canada

[boreal sorrel]

an hr

depending on ur coop exp

[quartz ridge]

90k

I believe

Which is pretty insane

Most ng wont even make 90

[boreal sorrel]

yeah its looking like that for me too

[quartz ridge]

Do u have any offer

I grad last year

No offer yet

Still looking

[boreal sorrel]

no offer pff but im sure by the june ill get something, just interviewing at diff places

its my last sem rn

[quartz ridge]

Waterloo?

[boreal sorrel]

nah

[quartz ridge]

Carlton

Or where

U of T

York

[boreal sorrel]

not ontario, western canada rip

[quartz ridge]

I want to dissect u

SFU?

[boreal sorrel]

why haha

[quartz ridge]

Curious mate

[boreal sorrel]

berta

[quartz ridge]

Oh

UA?

😃

Isn’t U of A a huge intuit feeder

[boreal sorrel]

intuit is focusing for toronto rn

[quartz ridge]

I wish

[boreal sorrel]

so yeg is not it

[quartz ridge]

I heard they can pay 30+

[boreal sorrel]

well over

for ng

[quartz ridge]

I mean for an intern only

[quartz ridge]

have u interned anywhere?

before

or not really

[boreal sorrel]

yeah currently at a startup, faang, fortune 500

[quartz ridge]

Wow

Faang Amazon right

[boreal sorrel]

no

[rancid wolf]

Yeah I meant ng

anybody done veeva hiring manager round semi-recently for toronto ng? Need to know how scuffed it'll be, supposedly partially a technical round and not just behavioural

[noble field]

Manulife pays much more than 25 for interns bretheren

[sly kindle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoJobs/comments/1b1yxyc/why_you_cant_find_a_job/?share_id=WYV3mu_A-2wcye1ac5aMZ&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

In Q3 2023, 47,284 LMIA's were approved in Canada

Could you imagine where wages would be without all this BS immigration?
Line cook would pay $35 an hour + benefits + pension

[worldly ridge]

ya but how else could my boss get cheap and very explotable labor

[weak gazelle]

the students who go to diploma mills

its either this LMIA stuff or student at diploma mills

[worldly ridge]

is uoft one of them?

uoft === diploma mill

[weak gazelle]

mods can we ban this individual

thanks

[worldly ridge]

connestogae college > uw > garbage> uoft

:3

[weak gazelle]

i mean canada did do the 35 percent reduction so that should hopefully shut down diploma mills

most immigration to canada ends up bottom tier cuz of it

[weak gazelle]

where is wilfred laurier

[worldly ridge]

why r u bringing up a school beside uw and conestoage

thats even more garbage

[weak gazelle]

what uw

?

i only know wlu

lol

[worldly ridge]

senaca college, ryerson, uoft or york

which has more prestige?

[weak gazelle]

TMU

TMU > York > Seneca

never heard of UofT

[worldly ridge]

wrong

[weak gazelle]

so idk much about it

[worldly ridge]

the answer is senaca

@fossil field back me up

this fool cornered me

[weak gazelle]

didnt' Andre graduate waterloo SE

[worldly ridge]

yeah hes from uw

why

[weak gazelle]

i dont think he will entertain you wasting his time

liek this

@worldly ridge

it's irresponsible

[worldly ridge]

andre is my boy

you are my opp

[weak gazelle]

[drifting shore]

Where queens?

[worldly ridge]

under the kings rule

[magic cave]

It's $50

Don't ask me how I know I'm offerless

[quartz ridge]

its not 50 for manulife

lol

no chance.

[magic cave]

I didn't reply to your message about manulife

[quartz ridge]

ok man

thank you for contribution

[magic cave]

Well you said Intuit is 30+ for interns

So I replied saying 50, because the difference between 50 and 30+ is a lot

[rapid bolt]

anyone been through the L1 visa process?

[quartz ridge]

Not 50 for intern

I don’t think that’s possible except wish coinbase

[magic cave]

Amazon?

[quartz ridge]

Wish coinbase zon

Yeah a couple

Not intuit

Intuit is just average

It’s tax software

[magic cave]

I had an intuit offer in my hands

It was 104k

[lapis tide]

congrats

[magic cave]

😦

[quartz ridge]

For full time maybe

[magic cave]

Still can't tell if this guy is trolling me

[quartz ridge]

Okay are you in the US?

[sly kindle]

What happened?

[magic cave]

Declined

Needed more

No reloc bonus

Yeah I'm in the US that's why I'm selecting queries from #canada

[quartz ridge]

Okay then explain why I know someone who got 75k at intuit

Why they offering you 105k?

[magic cave]

Drop their stats

And team

I go to the most prestigious school in Canada

I'm ex-Zon with 3 previous internships and have a 225 bench

[sly kindle]

looool fr?

in this market 104k would be splendid

[magic cave]

Zon was like 120

Iirc

[sly kindle]

So did u accept zon?

[magic cave]

Last year yeah 😔

[lost lark]

So uoft 😭

[sly kindle]

looooool this guy comes in here to flex

[magic cave]

Fully remote is worth it imo

[sly kindle]

is that even a question?

[magic cave]

Maybe if he's currently at a unicorn

Wait the RSUs are at the new company

But also jumping after a year is sometimes a red flag

[drifting shore]

wat company pays 140k base for ng in canada?

[quartz ridge]

he has a 315 bench, ex-Citi ex-f 50, top 3 school

got offered 75k @magic cave

top 1 school vs 4 internships doenst equal 104k

also he bench mogs you

[magic cave]

Right 🥱

[quartz ridge]

screenshot your offer letter

[magic cave]

My bw is 160

[quartz ridge]

he's 170

trained for 3 years

natty

[magic cave]

I'm 1.5 years

[quartz ridge]

but he has t-rex arms

[magic cave]

5'4

[quartz ridge]

5'4

bro no way

u are my gnome

how are u tc mogging me

when i'm 2 inches taller than u

[quartz ridge]

kms

thankfully i have my tesla model Y and a dime in the backseat

[magic cave]

Are you actually 5'6?

