its dumb that ur gonna pay a bunch of money
#canada
ashen mason
R asking if you should get a degree or not?
tawny zephyr
no if ur canadian citizen
upper linden
is yes auto reject?
tawny zephyr
not sure
upper linden
i thought it was some J-1 or some shit ye?
tawny zephyr
H1-b is fulltime
lost lark
is yes auto reject?
No
ruby ridge
H1-b is just an example they listed
upper linden
just need to be able to work for 3 months in the summer
lost lark
Are you coop
upper linden
ye
lost lark
You should be ok but ask your coop advisor
tawny zephyr
i heard they dont help
upper linden
ok with what? so i choose yes?
lost lark
Choose no for now
upper linden
i dont have citizenship tho
lost lark
You should be ok with a study permit
upper linden
aight
lost lark
Idr how it works
tawny zephyr
if they're talking in terms of fulltime
upper linden
tawny zephyr
hes not ok
upper linden
lol
tawny zephyr
if hes not a citizen
lost lark
Oh
upper linden
so no for this ye? 😔
tawny zephyr
@upper linden I think for you its Yes No
tawny zephyr
If u were citizen then I think it'd be a No No
tough knot
yes
quartz ridge
R asking if you should get a degree or not?
I’m asking if I should continue my degree with bad grades but to learn and complete it
tawny zephyr
mans basically collecting FAANG like candy
upper linden
this guy interned at Google
he is canadian citizen tho no?
tawny zephyr
@tough knot can u refer me plz
tawny zephyr
he is canadian citizen tho no?
yea
ask him
hes so smart
like
hes crazy
cracked
tough knot
lmfao, I’m practically unemployed
tawny zephyr
@tough knot enlighten us
upper linden
with my current internships, I feel like im a corporate slave ;/
gotta get free from this shit
tough knot
I’m moving over to finance 
tough knot
guys what should i pick for this?
yes for this
upper linden
yea i figured
tough knot
if u cant succeed in tech u wont succeed in finance
finance is easier
upper linden
I’m moving over to finance <:nerd2:1085056953170014218>
wha like quant?
tough knot
quant aint easy at all
yeahh
tawny zephyr
its true though
tough knot
once I get Jane street swe, I’ll switch over prob
teal remnant
with my current internships, I feel like im a corporate slave ;/
Where @
tawny zephyr
once I get Jane street swe, I’ll switch over prob
if u get that better refer me
ashen mason
I’m asking if I should continue my degree with bad grades but to learn and compl...
Yep absolutely finish it. It opens way more doors just having it.
tough knot
if u get that better refer me
Id be lucky to get ibm let alone Jane street 💀
tawny zephyr
Id be lucky to get ibm let alone Jane street 💀
IBM is aight
gl tho
markets tuff rn
I am searching too
tough knot
Rather work at Nokia or something
tough knot
I am searching too
I’m looking for Fall
tough knot
I am still hoping for summer
A lot of places still opening up positions
tawny zephyr
yeah
tough knot
that’s cap
ashen mason
I’m asking if I should continue my degree with bad grades but to learn and compl...
I don't have degree and I still think about going back to finish it. And I already work at faang 🙃
rugged spade
AYO
rugged spade
Yo I went to the Cohere booth at Uoft hacks today.
how was it
fluid harness
it was alright. they lowkey didnt want to be there so the interaction was kinda mid
rugged spade
it was alright. they lowkey didnt want to be there so the interaction was kinda ...
who did u speak to lol
fluid harness
the asian girl did
magic ether
where is pork
turbid crater
Yo I went to the Cohere booth at Uoft hacks today.
I see
neon imp
Why is everyone and their mom at a conference rn ?
