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google does
zon doesn't hire in canada
it does
apple does'nt hire in canada
micrososft doesnt hire in canada
netflix i know for sure doesn't
hes pranking us
no
yeah shopify >
shopify is tier 5
damn there's tiers
as big as it gets maybe for canaidan born corp
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two squares
snap as rank 5 :kekw:
In terms of pay no
Who is this guy lmao
Do you go to Athabasca or something
U must be new here
Adobe >>> etc.
But I wasn't sure if I should take it or Intact
Because I don't wanna go to Toranno
Ye
Whatโs your prev experience?
Obvs Intuit lol intact way worse
Not Waterloo and ex-Amazon
No relocation bonus this year is rough.
i stg it's always people who've never worked in big tech that say this
bc they are easiest faang to get into 
which faang have you worked at
anyone here work for Konrad
fucked for what
i dont think it matters
no, just dont go below the req gpa for the program or you get kicked to like general studies iirc
just dont put it on your resume
ah
amazon posted an internal posting for our coop board, but it requires transcript
i feel like alot more companies are asking for gpa now
where bruh i didnt see it
lmao yeah
anyone
Kek
What year u in?
2
bruh u r fine then
๐๐๐
Lassonde?
a close friend used to why
cool was just wondering howd they like it
congratulations on your offer from konrad
lmao bro i just got lucky
his team was chill, had good wlb so no complaints
he eventualy moved out for a fully remote and a higher TC position
bro drop your resume
at konrad or somewhere else
LOL bro my resume is mid af im telling u i just got lucky
they gave me shot so i tryharded interview process
bro drop it in my dms rn before i chew down on my cyanide tooth
oh ok nice im hoping its good company to launch into a better role
yeah its fine
just be prepared to switch products n tech stacks
atleast thats what was happening in his team
lmao my indecisive ass alr does that with projects
thanks for the info
very helpful
congrats :)!
thank you!
has anyone gone past Pure Storage OA?
Did anyone hear back from Intuit regarding summer?
Someone here got an offer
homeless offer accepted 
how much does intuit pay?
im curious?
Return?
I heard they pay like 35-40/hr and 5k in housing
wow thats soooo good
wtf
Yup and the office perks slaps I heard
ya but dont u have to pay like 1.5k rent
every month
r the perks worth1.5k
@spice herald sir i have dmed u btw ๐
Where are you finding rent for 1.5k in Toronto?
no kidding, my waterloo rent is 2.1k
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Ridiculous
Rent at least 1.8-2k for a decent unit
I'm in downtown Montreal penthouse floor for 2k
good morning: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-24/ibm-sees-strong-2024-free-cash-flow-plans-job-cuts
4k layoff
45 an hour I think for the Toronto office
Iirc donโt quote me
with roommates i gusss
nuts
bro u have the full place then i bet
for full place right
ppl acc paying 2k+ for rent?
i guess downtown rent makes sense but waterloo aint no way hahaha
Nah I split it with a friend, 1.1k each
I have friends paying 2.7k for a 1BR in Van
quebec rents so nice
i had a huge condo in downtown hull in quartier du l'oree-du-parc (like right opposite the parliament across the river) for 1400 (700 with my roomie)
congrats
@lapis tide u on the intern market rn or u employed?
Did anyone hear back from Google for their Software Dev internship summer 2024 in Toronto, Waterloo and Montreal?
There are lots in Waterloo lots for less than 1k unless youโre talking about b4 splitting
what exactly do recruiters do other than look at resumes and onboard ppl
theyโre always so slow idk
of course
Tbf they are slow cause they are dealing with a ton of ppl
Had interview on the 22nd
wy@?
job inc.
Congrats on Job at Job inc job
iโve always wanted to work there
Job LLC
referral?
no
I have applied to 500+ positions for summer and have not received a single answer for summer
Is that normal? Do I still have hopes of finding a job ?
yes
It really depends on your experience and year, but also just luck. Market is just bad rn
๐จ๐ฆ
hopefully u hear something back soon! Was wondering when u got their OA?
Oa December
gl man

