canada

[magic cave]

He is 😮‍💨

He went band for band with me today with facepics

Negative canthal tilt

Prey eyes

Doesn't even bonesmash

[weak gazelle]

i've seen ec2 work and it's top tier, as intern his work is at level of distinguised engineer lol

his PRs usually have single word descriptions

because of how readable the code is

[stable ravine]

would you guys hire 5$ swe from fiverrr to do your 100k$ swe job

[zenith eagle]

what if he ends up being better than u

[magic cave]

Where do I find a $5 swe

He's $0

But damn, everyone's laying it into this guy

[worldly ridge]

SWE will be outsourced to fiverr and India and AI

mark my words...

the meek shall inherit the earth...

[fossil field]

yea yahkuna is right

idk what about but hes right

[stable ravine]

thats great coz I gibe him 10$ bonus every month with my 50k$ hike

[zenith eagle]

my ego couldnt handle it im ngl

but good for u i guess

[magic cave]

He wouldn't be better

[stable ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/rotating-skull-gif-24524852

[worldly ridge]

I love you, hope your weekend was great Andre

[worldly ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-confused-gif-15712129875520007531

[stable ravine]

you use this coz I have monkey pfp?

[worldly ridge]

no its becasue you behave like a leetcode monkey...

[stable ravine]

how u know

how u find

[worldly ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M69Sn3OERZo

[zenith eagle]

gm frens

[dense frigate]

Anyone knows the return rate of HP SDET intern?

[azure wren]

are OAs automatic or based on resume screen/school or random or somt?

anyone

[tough knot]

all of the above

[azure junco]

depends

[ivory pond]

Recruiters so slow man

[magic cave]

You should start spamming them and typing in all caps

HELLO

WHERE ARE YOU

REPLY ME

REPLY ME PELASE

They'll know you're eager to work that way 👍🏿

[ivory pond]

[drifting shore]

dont need objective/summaries for intern positions

[charred basin]

already going to india

got a friend over there working at deloitte

not a swe position or a tech position but just a sign that business is moving there

[worldly ridge]

Canda will become a techhub when countires in the global south and coastal cities suffer from climate change

Short term profits now == India
Short term profits after climate change disasters causing food and water shortages, climate refuges === Canada

This is reality.

Thoughts @charred basin ?

[charred basin]

so basically ill be fucked cause if i cant get a job in canada for the next 2.5 years or so i have to leave canada so i miss out on canadian boom and ill be suffering in india once the boom there subsides

💀

[worldly ridge]

ayo atleast you can get bomb food if you go back to india

[charred basin]

i can get that here too 😭

canada is full of indians

[worldly ridge]

sorry i just love indian food so much and my indian friends say its 100x better in india

[charred basin]

it iss

but i wont be going back just for that

[worldly ridge]

[charred basin]

also btw another thing

the city i used to live in india and is now the tech hub of india 😭

regrets

[worldly ridge]

i guess it got gentirfied hard?

[charred basin]

it always was kind of a hub but its just grown with all the outsourcing

ik someone who used work in a tech company there and now works here in canada at a tech company

[jade crystal]

cyber hub is crazy now

[charred basin]

he said the amenities you get in companies there like game rooms and cafes inside the company you only get here at companies like google

[charred basin]

is it really ?

i havent been since 2018 since i moved to canada

[worldly ridge]

just give me fully remote

[charred basin]

💀

is this what it looks like now @jade crystal

[worldly ridge]

is it like this

[charred basin]

lmao

[worldly ridge]

beside the tech hub

guess where this is in india

[charred basin]

pretty much

[charred basin]

mumbai ?

[worldly ridge]

yes mumbai slums

[charred basin]

gurgaon isnt that bad though

but we in canada now

its a whole new game here 😩

i just want a job 😔

[worldly ridge]

do u like india or candaa more cultaraly

ive heard its more lonely there in india

people are more individualistic here

[charred basin]

nah its def more lonely here in canada

idk if its the weather like the winter

[worldly ridge]

yeah thats what i hjeard as well

[charred basin]

mhm

[worldly ridge]

nahh people defo keep more to themselves here

[charred basin]

fr in india i went out to eat with friends almost daily lmao

but also i was in highschool maybe adult life is different

moved here when i was 18

so anyways i just hopped off a call with a recruiter , for a IT tech support position 9 month contract in toronto

[worldly ridge]

suburban kids here just play games all day because whenur small its hard to visit ur friends becasue a car would hit u

[charred basin]

for a fortune 500 company but the pay is only 19/hr

she said she'll call me again to explain the interview process

[worldly ridge]

goodluck

[charred basin]

a car would hit you in india too LOL

atleast some stop here to let you cross

no one stops there

you gotta find an opening to cross

but funny enough i never got hit by a car in india but got hit in canada 🤣

[charred basin]

also theres no good indian food here in toronto mississauga as far as ive seen so far

[worldly ridge]

i rememebr u telling me this

[charred basin]

BC had better indian food fs

[worldly ridge]

maybe try brampton

?

[charred basin]

i am close to brampton

indian foods pretty shit here

[worldly ridge]

its mostlyu north indian food too there right

[charred basin]

i only found one place so far near my home that has decent food

[charred basin]

yes

[worldly ridge]

yeah i think its harder to get south indian ingredients here

[charred basin]

bc had this good south indian place and many good north indian places too

[worldly ridge]

dam interesting

[charred basin]

nah brampton is just full of north indians thats why

[worldly ridge]

ohh

how come

where are all my south indian bros

[charred basin]

cause its all people from punjab lmaooo

not many south indians come to canada

they go to the US

even the south indian restaurant in BC was run by north indians lmao

[worldly ridge]

why is that?