Idk but I’m at Toronto for a conference rn and I wanna check out the cohere booth
neon imp
101 college st, Toronto
Which conference?
fluid harness
its myhal
turbid crater
101 college st, Toronto
Im in loo bro 🥲
weak gazelle
flex
mint gorge
Average uoft student
weak gazelle
Least larping Zon + loo combo
turbid crater
weak gazelle
Grats on meta Facebook and instagram @turbid crater
turbid crater
Ty Ty
Congrats on Tesla, spaceX, Twitter
@weak gazelle
And meta
😦
Bro got Apple too
Damn
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lapis tide
tf is a stop and shop
turbid crater
Bro is selling the Boston dream
wheat comet
it was alright. they lowkey didnt want to be there so the interaction was kinda ...
yea the cohere booth at htn was the same
even the guy we had presented to for the cohere prize
only the cofounder ivan was upbeat
fluid harness
only the cofounder ivan was upbeat
damn ivan was there
wheat comet
yea we presented to him for the general awards
fluid harness
its jover for summer 2024
wheat comet
but there were a bunch of other founders that could have been our judge
neon imp
Just visited the uoft hackathon, I was expecting more people
wet rapids
🏠 Temporary accommodation available for one/ two people in a studio apartment.
...
How much do you expect from the tenant?
silver mirage
How much do you expect from the tenant?
1400 dollars
wet rapids
1400 dollars
I see. I was just curious. Thank you
quartz ridge
I don't have degree and I still think about going back to finish it. And I alrea...
Impressive ur at Zon right
neon imp
I’m not uoft student. I walked in, had no issues.
People at rbc booth were kind of rude but rest were nice
The booths? I think so
I left like 15 mins ago after walking around a couple times
quartz ridge
What I seek is not to become one of this kind of peoples: 1. Tool monkey who do not know computer architecture, compiler, os. 2. Leetcode monkey who can pass meta screen but perform like a junior. No code review, small scope, poor knowledge of codebase (abstraction on top of abstraction never check code as source of truth, chauffeur knowledge). Poor coding, rely on AI for all, uses Gmail version control over git. 3. Senior dev with junior soft skills. Competent dev but no leadership or soft skill or team connection. No mentorship
Can I get proper response?
neon imp
I sent you the building in dm
real island
I’m not uoft student. I walked in, had no issues.
Yeo 💀
Don’t you gotta buy a ticket
real island
?
real island
Don’t you gotta buy a ticket
^
neon imp
😅
stable ravine
hows it going canada
hallow sapphire
1400 dollars
`Oh, I might be down for it
ivory pond
Es ist over für mich
quartz ridge
Hey guys
If ur a QA engineer or SWE
Just curious if it worth to learn some Hadoop’s
Or HBase?
fossil field
its always useful to know but not going all the way into it
fresh fog
wouldn’t say useful but def interesting
turbid crater
Es ist over für mich
Maybe
quartz ridge
Ah ok cool
quartz ridge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z7P6AhxoSA&t=3861s
Sickkkkk
Who is ur fav artist?
Quick question
Is it weird to ask ur coworkers how much they make?
Is this a weird question??
fossil field
Is it weird to ask ur coworkers how much they make?
nah my first week i asked my one coworker how much he makes lol
fossil field
Who is ur fav artist?
indira paganotto, 999999999, lilly palmer, jay lumen will always be goat
mochakk, eli brown for tech house
and spencer dunning
quartz ridge
nah my first week i asked my one coworker how much he makes lol
Lmaooowas it same as u
worldly ridge
Is it weird to ask ur coworkers how much they make?
i mean its prety taboo in the west in general, but i wouldnt mind
quartz ridge
Do u like Alan walker
quartz ridge
i mean its prety taboo in the west in general, but i wouldnt mind
Ohh ok
fossil field
not really into the melodic tech
fossil field
more into berlin hardstyle techno
fossil field
and techno psytrance
fossil field
25/h is average for intern i would say
fossil field
anything is better than no intership
and i know people who did intership for free
went into office 5 days a week
worldly ridge
I missed these times 
Wonder what landlords were smoking, I want some of that too
vivid fiber
Wonder what landlords were smoking, I want some of that too
Probably money
Since they charge so much of it 😃
worldly ridge
you know...your onto something...
