canada

[burnt pecan]

Im banned from clio

[severe arrow]

Scam

Where’s admin

[narrow spade]

I don’t think you have a solid understanding of how Commonwealth economies operate. Canada’s entire service sector operates on immigrants, students, temporary visa holders, etc. We don’t have an illegal immigration problem or visa overstaying problem like the UK or the US. The liberals already implemented some measures, millions of student visas are ending in Canada at the end of this year.

Also anyone know how long Shopify usually takes to get back after OA? For the fall

[golden roost]

Summer was a month. Probably 2-3 weeks

[unborn saffron]

when should i start looking for winter postings

[alpine wadi]

too late they all got filled💔 🥀

[swift kernel]

oil up

[stiff crag]

do yall apply to US internships? Is it worth applying to US internships without any internships

[swift kernel]

yea it doesnt hurt

[marsh thorn]

Yes we do, we have an estimated 500k people illegally in Canada, and that doesn't include the people who got documents legally through lying and fraud. If the millions of student visas don't leave then we have an even bigger problem.

The rest of the country shouldn't prop up fast food joints at the expense of everyone else's housing costs, access to healthcare, infrastructure, and government services, the Liberal themselves admitted that fact when they announced reducing PR by 20%.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-undocumented-migrants-1.7425476

[fluid drum]

okay and what if hundreds of Tim Hortons are forced to close? where are you going to get ur coffee?

[marsh thorn]

I think a lot of people would want all TIm Hortons to shut down

if it means better access to healthcare

affordable housing

less traffic

less crowding

in Canada

[marsh thorn]

it's not even like fast food is cheap anymore

you can literally get a proper meal at a small locally owned restaurant

for the same price

as fast food chains

[fluid drum]

it doesn’t necessarily mean that. and you need someone to make your coffee for you

[marsh thorn]

yes it does

unless if they either a) work in healthcare too

in which case it would be better for them to dedicate it full time

[fluid drum]

me personally i’m physically and mentally incapable of making food for myself so i need a temporary foreign worker to do it for me

[marsh thorn]

or b) never get sick

in which that case

you need to tell me their secrets

[marsh thorn]

you can literally buy a proper meal at a small restaurant

for the same price

as a burger fry and drink

at McDonalds

[fluid drum]

but tim hortons is “canadian” (whatever that means)

[marsh thorn]

you forgot the /s

[fluid drum]

i think you are being reductionist

[marsh thorn]

the liberals literally admitted it

that their immigration was to address "labour shortages"

and that they're back tracking because "we couldn't get the balance quite right"

and that they were doing it to give breathing room for housing, healthcare, and infrastructure to keep up

how is it reductionist when the people who implemented it and tried backtracking on it admitted it themselves?

Mark Miller, the former immigration minister

is literally bragging that rents are going down in University towns

because he imposed a cap in international students

but off topic

did anyone else get really close to a job making it to the final round

only to get rejected?

@fluid drum
https://x.com/MarcMillerVM/status/1750981857779261686

Marc Miller ᐅᑭᒫᐃᐧᐅᓃᐸᐄᐧᐤᐃᔨᐣ (@MarcMiller...

“Bank of Canada governor Tiff Macklem says the newly announced cap on international student enrolments should help ease rent price inflation.” #cdnpoli https://t.co/alG9Uurbns

X · Jan 26, 2024, 8:39 PM

https://x.com/MarcMillerVM/status/1847612393452449997

Marc Miller ᐅᑭᒫᐃᐧᐅᓃᐸᐄᐧᐤᐃᔨᐣ (@MarcMiller...

“The deceleration in rents coincides with a significant cutback in net inflows of non-permanent residents.”👇 https://t.co/l3mNfPZE2G

X · Oct 19, 2024, 12:14 PM

[fluid drum]

what do the triangles in different orientations mean btw

[marsh thorn]

the one pointing up is delta

the greek leters

I think the one turned sideways

isn't a special symbol

just delta rotated

he has a bunch of greel letters in his name

oh wait

it's an indegnous language

chatgpt says it means "the chiefs are sleeping"

oh wow I didn't know it meant something

I thought he put random symbols on his twitter handle

[bronze rain]

anyone do shopify oa for fall?

[severe arrow]

Yes

[severe arrow]

what competition?

some random college from PEI is not my competition until waterloo starts reducing headcount this changes nothing

also canadian companies don't even want subsidized tech workers they'd rather offshore

[severe arrow]

W

honestly as long as we make it to senior we win the senior engineer shortage is only gonna get worse

[marsh thorn]

is the senior engineer shortage that bad?

I thought the market is bad even for (some) seniors in Canada

[severe arrow]

Well a lot of employers offering low market comp for senior positions and then complain they can’t find ppl

Lots of those jobs

[cedar kayak]

If applying to the US for new grad as a Canadian, how do you guys answer the following questions,

Q1. Are you authorized to work in the US?
Q2. Do you require employer sponsorship?

Would it make sense to say, yes and no respectively, since we only require a tn visa which is supposedly easy to get

[brisk gate]

say: yes and no

once you get a reachout, explain to your recruiter your current position

[cedar kayak]

Alright thank you

[brisk gate]

although the pins are correct in terms of truthfulness. I think its better to say yes, no in most cases. The exception is if they specifically mention TN or something in the application like amazon USA does

simply due to the fact that you might get auto screened out from many applications even if your school is a "target school"/ can self apply to the TN visa at no expense from the company

(me coping thinking uw is a target school for silicon valley yet here i am with 0 usa reachouts)

[severe arrow]

it kinda is, better than a lot of state schools

[brisk gate]

yea i know but here i am coping

[severe arrow]

I've had US interviews and don't go to waterloo

it's not even cope

just bad market

[brisk gate]

i mean like im coping with 0 usa outreaches

[severe arrow]

yeah fairs

[brisk gate]

on mad copium prepping for the may/june "surge"

just like the january "surge"

and the feb "surge"

[severe arrow]

same, jan and feb non-existent tho

[brisk gate]

and thus "surge"

😭

[severe arrow]

I pray for us both

[brisk gate]

same, my bruhther(?)

