canada

[grave quest]

yea

[limpid wolf]

yea this is gonna be my first coop term

but im doing internship rn for fall

[grave quest]

solid shit, i think going back to back for internships is a good idea since you still have the stuff you learned from job 1 fresh in your mind

i used my first co-op to hop to another since all i've done is data engineering/software eng

[limpid wolf]

bro data eng is nice i wanna get into that im doing cloud rn and its not really for me lol

[grave quest]

it's hard since there's alot to learn like sql optimizing, data warehousing, data marts and a bunch of cool stuff but its a good challenge

data eng solutions are never the same so you're always building from what i've seen

[limpid wolf]

did u apply for amplify?

they had data eng and dev

cuz like in their inviitation for discover rbc they said they're gonna talk about w and s 2025

[grave quest]

i did, but they blacklisted my main email

[limpid wolf]

BRO SAME

[grave quest]

because I used those automated application extensions

and i did 40 apps in a day

[limpid wolf]

i thought it was only me

theres no way they actually tracked that

[wild flicker]

how do u know u got blacklisted

[grave quest]

every time I apply with a specific email, I get a help message to get tips to apply and I can never get past it on that email.

If I make my info same but swap to my other email it works fine

[wild flicker]

oh wow

[limpid wolf]

yea it was the exact same for me i really hope they dont blacklist my other email

or like figure out im the same person

[quartz ridge]

I will review ur resume ok?

Just on

[slender swan]

Been 10 days so me...

Nothing yet

Sb here said they waited 16 days

[west elbow]

same

when did you get oa

on the 10th?

[slender swan]

Yep

The 10th

[slender swan]

Hopefully next week?

[west elbow]

yea hopefully

cause seems like not many ppl have gotten phone yet

[slender swan]

Not sure how the Toronto office is

Heard that its pretty new?

[west elbow]

seems like a good place to work just hoping for an interview 😭

[robust lotus]

Good afternoon Canada

[magic cave]

😮‍💨

You made it out?

[solid flint]

What is the benefit of opening a chase bank account compared to the other us banks?

[magic cave]

You can do the free money hack

[worldly ridge]

is that after taxes

sucks to be poor ig, cest la vie

anyways bout to board my yacht

[broken whale]

https://tenor.com/view/takemymoney-leo-leonardo-dicaprio-gif-25074656

[worldly ridge]

views from mynyacht

[naive shell]

You in ithaca bro?

[small aurora]

Anyone heard back from wealthsimple?

[magic cave]

Icathia?

Icathia beckons?

[plucky ridge]

nothing simple about being wealthy brother, keep your head up! 🙏

[small aurora]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[cinder mango]

Morning to the people of the best country in the world

[slender swan]

Canada mentioned 🇨🇦🇨🇦🍁🍁

[naive shell]

Begone league player

[outer mortar]

i haven't hbu

[small aurora]

not me 😦 they closed postings tho

[magic cave]

Not as long as my visa still stands

[worldly ridge]

Im in Kabul

35k TC pre tax

[naive shell]

Dam they fixed it up
Middle east is finally prospering

[worldly ridge]

Yeah, we have good food here too

Time to leave Canada folks

PM me if you have questiond about Kabul

[worldly ridge]

Only seniors

A pic of Kabul

[bold sierra]

looks lit

u took that pic?

[quartz ridge]

70k tc

Is good?

Anyone know what is a good TC for a New Grad in Canada these days?

[odd saddle]

70k is liveable

Numbers seems so inflated cause of faang positions

[naive shell]

@chilly steeple can you fact check this?

[odd saddle]

Anyone get any updates from amazon’s ng roles?

[chilly steeple]

hey I'm with him rn

was on the phone when he took this pic so i wasn't in it

[wheat comet]

People supposed to be hearing back this week

[spice lance]

did anyone get technical yet?

[worldly ridge]

Do you need more proof?

[naive shell]

Fr?
Thanks bro

[worldly ridge]

Heres an another angle

[worldly ridge]

The mosque was lit

Artilery shells on buildings of Kabul

@bold sierra

[bold sierra]

wowww

im tryna go to kabul

[worldly ridge]

if you ignore the war torn infrastructure its pretty nice

Kabul on the touristy area and work centre

[bold sierra]

Is Kabul safe for tourist

Im pakistani btw

@worldly ridge

[worldly ridge]

Pakistan Zindabad!! Yes, Kabul is safe. I am not dead am I?

Kabul is advancing faster then Toronto

Look at its diverse infrastructure

If yall have any further questions. Please DM

[tender coral]

This has to be Malaysia or Indonesia no way that’s Kabul

[worldly ridge]

How come

[tender coral]

Why are they in Kabul 😭

[worldly ridge]

Idk why Im in Kabul too but Yolo

[chilly steeple]

this takes me back to my days in the GLA during the General Deathstrike era

[tender coral]

why did you change your reply?

[worldly ridge]

Because they werent from Indo or Malay 🥹

I didnt recognize the language, somewhere in SEA though

[tacit zenith]

does cold emailing work for wealthsimple

[supple quiver]

anyone get netflix oa as a canadian

[polar dune]

No

[polar dune]

Congrats on Netflix

[tough knot]

ye

I did not

[wheat comet]

leave some for us

[polar dune]

Fr like @tacit zenith u already chillin

[supple quiver]

no not me 💀

[wheat comet]

i swear shes in like 17 processes and has microsoft offer rn

[polar dune]

She does bro

[tacit zenith]

lmfaoo noooo 😭

[tough knot]

Wealthsimple didn’t reach out yet right

[tacit zenith]

i didn't get anything yet

[polar dune]

When do they reach out

[tough knot]

Prob early Oct

Or next week

[tacit zenith]

what's their hc?

[tough knot]

low for winter I think

[polar dune]

very low

not many teams that are hiring interns especially for SWE

[polar dune]

yea most likely next week

[tough knot]

I applied for data sci

[polar dune]

yea same with data sci

[tough knot]

Rip

Is reach out rng?

[polar dune]

I'd say it is

your name was js there at the right time and place

yea i remember them saying that cause i joined the info session thing

[tough knot]

okay thought so too

[grave quest]

wealthsimple reject with referral

cooked

[tough knot]

Shitty response?