[charred basin]

just tradition ig , punjabis put a hype around canada and the south people did the same for the US

canada has more punjabis than india itself

but also punjabis are everywhere ive got relatives in places like france

[worldly ridge]

i see intersting

people from china and india are guarnteed everywehre

they have a billion people

[charred basin]

lmao fr

i had a layover in ukraine when i was come back to canada to india

had a stay in a hotel

[worldly ridge]

they still let you fly to ukraine?

[charred basin]

no one spoke english there and i was having trouble finding my driver and i saw an indian guy there 🤣

[charred basin]

this was before the war

in 2021

[charred basin]

made him talk to my driver on the phone and he told me where to go

lol

i didnt like ukraine though but ig some guys would

i almost got flashed there

[worldly ridge]

flashed?

[charred basin]

yes

some girl came to me and unzipped her jacket and i turned around so fast

lmao

and got a lot of looks from girls there near and in my hotel

i was very uncomfortable

[worldly ridge]

interesting

[charred basin]

the hotel didnt even provide dinner

they said we got a bar but no dinner

took me an hour to find some food since no one spoke english

[worldly ridge]

use google translate and start asking people next time 😉

[charred basin]

i did lmao i was using my phone to find restaurants

[worldly ridge]

i met so many nice people who dont speak english with google translate durign my international travels

[charred basin]

found one menu was in ukrainian

so i just pointed to a picture on the menu and the guy understood lmaooo

that was a hell of a travel cause direct flights from india to canada were banned during that time cause of the delta variant

so i had to go - delhi -> uae -> ukraine (1 day stay) -> paris -> montreal -> toronto -> vancouver

[worldly ridge]

bruh wtf

[charred basin]

fr

[worldly ridge]

brou paid for like 10 seats

💀

[charred basin]

and they didnt accept covid tests from india

so i got one in ukraine during my stay

[charred basin]

when i landed in montreal from paris the immigration officer started speaking french to me 💀

[jade crystal]

Even better than this iirc

[charred basin]

damn

i gotta visit again some day

hopefully after i get citizenship here 😭

[azure wren]

@dusky lintel makes tons of sense, thanks for the advice. Do you recommend any tools or resources for configuring a resume per position? I've seen a few tools but nothing good enough that hits every detail that I would manually. Also do you recommend writing cover letters and adding awards/achievements/leadership sections because of these factors?

[zenith eagle]

In my experience I don't bother personalizing résumés to each job posting

Shit takes too much time

And I used to write cover letters but they're a waste of time I've never had anyone read em

You're better of spamming applications and then trying to get an edge via referral, cold email, etc

And also use the extra time to get good at LC

[magic cave]

No point in LC if you can't get past the screen

Though I agree that resume augments are marginal, unless you are applying to DS vs SWE, etc.

Now an important question

[tacit stag]

Heyy guys does anyone know any larger sized companies (not necessarily FAANG) that do 12-16 month internships

[magic cave]

How do I make sure that my labour is still valuable once the singularity hits?

[tacit stag]

Or maybe the best way to get those kind of internships

[magic cave]

Ericcson, Kinaxis, Intact off the top of my head

[tacit stag]

Sweet okay I’ve seen the ericcson ones. I wonder if companies in the US do it often too

I know they r quite popular in Canada because of UoT and other schools that do something like PEY

[drifting shore]

amd

[ivory pond]

Ford

[azure wren]

yeaa true okay. I do currently use a mixed strategy between AI and manual edits, but often not worth the time costs. Hopefully things might get a little easier in the future, but same ways, the entire market will just adapt regardless and it'll still be that much easier for everyone. Thanks so the insights tho, I'll definitely start to focus some of these factors more.

while I'm asking questions, as a 2023 grad that went the direction of working on my own startup but am now looking to transition to another role, would I be better off applying for early level or still pushing for ng roles? I know I'm super late on the ng train and things are pretty bad rn, but how bad are my chances at ng right now? keep in mind I'm planning on doing cold emailing, networking etc.

Should my entire narrative be that I'm looking for new opportunities but want to try to squeeze into newgrad? or just go for more early-level and non-ng, not emphasizing/mentioning the ng piece at all?

i have 16 month + 4 month co-op. And now almost a year at startup but no funding. So it's sticky

[surreal owl]

any ppl interning at workday vancouver/victoria this summer hmu pls esp if victoria

[azure wren]

yea that does make sense

so just push past the entry level period however I can

no I am completely confident in the experience, I was just saying that more to the fact that it won't be recognizable, but not uncommon I guess

It's def good experience but everything is so tough rn. But yea I think being kinda late for these ng roles I might have better luck by just applying early level but worried that might even be harder

but if I'm going to blast out cold emails** I should really choose one or the other

because I need to have certain roles in mind. Also varies per company I guess because some still have ng available and some totally done

yea ik it can def help my sitation considering I'm trying for roles 10 months post grad

idk tho

[dusky lintel]

ok I think I understand your question. But NG postings will explicitly state whether 2023 grads are eligible or not right in the requirements right?

[azure wren]

yeaa they do, new grad roles are just basically done now (or a bunch of my apps are just sitting there), so I was going to be following up and emailing about those ng roles, but thinking maybe I should just say fuck it and push for early level instead of ng. I'm not seeing anything about ng roles these days so I might just have to bite the bullet and network for 1+ YOE.

but yea lmk if that makes sense, I'm just kinda in between ng and 1+ YOE so not sure which direction to go, but I guess it varies

[dusky lintel]

im going to move this to DM, we're spamming the channel

[spice sapphire]

Anyone heard back from Shopify for summer internship after the technical interview?

[magic cave]

I want the tea though

[signal garden]

recruiter said hopefully later this week

[quartz ridge]

Does internship experience count as YOE

[magic cave]

Depends

But usually no

[autumn sand]

anybody get meta US internship for the summer?

[tough knot]

How was the technical

[weak gazelle]

i could find 1 person

goated loo cs major currently at company that's better than meta

[neon imp]

When I get asked for yoe, I count all my internships because the exp is counted towards my p.eng work exp. Also, these companies would usually rather interview people with internship exp rather than no exp, so it’s worth something.