[floral tiger]

tiff needs to start the QE process lol

[mint gorge]

you have access to way more jobs than most canadian students. Just lower your standards of 200k tc to 100k instead, then you can get job

[brisk gate]

standards are not my issue imo

id be really happy if i can get 80k in vancouver rn

[dense crown]

Uw is such a huge advantage companies glaze tf out of uw

[vale solstice]

jan/feb surge was real to me

got like 4-5 interviews

april drought is real too 😔

[stiff crag]

Same bro

[rare shuttle]

Are we talking for intern or ng?

[vale solstice]

ng

[severe arrow]

Damn maybe I just suck

[brisk gate]

although thats true ive gotten 0 interviews since december

3 reachouts though

1 was supposed to be an interview but got delayed until may/june due to "corporate annual planning" 💀

2 game dev reachouts

1 was ea and they 99% prioritize local talent so wasnt given interview initially and most likely wont ever

other one is just slow

im so cooked

[dense crown]

reach out to startups, they love hiring uw ppl

so many yc uw alum

[brisk gate]

true but the position i applied for is goated

(imo)

[dense crown]

did you graduate from uw cs?

[brisk gate]

so im super sad i dont live in vancouver rn. I swear i wouldve gauranteed an interview if that were the case

naw uw ece

[dense crown]

oh i see

[dense crown]

what kinda position was it?

ml related?

[brisk gate]

its a 1 year paid training program -> full time

[dense crown]

oh interesting

[brisk gate]

you rotate within different teams and technologies to work for

[dense crown]

sounds similar to the texas instruments program

[brisk gate]

so you dont necessarily have to do game dev itself

[dense crown]

their career acclerator

sounds cool

you should apply for shopify, they are on a mission rn to get as many uw ppl for full time

[brisk gate]

you could end up working on ml or working on a game engine or internal tools

[dense crown]

like you would probably have guaranteed interview with shopify ngl

they are glazing uw lot rn 💀

[brisk gate]

funnily enough the other game dev position i got an outreach for is kinda similar

rotational training program -> full time

[brisk gate]

like shopify internship?

[dense crown]

nah like full time

[brisk gate]

ah i applied ft i think i got no response

[dense crown]

you should reach out to a recruiter on linkedin or something

they are genuinely on a mission to hire so many uw ppl

💀

[brisk gate]

💀

its remote too right?

[dense crown]

have you seen, they been hiring insane number of uw first years

for internships

[dense crown]

yea i believe so for ft

[brisk gate]

i think shopify is remote for ft

in person for internships

[dense crown]

yea

[brisk gate]

damn maybe ill try my luck again

hope they dont just transfer me to the internship pipeline since ng can apply there

welp

[dense crown]

lets be real all the interns are only gonna use shopify as a stepping stone

for us companies

new grad in general is rough

rn

[brisk gate]

congrats on being not jobless

[dense crown]

uw def gives huge buff tho

[swift kernel]

nah they dgaf there's york mans at ea

[brisk gate]

they do. they literally told me

since youre out of town, its more competitive

they did their 1st round of in person interviews last week, 11 candidates, 11 positions

was talking to one of the candidates

99% they prio local talent

obviously if not all 11 candidates pass their hiring bar, they go down the list of people theyve already phone screened before

[swift kernel]

damn i had no idea york was in van

[frozen chasm]

what if u had a van address lol

[brisk gate]

maybe not for internships but this particular position they do

[brisk gate]

i wish i did

[frozen chasm]

friend?

[brisk gate]

shouldve lied to recruiter and said i had family there

[frozen chasm]

yeah

u could always say u r staying there till u get ur own place

[brisk gate]

yea i have friends there

might not make a difference in the end since they do onsites for locals

and maybe theres some bs rule with that

[frozen chasm]

honestly its cheap enough to go flair to van lmao

at this point

[brisk gate]

[frozen chasm]

dw soon

smth comning

[brisk gate]

ea position flopped

1% chance for recovery

[frozen chasm]

nah bro u got this

[frozen chasm]

was it the sport academy thing?

[brisk gate]

yea

[frozen chasm]

it looked pretty interesting

[brisk gate]

was told they filter out super hard before phone screen

[frozen chasm]

damn

didnt know their bar was so high

[brisk gate]

only to get to the phone screen and no interview

unfort

[frozen chasm]

:(

[swift kernel]

u got it bro loo is God's chosen university

[frozen chasm]

lol

[brisk gate]

all part of gods plan

watching us suffer

[frozen chasm]

loo to quant

u only see loo kids at those firms

[meager tendon]

@brisk gate apply to veeva bro, they glazing yall UW mfs hard

that company only hires from target schools

[brisk gate]

gpa is too low for veeva LMAO

might cold reach to recruiter see if they actually care or not

[daring slate]

How about for a 24 May grad still searching too, non-target school 🥲

[ripe ibex]

their work arrangement is really weird

juniors have to come in most days, but seniors are remote

so u don't get the interactions that in office is supposed to give

plus u get monitored on time in office like school children

[dense crown]

i thought these companies dont rly care abt gpa

just dont include it in ur resume lol

[brisk gate]

on the posting they say they want 3.3gpa or higher

rare instance where they seem to care

[dense crown]

i feel like you should just apply and see what happens

[brisk gate]

gonna cold outreach a recruiter first though

[dense crown]

👍

[dense crown]

btw just curious what percent of ur ece cohort is working in the us rn

if you have a rough idea

[brisk gate]

no idea but i think large amount are at amazon

which makes sense

[dense crown]

hm i see

[brisk gate]

amazon the saviour of new grad canada 😭

lemme confirm

[dense crown]

zon hired sm uoft 2nd years

[brisk gate]

makes sense

big office in toronto

zon employes mostly ubc/uoft

google mostly uw

shopify mostly careleton and uottawa etc.

