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weak gazelle
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google doesn't hire in canada

fresh fog
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google does

weak gazelle
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zon doesn't hire in canada

fresh fog
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it does

weak gazelle
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apple does'nt hire in canada

fresh fog
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what do you mean lol

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apple idk

weak gazelle
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micrososft doesnt hire in canada

fresh fog
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netflix i know for sure doesn't

ashen mason
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hes pranking us

fresh fog
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is shopify comparable to american big tech ?

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or not even close

weak gazelle
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no

lapis tide
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yeah shopify >

weak gazelle
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shopify is tier 5

fresh fog
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damn there's tiers

ashen mason
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as big as it gets maybe for canaidan born corp

weak gazelle
lapis tide
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two squares

weak gazelle
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gapped company

ashen mason
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snap as rank 5 :kekw:

weak gazelle
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it's accurate

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have u seen snap SWEs

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most of them are ex-HFT

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or UofT alumni

fickle juniper
magic cave
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Do you go to Athabasca or something

fickle juniper
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U must be new here

quartz ridge
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Shopify vs WealthSimple vs Intuit vs Adobe

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Whoโ€™s winning?

magic cave
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Adobe >>> etc.

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But I wasn't sure if I should take it or Intact

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Because I don't wanna go to Toranno

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Ye

real island
real island
magic cave
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Not Waterloo and ex-Amazon
No relocation bonus this year is rough.

azure junco
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i stg it's always people who've never worked in big tech that say this

ashen mason
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bc they are easiest faang to get into PepeLaugh

azure junco
terse burrow
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anyone here work for Konrad

formal prism
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I got a 58% avg this year, am I fucked?

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cumulative is 73%

terse burrow
formal prism
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finding jobs

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ubc

terse burrow
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i dont think it matters

tight gale
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no, just dont go below the req gpa for the program or you get kicked to like general studies iirc

terse burrow
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just dont put it on your resume

formal prism
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ah

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amazon posted an internal posting for our coop board, but it requires transcript

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i feel like alot more companies are asking for gpa now

terse burrow
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where bruh i didnt see it

formal prism
terse burrow
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thats not internal

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they just copying the link that was alr there

formal prism
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oh bruh i just read it

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it was one of those clickbait "Apply" jobs

terse burrow
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lmao yeah

terse burrow
broken whale
broken whale
formal prism
broken whale
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Ull learn

terse burrow
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bruh u r fine then

formal prism
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๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™

fiery prism
worldly ridge
terse burrow
eternal fossil
terse burrow
worldly ridge
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he eventualy moved out for a fully remote and a higher TC position

eternal fossil
terse burrow
worldly ridge
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konrad is still hybird ye

terse burrow
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they gave me shot so i tryharded interview process

eternal fossil
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bro drop it in my dms rn before i chew down on my cyanide tooth

terse burrow
worldly ridge
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just be prepared to switch products n tech stacks

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atleast thats what was happening in his team

terse burrow
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lmao my indecisive ass alr does that with projects

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thanks for the info

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very helpful

worldly ridge
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congrats :)!

terse burrow
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thank you!

minor spruce
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has anyone gone past Pure Storage OA?

spice herald
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Did anyone hear back from Intuit regarding summer?

real island
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Someone here got an offer

tight gale
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homeless offer accepted gladge

quartz ridge
quartz ridge
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i feel like prob 30+?

spice herald
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I heard they pay like 35-40/hr and 5k in housing

quartz ridge
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wtf

spice herald
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Yup and the office perks slaps I heard

quartz ridge
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ya but dont u have to pay like 1.5k rent

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every month

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r the perks worth1.5k

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@spice herald sir i have dmed u btw ๐Ÿ™‚

magic cave
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Where are you finding rent for 1.5k in Toronto?

analog current
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๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ’€

magic cave
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Ridiculous

spice herald
magic cave
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I'm in downtown Montreal penthouse floor for 2k

zenith eagle
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4k layoff

real island
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Iirc donโ€™t quote me

quartz ridge
quartz ridge
quartz ridge
quartz ridge
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ppl acc paying 2k+ for rent?

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i guess downtown rent makes sense but waterloo aint no way hahaha

magic cave
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I have friends paying 2.7k for a 1BR in Van

zenith eagle
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quebec rents so nice

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i had a huge condo in downtown hull in quartier du l'oree-du-parc (like right opposite the parliament across the river) for 1400 (700 with my roomie)

lapis tide
zenith eagle
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@lapis tide u on the intern market rn or u employed?

chilly turret
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Did anyone hear back from Google for their Software Dev internship summer 2024 in Toronto, Waterloo and Montreal?

sour lark
warm rock
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what exactly do recruiters do other than look at resumes and onboard ppl

sour lark
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Reach out to talent

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Poach

warm rock
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theyโ€™re always so slow idk

sour lark
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Advertise the openings

