canada

[junior hazel]

do they have premier protein back yet

[brisk gate]

@golden fulcrum https://jobs.apple.com/en-ca/details/200623119-2494/core-bringup-engineer?team=SFTWR

[golden fulcrum]

I interviewed for this team a year ago

its cooked

[brisk gate]

rip

[golden fulcrum]

I don't have JTAG experience n stuff

which they really wanted

[brisk gate]

oh

[gusty latch]

wait r u graduated

[golden fulcrum]

yeah

[gusty latch]

loo?

[golden fulcrum]

no

[brisk gate]

is this the one you interviewed with before?
https://jobs.apple.com/en-ca/details/200622351-2494/tools-and-automation-engineer

new posting tho

[gusty latch]

oh shit

wait r u unemployed

[golden fulcrum]

errrr

[brisk gate]

@golden fulcrum bro ask your cousin for some help

the hiring manager contacted him the day after my hm interview and i got verbal the day after that

[stark cipher]

yea

[golden fulcrum]

apple mail app sucks

holy shit

[golden fulcrum]

not exactly

[gusty latch]

W

[golden fulcrum]

working on my own app + contract work for another app

i cant sit still 💀

[gusty latch]

as long as the moneys coming in

[golden fulcrum]

oh and my first app did well to the point where I got a C&D 😎

[gusty latch]

whats that

[golden fulcrum]

OctaneBuddy

[gusty latch]

cease and desist?

[golden fulcrum]

yes

[gusty latch]

damn

[golden fulcrum]

I need to frame it

[brisk gate]

damn bro

[gusty latch]

oh shit ur him

[golden fulcrum]

lmao

[gusty latch]

wait acc a really cool concept

who hated u

gasbuddy?

[golden fulcrum]

yes

[gusty latch]

dam bruh

[golden fulcrum]

its ok

[brisk gate]

wait

this is good shit bro

[golden fulcrum]

bigger and badder app

coming soon

hehe

[gusty latch]

super helpful

do u have a porsche

[golden fulcrum]

not yet

[gusty latch]

🙏

[brisk gate]

yet

based

@golden fulcrum i think getting stuck at 2nd round might not necessarily be the interviewers fault

[golden fulcrum]

ik its me lmao

idk how to prep

[brisk gate]

my recruiter said (iirc) that based of 15 people, only 1 person gets offer

and he said that each round they pick off the best

[golden fulcrum]

yeah

Software Developer, Xcode and Tools role

this is what I did last for ottawa

I'll apply to the new one

[brisk gate]

like good people might get cut out is what it seems like hes implying

[golden fulcrum]

oh yeah during that interview I mentioned a bug in xcode 💀

she was like "oh thats weird"

[brisk gate]

aint no way

[golden fulcrum]

LMAO

I was able to corrupt the xcodeproj file I think

so every time u change supported orientations for the app in xcode, xcode crashes

LOL

every single time

[brisk gate]

for getting topics and interview questions, i just ask perplexity.ai and it worked out for me

spam glassdoor probably, it didnt help all that much but it depends on the role type/job

for behavioural and interview practice, get someone to help you with that ideally or unironically use chatgpt with voice input

like an hour or so before interview id practice with chatgpt talking just to get into the mindset

if youre familiar with the star format that amazon uses, do that for every behavioural question

[golden fulcrum]

u used him for referral?

[brisk gate]

no just a reference

[golden fulcrum]

ah

how many rounds did u have?

[brisk gate]

7 total

[golden fulcrum]

also what team and role

[brisk gate]

1 screening, 4 panels, 1 director, 1 hiring manager

[golden fulcrum]

jeez

I should prob do some lc

[brisk gate]

some wireless org team, working on 5g routers

official title is: Cellular Layer1 Control Software Dev Engineer

[golden fulcrum]

dayyum

sick

[brisk gate]

yea even for my interviews i had leetcode style questions

a lot of linkedlist for me

and i got median within a stream question

[golden fulcrum]

live coding is what kills me

[brisk gate]

where you use 2 heaps (didnt have to implement it thankfully cause that would be aids in C)

[golden fulcrum]

mmm

oh u did it in C?

[brisk gate]

yea

[golden fulcrum]

do u do all interviews in C?

[brisk gate]

yes sir

[golden fulcrum]

they always ask and I pick python

hmmm

[brisk gate]

i had to either use C or C++ in my case

[golden fulcrum]

ah

first few interviews I did a long time ago, I did in C

but yeah I gotta do some lc

[brisk gate]

naw but apple is picky af

i feel lucky that i passed cause one of my panel interviews went mediocre

everything else went good tho

esp director interview

[golden fulcrum]

my friend did 11 interviews for the same team

only to get ghosted

bro just accepted a 55k role in toronto while doing his masters now 😭

soooo cooked

[brisk gate]

recruiter isnt ghosting me anymore but someone in hr is ghosting my last approval

[golden fulcrum]

dam

so ur moving to cupertino?