[dense crown]

i feel like zon hires more uw

idk

[dense crown]

shopify is now hiring mostly uw 💀

[brisk gate]

i might be spitting old data

but it makes sense

[dense crown]

if only i didn't get rejected by uw ece 😔

[brisk gate]

they setup their offices where the schools are

[dense crown]

yea google got an office in kitchener for uw ppl lmao

[brisk gate]

im looking at our class profile not that many people answered the question

but of the 40 or 50 people that answered the location survey its mostly toronto

[dense crown]

i see

[brisk gate]

and yea mostly amazon

[dense crown]

im surprised its amazon

thought it would mostly be like tesla

[brisk gate]

not many people answered that portion of the survey to be fair

[dense crown]

amd w

[brisk gate]

and the survey was taken ~ grad

[dense crown]

amd is the one of few companies that glazes uoft more than uw 💀

[brisk gate]

so im guessing theres a percentage of students that didnt have a job by then

[dense crown]

yea makes sense

new grad also rough asf around then

[brisk gate]

and obv the people that didnt answer or couldnt answer

[brisk gate]

uw ece = trade your soul + maybe get a good job

maybe

https://www.jasonpang.net/uw/soul-transfer.pdf

[dense crown]

every other uni = trade your soul + don't get job + homeless

[dense crown]

😂

[fallen sigil]

what companies hire York Univeristy mostly?

am i cooked?

[brisk gate]

ngl if i wasnt in eng i might be in a better off spot

i am not smart

so i got destroyed in school

and did not put enough time into coop

[dense crown]

accordingly to linkedin most york cs ppl get hired by ibm

[fallen sigil]

please ibm hire me

[dense crown]

this is from 2.4k york cs ppl working in engineering

[fallen sigil]

thanks

[dense crown]

np

[dense crown]

what other options did you have aside from uw ece?

[brisk gate]

uw geomatics
mcmaster eng
uoft math
carleton u ottawa stuff
western eng

probably missing some but i did not apply to many schools

0 schools on west coast

maybe shouldve at least tried ubc

[wind badger]

seen a lot of uoft and uofg lately too

they're funny

[dense crown]

hm i see

yea uw ece was def ur best option anyways

[shrewd rampart]

ibm? damn

didnt know they were this big for the yorks

[balmy sable]

Has anyone given squarepoint graduate SD-python interview recently?

[meager tendon]

how many jobs yall applied to so far ?

if you're actively tracking it

[severe arrow]

Stopped tracking after like 700

[meager tendon]

ng or intern

[severe arrow]

Ng

[lost lark]

No

[brisk gate]

i dunno...

might be less depressed from the workload

[severe arrow]

depends what else you did

or would do

[brisk gate]

ye ofc

which is why i said i might be better off

[severe arrow]

I regret not taking a PE return

mistakes were made

[brisk gate]

definitely better to have mental not boomed vs mental boomed

at least it built character and still is

[severe arrow]

long run we'll prob be fine short term pain long term gain

[brisk gate]

agreed

[severe arrow]

or maybe the economic system is completely fragmented and it's never going to recover

[daring slate]

Do y’all think the job market will actually get better?

[narrow spade]

Has anyone here been referred to loblaws recently? Had a question about how the new referral system works

[wheat comet]

Anyone get shopify interview after OA?

[narrow spade]

Has anyone gotten one yet?

[wheat comet]

Idk thats why im asking

Yk anyone that hasv

?

Deadline for oa was today midnight so maybe after today

[narrow spade]

prolly

[eager raven]

How much does Shopify Canada pay interns

[plush echo]

40s

does anyone know if shopify start every ng at L4?

[orchid crag]

wtf🤡

is this fr

[wheat comet]

Yea but within L4 theres C4 C5

Most people dont get started in c5

[celest granite]

any one play AWS cloud quest. lol I am playing it to recertify for free for AWS CCP.

[wind badger]

This was pushed on us so much when we had company wide aws meeting 😭😭

[wooden hearth]

if u apply to shopify towards the end of the week do u still get automatic oa?

[lost lark]

Banks

Same with ryerson

[compact zodiac]

Yeah I applied Friday night got it Saturday morning

[plush echo]

so does shopify just pay

a lot less than other tech companies??

i guess u cant compare it to google and stuff but they all do 150 ng

like faire is also 150

[wheat comet]

I only know one person who got an offer at shopify and their TC was higher than whats on levels for l4

[plush echo]

oh alr

sgsg

thx for info

[wooden hearth]

do u have to turn on camera for shopify oa?

[odd saddle]

nope

[swift kernel]

yea and they make u do a hirevue video after

[ripe ibex]

forget 996, 007 let's go

[novel dome]

anyone doing binance process?

[fallen sigil]

Can you send the link for Canada version for Binance

[novel dome]

what you mean?

[fallen sigil]

What is the Binance process ?

[obtuse tulip]

Anyone interview with Konrad?

[novel dome]

Like their interviews or OA

[solid flame]

when did you apply

[novel dome]

A while back

[junior hazel]

i've heard returning interns can start l5

[plush echo]

dubs ok

idk why im so invested in shopify i dont even work there

[junior hazel]

i also heard from current intern that it's possible to start l6 (with exceptional work)

but probably trolling

[plush echo]

thats definitely trolling tf 😭

[junior hazel]

idk

lol

i feel like shopify does some wacky stuff

not totally unbelieveable 😭

[plush echo]

maybe they're the greatest vibe coder to exist

[burnt pecan]

My friend tyrone from york university started at l6

[thick flax]

Has anyone interviewed at theScore?