[grave quest]

probably but I tried to write about being a customer and being interested in the fintech space myself

i didnt gpt it since i assumed they'd check against it

[fresh fog]

tbh it's kinda stupid to check with ai if something was or was not written by ai

so unreliable

[tough knot]

I keep the same response for all companies for the generic “Why us” question

[fresh fog]

if ur answer is generic enough for every company, idk if it's a good answer then

no but I failed the OA for python dev last friday

when's ur interview ?

for what team ?

python ?

damn

oh

me it's for ng

also some people said it could be auto

or that they screen after the oa

@safe light said that i think

[normal parcel]

congrats on the job

[crystal folio]

I got a WS offer and had to reject and said I can do it the subsequent semester and recruiter was ok with it, every semester I reach out I get ghosted then rejected after my email is viewed.

[lean prawn]

whats ws interview like

[polar dune]

How did u get a reject on Sunday whatttt

[ivory pond]

Is this for winter?

[spiral kelp]

Did DoorDash and pint alr give out oas for interns in Canada?

[polar dune]

Don’t think so

[spiral kelp]

Rly hope so I felt like kms for the past week or two bc I thought I didn’t get in

[polar dune]

Nah bro idk a single person in Canada that got the OA

So your chillin

[grave quest]

Not sunday, got mine Friday but didn't see it until now

[small aurora]

i did last year

failed python dev interview first round

i think you will move forward, last year they moved me and i was still missing like a couple cases for one of the question

[polar dune]

wtf that’s messed up 😭

[pastel fulcrum]

Last time I did it it wasnt auto OA and they had a threshold to pass into next stage

• it’s the same OA for everyone every year idk why they still do it

[pastel fulcrum]

Was talking about squarepoint

[normal parcel]

I dm'd thanks

[normal parcel]

Ik someone who interned door dash this summer

[hot rapids]

Dude you’re way too good for Wealthsimple LOL

[proven relic]

my life story was only 20 minutes long am I cooked

she didnt even ask about lfie story bro 💀

I mean there weren't any personal questions, they only asked about work stuff

[quartz ridge]

DM me if want SquarePoint interview help. Interviewed there but declined it for a position at Cohere.

If you want help on the interview for the low tier quant firm feel free to smash my DMs like a penguin like 👍

[worldly ridge]

I got into shopify after saying I grew up in Kabul, loved coding and now im here

With my yachts

Work hard and you will be succesfull like me padawan

@weak gazelle Feel me?

[weak gazelle]

Yes based

Congratulations on 350k TC remote job

and ur new yacht

[worldly ridge]

Thanks, congrats on your new startup on Karachi

May you uplift India

[barren galleon]

anyone do the Veeva behavioral interview before?

[proven relic]

so inspiring im gonna cry thanks man

[weak gazelle]

[tough knot]

yeah i got all of em

lmk if you want one

[spiral kelp]

U can find my body on the ground near cn tower tonight.

[crystal comet]

mine was kinda brief

but i was connecting w the recruiter pretty well

[river plinth]

ahh yes enrolled in a bachelors and completed a masters

[slender swan]

Which company is this ☠️☠️

[timid cipher]

hey, I gave the interview recently, feel free to dm

[outer mortar]

i got veeva behavioural td

[cold viper]

whats avg canada salary for 3yoe

[fresh fog]

like 62k

[proven relic]

Did you get offer?

[crystal comet]

going thru ref check rn

but i think as long as they don't sabotage ye

[proven relic]

congrats

how long after life story did you get an update

[crystal comet]

took tuesday got update friday

[proven relic]

guess I'll be stressed out all week

[crystal comet]

lmao fr

it gets better dw

[kind tundra]

so like they cant say u were a shitter and u good right

[crystal comet]

yeah from what i've heard it's more just confirming you're who you say you are

[kind tundra]

like bro worked here type shit

[crystal comet]

ye

[kind tundra]

time to wait til friday

[cold viper]

cad or usd no cap

[hybrid nest]

anyone interviewed at intact for full stack dev intern?

[distant hazel]

u heard back after oa?

[tough knot]

Intact is out?

Ive only seen 16 month postings

[ruby ridge]

They came out before these

[broken whale]

Are they big or sum?

[plucky ridge]

their dev team like 10 people i heard

[broken whale]

💀

[terse portal]

Has anyone heard back from RBC Borealis AI

[magic cave]

I thought @crystal comet was convicted

[crystal comet]

convicted of getting shopify offer maybe

[slender swan]

Anyone heard back from RBC Amplify?

[ivory pond]

Anyone heard back from rbc for t&o

Wtf💀

So Oct 8-12th?

[crystal comet]

i've heard 37

ill update when i get

[compact sapphire]

Hey any advice for Stripe OA?

[broken whale]

Intern or ng?

[compact sapphire]

intern

[broken whale]

It’s implementation heavy

From what I remember

2 yrs ago

[limpid wolf]

i failed it

it was like sys design for me

[broken whale]

Implementation heavy?

[limpid wolf]

yep

[compact sapphire]

I see

[broken whale]

Yeah cooked

[compact sapphire]

Will practice then

ty

[mellow anvil]

anyone do okta oa?

[polar dune]

congrats on Okta

@mellow anvil can i dm

[distant hazel]

damn they sent out alr?

[soft salmon]

has anyone done cap 1 ds intern interview?

[mellow anvil]

ya sure

[mellow anvil]

got it earlier td

prolly rolling

[compact zodiac]

they said no later than oct 11th for me

[mellow anvil]

4 swe internships but nothing big i had a referral though maybe that made a diff

[quartz ridge]

Wdym implementation heavy

Is it basically just

Implement a bunch of random functions

Or what

[limpid wolf]

for me it was like a very verbosely defined class with many functions that had a lot of depedencies and stuff

not really sure how to explain it well

it was kinda just a lot

or at least for me it was def a lot to do in the time given i felt but i also did not prepare at all

[quartz ridge]

Not leetcode style?

For NG

[vapid latch]

i thought stripe was like ood

[limpid wolf]

yea it is

[vapid latch]

ok

[limpid wolf]

this was for intern btw

idk about ng

[quartz ridge]

Wow

[lapis tide]

@quartz ridge congrats on cohere

[lunar estuary]

did cohere hire for summer 25 or was this for winter?