Mid case, I get a shot at their interview and improve my interviewing skills. Worst case, I get rejected anyways 😅

[autumn sand]

I’m curious about meta specifically haha

[weak gazelle]

yea

i'm talking about the guy who got meta

he is a goated loo cs major currently at a company that's better than meta

[autumn sand]

ohhh I misunderstood

tbh I was just wondering if anyone from Canada was able to get sponsorship from them since I’m interviewing w them rn

good to know

[weak gazelle]

yea they sponsor

are you international or doemstic

in canada

[autumn sand]

domestic

[weak gazelle]

yea J1 is same for both

but you also qualify for TN when they ask u

so that should be good

but their bar is rlly rlly high this year it seems

for canadians

[autumn sand]

they asked me for immigration info but idk I hear they’re at HC too so idk if they even wanna bother

[weak gazelle]

US ez af

[autumn sand]

so annoying

I got asked 5 LC’s in 30 minutes lol, p sure they were all easys but still

[weak gazelle]

tf

[autumn sand]

was for de too, not even swe😭

[quartz ridge]

Good approach ty

[stable ravine]

2024 interviews be lyk

[fossil field]

n.o.

[fiery prism]

Does meta sponsor J1

Got asked for TN visa but I told them I don’t have since I’m international

[vivid fiber]

TN Visa is for new grad

[vivid fiber]

J1 is for students

Is this a new grad or intern role?

[fiery prism]

For intern role

But he asked me abt TN so I’m a bit scared

So I guess they sponsors J1?

[vivid fiber]

TN is not applicable for intern role anyway

Tell them that

And tell them you need a J1 visa since you're a student

[fiery prism]

Ah okay thks, I’ll let them know, they asked me before final

[storm stream]

Canadians are getting new grad

[quartz ridge]

You do a project for 4 months on a team. Once you grad you get Senior Role immediately TC is around 130

So yes I’d say quite good…

[azure junco]

no way rbc pays 130k for ng

[quartz ridge]

They give you senior role and TC for Amplify

Normal RBC is 90-95

Only Amplify and Borealis can pay that much

I heard BorealIS is more like 110 though

[azure junco]

wait i always thought amplify paid less than regular rbc

[quartz ridge]

Amplify is higher

[azure junco]

wtf

[quartz ridge]

No Amplify is by far the best

Once you graduate and get RO you get Senior role

Go to LinkedIn and check any Amplify returns

They all have senior title

BorealIS is the AI branch of RBC

It’s BorealIS AI

I don’t know the exact breakdown for Amplify

I heard it’s high

Its project based on teams of 4

Versus normal RBC you’re just a standalone intern

Don’t nego in this market

Tbh RO is all that matters

[vivid fiber]

My friend has

But only as a returning intern

[zenith eagle]

What company

[stone osprey]

Man I highly doubt this statement

[stone osprey]

More like 80

[stone osprey]

Amplify higher than normal probably

That’s pretty high for RBC

But on the hindsight amplify is not as high as I expected cause normal Rbc interns this summer are in late 20s

[strange jay]

yo anyone got bmo 2025 quant phone round

[stone osprey]

Upon checking, this is true in a few cases where people either got senior right away or senior in 10-11 months. But then I have seen normal RO interns get senior at RBC in 10 months

[strange jay]

mb digital interview

[magic ether]

is cool, im doing it this summer!

ohh u just got offer? Nice! I didn't negotatiate and was offered 30, I doubt they go higher than 32 tho

[halcyon arrow]

Yeah they told me I was rejected

[stone osprey]

Do you know what office will you be in yet!

Queens?

There are multiple in Toronto

Ahhh then I suppose Toronto at least has 3 office lol

Ah damn

I’m not amplify im normal intern

So wouldn’t know

[magic ether]

yes its 180 wellington street

[stone osprey]

Interesting are you returning intern ?

That’s pretty cool, how much were you getting paid before?

Ye not a big jump but I guess Rbc doesn’t pay much

29 for summer intern

[vivid fiber]

45 iirc

[stone osprey]

FROM RBC?

Damn

Damn

[vivid fiber]

Ok

[broken whale]

i am getting 48/hr for borealis

ok lil bro

[stone osprey]

Huh

[dense frigate]

Guys, what's probability of getting a lead sde position in stackadapt as a (1st semester)ms student in loo?

[magic cave]

What's stackadapt

[halcyon arrow]

No I didn't even get my resume accepted

[worldly ridge]

did u get an interview

[dense frigate]

I got reached out by a recruiter.

And it's kind of confused.

[worldly ridge]

just go with it, maybe they have another role for u or something

[dense frigate]

Hope so...

[worldly ridge]

will be very odd if they give u a senior+ title tho

[dense frigate]

I believe lead is > senior & staff?

[worldly ridge]

not sure abt their company hierarchy

they r a nice company tho!

my classmate works there and has good WLB

goodluck 🙂

[storm stream]

Hello Canadians

[gilded charm]

anyone considering Masters degree

[signal sail]

And got an email from doordash? About high volume applications etc

Asking to let them know if u haveany competing offers

[molten ether]

Is that why they rescinded my verbal offer last week? 😅

[quartz ridge]

Did they actually rescind u wtf

[molten ether]

yeah they were doing team match for me then a week later they told me they decided not to move forward smh

[broken whale]

Bruh

That’s BS

[molten ether]

no kidding

[quartz ridge]

That’s messed up

[proud coyote]

[molten ether]

[worldly ridge]

im sticking to uber eats

[tranquil goblet]

anyone know when amazon summer start date is? do all interns have to start at the same time or does it vary?

[magic cave]

You can pick between a range

[gloomy trellis]

Hows everyone doing with their applications? Have you guys been able to get a decent return of interviews/OA's?

for new grad positions^

[magic cave]

It's over

I started trading crypto

Making more money than I ever did as a SWE

[normal jetty]

Blud is escaping the 9-5

[normal jetty]

Do u do airdrops

[magic cave]

Airdrops?