[golden roost]

For which position

[thick flax]

Data analyst

[golden roost]

If u go to loo ur chilling

[thick flax]

I don’t 😂

[golden roost]

Then forget about it

[thick flax]

They only hire loo kids?

[golden roost]

95%

[thick flax]

Damn waste of my time then

Got my hopes up for nothing lol

[severe arrow]

be the 5%

[thick flax]

I like that thinking

Can’t seem to find anyone who’s done a data analyst interview with theScore online though

[swift kernel]

only misinformation in this server i stg

[wind badger]

False

Tons of uoft kids

As well

[celest granite]

any albanians (or anyone else) here working at RBC. I was looking for a referal for the bedford office.

[lethal cedar]

to what are the odds of getting denied my J-1 visa at the border

[icy cave]

@forest crane why do you glaze playp so much

dont pmo

[forest crane]

who r u bro and why u tagging me in a diff server

that’s next level wierd

[icy cave]

your gonna be the next playp at this rate

[queen flower]

first thing i see when i look at this channel is that another company only hires UW ...

at least it turned out not to be true lol

otherwise id be cooked bc i only got uoft and im defo getting rejected from UW

[crystal citrus]

i can call in some favors

[lethal cedar]

don’t listen to these ppl, uoft still does very well with all canadian companies

plus decent outcomes in the US too

loo is better but at uoft you are still advantaged over most other cs majors

[severe arrow]

imagine going to neither

[rustic spire]

whats stackadapt base and tc

[quartz ridge]

Yo

What up

[quartz ridge]

165 base new grad SWE. 158 new grad data eng

Toronto btw

[rustic spire]

ah same as bitgo

Both stackadapt and bitgo stock options depend on when they ipo right

Else pretty much useless

[rustic spire]

do u work at stackadapt?

[quartz ridge]

I don’t but got friends at Waterloo there

The base is insane lmao

[rustic spire]

yeah same as bitgo

i mean it makes sense

the reason base is so high is cause stock options are kinda worthless

unless they ipo

[fallen mason]

Is it bad if my last internship was jan 2024

gonna apply for fall

[flint vale]

Also interested in this

[dreamy patio]

has angone applied for Software Developer II, Site Reliability Developer, Google Cloud - Canada and got respons from google?

[quartz ridge]

Anyone know what is better than Facebook

Looking for my next move?

Anyone?

[lethal cedar]

maybe like a top tier unicorn

or quant firm

or top IPO'd prev unicorn

[quartz ridge]

Any examples?

[swift kernel]

Apple TV

actually Gaotek >>>

[quartz ridge]

Gaotek is up there now?

[swift kernel]

always been

[quartz ridge]

Is quant better than big tech?

[quartz ridge]

Could u provenance an example

[lethal cedar]

openai, anthropic, databricks

databricks might be a sidegrade acc

[lethal cedar]

just depends on what u want

top quant pay is obv way better if you are early career

[quartz ridge]

Very logical

[quartz ridge]

How about snowflake

Cohere?

ScaleAI?

[novel summit]

i heard they pay filthy amount

[quartz ridge]

I heard 550k for algo dev at HRT

But sounds good

[rustic spire]

how much does rippling pay in canada. base and tc. new grad

[lethal cedar]

these are all very good but i feel like they’re mostly a sidegrade

for these companies i don’t think ppl would definitively say they are better than meta or vice versa

[quartz ridge]

But isn’t snowflake and databricks better than Amazon

Like within faang how would u rank?

Overall the faang companies

[lethal cedar]

prob goes amazon < apple < google == meta <= netflix

[crystal citrus]

Shopify

[lethal cedar]

but going from meta to amazon for example isn’t necessarily bad imo

like amazon is still very good

[quartz ridge]

Yeah you’re a beast

That makes complete sense lmao

What’s reasoning for apple < Google?

[lethal cedar]

better pay and better prestige overall

[quartz ridge]

Thoughts on where NVIDIA fits in. As well as cohere, scaleAI, perplexity, datadog?

[lethal cedar]

idk i can’t really give a definitive answer idrk very much but imo

[quartz ridge]

Which of those can u give definition?

Definitive?

[lethal cedar]

nvidia probably == apple

[quartz ridge]

Okay that one I don’t agree

But every other thing you said

I completely agree

I think NVIDIA at least as good as Google meta

[lethal cedar]

eh i mean ng pay isn’t that great tho that’s the only thing

cohere imo is probably like == zon imo

i’m very unsure about cohere actually

[quartz ridge]

But career is long

New grad is a spec of sand on a fat beach

[lethal cedar]

true well idk much beyond ng tbh

[quartz ridge]

And what about Jane street vs open ai

[lethal cedar]

for swe i think most ppl would choose jane street

but imo i would rather join openai

[quartz ridge]

I am currently at Apple but looking for a big jump to kickstart my career further

[lethal cedar]

i feel like once you're at apple its hard to make a really big jump unless you go quant or to the very top unicorns

[quartz ridge]

So u are saying I am almost at the top

?

Like I’m close to my peak as a swe

[lethal cedar]

i mean it depends on what you want

[quartz ridge]

I want money

[lethal cedar]

idt im qualified to give advice but

[quartz ridge]

And good work

And a good wife lol

Like those are the basics of an alpha male swe

[lethal cedar]

💀

[crystal citrus]

oh nah

[quartz ridge]

Need 100k+ base, good work and good wife.