[leaden hinge]

Is it quite hard to get internships in Canada? I’m not too familiar

[quartz ridge]

Hey does anyone know how to find happiness? I feel eternal sadness right now

[crystal comet]

harder than the states

easier if you have US citizenship

otherwise yeah relatively hard

[leaden hinge]

Dangit

[crystal comet]

but still some if you look

[leaden hinge]

Where you from?

[crystal comet]

canada

[leaden hinge]

No US citizenship for me

[crystal comet]

💔

[leaden hinge]

Which province

[crystal comet]

ontario

[leaden hinge]

I’m from Windsor if you know it

[fresh fog]

how come ?

[crystal comet]

because you can get US jobs lol

[leaden hinge]

It’s a shame I’m 10 min drive from Michigan but no US citizenship

Yk Windsor yea

[crystal comet]

yeah

[fresh fog]

yeah so like not in canada

[crystal comet]

yes

[leaden hinge]

Have you had an internship before?

[crystal comet]

yes

[leaden hinge]

I’m trying to get my first one gotta work towards it and make projects and whatever need one for Summer 2025

[crystal comet]

one at a startup and one at rbc

rbc has a lot of spots and a fairly easy interview

[leaden hinge]

Sweet congrats I could only dream of getting in a big bank lol I wish

[crystal comet]

if you just grind lc and get a 600 (or otherwise good score) on their oa you should be able to get an interview

[leaden hinge]

I’m literally just starting out in CS lol I didn’t even know what an OA was until 2 weeks ago, but this is my 2nd degree

My CS program is only 16 months and this summer is the only time I can do an internship

So I got from now till then to make any project learn coding etc I only know really basic things

[leaden hinge]

So it’s the resume quality that gets you the OA is that right?

[fresh fog]

well if in quality you also include your college/degree/personal projects/skills/experience then pretty much

[leaden hinge]

Are you also from Canada?

Yeah I don’t have any projects yet I need to start

[fresh fog]

yeah most people in this channel are

[leaden hinge]

Fair enough lol

Have you had internships before?

[fresh fog]

yes

[leaden hinge]

Nice

[fresh fog]

i've been an intern in a stratup for over a year

[leaden hinge]

Oh gotcha

Do you get paid

[fresh fog]

i didn't do the multiple internships at bigger companies meta

[leaden hinge]

Ah

[fresh fog]

yeah lol but it's a intern salary so a bit under what you will get paid as a new grad

[leaden hinge]

Hey that’s still money

Nice

[fresh fog]

there isn't alot of unpaid internships in canada

[leaden hinge]

Also in school I imagine ?

[fresh fog]

yeah

[leaden hinge]

I got from now till summer time to get my only chance at an internship starting now from bsdially scratch lol

[fresh fog]

if it ur first semester ?

[leaden hinge]

Got no projects don’t know how to code really just starting gotta grind

My entire degree is only 5 semesters and this is my 2nd sem

[fresh fog]

oh weird

[leaden hinge]

The summer is gonna be online so I want to get an internship then while school

Yeah it’s a 2nd degree accelerated degree

Def not the usual path

[fresh fog]

ah I see

you got this

[leaden hinge]

Appreciate it

I’m just having a hard time understanding that at what point do you know enough of a language to be job ready etc

Yk what I mean

Like at what point you’re basically a programmer

[fresh fog]

yeah ur never job ready at a language tbh

most of what you do on the job, you will learn on the job from my experience

[leaden hinge]

Hmm so for example to get the first internship just how much coding should you know?

I hsve a Java course rn introductory and a DSA course

I’m hoping by the end of the semester I should have enough knowledge

[fresh fog]

and for this, I would say you'll never really know you're a programmer. there's constantly something you can learn, something you don't know, ...

[leaden hinge]

Atleast to be somewhat proficient

Yeah fair enough, always things to learn and improve on

[fresh fog]

well it's really company specific tbh. some would require some web dev class, other could ask for other stuff

[leaden hinge]

Once you know one language the rest kinda come really easily and fast yea

[fresh fog]

hmm not really

[leaden hinge]

That’s why I’m hoping by the end of this term snd the end of this Java course I’m good at it

Well atleast like the fundamentals yk what I mean loops methods etc are the same idea

[fresh fog]

yeah sure. but this is very very beginning of "knowing a language" tbh

[fresh fog]

I would say if you want to get good at coding fast, find something that interests you and try learning about it/making personnal project related to it

takes a lot of personnal motivation/dedication but it's the easiest path

[leaden hinge]

I’m cooked 😭💀yea I’m really just starting off I don’t even know if I can learn enough coding in like 6 months to be able to get my first internship

End of Next fall I’ll be out of school so the summer is literally my only chance at an internship

[leaden hinge]

Yeah I really need to do that

[fresh fog]

dw they won't expect much from an intern for who it's their first internship.
at my job, some first time intern spend an entire month/month and a half learning the tech stack as well as going thru documentation

if you can do better than that tho, it will def give you an advantage over them

[leaden hinge]

Yeah gotcha

Im just struggling with being overwhelmed by just starting off in this field if yk what I mean

Like what to learn , how much is enough, etc all the unknowns because I don’t know enough yet

But you’d just suggest again start with projects ?

Even really simple things like tic tac toe, calculator program etc then get up to the more harder things?

And would you say that’s enough time? From now until when it comes time to apply for and land a summer 25 internship role. For me to learn basically from the beginning to atleast knowing enough to get the job

[fresh fog]

hmm i'd say it's will be very complicated. it's VERY competitive right now and you're going to be competing with people who are on their last year of uni and have multiple previous internships.
also, it will depend how much of your own time you can put into getting better. because if you don't spend X amount of hours a week working on personal projects, X amount of hours a week working on DSA/leetcode, someone else will. Also depend on what internship you want, unless you want something in big tech, you might not need much DSA/leetcode at all

[leaden hinge]

Honestly for this summer I just want any internship lol even a smaller company I’d be over the moon like biggest I’m talking is a bank I’d be ecstatic

[fresh fog]

i see

[leaden hinge]

Big tech eventually but I know it may be take me longer maybe a few years out of school etc and some YOE

[fresh fog]

even then it might be harder

[leaden hinge]

Yeah uphill for me either way

[fresh fog]

but whatever happen, don't get discouraged, you might have to apply to hundreds of jobs to even get a single interview

some say you should focus on quality instead of quantity but i'm not sure about that

[leaden hinge]

Really seems like a numbers game but I’m sure there’s a balance

[fresh fog]

anyways, the first time I tried to get an internship (during my 2nd year), I wasn't able to find one. but then I just looked harder the second time and was able to find one

[leaden hinge]

Like for example the jobs that ask for a cover letter I’m sure most people don’t do that. But if you do it is it worth it would it make you stand out, would it be worth having gpt make one for you not sure

[fresh fog]

yeah exactly

[leaden hinge]

Yea makes sense

For someone like me starting off would you just suggest projects with incremental difficulty ?

