canada

[hallow sapphire]

cool work

[zenith eagle]

I think I burned the bridge

[hallow sapphire]

how?

[zenith eagle]

I was lying that I was in coop too just to get through the interviewing process to see if they would hire me without a coop designation and just as an intern

Oh well it is what it is

Coop not worth the money imho and I kept asking sacai too many questions about the product and funding and nature of work and they were getting irked

Tbf when I interviewed they were quite new and it felt like vapourware

[hallow sapphire]

I wasn't even in coop

and they still interviewed me

[zenith eagle]

Oh I lied outright I shouldn't have about coop but oh well

[boreal sorrel]

whats sac ai

[hallow sapphire]

ai company in vancouver that runs off of grants

a lot of fuck you grant money

200+ million iirc

[boreal sorrel]

is this same as sanctuary ai lol

[hallow sapphire]

ya

[abstract crypt]

tom ur officially going to prison for this one

i know someone who would kill for rbc right now

i didnt know how i was gonna break da news

u r evil

[abstract crypt]

real hours

[analog current]

Bro scared tf out of me

[vast aspen]

sorry bros

dw we pray this week

[quartz ridge]

Lmao Sanc AI is going to pop off soon

They legit have infinite funding for next gen robotics and AI

Pay is infinite too

@glad echo 200k currently

[fresh fog]

Is it okay doing all your internships at the same company or is it more valuable to change every time ?

[magic cave]

It's okay to do that, it shows that the companies want you back

But definitely more valuable to change

[solid flame]

anyone get response from shopify?

[frozen sleet]

Anyone knows if splunk will still be hiring in can this summer?… someone said they cancelled internship this year summer but ig that’s only in us?

[kind hazel]

^

wtf happened to shopify

[stable ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/disappear-gif-10108384

[zenith eagle]

they cucked me out of ro

also bro wtf this weather in souther ontario

no snow on the ground + relaly sunny weather giving me peak spring vibes

i don't like it

[azure junco]

can't wait to get destroyed by ticks and mosquitoes this summer

[lapis tide]

congrats

[vague totem]

Isn't it mid Feb?

[zenith eagle]

thank you

[vague totem]

Will they hire first years?

[analog current]

I love the sunshine

[crystal comet]

they said expect mid feb i think

[worldly ridge]

shopify will do another round of layoffs

mark my words

[lapis tide]

Hi all

I have a quick query

Is there a recipient present?

I will drop my query below

[azure junco]

What is your query?

[lapis tide]

aLet’s say there is a hiring manager for New Grad in Canada

Candidate A: tool monkey (knows React and Graph QL), 500 leetcode completed

Versus

Candidate B: meek personality, knows compiler and OS, 3.95 GPA, poor comms

Who are you choosing?

[azure junco]

I will pick Candidate C: me

[zenith eagle]

Assuming that most of the jobs are crud so react and graphwl sadly

Also the meek personality ain't helping B's case

GPA doesn't matter

[barren sinew]

Depends on the role. Are you a hiring manager at a startup selling a customer facing product? Candidate A. Are you on a team that needs performance for large distributed systems? B

[zenith eagle]

It doesn't mean shot

[worldly ridge]

ML bootcamp grad

[crystal comet]

what does poor comms mean

ironic if it's poor communicator

why would you not just improve your communication skills and personality

[zenith eagle]

that's kind hard to do imho

harder than learning new tech

not being socially rtarded is v difficult to cure

[crystal comet]

especially if ur just in ur room doing leetcode all day

need to hit the middleground

[quartz ridge]

I asked a similar query recently. Is this your attempt at mock? Failed miserably… but in any case I would choose meek personality. It overrides the poor comms and good fundamentals. No tool monkey or leetcode worm will be able to compete with cs low level knowledge. Remove suffix soon.

[lapis tide]

i do not mock... i just query our canada channel

[quartz ridge]

Uh. What query language?

G QL?

[lapis tide]

unfortunately, structured

[quartz ridge]

Sal?

Sal Khab

[lapis tide]

yes indeed

[azure junco]

your queries should be passed in as args to a c program that you wrote and compiled yourtself.... using structured queries is tool monkey behaviour.

better yet, pass in query to an assembly program

[lapis tide]

you are being gregarious...you will never get cohere

[zenith eagle]

big words

wait

gregarious is a good thing

[azure junco]

so sorry i will be less greg like

[zenith eagle]

did u mean you aren't gregarious?

[azure junco]

my apologies

[quartz ridge]

Gregarious is a verbose word

Refrain from usage if aim is to preserve meek

Got it?

[azure junco]

what an effervescent statement. i will continue to use gregarious.

[hallow sapphire]

I use

the best words

like banana

very big

[zenith eagle]

you know what else is very big?

my ego

[azure junco]

the unemployment rate for cs majors?

oh

[zenith eagle]

thought i'd say something else didn't u

oh yea that too

[hallow sapphire]

I wish I had an ego

T_T

but I am just a cookie

[zenith eagle]

half eaten at that

[quartz ridge]

Shopify new grad pay

Is good

[zenith eagle]

$0

[lapis tide]

i must say i oppose your view

[quartz ridge]

102k base + bonus

I heard

For Shopify new grad

Anyone confirm?

Is there stock?

