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What is the salary difference and position?
Depends on startup
But Interac is generally the same tier as Geotab or Art Wolf
If itβs a good startup u May like it
More.

Stop mockingβ¦.. itβs serious tiring. Job market is bad enough you add salt on wound with suffocation
can I add some spice? 
I would rank Arctic Wolf higher than both
any queries?
Ok this makes sense but I would say Geotab and Interac are similar calibre
Yea
What about gaotek?
intern and new grad don't care about referrals
relatable
higher
highest
Thanking π
lol
anyone here waitlisted for amazon summer 2024?
has anyone gotten rejected for amazon sde intern summer 2024
do u get an email or does the status change
status change afaik
Does it come fast
ive been application submitted for shit i applied for in sep 2023
congrats
I have been under consideration since oct 23
Did they email you?
has anyone heard back from Telus GTLP after the video project step?
is this enough for unpaid internship
Morning Candada
Canadians
π¨π¦
π¨π¦ π
morning
i dont get lifers
actually wait now that i'm like burnt out of job search
perhaps i will be a lifer too
lifers are the happiest
If you are a good enuf swe + good mgr
With decent progression
Its not bad
Like a swe is already making really good money
@vivid fiber can i dm? need some advice
Just ask here
bro it's confidential about my offer

Idk u like dat
I wouldn't trust me
just ask here
You can trust me bro.
Maybe
dm
zon
Blacklisted
Uss
How do I raw then
There is still fall start
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/10/business/gen-zs-financial-angst/index.html
Gen z has low meek.
While u guys sleep i am awake grinding
Thats why im employed at nofrills and you guys fucking arent
Keep complaining though, im built for this
You hear that?? Youβre sad because youβre an ungrateful little shit! The labour market is hot hot hot!
You canβt find a job because youβre a terrible person
And you canβt afford to live because youβre meek!
Every hardship you have faced in this life, you are facing it because you were a bad person in your past life . You are getting exactly what you deserve.
This life is a chance to redeem our sins for the next life.
Freshco is better
there's too many jobs in this market
You are the soldier of god
Yoel romero
Freshco goated frfr
can I get a referral? 
guys I am high schoooler
I want internship
resume review please
I can do leetcode hards easily
I am going to MIT next year
Why lie bro it says u r inc at waterloo
But its the mit of the north so ur not wrong
enjoy your summer
no
I lied on my website so people think I am orz
but if I dont get google internship 1st year then I am ngmi
What does orz mean
Ok bro π€£
any startups still open for summer?
EA just came out
what role
Intern
Is that a spycam feed at the end wtf
some landlord put up a listing for a $500 dollar sublet room in Toronto with the current/previous tenant still sleeping lmao
What a landchad
I aspire to be a person of land
lmao
it was creepy as hell and I think they got backlash
but tbh a child sized bed room costing $500 is crazy
only for people graduating before december 2024 i think
In dec or after
Check out this job at EA SPORTS: https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3896449887
fuck ecobee
mfs posted just to avoid any repurcussions that they didnt post the position when they fully knew they would hire internally anyways
uofpoo
insane how we just let this happen
so stupid
there's fewer housing supply now than there was 40 years ago relative to populaiton
We got cooked by politicians sucks
bro i just looked up when the election was
2025 oct
if trudeau doesn't go this year we're totally ngmi
Yeah but his replacement would also be just as shit, probably not any worse but defintely not better
idk i just know for sure anyone who says that the liberals are the best option are just blind or something
Anyone gave KPMG Software Developer (Intern/Co-op) Evaluation?
Just received it. Did everyone receive it?
Maybe, I just received it too
i type into linkedin: [company] hiring and all i see is straight up indian posts for the next 3 pages, all of our hiring has moved from canada to india for < 5 yoe to the point where new grad roles are booming in india, we're so fucking cooked
this is a lie, new grads in india are also fucked
but i did read an article about us firms offshoring to the uk
cuz shitty pound and cheapo salaries
not really dude, i straight up look at linkedin and how many posts there are for "freshers"
0-2 yoe
That term is ridiculous lmaoooo
its not its just british english
and now its indian english
Nah in the context of Indian culture its funny
how?