[lethal cedar]

i mean for some ppl it might be better to work at like a really small startup thats growing really fast vs. faang

[quartz ridge]

I guess so

But u also have no prestige

And the tech is immature

[lethal cedar]

objectively peak career is if you can found or be early team at a unicorn

but obv theres a lot of risk

[quartz ridge]

It may never become a unicorn

[lethal cedar]

so you cant say it's an "upgrade" or "downgrade" over something stable like faang

yeah exactly

[quartz ridge]

Also do you jump job every year or two

To max pay

Or do u stay and be a lifer?

What is the preferred method of inauguration

[lethal cedar]

no clue im still in school bro lmao

[quartz ridge]

Oh okay

[crystal citrus]

these are some blind ass questions

go on there and ask

[novel summit]

yall dont get enough money at apple ?

[quartz ridge]

150k tc

[lethal cedar]

are you ng?

[quartz ridge]

Yes

The reason is because I’m on the IS & T team

[novel summit]

bruh thats in the top 90% for ng

[quartz ridge]

My manager is ex-Wipro

[lethal cedar]

well TC wise you have a good amount of room to upgrade ig

[quartz ridge]

And my TL is ex-Infosys

Like my team is a bit of a cook

Cooked

But I have Apple name

[lethal cedar]

i feel like upgrading also depends a lot on team

[quartz ridge]

Top 90 or top 10

[lethal cedar]

like aws >> regular zon

[quartz ridge]

What is a good tC for a high iq person like myself?

[novel summit]

above 90

[quartz ridge]

I don’t compare to hormone

Normie**

[lethal cedar]

i cant tell if you're trolling 💀

[novel summit]

2 mil ez

[crystal citrus]

no shot

[quartz ridge]

No like. Reasonable TC

My starting if 150 TC

[lethal cedar]

bro is obv trolling but idk if he really be asking the questions

[crystal citrus]

bro had you wrapped around his finger

[lethal cedar]

you feel me

[quartz ridge]

I want to make 160 above soon

Yeah but Mitch actually packed with knowledge

Need to tap into

[crystal citrus]

what the fuck

yeah delete that shit

[quartz ridge]

Ur 19?

I’m 27 lol

I changed careers my old one was a courier for MySpace deliveries

Turning 28 in sophomore year

Doing a masters at Georgia tech major in cs minor in statistical arbitrage

[lethal cedar]

myspace delivery gaps

[quartz ridge]

But yeah hopefully going to make a jump to Lyft soon

Wonder where Lyft sits in between apps and google

Apple and google I reckon

Lyft > Uber due to logo gap

But the tech stack at uber is Django with Perl from what I heard from the TL of my sister teams

Legacy tech with major monolith

[lethal cedar]

lyft is cool

[quartz ridge]

Soooooo cool

My dream is

Atrophy

It’s better than OpenAI

[lethal cedar]

what is that

[quartz ridge]

Anthropocene*

It’s another LLM maker

They make LLM with better vision

[lethal cedar]

is that even a real company

[quartz ridge]

Genetic engineering

And you are going to make bank off IPO

[lethal cedar]

how did we go from llm to genetic engineering

[quartz ridge]

Yeah you said it earlier

[lethal cedar]

Anthropic? 💀

[quartz ridge]

Yes

Exactly

[crystal citrus]

mitch ur going in the hall of fame

[lethal cedar]

bro im just bored

waiting for my shift at work to end

[quartz ridge]

Does anyone want to mock interview me

I need to practice for my snowflake interim

[crystal citrus]

id pay to watch this ^

[quartz ridge]

Scan somebody conduct mocker

Need mocker

Leetcode medium with no heffley

dP

[honest niche]

Lol

[harsh widget]

lol

no

[inland summit]

How can I be sigma male 10x dev 🥺🥺🥺🥺

[bold schooner]

Has anyone interviewed for bmo quant?

[harsh widget]

yes

was all math/stats

[fallen mason]

Yo I got zon OA for junior dev intern for the seattle position, is it possible to move it to the vancouver one?

I'd love to work in seattle but idt they sponsor

[severe arrow]

are you canadian citizen?

[wind badger]

do they accept tn?

you can self sponsor

[severe arrow]

it's internship

but they def would do J-1 for amazon

[wind badger]

oh mb

[quartz ridge]

Hey anyone know what’s better than Facebook?

Wanna make jump

[fallen mason]

yeah i am

[fallen mason]

It's the position where you work part time during school and full time in the summer though

[severe arrow]

J-1 can be up to 12 months so should be fine

if not they likely would just put you through a summer pipeline or transfer you if you pass all your interviews; I wouldn't worry about something since you only just got the OA

try to get the offer first

[fallen mason]

Hmm true but what if I get rejected after OA cuz they see im canadian

[severe arrow]

ah yes so just don't do it then since they might auto reject based on nothing but your own assumptions

[restive quest]

https://tenor.com/view/time-hope-illusion-time-like-hope-is-an-illusion-lumalee-gif-17457204059419812518

[harsh widget]

they will reject you cause you are woot

not because canadian

[zenith star]

<@&868936794601828492>

[regal lotus]

@glad echo thanks for helping me get 1FAANG internship in mumbai 🙂

[void needle]

anyone hear from shopify intern role after doing OA? how lkong does it usually take

[wind badger]

lots of ppl, mainly from waterloo #2025_summer_intern_process

[fallen mason]

How should I study for zon OA?

[wind notch]

Yeah if you make a viral video and post it online to pass the gatekeepers then you should hear back ASAP with an offer

[dense crown]

if you don't go to loo gg

[dusky elm]

Hi everyone, is anyone looking for a roommate in Vancouver around mid-June? Feel free to message me. Thanks!

[crystal comet]

has anyone non-loo gotten an int yet?