[quartz ridge]

yeah lol

i feel pretty short

especially not that people are getting taller on average

like i have to go back to japan

to feel normal height ish

or philipine

[weak gazelle]

[magic cave]

I'm 5'11

[fossil field]

TMU is like last lmao york is definitely better. york rank 350th globally and TMU like 1400+

[weak gazelle]

💀

imagine comparing ranks > 100

doesn't matter any more lil bro

[fossil field]

bruh 1400 and 350 is big difference

[weak gazelle]

Andre stop

[fossil field]

dumbass

makes sense u went to tmu

[weak gazelle]

💀

lmfao

[fossil field]

lol

[weak gazelle]

TMU >>>>>>>>>>>> York

[magic cave]

Would you rather go to Conestoga or Athabasca

[weak gazelle]

Andre

[fossil field]

funny

[weak gazelle]

Athabasca isnt a university

[fossil field]

neither lol i would learn on my own

[weak gazelle]

athabasca is like coursera

lol

[fossil field]

not reputable at all

better than tmu tho

[weak gazelle]

peopel get transfer credits there

[magic cave]

Neither of them are universities 🫥

[weak gazelle]

yea but you're comparing different stuff

it should be more like

conestoga vs york

more comparable

@fossil field thoughts?

@magic cave why :face_with_clouds:

in*

[magic cave]

You're throwing shade right?

[weak gazelle]

no lol

it's an actual legit comparison

..

[magic cave]

Like York is a real university so the comparison is absurd and you're talking down

[weak gazelle]

but TMU >. York?

[magic cave]

Idk what TMU is

[weak gazelle]

ryerson

[magic cave]

I actually don't even know what York is

[weak gazelle]

but they had to change name or else they get sued for more than they worth

@magic cave sorry for talking down. your uni
iw as just throwing shade at @fossil field

who thinks he's better than everybody cuz he graduated loo SE

[magic cave]

I go to Athabasca

[dense moss]

yo chat am I cooked?

[ruby ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1202747826946310235.webp?size=64

[lost lark]

Athabasca 😍😍😍

[weak gazelle]

ur York grad?

[stable ravine]

unb>>>tmu>>loo

[quartz ridge]

I’ll just say this once

Good night

[stable ravine]

I'm from vancouver

#!/bin/bash
cur_hr=$(date +%H)

if [ "$cur_hr" = "00" ]; then
    echo "Good night! Sweet dreams."
fi

[quartz ridge]

Can u explain this code…

[stable ravine]

thats a bash script, can you please remove ml suffix

EC2 t2.micro would be apt

[quartz ridge]

What does code do?

[stable ravine]

ask chatgpt

[boreal sorrel]

for apple?

[worldly ridge]

it dosent matter what school ur going into

we will all be unemployed in this market

[magic cave]

McGill diffs

[proud coyote]

does anyone know when uoft summer res tells u if they have a room for u? (non uoft student for full summer term)

[quartz ridge]

Just remove your suffix soon…. You don’t know about Ec2 power

[quartz ridge]

Is 2024 hiring bar higher than normal or am I doing a trip?

Is it worth it to learn a new language like Prolog or Fortran or Pascal or a functional language like Scala?

What’s better for a future looking vision?

[quartz ridge]

?

[magic cave]

No qualifications and already setting requirements

Some people here are working for 0/hr

[quartz ridge]

For real

Sounds like a incoming at Mozilla or scale ai

Kinda person

[worldly ridge]

its acutaly over

just say its a recesion

[crystal comet]

is that even legal in canada

[magic cave]

@weak gazelle

[worldly ridge]

my company went from 3 rounds of itnerview to 5 rounds for NGs

definitly higher bar

i hate this field

so many hoops to jump to get a job

hopefully by the end of htis year

yeah its going up but a lot of people are also getting laid off

so it balances it out ig :l

[night wave]

hiring at the entry level is def up this year from last, we are just competing w more and better ppl

[quartz ridge]

100% feels higher

Entry level is way harder and so is intern

It’s like easy for senior

[kind stag]

Canada?

[worldly ridge]

this is global iirc or atleast publicly traded tech companies and western startups

no way canada has 210k job openings

[kind stag]

Oic

Man I wanted to apply for cbc

But they require french

[kind stag]

You see

We are unemployed

[rancid wolf]

Dooming is a FT occupation

[magic cave]

Hey don't rope all of us with you

[rancid wolf]

anybody here done an OA for huawei full-time before?

[quartz ridge]

No I haven’t

But I heard they pay 90k

[boreal sorrel]

which role

[rancid wolf]

some recruiter reached out to me, the OA says distributed data labs / AI team

[boreal sorrel]

dm me

[magic cave]

Do not listen to his salary estimates 😬

[lapis tide]

please do not drop misinformation

simply query for recipients of your queries should you have any doubts

[quartz ridge]

My salary estimation is accurate

[quartz ridge]

You spew nonsense make a 104k claim

[magic cave]

What difference does $8000 make?
96000 is 49/hr which rounds to 50/hr which is 104k

I'm not hung up on remembering all these numbers

[midnight valve]

anyone know 1password pay for a 4th coop specifically

[quartz ridge]

8k is enough for some people to pay rent for one whole year

Just because you are rich doesn’t mean you can flex your wealth with arrogance

Your net worth doesn’t define your worth….

[wheat comet]

i want to get like you guys one day

how to ?

[ashen mason]

Yes it do. Have you ever browsed Blind?

[lucid loom]

smash ur head a lot

[quartz ridge]

No I don’t. I will say like this one time. Passion trump money. Economy is bad but passion prevail got it?

[magic cave]

8k is two months for me

[quartz ridge]

Even if stocks drop you’re pride is up, you win

[quartz ridge]

I don’t respect the high ego coders they refuse to learn people skills…

[magic cave]

Gov takes 25% child support is 50% I'm left with 3k

[quartz ridge]

You are not prudent. Don’t flex income when people are struggle. Low meek approach and quite insensitive

Not everyone just grind the leetcode geek4geek daily like your schedule

Some people want to learn low level compiler or true learning register loading

Don’t spread misinfo….