[normal jetty]

Nvm lol

[azure wren]

super over

[magic cave]

I do regular drops

[azure wren]

what do I put

[crystal comet]

put your expected total compensation

[azure wren]

respects

[magic cave]

90000

[zenith eagle]

0

[dusky lintel]

im late but next time look up the comp range on levels.fyi or glassdoor

[lucid loom]

just put how much u want lmao

[magic cave]

800k, a company panamera and apartment in Harbourfront

[weak gazelle]

i rmb i put 100k for hellofresh intern and got reject

[lucid loom]

Who cares

[weak gazelle]

fr

im just saying

they reject based on it sometimes

[lucid loom]

Esp for new grad b

I’m not taking a huge pay cut cause u can’t pay properly

[weak gazelle]

canada NG like 70k

..

NUT wym

[lucid loom]

Oh I’m not referring to ur number

I’m just saying for what u would put in

In general like just put what u want

[weak gazelle]

yea ofc but then only apply to places that have the capability to pay that much

why even waste ur time

[lucid loom]

Yur

Ik im w that

[broken whale]

🧢

congrats on nvidia tho @weak gazelle

[lapis tide]

nut

[zenith eagle]

hello

@fossil field i got fb offer

[surreal owl]

Thoughts on leaving a company 4 months into the internship even though it's 8 months long, like what consequences are there other than potential blacklist from that company?

[real mason]

if you got it through your school's co-op program there might be consequences there

[fossil field]

woooot really

congratz!

[fossil field]

do full 8 months

[zenith eagle]

Ty bother

[fresh fog]

Thoughts on devin ?

[zenith eagle]

If you doing mickey mouse webdev it's joever

[boreal sorrel]

mickey mouse webdev 🤣

[fresh fog]

for some reason I thought that UI work would last longer than api related stuff

[zenith eagle]

Like I literally cannot react at all

I cannot centre a div

So I'm doing cpp db internals dev

[fresh fog]

because api is really easy to test whereas UI is hard for an machine to see

what do you think ?

[boreal sorrel]

literally we are alike

[fresh fog]

I do web dev, maybe I should find another job (intern)

[magic cave]

Ask to split it up

Typically companies only do that because they don't want the downtime associated with onboarding

[zenith eagle]

O rlly

Where at

[shadow warren]

subletting a spacious master bedroom in a 3b 2b apartment with a personal washroom and fully furnished. location is in little italy in toronto which is 15 min walk from campus.
dm me if interested, rent is $1700 including utilities and internet

[fossil field]

learn blazor c#

[zenith eagle]

Doing high performance cpp not touching Microsoft java till I need to

[fossil field]

oof get on that backend grind

[zenith eagle]

No I need to do cpp grind

Think I'll just work and exercise till December

I start April

[zenith eagle]

you gas me up too much i hope u dont find out how much of a tard i am irl

[broken whale]

Issok lil bro. Get on that cpp grind

[zenith eagle]

lil bro'ing me smh

[broken whale]

[zenith eagle]

das why u still resumerejectML

and not offerletterML

[broken whale]

Real

I am a reject bro

No one wants me

[zenith eagle]

bro bay area landlords make canadian slumlords look like altruists

[broken whale]

How much rent

I pay 1k for a small ass room in Vancouver

[zenith eagle]

are u in near downtown?

regardless

[broken whale]

No

Kitsilano

[zenith eagle]

im lookin at close to 4k rents for a shanty 2b1b place that's not even near any transit

fuck me

nothing included

[broken whale]

MP?

[zenith eagle]

street parking

fuck

[broken whale]

Menlo?

[zenith eagle]

just around the area

also

like

u literally need a car to survive

it's all tiny suburban cities next to each other

no coherent transit

[broken whale]

Lmao

Ask for meta ny

Or seattle

Or sum

[zenith eagle]

i wanted nyc

sad

everyone want nyc

so it's full

also my team killer but team only in mpk

[tender coral]

Is this new grad or intern? Congrats btw

[broken whale]

Joever for bro

Prolly intern

Idk

[zenith eagle]

new grad

[broken whale]

Oh shit okok

Mb bro

Or should i say big bro

I lil bro now

[tender coral]

Any tips on how you got all these offers? Was your first internship good or bad?

[stable ravine]

bro is cracked af

[zenith eagle]

first internship doesn't matter

nor does school

but ur last internship kinda matters a bit i think

mine was good i'd say, obscure startup in ottawa

2nd was a space software company v tiny but did some interesting work

3 & 4th were shopify

4th one i wnated something diff than shop but took an L and went back to shop cuz I couldn't land anything better

[zenith eagle]

no lol this new grad search was brutal

esp shop no ng ro (for everyone even ro for interning again)

in this market super fuckign rng and fucked

also i took a lot of L's for palantir hrt citadel affirm etc

ngl my health took a turn for the worse

but glad its all over

my profile not too good but not bad either just grinded a lot

any questions ask, or if it's personal dm

tho ngl will take a while to reply i have so many fucking forms to fill and gotta find bay housing

[broken whale]

U interviewed with trading firms?

[zenith eagle]

and then flight tickets and sdhfo asfbasfpa rgewrog ergbeo gergbergpher g3r

g 3rgbharg par

[zenith eagle]

yea i took major L's lol

[broken whale]

Damn

I wish i could even land those interviews

I needa do cpp

Or it’s over for me

[zenith eagle]

i dont do lc or itnerviews in cpp

so my headlands and hrt interviews

lmao

[broken whale]

Python not taking me anywhere

[zenith eagle]

made me look like an actual scrub

no lol

python great

python for interviewing unless u at quant firms

[broken whale]

Real

[stable ravine]

he solved 4 medium/hard optimally bro thinks he's him

[broken whale]

Real i can never be him

[magic cave]

Why do you need 2 bathrooms for 1 bedroom?