@zenith eagle confirm plz

[drifting shore]

No way it’s that low

[quartz ridge]

That’s what I heard

Their intern pay I think is 85k

80-85k

[drifting shore]

shopify is the largest canadian tech company, they should pay like faang

[worthy orbit]

they do pay like faang in canada. Their base is 110k without bonuses. Amazon pays 114k base in canada. Have a friend at Stripe Canada who's making 110k base for new grad too

[quartz ridge]

Amazon is 130 base

Shopify is 102

Where did u get the 110 number from?

[real island]

Damn stripe pays 110k base in Canada?

Thought it would be more

[uneven meteor]

ironically Zon entry level pays more than Shopify senior swe

[quartz ridge]

Shopify senior is 170 base lol

Not a chance

[uneven meteor]

and zon can be 180-200k TC

[quartz ridge]

130 base

Is not 170 base

[uneven meteor]

with stock appreciation if you survive

[quartz ridge]

Def not as much as Shopify senior

[uneven meteor]

it’s deff not , but the fact it’s comparable

kinda memes

[real island]

https://tenor.com/view/toad-eating-garlic-gif-22185300

[quartz ridge]

U pulled the 110 base figure for Shopify out of ur butt

[uneven meteor]

and I think it’s like 145-160k base now usd

[quartz ridge]

Back it with data or stop the cap

I heard it’s 102

But that was 2 years ago

[uneven meteor]

so the 180k, 200k with paper seems fine compared to that

[quartz ridge]

So may be a tiny bit higher maybe…

[real island]

Where?

[uneven meteor]

shop

[real island]

Damn for what level?

[uneven meteor]

senior

but Shopify senior is like mega Mickey level I realized , or maybe I just had a bad interviewer

[worthy orbit]

nah thats base, with bonuses its almost 200k

[uneven meteor]

but quality and skill level seemed mega low lol

[real island]

I said base he

Ye*

[worthy orbit]

lmao ik someone who had a RO there for summer 2024

[quartz ridge]

Shopify has a low bar

So pay can’t be any good tbh

[real island]

[worthy orbit]

bro amazons only 114k, where tf r u getting 130k base from

[drifting shore]

amazon has a lower bar

[real island]

As if Amazon has any bar

[drifting shore]

[quartz ridge]

So it’s 110 base and then 15% bonus? But no stock?

[quartz ridge]

For Vancouver

[worthy orbit]

not sure about bonuses

[uneven meteor]

Amazon bar is 100x prolly , and 10000x to survive

[real island]

They increased it

[uneven meteor]

the “backend” swe I was talking to had only used Ruby lol for backend

[worthy orbit]

ah ok, yea ik a ng at amazon toronto and its 114k

[quartz ridge]

But there’s 0 stock for Shopify?

So it’s all cash?

[uneven meteor]

he’d never used anything else

[quartz ridge]

Makes sense

[uneven meteor]

if he goes to interview anywhere else he won’t even land entry level swe lol

[quartz ridge]

This is Toronto tho

[uneven meteor]

like ng l4

[real island]

Wait I lied

It’s 114k base

[quartz ridge]

Then how much stock?

A for sure

Any day of the week my friend

[uneven meteor]

well you can look at it as base alone

[real island]

Vancouver, Toronto 2023 SDE return intern to full time: 113,800 + 42,900/34,040 y1/y2 bonus + 111,000 rsu (5/15/40/40) CAD

[uneven meteor]

which is more realistic

[quartz ridge]

Per month

Or what

That’s so tiny for year 😂

What

[drifting shore]

[quartz ridge]

Oh the bonus is hefty

Gyatt

No but I’m still confused

If Shopify has stock options or not

[real island]

Not sure tbh just got that from Amazon server

[quartz ridge]

Seems like it’s only cash lol

[uneven meteor]

Shopify has nothing

[real island]

[uneven meteor]

only 10k bonus I think

and base

[quartz ridge]

Damn pure cash

That’s mid then

10k or 10%?

It’s usually percent wise

[real island]

Tbf I’d rather work for Amazon over Shopify anyway if Amazon team has good wlb

[quartz ridge]

Well Amazon name is better than Shopify

[uneven meteor]

just cash I think flat bonus

[quartz ridge]

Damn ok

[real island]

I’m gonna meek!!!

[uneven meteor]

Amazon Canada seems like pip factory

are outcomes good for people

like transfer to Seattle or whatever

[quartz ridge]

Well u can start in canada

Then check for job postings

And then transfer to US location

[drifting shore]

u cant

[quartz ridge]

And that’s for l3 right

Liek lowest rank

[uneven meteor]

faang seems like scam for Canadians

[quartz ridge]

U can easily get promoted and get more stock

[uneven meteor]

bay startups prolly better

[quartz ridge]

And more base

[drifting shore]

try not to get pip

[quartz ridge]

Hitting L4 takes <2 years

Or ur a goner

[real island]

MeekMaxxing

[uneven meteor]

don’t you start as L4

[quartz ridge]

L3

[uneven meteor]

huh

[quartz ridge]

Oh

Usually swe 1 to 2 takes less than two years

Unless ur Brian damaged

[uneven meteor]

yeah l4/swe 1 is supposed to be a transitionary period while you’re not a real swe

[real island]

[uneven meteor]

shouldn’t take too long

[fresh fog]

bcs it's hard or bcs it's depressing ?

[tranquil goblet]

anyone here been able to get google that's not from waterloo or a return google intern?

seems like thats the only people who seem to get OAs

[worthy orbit]

did they release new roles for interns?

[tranquil goblet]

not that i know of, but i'm searching for possible last internship/new grad and it seems like theres only a certain demographic that gets google

[worthy orbit]

ik someone from a no name uni who has an interview there this month for ng. But he got it from cold emailing

[tranquil goblet]

cold email?

emailing the recruiter?