I have 2 internships and 2 research but nothing too impressive
Y2 or Y3? just unlucky then :(
oh shit :_:
Itโs joever
market is rough. if there are like career fairs or company fairs, you should try to go and just network
tis the easiest way
Yea I suppose so
same but almost 400
barely even getting OAs
Whatโs your experience like
Ye same
I can share my resume with you over dms if you're interested
not like super great exp
wdym
like they havent shared it with the hiring managers yet?
/ looked over the resumes?
Im curious how many OAs you guys have gotten with 400 apps o.o
ive gotten around 25
My rent is $820
Downtown Toronto
I got a bunch of ibm OA
but except that not many ngl
like 10
I think my interview rate was like 1:30 ish
w roommate?
yes
make sense
oh i guess i got lucky then with a 1:16
Thatโs very good man
What kind of resumes yโall packing ๐ญ
my resume has my name, job history, and projects ๐
i have 4 internships, but wouldn't say any are big name
a few small hackthons and yea
1 job per 30 interviews?
no way ๐ฎ
hackathon wins?
Yeah this one
prob this
so far I'm 1 interview after 700 apps
over two years
nah, not even close xD, just having fun with new technologies
1:700 isnt that bad right?
damn O.o what does your resume look like
nice nice
can share in dms if ur curious
Send it to me too
sure
It better not be a DnD character chart resume
@unreal field share the My Little Pony resume
whatโs your name, job history, and projects
Joe Shmoe, Job Engineer @ Job Inc, Project for Job
steve
My friends call me Elon Musk because I think I'm the battery
no .-.
Did you see that Fayaz gave you Worst Resume Award for that?
it was so cringe we made him delete that
I mean I'm sure he was just joking
interview status?
sauce the deets
zzz
how many courses are u taking this term
how is 115k bad
yea its alright
me?
bros ready for retirement
honestly i want good exit
80 hours a week?
lmfaoo
idk if bmo ba has good exit tho
prob gotta search more
no i was prev quant
bmo capital markets aint pension plan
no quant at canadian pension plan
lol i worked at pension plan as quant last summer and their ro is 118k but 70-80h/week
and bmo business analyst offer at 115k
idk what you're confused abt broski
yea
quant research
yea thats why i wonder exits
:/
maybe pm?
idk
ig yea
but at tech
idk i got accenture cdp final tdy so guess will see how it all turns out
but no swe offers yet :/
That sounds horrible
lol but promotions are good tho
So what like you work 12 hours a day including weekends?
When did you sleep
idk
Lmfaoo
I live on the border of Markham and rhill
but after u got used to it
cool cool
like near high tech?
thought we went to same school yo
my investment bankign friend at a big bank work grueling hours
i rememebr he stayed from like 9pm to 4am at one point lmao
yeah happens sometime for analyst level
Quite literally
Wait who did you go to the same school with
That's wild...
canada just not resilient
Maybe even longer
its only transitory 
heyy has anyone interned at Dropbox and could let me know what the technical interview is like! its 1 hour of code review and 1 hour of leetcode style. tyyy
thank you soo much!!
me
Hey all
hey
No relocation bonus ๐
has anyone here interviewed with ceridian
Anyone in here got the meta interview ?
congrats
Congrats on meta
congrats on meta
Bruh
Thank you guys canโt wait to be pair coding with mark
Coop
for coop yes, it was lc ez/med
What team did you interview for?
Did they force you to write code in c#? Someone told me they tend to do that
Did you get the job?
Specific questions about the tech stack or just general CS questions?
are u loo? @stone osprey
Why you ask
Are you a loo hunter ?
doesnt meta hire like all loo kids?
Iโm asking Ceridian
oh mbmb
Yea meta is just loo
i meant to say @turbid crater
Ohh thatโs why I got the reach out ?
bro idk lol
i have just heard loo has insane pipeline to meta
Hopefully they bless me with a final ๐๐พ
I didnโt know this tbh
are u looking for coop or ng?
Cuz Iโm on a 8 month internship and then I have zon( or meta ๐)
Nah Iโm still going in 3a in fall
Coop and intern is different, intern you have to do the hustle yourself. Coop school helps directly
How was your coop experience?
yeah
Ah ok. How will you say I should prepare?
Makes sense
Any tips still on how to prepare?
nokia ???
in hindsight, ceridian would have been better
you would have been the first carleton coop student
at ceridian
someone else took that title afterwards tho
Honestly , its very hard to know how things end up , not your fault
yeah
we talked before on, i think about KPMG
or something
congrats on kpmg
any ngers?
Woah are you allowed to say that
lmao
Actually tho
We believe you
Im one of the ngs
Bruhhh
i puked
shit usd?
WTF
Fr why get into debt at this point
But if it keeps up, it will be incredibly difficult to get in those position. Someone will have to create a leetcode for ups drivers ๐
they gonna hire only from FAANG of driving
maybe tell a homeless person to shoo away here and then but its whatever
cream of the crop
100%
I can imagine prev experience being like Uber driver for 7+ years
their OA will be trucking simulator route from pittsburg to california
Based
LMFAO
unfortunately i had so many errands to do today i couldnt infiltrate buildings pal

@fossil field bro hes not a belieber
i have lyft offices near me
im actually gonna go there
toronto
i have to go there n check idek what it is
but theres also a guidewire solutions office
MOOD
yo did chatgpt remove history?
wtf
conversation histories
nah itโs just you
kk see u there
so theres a lyft building in this spot
i just dont know wtf its for
honestly good
fuck em
5 days a week is stupid af
ill go in tomorrow in actuality
gonna go see
Yeah coop makes it way easier to get an internship ngl
I tried to get one without coop, I got one phone call after like 70 applications.
With coop I got 6 interviews and 5 offers with like 30 applications
Fax
I trespassed into a building and sneaked into the manager's cabinet. He called the cops on me.