[bold schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-me-drink-bleach-gif-22890796

[bold schooner]

Ye

I have

Uofa

[reef stone]

Let me guess, referral from loo student working at shopify

[bold schooner]

nah

uofa student workin there reffered me

[fluid drum]

it’s not even that selective they hire anyone

[grave quest]

they aint hire me

[ivory pond]

me neither

[brisk gate]

im new grad from uw and they aint hire me

dont know if its skill issue or the fact that ive already graduated

[honest niche]

Both

[vital girder]

CS?

[brisk gate]

no

[vital girder]

If so, that's cooked

[brisk gate]

comp eng

[vital girder]

Oh

[brisk gate]

comp eng L?

[vital girder]

No that's pretty good

But also isn't it an internship ur going talking about?

[brisk gate]

i think the shopify new grad pipeline is applying for the internship -> fulltime

[vital girder]

Oh I see, ok

[brisk gate]

or just RO from prev internship

afaik demonware and shopify are 2 companies in canada that accept ng for their internships

[grave quest]

comp eng is pretty strong, not alot cs folks I know have some expertise in hardware stuff as well as software

you could look for new grad rotational programs

alot of banks and companies hire cohorts around now i believe from my experienece

[brisk gate]

hmm

ngl ive only seen that from telus, ea and 2k

like those new grad rotational programs

[dense crown]

those ngs probably have return offers from better places

ppl just use shopify as a stepping stone to us companies

[dense crown]

have you looked into embedded type roles btw

tesla hires lot of embedded ppl from uw ece

[brisk gate]

i have an interview for astera labs (hopefully) in a couple months

corporate delayed hiring so no news until may/june

also think i recently applied to tesla for embedded

[vital girder]

Good luck

[spring patio]

No shot

[dense crown]

sentry is out i believe

[wheat comet]

do u know if people got the OA

[thick sinew]

Not me 😢

[solid flame]

shopify is joever

[dense crown]

i've only really seen loo ppl get interviews 😔

rip

just curious what made you decide to pursue a cs masters?

ah fair, extend ur grad date to get more experience?

[flint sandal]

Surprise phanski experience

[dense crown]

ah i see that's totally fair

which university do you go to btw, that's an interesting coop structure you have

oh ok

did you try for masters at other institutions?

ive heard the reputation for omscs has gone down but its def solid

did you apply for uoft mscac or the msc

the mscac is usually easier to get into

oh ok

gl with ur job search

this market sucks rn for everyone

[fluid harness]

!!!

[flint sandal]

Omscs is literally indistinguishable from mscs at one of the best schools in the world lmao

[reef stone]

I hope you're not jobless anymore

[bold schooner]

Not from loo

Ive done both summer and winter interviews for shop this year as well as fall pair and they were all after a month a loo person had it etc

Except for fall

That one was quite fast

In scheduling

[leaden kiln]

Anyone interviewed at ss&c recently?

[tulip nebula]

anyone going to yc ai startup school 💀 🙏

[restive quest]

How the fuck can you find ANY interview in this country !?

[crystal comet]

easily

[zenith star]

genuine skill issue

[spring patio]

Apply to hundreds off jobs maybe

[deft rain]

Is Texas instruments auto OA?

[dreamy patio]

i didnt get it

[deft rain]

I applied March 4th but they repost the job like every week lol.

You might get it after

[dreamy patio]

yeahh i had applied earlier

no OA

so not auto i guess

[buoyant sage]

Has anyone recently interviewed at Marqeta? For SWE2

[lament sable]

anyone recently interview for amazon SDE FTE CAN? also anyone know what WWAS is for zon?

[restive quest]

And after that ?

[graceful dove]

any news from Shopify @everyone

[spring patio]

Just keep applying leetcoding networking cold emailing refining & tailoring resume per apppication

[restive quest]

For another year ? Ok

[spring patio]

Maybe you’re just not doing it right, it should work if you’re following the correct road map

[brisk gate]

any ng get shopify interview?

[narrow spade]

does nokia pay for relocation?

[bold schooner]

no

u get paid based off prev coops

its between 28-38

[daring slate]

Does shopify have ng postings?

[swift kernel]

yeah

[brisk gate]

Not that I've seen tbh

I think for ng you go intern and get the ro

[long vessel]

wtf and I’m still not rejected not saying I want to but

💀

[reef stone]

That's for new grad I believe, not intern (please correct me if im wrong)

[long vessel]

It says internship

[eager raven]

For anyone who got Amazon summer internship Canada, what are the start date options they give

[reef stone]

oh wtf

@celest granite did you apply for internship?

regardless, I hope many people here are able to secure it

[sinful egret]

I just got a rejection from Shopify’s Dev degree but I don’t remember applying to that

Did I just get rejected but they sent the wrong email or

[long vessel]

I got mine too

[sinful egret]

You got a dev degree rejection?

[long vessel]

oups sorry

Internship

[sinful egret]

That’s what I’m confused about

Cuz I got rejected from dev degree

But I don’t even remember applying

So idk if they meant to give me an internship rejection but system messed up and sent the dev degree one

[wheat comet]

They dont do ng

[heady ravine]

Sentry sent me an email to make “untapped account” is it auto?

[limpid raft]

Ye I think so

[restive quest]

there's a roadmap ? Didn't know that, where can I find it ?

[spring patio]

Just go watch YouTube videos on how to land a tech internship bro, you need high initiative

[chrome lion]

anyone still ghosted by shop for the fall internship? looks like they sent a rejection wave but I still haven't gotten any response after OA

I'm coping that they're still rolling out interviews and I'm on a waitlist...

[brisk gate]

naw ng search is probably the worst its been

actually fricked

[wind badger]

nah they're just slow

i got my rejection like 3 hours after someone else

[wind notch]

When did shopify stop doing the take home project for internships? During AI boom?

[vital girder]

Bro I remember that last year September, there was like 1K+ pull requests on the GitHub repo they made

[tall fern]

Wait Shopify has no seperate ng program?

