[hardy trench]

hourly

[unreal field]

bi-daily

[hardy trench]

bi-hourly

[mystic junco]

rankings are real why pretend like it dont exist

[hardy trench]

yea he's right technically

[balmy quarry]

easy cop out for being inadequate

[hardy trench]

but that doesnt mean every other school is shitty

and that doesn't mean u cant do anything

[mystic junco]

the world is divided into iq classes and ive accepted im in the avg to below avg category

[inner trench]

Never tag me in this server again man 😂😂😂😂💀

[balmy quarry]

people like @inner trench went to waterloo but he's a chud

[hardy trench]

@inner trench

[balmy quarry]

so does it even matter?

[hardy trench]

@inner trench procless

from uw

[inner trench]

True

[balmy quarry]

get yo ass on brh

[inner trench]

Would h rather be a chud or @hardy trench

[hardy trench]

hmmm

[balmy quarry]

polaar ofc

[hardy trench]

good question

[balmy quarry]

look at his pfp, so cute ❤️

[inner trench]

Man who TF is polar 😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭

[hardy trench]

yo i deadass thought ur pfp was diddy kong

[balmy quarry]

he's the man of the people

[inner trench]

It is

[hardy trench]

i got people

[inner trench]

Now I’m banned from loo

Great

[hardy trench]

to brock u go

[balmy quarry]

dont step foot in oshawa

we will lace ur osmows

[hardy trench]

ong me and jon

[inner trench]

Bro

[hardy trench]

and ur lazeez

[inner trench]

I got banned from loo and Oshawa in a window of 2 min

[hardy trench]

ik u people love your lazeez

at the loo

all i see is waterloo students glazing lazeez

[inner trench]

alr bro we can drop the act we ALL go to OTU

[hardy trench]

yea

otu on top tho

upgrades

[unreal field]

otu mogs loo

[inner trench]

Thanks

[balmy quarry]

ts guy knows me

❤️

W OTU

[inner trench]

Otu is the best school

[hardy trench]

W OTU

[inner trench]

W OTU

[balmy quarry]

ON NULNAME SOUL OTU IS THE BEST

[inner trench]

ON VERILY’S SOUL OTU THE BEST

[unreal field]

holy cope

[hardy trench]

nulname are you an ottawian

[unreal field]

no

[inner trench]

We ALL are

[balmy quarry]

yo nulname who is partythisdoor

am i connected with him?

[unreal field]

my mentor

what door is the party in? @inner trench

[hardy trench]

yo what happened to duck

he just dipped

[unreal field]

holay

[inner trench]

He found a girl

[deft basin]

Verily's soul doesnt have much left icl

[hardy trench]

damn so he leaving all of us

[unreal field]

he found a wlu huzz

[deft basin]

banned from kanata north too ngl

[balmy quarry]

YOOOO MY GOAT

[inner trench]

alr I’m banned from kanat north, loo, and Oshawa

[unreal field]

you're also banned from toronto / yorku

[hardy trench]

yk what ur banned from canada

[balmy quarry]

mewmoewow is him btw

[hardy trench]

yc

[unreal field]

is he the meta otu guy

[balmy quarry]

nah he's not in here

[hardy trench]

yo if ur the meta otu guy

ur linkedin post inspired me

[inner trench]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[unreal field]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[hardy trench]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[inner trench]

Holy loo shenanigans

[unreal field]

not in cscd or not on discord

[inner trench]

Man we ALL go to loo here

[balmy quarry]

he's on discord but not in cscd

[hardy trench]

yea partythisdoor pack it up

[unreal field]

boo

[balmy quarry]

he's 2 busy for this chud shit

[unreal field]

who are you @hardy trench

drop linkedin

[hardy trench]

damn like that?

[balmy quarry]

tell party to drop his li bruh

[unreal field]

ye

[balmy quarry]

i know he knows me

[hardy trench]

nulname

what if i told u

[unreal field]

me and party go way back

[hardy trench]

i'm already connected with u

[unreal field]

the way you made me go to our dm's to see if we talked before

[inner trench]

ON SHOPIFY’S SOUL, WE ALL WILL TOUCH @hardy trench

[unreal field]

what school u from

i need a filter on my linkedin connections

[hardy trench]

mcmaster

[unreal field]

4 pages worth of ppl

i aint finding u

[hardy trench]

😂

good luck

[inner trench]

Diddyblud

[balmy quarry]

diddy chud 🤷‍♂️

[inner trench]

Word

I like that

[unreal field]

we have the same roots eh @hardy trench

[inner trench]