Its been that way for a while now
its the same for freshmen for me kek
But if you think its all outsourcing then youre looking too far, immigrants are eating up jr jobs left and right here
immigrants (excluding college international students) just grind man
But when you look at how they do things its not sustainable
weed and alc
π
started off with the
posting
Taking a wage cut to room with 10 other ppl just to have a job (still better conditions than working back home) and canadians are wondering why they cant find employmentπ
true trudeau needs to go and immigration needs to stop cuz there's no jobs for even the people here 
Hey even he said he went too far with immigration (he will not reduce it)
No
Im talking about people who come with 5-7 yoe from another country
Who take entry level / jr, it happened at my old workplace π
And a lot of other places too
honestly its so fucked the housing situation needs to be fixed first and foremost
and people have vilified the trades so much
smh
It will take 20-30 years unfortunately, housing is a disproportionately good investment in this country
unironically by back up plan
insane how literarlly buying a new house renting it and all that shit is less of an effort than like investing in stocks or bonds or producgive assets and businesses
Loooolllll no
Its still work
Yea but not at the money you think it is
And trades also have a lot of hidden barriers
Everyone would want a house
The productivity thing youre saying tho is because housing value is outpacing normal investment + lobbying has made it harder for competition to exist in industries like grocery, telecom
Compared to the states where they dont have oligopolies for basically everything
also ngl im starting to hate the status quo of opinions that canadians have on housing
they want to have thier cake and eat it too
Yea its a slow start but you can make goooood money after 8-10 years if youre a contractor
Like ridiculously good
everyone wants a sfh mcmansion with a car but also want affordable housing and transit
that's not how it works
Ik a dude whos a retired contractor and he still does woodwork from time to time, charges a months salary for 40 hours of work hahahaha
raising a kid in a nice ass condo with like 2 floors near transit and no car is unreal to them
like
if u wanna fix things
there's gonna be some changes
u can just have suburban sprawl for ever and ever
Wdym
^
a nice big condo is not even on their list
sure condo is annoying with the fees but if they bring it down
i'm not talking about people struggling im talking about people's opinions
like even if they werent they still want sfh and are ok driving like 1.5 hours to work or something
When you have a family + expenses its tough to take something low paying, thats what stops people from grinding in a low pay job for that long
also like capital is unwilling to take any risk at all
Yeaaaa
Ive noticed that here lol
There were hardly any canadian businesses when I was at CES
insane
people move to sf to start tech biznizes
smh
literally close the border build more housing, kill the housing market speculation, etc etc so many ez wins to a lager W but noooooooooooooo
we need to focus on like other niche issues
The boomers/politicians who own 2-3 houses each wouldnt like that π±
So tough luck, should have been born 10 years ago
Do it like montreal introduce density and build up the transit
4 plexes π
good quiality apartments and condos not shoeboxes
Ive been like 6-7 states
and the us in gneeral
toronto/montreal so nice
never been to vancouver or calgary so i can't say
My fave has been illinois but even then I didnt like it
Calgarys ok
Really borung tho
but man ontario/quebec are just amazing to live i think
Toronto is so nice
like side property in the sticks >>>>>>>>>>>
New york made me hate existing aftera week lolll
Yea I did not like it
instead im moving to fucking fremont
why?
i really wanted nyc
i think i'd like nyc
The city reeks
Like smells like actual piss
like dog or worse?
No like
Real
Piss
There are signs that tell people not to piss on the streets π
tbf my first day on the montreal metro i say a guy piss on the tracks
Everythings expensive asf there
Super crowded all the time but thats not exactly the worst thing
The culture is kinda π¬
la stm vous soushaite bienvenue la bord
rlly?
i heard it's a place where things are just happening
and good place to live with tons of shit to do
My friends had a hard time there π€£π€£π€£π€£
like you'd enver be bored
Locals kept heckling them
were u there for internship?
Nahh just visiting
was ur friend a woman?
No
Like they were complaining to me about it im like thats just what happens
worse than ttc
ππππ
Nyc subway was something else πππ
It literally felt like a cartoon
People are so bold too they wont hesitate to test u in broad daylight its hilarious
@lost lark yo u got job yet?
what do u like then
In between jobs rn
π
Im picky so its my fault
arent u a loo kid?
I unironically liked queens π
smh
what offers did u turn down?
Took the L on that icl π
Yea but ur meta right
π
So it worked out, I took the gamble and it didnt pan out π
so you chose nothing over this role, what are u gonna do in summer then?