I asked the cop for jjob
Im so lucky I got my first internship without coop, shit was pain
I got a better job without coop
did u also network in person and at raves
you're missing out on the real networking opportunities

at what school

Prolly not york (their portal is shit)
no it's not (i go to loo)
facts
nah Montreal
Polytechnic? Concordia?
really? took me like 300 apps to get my first internship, with coop
in my case it doesnโt really matter cuz you can drop the coop program at my uni
Companies hire coop cause they wanna pay less
uqam
thatโs not completely true
hiring coop is safer for a company
Look at me, I worked in an oil and gas plant 7am - 7pm and was leetcoding at night
Because they donโt pay 100% full of the coopsโ salary
Thatโs why
You can make time for leetcode even if you have work
yeah some school do force that but in my case I could drop coop after finding my internship
ok but what if you want a life
thatโs a reason but thereโs a couple other reasons why coop is safer
Bro I did it for money, I want money thatโs why worked so hard. also, you get one week off. Itโs two week on site and one week off
do not understand people who get into software for money... get a business degree and do investment or something
Because I want a good wlb
You make money with both and I chose this path
I guess going into software because of money + you hate your life doing it vs going into software for money + tolerable is different
It was a plant in Kitimat, bc.
But if you hate your life doing it then yeah I donโt get those people
Thank you
just two simple reason why coop is safer for companies.
- Coop programs usually enforces that you take certain classes before applying to internships
- Once students sign offer, they have commitment to the school too
software was always way safer than business tho
companies get reimbursed for hiring coop students
just two simple reason why it doesn't make sense to be swe:
- u can make more money as investment banker
- swe pays ๐ฅ
Bro you gotta be kidding investments banking wlb is so shit
??
but it pays more
what school doesnโt sanction students from breaking coop offers ?
you're telling me you're not okay with working 12 hour days to make double swe TC
I know but I also want a happy family in the future man money ainโt everything long term
itโs a reason two iโm saying itโs not the only one
u can just get family after you're 40 or smth lol
or like 50+
?


Thatโs not in my plans I want that by 30. lol if you have a friend ๐
What ur sentence mean
dm
In montreal youโre generally transferred back to the non-coop program if you do that. Donโt know how it is where you live
Second is true but if you hire only from coop you donโt gotta check transcript at all. Just checking the gpa is enough cuz you already know what classes students took
u can make more money if you were born in america
We have decent salaries in canada tho, no ?
True but the code monkey chose me
define decent
average uber driver makes more than average SWE in canada
(i'm making statistics up)
i thought uber drivers only made like $8/hour after factoring in gas
or was that doordash...
Well if youโre talking about average, us isnโt that great when you consider cost of living
๐๐๐
erm
Itโs way better but itโs not like crazy
have u seen the cost of living in places in canada where >1000 people live
I live in montreal
Fr cost of living is fucked here
i'm pretty sure more than 1000 people live in montreal
Bro west of Canada is a shit show
yeah right so ik itโs not terrible

your cost of living would halve and you'd make double as much if you moved to texas
my friend moved from sunnyvale to toronto cuz of h1b issues as senior swe at google and got a 55 percent pay cut
Then again who wants to live in Texas (Iโm just making this convo spicy)
who wants to live in us anyways ๐

@real island congrats on meta
@real island congrats on meta
Congrats on Netflix
be american
get shot
walk outside
get shot
Congrats on Discord
thanks but reneging discord for BMO
had to google drw
discord mid
bro does not live in montreal
is discord le future?
zon > discord
Damn
guess i donโt ๐
No way, zon superior to Netflix and Microsoft
msft > rentech
real
accurate
why is figma so high
what is this? tier list for SWE companies/
it is the most accurate thing ive seen
literally real dude
where job
quant aint shit
I fumbled LinkedIn ๐
he's cracked
Damn this one hits
Also i was reached out by a roblox recruiter
he had roblox in first year
@turbid crater congrats on meta
He ghosted me after
@turbid crater congrats on meta