[wheat comet]

exactly. learn socialability, oop, and how to raise meek, then maybe wealth will go up automatically

[quartz ridge]

Great point… you earn suffix if you want…

[wheat comet]

i remove suffix to remain humble.

[quartz ridge]

Thank you surely… you spread good wisdom to our community

Foster compiler theory and strong human constructs.

[azure junco]

@quartz ridge what is your favourite OS concept

[quartz ridge]

My favourite OS is scheduler….

Compiler is primary… secondary gun if meek

[azure junco]

what is your favourite scheduling policy ?

[lapis tide]

my favourite policy is dont ask dont tell

[azure junco]

poorly thought out answer. i would not give job at Gaotek. You're stuck at cohere for now...

[boreal sentinel]

does anyone work at wealthsiple

why is ur tax filing broken

i cant add a t4a form

[worldly ridge]

why r u askinga bunch of unemployed people'

theyd ont know how to file taxes

[boreal sentinel]

i thought someone here interns wealthsimple

[worldly ridge]

good on u for filing tax early though

[azure junco]

can't believe u guys get t4's so early

[worldly ridge]

wait how many people here are role playing as unemployed

[quartz ridge]

Probably round robin

[azure junco]

i will accept it. but i think multi level feedback queue would is a scheduling policy so we can hold professional difference of opinions

[azure junco]

i have never roleplayed as unemployed

i have always been open about my employment status

[worldly ridge]

right you work at RBC 🤮

[azure junco]

this is misinformatio

[magic cave]

I need a job so bad

[azure junco]

i work at cohere

[magic cave]

I added my T4A without issue, but it was through CRA

[worldly ridge]

gaotek > homeless > cohere

[quartz ridge]

Gaotek is prob at least as good as Arctic wolf

Let’s talk practically and in terms of resume value alright?

No hypotheticals just raw one versus one learning and resume value comparison

[azure junco]

gaotek is probably on the same levle as maybe a lower-tier faang like google or meta if we're talking raw 1v1

[quartz ridge]

I’d have to disagree. Gaotek isn’t Faang tier is close to some place like Cisco or Antarctic wolf

Still pretty high up but let’s be realistic u know what I mean?

[azure junco]

yeah i understand what you're saying

i just know that they raised their bar recently

so i thought it would be closer to faang

[quartz ridge]

Maybe yeah you have good points… I like the way your brain moves with fluidity

[lapis tide]

please cease this veiled insulting

[tender coral]

Why does your English proficiency change sometimes?

One day you talk with perfect English and then suddenly you talk like it’s your fifth language? Is it on purpose?

[quartz ridge]

It undulate depend on mooring

You catch my drifting?

[fleet ledge]

Hey folks! Quick one - heard anything about TD giving callback dates for last summer's interns? Cheers for any info! 🌞

[tender coral]

Not really lmao

[wheat comet]

basically, language speaking changes depdning on time and other factor. lake water level go up down with tides, weather et cetera, same like brain function. which determine language skill.

[abstract basin]

are 8 month internships sometimes offered in fall (from sept - may) or are they more commonly hiring in summer

[quartz ridge]

yes this explanation capture essence in nature flora fauna analogy. Thank for the shed natural light on dubious topical. Tropical ending for the fellow @tender coral

@wheat comet I explain the brain function sinusoid well?

[wheat comet]

please proceed.

topical application of natural light on fellow cranial surface is reccomend for good health and vitamin D3 production to upregulate grey matter in brain

[worldly ridge]

press x to continue

[quartz ridge]

Ok think of analogy like this

I break down logic of linguistic change on day to day

[fossil field]

wtf you guys talking about

[quartz ridge]

So English is language with intricacy lot nuance lot jargon lot grammar lot syntax right

Think about a person emotion

Emotion embed in language

Language with convolution and syntactic sugar

Of course his proficiency change on quotidian basis

Right?

AndreML back me upright now

Andre?

[fossil field]

In this realm, quantum entanglement weaves a tapestry of security, where each transaction, ensnared in the web of qubits, becomes a Gordian knot, impervious to the swords of conventional hacking methodologies. Yet, the plot thickens as we introduce the concept of quantum decryption algorithms. These arcane scripts, capable of unraveling the Gordian knot with the ease of Alexander, pose a paradoxical threat to the quantum blockchain itself, heralding an era of cryptographic cat and mouse, where the boundaries of privacy and vulnerability blur in a dance of shadows.

Furthermore, consider the Schrödinger's blockchain, where a transaction is simultaneously existent and non-existent until observed, challenging the very fabric of financial trust. This quantum financial system, oscillating between realms of reality and potentiality, demands a new breed of observer, one equipped with the lens of quantum consciousness, to discern the state of digital affairs.

[fossil field]

right

[tender coral]

His varying levels of English language proficiency

[quartz ridge]

Do u get my explanation

[wheat comet]

Great explaining @quartz ridge . i did not know EC2 had so much knowledg. now surely we will arrive at tropical ending for the fellow @tender coral

[tender coral]

Your explanation was crazy and convoluted lmao 🤣 I’m asking why your grasp of the English language changes daily

[magic cave]

My vocab at daily standup vs larping on Discord

[dawn tusk]

Did anyone interview for C++ role siemens?

[surreal owl]

Workday vs 1password

[echo latch]

1password imo

[analog current]

^

[surreal owl]

Manifesting pls

Workday ain't optimal for me fking 8 mo

Wot

My wday team is kotlin react

Seems like the 1pass is using Go or some shit

[kind hazel]

1pass does use go

very few company in canada that hires go dev

[boreal sorrel]

what’s up

[dark wren]

anyone interviewed with Ripple before?