[worthy orbit]

yea

[tranquil goblet]

interesting

[hallow sapphire]

for new grad? or interview?

or intern in general?

[tranquil goblet]

i feel like thats a possible way, but also very rng because i've seen some recruiters hate when that happens

[hallow sapphire]

I know a few who've interviewed this year and gotten it outside of ro/waterloo for intern

[tranquil goblet]

for intern/new grad. I feel like FTE above new grad level it's more 'diverse'

[hallow sapphire]

ng has been all ros

intern has been varied

tho I know someone who was able to interview for a senior position and get it

but that's cause they've won defcon

[analog current]

yeah ik a uoft guy but idk if it makes it any better 😭 I’m doing a google reu rn but I’m from uw

The uoft guy had a 3.4 but got a return after step

Because engsci 😭

[broken whale]

I go to ubc and got oa

Cold apply

Heard google not giving ROs this year

[tranquil goblet]

ayyy nice i go to ubc too

yaa thats unfortunate

[broken whale]

Yeah apparently lot less projects this year

[hallow sapphire]

there's work to be done, just no one to hire for them

[broken whale]

?

Idk about that but people have been in team matching since july/aug and still dont have a team

That’s what i saw on google interns discord

[drifting shore]

ik someone from uoft with swe return offer after step

[zenith eagle]

step is diff

[drifting shore]

guaranteed team matching

[wheat comet]

Would you guys pick Hellofresh or Ceridian/Dayforce

[drifting shore]

Doomed is the only outcome?

[azure junco]

Daycorce

Hellofresh is really annoying and aggressive with their marketing

Like neo financial

[azure junco]

Wtf they're publicly traded 💀💀💀

[wheat comet]

intern

[fresh fog]

I thought layoff were only a recent “trend”

[analog current]

how tf did they get to my apartment door

[analog current]

also if you mean diversity and a bit unrelated, i think microsoft is a good company for that from what ive noticed

i know theres mixed opinions on it, however, i wouldnt want a boring ass workplace lmao

[stable ravine]

If ppl asking anything about job it’s not for ng

[cursive walrus]

did anyone hear from shopify after the oa yet or no?

to hear back 😭

not long enough

but more than few people that i know

wait wat

oh

ggs

i also realized that i applied with the wrong resume mistakely

😭

[cursive walrus]

ehh like it wasnt soo outdated, but i did change stuff up on my new resume

oh well

[quartz ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/canticos-not-gonna-make-it-not-going-to-make-it-ngmi-were-not-going-to-make-it-gif-25635049

[vague totem]

So they screen resume then look at ur GitHub code?

Anyone hear from BMO or cibc

[real island]

Bruh lol

[vague totem]

So its essentially ur resume+referral u may have then?

Damn

Just gimme some lc atp

[crystal comet]

how do u know?

[quartz ridge]

[magic cave]

I have a query

Is anybody available to answer

[tight gale]

external? most external who couldnt tm for past 2 years are still waiting

[worldly ridge]

optino c) meek and not a tool monkey

[wary tundra]

yes

the oa means nothing I mean

it was simple CRUD or simple react that GPT could do in 5 seconds

[wary tundra]

shopify doesn't ask leetcode

[crystal comet]

it's simple yet people were still writing dogshit code lol

[vague totem]

Sudoku solver

Btw did any of ur GitHub prs get approved by Shopify?

[crystal comet]

why would they approve them

so u can merge like that one dude did?

💀

[vague totem]

I mean like checks waiting approval

[vague totem]

Whom?

[crystal comet]

oh wait wtf

i thought it was some rando

but it's a guy who works at shopify?

why did he merge a completed project

[crystal comet]

https://github.com/Shopify/eng-intern-assessment-react/pull/254

and it's not even well made? 😭

[vague totem]

Wtf frontend only had to make a stopwatch?

This is why I chose infra and also cuz it has the least using of a bloated js framework

And least forks

[crystal comet]

based

[vague totem]

Shopify moment

[crystal comet]

mobile too

[vague totem]

Infra also looked interesting

[vague totem]

I've heard mobile very stressful as well

Like in general

[wet rapids]

i have a manulife interview tomorrow and i dont know what to expect

[vague totem]

Ru a first year? And did u apply on ur university job portal?

[wet rapids]

no just wd3

thir dyear

[vague totem]

What role?

[cursive walrus]

thats why it has the most prs 😭

it was easy as hell

[wet rapids]

swe intern

[crystal comet]

again easy but also easy to write dogshit code

at least 90-95% were very poorly written

hopefully it's not just a resume screen so that there's a benefit there

[vague totem]

would infra engineer have less roles than frontend. is there any info?

yes

i need coop

[crystal comet]

how do u know this though

where is this information coming from

[vague totem]

shopify hiring isnt great ngl. ik some ppl that work there that have told me how poor their choices are

they are very culture focused as well

as spend way tm on their employees imo

[crystal comet]

why would they reject in waves if it's resume screen

wack

ppl have already been rejected

[vague totem]

i got one. but being a first year is that gunna even help?

[crystal comet]

but not enough for it to be everyone who's going to be rejected this round

[vague totem]

ive heard att one point a referral was enough to get u an interview

[crystal comet]

do they use greenhouse? isn't it a different stupid thing

[vague totem]

last year they flat out didnt hire anyone right?