[brisk gate]

san diego

[golden fulcrum]

o

[brisk gate]

banished to socal

[golden fulcrum]

I haven't been there but cupertino is super nice

[brisk gate]

so ive heard

many people talk shit about bay tho

[golden fulcrum]

haters

[brisk gate]

lol

[golden fulcrum]

we did san fran -> LA -> LV

all of which was hella nice

anyone saying otherwise should be sent to Ottawa

[gusty latch]

wait

@golden fulcrum

[golden fulcrum]

yo

[gusty latch]

lemmie put u on game

run a deep research

[brisk gate]

aint no way

💀

[gusty latch]

for the interview questions

thts what i always do

and it helps a lot

[golden fulcrum]

deep research with chatgpt?

[gusty latch]

yea

[golden fulcrum]

kk

good idea

[gusty latch]

or any llm with a deep research feature

[golden fulcrum]

I'll let it rip on claude

[gusty latch]

it goes through like all the reddit threads

random forums

its insanely good

[golden fulcrum]

yeah good idea

im so pissed off with local companies

[brisk gate]

real

ciena

have you gotten a reachout from them?

[golden fulcrum]

ciena new grad hiring is in jan apparently

ciena rejects me every single time lol

[gusty latch]

how do u guys get reach outs

[brisk gate]

how tho

[gusty latch]

is it just linkedin maxxing

[golden fulcrum]

I rejected ciena once as a coop

[brisk gate]

youre literally target school

[golden fulcrum]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brisk gate]

bro ciena is so rigged

[golden fulcrum]

idk man

ik the sr director of soft eng at ciena

[brisk gate]

its nepo, the company

[golden fulcrum]

he said to reach out in jan

lol

ciena seems nice

[brisk gate]

yea office is good allegedly

[golden fulcrum]

lowkey something local would be nice cause I wanna continue working on this startup stuff

and I can stay at home and pocket the 100k

[brisk gate]

pretty sure work culture aint bad, but i never worked there

[gusty latch]

how much have u made off ur apps

[golden fulcrum]

my friends are at ciena rn

they like it

seems chill

and good products

[golden fulcrum]

well rn I dont have my own app out there. Working on a AI powered workout generation app atm

but I'm contracting for Sidecar

which has 80k users now?

http://sidecar.clutch.engineering

[brisk gate]

they say that but why do they post out ng just at anytime of the year

😭

[golden fulcrum]

ikr

[gusty latch]

oh shit

[golden fulcrum]

I might spam recruiters today

[gusty latch]

i cant remember if i've seen this app as a sponsor

on a yt vid i've watched

idk if it's this one or another one

[golden fulcrum]

nah we dont sponsor

its not that big lol

yet

[gusty latch]

seems helpful

[brisk gate]

oh so is it a wireless obd2 scanner? like on the physical side

[golden fulcrum]

its primarily a nav app

but if u have a BT OBD2 scanner, way more integration to your car

[gusty latch]

why would i use sidecar over waze

[brisk gate]

ohh i see

[golden fulcrum]

so now we can generate super customized routes for your car based on your cars fuel economy on inclines, declines, etc etc

[gusty latch]

ohhh

wait that is kinda cool

[golden fulcrum]

everything is logged so we could even do stuff like

[brisk gate]

wtf

zamn

[golden fulcrum]

"hey your back left tire is leaking"

we just added reporting recently so we have waze like stuff in that aspect too

[gusty latch]

but for all that it requires the user to have a bt obd2

[golden fulcrum]

scanner is like 20 bucks on amazon lol

[gusty latch]

i see

[golden fulcrum]

the nav app is still the main part of the app and it works very well

(and thats free)

[gusty latch]

do u use it

[golden fulcrum]

ofc lol

[gusty latch]

damn thats cool

[golden fulcrum]

range overlay

every single possible path is calculated to see how far u could go

[gusty latch]

ohhh

just a question out of curiousity

[golden fulcrum]

we have a lot google maps, waze etc simply cannot do because of obd2 integration

[gusty latch]

how do u calc the paths

at a high level

[golden fulcrum]

valhalla

https://github.com/valhalla/valhalla

[gusty latch]

ohh icic

[golden fulcrum]

new reporting feature will feed back to OSM too

I myself am working on an app called Scout

https://testflight.apple.com/join/DJrwDRkW

rather than just logging fuel prices, u can log basically anything. for v1 is focused around gas stations. I have support for everything from 85-115 octane, all ethanol content values, all biodiesel content types etc etc

image capture -> fuel type logging + fuel price logging

[brisk gate]

what are you driving now

[golden fulcrum]

acura tlx

if u see a white one around, it's prob me

[brisk gate]

LMAO

[golden fulcrum]

lol

but yeahhh scout is almost ready to launch

hype

[gusty latch]

is it possible to transfer to another uni program

im in my 2nd year

[golden fulcrum]

yeah

[gusty latch]

just want to apply to uw transfer for the lols

[golden fulcrum]

bruh

ik someone who did loo -> carton

lol

[gusty latch]

bruhh

[golden fulcrum]

he got AWS and dipped

[gusty latch]

oh shit

thats smart

did he live in ottawa

[brisk gate]

other than cost savings why switch to carleton? (im assuming they livedi n ottawa or something)

[golden fulcrum]

yeah

[golden fulcrum]

he just wanted degree so didn't care + native to here I guess

where else would u go lol

transferring out of loo that is

[brisk gate]

yea it would make sense if they were native to ottawa

fair enough

[manic dew]

are there any decent job boards outside of linkedin? seems like a slow day for new positions

[manic dew]

ok i just started applying this month 🫠

ya i heard something similar, people were also talking about how q4 and how new grad jobs pick back up in the new year

dunno feel very lost atm but maybe thats just because im used to school 💀

Finished classes but havent officially graduated yet

convocation in a month

yeah...

then I see articles about how the tech/cs job market has imploded

a tiny bit demoralizing lol

[gusty latch]

what school

acc school sohuldnt even matter

[manic dew]

also uoft

[gusty latch]

did u do pey

[manic dew]

i did 2 coops

but they werent strictly software engineering

[gusty latch]

utm?