[dawn tusk]

Sent dm

[robust pond]

Anyone interning at Ecrisson Ottawa this Summer? Please DM

[vivid fiber]

You could technically leave after 4 months if you dont mind losing the RO

[quartz ridge]

Do it for meek tbh 1pass is good

[halcyon arrow]

https://bnnbreaking.com/finance-nav/business/canada-life-to-outsource-it-jobs-to-hcltech-aiming-for-technological-evolution

[halcyon arrow]

I worked for a competitor and got rejected by 1p afterwards

[surreal owl]

Nah I'm intl and I have to jump thru tons of hoops for workday to work out lol so 1pass is prolly the play

Just wondering which had more clout for next recruiting season

[quartz ridge]

yeah 1pass is better i think?

its a unicorn

but isnt 1pass rly low hiring bar?

i heard its just behavioural

is that true or not @surreal owl

[surreal owl]

yeah

1 round 45 min behav

[quartz ridge]

Yeah that is light

[surreal owl]

yee just trying to get them to speed up their decision cuz wday told me today i got offer

[kind stag]

@surreal owl new grad?

[surreal owl]

intern

[kind stag]

Where can I see the postings

[surreal owl]

intern i think is gone

not sure about ng

[kind stag]

There is no ng

😦

[wheat comet]

good morning

[stone osprey]

time to doom?

[wheat comet]

nothing else to do

[magic cave]

It's Friday

Classes are over I've started day drinking already

[sly kindle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoJobs/comments/1b3s30s/international_students_lines_up_for_a_job_at_a/

[worldly ridge]

have you seen the kingston clinic liine up yesterday

reminds me of that

https://globalnews.ca/news/10323335/hundreds-line-up-doctor-kingston/

[sly kindle]

I should have been a doctor

[worldly ridge]

nah housing and rental infaltion would probably make u in the same spot by the time u finish schooling

[sly kindle]

What is the hope for the average Joe

[worldly ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/you-will-own-nothing-and-gif-21597694

[eager haven]

did splunk not have summer 2024 swe intern postings this year or did i miss it

[stone osprey]

i dont think they had it

or i am tripping

[frozen sleet]

From the thread apparently they’re done for this summer…

[midnight sequoia]

Are there any Canada based return intern for Affirm in this group?

Or Canadian NG for Affirm

[azure wren]

anyone have any experience/info on success rates when applying into the US vs strictly Canada?

[wheat comet]

Anyone here have a list of US companies that sponsor for interns ?

[quartz ridge]

Toucan.AI

I think sponsors

Quick query

Is 21/hour considered average for intern? Just got a reach out from Sanctuary AI

They provide this salary range for me…

[wheat comet]

thanking your contribution

[wheat comet]

low relative to what i've heard, unless maybe its first experience

[quartz ridge]

What’s considered normal range?

I have 1 previous experience

[wheat comet]

id say like 30

[quartz ridge]

At a Cisco level company (Gaotek)

[wheat comet]

or high 20

[quartz ridge]

I thought it was 20-25

Maybe inflation has caught up to me

[wheat comet]

maybe it is, low 30 is just my anecdote

[lapis tide]

congrats

[wheat comet]

sanctuary pretty small start up tho

[stone osprey]

21 is meh

[wheat comet]

how many linkedin followers do they have

[quartz ridge]

Not sure

Kinaxis has lots of LinkedIn followers

They’re a top company but only pay 20s for most people

[wheat comet]

true

[quartz ridge]

I heard someone getting 30 there though

[wheat comet]

i love kinaxis

dream company

Do someone play Farm ville 2 country escape?

[worldly ridge]

are you gen alpha or osmething

i play farmville 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfwCPHOIWaY

[wheat comet]

im gen x

[worldly ridge]

congrats on X

[wheat comet]

dont congrats me on that

X is shit platform

[quartz ridge]

Wait is Kinaxis one of the top AI platforms?

Or is Sanctuary AI better

[terse burrow]

Bro what is arctic wolf

Ive never heard of them

[azure junco]

Top 10% for sure

For intern]

[quartz ridge]

Okay

What about for new grad

Like 30?

Or 35 ish

@azure junco

[azure junco]

Maybe 30-32

[swift kernel]

congrats on sanctuary ai

[quartz ridge]

I'm not at Sanctuary

I'm interviewing for them now...

https://sanctuary.ai/

They are good company with 16k followers on Linker @azure junco

@wheat comet 16k follows...

[barren galleon]

21/hr is top 10%?

Seems pretty low

[quartz ridge]

I would say top 35%

Meek Mill has better knowledge of intern space

He may be right

[quartz ridge]

What would you say is top 10%?

[barren galleon]

I can't say cuz I don't know much about salaries

I was just surprised since most interns I know get around mid 20s

[fossil field]

25 is average

21 on low end

[magic cave]

I feel like this is the second time I've seen you ask this

[fossil field]

why does it matter..........

take what you can get

[quartz ridge]

No first time.

Anyone know if LAMP stack is better

Or MERN?

What's better to break into a full stacker

[fossil field]

c#

[fossil field]

blazor

[ashen mason]

this guy is a bot

[fossil field]

see which is the most common stack in apps and learn that

[quartz ridge]

Okay I got mocked last time?

Just asking for clarity

[surreal owl]

So consensus is 1pass > workday in terms of everything. Both in canada

[lapis tide]

do not make preposterous accusations

[fossil field]

what is stack for 1pass and workday?

its more about what are your future goals and what languages/stack you want to work on the future

name does not matter they are both good in this case

[surreal owl]

1pass is golang more backend and workday is kotlin react

1pass seems more interesting on paper as I'm more interested in backend

Ah ok I'll do 1pass then

[quartz ridge]

Golang microservices are valuable

Kotlin only useful if you want to do Android development

Or frontend focused

1pass is definitely better....

If you have ever entered your resume info into Workday well

There is your answer my dearest friend @surreal owl

[fossil field]

yea 1pass

i dont like golang personally and would rather go for python or c# but if you like it go for it

[quartz ridge]

Golang is only good for backend

[surreal owl]

Haha

[surreal owl]

Yeah got c# exp in first coop, ok 1pass it is

[jagged flicker]

is any big tech hiring new grads rn in canada?