[fresh fog]

hmm not sure about cover letters tbh

[woven trench]

has anyone done shopify life story

[fresh fog]

idrk tbh, I would just try to find something that interest you

[leaden hinge]

And work up towards that as a project ? Learn along the way yea

[fresh fog]

yeah and try not to spend too much time on "tutorials"

[leaden hinge]

Best would be just do it yourself and when you’re stuck ask ChatGPT yeah

[fresh fog]

hmm no

[leaden hinge]

Not to solve it but for hints and what not

[fresh fog]

wouldn't ask chatgpt either tbh lol

well

it's personal preference

[leaden hinge]

Fair

[fresh fog]

I find that spending time going thru forums and blog post to figure how to get something to work makes you remember it better than just askin AI for the answer

but used properly why not

[leaden hinge]

Also btw I had a question about big tech? The way I’m looking at it, I’m not in any rush or race to get into it even if it takes 5+ years , is that fine yea? Should there be a rush to try to get in asap as early in your career or is it fine not to and you can still get in later

[leaden hinge]

Yeah gotchu

[fresh fog]

well, the way I see it, the earlier you break into big tech, the easier it is. Getting in let's say amazon as an intern is way easier than getting into amazon as an intermediate software engineer

however it's never too late

it's just easier early on

[leaden hinge]

Yeah I’d probably have to work up to big tech later on then

But when there’s a will there’s a way, there’s always room at the top

Just gotta work harder and want it more than others

Way easier said than done lol

[fresh fog]

nah you got this man

[leaden hinge]

Appreciate it bro thanks for your help

[fresh fog]

np

[river plinth]

what have we come to..

[spiral kelp]

Volunteer work is new meta for unpaid internship

[mint gorge]

They gonna call authorities on you

[crystal comet]

wtf 💀

negative paid internship

[misty sapphire]

does google ask tagged questions at all or is it always custom

[mint gorge]

Congrats on Google

[river plinth]

no shot this was bluewaves too #canada message

If you want help on the interview for

[limber drum]

Does veeva have no OA?

Okok thx

[spice lance]

Anyone got super.com interview experience?

[next rain]

yap

[misty sapphire]

Trying to create a group chat for google early career interview prep, hmu react to this message

[lapis tide]

congrats on google

[broken whale]

Down

[mellow anvil]

anyone done dayforce interview before?

[spiral kelp]

What does this mean:

[zinc knot]

Auto

everyone i know got

[mellow anvil]

i think oa is auto

[polar dune]

Bros getting all the OA/interviews

Save some for me man

[noble field]

I don’t think hubspot oa is auto I’ve seen a few rejected before oa

[zinc knot]

Looks auto this year

[tender coral]

With the way its set up it doesn’t seem to be auto

[slender swan]

HubSpot isnt auto

[dark wren]

yea it’s not auto, ik ppl who got direct rej

[azure junco]

It means HubSpot would like to move forward with your application for Software Engineering Intern + Co-op, Canada.

[spiral kelp]

I hate u 💀

[arctic token]

Did anyone get that hub spot email for new grad too

[raw ocean]

it means you're getting oa

[kind tundra]

how long to get the oa tho

[spiral kelp]

I didn’t get the OA and it’s alr been almost 2 hrs 😢

[leaden hinge]

how do i get my first internship 😭

[turbid crater]

I didn’t

Im really cooked 😂😂

[leaden hinge]

What companies have you guys had internships for in the past?

[spiral kelp]

Startups or poop Canada banks

[leaden hinge]

do the big banks hire easily 😿

[lost lark]

Lolwtf

[spiral kelp]

Yeah they hire pr easily not like us banks

[leaden hinge]

damn ok good to know

have you had some internships yourself? where at

@spiral kelp

[spiral kelp]

I don wanna expose myself

[leaden hinge]

np np

[spiral kelp]

I had first at startup and my current second one at a boomer company

[leaden hinge]

is it like a kinda well known company

im new to all this lol just trying to figure things out and idk how things are here in canada

[spiral kelp]

No one knows the startup and I’m pr sure they going bankrupt they laid off all staff engineers 💀

[leaden hinge]

yikes

how about the boomer company lol

thats atleast solid?

[spiral kelp]

For my second one I would say tech ppl knows not like my mom tho

[leaden hinge]

nice nice

ontario?

[spiral kelp]

Yeah it have to be

Internship outside of Ontario/VA is a myth

[leaden hinge]

Oh

would you say youre good at like LC and makign projects and what not?

[spiral kelp]

Not LC man some graph/dp q hard asl

For projects I need more variety and not CRUD

[zinc knot]

When did you apply to hubspot

[spiral kelp]

I’m a noob like u bro u should ask some gods in this page

[leaden hinge]

who would you say lol

[spiral kelp]

I forgor 💀

[spiral kelp]

I think yesterday?

[leaden hinge]

@spiral kelp who are the pros here in this chat do yk

that have got like bigger internships here in canada or smth

[spiral kelp]

Ppl who say they worked at big companies or rly mean

[leaden hinge]

huh

oh

[spiral kelp]

There’s like 10+ ppl who said they worked at faang level companies talking here daily just dm them

[leaden hinge]

bet

[leaden hinge]

is it cool if i dm you and ask a few questions just about what youd suggest for me since im just starting out

[spiral kelp]

Build crud apps then non crud apps with diff languages/frameworks

[leaden hinge]

i barely know how to code 😭

and i mean barely

[spiral kelp]

Don’t just use mean/mean that’s noob bait use c++ or Java no company hires mern

[spiral kelp]

Bro no offense then u should learn intro to programming then ask questions

Like u shouldn’t worry ab getting jobs when ur just starting out

[leaden hinge]

yeah like this summer is the only time ill be able to apply for an internship, so i got from now till then to get myself ready yk proejcts and what not

im in a Java and DSA course in school im hoping by the end of the term hopefully im decent enough with Java

but like i got nothing on my github havent made anything yet

do you think i could still maybe get an internship like even at one of the banks? for the summer if i start adding projects or smth to the github how important is that

just trynna figure things out

[spiral kelp]

U need sum on gh before applying

[zinc knot]

we are alive on the west coast bro chyll

[spiral kelp]

Put some school projects that r kinda complex on there

[spiral kelp]

Not Vancouver?