[manic dew]

im utsc

[gusty latch]

ah ic

market sucks man

[manic dew]

yerp

[gusty latch]

2022 was prime'

[manic dew]

my bad for not being born 2 years earlier

[gusty latch]

thats what i been saying

except im still a soph

thats the strat

that was a crazy era

[manic dew]

yeah i didnt realize how much i should have focused on getting good internships because i was struggling to survive at uoft

[gusty latch]

non existant or they kept their jobs\

[gusty latch]

yea

[manic dew]

i think the strat now is just to stay in school until you get good internships

[gusty latch]

thats what kinda sucks abt uoft

the only downside tbh

i mean

if u manage to land an intern

[manic dew]

ya i did that too

[gusty latch]

ship

u can grind for the ro

so that way u dont have to worry about the new gra dmarket

[manic dew]

I reached out to my previous employers and they didnt have anything

same thing happened to my friend

is what it is

[gusty latch]

new grad interviews suck too

so many more rounds

but im assuming u guys probably been grinding out lc

[manic dew]

not as much as i should lol

[gusty latch]

yea it sucks

[manic dew]

same lol

I think theres a career fair on thurs, are you going?

ya ill go to that one too

lemme get a link for the other one i found

https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/job-fair-toronto-october-2nd-2025-free-admission-tickets-1420077182079?aff=ebdssbdestsearch&keep_tld=1

I think theres also other job fairs on the 2nd

https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/toronto-career-fair-and-training-expo-canada-october-2-2025-tickets-995459103977

not sure what the difference is tbh

go to the first one and if theres no tech companies try the 2nd?

kk reach out if youre going cuz ill be going just to feel productive

[magic nymph]

lol why most of company's team is located in india, and like only 4 people in canada

[violet swift]

is wealthsimple > shopify?

[reef stone]

Yes

[lyric sphinx]

Does this mean I won’t get rejected?

[potent flint]

got the same email

naa i think its just what it says

probably automated

[eager imp]

this cover makes me think its a scam bruh

tf

[manic dew]

I mean its free but yeah i agree lol

[wispy oyster]

ghosted by microsoft vancouver despite referral and prev @meta 🫥🫥

[crystal comet]

over asf lmao

why do canadians even bother

(non-loo)

[stark cipher]

u mighta not passed the race filter bro

[unreal field]

what race do u need to be

[stark cipher]

indian

[swift kernel]

Actually outrageous

[fickle juniper]

dw they pick ppl out of a hat

[brisk gate]

are you canadian citizen?

microsoft van is for the those cannot go to the states

frfr

[wispy oyster]

ind

[stark cipher]

nvm bro didnt even get race screened

[brisk gate]

microsoft van team specific i think

i dont know how tru that is tho

pretty sure they screen pretty hard

[wet pewter]

Get used to being ghosted 💀

Meta doesn’t hold the weight it used to

[crystal comet]

dawg if meta doesn't have pull then nowhere has pull 💀

[stark cipher]

were ngmi bro

meta = resume nerf

@wispy oyster @wet pewter u gotta take it off yo shit

[inner trench]

fr

[wet pewter]

Waterlooworks kinda lit this term tho

Got 5 ints first cycle

[stark cipher]

fuck you

[swift kernel]

yea i love waterlooworks

idk what i would do without it

probably would be unemployed

[unreal field]

least exoected loo outcome

shopify swe, shopify data eng, shopify mle, shopify %

[queen anvil]

Whats the verdict on Shopify vs Wealthsimple for intern

I heard Wealthsimple is better for Canadian companies and Shopify for US

[stark cipher]

WS internship is buns

you do literally nothing

[queen anvil]

But resume value tho

Which has more

[stark cipher]

neither

[queen anvil]

Solely by the name

[stark cipher]

shop resume value in the dumps

after hiring interns who dont know how to use gh

ws too niche

and decided to build a banking app on ruby for some reason

winter 2025 shop had 3 people go to meta though

the summer cohort is kinda ngmi

to the point they had to say theyre raising the hiring bar

[queen anvil]

Resume value comes from the perspective of recruiters; not students. We may know that Shopify had students who didn't know how to use github, which may devalue it in our eyes, but after the internship the students would know

[swift kernel]

so its gonna be 100% loo instead of 95% loo 😭 😭

[queen anvil]

If other companies don't know the state of incoming hires, only the state of those who move on, then the rest matters little

[unreal field]

only resume value is starbucks cuz thats all recruiters drink

[queen anvil]

Lowkey I think it's going to be less loo if hiring bar is raised, since they needn't take a less experienced subset of UW mans to fill their quota, and instead experienced people from other unis without a quota to make up the difference