fossil field
Guy got taken advantage of m8
no shit but when you have no other option u gotta do what u gotta do
fossil field
name any other way to network
have you been trying to network?
lapis tide
i have not
neon imp
name any other way to network
I met a guy in person from this server today, does that count?
azure junco
went into office 5 days a week
this is unironically illegal in canada 
fossil field
it literally is legal
azure junco
In BC its not
illegal in ontario too unless it's done for course credit
fossil field
yup it was done for course credit
wheat comet
I met a guy in person from this server today, does that count?
Who , can i meet up too
sour lark
terse burrow
Anyone hear back from shopify yet
neon imp
Who , can i meet up too
Where ya at?
wheat comet
Where ya at?
Any where in the GTA I’ll be there
magic ether
But I was making 32 k before
thats 16/h
glossy condor
what is the point of the wiley edge program for graduates if not to hire grads AND upcoming grads
nokia job postings is actually insane
50 coop/internships, 0 new grad
hallow sapphire
yup it was done for course credit
that's different, that's not an internship but a practicum iirc
azure junco
yup it was done for course credit
5 days unpaid in office for a course credit is actually fucked up
what uni allowed this 😭
lapis tide
uoft
round prairie
Anyone hear back from shopify yet
Rejected af
stable ravine
Anyone hear back from shopify yet
ghosted
slim girder
Rejected af
Same 👍🏽
normal parcel
https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/s/H4dUGuLZa4
bruh how
worldly ridge
https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/s/H4dUGuLZa4
its joever
see you all in the TTC
actualy im gonna start my encapment infront of @weak gazelle harbor front house
weak gazelle
actualy im gonna start my encapment infront of <@678481172409352194> harbor fron...
least larping 140k TCer in Canada
boreal sentinel
free up nulname
frozen brook
Anyone hear back from shopify yet
nahhh
fossil field
5 days unpaid in office for a course credit is actually fucked up
It’s the company it’s fucked but hey better than nothing right especially when you go to a low tier uni
raw rampart
analog current
How tf he get your code 😭
dense moss
all the PRs are public
analog current
Oh bruh
dense moss
troll system
analog current
Gg bros gonna get banned from ever applying to shopify
dense moss
nah they probs wont even know LOL
analog current
Fr broken system
terse burrow
LOL no way bruh thats crazy
vague totem
someone straight ripped my code for the Shopify OA
what assignment did u pick?
if my workflow awaiting approval is that bad?
is first year possible at shopify if i can do LC and have a referral and did like decent on their oa
mint gorge
https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/s/H4dUGuLZa4
Does everyone here just exaggerate the amount of times they applied
round prairie
someone straight ripped my code for the Shopify OA
Bruhh Samee
I was surprised that they would allow this🤦♂️
real island
someone straight ripped my code for the Shopify OA
Shopify is so dumb why is all the work even public
Any company Ive applied to makes the repos private
magic cave
I ripped someone's code and got an interview last year
quartz ridge
hi everyone
looking for a quick query
anyone can do a response
would be nice
so my query is this:
magic cave
Why do you seem so different from 2 days ago?
quartz ridge
if you are a new grad in canada in 2023, what is considered average TC? what is top 25% TC? top 10% TC?
please tell me?
just have a quick query for you all friend
real island
please tell me?