Im still working
like party school what else is there
oh lol
π
Graduated
Anyone looking for summer housing in Calgary?
oh damn
Yall are cooked
150+ LeetCode solved 
How did that guy land 6 internships but fail 24 interviews in a row
Brother needs Jesus
Hello
That's me
i can finally say it
[redacted] is a dogshit website no one uses that shitty site theyre gonna burn within 2 years max
exactly
Ainβt no way
Its because I mogged him
Not exactly me but took a lot of L's on interviews
Focus on looksmaxing, mewing and praying to Allah. You will find a path.
Finally some non troll advice in this chat
Well you can say like class was cut in half or they cancelled new grad program or they reached headcount
Not the same
This guy was getting cooked at hr phone
π
No return offer = no job for eternity
how are you guys getting that many interviews? 
FACTSSS
Yeah I'm thinking this was a personality issue
Lol
Its like everything that could go bad went bad π
how did he even find 10k jobs to apply to o_o
Oh, he graduated last year huh
Still, that's insane.
Have you found anything in Calgary?
I guess I should be extremely grateful getting multiple offers for NG with ~500 apps o_o
Yea can I DM?
anyone did jerry's interview
If you can teach 10 people to make 100k in 3 days, why can't you just earn 100k every 3 days doing the same thing you're teaching people and do that the whole entire time?
something something altruism
You should refer this guy at work
Could teach your company traders some serious alpha
effective
10/10 he's gotta be a guru; probably said no to every shop begging for his expertise because he wants to give back to the world
I think it means build the skills to achieve a six-figure salary in 3 days
But I already have that
How do I get to 300k
(without leaving Canada)
300k salary 150k on tax
be feridun hamdullahpur
If anyone is looking for housing in Vancouver this summer, DM. Subletting my 2b2b apartment by UBC
Are you guys ready for SWE (or non meek unemployed bum) to drafted soldier pipeline?
Iβm ready sir!
Anyone heard back from BDO for full stack dev intern fall 24
autonomous weapon system SWE
Is it doable to work remote for an american company while living in canada ?
like it should be technically possible but do american companies allow that ?
yea, some companies allow that
Question for all the men out there
What is the best competitive programming to have on your resume
Apart from IOI and AIME?
What is there that is resume worthy?
Putting LeetCode or HackerRank is super cringy and top coder or at coder stats are not much better
Now that Google code jam is discontinued what is the alternative
How to beef up the resume with competitive programming now that these options are gone?
Is there a Meta Hacker Cup or a new Google code jam replacement ? USACO is for high school students so that isnβt an option either
If someone has a good approach leave me a message my inbox is open or else just reply here both are great thank for the advances
Tagging some friend for advice insertion @lapis tide @azure junco feel to leave your return result below ππ»
None. . ?
How was your work at starbucks today?
All competitions are useless unless it's a competition in OOP, OS concepts and Clean Architecture. Everything else is worthless
I love the place, place japan memes
I swear it's sooo true
Applies to anything
Ghettos mad soy face
Ghetto japan excited soy face
I had a saved folder full of this to send to my annoying weaboo person I used to know
meta hacker cup is still a thing
wagmi
is this the uw cs 23 thing
Ye
Anybody do the OPG OA?
Yes
propaganda from UW kids to have you not work hard so they can have all the good co-ops
dont fall for it soldier
Dm?
looking at the income of students parents makes me feel less shitty about getting deferred from cs+coop to plain cs and se to ece
still mad tho
the kids who went to loo my class from my school are still unemployed 
Its biased
Just @ me lmfaooooooo
No wtf πππ
im joking lol i know you're not frank
π€₯
but man the schaudenfreude hitting me real good rn
its great
i think schaudenfruede is legit top 5 feelings u can have
Me when I see uwcs coops unemployed
i saw this guy on r/uwaterloo complain that a someone who went to ryerson doesnt deserve linkedin fulltime offer (and i actually know the ryerson linkedin guy he 1000000000% deserved it)
Loooool
if anyones down to grind out sick projects with the goal of monetization this summer, hmu
Metro Boomin want some more
Question: my current resume is filled with lots of backend related experience (all of it). I'm currently working in a company doing internship in testing, should i put that into my resume?