I.e., if Shopify hires 150 interns and has a 100 UW man quota, then it is possible that the bottom 10 UW mans are not as proficient as the remaining 50 non UW students

[wet pewter]

meta rej -> wealthsimple pipeline

im gonna start the pipeline

[queen anvil]

With a raised hiring bar, the bottom 10 UW mans must be replaced by more experienced non-UW mans

[bronze rain]

W take this helps me cope

[wet pewter]

its mostly ai b2b saas startups tho

[wet pewter]

when does wealthsimple come out

[bronze rain]

Yesterday

[wet pewter]

hopefully I get screened in

[queen anvil]

Came out yesterday big dog

[wet pewter]

nah i mean interviews

[queen anvil]

They said within 2 weeks

[wet pewter]

do they force u to go through coop?

[bronze rain]

About to get rejected for 4th time

[queen anvil]

Idts, new grads within 6 months are allowed too

[wet pewter]

then double job method will be crazy

[queen anvil]

Imma make a cheeky poll

[swift kernel]

shop has better post intern outcomes

[queen anvil]

I have noticed that I've never seen a Shopify man fall off

I've seen a Microsoft man fall off and go to Nokia

[wet pewter]

if I fall off this next term im just not gonna put on resume

[queen anvil]

What uni?

[wet pewter]

like only thing after meta is quant or adjacent

waterloo

[queen anvil]

Robinhood

[wet pewter]

adjacent

[queen anvil]

Valid

[wet pewter]

applied with referral and ghosted btw

for robinhood

[queen anvil]

For intern?

[wet pewter]

yep

[unreal field]

why yall voting on hypotheticals

[queen anvil]

Its only been a week, last year they reached out to me after 2 weeks

[wet pewter]

nah i applied mad long ago i swear

[swift kernel]

yea i think recruiters have some guidance on msft

cuz its a big company so many orgs are ngmi

[wet pewter]

its been 8 days

[queen anvil]

Nah lol dw it released last monday, ik cause I was on them like a hawk lmao

[wet pewter]

so there robinhood ng?

is*

[queen anvil]

Idk about new grad

[queen anvil]

Wdym by guidance?

[unreal field]

mfs asking google swe ng vs rbc qa intern

[queen anvil]

RBC Borealis could go toe-to-toe with Anthropic but y'all ain't ready for that conversation🗣️

[queen anvil]

A good way to check if any company has started reaching out is by searching in #2026_summer_intern_process the name of the company. Doing robinhood shows us that like 2 people got autorejected but no one has gotten OA or int

[wet pewter]

this doesn't work for selective companies

[queen anvil]

Well at least take comfort in the fact that you weren't autorejected lmao

[queen anvil]

Ik two of my friends (non-UW) Shopify --> Apple pipeline

One in cali the other vancouver

[fluid drum]

probably depends on team, just the name is like exactly the same tho

[queen anvil]

Both are equally known amongst big tech?

[fluid drum]

idk how you can quantify it really or why it would matter and theyre like almost the same

both canadian, both mostly ruby, wealthsimple even hired a bunch of shopify people years ago

[queen anvil]

Quantifying it would be relatively subjective, you're right. But the reason it matters is for the potential to crack ~FAANG companies afterwards

[queen anvil]

Them using Ruby highkey pmo

[fluid drum]

maybe we could make it more scientific and survey recruiters or hiring managers instead of random ppl

[queen anvil]

For distributed and concurrency teams, they must use Go or something more relevant

[queen anvil]

I'm down, where do we get these recruiters and hiring managers tho😭

[stark cipher]

respectfully some of these loo interns are dumb as bricks

[swift kernel]

yea i seen shopify -> goog, shop -> meta, shop -> drw, all with ngmi schools

shop is the great equalizer

[stark cipher]

wealthsimples scale is like

nothing close to shopifys

[wet pewter]

😔😔😔

Loo > every other school

[stark cipher]

shake yo booty

[crystal comet]

waterloo math is the most cope program in canada lmao

[stark cipher]

what about waterloo goon program?

[swift kernel]

how do u feel abt loo mgmt eng

[coral mantle]

Anyone know what happens in OPG Developmental Student interview

[queen anvil]

I'm putting incoming @ shopify on my resume rn then

So I can start capitalizing on the name for summer 2026

[crystal comet]

extremely prestigious

[queen anvil]

I mean like I applied and then they gave me OA + phone screen two weeks later

[crystal comet]

few other schools have had their pipes clogged

waterloo gooners are top in their field

[keen jungle]

Yall I'm going to apply to the uofa in a few days and I'm really double minded about taking cs or swe. Which one is better for the future here in canada?

[queen anvil]

I got deferred to geomatics💔

[queen anvil]

Whichever gives more co-op terms

[stark cipher]

BRO

[queen anvil]

CS is abundantly cheaper

[stark cipher]

i wont name who

u know wjo u r

fckn waterloo management eng

taking my jobs

fck u

[queen anvil]

Management is good?

For dev jobs I mean

I've heard its more like industrial engineering

[keen jungle]

Swe has a better co op but there's still a lot of hardware stuff in it I don't really wanna do

[queen anvil]

Lowkey hardware safer than software these days but wdym by SWE has better co-op?