Ik meta's going pretty hard in the us

[drifting panther]

how much does 1pass pay

[surreal owl]

But name wise tho like brand value are workday and 1pass similar

[surreal owl]

Scales according to number of coop terms completed

[quartz ridge]

I think it's anywhere from like 30-40

But based on past coop

[surreal owl]

27 for first one, then prolly 30 smth for the next few

According to current interns

[wheat comet]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMMNhWDBL/

[worldly ridge]

its becasue they started unionizing, union was too small and not powerful enough ig

[wheat comet]

😔

[wheat comet]

should pay more.

but pay doesnt matter as long as they following SOLID principles

[quartz ridge]

Good observation

I think if they use ACID for ddb, and have ci/cd added it can outweigh pay

[azure junco]

i think it is only worth it if they use a good language like lisp or racket. has to be functional programming

otherwise you won't really get anything out of the job.. might as well work in fast food or retail at that point

[quartz ridge]

good observation. i like archaic language like cobol/fortran too

[spiral musk]

Anyone had Amazon final on Monday and hasn't heard back yet

[quartz ridge]

you had a seg fault in ur code prob

thats why....

[magic cave]

It's been 5 days

[spiral musk]

They*

[wheat comet]

Those are all abstracting away too many important learnings for software developer. You should use assembly as a beginner , and transition to machine code as you progress.

[quartz ridge]

This is sound advice... i recommend deep dive into the registers

[wheat comet]

Yes , something higher level like registers would be appropriate for beginner. Further exploration of transistors and then qubits would be of use.

[quartz ridge]

Great input segment.

[stable ravine]

ignored

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/878299705933697034.gif?size=40&quality=lossless

[stable ravine]

Juda will view you

[autumn trail]

tues but haven't heard back yet either

[quartz ridge]

Stop this mock....

[magic cave]

Yeah you should use stubs instead

[worldly ridge]

why dont all brokerages and employers automaticaly file taxes

tax weekend for me

[magic cave]

It's March

I will reduce my standards one step

I am willing to work for 70k now

[quartz ridge]

lol…. I’m ok with 30k

70k is grandiose… don’t play this game….

[wheat comet]

sad to see guys so worry about money, prestige and fame when you struggle to find job . i really dont get it why does it matter..........

focus on skills (OOP) and networking and compiler knowledge will get you farther than chasing high salary

[fossil field]

Are you mocking me?

If not then we’ll said took the words out of my mouth

[wheat comet]

what

no

i was like them

until u opened my mind

[fossil field]

Ur a real one you get it

[wheat comet]

💯 it is an honour

[fossil field]

Literally my thoughts exactly

But yea I swear everytime I come in this chat I hear money money money

For people with no jobs

[quartz ridge]

Great observations recently. Really capturing the essence of a true developer… thanks for spreading this message on behalf of me /AndreML. Just learn to stop chase TC and focus on compiler theory, no tool monkey, system architecture …will get far

[magic cave]

That's why I need money money money

[fossil field]

Yea but you think you are worth 70k min lol

[magic cave]

No 100k min

But I will choose to tolerate 70k

[fossil field]

Take any job that will give you a chance even if it’s 40k

You choose to be broke forever then

You are not in top 10% boss

[magic cave]

@warm adder back me up bro

[fossil field]

Take any job

[magic cave]

Give my boy a hot min to come online

[fossil field]

Bruh ur jobless and complaining

[quartz ridge]

You’re worth 30k at the moment. No prior internships and low drive to learn about compilers

I want you to have a mindset shift . Right now you are corrupt TC goblin… learn to learn compiler and discrete math

[magic cave]

I only code SQL

[quartz ridge]

Stop being unmeek and just chase TC like hemoglobin

[magic cave]

Don't know the other stuff

[fossil field]

Waste of space in this chat tbh

[quartz ridge]

Leave our convo you just chase money like a female

[fossil field]

Go learn or something build. A project

You to pork

[wheat comet]

make something otherwise tool monkey

[quartz ridge]

You have no drive to learn about low level concepts… really shameful

You just learn React and say you know the byte codes….

[fossil field]

Ec2 you talk about money and prestige more than will work for 70k

[magic cave]

Burnt 🥵

[quartz ridge]

Really not a good approach to mastery like assembly and learning about AST is important…

[wheat comet]

how does it feel to face your family and tell them you are jobless and don't know how register work

[fossil field]

Tf u talking about assembly

Go build real world web app

Or mobile app

[wheat comet]

he only make simple query

[azure junco]

I would pay for a job. You guys don't understand that wanting 80k+ jobs with no experience is not good and will leave you jobless....

[fossil field]

Have real use case and add value to company

[magic cave]

You can call me Shrid bro

Bro doesn't even know our names

[quartz ridge]

Assembly is low level much needed… you just abuse chat gpt not a good fit for ML suffix now….

[ivory pond]

How do I TC maxx

[wheat comet]

again, hopeless ^.

[fossil field]

No hate if you don’t know basic shit like sql and stuff there are certain things you learn on a job that you wouldn’t know otherwise but you should do your best to be job ready and excel at your career

[wheat comet]

its okay, dont need to sugar coat and say no hate

we hate those guys

[quartz ridge]

Andre to be honest you have been low meek (lot of call outs). You prominent proponent of GPT usage yet you talk low about assembly… gpt is built on the shoulder of giants…. Learn assembly and machine code….

[fossil field]

I wanna hear u jobless talking about what’s new with your project what issues you are encountering and how much you are learning

[magic cave]

Sure my project right now is this class assignment

[fossil field]

Learn to use tool like gpt to make real world apps to gain lots of users

[quartz ridge]

I have inclination now…. Nulname must have possessed Andre… normally he is rational in speech, candid in composure

Today he spews nonsense about abusing chat GPT and learning web dev before low level concepts…

[azure junco]

Developers now a days will not know that underneath chatgpt is all
cmp r1 r2
beq yes
bne no

[quartz ridge]

Weird change in persona

[quartz ridge]

This is excellent breakdown. Registers and bare metal hardware….

[wheat comet]

low level and web dev dont have to be segregationed. create web app with low level. host on server rack that you set up yourself. if civilization collapsed today, would you know how to use REST API ? would you know how to integrate tools like Chat GPT to gain real knowledge and rebuild civilization ?