[wheat comet]

not that i know of

[slender swan]

Their NG pipeline is 100% intern conversion

[plush echo]

anyone know how good public mobile and freedom's US-canada plan is?

[ivory pond]

If ur going to the US don’t u get free mint mobile simcard with ur visa

I think most ppl do mint mobile or google fi

[plush echo]

i think i need a US number regardless

but u get data with public mobile and freedom

[ivory pond]

“With campusSIMs, you receive your SIM card and U.S. phone number while still in your home country so you’re ready to go before you leave and connected the minute you land.”

[hot rapids]

I used freedom's

it was great for me, but only 4g LTE. They just put you on AT&T or verizon

[plush echo]

idk i didnt get that ROFL

[hot rapids]

whichever is operating in the area

really good deal man. $35, you get to keep your number, keep your current plan (but LTE, no 5g)

but yeah, it worked perfectly in seattle area

[plush echo]

alr thx

[graceful dove]

Habibi, Come to Canada

[hot rapids]

i am in canada 😭

[ivory pond]

Seems pretty good

[plush echo]

whos ur visa provider?

[ivory pond]

Idek ngl

Deloitte or BAL

[plush echo]

thats the lawyer

i mean the host organization thing

[hot rapids]

bros gonna get sent back at the border 😭

[ivory pond]

I’ll get back to u on that tbh

[plush echo]

bro is not making it past customs

[graceful dove]

can it fukk me if I now give word resume instead of pdf (tired of changing->export ...)???

[hot rapids]

stick to PDFs

even if there's a 1% chance their systems can't parse the word doc, why even risk it : (

[graceful dove]

AI's recruiter read better the word file vs pdf

[plush echo]

exported word file is fine

latex sometimes gets messed up

[ivory pond]

AISEC

[graceful dove]

ayt

[reef stone]

you use word instead of pdf?

[plush echo]

No word file exported to pdf

Instead of latex

It’s good for parsing

[hot rapids]

I thought this person was asking word file or PDF

They said they’re tired of exporting to PDF on word 😭

[vivid fiber]

Have you actually confirmed this?

Because generally this is not true

[plush echo]

uon think so?

ive heard some latex formats fuck with ats for sure

[fluid drum]

Why not just have a resume in markdown?

It’s easier to parse and do stuff with. Way better format

[tulip nebula]

why did bro apply to shopify

🥀

work at the other green company frl

[plush echo]

i mostly wanted to do their OA

for LC practice

wait ur not wrong the linkedin color scheme will go crazy

i alr worked at 2 green companies before

[zinc knot]

Which

[plush echo]

a startup and manulife

nvidia's green and shopify's is pretty similar

but manulife's is a lot more greener

[tulip nebula]

💀

lmao

go work at modal or smth

next

[plush echo]

naw they're black and green

[tulip nebula]

😮‍💨

[rare shuttle]

Gg

[lost lark]

Which companies hire remote low pay super chill

[ivory pond]

low pay?

[lost lark]

Yes

Like low / mid whatever

[fluid drum]

banks

[lost lark]

Not remote

[teal remnant]

Banks pay around market average

Super chill work tho

[unborn saffron]

are you allowed to work at nvidia if you have an amd gpu

[teal remnant]

Work at intel

[unborn saffron]

what if i have an amd cpu as well

[graceful dove]

Why Shopify Canada only recruits international student, wtf, they forget Canadians harder than last times

[crystal citrus]

what gpu

[unborn saffron]

rx6800

[crystal citrus]

my drilla

https://tenor.com/view/maadrilla-gif-17808843057487505071

[dense crown]

They mostly just hired out of uw

[reef stone]

not for bachelors, lots of internationals for masters

[spring patio]

Not really I’m surprised non Waterloo got some

[fluid drum]

shopify or amazon better?

[thin birch]

What’s the offer

[compact zodiac]

Amazon

[reef stone]

This shouldn't be a debate

[molten raven]

Hey I have an interview for the same title soon. How did it go for you?

[lethal cedar]

100% amazon

[safe light]

Amazon this isn’t even a debate

[safe light]

What

Canadian companies legally discriminate against international students

I know people who got their offers TC lowered once the company figured out they were not citizen

[marsh thorn]

hold on

was this before an official offer?

like did they get an official offer

realized they were int'l

then gave another one?

or did they give a lower one compared to their peers?

[fair vigil]

@high path

[high path]

Stfu

Lmao

[reef stone]

Rather weird thing for a shopify dev to be posting

[ripe ibex]

is shopify a cult

[mild mesa]

Thoughts on the Stereo nightclub in Montreal?

[wheat comet]

A cs discord not ideal place to ask 😅

[grave quest]

who are u gonna see

[zenith star]

New city gas is better

[fickle juniper]

What question # is that on Leetcode?

[grave quest]

new shitty gas

[graceful dove]

in amazon yes

[real mason]

anyone know what palantir pays in canada?

[spring patio]

Prob like 7/8k internship

[real storm]

palantir has positions in canada?

[real mason]

They have a forward deployed software engineer position up for Ottawa

[real storm]

oh shit just looked this up

that's dope

[compact zodiac]

do returning shopify new grads get placed in l5?

l4 seems like its barely a bump on coop pay

[crystal comet]

some

most are L4

[compact zodiac]

does that depend on performance?

cuz l4 seems low according to

https://www.levels.fyi/companies/shopify/salaries/software-engineer?country=43&yoeChoice=junior

[restive quest]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-for-a-job-job-jobless-unemployed-hire-me-gif-17955750

[plush echo]

theres two pay levels in L4

I think C4 and C5

u can also start L5

[solid flame]

what the fuck is this p&g oa 😭

been doing iq tests for like an hour

[mystic junco]

im acc kinda sad i missed the shopify fall internship applicatin

if i got it, i coulda tasted the toronto nightlife

[brisk gate]

i heard if you go to loo you pretty much just insta get the interview (assuming oa is good)

well i graduated from loo but where interview

any new grads get shopify intern interview for fall?