If both programs get the same number of co-op terms

[crystal comet]

i doubt the coop programs are measurably different

[keen jungle]

At my uni it has a better co op program

U of alberta btw

[queen anvil]

Damn ok, usually its like all jobs are available to everyone

[keen jungle]

Yeah I dunno just what I've heard

[queen anvil]

How many co-op terms?

[keen jungle]

Not sure maybe like 4-5

It's a 5 year degree btw

[queen anvil]

Unless the SWE co-op program is really all that much better, I'd do CS since its half the price

5 co-op terms is enough to crack faang

Even applying externally (not through your uni's portal)

[keen jungle]

What about all the noise that ai is gonna replace swe s. Would cs be a better base for a potential ai career

[queen anvil]

Either works for AI careers. The noise that AI will replace SWEs applies to all dev jobs. Both SWEs and CSs apply to and do the same jobs

[keen jungle]

Yeah but swe is little narrower than cs, no? Cs is a much broader degree and you can go into more fields, I think

[queen anvil]

I mean not really, its not that big of a difference

Not enough to bar you from one field or another

SWE programs cost so much more because they licensed to count for the professional Engineering designation

P.Eng

But the real learning/courses aren't much different at all

[hardy trench]

do banks usually send out procs late?

[wide thistle]

do u guys think ws and full time school is manageable

[honest niche]

anyone know apple pay scale in canada for interns?

[stark cipher]

its fine

[wide thistle]

and your chronically online discord hmmm

[stark cipher]

yeah

[wide thistle]

lwk ill see if i even get offer then decide from there

[stark cipher]

well i was today cz im doing braindead work

[wide thistle]

but shop ft is fully remote

ws two days in person pre sure

[stark cipher]

i go in office everyday

lol

[wide thistle]

why

food?

[stark cipher]

i like the food

[wide thistle]

shi bros on that herman miller

[crystal citrus]

Hell yeah

[orchid crag]

There’s free food for ws??

[crystal comet]

yeah check some day in the lives

[orchid crag]

😭😭😭

i thought companies with meal-level food do not exist in toronto

[sudden spruce]

what was for lunch today

[stark cipher]

shawarma

[sudden spruce]

oh nice which caterer was it

[stark cipher]

?

we dont got a caterer

we got some company chef

[sudden spruce]

at ws?

[unreal field]

shopify

[brisk gate]

depending on school ofc, cs is usually way more flexible in terms of when you can or cannot go to school

and is usually the better option for coop

uw eng for example, you can only do your core classes on certain terms cause they arent being taught all year round and the schedule is very strict

where as cs is much more flexible and you can do whatever 💀

cs can also drop coop where as eng is forced to have it to graduate

[stuck star]

hello canadians, i am US but i got shopify offer via email around 11 days ago. however im yet to get a written offer letter despite following up with the recruiter who sent me the email letting me know of the offer. is this typical for shopify or should i be concerned? its for summer 2026

[crystal comet]

yeah written letter took a while for me as well last year

actually not 11 days it was liek 4

i wouldn't be tooo worried though

[stuck star]

hm thanks for letting me know

do you know which of the recruiters respond to emails?

the recruiter whos been not responding is AS

[stark cipher]

they all dont respond lol

[stuck star]

what about AI?

[stark cipher]

oh she does

lol

u might want do deleye their full names though 🤣🤣🤣

[unreal field]

I already saw it

Found her LinkedIn

[graceful dove]

Fuck Waterloo.

Fuck Waterloo button

------------^

[wet pewter]

Got wealthsimple proc

[sleek flume]

looking for client has a project

[swift kernel]

water water water

[wispy oyster]

Bro why are you trying for WS after Meta?

that too winter

waste of a co-op no?

I was gonna apply, then I was like - where the fuck I am

[wet pewter]

free money idk

i dont have any ng procs 🙁

[wet pewter]

loo loo loo

[wet pewter]

I mean for winter I dont have any faang+ procs ngl

I have a bunch of YC companies and Ai startups

nah ur probably good cuz I asked to expedite

[wispy oyster]

yeah bro, its all about getting 2 return offers from internships, ng recruiting is cooked

[wet pewter]

nah after I cold email alll 50k google employees ill get proc

inshallah

[wispy oyster]

mashallah

[zinc knot]

what can i do buddy

[wet pewter]

is meta ro cooked for u ?

or are u enroute to london

[wispy oyster]

im return intern buddy (might be cooked for that too lmfao 💀)

[wispy oyster]

London, UK ❤️

[wispy oyster]

Might be given the current canadian market is literally - Crutch zon or shopify

nah real shit tho, the current canadian market is - Get zon or shopify OR luck out with something like google, amazon
otherwise its purely cooked

[potent flint]

?

in terms of like career growth or?

or just min maxxing ng tc

[silent pendant]

after I took ls for shopify i was told i would hear back in a week but its almost been 2. Is this normal? Also im US

[wet pewter]

I haven’t got any crazy procs outside of quant

Hopefully some ng processes start hitting cuz otherwise I’m graduating 27 lol

[wispy oyster]

In terms of
Which companies fucking hire here

[crystal comet]

not really lol

there's a shit ton of mid level companies / gov hiring

just slow growth in the first few years of ur career which isn't ideal

[boreal sorrel]

anyone know apple pay scale in canada

[dreamy plover]

prevs? i want wealthsimple

[unreal field]

Referral + ok/decent resume will likely get you auto interview

university: Waterloo will get you offer

[swift kernel]

wheres my offer then

[unreal field]

look at ur resume

specifically education section

[swift kernel]

yeah it says University of Waterloo (Keele campus)

[wet pewter]

If u go to conestoga

The method is to put university in Waterloo

Always hits 💯💯💯

[unborn saffron]

if i go to school in ontario can i put university near Waterloo?