[crystal comet]

yeah smart recruiters that's it

ah

[vague totem]

5 teams i think 20 ppl max each

fuck thats way too little

shit

its joever

[crystal comet]

i doubt teams hire the same

infra/backend prob hire the most

[vague totem]

how many would be infa?

[vague totem]

YESSSS

[crystal comet]

then frontend maybe?

dude i'm totally talking out of my ass here

don't get hyped over it

[vague totem]

why?

[crystal comet]

prob

i was going to do backend but not learning ruby for one company lol

[vague totem]

my reference works in essentially infra. he builds internal tools w go and rust

nah rust and go as well

i rmr i learned ruby on rails as a kid to eventually intern at shopify. back then they hired hs kids. pre pandemic days and bfr shopify had there heads up their asses

simple startup selling shovels

shopify essentially funds ruby on rails atp

[crystal comet]

does stripe still use ruby?

they used to

at one point i think like 9/10 of the top ycomb companies were ruby

but most prob migrated off

[vague totem]

idky ruby died

[crystal comet]

easy to get off the ground 🤷‍♂️

[vague totem]

nah bro ruby on rails was the shit backthen

cuz u had like so much boiler plate so u didnt have to code as much

i did a social experiment trying to teach my sister ruby and ruby on rails which lead to her just quitting tryna be a swe.

c# better

?

nah c# is better than java

they have stable careers

i like microsoft docs

government

btw anyone know what happened to microsoft explore this yea?

kept trying to find it

is that gunna come back?

bro i had a refferal and everyting for google step

grinded LC

spent half of my whole summer finding one

[drifting shore]

Referrals are useless for faang

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-the-rock-gif-hitori-gotoh-hitori-gotoh-gif-27237975

[vague totem]

did roughly 50-60 questions over summer so 1 a day

[vague totem]

nah but this is a first year role so like yea

it should be less ppl yk

what is a SDE 1.5

do you guys reccomend working unpaid for ur first coop if its part-time while taking uni courses?

uw students are killing each other for research roles and my avg is not good

my only option is to do it at tmu which is appaerntly much easier cuz no one wants to do research there

but what research weould i be doing? my coursework by the time i finish first year will be:
Calc 1 and 2
Lin alg
Algebra(proofs/discrete math)
Buisness and economics(micro and macro)
CS 1(its like trees, basic data structures etc.)

[lost lark]

Fr?

For first year**

[vague totem]

yes its a shitshow. uw is spread thin and since ppl cant find jobs this is your bet

[lost lark]

Wow

😭

Nobody I know even considered research until 3rd/4th like what

[vague totem]

first years are hardly considered. uw does have some for eng students but thats just coding an app

[vague totem]

wait what?

isnt that how its suppose to be?

[lost lark]

Yea

[vague totem]

cuz ur suppose to be smarter in 3rd year

[lost lark]

So idk why ppl are in 1st year trying to be URAs

[lost lark]

🤔

I guess yea

[vague totem]

u r at uw?

idky a prof would take a first year

what class did u graduate?

oh damn cs?

[lost lark]

😂

[vague totem]

nvm hes my roomate. doing a cs masters

[lost lark]

https://tenor.com/view/munsonated-gif-26549638

[vague totem]

thats misleading

apparently big tech shedded 200k jobs

in canada

[lost lark]

More like canada sucks

[vague totem]

theres a small increase

thats good to know

i take it jrs is worse

[crystal comet]

just don't be a stupid junior then

[lost lark]

Ur right

[vague totem]

do employers weigh research the same as work exp?

[lost lark]

🤯

[lost lark]

No

[vague totem]

which one more

[crystal comet]

boo hoo there's less jobs for people who just came into cs because everyone who does cs is rich apparently

just be better

[crystal comet]

work exp way more valuable than research lol

[vague totem]

where is the fun in that

damn

[alpine compass]

Those applying for new grad, are y’all getting interviews? 😭

[vague totem]

kinaxis rejections out

[magic cave]

https://tenor.com/view/for-you-bane-the-dark-knight-rises-tom-hardy-gif-21912820

[strange jay]

Ayo is this yr objectively worse than ladt yr or what

Cant get any better from otpp atm

Lol i thought id end up goldman or smt last yr

Lmao

Id 100% be jobless without ro

Return offer

💀💀💀

[fiery prism]

give me a referral

[strange jay]

I wish

Might get piped out

Lol

This sucks

I cant even get out of here bc im a pr now

Buz internships even worse lmao

[fiery prism]

u were an intl?

[strange jay]

Ye

[fiery prism]

nice

[strange jay]

Got pr last yr

3-4 more yrs here

Soooooo bad

Us quant

Or m7 mba

Lmao im korean theres no future there

[fiery prism]

wait how did u get pr before graduate

I need some advice

[strange jay]

My family immigrated here so its lil diff

Got lucky

[fiery prism]

ah I see

can I marry u

oh actually nvm

[strange jay]

Sure fude

Dude

Lol

[fiery prism]

I need to marry a citizen

but yeah pr is harder to get these days

idk if I would get PR if I even got into Google or sth

[strange jay]

Tbh

Long as ur from 4yr undergrad

It should be fine

[fiery prism]

how abt 3yr

[strange jay]

I think its 3 yrs n more

[fiery prism]

(I intend to grad early if I have a return offer)

[worldly ridge]

pr in canada is ahrder to get now?

or us

[fiery prism]

CAN

US is already hard

h1b is crazy

[worldly ridge]

oh did something change

i thought u onlyu need a related job after skewl

[fiery prism]