I feel like i did nothing in this company lol
Atrocious
anyone get amazon oa vancouver?
It's alright if you want a customer support position
Yeah absolutely why wouldnβt you?
im ngmi
Fake
Is there a company callous enough to write "Dear Employee"?
Do they make nails or something?
I will be unemployed likenyoun. Has thou have no mercy?
goodnight @grave quest
He was mean 2 me π¦
i love seeing tmu mans succeed
Try your best to escape Canada. That is my only advice.
Ageee. I like Canada, without Canada I wouldnt have met my ML friends and @storm stream @grave quest @glad echo @tight gale @zenith eagle and many more.


Ml bros 

Tf is this dawg π
I am probably a minority for this but I donβt think Canadian healthcare is good.
Hospitals struggle to have enough resources. Seeing a specialist is months, if not years, of waiting. Treatment can be lower quality since theyβre trying to churn through as much as possible.
From start to finish, I waited a total of 2 years to have an allergist prescribe me meds
i think the main issue
is that ADHD or anxiety
or depression is not considered a real disease
doctors just look at it and say ur mentally fragile
or if ur from an asian family
I thought it was in Canada?
Pretty sure itβs considered a disability, no?
but i'm saying it's not treated as a physical disability
it's more like just a mental thing
and it's not taken seriously
no?
I donβt think Iβve heard much in the way of treating those as physical disabilities. Iβve only seen and heard of it being considered as mental disorders.
so would u stay in canada vs going to us? @neon imp
I'm moving to the us for work soon
To be clear, I think both us/ca have their good and bad parts. For this convo, I was specifically saying I don't think Canadian HC is good (without comparing it to another country in particular).
but in US you have 0 healthcare coverage
you have to pay complete out of pocket
that is a crop
what does crop here mean?
i mean crap
do not swear
i think canadian healthcare, for the average canadian is better than US
access to care alone
canada is much better
cost of healthcare aswell
wait times , yea u might need to wait if its seeing a specialist, but for urgent emergency care where wait times r critical, we still get timely treatment
That's a fair opinion. I'm not comparing canadian HC to us HC. I think canadian HC can be improved significantly by replacing a lot of our infrastructure (and honestly, our processes).
A low hanging one is some areas require paramedics to stay at the hospital or clinic until the patient is admitted. These paramedics aren't allowed to respond to another emergency even if all they're doing is waiting untiul their patient is processed.
To be clear, I think our HC has its good sides too. It's not like it's all bad.
agreed, can definitely be improved upon
our infrastructure is far behind many other commonwealth countries, not just in healthcare either
ngl i have never had these kinds of issues with the canadian healthcare system
i don't think i've ever waited more than 2-3 weeks to see a specialist
you just need to know how to navigate the system and advocate for yourself
Yea, it's anecdotal and has definitely affected how I see our HC system
Ambulance is like 2 hours here and ER 12 hours
Quebec
You gotta see what he sends me
take in that the US gov spends twice as much per person on healthcare compared to Canada and you STILL need to pay on top of that
Dont swear.. this is family frendly channel π‘π‘π‘π‘
my fault. ML suffix sentence....
wait you are not even a validated ML lol
If u join a top tier tech company ur premiums are 100% covered
should i give up
How can i become a validated ml?
Yes
You're right. In the past 3 years it has turned into veterinary care for humans.
I work in the US now and as a healthy young person, the US healthcare system is really annoying
80% of my mail is healthcare related. I need to keep track of health savings accounts and reimbursements since everything is so convoluted. Before going to a doctor I need to check if they're in network. Before having a prescription made, I need to check which pharmacy they can send it to. Before getting your procedure, your doctor won't tell you what it costs and maybe give you a rough estimate. In my experience, insurance then makes up some excuse and you are hit with a bill you didn't expect.
And there's still month long waits for specialists (at least that's the case for dermatologists)
Would Cisco or IBM cover that
Send me your neural network weightsβ¦
Sent
I said "top tier"
Meta doesn't 
And premiums are only a portion of the total cost. The real cost comes from hitting your deductible before they pay for most of your expenses
Those are top tier to me
What do u view as top tier then?
rbc and gaotek
A salary is just the drug they give you when they want you to give up on your dreams
no salary would make me give up on you

u know market down bad when
DONDA
Hey is anyone's company sponsoring hackathons here? We're looking for a sponsors for a hackathon at the University of Waterloo, feel free to DM me if you know anyone that'd be interested in sponsoring an event
dm
Whats a waterloo?
opg is cool
Career fair for eng/cs at Palais in Montreal π
Y'all are cooked
Come over I'll let you cut
@glad echo
Idk why I'm even here tbh
No way anyone here can compete with my current
lol concordia
Where do you see Concordia?