[magic cave]

Rn I'm trying to make a bot that just talks about TC on CS Discords

[stone osprey]

Doit

[worldly ridge]

SELECT * FROM unemployed

[stone osprey]

I’ll work for 70K too

[worldly ridge]

table returend @magic cave with 1 result

[magic cave]

@fossil field, respectfully may I ask what your TC is when accounting for projects and employment

[stone osprey]

Wasn’t Andre leaving the discord

What happened to that

[quartz ridge]

Andre is making me rethink things. He was a leader and I was a cog in his well oiled machine. Now he simply spews roast beef about GPT4 Turbo and Tailwind CSS… might need to lynch

[worldly ridge]

sir, your english changed with a lot of "..." today

query? why?

[quartz ridge]

No…. False correlation

[fossil field]

Please no talk about useless assembly you won’t use unless you are interested in low level programming

Cause literally no fucking point some of the best devs I know have no idea what assembly is

Anyways gl on job search

[magic cave]

He is talking about me

[wheat comet]

why do you guys even want money to work? you do understand that you are all replaceable. infact andre is probably creating machine learning algorithms to replace all of the tool monkeys that you guys are. be grateful if company willing to pay you a single dollar to do anything, as they can easily outsource to india and you will remain jobless . show your employers how much they mean to you. go above and beyond. dont clock out at 5 , work until you physically cannot.

[quartz ridge]

You just have layer of abstraction on abstraction. Do you want to know how the system work or do you want to be tool monkey. You call yourself AI engineer because you used “import OpenAI from OpenAI”… do you know about model training.. fine tuning.. transformers? You simply use the high level API and call yourself ML engineer….

[fossil field]

Yea lol I am working on fine tuning rn

Api is just 1 part

I have made an agent chain and hosted model that we had to change

[quartz ridge]

No you called an API and claimed AI engineer

[fossil field]

I am actually more interested in ai/ml research than anything so know all the details but it’s nice building use case apps cause you are actually adding business value and become more valuable to the company

[quartz ridge]

You cannot do this… unless you know assembly

Do you know nuts and bolts or just abuse someone else made API???

That’s why low level fixes things

You can understand moving parts…..

[fossil field]

Nuts and bolts… I work on my own ml models for quant analysis at home for side project

Yes I understand it

But that’s cause it’s my passion

[quartz ridge]

But you refuse to learn assembly why?

[fossil field]

But you do not need to know that to add value to business as proved by my coworkers

[quartz ridge]

Registers is the true basis….

[magic cave]

And me

[fossil field]

I never said I don’t know assembly… just that it’s not important

I don’t mean not important at all

But for most devs it does not matter if you don’t wanna go for low level programming

[quartz ridge]

Ok Andre how about systems programming

[wheat comet]

one should not learn how to read before learning his ABCs

[quartz ridge]

Say you use Rust

Do you see value..?

[wheat comet]

this is my personal opinion

[quartz ridge]

Good….

[fossil field]

Assembly isn’t abcs anymore

There’s is so many levels of abstraction you don’t need to know it

[quartz ridge]

Andre you throw a shade on golang…. You advocate for Python… why is this?

You have little view on concurrency..?

[magic cave]

I have big view on currency

[fossil field]

I just personally don’t like Golang, never said it’s bad

[quartz ridge]

Explain why it’s disliked

[fossil field]

Everything I could want to develop I could do it in purging and c#

[quartz ridge]

You cannot simply dislike within reason…

[fossil field]

I don’t like the syntax and the development environment and I have no use for it

[wheat comet]

i think society will collapse soon, assembly engineer outlook high because we will not have access to python compiler

[quartz ridge]

You speak well today…

High meek and good knowledge sharing

[wheat comet]

trying to increase my view

[vivid fiber]

I love Golang

[worldly ridge]

Query, as a candian engineer, what should our TC be then

should it be lower then india?

Query

[magic cave]

What's the difference

[worldly ridge]

yuou are asking for 70k

there are people in india for 7 cents

with the same quality of talent

[magic cave]

Same quality

🤨

[wheat comet]

yes. why would company hire you when no knowledge of low level ? india much more resource efficient and india highly available here

[worldly ridge]

ur just another dashboard crud engineer, u r replacable

[vivid fiber]

I cant tell if this is a troll or not

[worldly ridge]

thanky ou

i will move to india

[wheat comet]

good...

[magic cave]

Did anybody see the horrible news about Kson's belly

[quartz ridge]

Good view

[queen shuttle]

Hey guys I am currently considering taking the Gatech OMSCS (online master) coz i couldn't land any offer after over 1 yr job grinding💀 wondering once if i finish that degree do companies in Canada consider me as new grad or am I eligible for intern position Canada?

[stable ravine]

idts

[balmy hull]

has anyone in Canada been waitlisted for amazon?

[gray spruce]

When you aren't finished you qualify for internships cause usually it's "has at least a semester of school after the completion of this internship", and after you can go for new grad (again)

I'm thinking of doing it too, what pushed you to wanna do it?

[rain mantle]

well yea but if your not in the coop dept, or ur uni doesnt have the coop program. u cant work for a coop position

[shrewd cargo]

I'm a high school student and just have a mcgill cs offer. How does it compare to UTSC/UTSG cs?

[magic cave]

McGill CS sucks

But McGill is the #1 university in Canada

🐐

I've never heard of either of those schools before

Back me up

[magic cave]

Wtf the andre lore is crazy

Bro climbed and is kicking the ladder away from us

[magic cave]

Ok I've read Andre's entire lore

All 3000 messages

[lapis tide]

youre missing 82

stop mock

[magic cave]

He met Greg Doucette, that's really cool

[magic cave]

But seriously, it's been 5 months and his personality is completely different

[lapis tide]

he is working for 70k

what are you doing? a false auditor...

[magic cave]

I'm making AI gooning bots

[fresh fog]

It really does.

What school do you go to fellow montrealian @magic cave ?

[magic cave]

McGill. . .

[fresh fog]

😂

Ngl I wanted to go to mcgill at some point but it was just for the fun

Also y’all are probably paid more than us when you graduate but yeah this degree isn’t the best

[magic cave]

UDEM right?