CRS score is a lot higher

I think like ppl need at least 530 to get PR

I counted mine after jobs or so and only got 510

[worldly ridge]

dang

[strange jay]

530 acc achievable tho

[fiery prism]

yeah I need to learn French

😭

[strange jay]

Lol ye

[fiery prism]

what is LIMA

[magic cave]

Fraud

Create websites that mimic interac and get people to log into their "bank" using it

Make fake job postings but I just sell their email data (and send them the website)

Pretend to be showing off my $800 apartment in harbourfront but ask people to pay me for the viewing and background check with no intention on renting it out

[fiery prism]

wait so do our normal job offers from companies like td, rbc,... count as LMIAs

[stone osprey]

Rbc when

[fiery prism]

Fuck

Does coop count as work experience

I’m doing a year coop atm

Damn

Guess I need to learn french ☹️

[crystal comet]

this friday at the latest apparently

[fiery prism]

so I need to ask for one?

like for example if I get an offer, can I ask it to be LMIA verified

[vague totem]

Interviews came out

[stone osprey]

You can always do another certification. Some colleges offer like 13-18 weeks of certifications. That’s 40 more points I think

Or marry me homie ❤️

[strange jay]

i thought the government blocked this for pr apps tho

like until 2025

[stone osprey]

did they?

that was different i think

[fiery prism]

Yeah I thought so

Actually they don’t give PGWP the 1 year college certification

[strange jay]

yeah colleged blocked from pgwp

ministry announced it like last month

[normal parcel]

where are the jobs at

[pearl trout]

Why takes them so long

[stone osprey]

Idk homie

[crystal comet]

its not that long

1 week turnaround seems normal no?

[analog current]

i mean i got an offer from google to do one and im 1st year

theres no declining that

industry is poop balls

https://www.reddit.com/r/uwaterloo/comments/1aj98e6/waterlooworks_is_no_longer_what_it_used_to_be/

💔

[worldly ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-balanced-all-things-should-be-gif-18386496

[zenith eagle]

im happy loo mfers need to be debuffed a lot

[strange jay]

yo

is just getting bsc in cs for 3 years gon jeopardize when im trynna get mba or smt in the states

[azure junco]

UofT 🔛🔝

[turbid crater]

Why the rage bruh ?🥹

[turbid crater]

💯

[azure junco]

I went to uoft because I knew it would become the number 1 coop university in Canada (definitely not because waterloo rejected me)

[zenith eagle]

the guys who got into loo cs from my hs cheated a lot to get better grades, do better in math contests and more

also most loo kids ive met have been really toxic elitist and arrogant just for the fact that they were at loo

schaudenfruede i guess

[turbid crater]

I see

[turbid crater]

U arent wrong tbh I do feel a shame of my school cuz of that

[zenith eagle]

man i was so broken at the end of hs for getting deferred from cs -> math +coop and se -> ece

i did everythig from cs club prez at hs to math contests + robotics club + math club etc

[turbid crater]

Nevertheless, most people cheats. It’s all about not getting caught.

[zenith eagle]

also the kids who got in did music and that was a ez 100 from my hs

like u get 3 music courses per semester so it boosts ur grade so much

[turbid crater]

We call it confidence 😊

[zenith eagle]

oh well it's half a decade now but idk it still rlly stings ngl i spent all 4 years of hs for loo

it is what it is i guess

life goes on

[turbid crater]

I see, you wanted the loo ego

It’s ok comrade

[zenith eagle]

no i didn't want loo ego

just built it so much in my head and did everything i could but shit happens you know?

[turbid crater]

True

[zenith eagle]

also plus some rtarded lazy recruiters for internships even when i was extremely qualified rejected cuz they only hire loo kids (in canada as well like wtf)

[lapis tide]

pretend you go to loo

what would you say now

[zenith eagle]

whatever let me indulge in schaudenfreude

it's soooo sweet

[worldly ridge]

i go to uw becasue of the abgs

[azure junco]

I should get a showerhead and sink filter because the water here sucks

Is what I would say if I went to Waterloo

[zenith eagle]

i don't get the abg obsession with lash extensions esp when they're like literal wings

knew this girl in one of my grad course class and i stg whenever she blinked there's a gale force wind from her direction

https://tenor.com/view/blink-betty-boop-blinking-red-lips-gif-14852451

freaks me out

[lapis tide]

🥵

[worldly ridge]

@tight gale likes abgs so i like abgs

[zenith eagle]

i used to tease her everytime about it and she thought i was joking (i was not, i wish i told her straight up)

[analog current]

ive heard of people doing this

[zenith eagle]

yea but do abgs like u?

[worldly ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/sadge-cliff-sad-saaadge-gif-18209034

[zenith eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/titantyra-tiktok-gif-18786091

i think im an abg repeller based on the fact that i think boba is disgusting and only tastes good cuz of the ungodly amount of sugar in it

also why the fuck is it like $8 minimum it's just teaaaa

[lapis tide]

@zenith eagle send linkedin

[zenith eagle]

https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-costanza-5b2957135/

[analog current]

idk my friends just homemake it

[lapis tide]

no way geroge costanza lovers linkedin is goerge costanza

[zenith eagle]

i think the boba drinking experience includes regret of purchasing boba

u cant recreate that at home

[analog current]

not if u suck at making it

[zenith eagle]

tru

[analog current]

i don’t like the boba besides my apartment

[zenith eagle]

my roomie and i used to brew kombucha at home

in a big glass vinting vessel

[analog current]

that’s chill, my friends just make me boba and I’m chill with it

there’s a joint like literally outside my apartment

and idk how I feel about their boba

😭😭😭😭

[zenith eagle]

like this:

[analog current]

Wtf kinda wizard potion glass is that

[zenith eagle]

bitch was a pain to clean

it's 20 litres

[analog current]

😭😭😭 damn that’s huge

That sounds fun actually

[worldly ridge]

youg to boba not for boba

but for the abgs

but yeah boba is exp af

i dont buy it unless to cathc up withf riends

[zenith eagle]

if and when i find an abg without those funny and eerie lash extensions

i'll suffer through boba

but that's like a when pigs fly scenario

[drifting shore]

still cracked but no coop

[zenith eagle]

oh i also don't play league, dont care about gaming, dont care about kpop, not into raves (yet i think but i don't like huge crowds), etc etc

i'm the anti abg

[worldly ridge]

just live in asia

🧠

[lapis tide]

wait til andre hears about this

[zenith eagle]

i haven't been to a rave so i won cross it off entirely

i do like edm tho

[quartz ridge]

How’s Shopify?

[zenith eagle]

how's ur mom?

she still sore after last night?

[quartz ridge]

How’s Shopify? No RO?

You’re not meek

[quartz ridge]

Just judging based on these messages you’re low meek and high on aggression.

[lapis tide]

@quartz ridge how to increase meekness?

[quartz ridge]

Leetcode more

Talk about people’s mothers less

[lapis tide]

what is min threshold for next meek level

[quartz ridge]

And get RO to Shopify with higher frequency.

Speak with more grace and more character

Don’t belittle or berate

@zenith eagle Likely you are a good engineer, but poor social dynamics. Hence no RO…

[zenith eagle]

how's u about u worry about ur whore mom

[quartz ridge]

No need to be vulgar. Let’s focus on the important matters

[zenith eagle]

i don't need shopify ro cuz ur mom gave me an ro

[quartz ridge]

1. cope 2. my mom doesn’t like vulgar individuals

[hallow sapphire]

yall need to chill

[zenith eagle]

tsk tsk so estranged from your own mother that you know not of her happenings in life

[lapis tide]

@quartz ridge where to learn graphql?

[quartz ridge]

You appear socially inept. This may have hindered your RO.

[quartz ridge]

Check official documentation

[turbid crater]

Guys which is better Vancouver, Seattle or Menlo Park? Night life wise.

[turbid crater]

Bombastic side eye

https://tenor.com/view/sus-gif-2935799586198123294

[lapis tide]

option d

high meek low tool monkey8

[quartz ridge]

Vancouver everything closes very early

I would go with Seattle

[quartz ridge]

Facts.

[zenith eagle]

west coast not for socialization

esp cascadia they're just so asocial

mnpk is a giant suburb

[hallow sapphire]

seattle and menlo you'll get stabbed after 12 am

[turbid crater]

Damn, another boring summer

[hallow sapphire]

vancouver 4 am at night

I can walk around easy af

[zenith eagle]

congrats on meta offer? am i missing something don't think meta has a van ofis

[turbid crater]

Not if I stab first

[hallow sapphire]

nah they dont feel pain

[turbid crater]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-gif-27108854

[quartz ridge]

Van has no night life lol

Everything is closed

[turbid crater]

Bro I just want night life I’ll run if anything happens

[hallow sapphire]

nah there's stuff

usually just clubs and bars tho

not super hypy if that's what you're looking for

[quartz ridge]

It closes early tho like at 2

I lived there for a while

[hallow sapphire]

I live there now

montreal better tho

[quartz ridge]

Dude Montreal has nothing

Toronto has decent ish

Night life

[lapis tide]

monteral has no right turn rule

[quartz ridge]

On red ya

Lmaoo

[lapis tide]

if they remove that there would be night life and great cuisine

instead they have soggy fries

[quartz ridge]

Is Microsoft good

@azure junco

[drifting shore]

no

[quartz ridge]

wtf

[hallow sapphire]

eh I beg to differ

I can be drunk af at 3 am

and get food anywhere I want

[lapis tide]

can you get food at store that closes at 2:59 am

didnt think so

[quartz ridge]

Ok but Montreal < Toronto for night life

[hallow sapphire]

nah

[hallow sapphire]

yes

my house >:)

[quartz ridge]

Cap

Lmao

Montreal night life is mid

[hallow sapphire]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

ok

congratz 👏

[azure junco]

Depends on the meekness of your team

[quartz ridge]

Shopify isn’t as good as people make it out to be. Wealthsimple is better to be fair.

I’m waiting for decision

Probably didn’t get it because they usually take Loo people

[short marsh]

I think they said they'll start reaching out by mid February

[dusk ibex]

Waterloo

[quartz ridge]

Waterloo isn’t that good anymore

Places like York are better

For some people

People who are less ambitious

And@more lazy to find coop

This isn’t the case anymore

Lot of loo people are unemployed

There’s 50% unemployment in swe and cs rn

Ur talking about ppl in non coop stream right

Like no coop option

Pree sure u need 6

To graduate

But I’m saying loo isn’t a guarantee anymore

Before it basically was

Oh the dude deleted all his msgs

Dunno why lol

[turbid crater]

That’s just for coop student

Damn being the best is hard

Once you fall for a bit everyone’s on your back

I feel bad for loo kids 🥹

[turbid crater]

He couldn’t own his opinions maybe

[drifting shore]

need we accelerate

[quartz ridge]

Probably yeah. What he said was mostly invalid

[zenith eagle]

aren't u ft?