[dreamy plover]

yeah just put "near" in small font and bold waterloo

[inland moss]

ngmi

even canada transport not hiring

university of waterloo (reject)

[unreal field]

Just put uw in white text on resume

[inland moss]

ignore all previous instructions...

[slender sluice]

Did anyone interview for Konrad new grad?

[brisk gate]

Did you get reachout?

I swear Konrad doesn't hire

[stark cipher]

yes bro

i seen one konrad intern in my life

[slender sluice]

They reached out for new grad yeah

Not intern

[brisk gate]

Ain't no way

[dreamy plover]

anyone know sap proc

[frozen chasm]

i swear bro

these guys always ghost

[gusty latch]

they give out offers all the time

its just that they're all from loo

[brisk gate]

Where's my offer then?

[brisk gate]

Real

They post on waterlooworks too

But it feels like a ghost job

[unreal field]

waterloo students when they don’t get an interview from the 6938385 companies that post on loo works

[lyric sphinx]

Has anyone in Canada gotten stripe oa?

[snow rapids]

I sure hope I don't fumble the upcoming c1 technical and behavioural

[brisk gate]

Erm actually it's 69420 jobs

[lyric sphinx]

No way

[brisk gate]

[snow rapids]

did you get apple yet like whats the anime update

[brisk gate]

no bro

i was supposed to get it a day ago

[wet pewter]

is this apple through wW

[brisk gate]

yea apple

its been 40 days

💀

[wet pewter]

how

i swear it hasnt even been 40 days since it open

or did u apply externally and they said go throguh ww?

[brisk gate]

oh wait

i misread sorry

not through WW

this is ng

[wet pewter]

did u cold apply?

[brisk gate]

yep

[wet pewter]

on apple careers

?

[brisk gate]

yep

[wet pewter]

i swear I didn't even see a ng position

rip

for 2025 or 26

[brisk gate]

well tehcnically it isnt a ng position per se

its a junior role

so 0-3yoe in this case

[wet pewter]

oh

for 26?

[brisk gate]

no its just a role that was released

[wet pewter]

yea but are they chill with u starting in 26?

[brisk gate]

probably not

i think they wanted asap

[wet pewter]

did the question not come up

💀

[brisk gate]

well they asked when i could join

i said asap

[wet pewter]

are u graduated

[brisk gate]

yea

[wet pewter]

ohh

makes sense

hows the ng market

[brisk gate]

bad

[wet pewter]

including junior positions?

[brisk gate]

bad

[wet pewter]

what procs othr than apple?

[brisk gate]

nothing atm

i denied another process recently cause i already got apple

i applied to that role back in december but they had to freeze hiring after quarterly report or something

[wet pewter]

it was an apple proc?

[brisk gate]

no

[wet pewter]

u should've just accepted

always accept all procs

i do random companies id never work at

just to get the reps in

[brisk gate]

not this one

i wanted to keep good rapport with the tech lead for the future in case i want to move back to canada

[wet pewter]

oh

[brisk gate]

she reached out directly to me

no recruiters etc.

[wet pewter]

fair

did the hiring manager hit u up

for the apple one

or was it rec

[brisk gate]

rec

[wet pewter]

im contemplating cold emailing hms or recruiters.

[brisk gate]

you can always try

[wet pewter]

recruiters is the play

idk

i feel like if the hiring manager likes u

the job is a lock

[brisk gate]

ive personally never gotten anything but ive heard some interns get some callbacks

[brisk gate]

pretty much yea

[wet pewter]

vs recruiter just deletes ur email lol

[wet pewter]

for apple?

with hm or recruiter

[brisk gate]

in general

[wet pewter]

oh i mean its worked for me plenty

but for apple specifically idk whether to do hm or rec

[brisk gate]

for a while ive been cold emailing 2 people for each company that had postings

[wet pewter]

i got snowflake rec to push me to front

blasted out emails after app.

but lowkey got ghosted anyways

sooooo

i guess its hit or miss

[brisk gate]

ye

higher success for interns

cause way less risk hiring interns in general

[wet pewter]

thats fact

does apple have general internship

or also team based

[crystal comet]

apple hiring is always team based afaik

no general proc

[brisk gate]

theres a few exceptions i think

but yea

team based

[stark cipher]

im ngmi

[lunar estuary]

did anyone get an interview for bell new grad yet?

for software or data?