Or UQAM

[fresh fog]

this one

This is the total opposite. The school isn’t the best, but comp sci is great

[magic cave]

Is it in French

[fresh fog]

Yes only urs and concordia are the only non-french uni

[kind hazel]

Havard of the north

[pastel fulcrum]

UQAM

[magic cave]

Is it better than McGill's though?

[azure junco]

Idk but there are certain companies that only hire interns from certain universities

[turbid crater]

#canada message

[drifting shore]

meta?

[turbid crater]

Reviewing parameters…
Current status: 10%

[turbid crater]

Bro why you bringing me down 😭😭😭

No 😭😭😭, you ruined the revenge update 😭😭😭

[drifting shore]

doomed to zon?

[turbid crater]

🥹

Misery loves company

[magic cave]

Wow this some goofy shit

[turbid crater]

We’ll be in this together

[magic cave]

Have you considered learning compilers instead of plotting a year-long revenge arc

[turbid crater]

It’s part of the revenge but around 70ish %

[magic cave]

Oh there's andre lore next to your thread

[drifting shore]

did u hear back after the interview?

i need meta

[turbid crater]

Yeah I got my response on the same day

And I even solved the questions properly but not optimally

I got one medium one hard 💀

But I’ll get it next year fs

[quartz ridge]

What company

[turbid crater]

Meta

[reef niche]

Anyone here graduating in August? (convocation in fall)

[quartz ridge]

grad last year december...

december 2023.

that work?

[reef niche]

you mean you completed courses in December?

How's job search for you?

[quartz ridge]

Pretty bad

New grad is impossibel to land any interviews so far

Got like an intenr callback but they didnt sponsor

So it's pretty doomed

[lapis tide]

where? @quartz ridge

[reef niche]

why no sponsor?

[quartz ridge]

this is not meek

intrusion

[quartz ridge]

not sure. it's a small company

they just don't sponsor j1

or tn

[magic cave]

I've applied for 20 jobs this term and no luck

When does it end

[pastel fulcrum]

20

[fossil field]

yea thats why im giving you guys advice for what helped me cause i was in exact situation as yall

but yall troll me and dont take me seriously 😦

[magic cave]

Nah I looked you up

[fossil field]

doesnt affect me but i wsh the best for my peers in my exact place

[magic cave]

Networking works for you because you go to a random school

[fossil field]

huh

okay well im not talking to employed

[magic cave]

Bro please help I'd even work for 69k 😭

[fossil field]

wut bro

do u have job?

[magic cave]

I wanna meet gref doucette too bro mememe

[fossil field]

yea see u are a troll

so i really dont give a fuck about you 🤣

[magic cave]

?

My questions are asked in earnest

[fossil field]

youve only trolled me on here

[magic cave]

What about paddington and EC2

[fossil field]

peace

you are extremely regarded and i will be ignoring you from here on out

[lucid loom]

Wait no fucking way

That’s sick

Her boiler room set was nutty

Damn bruh

[fossil field]

gotta buy a lot of candies tho cause you know how they be

[lucid loom]

Open to afters to public 😫

[fossil field]

but ill get green room tho

at least

[lucid loom]

Wym

[fossil field]

the room artists chill in

aka the drug room

[minor spruce]

cool name

[lucid loom]

mate how decked out is ur place

[fossil field]

haha no not my place i its at coda

then they reaching my place for ap

[lucid loom]

epic enjoy gang

[worldly ridge]

york and uoft on strike, when ryerwom

TAs about to be able to afford houses now

[magic cave]

McGill TAs make $30

[worldly ridge]

u will make 15 dollars an hour

you are not meek enough

[magic cave]

Is that even legal 😦

[worldly ridge]

u cannot beat competition with high TC

[normal jetty]

The amount of work is innacurate

Like they’ll say 80hrs a semester

But the actual marking takes 200

[worldly ridge]

so they make like 1 dollar an hr

[normal jetty]

Ye

[worldly ridge]

janitors make more then TAs

[weak gazelle]

@worldly ridge can you stop making offensive remarks about people in academia

thanks

people in academia gap SWEs

and also make a lot more money

[worldly ridge]

your condo appericiating every year gaps the salary of TAs

[weak gazelle]

@worldly ridge arent u literally a researcher at fintech and make 140k TC a year

[worldly ridge]

220k.

you cant reach my level and u r worth 40k though

[fresh fog]

yes, but they’re completely different

you guys have a lot of maths and not a lot practice which makes it so some of you don’t even know how to use git 💀

we have a lot of practice which makes us really efficient after graduation

but it doesn’t really show in hiring because you have a good reputation

But tbf our degree is “comp sci and software engineering” which is different than what you guys have

[fresh fog]

I used to make 19$ TAing at uqam 🥲

[magic cave]

McGill has a software engineering major and a CS major 🤨

[fresh fog]

Yes and I was specifically comparing our “comp sci and software engineering” major with their “comp sci”

Idk anyone in swe at mcgill so idk how it is

[magic cave]

Yeah no one does

[magic cave]

Ok I got a final offer

But they just sent me a background check

[wheat comet]

Congrats on _______

[magic cave]

And Idk how to tell them I've been in prison

Can I just not do the HireRight?

[pastel fulcrum]

Polytechnique TA makes 85$/h

[magic cave]

How much do polytechnique new grads make 🥱

[pastel fulcrum]

0 Imagine finding a job 🥱

[magic cave]

BTC is now worth 90K

It's an all-time high

So I am raising my standards to one BTC

[eternal fossil]

woke up to news that google is opening new grad roles in india

rip lol

capitalism is the bane of my existence

fuck this shit

[worldly ridge]

its joever, tech will be outsourced to india and AI will reduce headcount

[stone osprey]

^

[stone osprey]

u in cs, capitalism is your existence

[worldly ridge]

first years in cs rn after they graduate:

https://tenor.com/view/atlas3dss-atlas3dss-begging-atlas3dss-poor-atlas3dss-homeless-gif-25927308

[fresh fog]

noice

where ?