Any Canadian postings for fall yet? :o
who's graduating in may/june this year
does anyone work at IBM here?
early career frontend dev posting for splunk (vancouver): https://www.splunk.com/en_us/careers/jobs/software-engineer-early-in-29760.html
Nvm my eyes deceived me it looked like the engineering building at concordia
Bro knows what the Concordia buildings look like
It's over π
I have less fortunate friends
@magic cave that video is equivalent to the video of everyone lining up for a min wage job in lcbo, restaurants and pearson
are we cooked?
should i give up chat?
Give up on what?
money
me
I took a photo of a QR code and this resume was in it
Do people really put TurboTax as a technology???
can you refer me?
A lot
Let see if I caj find a photo
They're French
There were only local companies lmao
And wageslave jobs
Not even UPS, they had FedEx π
i dont think career fairs are even worth it
never had any benefit of attending a career fair
I actually find great success at them, I think most actual humans who read my resume coom all over it
Way better than the ATS shit that never gets read
And then the recruiter expedites me through the pipeline too
This was was weird though, they mostly asked for paper resumes and a lot of them felt weirded out when I introduced myself to them
I guess they were mostly "company representatives" rather than HR and hiring
And not really in the tech niche since it was like general companies
tell them in french then
No I assumed I got ghosted
Not for new grad
I dont have any kind of data analyst on my resume tho thats probably why
Lmaooo thats concerning
What about business analyst
Or business systems
Those arent bad but they are kind of unfair at times
Proctored OAs are a lot worse imo
ππ
Like 3 out of the last 5 oas i got were proctored idgi
I wish they were IQ tests
Is python just bad for hackerrank
I had an optimal solution for one question and they still gave time limit exceeded when I used python
But apparently with c++ it would have passed
For hackerrank?
For codesignal it does
Hello
hi sleepydino
is that ur cat
π€¨
Wat is the name of this fair? And do they only offer internships?
Nvm bytedance read my data and showed a tiktok of the event on my fyp
It's happening today too
do u tink my cat is cute
no
is chaewon cute ML boys?
which is cuter ML boys?
is Hyperbolics monkey cuter?
Monkey or Chaewon?
Yes
SHUT UP U WORK AT MCDONS HONQUE
You never stood a chance
I miss you
bbg
β€οΈ
how's ng
I thought
PMATh
would've save ur ass
with brain teaser
lol
obv
I mean
just go for masters
and grind more co-op
perma intern
β€οΈ
wait
ur not
citizen?
I stg I thought ur Canadian...
damm
WHERE IS MY BBT
I AM HERE DURING WINTER TERM
YOU PROMISED ME
I am currently crying in bloomberg lab
across of Maclab
no
wtf
MC building
yk where the bloomberg lab at?
it's right across math soc
by math cafe
rip
3rd floor of MC
ye
it's by the bridge
to SLC
ye
WHERE IS MY BBT
TWAN
COME ON
SAY LESS
I shall
observe
ur linkedin
my comp is hiring
ng
send me ur resume
@worldly ridge are you HIRING MFKER
GIVE THIS MFKER JOB SO I GET BBT
AND MAKE ME A SANDWICH
ong
ye
but it is swe though
not quant
or anything related to whatever you're doing
like webdev
still 6 fig
ng
it's not public
it's internal posting
dm me ur resume
kk
I wouldn't trust someone with vojak dp

not my actual dp
server dp
he's intl
yeah but he should have planned it earlier
time is up
choosing canada 
its not pr points are crazy tbh unreachable and pnps are getting axed down/slowed
ee points?
No way you wont cross 500
try calculating it
its lmia job offer
you wont get points for regular job offers
lmia is different
yeah but its not lmia
when r u graduating?