why do u guys say congrats for everything
Congrats on Netflix, women, no stress life, hrt and more women
accurate
airbnb is going down the toilet lol
Congrats on Netflix, women, no stress life, hrt and more gym bros
shut up remmy fidgetz
congrats on mcdonalds
Real one
No custom congrats for loo๐๐
congrats on X
๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
ubereats cyclist (they are too slow)
Hello minion guy
Why dont u work for gru
With your yellow ass (not racist)
How do people get snap and twitter internships, those guys are like unicorns
you mean cad ?
move to us ez
I would by iโm not fan of guns
this by hour thing is weird
just move to switzerland lol
u can live in a super liberal state or city
switzerland SWE TC > US SWE TC
Yea just move across the workd
like san francisco
World
is it for each hour they work
because teachers dont work for like three months out of the year
profs be like 6 hour work week 300k TC
Meanwhile our ass gets paid big bucks to make fucking buttons
Center a div
Type shit
big bucks
who's paying u big bucks to center a div
Every faang
I work for all of them
all iโm saying is that starting salaries is highly correlated with cost of living everywhere. one of the reasons I choose canada over usa is iโm not fan of guns
At the same time
what
And taxes
๐ถ
Yes thank you sith kermit
Thatโs me on the right, the swe
thanks
Search the list of people with the position 'Teacher' that appeared on Ontario's sunshine list.
i still think doing cs is safer than business in terms of money
not a mf teacher
maybe not rn but in general
no its not
now because of over hiring and everything. But few years ago it was very safe I think
i wonder why
this is tia duke
well yeah but you can be motivated by money and get extremely good
Bruh why yall keep deleting shit
bro thinks we didn't see his message
(iโm not i actually like coding)
I saw that @safe light u said a psy op shit
Search the list of people with the position 'Secondary Teacher' that appeared on Ontario's sunshine list.
And that you think you underpaid
@safe light how do I gain generational wealth, show me your ways I wanna learn
starlust is steven ๐
Who tf is steven
Whats leetcode
Never heard of it
my experience was different I guess. Got internship without doing a single leetcode problem
least cracked UofT CS student (prev 7x FAANG)
No way
U goated
Yall getting faangs in elementary school
Im cooked
I barely had any technical question ๐
a bunch of these folks dont have linkedin
but come on
Harvey bitchoff
Name goes hard
these people are not secondary teachers
They offer 75k starting at my company so i guess ur right
i dont want to dox myself but my gym teacher was unironically making six figs
ill dm u
mmk
Bro probably had to do like years of work
sure itโs going to be easier if you love what you do but if you have some logic, itโs still possible to get good at coding for money
how many FAANG do you have
๐คฃ๐คฃ
Dont worry itโs coming ๐
Pray for me too bro
isn't that just like, unpaid labor though
I didnโt apply to any faang tbh
netflix hires thousands
didnโt think about getting into big tech while in school was possible
Youโll get citadel ng bro ๐
would recommend
Bro can someone explain what citadel does
Like wtf is an hft
also for goodness sakes why tf are you guys applying to fanng, microsoft etc. I bet most of yall barely know oop. Please for goodness sakes apply to smaller to mid companies and even local ones
they hire a bunch of math geniuses to make them money
bro what ๐
i said
also for goodness sakes why tf are you guys applying to fanng, microsoft etc. I bet most of yall barely know oop. Please for goodness sakes apply to smaller to mid companies and even local ones
who tf learning pom.js
what is pom.js
what is oop ? ๐
Itโs actually overwhelming ngl
I got a question for all yall new grads that still dont have a job yet. Do you guys know oop? Like if i told you can you make a Person class for a bank could you do it without googling solution? Could you access apis in ur code and use it (weather api/open ai for examples) and do something with them? Do you understand some sql and db relationships? If i told you to design a table could you do it or query a table? 
did not fucking make it for that mid january hiring sprint
FUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK
worth?
htmx is good they say
they arent anywhere near popular
Are you front end ?
do you know anyone in real life that has used htmx
itโs an intern salary ๐
mfs be like "react dying" since 2013
yea but you're not counting tips
I used to get paid more when I was a TA
it's 17/hr + tips
4k apps
Fair I understand
i dont think they let people work for free anymore in ontario
some of the knowledge transfer tho no ? (never did htmx)
I have never seen a job with these ๐
Nah its not worth
In fact everyone studying it rn should stop
Ill study it but yall can stop
solid is like... principles though. philosophy
i meant for high salary in mid/long term
are you fr
i genuinely cant tell