No
quartz ridge
just have a query i put above, if someone want to do a chime in and let me know about job market state would be great.
here i will list the query again:
if you are a new grad in canada in 2023, what is considered average TC? what is top 25% TC? top 10% TC?
just have a query i put above, if someone want to do a chime in and let me know about job market state would be great.
here i will list the query again:
if you are a new grad in canada in 2023, what is considered average TC? what is top 25% TC? top 10% TC?
you mock me? will tell juda..
quartz ridge
```
if you are a new grad in canada in 2023, what is considered average TC? what...
we want to make foster a vibrant and healthy community... not one that is built on mockery and virtue signal
magic cave
But let me check the stats
magic cave
quartz ridge
this is base right
magic cave
quartz ridge
oh its after tax income
magic cave
Yeah
magic cave
117
quartz ridge
tax is suually 30%
so 93/0.7
132k
ah they have bad clustering so
15-24
most ppl new grad 22-23
wish they had a more granular separation
and pretax is better bc
well, most province have diff tax levy
ok 22-24
magic cave
Also this was in 2021
Oh I didn't even see the 15 to 24 column
That is Yandere Dev levels of clustering
quartz ridge
haha
yeah i wish you could adjust how it is bucketed
so in 2021 top 10% is around 135k pretax
so this include like base, (stock?), bonus
and bonus usually is like 10-15%
its prob even higher now
2 years of inflation 😭
magic cave
Not everyone gets stock bonuses
quartz ridge
@fossil field does this align with what u are think?
yes
like c1 do not do a stock
cohere i think no stock
magic cave
I mean like non-techies
quartz ridge
is this data for swe
magic cave
It's for regular people
There aren't 15 year old SWEs. . .
You'd probably have to look on glass door to be specific, or dig deeper into the datasets the Canadian government uses
quartz ridge
There aren't 15 year old SWEs. . .
there are
just not many
there are 15 yo interns
magic cave
placid dawn
hows job frens
azure junco
```
if you are a new grad in canada in 2023, what is considered average TC? what...
we want to make foster a vibrant and healthy community... not one that is built on mockery and virtue signal
lapis tide
yeah
quartz ridge
so my query is this:
candidate A) 500 leetcode, but poor actual dev skills vs candidate B) 5 leetcode but good dev skills. who wins?
in short term + long run?
who will win the ladder climbing rat race
ashen mason
A wins because they can crack any company and just be perma ramping up
Then jump to next before get pip'd
quartz ridge
Then jump to next before get pip'd
so it's possible to make it in industry just by knowing leetcode and system design
and overall being a bad dev?
lapis tide
i'm high
magic cave
You still need to actually land OAs and interviews though, and listing 1500 leetcode completion isn't what companies are screening for
lapis tide
except my company
quartz ridge
You still need to actually land OAs and interviews though, and listing 1500 leet...
but once u break in
to a decent company
interviews will come right?
quartz ridge
<@1130686263654101012> are u international
i am from singapore
current a barista at starbuck and grind leetcode after work shift
magic ether
ok trueee
quartz ridge
kk
do uk if they nego pay
@magic ether
can i bump up fro like
25 -> 27?
is it worth it to learn R or Julia
or R STudio
or is this awaste of brain power
what about something like Hadoop
or HBase or HDFS
is it worth it
like serious answers only here.
lapis tide
how is your handle on oop?
quartz ridge
decent yes
like not bad
i can write a class inpython.
im looking into maximizing learning rn.
magic ether
bro learn the basics first then
what are 4 major oop concepts?
define them
if u can do 500 leet and can only write a class in python like damn
magic ether
ye
but?
like if thats the only thing u know?
then dman
damn*
u need to practice!
use java or c++ or something
lapis tide
i disagree
magic ether
whats ur opinion
worthy orbit
like if thats the only thing u know?
hes trolling
lapis tide
"hes trolling" -
magic ether
oh true
worthy orbit
"hes trolling" - <:nerd2:1085056953170014218>
job?
lapis tide
job
magic ether
reall
analog current
stone osprey
Is there a list for new grad positions
stable ravine
No one's hiring ngs in canada
fossil field
yea for new grad positions you shouldnt even be asking about tc, you take what you can get
in canada anyways
stone osprey
Can you link this please?