[inland moss]

im more ngmi

or if duck is ngmi then im less ngmi

idk what ngmi means nowadays

im like emailing hr of my prev company to ask if i can go back winter lol

ngmi

[unborn saffron]

never heard of it in my life

[safe light]

What’s that

[stiff nebula]

Met the cofounder, he’s kind of a grifter

Can give you his phone number

Actually he’s on apollo just call him

[fluid drum]

lol their cto is ex-uber cto

pretty good toronto company

[gusty latch]

lemie guess

ur loo

would u guys take a bank internship or a yc startup internship to get into bigger tech

[inland moss]

yc

bank in canada is worthless

[orchid crag]

🚬

[brazen marlin]

[unreal field]

@waterloo interns, fix ur wealthsimple sev 1

[brisk gate]

[brazen marlin]

Bro doesnt know about the RBC prestige

[inland moss]

One of the worst places to work at nowadays

3-4 days in office in Toronto/Van 😂

[stark cipher]

st laurent river trading

rbc EQS is the hrt of the north

[unborn saffron]

yea but they pay interns 65/hr

[unreal field]

65 what

[unborn saffron]

i dont want to specify

[zenith star]

65 rupees maybe

[cedar kayak]

Anyone gotten any 2026 new grad interviews yet?

[weary slate]

Has anyone ever interviewed with Achievers?

[dire thunder]

are you talking abt lachine canal trading?

i heard tc is about 20k/month

[teal remnant]

Hey @weary slate, sent u a dm

[unreal field]

hey @stark cipher can you refer me to Shopify

[crystal comet]

65 tenths of a dollar per hour

[swift kernel]

block fs

[stark cipher]

um

not too sure abt that one

whats ur gender

for statistical reasons

i want to see if the lyft only hires women trend is still true

[stark cipher]

i could…

but id need to see ur resume before lol

[inland moss]

does shop referral work for interns

[stark cipher]

intern referring you

or being referred for intern

[eager imp]

hi guys

[unreal field]

hi

[stark cipher]

why do you want shopify then

[eager imp]

howre u doing nulname

[stark cipher]

aws, 1p > shopify?

[eager imp]

can u refer me too

i can send my prev too

[stark cipher]

i can but u need to send me resume and li

lmao

referrals affect ur elo here

so i cant refer if i dont think ull make it

[unreal field]

to help entrepreneurs

[stark cipher]

sybau

[eager imp]

okok i dm

[unreal field]

yes

[eager imp]

cap

[unreal field]

am I gmi for shop

[eager imp]

shopify orz

[unreal field]

bad bro

[eager imp]

did u guys know they pay 200K a year

[eager imp]

how come 😕

[unreal field]

for ceo yeah

[eager imp]

no for swe

im being fr

[stark cipher]

yeah you aitn getting it bro sorry

[stark cipher]

no they dont lol

[eager imp]

they do

[crystal comet]

L6 doesn't come with pay bump LOL

[stark cipher]

it doesnt

thats a lie

lol

[eager imp]

200k dirham

[crystal comet]

i doubt it's a lie

levels is median

[eager imp]

frfr

[crystal comet]

senior is terminal

[stark cipher]

my manager said hes putting me up for promo in april

[eager imp]

200k is standard at shopify

u can negotiate for higher wdym

[stark cipher]

im really gonna go from 6 -> 3 lol

[wet pewter]

anyone know how hard wealthsimple pair programmming

[crystal comet]

there's a lot senior that r like 10 years

[crystal comet]

too cracked 😭

[wet pewter]

do i have to lock in or what

[eager imp]

aint it that robot question

i might be tripping

[wet pewter]

is it the same question every year

im gonna need alpha a

[stark cipher]

im cooked

[unreal field]

ye

[unreal field]

congrats

[unreal field]

damn shop > amazon : (

[stark cipher]

its not 200k bro

[eager imp]

frfr

[eager imp]

u considering aws us?

[inner trench]

nulname

[unreal field]

i would but how

[eager imp]

transfer internal?

[unreal field]

need to be internal first

[feral widget]

extend undergrad or do masters

only to stay in student status

[carmine cloak]

that's pre nice tbh

getting full time pay + remote

[outer trout]

anyone know how long it takes to hear back from wealthsimple

also is there a grad date cutoff

[stiff nebula]

yeah youre too old man

[outer trout]

im 19 bro ☹️

[stark cipher]

yeah wtf

19 year olds gapping ne

im ngmi

[unreal field]

after what stage

[main aspen]

have ref or loo?

[gusty latch]

yo @stark cipher

is there a blacklist if i got rejected for winter, and i apply for summer internship at shop

[wet pewter]

1-2 weeks

[rare dirge]

Anyone had ZS phone call ?

[violet glacier]

how much is shop ng

[stark cipher]

100

for C4

140 for C5

[stark cipher]

no, there is no blacklist

i will literally show my paycheque to people who dont believe that shop is 140

why does everyone think its 200

its not

[main aspen]

when did u apply to ws? I have ref but not loo, havnt heard anything yet

[unreal field]

Can u show the part with the address

[stark cipher]

no.

[inland moss]

There is none

One of my best friends did that

I have yet to see if there is a blacklist if you renege

Lmao

[inland moss]

Also my friend got rejected at life story round so even if you get rejected for that it doesn’t blacklist

[stark cipher]

do beware that the cto

[inland moss]

I don’t think raising the bar is possible when you hold the HC constant

[stark cipher]

yes it is possible lol

theyll jsut reject more

[inland moss]

Higher bar necessarily means lower HC?