Who the bigger chud me or polar

[balmy quarry]

nulname is

[unreal field]

whos the most chopped

[balmy quarry]

nulname and i are chuds

[balmy quarry]

us

[hardy trench]

yee

woah

wtf

[unreal field]

😂

[balmy quarry]

im crying bruh

[hardy trench]

ur too tuff bro

[inner trench]

how tf

Nulname crazy doxxer

[hardy trench]

yall too tuff

[unreal field]

😂

@hardy trench check dms

Polar is a troll

Need to send him to the gulag of brock

[hardy trench]

noooooo

[unreal field]

Centennial college

[hardy trench]

W doxx

[inner trench]

Fr

[unreal field]

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mdtehrani_i-get-this-type-of-questions-a-few-times-share-7421726003120504832-kDj5

loo

cant even make it up @inner trench

[grave quest]

where is my goat @weak gazelle

[safe light]

ontariotech with meta and oai proc while #canada chat complaining about a hacktaton sponsorship

the biggest lies loo ever told the world was convincing them they couldn't achieve great things without loo

[brisk surge]

Yo do yall know when 1pass opens their apps?

[brisk surge]

Fax

[unreal field]

@inner trench

@balmy quarry

cscd canada anti waterloo committee

[inner trench]

OpenAI stackranks during the entire process. I’m sure he had great performance, but I know Waterloo ppl who got offers with the exact same prevs as him

OpenAI is the one company you shouldn’t use an example, because they’re insanely school focused

[safe light]

once you get the interview it's all based on your performance

He got to the final

[inner trench]

Nope

[safe light]

it seems by his own admission he choked

[inner trench]

Trust me, I know this lol

[safe light]

You work for OAI or got an interview?

[inner trench]

Trust me, I know this

[safe light]

I know this too

I've been on both sides of the hiring process

[inner trench]

Not at OpenAI

[safe light]

and know people from shit schools who got the offer at OAI

[inner trench]

Not through the applied emerging talent pipeline

I can guarantee that

There’s a quota

[balmy quarry]

Anti Waterloo assembleeeee

[unreal field]

trust me @inner trench , OpenAI does not care about school when they hire
also OpenAI:

[inner trench]

That’s every company though. That doesn’t mean anything

These populations are smarter so they naturally end up there

What you have to note is whether the pipelines are built for those schools or for strong talent

[unreal field]

waterloo #1

[unreal field]

~3 months before start date

[inner trench]

Also: https://x.com/fangyi11101/status/1992799420023456060

forward deployed ccp gf (@FangYi11101)

“I work with Ivy grads so school doesn’t matter” is cope. You’re comparing your ceiling to their floor. If they ended up next to you, they lost their own tournament.

X · Nov 24, 2025, 3:36 AM

[turbid island]

@inner trench what if i go to tmu can i get openai

[inner trench]

Yea, I heard tmu’s target

[balmy quarry]

Ik a TMU guy in cit final round

TMU is a mega target

[balmy quarry]

That’s my boy Taha

He’s a mega outlier at our school

He’s probably like top 1 very few at our school get top tier procs

[inner trench]

Cit goated for not caring about school

I can vouch that cit doesn’t care

[balmy quarry]

Idt js cares either

[inner trench]

JS does

During final 100%

[balmy quarry]

O

[inner trench]

You ain’t making it past lunch

[balmy quarry]

Rip

[inner trench]

Also for RO they do

[balmy quarry]

Gtech online method

[unreal field]

my goat

[balmy quarry]

Nulname

WE will get cit

And spam design questions on LC

Jk I’m ngmi

[unreal field]

yea same

thats why i havent done my interviews

not cit, other places

[inner trench]

Jon can act get cit

Like I wouldn’t be surprised

[safe light]

i don't this JS cares tbh, i know people who got the interview / offer from not so great schools for new grad and intern

[lyric sphinx]

the most important question is. what do you have to do to get the proc at js/cit if you're not at the target schools

[balmy quarry]

Get good internships

[safe light]

same thing the target schools have to do,

Either competitive programing exp
Good internships
Good research
Good project

you need something to standout

[balmy quarry]

Lowkey projects don’t even matter

[lyric sphinx]

ts is cooked bruh

low chance you're getting any of these if you're not at a good school

but ig cp is doable

[safe light]

what

bro anyone can get into amazon honestly

and if you can get into amazon it can open a lot of doors for you in the quant space

[balmy quarry]

I have big tech jobs and I promise you I go to a worse school than you

[safe light]

but like even if you can't get into amazon i remeber i got B tier quant firms like tower, drw, squarepoint etc internship finals in my second year of uni

[inner trench]

@unreal field

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[balmy quarry]

Tower b tier is crazy

[inner trench]

TS KILLING ME

[balmy quarry]

😭

DRW Montreal is dook apparently

[safe light]

? ik you're trolling party, but working at Zon opens doors, a lot of people from zon have gotten interviews at OpenAI antropic etc and joined after working zon for 2 years

and places like cit/HRT etc

espeically if ur on a team like S3 or aurora

which is very CPP heavy or annapura which is ML compliers

[balmy quarry]

Nulname 😭😭😭😭😭

Does loo hater know ?