fossil field
yea thats the thing thats why they try being so polite in the emails so that once we get skill and experience they want us to come back
but im like no fuck that ill remember each and every one of yous
mhm tech market is shit compared to us
there is no tc just base for the majority of people
quartz ridge
wait but dont most US new grads make ike 120k
USD
vs canada it's like 60k cad
nah
no chance lol
no
not a chance
most new grad sin us
make way more than 60k
in canada that is believable
huge doubt for us
quartz ridge
u believe average US new grad make 60k?
quartz ridge
why tho?
if u look in the offer channel
us location
almost all 100k+
tc
easily
fossil field
because not everyone grinds and goes to top 15 cs schools
quartz ridge
even something like IBM right
fossil field
yes exactly thats the few people not everyone
fossil field
majority arent in ibm tho
fossil field
This server is a bubble
yup
vivid fiber
then Amazon is like top of top then
Amazon is the top of the top...
They pay 160~200k outta uni
That is a top tier wage
It is in the top 1% of companies
fossil field
yea most seniors here arent making that much
vivid fiber
For swes
fossil field
most seniors making 110-140
vivid fiber
quartz ridge
ok
but amazon has got lot of hate in last 2 years
from low hiring bar and overhiring
the value of the name Amazon is not what it once was
fossil field
yea and thats why they have mass layoffs
fossil field
we are in recession so we are going to have high high high unemployment rate
quartz ridge
<@1130686263654101012>
https://www.indeed.com/career/entry-level-software-engin...
https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/united-states 172 k according to levels
levels
there are grossly different numbers
depending on what source u use
vivid fiber
https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/united-states 172 k accordi...
Levels is not a good indicator
fossil field
depends on where you are located
vivid fiber
Levels is self reported
fossil field
higher col = higher salary
vivid fiber
Plus skews towards sweats
quartz ridge
the difference between 172 k and 60 k doesn't make sense
vivid fiber
Glassdoor says this
fossil field
just know majority of new grad and juniors are making 50k-80k range
vivid fiber
Which is higher
quartz ridge
so it could be anywhere from 60k to 110 k
so how are we so sure that it is 60k @safe light
most interns will get 50k
analog current
analog current
What did they see
vivid fiber
🥺
analog current
Bro I haven’t had instant noodles in forever
vivid fiber
Bro I haven’t had instant noodles in forever
Same
I'm out of the mud
Moved on from instant noodles
To pb&j
analog current
Moved on to “noodles”
vivid fiber
salt and rice is cheaper
I ditched noodles
Becuz 2 much sodium
So rice + soy sauce isn't rlly wat i want
analog current
I honestly only have noodles since my friends like them
worldly ridge
noodles are fire though
fossil field
yea but dw you start off with 60k then after a year you can ask for a 10k increase or if you are really good 80k and if you want more then you apply for different company
quartz ridge
but i heard most new grads will get offers from 60-80 k
as in 1 std deviation from the mean
and then there are som outliers that are less and some that are more
fossil field
my friend was making 56k and then worked a year then applied for new company now makes 90k
quartz ridge
there are not many relative well known companies
that pay 50k
even if its not a top tier one
fossil field
most people arent getting into well known companies..
yea and most are uoft and waterloo for the top pays
and even then they arent making too much
boreal sentinel
sky is always the limit for top 10%
vivid fiber
but i heard most new grads will get offers from 60-80 k
I only had one job offer in Canada
It was a no-name company for 70k
boreal sentinel
i have 0
vivid fiber
All the good companies I was interviewing for stopped due to layoffs
But they would've prob paid at least 120k
hallow sapphire
https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/united-states 172 k accordi...
its using all data if u look below
vivid fiber
@safe light i just checked payscale
Apparently I'm making 50k less than the avg in sf
Crazy
I thot 40k was a good wage 😔
quartz ridge
It was a no-name company for 70k
yes what i am saying is
most somewhat known company will have higher comp
vivid fiber
include ur base and stock?