[tender coral]

Appreciate your advice bro 🙏

[lapis tide]

girth?

[zenith eagle]

'bout the girth of a standard minion i'd say

[lapis tide]

proof?

[zenith eagle]

ask ur mom

[lapis tide]

she said she doesnt know you

[zenith eagle]

damn my dick so good she got brain damage

[lapis tide]

proof?

[zenith eagle]

well ure tarded, and they say that brainded women give birth to tarded children so

[lapis tide]

proof?

[zenith eagle]

my bedroom so big so 2 bathrooms one on either end so i dont need to walk so far

[magic cave]

Real shit

[kind tundra]

If i am applying for a job for fall 2024, what do I say about my position for summer 2024 on my resume if I am applying like May-Early June and my summer coop starts early May

I heard most ppl just talk abt what they are gonna build/work on and the tech stack but idk how much that helps if theres like no metrics and stuff

[sly kindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx5TKMOmZL0

[worldly ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

@sly kindle dam argentina is getting destroyed

[sly kindle]

Canada soon

Honestly the cheat code in Canada is

live with parents
become server straight out of high school

save / invest for 10 years
retire in a cheap country

[worldly ridge]

i think most cheap countries like the global south will suffer a lot of climate change issues like mexico running out of water and SEA sinking + not being able to produce corps anymore so at the end of the day you are back to Canada as a cliamte refuge

theres a reaosn why we are targeting 100 million people by 2100 🧠

asnd this is why i am going to become a slumlord with all my investments

[magic cave]

Real

How many properties are you at so far

[magic cave]

I think it's

Be born into a wealthy family

[worldly ridge]

i share my capital with blackstone, so i own life 50% of blackstones properties in toronto

i also invest in REITs to boost the housing market 🤑

[charred basin]

hey guys my friend in washington referred me for a position at her company and i just got an email saying they want to do a hr phone interview

she had referred me for position months before too and i had a similar phone interview but i was too nervous on the call

how can i do better this time

[sly kindle]

True

[worldly ridge]

u miss all the shots u dont take, good luck

[sly kindle]

I know a guy who’s family is worth hundreds of millions

[magic cave]

Maybe some escitalopram or do more practice interviews

[sly kindle]

He seems pretty happy

[charred basin]

tyty

[charred basin]

so i know what they ask on the call its just questions abt your background and experiences and why you wanna work for them and all that

[worldly ridge]

why not take xanax if ur nervous

xanax for anxiety

benzos for depression

[charred basin]

last time i didnt make it through this phone interview round so im hoping i do good this time

[lost lark]

Is working SDET as a new grad career suicide 🤔

[fossil field]

need to start looking for exit plan from here

[lost lark]

Wym

[lost lark]

I thought u liked ur job lol

[sour kindle]

ayo anyone know if quant firms like any canadian universities?

[fossil field]

i do like it and i get to do it my way but from the work im doing im getting severly underpaid and its getting exhausting going in the office 5 days a week while getting paid like shit

with the work im doing i should be getting paid 3-4x more lol and i know they wouldnt raise my pay if i dont ask so i dont like that

but ive gotten really close with upper management like ceo and cto and itll be tough to leave

but gotta do whats best for me so im gonna be reaching out to some connections

[lost lark]

Whats ur title rn

[fossil field]

my position has gotten to principal R&D

engineer

[lost lark]

In around 8 months ?

[fossil field]

5 months

4-5

[lost lark]

Wow

Yea idk if anyone would believe that on a resume

😂

[fossil field]

yea im leading and basically solo developing all current and new AI applications

meh doesnt matter lol im really capable and know my shit lol and i got connections

and people keep reaching out to me

[lost lark]

Thats good

Ig u have ur pick rn

[fossil field]

but one thing i love here is i do what i love but at the same time i do a LOT of work like the work of 5-6 devs

but getting paid like 0.5 of a dev

[lost lark]

Ngl im kinda in a similar position just not getting nearly as many reachouts 💔

[fossil field]

meh i bet reach out doesnt mean shit im banking on connections

and will have to grind as well

[lost lark]

How did you grow your network outside of linkedin

[fossil field]

going to parties and social events lol

[lost lark]

Oh

💀

[fossil field]

literally met my closest connections who can do something for me at raves

[lost lark]

Yea thats one way i guess

[fossil field]

i was serious when i said that

[lost lark]

Nah I believe you abt the rave part

Ik software engineers that love it 😂

Rock climbing too

[fossil field]

yea exactly just go out more and be social

and you will build connections left and right

[lost lark]

Yea thats not the difficult part

Just looking for ideas

My good connections arent hiring 😭

And linkedin is hot garbage rn

[fossil field]

get you a connections that can make a spot for u in the team even if its full lol

meaning building connections with people who have influence

[lost lark]

Yea managers vps the like

[fossil field]

welp so i got 2 plans, 1 is to work on my quant trading bot and get $$$ through there and look for new jobs

[lost lark]

I need more of those 💔

[fossil field]

yea managers too but also people who know those people like peeps in tech sales know cfo and all that shit who can get you in

and you prove youre smart and they will want you

but you cant go in not having anything on the table

[lost lark]

Id rather start my own business at that point 😂😂😂😂

[fossil field]

thats much harder lol trust me

takes a while before you get any $

i mean if u live with parents and have no expenses then go for it

[worldly ridge]

ur literaly carrying the company andre

principal

did you get promoted from new grad to principal in a span of a few moinths lol

[fossil field]

junior to principal

and yes

just cause i came in with the most knowledge about AI then anyone in the company

since it wasnt really an AI focused company more of a fintech and they are starting to incorporate these tools just as i come in

so yea i basically do R&D all day and manage this whole project with like 15 people

its a lot of fucking work and im getting exhausted now i need more money for the work im doing

its fun for sure and cool to work on it but again its a LOT of fucking work now

[azure junco]

did they bump your pay when you got the new title

[sly kindle]