[turbid crater]

Yesterday

[zinc knot]

go learn how to build shit bruh 💀 what are you doing on cscd

[spiral kelp]

No way bc I was from west

[leaden hinge]

yeah ik man im just moreso here trying to get advice on how i can best prepare myself to get an internship for Summer 2025 starting as a noob from now till then

[zinc knot]

Yeah calgary has somewhat alr companies too

[zinc knot]

grind

[spiral kelp]

Build a todo app with springboot and react

[zinc knot]

go build projects

Do lc

dont build a fucking todo app

[spiral kelp]

Not even lc mainly for big tech companies

[leaden hinge]

i want even like one of the canadian banks

[spiral kelp]

If ur applying to freaking TD no lc req

[zinc knot]

TD 💀

[leaden hinge]

id be over the moon with TD lmao

[zinc knot]

Bro will hate swe as a career working at a bank

[leaden hinge]

y

[zinc knot]

redundant work, boring tech stack, incredibly corporate practices

aim high

[spiral kelp]

I got a warning bc I typed the r word

[turbid crater]

No excitement in life and super Slow for anything

[leaden hinge]

my entire degree is only 5 semesters its an accelerated degree (a 2nd degree in CS) and my onl semester i can do an internship is the Summer because all my courses would be online

or else i graduate with no internships

[spiral kelp]

Banks r ok for start

[leaden hinge]

1 internship would be better than nothing

thats why id be really happy even with a bank

but yeah i just need to figure shit out like what to learn rn etc

[spiral kelp]

I swear google and Microsoft at Calgary is nvr hiring

[turbid crater]

They have offices there ?

Damn Calgary is really coming up man

[leaden hinge]

W

[spiral kelp]

Where tf is my hubspot OA man

Y would u send an email with that msg if it’s for applying

[raw ocean]

intuit exploded their alberta offices right

[magic cave]

Yeah

[raw ocean]

gg

[magic cave]

It's over for Calgarians

[zinc knot]

yeah its over

Intuit was in Edmonton

[magic cave]

You get homeless people renting office space for $600 a month

[zinc knot]

Not calgary

[spiral kelp]

If it’s not ON/Vancouver/MTL it’s over

[zinc knot]

My shitter uni is now joever

[raw ocean]

are you uofa

[magic cave]

Are you UofC or A

[zinc knot]

UAlberta -> Intuit pipeline is dead

Yeah

[raw ocean]

GG

[zinc knot]

But im still fine

[raw ocean]

also rip deepmind uofa

[spiral kelp]

Intuit is rly good too

[zinc knot]

Yeah deepmind also got nuked

also a bit more corporate than i’d like

i’d wanna go to places with a heavy emphasis on engineering culture

[spiral kelp]

Work at like sentry then

[zinc knot]

Like my internship rn

[magic cave]

I feel like you won't find that anywhere in Alberta

Intuit Edmonton was just HR

[zinc knot]

My current work is literally building their product technically

Kekw

[zinc knot]

Yeah i’m in Vancouver rn lmao

[spiral kelp]

Wasn’t Calgary tryna turn into tech city?

[zinc knot]

My first internship was based outta toronto (remote)

now my second is van

Third hopefully also remote

I’m never going back to working at garbage companies

I stopped applying to shit like rbc and scotia

Not worth my time

[raw ocean]

getting paid actual money is liberating

[spiral kelp]

Beggars can’t be choosers man

[zinc knot]

grind your skills out to the point that you aren’t a beggar

[spiral kelp]

I honestly apply to rbc just so I can do their codeskgnal

[zinc knot]

The defeatist mentality is incredibly prevalent here

[leaden hinge]

@zinc knot have you worked at big banks?

or faang

[zinc knot]

My goat @glad echo will tell yall why you are wrong

No banks

mid sized tech company and a well known tech(ish)

[leaden hinge]

btw i DMd if u got a sec ever

[weak gazelle]

Guys

There’s lots of qualified people out there

There may be 100000 qualified people for google but they can only hire 1000

Or there could be 100000 qualified ppl for elite companies but elite companies in total can only hire 1000

That mean 99000 are qualified but gotta still work at non-elite companies

That’s just how it is

[spice lance]

anyone hear back from ws yet?

[magic cave]

😮‍💨

[weak gazelle]

Point is

[magic cave]

faang or bust

[weak gazelle]

Sure if that’s what you wanna do

Like you can also say

You’re either gonna work at faang or not at all

[magic cave]

That's the plan

[weak gazelle]

But that’s not smart at all because u wouldn’t get to work at faang later on either, if you don’t end up with just any job u can get rn

So faang or bust is dumb

@magic cave

[magic cave]

Just reset the save file

and try again next time

[weak gazelle]

Wym

Wouldn’t u rather have a shot at faang later on than not at all
U need work exp for that, so u gotta take what u get

Not everyone is like @glad echo who gets 3x faang with 0 prev faang experience

But that’s cuz he’s cracked asf (IOI medallist)

[hot rapids]

I’m in a short second degree too, you have to just learn a lot in your own in the first 4 months.

[hot rapids]

Make a lot of projects, do leetcode every day

[leaden hinge]

are you in UBC?