[mystic cliff]

I'm looking for referrals for big/medium/small tech companies in Canada for full-time SDE positions. I've a 3-4 years of work ex, could share more details in DM. It would be greatly appreciated if anybody can refer me to their companies. Thanks! 🙏

[fallen mason]

Which one is better for resume?

Spearheaded user-friendly diagnostic tools using Elasticsearch, Logstash and Kibana, coordinating with cross-functional teams to consolidate error logs and reduce debugging time by 90% across 30+ issues.

Collaborated with cross-functional teams to pioneer user-friendly diagnostic tools using Elasticsearch, Logstash and Kibana, reducing troubleshooting time by 90% across 30+ issues.

[spring patio]

Bottom

[vivid fiber]

https://events.datadoghq.com/events/datadog-live-toronto

[tulip nebula]

Anyone know what shopify requires for references?

[marsh thorn]

Getting rejected from interviews you thought went well

multiple times

is actually the worst 😭

like bruh

it's better to feel hopeless

than to get it shattered

[wheat comet]

felt

[narrow spade]

does cisco hire pm interns in canada?

[marsh thorn]

with the interviewer?

[bold schooner]

No

Sdet sde hardware

PM USA

They dint sponsor

[crystal comet]

L5 is C5

L4 is C4

[plush echo]

really

mb

[crystal comet]

yeah

cuz level above C5 is senior

and no one gets senior RO lol

[plush echo]

fair

[spare echo]

Have Rbc oas been released yet for fall intern

[bold schooner]

Ye

[spare echo]

https://tenor.com/view/iwakura-lain-suicide-thinking-gun-gif-11659613

Gonna be my 5th rejected semester applying

crazy

[bold schooner]

I mean i got it for sde capital markets

Rest i got ghosted

[bold schooner]

For rbc?

Bank is so hit or miss

[spare echo]

oh I don’t think I applied for that

I applied for t&o mostly

[bold schooner]

What is t and o

Tech op?

[spare echo]

technology and operations

[bold schooner]

Kk

[rare shuttle]

both are too wordy

cut down

[narrow spade]

“I work as an underwater ceramic technician” ahh bullet point

[fallen mason]

Is the collaborated with cross functional teams part necessary

i saw it on some resumes

[real storm]

anyone going to this?

anyone hear back from palantir FDSE?

[magic ether]

hello canada

[brisk gate]

naw i get you. Happened to me with amazon and google

I know i did well

but here i am coping

[little apex]

What happened then?

[brisk gate]

zon could have had better behavioural

i guess

but i dont think it shouldve warranted a reject

[little apex]

Ahh I thought it was HC issue

I see

[brisk gate]

esp after waiting 38 days of emailing random emails + cold outreaching to linked in

[brisk gate]

it might as well have been

can never say for sure

but thats what i suspect (early fall before rto was mandated)

[dense crown]

how diff are the lc for amazon and google ng

is it just all lc hards?

[brisk gate]

rng

the more yoe you have the harder questions youll get

[dense crown]

i see

[brisk gate]

for amazon i got blind75

for google i got not really nc150

but some were similar

[little apex]

Between them which would you say was harder to do well in your experience?

[brisk gate]

my friend literally got lc easy for one for google

some people i heard literally a backtracking tetris question

[dense crown]

no way 😭

[brisk gate]

google but i did better on google imo

[dense crown]

apparently meta has been hiring ton of loo ng

maybe you could reach out to meta recruiter

[brisk gate]

meta interview process

[dense crown]

shop also pre easy to get from loo

[dense crown]

true 😭

[brisk gate]

dude shop is cursed

i didnt get an interview

[dense crown]

nah r u fr

[brisk gate]

but maybe its cause im a ng

[dense crown]

😭

they give out interviews like its candy

to loo

[brisk gate]

thats what im saying

[dense crown]

even for ng

[brisk gate]

surely it has to be since im ng

[dense crown]

apparently they r tryna get lot of loo ng to work at shop

[brisk gate]

where interview? 😭

[dense crown]

did you reach out to a recruiter

or jus cold apply

[brisk gate]

cold

[dense crown]

try reaching out to a recruiter

they will love hiring loo ng

[brisk gate]

i mean shouldnt they have filters for that 💀

[dense crown]

idk i think they do cold apps on rolling basis so ur app mightve been flooded out with all the other uni applicants

and the earlier loo applicants

[brisk gate]

hmmge

i got an automated email along with everyone else who wasnt rejected that profile was still being considered

i might just cold email to ask for timeline as a guise to get get them to give interview 😭

[dense crown]

lol

[brisk gate]

shop ft def sounds nice since its full remote

[dense crown]

btw where you have interned during ur time at loo

you could probably reach out and ask for ng ro

[brisk gate]

already have unfortunately

[dense crown]

yea

rip

were all ur internships big companies]

[brisk gate]

no

[dense crown]

ik someone who interned at splunk and reached out to get ng ro

from loo

[brisk gate]

splunk does hire new grads

i dont think any of the companies i worked for specifically hires new grads

[dense crown]

rip

[brisk gate]

or maybe they just havent in a while

im sure amd used to have ng postings

but havent seen one ever

[dense crown]

have you gotten ur resume reviewed btw

maybe that could be the issue? idk

acc probably not if you've already gotten interviews with zon and google

nvm

[brisk gate]

resume itself is fine (i think) but its the content

like i will pretty much never get a reachout for fullstack related roles

[dense crown]

amd converts all the uoft pey ppl into new grad