May 2025
currently working as a FT SWE
contracted for 1 year
hopefully when I grad
they either extend contract
or give me FT
return
bro's a troll with vojak pfp if im not wrong you already have faang
I don't
I do have 7+ internships though
and I don't go to a target uni in Canada
shaqoneal?
waz that uni of manitoba?
wlu >> loo
the shittiest name on my resume
is BlackBerry
literally debating whether I should remove it
or not
I will try to hook you up
I will put in good word
β€οΈ
I'm in too if its not a mcD job vojak
I have known Twan for years
I don't refer rands
sorry
no offence

sadly no π¦
mcdons is not hiring losers
@last parcel does wlu have employment rate for co ops
if its like 30 percent for uw is it 0.3 percent for wlu
Idk
But it should be
Like
Dog water
it explains why ur in mcdonald
SWE McDonaldβs Mfker
make me a burger

Mfker
best i can do is dis
i think akitas taste better
instead of shibas
Still Chonk
Where are you staying now
Still the 6?
harborfront with @weak gazelle
nah im acc in mexico rn lol
lol
stop lying to people dawg
also get me in
siemens cucked me
did u get any offers yet
dang siemans was a long time ago
no
they made me wait a month after final interview
just to send me an automated email

i dont wanna study for my final tomorrow i hate this course so much man π
dam
i remember when u got the siemans hr call or oa
t_t
That's tough, I remember too
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-iran-missile-strikes/
looks like inflation will be sticky in canada and we wil be drafted

fuck it bro let the world burn
gotta see the black flags eventually
@storm stream i remember our convo where i wanted to visited iran and then dis happened π
crazy times we live in
bro we have to escape Canada
π
this country has gone to complete shit
only mohamad nabina and ishmael can save us now πππ
Bro who are these people π π
prophet mohamad???
okay i assume itsnpopular because @analog current likes it
@analog current ur countrys going to war dawg. im so sorry to hear habibi. i hope ur fanily is safe der 
bro that's the name of the song "our prophet mohamad"
π€£
wait whose nabina
OH
LMAO
π
i cant
federal skill worker program right? internship exp counts too
bro if i get a job offer, im at like 539 ish
no bro regular job offer is not lmia
you can't check the box for job offer
Can an employer ask for passport+driven license for proof of work eligibility?
yes
Recession
Did u just become a muslim?
@worldly ridge
U said muhammad (pbuh) is your prophet
hello! I came back to pay back to this channel
If anyone with strong knowledge in C and bachelorβs degree is interested in embedded software engineer role, 6 month contract, in Markham plz dm me!
alhamdulilah i only pray to allah now
ramadan and iftar has given me enlightment
@analog current is ur fam okay habibi
CS to iran insurgent pipeline
no
π
i have family in iraq and syria
its so over π
Canada is just a ponzi scheme
fr. we have no industry at all
new yannis just dropped; it was a doom maxxing drop
πππ families are all in hotspots
π
Fr
real estate
Rt
The cali or bust people had it right
i disagree
?????? how's this in response to eran and esrael fighting?
sorry bro i got a job
real
YOIKES
ye
?
yass
im a loser as well
we all are π
tbh i barely even was present on campus like 30 times?
so extra disconnected
yeah that sucks'
3005 is db right?
i had to write a simple db
fun
great better than whatever the fuck they're making u do
i loved his course
never had him i think
honestly i think i had better profs there than at uoft
i really like the profs here
yeah
same, but the specs are so vague and he changed the rubric a week before due date
and ya
and was so vague, didnt tell us half until 2 weeks before due
i literally speedran the work and did cmu coding assignments as my acutal learning
real af
i hate that so many schools have ur makrs dependant on exams or whatever, like bro i just wanna code
im taking 6 classes and ta, and did most of my group projects
5 exams π
dont have time
yeah thats insane
all my exams are 30%+ except electives
1 elective is 25%
1 cs is 30%
and rest are like 35, and 40
i took a lot of cs electives
crypto was fun
had like 7 cs courses at one time
baseddd
i dont wanna code that much
i wanna get a breadth while i can
so i doing 4 cs, 2 other
is crypto still by jason?
ahhh bahen
9th floor was a mood
then the loser admins had to put barriers up
ew
theory with no applications is ||redacted||
much rather be a applications chad vs theorycel
im still so mad i can't just walk out of an exam climb to 9th floor bahen and contemplate life
ye
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