[hot rapids]

Outside of your courses

[hot rapids]

Yes

[leaden hinge]

cool

im from Windsor if youve heard of that

[hot rapids]

I got my first internship 4 months into learning coding

You have to actually grinddddd

[hot rapids]

Yep I’ve heard of it

[magic cave]

Is that the ski town

[zinc knot]

@hot rapids did you secure your ng return

[weak gazelle]

Yea guys tips pls need to get my first internship

[magic cave]

You have to apply for the job to get in

[hot rapids]

Idk yet, end of month :P

[zinc knot]

Cloudeng misses you from what i heard

[leaden hinge]

can i DM @hot rapids my questions

[zinc knot]

im on forge rn

kekw

[leaden hinge]

im so cooked

[hot rapids]

Just ask them here homie, other ppl can help answer and benefit from them

[hot rapids]

Oh cooool, has RO situation got better? :o

[weak gazelle]

Melona doesn’t like u very much

[zinc knot]

They been hiring fts like crazy but no conversions from what i’ve seen

[weak gazelle]

Jk

[leaden hinge]

D:

[zinc knot]

Bro the recent round of layoffs

[leaden hinge]

all good

[zinc knot]

All canadian recruiters are gone

💀💀💀

Andreanne and Christina both

18 interns in my summer cohort btw, 6 this fall

[hot rapids]

Yeah I saw that, cooked

[leaden hinge]

@hot rapids what projects should i have on my github by the time i should be applying and hopefully am able to get a summer 2025 internship (my first one), starting from basically nothing

[hot rapids]

Msft kicked the crash bandicoot studio too 😭

[leaden hinge]

ik i dont have much time not sure if i can even do it

[zinc knot]

yeah 💀

[magic cave]

Are you guys first years 😳

[zinc knot]

shits been crazy

no DW impact tho

thankfully

[hot rapids]

Learn some AWS, do a full stack crud app with a db, get familiar with some infra tooling

[magic cave]

Me too

[zinc knot]

I’m in grade 5

Chat am i cooked

[magic cave]

I go to Richmond Hill High School

Wbu @weak gazelle

[hot rapids]

You should aim to have 3-4 projects on your resume if you have no experience. Look to join some design teams, do some hackathons, get involved with CS clubs

[zinc knot]

Wait what

How long is your intern lol

Wasnt it may - aug

[hot rapids]

Oh I ended alr, but they let you know later

[zinc knot]

Ohhh

Makes sense

Fingers crossed bro good luck

u got this

[hot rapids]

Yeah that will be a lot of weight off the shoulders, but I’m already just mentally planning for it to be a no

[leaden hinge]

are there any internships for the summer that are generally not as competitive lol idk how competitive banks are ? or other things that people may not really apply to?

but still kinda known

[hot rapids]

Look into fellowships. MLH fellowship, Google summer of code

[azure junco]

Wtf no way me too

[spiral kelp]

Apply to Canadian banks there’s like 100+ positions for rbc

[weak gazelle]

Lol yea im a sophomore in high school

[magic cave]

Bro is lying

[leaden hinge]

SWE summer25?

[azure junco]

was gonna say startups, but with this requirement no

[spiral kelp]

Not summer

[magic cave]

You said u were at Mozilla

[weak gazelle]

? Wym lol im in 9th grade rn

[leaden hinge]

my onlt option would be summer 2025 internships

[magic cave]

Which only hires from Conestonga College

[weak gazelle]

Yea im cracked so they took me

[magic cave]

So you must be from Conestonga

[weak gazelle]

That was in 8th grade

[ivory pond]

Winter for rbc is already kinda over

[weak gazelle]

That’s my dream college how u know

[ivory pond]

They did interviews last week

Or week before

[leaden hinge]

for startups would you find them from websites like indeed or smth or you gotta find them yourself

[hot rapids]

Angel list, ycombinator website

[azure junco]

linkedin and google searching greenhouse or smartrecruiters postings

[leaden hinge]

generally when do you apply for Summer internships?

[weak gazelle]

I wanna do a diploma in computer science engineering from Conestoga college Brampton campus

[azure junco]

now until April

[ivory pond]

In Canada around December

For anywhere else u should’ve started end of august

[azure junco]

I want to go to Alpha Canada College for a degree in IT Computer Science

[weak gazelle]

Waowwww

[zinc knot]

what team were you on? Also why would it be a no, i’m sure it’ll be fine

[leaden hinge]

dangit man so i got from now till december to teach myself coding and know enough to make projects

[zinc knot]

Trust in the process brother

[hot rapids]

Security team, doing distributed sys and big data processing

[azure junco]

No you need to start applying now

[leaden hinge]

i cant code for shit i dont have any projects made either

rip

[weak gazelle]

@ faang?

[hot rapids]

You gotta just learn man

Like start now

[ivory pond]

Are u first year?

[hot rapids]

You can learn Python in a week

[weak gazelle]

You can learn C in a couple of hours

[leaden hinge]

deadass?

[spiral kelp]

Y would u learn c just learn c++ unless u wanna do hft

[weak gazelle]

Hey im just in 9th grade

Stop being mean to me

Or i will tell on u

[hot rapids]

Faster than me

[leaden hinge]

im in an accelertated program only 4 semesters left including the current one, summer 2025 is only time i can do an internship bc all courses online

[hot rapids]

Yall memeing but there’s this kid in Hs who’s on 4th year CS classes at SFU 😭

[ivory pond]

That sounds cooked

[leaden hinge]

so uh what should i be able to do or make a CRUD application? and teach myself that in like 1-2 months? from start to that

i just need like a bit of a roadmap

[hot rapids]

There’s a website with a roadmap

Let me see

[leaden hinge]

that website confused me more

☠️

[hot rapids]

https://roadmap.sh/

[magic cave]

You kind of diminished it by saying SFU

[azure junco]

bro just find a problem you face day to day and write something in whatever language you want to fix it

[magic cave]

Maybe if it was Dawson I'd be impressed. .

[azure junco]

don't over think it

[leaden hinge]

dawg i can barely make a for loop atm

💀

[azure junco]

ok when you have an end goal it's a lot easier to learn

[leaden hinge]

thats why i need a bit of a roadmap or goal

[weak gazelle]

Best wealth generation strat

[leaden hinge]

@azure junco so end goal of a CRUD app is that good?

[hot rapids]

https://roadmap.sh/devops

[leaden hinge]

and just have at it?

[hot rapids]

Click the Python node

And use the resources to learn Python

[leaden hinge]

im so cooked i dont even know what devops is

[weak gazelle]

Have 20-30 kids -> make them all grind math/CS -> chances of one of them being unicorn founder increases

[azure junco]

Sure

For a first project

[weak gazelle]

Literally ez af

[leaden hinge]

i have a Java and DSA course rn also in Java so ig i should just do java then yea @hot rapids

[azure junco]

If 90% of startups fail and you have 30 kids, you will have 3 successful startups

[leaden hinge]

i just had my first lab on a stack implementation on an array

i understand all that

[weak gazelle]

Fax

[leaden hinge]

push pop, bracket matching etc

[river plinth]

uni?