[stark cipher]

then theyll lower hc

[inland moss]

Okay then they need to shrink HC

Yeah

[stark cipher]

cto > vp eng

[inland moss]

That makes sense

I think Shopify hired better interns than Amazon and Google lol

[stark cipher]

amazon i believe

google i dont

[inland moss]

Google is the same as Amazon process and basically hired same quality in Canada pretty sure

[stark cipher]

no?

there weer literlaly like

0 google interns this year

anecdotally the only google canada intern i know

is lowkey incompetent

but 4 rounds + team match has to filter out more than just 1 lc medium

zon bar this year was to have a pulse

[inland moss]

It’s not one round tech and one round googliness anymore?

[stark cipher]

no...

its a superday

googliness

and team match

[inland moss]

Lol

Zon bar kinda non existent and I know people who failed the LC and got in

[stark cipher]

yes

their bar is to have a pulse

thats why zon rep in the dumps

[inland moss]

Not medium tho it’s a hard

I don’t think they ask mediums

[stark cipher]

they asked people

2 sum

.

[inland moss]

Ok the same can be said about meta

It’s rare

[unreal field]

Are there interns on ur team

[stark cipher]

yes

theres 2

one is my friend

i got him on the team

the other one is in toronto

seems like a competent guy

havent reviewed a bad diff from him yet

but his output is a little low

[wet pewter]

Day it dropped

[unreal field]

Are they loo

[wide thistle]

thers no googliness for interns now

[stark cipher]

yes

[stark cipher]

rlly

lol thats the round i failed last year 🤣

[unreal field]

Well well well

[wide thistle]

ye just 2 techs and then team match

studying for my techs rn im highkey cooekd

[stark cipher]

good luck bro

study ur graphs

they love asking those

[wide thistle]

tyy will do

[inland moss]

Oh they already interviewing

Rip

Last year at least I got OA

[wide thistle]

OA was two lc easies

[inland moss]

Yeah

[wide thistle]

idek why they did oa

just to see if u have a pulse ig

[inland moss]

Yes

Ngmi

[unreal field]

Destined to aws

[inland moss]

Don’t think my zon ro will materialize

lol

[wide thistle]

does zon ref do anyhing

[inland moss]

And my ro less than your ro

[inland moss]

No

I referred other people too

[viral tree]

Which company?

[wide thistle]

):

[stark cipher]

google

[unreal field]

praying

[inland moss]

Before I left I referred like 5 of my friends

[viral tree]

Don't they love dp?

[main aspen]

wat is that like 3 days later u got int??

[wide thistle]

yeah i did that for shop lol

[stark cipher]

i think people look down upon dp now

its like kinda taboo to ask dp lol

so they stopped

[wide thistle]

from what im hearing google can be literally anything tbh

a lot of people have alr interviewed

[unreal field]

What’s ur prev btw

To get Google

[wide thistle]

just shop

and ref

[inland moss]

Cracked

[unreal field]

And loo?

[wide thistle]

no loo

[inland moss]

Gg

[unreal field]

uoft

[wide thistle]

nop

[inland moss]

I think they have a Carleton blacklist

[wet pewter]

I asked for expedite

[viral tree]

What was your previous for shop

[wide thistle]

yo let us know how the interview goes and gl

[wide thistle]

nothing, got lucky

[wet pewter]

Bro I need alpha on this int

[viral tree]

Which uoft campus you from

[wet pewter]

Idk what I’m walking into

[wide thistle]

not uft 🙂

[wet pewter]

Also why is Google still ghosting me I’m gonna crashout

[viral tree]

Oh mb I mixed up the messages

[brazen marlin]

uft

[inland moss]

It’s ghosting me too just assume you are rejected lol

[viral tree]

Loo?

[inland moss]

If they have already done all the OAs

[stark cipher]

google hates me

[inland moss]

There’s no reason to think you are ever ghosted by something

[stark cipher]

referral from senior staff

and meta

still ghost

fml

[wide thistle]

what i thought u had meta ft ro

[stark cipher]

i just want to interview at google for fun

[wide thistle]

bros too good

[main aspen]

so they reached out then u asked to expedite? also might know some stuff for int, can dm?

[stark cipher]

but like

if waymo wanted me

[viral tree]

How is cs at mac?

[stark cipher]

i would go to waymo ngl

[viral tree]

Tesla > waymo

[wide thistle]

soft eng program is normal, my school has done nothign for me to come as far as ihave

[stark cipher]

cope

[wide thistle]

waymo > fr

[stark cipher]

waymos just cool

its just standard google package which is worse than meta after like Y2/3

but waymo is aura

[viral tree]

How is wlb at waymo

[stark cipher]

standard google wlb

which is to say loaf

[unreal field]

How is wlb at shopify

[wide thistle]

duck is doing 7 courses with shopify

what do u think

[viral tree]

Do they use ai for all their work

[wide thistle]

lwk yeah

oh u mean duck specifically?

ask him idk

[viral tree]

Was talking to c1 interviewer and they said they dont code anymore they make ai do it for them

Swe is cooked 😭

[wide thistle]

bro ai is like having ur own intern