No stock lmao
vivid fiber
most somewhat known company will have higher comp
Yea but they're not that many somewhat known companies hiring in Canada lol
fossil field
u dont get stock for a no name company lol and for most companies
magic ether
tragic country we live in
vivid fiber
Heck even the "somewhat known" ones dont pay that great
magic ether
tbh
quartz ridge
id argue most people end up working for a company that people in tech have heard of
i rarely see someone working for an absoulte no namer
vivid fiber
Like hootsuite pays atrocious
fossil field
not most juniors and not in canada
vivid fiber
And they're somewhat lmown
vivid fiber
id argue most people end up working for a company that people in tech have heard...
No
Absolutely wrong
fossil field
pork if you are looking for what you are saying you should be looking into moving to the us
vivid fiber
Most people work for random companies
Or non-tech
I feel like your opinions are based off this server
analog current
i just want an amazon return offer and then to move on after that
vivid fiber
Which is not accurate lmoa
magic ether
Soulkks, if u dont mind, how did you get ur current job? Did u just randomly apply?
vivid fiber
its based off linkedin
Also not accurate lmao
analog current
quartz ridge
Also not accurate lmao
how so?
vivid fiber
Soulkks, if u dont mind, how did you get ur current job? Did u just randomly app...
I got reach out
quartz ridge
linkedin has basically everyone appying to jobs
most people who job search will have linkedin
basically contains everyones resume
vivid fiber
linkedin has basically everyone appying to jobs
Not everyone uses LinkedIn...
magic ether
LinkedIn is for ppl who want to advance their careers
fossil field
and its for whole tech market not just canada
quartz ridge
most people do
fossil field
if u look at canada numbers get a lot worse
quartz ridge
most people who are even semi serious
about finding a decent job
will use linkedin
this is what surprise me
SAP i thought is meh company
in vancouver their base is 100k+
fossil field
new grad and junior base?
worldly ridge
Like hootsuite pays atrocious
noo way how much do they pay
quartz ridge
even tho i heard its not such competitive
fossil field
well its 0 now since no one is hiring and mass layoffs
vivid fiber
noo way how much do they pay
Idr but like 70k for entry
fossil field
which means salaries will drop
magic ether
SAP is solid
fossil field
pork what u are saying is somewhat valid for 2020-2022 but not anymore
magic ether
yeah 2024 is just different man
quartz ridge
pork what u are saying is somewhat valid for 2020-2022 but not anymore
like salary is lower?
fossil field
yes
quartz ridge
i think lot of company acc lowered
like stripe/bloomberg
cut their ng pay by like 50k
no joke........
magic ether
salary lower, harder to get a job. too many ppl in cs 😭
fossil field
since more competition and no more more 0% interest free money
vivid fiber
@quartz ridge where r u workin rn
magic ether
i forgot are u gradded @quartz ridge
magic ether
yeah man i would just try to extend
magic ether
to get at least one internship
quartz ridge
still jobless with 6 internship
fossil field
apply to anything dont apply to just new grad and junior
magic ether
would u wanna come back?
quartz ridge
dont thye have huge drug and burglary problem
and robbery in broad daylight?
i heard south SF
magic ether
my plan is grind for America, go for like 5-7 years
quartz ridge
is terrible
fossil field
me too but usa is in deep shit especially sf and la and cali in general
dont go to america
i lived there 15 years
magic ether
yeah in general canadian cities are MUCH safer
fossil field
its not the same anymore
its not... ive been
way way way worse than anything in toronto
fossil field
oh yea?
quartz ridge
maybe go to us in a couple years down the line
fossil field
for ur job?
quartz ridge
r there lot of asians in sf
fossil field
how are you living off of 60k 💀
magic ether
isn't sf like super like boxed off, so if u live in a nice area ur okay, but just a few blocks over theres hella crime? Its like that in Chicago
fossil field
bruh
quartz ridge
i think u need 100k to even live in SF
fossil field
how much u make
quartz ridge
the col is very high...