[leaden hinge]

Yea

[hot rapids]

You gotta go ahead of your class I feel

[leaden hinge]

I agree

[hot rapids]

If you stay on pace with your classes you will be too late

[azure junco]

bro what degree are you in that lets you graduate in 2 years

[leaden hinge]

Yeah because again Summer 2025 is my only 1 shot at an internship

[azure junco]

are you getting an associate's degree

[leaden hinge]

i garduate Decembet 2025

[hot rapids]

There’s lots of Java resources online, you can defs find some

[leaden hinge]

Bachelors of CS Honours

[hot rapids]

There’s second degree programs in Canada

20 months for a full bachelors if you already have a degree

[leaden hinge]

this is my 2nd degree my main major is Civil Engingeering i just finished that last month

bridges are cool and everything but id rather stare at stacks of money 💀

[hot rapids]

Damn bruh

[leaden hinge]

at this rate im not getting any money tho

🤣

[azure junco]

ohhhhhh ok I see

[leaden hinge]

Civil eng is nice but yea you cant ever make big money

[azure junco]

Bro I'm ngl you picked the wrong field for money

[leaden hinge]

yeah lol

[azure junco]

my tc is only 65k and 57k of that is in equity in a series a startup

[magic cave]

It's okay CS is the same

[leaden hinge]

wait u mean CS or CE

[azure junco]

CS

[leaden hinge]

🤣

CS will always make more than CE

[weak gazelle]

Based

[magic cave]

i've been unemployed for 33 months now

[weak gazelle]

But ngl @leaden hinge civil eng prob pays more than CS in canda

[leaden hinge]

in hindsight i shouldve done electrical engineering would be better than civil but oh well

[ivory pond]

Congrats

[river plinth]

every day is a new record

[weak gazelle]

I don’t know how much civil eng pays but I’ve seen some of my civil eng friends make pretty good money in their co-ops

[leaden hinge]

The huge issue with civil is your pay is limited by YOE , you need 10+ years for 100k CAD

you are not as limited by YOE in CS

in comparison

[magic cave]

https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/s/7viA3r02J5

[azure junco]

Right because regardless of yoe you make 0tc in Canada

We are all unemployed

[leaden hinge]

@weak gazelle my city borders detroit i wanna work in michigan anyway as a civil eng or cs

[leaden hinge]

lol

[azure junco]

Congrats on whitby

Sorry windsor

[weak gazelle]

R u American

[leaden hinge]

yee

nooo

Canadian citizen

[magic cave]

Sarnia?

[leaden hinge]

Windsor

my buddy is from Sarnia

[weak gazelle]

Windsor

[leaden hinge]

he just got a civil eng job there his hometown

[magic cave]

It's over for him

[weak gazelle]

Oh yea

[leaden hinge]

hes in civil eng

he just graduated civil like me last month hes from Sarnia is making 58.5k CAD

[magic cave]

Oh I thought you were saying Whistler

[azure junco]

why not just become an electrical engineer and go build cars or something

[magic cave]

60k is good in Sarnia

[weak gazelle]

[leaden hinge]

Yeah COL is nothing

[azure junco]

if you are already in Detroit

[leaden hinge]

and hes living at home so its nice

[magic cave]

he must have 5 wives

[weak gazelle]

Yea

[leaden hinge]

worst case i just go work as a civil eng in Michigan, drive over everyday get minimum 60k USD which converts to 80k CAD which is extremely nice starting off 0YOE in Civil

[weak gazelle]

Thing is would u rather have a shot at avg salary but high chances of getting a job or high salary and low chances of getting a job

[leaden hinge]

ik 80k doesnt seem like a lot cuz its not in CS

but 80k for Civil is fucking amazing

[magic cave]

Bro is a hater

[weak gazelle]

Waz

That’s literally CS lmfao Wym

[magic cave]

Trying to get the uni kids to move out of the way for when we graduate high school

[leaden hinge]

Exactly

[weak gazelle]

[leaden hinge]

lower pay but job security

or higher earning potential +volatility

[river plinth]

tryna remove the competition

[azure junco]

???? 80k is pretty good for a new grad in Canada

Even in Toronto with high col

[leaden hinge]

yeah the currency exchanges works nicely

with USD being higher than CAD

[azure junco]

Bro did you get all of your info from Frank on tiktok about cs

[azure junco]

No I mean 80k is good for cs

[hot rapids]

@leaden hinge if you’re learning Java anyways and want to commit to that, look into making a full stack app with Spring Boot.

[leaden hinge]

nah from the people who make 90k and complain they arent in faang making 120k+ or whatever as a new grad

atleast before the bubble burst

now its a race to unemployment

in cs

[leaden hinge]

Ok gotcha thank you

[hot rapids]

Imo you should just follow the road map. The roadmap website has nodes that you can click into with resources to the foundational skills

[leaden hinge]

is it normal for everything to be hard and confusing at the start or am i just dumb

like we have to do a start pattern and thats kinda tricky for me rn

star

asterick

yk

[hot rapids]

If you’re confused on what something means, or what it does, you gotta just figure it out by researching

Leverage GPT and make it explain it to you in simple terms

Just start at the beginning of the full stack road map imo

[leaden hinge]

the devops one u sent?

[hot rapids]

No I only sent the devops one to show the Python resources

[leaden hinge]

Oh my bad

[hot rapids]

Full stack one for breadth of skill: https://roadmap.sh/full-stack

[river plinth]

any1 have an experience with frontend technical interviews? should i be expecting leetcode? the OA was react...

[leaden hinge]

so i gotta get to atleast here then start applying for summer 2025 internships u think?

have atleast a CRUD app on the github

hope its not too too hard to get a big bank internship :/

[hot rapids]

That’s probably the minimum, since you need a few projects on your resume

[leaden hinge]

id be so happy with that

[hot rapids]

Idk, I’ve never passed a bank screen so can’t say how easy it is

[leaden hinge]

its either i get 1 internship and graduate or 0 lol so ill take anything

[river plinth]

def get an internship before graduating

no exp = doom

[leaden hinge]

@hot rapids probably would be smart for me to go anywhere in Canada for the internship yea? my classes would be online anyway

[hot rapids]

Depends on company, the recruiter should tell you roughly the format?