[safe light]

u work for aurora?

good luck it's rough

but ur resume will be good

it's one of the biggest CPP teams in Canada i think

Aurora has over 200 Open SEV2s rn

like

[balmy quarry]

3 yrs no zon OA

Gg

[safe light]

Aurora is known in AWS for having shit WLB, maybe you got a good team?

well it's like

not the worst

like it's not T1 AWS bad

but it's painful

[inner trench]

@unreal field check if ur old team there

Zon just announced 16k layoffs

[balmy quarry]

🥀

[safe light]

they can't layoff aurora

they are already so understaffed

if they layoff some more the service will break

[balmy quarry]

🔥

[glad echo]

Lightwork

[lyric sphinx]

how did u get it tho?

I have a decent res I would think, but getting no procs

also on the topic of ngmi unis, I promise you haven’t heard of mine b4

[safe light]

which school u have

WGU?

look this is where i will caviate

i think if you go to a diploma mill

then ur actually gonna have a rough time

like those 2 year diploma colleges

senca

etc

[lyric sphinx]

oh nah it’s a bit better than that lol

but it’s one of those schools that farm international students

[safe light]

which one

[safe light]

is school in [ Conestoga, Sheridan college, Algonquin college, St Lawrence college] ?

[brisk surge]

yeah thats crazy

did you hear back from WS>

?

have people heard back >

ggs

[safe light]

idk i won't comment

but there are messages in the chat if you scroll up

it's a sad situation imo

[lyric sphinx]

nope. its tru

[balmy quarry]

I won hackathons, I went to networking events I cold emailed EMs

I’m also the first in my family to work in tech as well so no nepo

[balmy quarry]

Just say where u go bron

[safe light]

temu? like the university in toronto?

[balmy quarry]

Is it lakehead or some shit

[safe light]

toronto metropolitan or something

[balmy quarry]

I’m at Ontario tech bro trust me ur probably in a better situation

[safe light]

that meta guy is a legend in ur uni right

?

how did he do it

[balmy quarry]

He’s up there

[safe light]

who's the most goated

at ur uni

[balmy quarry]

We have a guy at deepmind

[safe light]

damn

[balmy quarry]

No ego shit I’m up there as well

I’m nothing crazy tho

[safe light]

where u at?

[balmy quarry]

Dm

[safe light]

cool

[balmy quarry]

Idk why he’s bummed about failing oai tho he has way better procs

[lyric sphinx]

Thompson Rivers University

[lyric sphinx]

tuff

[balmy quarry]

This is in BC right?

[lyric sphinx]

yea

[balmy quarry]

Yea I’ve heard of it

[lyric sphinx]

How lol

ngmi city

[balmy quarry]

Il a lot of people from BC

[lyric sphinx]

cool cool

[safe light]

its online right

[lyric sphinx]

no. in person

[safe light]

nice

[balmy quarry]

Dex

Go to UBC networking events and hackathons

If you find cracked teammates you’ll get a lot out of it

Oh it’s quite far tbh

[lyric sphinx]

bro ubc is the one uni I don’t see having any hackathons

[balmy quarry]

Nwhacks

Ubs SUS hackathon

[lyric sphinx]

ig I could find a networking event

[balmy quarry]

SFU hackathons

[celest granite]

Looks like only 61 people from ur school went to faanng+shop

[unreal field]

unironically otu on the come up

[lyric sphinx]

would I recommend online hackathons?

[safe light]

tbh remove shop

[lyric sphinx]

nwhacks lowk rejected my app, but like almost every us hackathon I applied to accepted me

but it’s too expensive to fly to the states

[safe light]

treehacks?

[lyric sphinx]

calhacks

[safe light]

nice

[lyric sphinx]

I would like to go to hacklytics but that shit is $800

[celest granite]

Just do dev post hacks. I think they have google gemini submission due on feb 3rd

[lyric sphinx]

yea I have a project for that one

[safe light]

u also go to tru ?

[balmy quarry]

Check Ontario tech I’m curious

I have a feeling it’s around the same

[safe light]

tbh google explicity doesn't care about school