Just talked to some guys in the sauna, they’re pissed off about what’s happening to Canada too. Very refreshing to hear people brave enough to talk about it in person

[lost lark]

That barely narrows it down ngl 😭

Theres so much wrong with this country

[fossil field]

no thats my issue, more work but same pay

if you are given an opportunity and thrive in it you can do anything...

thats just what my responsibilites are

[signal garden]

you’re a clown if you actually think you deserve principal after half a year

[magic cave]

Nah Andre is a top-tier dev

[fossil field]

haha i never said i deserved it i just stepped up to the role and was assertive

youre a clown if u do the bare minimum

[magic cave]

But now you're getting doing more work for the same pay 😮‍💨

[fossil field]

yea but im building crazy experience and knowledge and actually love what i do

and im showing my value to the company so when i do say i want to leave they would counter offer to keep me there

thats the plan, get another offer and leverage that for major increase in pay

[magic cave]

😮‍💨

[worldly ridge]

damm they beter pay you quadriple

wtf

how much was your rasie

oh wait they didnt...

i talked to some boomers in the spas doug ford has and its pretty refreshing to hear that they think real estate is going to be bullish as i am overleveraged in real estate with my 300th HELOC.

⛔ 🐻

[magic cave]

I need a bear 😮‍💨

[ivory pond]

How do I make it

[runic lion]

Do you guys know where to find intern jobs for new grads?

I see most of the intern jobs are for coop students who are still staying at school

[tight gale]

In canada there's a stipulation that you are returning to do a another sem at school

Idk about USA

[runic lion]

Yea exactly I am in Canada

I am a new grad but I still am open to interns jobs but most of them are for students

[magic cave]

Why though?

They pay like shit

[lapis tide]

what if they pay more than 90095.45

[runic lion]

I mean I can still look for better jobs while working right

[fossil field]

no intern jobs for graduates in canada

they take coops from school since they get rebates for taking on students

they only do that to save on money

[runic lion]

there is a few tbh, I guess not so many

yea

[fossil field]

very unlikely you will land intern as a new grad

[runic lion]

true

[magic cave]

What if you just go back to school

22 jump street

[lost lark]

Oh brother

[turbid crater]

Anyone from ubc wants to sublet their rooms 🥹

[fossil field]

what side projects have you guy been working on?

and are you guys trying to monetize them?

[magic cave]

I'm making AI asian girls

But it's for my own thing

[hot rapids]

wait you work at a fintech company? I thought it was a computer store like memory express or newegg

[hot rapids]

brother I hope those ai asian girls are not for ur cumcoin3000

[fossil field]

thats one part of the business but the main part is fintech

[hot rapids]

is it like affirm, but you hold inventory?

[fossil field]

so yes similar to affirm but we have many dealers and we also sell some of our own

but main focus is on financing

and we keep expanding so now we will be just like affirm for any business to put on their site

[sly snow]

has anyone done a veeva new grad team day? or have one coming up?

[hallow sapphire]

theres tons

go to the ubc housing facebook page

@fossil field name?

[turbid crater]

What if I’m scared of scams 🫨

[hallow sapphire]

if its from a student

you need to sign a form

and it goes through ubc iirc

but regardless

just don't pay deposits

viewing fees

etc

without seeing a place

or signing a contract

[turbid crater]

Thank you

[worldly ridge]

@fossil field why dont u just make ur own buisness

with the ai knowledge

copy their buisness model and change it or sumtin

boom 100% of the profit goes to u

[magic cave]

They are

[weak gazelle]

hey andre

dm for fintech opportunity

we're looking for principle engineers who specialize in AI applications

[worldly ridge]

no one wants to work at gaotecy

[midnight valve]

did Shopify even interview anyone this year?

[fossil field]

its not. its a fintech. Main source of revenue is financing

[fossil field]

cant, everything i write here is company property and if i use it i can get in legal trouble lol but i know 1000 different ways to implement what i did so i could technically

[drifting shore]

loo

[worldly ridge]

yeah why dont ud ot hat

[magic cave]

Now I defiintely don't believe he's a principal engineer

Bro just called [redacted] fintech

😂 😂 😂 😂

MoneyMart is more of a fintech company than his current

[fossil field]

lol.

ur an unemployed clown

you still trolling on here instead of working? good use of time

no hate to anyone else thats unemployed

[pallid reef]

is anybody here in the process with Swiss re?

[magic cave]

Does my employment status change the weight of my words?

Why do you think I'm so familiar with MoneyMart 🥱

[fossil field]

nah i get it

but we are a fintech thats what i was told in my interview

who going to sara landry saturday

[halcyon arrow]

Never heard

No big names this month

[fossil field]

tf sara landry is big name

[stable ravine]

wer job

@fossil field I went to random office and dropped my resume no call backs, what am I doing wrong? 😭

[magic cave]

Wait I did that today lol

[fossil field]

keep it up

the more u do the higher chances

im proud of u guys for real

[lunar sandal]

can u tell me what kinda architecture ur ML ecosystem uses

shud be ez breezy for a seasoned principal such as yourself

[fossil field]

yea so essentially its a RAG pipeline involving multipe gpt agents

using langchain and a bunch of other libraries as well as built my own for ease of use cause langchain can be pain in ass

conntecting to multiple dbs with one being vectore store

and i built the logic on an api so you can call from different applications our company uses

[lunar sandal]

so u dont use message queues..

or any logging even

[fossil field]

i do for customers

lol yes i am logging everything

[lunar sandal]

ah ok

[fossil field]

literally every cent use

yea i built it to production spec

[lunar sandal]

u got a lot to learn young padawan

[fossil field]

had to do my best on it since i lead it

tf bro

i know more than you will in 10 years

[lunar sandal]

but its cool u getting this much responsibility

ur company prolly dont got the $$ to bring in someone with the smarts

[fossil field]

lol

nah they do they just cheap

but whateva i get crazy experience i never would at other companies

and so much responsibility so it will only make me better, pay cut for now but experience booming then next job will be crazy pay bump

hows ur job going?