quartz ridge
if he in the US he prob go to a top one
probably like ubc, loo, u t
either that or he got a cracked coop
no other way to get a us one to bring u in
magic ether
i mean ye
quartz ridge
yes thats normal
but that gives u paved road to us
that is ur golden ticket to acc get interview
magic ether
was that thru networking? Im not really sure how to even start 😭
real users on it?
nice!
quartz ridge
how does a project become an inteerview
unless u showcase it
to like a recruiter
or hm
worthy orbit
i banned him for lying. I know him irl he lives in his moms basement
quartz ridge
oh why did u ban him?
he was just having a conversation ..?
no reason to ban him...
worthy orbit
bruh im kdding
vivid fiber
Thanks for unbanning
quartz ridge
oh ur back
fossil field
lmao
vivid fiber
@worthy orbit
fossil field
yall too much
quartz ridge
sorry about ur ban man
vivid fiber
Rlly banned me as a joke
quartz ridge
u really did not do a destructive convo.
fossil field
i need to go ball up now
fossil field
vape just died...
vivid fiber
how often should we job hop?
Depends
quartz ridge
to maximizie the income growing
vivid fiber
On what you want
vivid fiber
to maximizie the income growing
Depends
fossil field
for starting, every 1 year for first 3 years
ideally first job 1 year, second job 2 years, then after try and stay longer
vivid fiber
On the company you work for, area, etc
It's not really generalized advice one can give
Like it could be better to stay at a single company for 3+ years if they have fast promos
Or maybe best to get a promo and immediately hop
quartz ridge
what if company has very slow promo?
quartz ridge
Or maybe best to get a promo and immediately hop
u mean get promo for better title
and then use that title on resume?
fossil field
what if company has very slow promo?
then you hop, like i will have to do
vivid fiber
Then start looking immediately
fossil field
but get something lined up first
quartz ridge
wait why get promo and hop
promo will give u more money
so dont u stay when u get promo
quartz ridge
by updating ur title on ur resume right
fossil field
urgh
quartz ridge
like u can put
vivid fiber
by updating ur title on ur resume right
U dont even hav 2 do dat
quartz ridge
SWE 1 -> SWE 2
vivid fiber
U can jus tell da recruiter durin nego
vivid fiber
Anyway i mus go
fossil field
same
weak gazelle
pls dm @fossil field
weak gazelle
worldly ridge
❤️
quartz ridge
though i think u are not the right person to thank
can i ask u all another question?
fossil field
shoot
magic ether
if anyone has time any advice? #1200974045454270626 message thanks :3
quartz ridge
my question is
is it worht getting a devops or data analytics cert
if im just doing swe
or is it acomplete wast eof itme?
stable ravine
or is it acomplete wast eof itme?
waste of time
magic ether
probs waste of time, theyre nice skills to have but just make a proj with them i think
fossil field
or is it acomplete wast eof itme?
waste of time
magic ether
like make a project deploying to cloud and k8s
quartz ridge
i see
magic ether
probs a much better use of time
fossil field
learn the general concepts but the cert is a waste of time
quartz ridge
like make a project deploying to cloud and k8s
do u know flux cd?
i heard its OP.
they need to hotfix it soon
magic ether
never used
magic ether
i just depoloyed on k8s at work one time, AKS
quartz ridge
EKS?
quartz ridge
i just depoloyed on k8s at work one time, AKS
can i ask u
what tech stack is kinaxis?
magic ether
depends on team
magic ether
some teams is react
quartz ridge
also ur resume is maxed out
magic ether
my team was algo dev
quartz ridge
for ur current exp
magic ether
i did only C++
and modified one groovy script
for testing
kinaxis' main product is built only in c++
and then the UI is java or javascript
they have 2
magic ether
yeah it was fun
weak gazelle
porkml what project were u assigned to at netflix?