[turbid crater]

Bro is trynna blend in

[zenith eagle]

interns? yea ft? no

6 hours oa?

waht?

[quartz ridge]

They did the same thing last year?

Bruh

[zenith eagle]

if i recallit's just a take home no?'

wait they make u do ruby oa?

smart

[quartz ridge]

What’s ur TC

[zenith eagle]

one of the complaints in my intern class was the ramp up to learn ruby

[lapis tide]

docker

[turbid island]

did u have to change the ruby version they originally had

some packages didnt work with 2.7

[stable ravine]

how abt intern - > ft offer

[zenith eagle]

no

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-punpun-oyasumi-punpun-punpun-onodera-lico-licocore-gif-23014250

[crystal comet]

which team?

not frontend i hope

[quartz ridge]

Just curious

[vague totem]

Dyk if they are sending more offers?

[vague totem]

What did Tesla do?

[eternal fossil]

what didnt it do ?

[vague totem]

Like is it a bad place to work?

[quartz ridge]

Pretty bad lol

Unless autopilot

In which case goated

[wheat comet]

Netflix has bad future outlook

U can tell since they released games on netflix

[quartz ridge]

Netflix

s for sure lol

[magic cave]

Bro Into the Breach is bussing

[weak gazelle]

roblox is D tier

Tesla should be B tier

MSFT too

[magic cave]

I have a query

Can you answer me

The tierlist already exists: https://prestigehunt.com/

[weak gazelle]

3rd is Linkedin

[fossil field]

Why focus on prestige why no focus on get job

Take poo poo now, later money come

[magic cave]

Money is fleeting

Prestige is eternal

[lapis tide]

contests on microsoft

[magic cave]

I wanted Snowflake

But I had a frat party on Saturday

And that's when the OA expired

[weak gazelle]

congrats on frat

[magic cave]

Does loo have frats actually

Does anyone even know?

[sour lark]

yes

it does

[magic cave]

Thanks

[sour lark]

hoping

[hallow sapphire]

are you one of th epeople for the fall running?

or something among those lines?

[sour lark]

yes I am not cracked

[sour lark]

going for Fall yeah

[sour lark]

but I will be after cit 🤩

[drifting shore]

congrats on snowflake

[gilded charm]

do you guys use jobscan im hearing conflicted things about it

[quartz ridge]

tbh snowflake is A tier

not S tier

logo increase its tier list

is snowflake even hard to get in?

heard it wasnt that hard lol

anynoe know how to use the yield keyword in python?

dont get it at all

tbh

can someone show me an example of it

[magic cave]

It's like mini return

[magic cave]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/231767/what-does-the-yield-keyword-do-in-python

[crystal comet]

makes function return a generator

pretty sexy

[quartz ridge]

thank u

why would u want a generator

did u guys know about this already

or is this new to u

i saw yield but never dug into the nitty crabi

[magic cave]

griddy

[crystal comet]

lets you do stuff lazily

like filter or map

like how much space do u think map(lambda x: x * 2, range(1000000000000)) uses

well actually this is kinda a bad example because they're moreso just iterators than generators i think

but also something like sum(x * 2 for x in some_list)

(x * 2 for x in some_list) makes a generator which sum iterates over

and since it's a generator you don't have to make a whole list of length len(some_list) to sum over

[quartz ridge]

how is this a generator

this is jsut list comprehension no?

i thought yield makes the generator

[crystal comet]

no

[x * 2 for x in some_list] is a list comprehension

(x * 2 for x in some_list) is a generator expression

generators are just objects there's multiple ways of making them

[quartz ridge]

oh ok

thats cool

[hallow sapphire]

ya I know like 3 other people in the process

gl

[tender coral]

Are you in interview? Or offer already accepted? I’m currently about do an OA for them any tips?

[drifting shore]

its auto so u need 100%

[tender coral]

Ah makes sense cause I got it same day, is it supposed to be hard, I’m doing the launch internship one any difference between that and the normal one?

Hopefully easy 💀

Makes sense still have a couple days to do it luckily

Did anyone do a Cisco OA, and did you receive anything from them

[crystal comet]

gg ez

either a good sign or a horrible sign

[fossil field]

lol i just got executive access to the servers and firewall profile

[drifting shore]

ghost after oa for two years

[vague totem]

oh fuck. any first years? and did any have refferals?

if yk

[stable ravine]

ng?

[vague totem]

yes i got an email saying i am in the running 2 weeks after then in dec got rejected

rbc...

[tender coral]

Sounds like Cisco is lazy, their FAQ said there’s no confirmation on completion and not expect anything lmao

[vague totem]

its joever

[tender coral]

Am done for if I haven’t received a Shopify interview yet?

[vague totem]

prolly ngl

[tender coral]

Or is it on a rolling basis

[vague totem]

they look at ur application on a rolling basis but it wouldnt make sense to rolling hire. cuz then u would just over or underhire

maybe. this is just uni applications all over again

[tender coral]

Oh shit yeah that makes sense they hinted that the faster you did the faster you would get a response

[crystal comet]

i think they're like mega behavioral

technical is last round

[tender coral]

8 years ago but the website also says the same thing tbh

[crystal comet]

less thna 1% of people they interview wtf

[vague totem]

bruh

[crystal comet]

more like less than 1% get an offer then less than 1% of those make it thru the layoffs

[vague totem]

shopify layoffs are scary ngl

skeleton company

getting the offer is the struggle

apparently most ppl layed off were all ppl who cashed out shopify and were just chilling

[tender coral]

Less than 1% ? I think he pulled that out of his ass Ngl

They have a technical interview portion tho?