[lunar sandal]

im in school..

starting may..

[fossil field]

lol ur mouth too big

[lunar sandal]

12 months at big name

[fossil field]

but i see ur joking lol

[lunar sandal]

im not

[fossil field]

ahahahah

u dont know shit

[lunar sandal]

i alr did ML when u were a fetus

[fossil field]

i did too...

this isnt my first project lol

[lunar sandal]

im just kidding bro wtf

this was a test

[fossil field]

okay bro dont do this to me

i get trolled too much

[lunar sandal]

by ur own company

[fossil field]

FUCK

[lunar sandal]

i am at ur company rn

i am in ur org.

[fossil field]

raise?

[lunar sandal]

im on the slack channels

and im in ur walls

[fossil field]

hahah no slack

fraud

no but i love ml ive been building ml apps since i was 17

[lunar sandal]

😲

[stable ravine]

andre knows that you're unemployed stop trolling

[drifting shore]

unemployed peasant

[worldly ridge]

gemini ur so cute

i want to hug you

[magic cave]

Thank god he knows my employment status

[fallen mason]

Do you guys ever hear back from linkedin apps?

or anywhere outside co-op

[magic cave]

No one responds to LinkedIn apps

You gotta apply on the company's website

[azure junco]

out of curiosity can I ask how many environments you guys have

[worldly ridge]

one

production

[drifting shore]

0% response rate from LinkedIn

[magic cave]

Actually it's undefined

Because I don't apply on LinkedIn because of that reason

[boreal sorrel]

i just got 1 after a linked app on the same day

[magic cave]

Different build

I've hit double digit applications

It's over for me, isn't it 😮‍💨

[azure junco]

how big double digit

after 15 it's over

if you are at like 10 or 11 it's possible

[lapis tide]

14 thankfully

[magic cave]

Actually I'm 13

[worldly ridge]

your cooked

[magic cave]

What should I transfer to

Business?

[worldly ridge]

my kitchen

[magic cave]

Do you think I can make it as a League player

[worldly ridge]

Thanks for telling me your fantasy salary, but this is the real world. Cheers kid. Learn to weld

[magic cave]

What about being a diver

I heard they can make 1500 a day

[worldly ridge]

I’ll be fine with my 290k TC ng job kid. You may be cooked tho 🙏🏿

@bleak vortex

stop deleting

i am onto you chum

[fossil field]

Wym by environments

Be more specific

[azure junco]

Dev, prod, uat, staging etc

each company has a different system

[fossil field]

Dev and prod

Actually 3 if you count local

[magic cave]

Who tf counts local

[fossil field]

Not u cause u don’t work

[magic cave]

I would exclusively count local if I didn't owrk

[fossil field]

🥱

[azure junco]

You because since you are unemployed you don't have access to a dev environment

[worldly ridge]

did you file your taxes recently?

no u didntt because ur unemployed

perhaps try ontario works to get your government benefits for lazy people

[magic cave]

You didn't even read all of my lore

I'm McGill University

[fresh fog]

Many people I know got a job that way

but since you wanna talk in extremes, do as you which

[magic cave]

Are we talking about jobs that are posted on LinkedIn or jobs that you apply on LinkedIn?

[fresh fog]

yes

[azure junco]

I got an interview for a swe job via linkedin easy apply but it turned out the job paid minimum wage

[drifting shore]

all my interviews were from directly applying on the company's website

[fresh fog]

soo ?

I'm not saying it's the best place to apply. There's very low chance someone is gonna get a job that way but I don't agree with people who talk in extreme and tell you not to do something

[buoyant sage]

Does anyone know the interview process for a swe2 position at Intuit? I got a call from a recruiter and they want to go ahead with the first round. Was wondering the difficulty level and what areas to cover ?

[magic cave]

I got you

[spice herald]

How to know if my zon offer is for amazon or AWS? Is that sth I would know later on?

[tacit stag]

Anyone get Snowflake SWE intern OA?

Or have done it before

[drifting shore]

everyone

prep dp

[tacit stag]

Im going to get clapped by it

Might just be over

[azure junco]

Learn to do dp in c++ or it's joever

[spice herald]

I just got the offer yesterday and it doesn't specify the team or org. I know that I'll get to know my hiring manager in a few weeks

[quartz ridge]

Has anyone gotten a new grad offer

[spice herald]

I want to join AWS more than amazon

[quartz ridge]

I been trying to cook up a new grad offer but it’s still raw

[sly kindle]

mine is raw still @quartz ridge

[quartz ridge]

Have you tried cooking?

[sly kindle]

Yeahsir

[charred basin]

guys

is it a good sign if the recruiter tells me about the next rounds at the end of a call ?

[sly kindle]

Meh. I’ve had that lead to both continuing and rejections

Doesn’t have any correlation

[charred basin]

i see

it was a very quick call i had prepared a lot but she didnt ask many questions but did tell me that the next round is gonna be a 1hr technical if im selected

[spice herald]

Wanna work on cloud services, not a strong preference tho

Also the RO is higher in AWS

[charred basin]

tbf she isnt my main recruiter but she will be sending the notes she took from the call to the main recruiter

[drifting shore]

aws interns hav aws as the company name

no ro for some orgs in zon

[sour vessel]

i did too

[charred basin]

how was it

[tacit stag]

yeah the deadline aint till the 30th im procrastinating 🕊️

[charred basin]

same

i just got it today

[sour vessel]

i just saw the email

[charred basin]

ah

im thinking of doing it next friday

[sour vessel]

i see, good luck

[charred basin]

thank you, you too

ive got the citadel due on the 23rd so im gonna do that first

[sour vessel]

damnnn

[charred basin]

will a company reject me for requiring sponsorship in the us

not even a tn but a h1-b

since im not canadian or mexican

the call i just had was for a company in the usa , my friend referred me for a swe position i think i did well overall in the call but only the sponsorship part is scaring me

[spice herald]

Like on the initial offer letter?