quartz ridge
no angular?
quartz ridge
porkml what project were u assigned to at netflix?
im unemployed?
magic ether
id have to ask someone
quartz ridge
u are make me a joke right now? @weak gazelle
quartz ridge
id have to ask someone
cool thanks
i would love to work on c++
embeddded system
have u used think like apache airflow or kafka
magic ether
yeah its fun but only 1 posting is C++ now i think
quartz ridge
or something like spark?
quartz ridge
that is use for data distirbution right
magic ether
ETL
its nice if you have a flow you want to follow and dont want to make a bunch of API calls to other internal systems
quartz ridge
whats ur fav tech stack?
quartz ridge
ill tell u mine
magic ether
im mostly backend dev
magic ether
ye ye
quartz ridge
and i like to use react/gql
quartz ridge
but yeah i also like to learn some devops with terraform, k8s and pulumi
magic ether
and caching and stuff
lapis tide
beefsteak
magic ether
idk most of my work has been in a bunch of different languages
never used aws
only Azure
quartz ridge
imo one of the oly certs worth getting
is aws
or gcp
or maybe azure
aws prob is
highest yield!
magic ether
i dont think certs are worth
unless ur in like cybersec
or devops
like its probably better to build a proj in the time ud get certs
normal jetty
like its probably better to build a proj in the time ud get certs
Even aws cert ?
stable ravine
Even aws cert ?
I have 2x no one gives a shit
magic ether
certs take a lot of time and its hard to prove u know anything
magic ether
with a project u can show u really built something with it
normal jetty
But I guess not worth then
stable ravine
but in cybersec and devops they care about that
only thing that they care abt right now is yoe and nothing else (Not talking abt internships)
magic ether
yeah i guess rn is different than a couple years ago
fossil field
only thing that they care abt right now is yoe and nothing else (Not talking abt...
this is true
you will have people with 5+ yoe applying for junior/entry level positions
with a vast number of immigrants that will take any job for any pay
fossil field
well yea most people getting laid off need any job
its employers market rn
and will be for at least the next year sadly
azure junco
i see a lot of SWE 1s that are like 25+
I saw a few that were 40+
azure junco
Yes
gilded charm
Guys rentals in Canada are crazy
magic ether
quartz ridge
for example if u live in downtown toronto ur chilling
magic ether
downtown toronto is stupid expensive
magic ether
thats jan 2024
worldly ridge
I wish i was born 15 years earlier too
gilded charm
<@857716528254156821> where are u looking?
I’m in yyc but been applying elsewhere too
worldly ridge
gyatt i would be retire dnow
gilded charm
Was looking Vancouver Island thought I’d he lower around greater area
Okay I guess still manageable
Some article freaked me out lol especially when entry level is 55-60k
fossil field
depends which ones
day ones always
but i live wit my gf and keeping it that way lol
but somepeople dont have a choice so better friends than homeless
azure junco
Guys rentals in Canada are crazy
rental prices in canada dropped this month i think
hopefully they crash soon
so i can move into a nice condo
but that would never happen because the gov will subsidize landlords 😁
azure junco
dont live with ur friends
a lot of the time you don't really have an option, especially if you live in a big city
it's either live with friends or be homeless
azure junco
i've heard far too many horror stories
especially with people who can put on a good persona on the surface
you never know until you live together
magic ether
yeah thats true
azure junco
from my experience it's better to live with a friend that you know you can communicate well with
magic ether
yeah facts
magic ether
but its also hard if u dont wanna hurt their feelings or they dont change their behaviour
azure junco
yeah
magic ether
and u feel bad for keeping on saying it
azure junco
living with roommates will always have compromises though
sometimes it's worth letting go things that irk you to avoid problems
esepcialyl if it's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things
merry crystal
but that would never happen because the gov will subsidize landlords 😁
Wdym