[leaden hinge]

even if rent and all my expenses basically leave me with no pay

[river plinth]

my recruiter has ignored my email twice and just resent the same email...

[leaden hinge]

yup its just hard since im just starting out lol

[river plinth]

numbers game, you can get a CRUD app going very quickly with so many tutorials out there and chat gpt heling you with the concepts

[leaden hinge]

ok ideally what projects should i have on the github from now till december

[river plinth]

i swear its like recruiters switch off their brain

[leaden hinge]

then i gotta apply

[cold viper]

Todo app

[leaden hinge]

Ok

Todo

CRUD?

i need to give myself a target

have x done by y

any thing else

[river plinth]

Todo can be done with CRUD but you can always find something more interesting that is more in line with your hobbies or interests

makes it easier to talk about it in interviews

[leaden hinge]

@hot rapids sorry im a bit confused with the website roadmap u sent because it says JS not Java here

@cold viper what other projects would u say @river plinth

at bare minimum

do i need like a nflx clone or some shit

twitter

[cursive nymph]

Any capital one OA receivers new grad

?

Data anlyst

[hot rapids]

I don’t know if there’s a road map for a Java full stack project on there, but I just sent the full stack one since it’s the most versatile for most jobs

[cursive nymph]

Dm me

[hot rapids]

You still need to learn the JavaScript stuff to make the app

[river plinth]

quick google search or ask chat and you'll have tons of ideasa

[leaden hinge]

this is my Java and DSA textbook do u think i should follow this or jump into projects? this has end of chapter practice problems yk for each chaptert

[hot rapids]

Jump into projects imo

You won’t get any interviews without projects

[river plinth]

^

[leaden hinge]

do u think i should jump into like the todo thing now and just bash my head back and forth with gpt and guides until it makes sense or start with easy projects

[hot rapids]

You need to learn JavaScript no matter what

[leaden hinge]

yep gotcha

[hot rapids]

To make those crud apps

[leaden hinge]

i think i need to get some profiency with Java first which aligns with my classes too

and then JS thats good yea?

cuz i have an introductory java course rn so i should get good at java lol

[hot rapids]

Yeah but that’s too slow? If you’re waiting for Java proficiency from your class first

You’re losing weeks

When you could be learning the front end parts now

[leaden hinge]

wait you think i should learn JS rn on my own time?

[hot rapids]

You need Java for the backend, JavaScript for the front end

[spiral kelp]

I literally told u to use react and springboot

[hot rapids]

Yes, you have to learn most things yourself

[leaden hinge]

i was thinking learn Java more on my own time too so im ahead no?

[hot rapids]

School doesn’t teach you these things

[leaden hinge]

sorry im lost af rn im kinda cooked

[spiral kelp]

School lowkey useless

[hot rapids]

React = JavaScript, spring boot = Java

[leaden hinge]

@hot rapids uh ok if this was you what do i dive into like RN RN

[spiral kelp]

School only teaches u cs theory which is technically cs but useless for job

[hot rapids]

Yes, I would start with the full stack road map

[leaden hinge]

im wasting so much time figuring out what i should be doing etc

i really just need to start somewhere but idk what to do

ok ill look at the roadmap

idk anyone

[spiral kelp]

Learn JS then learn react then learn springboot

[hot rapids]

Just do both, learn ahead in your Java class, learn the full stack road map (which starts with front end)

[leaden hinge]

and just go along with the Java pace with my school classes ?

o

[spiral kelp]

Then make a crud app with a utube tutorial or sum

Bro we told u to go ahead of school

[leaden hinge]

tell me 3 solid projects to maximize my chances of getting my first and only potential internship in summer

yall are goated for helping out

yeah ik hes goated

[spiral kelp]

Make a new LLM

[leaden hinge]

wtf

bruh

[spiral kelp]

Develop a core OS for enterprise business

[leaden hinge]

ummm

i cant make a proper for loop

i aient doing that tf

[spiral kelp]

Make a distributed VPN system with good security

[leaden hinge]

ummmmm

[spiral kelp]

I gave u god tier project ideas

[hot rapids]

Dude you coulda learned loop in the past ten mins 💀

Stop using that as an excuse

[leaden hinge]

i kinda know loops but like its tricky yk

many different sceanrios

[river plinth]

lmao

[spiral kelp]

Go learn cs fundamentals before asking

[hot rapids]

You gotta just start doing stuff

[leaden hinge]

Yesyes

[cold viper]

GET OUT
(tiktok sound)

[spiral kelp]

Go learn up to oop then come back

[azure junco]

write a basic compiler

[spiral kelp]

Sometimes in life I’m too competitive

[azure junco]

andre reference???

i miss andre

[leaden hinge]

classes and constructors and objects are giving me a headache

especialyl constructors

🤣

[spiral kelp]

Make a gcc clone

[cold viper]

open your notebooks buddy

[spiral kelp]

Ur cooked rn if this the case

[leaden hinge]

bro the prof hasnt even taught OOP yet we are getting to that soon

[cold viper]

learn the fundamentals

[spiral kelp]

No constructor = no passing yr 2

[river plinth]

if OOP is fked wait for c++

[spiral kelp]

I wish my school taught me c++

[leaden hinge]

like when he taught scanner ; Scanner scanner = new Scanner(System.in); he said just memorize it we will get to classes and shit later

[river plinth]

fk that language

[spiral kelp]

They teach c so dumb

[leaden hinge]

sounds about right

[spiral kelp]

More jobs

[cold viper]

memorize code

[river plinth]

c c++ all of it dumb

[leaden hinge]

he said memorize or understand

either or

🤣

[azure junco]

brother told the class to memorize a piece of code with no explanation

[leaden hinge]

Yeah cuz if he taught OOP stuff rn we would drop the course

[spiral kelp]

Plz learn cs fundamentals like if statements loops functions recursion classes

[river plinth]

what uni is this lmao

[spiral kelp]

Learn OOP

[leaden hinge]

if mf brings up scary words like Encapsulation or Polymorphism

[spiral kelp]

Then come back

[leaden hinge]

chill

[spiral kelp]

That’s literally OOP

[leaden hinge]

yea we arent on that yet

maybe in a week or 2

[spiral kelp]

It’s uni of windsor prob

[leaden hinge]

yea it is

[spiral kelp]

It’s a dipola mill

[azure junco]

is it a public uni