[stable ravine]

you have to explain one of your prev project

[quartz ridge]

i got asked about yield and some pandas stuff in my interview.flunked it

[tender coral]

No way are you guys serious?

[stable ravine]

but you gotta pass the life interview tho its rng

[tender coral]

Damn that’s actually kinda cool honestly

[quartz ridge]

nah but issue with shopify

is that

they have a dev degree program

that lets ppl get like 4 years of experiecne

from graduating uni

lol

and u dont even do an interview

so u get a free guaranteed shopify 4 YOE on resume

bc u do it at same time as uni xDDDDDDD

[tender coral]

Dev degree sounds good but it doesn’t seem like they have a lot of people in the program

[fossil field]

yea no, if you are an average dev you wont be making it in

[vague totem]

theres been horror stories ive seen on reddit

like ppl getting fired

[crystal comet]

it's not about dev experience

it's almost enitrely life experience

u can get in without any cs exp

[magic cave]

How would you be an above average dev from high school lol

[vague totem]

plus now at york u dont even get like a cs degree

[vague totem]

u dont hence why ppl get kicked from the program

[crystal comet]

it's 10

10 at york 10 at carleton i think

[tender coral]

Damn basically a lottery wtf

Can’t believe Carleton is in the program and not uottawa

[fossil field]

yea i know, not talking about dev on the job experience

like if you are just an average developer/problem solver

and by average i mean like average of people our age

[sour lark]

interviewing oa is two lc meds

[tender coral]

Thanks appreciate that bro 🙏

[sour lark]

do the questions in the #leetcode-bot channel

[analog current]

Good salary range per hour for frontend developer intern in Canada?

[magic cave]

$25-30 probably

What's a good bench for swe intern in Canada

[fossil field]

put exactly what you texted in google. You will literally get exact results

[fossil field]

just try to get at least 25$/h

[magic cave]

What's that in lbs

[vivid fiber]

180lbs

[quartz ridge]

20-25$/hour

in canada

[analog current]

Yeah, saw some but was wondering what the overal vibe here was

[analog current]

Alright, thanks!

[analog current]

Got it

[magic cave]

I hit this at UofC

[vivid fiber]

Nice

[wheat comet]

180lbs is junior dev level

Must hit 225 min

[weak gazelle]

Hedge fund based in NYC

[stone osprey]

I guess what you need to ask is what the details of data analyst role are

If it’s something you like (even remotely) and the skills are transferable + plus you have time before you graduate

I’ll take manulife and make soft dev projects on the side

That will be a solid profile to put your foot through the door in a good company with soft dev role

If you don’t think the skills are transferrals and you’re just gonna do it for the name then I’ll take the smaller company

Generally you should prioritize skills over name in the first internships but since manulife is big. I think changing that rule a bit is fine

[kind hazel]

if second is a tech company then +1 for that option. A lot of non tech big company internships kinda means u sit around getting ur money without really doing any work. Although that is fun, its not really the best for u CV at the end of the day

[solid flame]

Is there a list of canadian companies that do fall/winter internships?

[solid flame]

[simple python]

yo guys rbc t&o pays 30 nowadays?

am i getting scammed

[proven carbon]

Per hour??

[simple python]

yeah

[analog current]

That’s actually good

[analog current]

Wait you got Rbc offer?

[quartz ridge]

30/hr is a fuck ton

for rbc lmao

[azure junco]

least busy engineer

at least they gave you an hour for lunch everyday 🥺 so thoughtful

[real island]

That’s on the higher end for rbc wym being scammed

[simple python]

i thought rbc was always low 20s

[simple python]

yeah yesterday

[strange jay]

Ayo 1 question

Uwo cs & ivey hba undergrad in 5 yrs vs uwo cs in 3yrs & georgia tech masters cs in 2 yrs

[round prairie]

Congratulations!!
What role is it?

[analog current]

Are you taking the offer?

[stone osprey]

Congratulations! What role

[proven carbon]

My friend did atco and got around 30 per hour

Mines a no name and 27 perhour

[vague totem]

Option 2

[vague totem]

have quora offers come out?

[turbid crater]

So happy I didn’t get into cs or Eng

I’m just chilling in math getting swe jobs

[analog current]

This is an old one from 2011 lmao

[azure junco]

No lunch anymore ☹️

[analog current]

😦

[sour lark]

it gets better

[soft hamlet]

lol what, last summer they were paying 25

gg

I'm waiting for offer please

[soft hamlet]

what is this ...

this is mine

[sour lark]

I got offered 28 last fall

[soft hamlet]

this is too confusing

[analog current]

old ece schedule

[soft hamlet]

What year standing?

[sour lark]

was 3rd

[soft hamlet]

ahhhh

I'm in second

[rain mantle]

is that for a 4 month term? cuz ik they more for a longer term
lst yr i got offer 28 for yr long but 4 month ppl got 25

[tough knot]

It depends on year

I know a masters student getting $30, most second years are ~26

[rain mantle]

idk i was second yr when i got the offer

[tough knot]

no clue then

[rain mantle]

it just made sense in my head for a longer term to be more pay since u cant get any raise

if u were to just come back 2 times for 4 month each

[stone osprey]

I think they increased wages

Inflation is real y’all