[fresh fog]

btw are other TAs also paid one extra hour per 2 hour shifts ?

[worldly ridge]

wait i just saw the post ur refering about now 💀

[drifting panther]

Not just India, tech is gonna be outsourced like crazy to South America, Eastern Europe etc

[magic cave]

But can they compete with rhe quality of NA engineers

[drifting panther]

It was always gonna happen but remote work and covid accelerate the process

[worldly ridge]

yeah ive seen cracked EU devs in my company

like it makes me feel retarted when i open their code / PRs

[magic cave]

That's such a weird policy

But nah they don't

[drifting panther]

Also, in a way jobs are being outsourced to Canada. I’ve seen multiple companies who are currently doing bad in the economy start opening up positions in Canada to take advantage of the cheap labor

[fresh fog]

we do at uqam do that would be equivalent to 30$/h

[wheat comet]

Whats the channel with all the company discords on it

[fresh fog]

also it’s not weird lol

[ashen mason]

They been saying this for last 10 years

[magic cave]

Basically it's a bi-weekly payment of $400 and you're scheduled for 90 hours

[ashen mason]

Stop dooming

[magic cave]

But if you take too long to grade, etc. you don't get paid more

Idk if I actually worked 90 hours back then

[worldly ridge]

yes but we couldve had more jobs for our coutnryu if it wasnt oursourced

[drifting panther]

Yea but it’ll only get worse from here, won’t get better. You’ll never see jobs in India being cut and the same roles opening up in the US, it can only go one direction, from expensive countries to cheaper

[worldly ridge]

we will experience the rust exodus

[ashen mason]

This true.

[kind stag]

thats a nice rejection message

i aint even mad

[worldly ridge]

bro valve has barely any employees

what makes u think ur special andur gonna get that

[kind stag]

idk

[magic cave]

I have 6000 hrs on CS

[lost lark]

just wait til they see my case unboxing video

[magic cave]

Why can't we start building houses?

What's really stopping me from driving to Mantiboa and just start digging

[wheat comet]

Nothing

Do it

[lost lark]

the cold

[eternal fossil]

yup lol

[eternal fossil]

we're all cogs brother

[magic cave]

Dip my excavator in hot water

[noble field]

@magic cave are you taking 551 this semester

[magic cave]

Yeah

How you know?

[noble field]

Random guess

I’m taking it also

There’s a lot of kids in the class

I just got cucked by the midterm

[magic cave]

Nah I'm kidding I haven't taken 250 yet

[noble field]

Brothers u0

[fresh fog]

Yeah we had the same thing except it usually takes 3x less time to grade than they give you so you have basically 2/3 free money

But for the lab we were paid an extra hour for preparation since we still need to remember the lab content to do the lecture

[magic cave]

Are you math/CS?

[noble field]

Cs math minor

Close enough

[magic cave]

I might know you?

But I'm actually just 303

Graduating this sem

[wise parrot]

Has anyone interviewed at KOHO before?

[magic cave]

That makes sense then

[teal remnant]

New grad ?

[quartz ridge]

i think the best combo at this point in time

is probably just investing in a dual degree

this is the one i receommend

basically u do a cs major

andthen a stats or pure math minor

or combiantors

because this way u can open up many doors

math is the basis of everything in this world

and is even more low level than something like compilers or assembly

so if i had one tip or advice for people in this generation trying to make it

in our industry it would be to learn maths

and lots of it

[magic cave]

Math is hard though

Why can't I get a 6-figure job without doing work 😡😡😡

And an apartment in Harbourfront

And a girlfriend who loves me

[fossil field]

Damn that’s sad

Wishing for you to be happy

[lost lark]

Double the work double the opportunities amirite

😏😏

[wheat comet]

My friend

[lost lark]

Why is the most recent project the least talked about one lol

[wheat comet]

LOL yea idk its an old one

Ngl i was not meant to send that here 😹

Sent by accident

[quartz ridge]

low meek

don't spread the dox....

low meek emoji as well... you're acting poorly today

hope you can go study compilers like llvm...

[wheat comet]

Will study physics and math today to understand low level fundamental and acquire knowledge of everything . My apologize

[quartz ridge]

what your problem today..

[wheat comet]

Food poison..

[calm elm]

Could be interesting to see different job boards if you have that readily available

[wheat comet]

I don’t unfortunately, but I also only found that after a 5 second google search, im sure it’s out there though

[azure junco]

You should be able to build a transistor by hand. Do you even know how a processor works? What is the difference between a T flip flop and D flip flop?

[wheat comet]

Transistors are too high level for me, i am more concerned with building better semiconductors

[azure junco]

Good choice and answer. I like it.

Too many people rely on all these high level software, like C++. We need to return to building dedicated hardware...

[lapis tide]

tread not in vivacious waters, young buck…

you ejaculate these flamboyant opinions...how will you back it up?

[gilded charm]

just signed up with wellfound lists look empty about 2-3 jobs for junior roles?

[fresh fog]

I had to draw an ALU like a week ago 💀

[fresh fog]

junior roles don’t exist, it’s a myth invented by the government. You need 50 years of experience to apply for “junior roles”

[azure junco]

ok great start, now build one

maybe after that you will be truly ready for web development

[gilded charm]

so much bs out there lAbOur sHoRTAge...

[fresh fog]

will I finally be eligible to learn the best language after that - html ?

[fresh fog]

there’s no labour shortage but there’s money shortage

[azure junco]

no. you must work your way up. first learn how serial communication works. then how the http protocol works. only then, may you begin to understand html....

[quartz ridge]

Great advice… speak facts

[fresh fog]

Do I have to code tcp from scratch ?

[quartz ridge]

Code up a data gram in tcp

Code tcp handshake

Learn DNS…

What port is DNS on?

Name 3 registers…?

Do you know these details?

[fresh fog]

a,b,c. Easy

[quartz ridge]

If not you are not ready for HTML….

[fresh fog]

I will study the language once I’m ready. Understood

[azure junco]

trick question.... first one must pick the architecture they will use. arm has different registers than mips for instance... i like the way you make questions