[drifting shore]

ye, might get assigned to aws later tho

[spice herald]

I hope that happens. I know that the letter will be updated with my HM and team in a couple of weeks

Just wanna try it out, but mostly because higher RO for NG

[halcyon arrow]

https://financialpost.com/real-estate/mortgages/mortgage-rates/bank-of-canada-rate-cut-watchers-look-past-summer

coding job seekers should do the same

[halcyon arrow]

No?

[charred basin]

interesting how you deleted it now

[halcyon arrow]

Huh?

[tall pawn]

do you guys here have a link to a ufot server. ill be looking for housing this summer in toronto for my coop

need to sublet

[lilac wagon]

Did anyone take the interview from Infoblox for new grad sde?

[magic cave]

Interested in sublet as well add me

[magic cave]

At least you're on Discord less 🙏🏿

[magic cave]

Can you review my graph

I am projecting BTC to 140000 CAD by 2027

[worldly ridge]

carpe diem

[magic cave]

I'm genuinely down 10k

[worldly ridge]

fugazi

[signal sail]

Just received an OA from trend micro? Anyone ever attempted one recently ?

[worldly ridge]

Make your lives extraordinary. That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse. Only in their dreams can men be truly free. 'Twas always thus, and always thus will be.

[weak gazelle]

thoughts?

[magic cave]

UofC over McMaster and McGill

🤨

[noble field]

wtf is university of victoria

half of these arent real schools

[zenith eagle]

Can you give me one BTC

[zenith eagle]

Slander

[zenith eagle]

School is a school dawg it don't matter too much

Don't be elitist

UVic is great, my cracked manager was from there

[weak gazelle]

fax

[zenith eagle]

Also beautiful campus, and the birds there are also great

Plus Vancouver Island

Legit vibessssss

I feel like after COVID big tech stopped off szn recruiting

But also having taken courses at 3 of those unis I was certainly the opposite at every one

[normal jetty]

Big facts

[zenith eagle]

Acc where did you find this lol

Oh it's vcbrags

Great twitter account

[charred basin]

me from ubc

[quartz ridge]

Is it too late to get a new grad job?

[noble field]

It definitely matters much more now than it used to

[zenith eagle]

That's just copium

I'm a Carleton kid I've had no issues with interviews at top companies

[magic cave]

@zenith eagle he only blocks high income devs 🥱

[lapis tide]

apple sheep

[noble field]

You can definitely do well anywhere you go but being at a better school just gives you that slight leg up

[quartz ridge]

Meekle

[zenith eagle]

Slight but I don't think it's enough to do anything

Like I was previously a uoft kid and lemme tell you that didn't mean shit

Also if you have 0 experience but attend uoft/loo/UBC/McGill/CMU/MIT I don't think it means anything for getting interviews or offers

[noble field]

Ye but I’m saying comparing a first year at all schools if no one has experience the one factor that differentiates you is your school

[zenith eagle]

My friends at CMU and MIT have told me it hasn't really made a difference

Anecdotal sure but the market is so fucked I think

[noble field]

Not looking good

[zenith eagle]

Yea super scuffed rn

Only ppl really Bloomin are peeps with return offers

Idk about internships but it's still bad not ro pe bad

But new grad is wayyyy worse literal wasteland

There the only winners are return offer holders

And those who managed to get an offer

I've somehow managed to interview with many places I could care to list them but for some reason or another stuff didn't work out

Even when you did everything right like ng class cut in half or just cut entirely

Or recruiter laid off/interviewer laid off

You applied an hour too late etc

And like it's such a buyers (as in companies buying the services of new grads) market that why would companies not drop you even for a tiny slip up

You gotta be pitch perfect and even then it's sooooo badd

Definitely not exclusively a non LIRP economic phenomenon I think the pandemic financial correction plus no more LIRP is really fucking the market up

VC money drying, so no startups

Nor are they expanding

Low consumer and business spending so no big corporations that is if they haven't laid off

At the price of a junior dev you can prolly find a senior dev

And cherry on top AI advancements that seem to be progressing at break neck speeds and the e/acc becoming a reality so fucking fast

Feels like yesterday chatgpt came out now we have copilot, and more. And then cognition labs releases Devin

[lapis tide]

ok mr 90x faang

[zenith eagle]

It's super fucked so don't get disheartened

Just gotta keep plugging away

[zenith eagle]

I'm getting replaced by AI anyway so 😭

For you not too late to switch to trade school

[lapis tide]

funny and original joke

[worldly ridge]

did you guys not get the memo

happy st pats guys

[zenith eagle]

My roomie dropped out from CS is now happily employed and bing chilling and money making maxxing as an electrician

[quartz ridge]

Let’s just say this

New grad is impossible

Unless ur previously interned at big N

[zenith eagle]

I'm gonna revert to my first career aspirations I've ever had I wanted to be a train driver/engineer

[quartz ridge]

Otherwise u will be unemployed until 2025 minimum….

[zenith eagle]

Choo choo mfer

[quartz ridge]

That’s all I’m going to say

If you have no previous big tech experience and u graduate

[zenith eagle]

No lol

[quartz ridge]

In 2023 or 2024

There are 0 chances

[zenith eagle]

It's not impossible just v v hard

I would make 2 year old me soo fucking happy if I choo choo maxxed

What is your 2 year old career aspiration

[worldly ridge]

Is gaotek hiring?

[quartz ridge]

theres only one way

to actually get big tech

[quartz ridge]

no. we had like 8 interns but hiring freeze