if you are i mean .js
It comes down to luck if you are born with high iq or not
ik but itโs harder to get it with webdev isnt it
its not gonna
Bro yall need to chill
pathetic
Just cuz u dont go faang donโt mean cs is bad
So many companies still pay super well for cs
Wtf is htmx
whats good chat
facts i feel like every single resume in #1019675142248468601 is 4.0 gpa with 5 internships and honors or whatever
and they say they cant get a job
TD 
td is using solidjs?
๐คฃ
@safe light arent you the one who said not to quit school before getting a faang internship ?
oh lol
Solid principles
I see but like is it easier to get into big tech as an intern, or with work experience ?
Hold this Liskov substitution principle. (L)
not as a new grad but in general
damn
would you recommend doing a master to get into big texh then ?
what site is that ?
meta
was thinking of doing a master to learn more and get a better job/pay
does gpa matter tho ?
hmm
so sad man
big tech doesnt care about gpa ? would assume so since they have so much applicant
I see
imo i donโt think thatโs a good reason to do ur masters
u gotta really enjoy research tbh
Even professional masters?
it opens ur doors to more opportunities like ML/AL and data science but if u plan on being a software developer itโs kinda not worth it
I gonna do it because my current school not prestigious enough
Need to pass more screens
as long as u secure one job, your school doesnโt rlly matter tbh
experience is valued much more
also itโs really expensiveโฆโฆ
deadass
it does i promise
UBC, waterloo, UBC, UofA
thats it
all others below that are on a similar level, guelph, mac, uottawa, carleton, western, queens
for CS specifically
queens and western business >>>
uofa ๐
u of a?
xDD
bro woke up and chose to add his own school in
the top tier
hahaha
u of a is ass
better than the other schools i mentioned
uoft is literally the highest ranking in canada
its not even close to the same tier
as the others
top 3 waterloo, u of t, ubc
rest dont matter
all the same
yeah you have harvard, mit, conestoga, stanford
like imo it goes loo > uoft ubc >>> uOfA > rest
u think?
its legit the same thing
if anything id throw mcgill up there
like i peronsally didnt even get into kinaxis but u of a is mid fam
like ong
kinaxis is rng dont worry
send name in DMs
ok
i probs know him
ya he was nice but
he called me out on all my bs
yeah true tbh
i may have been a little delulu
the only reason to go to u of A
where is mcgill
its top 100 worldwide for CS
is to get Intuit
hovard of the north
probs near uofa tbh
godammit
U of A is a fking intuit feeder
like if u wanna work at intuit
pray to god u attend U of A
we have higher rate of coop than uw last year
everyoen and their moms goes from u of A to Intuit
carletons rate of co-op was good, but companies were ass
thats good
like are they all local, prestige at all, etc
waht is considered ass tho
shopify wealthsimple
thats good
those r local
also like nokia and stuff is not great imo
like not bad
like everything "big" in ottawa is just mid
nokia and kinaxis is a tier below stuff like cisco
cisco is pree decent
yeah i agree
economy so shit cisco not hiring intern this year
cisco is acc pretty good tho lol
they hired new grad
like not a bad place to work
and interns
pretty good actually
not intern pretty sure
and pay is solid as fuck
those are good companies for like a first co-op tho
ik some interns from cisco
for summer?
ik last summer, and i think one has return, i may be tripping hella
cisco is good for like a 2nd to 3rd coop lol
ye
I was ๐ค to getting cisco and the manager was like nope that position not happening this year
4
like most cs grads
oh wait no then
id say like 1
school with coop? 4
or less
most cs grads in canada are bad
like 0 to 1
without? 1
this year is even shittier than last year ngl
but like avg coop school prob like 3-4
yea
on avg
i got like 6 interviews fall 2023, for summer 2024 i have had 1
sounds right ya
Same here
economy is so shit lol
Apparently fall is the easiest szn
this summer i had like 0 interviews
like ford nokia kin and some other shit idek
pree sure i had like 5+ in fall
is fall really easier than winter
yea
I bet its abt the same
yeah prons
fall is easiest season
probs*
Yea
no doubt lol
damn
Winter has more coop students
winter is harder at least for my own experience
gotta cook my curriculum then
it def is
Loo Eng more students have winter
but yea, what new grad salary would u guys be happy with
like we talking base salary
low 6 figs
depends on the role for me
bruh ur def a waterloo guy
thats accounting for the fact that the economy should be booming by the time we all getting the fck out
dead
u r waterloo right
nah mcgill
$70000 to $80000 is what iโm aiming for atm
idk if i should just try for RO or grind for better internships? Any thoughts? I'll be at RBC Amplify for 3rd internship in the sum
is that fintech or just bank tech?
for sure
it depends what team im placed on
think thats a solid ass base for a new grad