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Watch YouTube at their desks

warm rock
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of course

sour lark
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Tbf they are slow cause they are dealing with a ton of ppl

zenith eagle
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wy@?

lapis tide
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job inc.

real island
lapis tide
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thanks

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wbu

warm rock
real island
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Job LLC

warm rock
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referral?

lapis tide
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no

stone osprey
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I have applied to 500+ positions for summer and have not received a single answer for summer

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Is that normal? Do I still have hopes of finding a job ?

boreal sentinel
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yes

frozen brook
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It really depends on your experience and year, but also just luck. Market is just bad rn

boreal sentinel
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๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

chilly turret
broken whale
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Oa December

frozen brook
broken whale
stone osprey
frozen brook
stone osprey
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Iโ€™m 5 year homie

frozen brook
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oh shit :_:

stone osprey
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Itโ€™s joever

frozen brook
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market is rough. if there are like career fairs or company fairs, you should try to go and just network

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tis the easiest way

stone osprey
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Yea I suppose so

normal parcel
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barely even getting OAs

stone osprey
stone osprey
normal parcel
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not like super great exp

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wdym

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like they havent shared it with the hiring managers yet?

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/ looked over the resumes?

frozen brook
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Im curious how many OAs you guys have gotten with 400 apps o.o

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ive gotten around 25

azure junco
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Downtown Toronto

stone osprey
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but except that not many ngl

normal parcel
azure junco
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I think my interview rate was like 1:30 ish

normal parcel
azure junco
normal parcel
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make sense

frozen brook
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oh i guess i got lucky then with a 1:16

stone osprey
stone osprey
azure junco
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my resume has my name, job history, and projects ๐Ÿ‘

frozen brook
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i have 4 internships, but wouldn't say any are big name

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a few small hackthons and yea

magic cave
frozen brook
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prob

normal parcel
normal parcel
azure junco
normal parcel
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so far I'm 1 interview after 700 apps

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over two years

frozen brook
normal parcel
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1:700 isnt that bad right?

frozen brook
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damn O.o what does your resume look like

normal parcel
magic cave
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Send it to me too

frozen brook
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sure

magic cave
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It better not be a DnD character chart resume

normal parcel
lapis tide
azure junco
lapis tide
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steve

azure junco
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Steven J Jobs

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full name Steven Job Jobs

normal parcel
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Jeffery Preston Bezos

magic cave
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My friends call me Elon Musk because I think I'm the battery

fiery prism
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Hello

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Should I dm ibm ceo

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I have his slack profile and am able to chat

normal parcel
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do it

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triple dog dare you

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๐Ÿ’€

normal parcel
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Did you see that Fayaz gave you Worst Resume Award for that?

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it was so cringe we made him delete that

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I mean I'm sure he was just joking

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interview status?

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sauce the deets

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zzz

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how many courses are u taking this term

strange jay
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yo anyone know bmo business analyst stuff?

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lol heard their ft tc is 115k

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idk

frozen brook
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not bad for canada

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actually pretty high, no?

normal parcel
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how is 115k bad

strange jay
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yea its alright

normal parcel
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how much are you making rn

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for you to say

strange jay
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me?

normal parcel
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its alright

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

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for comparison I'm probably making like 20 k a year

strange jay
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i got pension plan ro 118k

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but 70-80h/week

normal parcel
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bros ready for retirement

strange jay
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honestly i want good exit

normal parcel
strange jay
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yeah

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i stayed office until 11pm

normal parcel
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i need job visualized

strange jay
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lmfaoo

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idk if bmo ba has good exit tho

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prob gotta search more

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no i was prev quant

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bmo capital markets aint pension plan

normal parcel
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Idt they are

strange jay
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lol i worked at pension plan as quant last summer and their ro is 118k but 70-80h/week

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and bmo business analyst offer at 115k

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idk what you're confused abt broski

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yea

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quant research

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yea thats why i wonder exits

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:/

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maybe pm?

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idk

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ig yea

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but at tech

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idk i got accenture cdp final tdy so guess will see how it all turns out

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but no swe offers yet :/

normal parcel
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I didn't know there was such things as 80 hour weeks

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In North America

strange jay
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ib & consulting do

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i heard evercore ib is like 95-100h/week

normal parcel
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That sounds horrible

strange jay
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lol but promotions are good tho

normal parcel
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So what like you work 12 hours a day including weekends?

strange jay
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idk if its still relevant after genai and stuff

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yea you get on call on weekends

normal parcel
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When did you sleep

strange jay
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idk

normal parcel
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Lmfaoo

strange jay
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like 1-2

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i live in markham

normal parcel
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If it was like for 4 months

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I could see it being fun

strange jay
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lol tbh

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first 2-3 months are hard

normal parcel
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I live on the border of Markham and rhill

strange jay
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but after u got used to it

strange jay
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like near high tech?

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thought we went to same school yo

worldly ridge
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i rememebr he stayed from like 9pm to 4am at one point lmao

strange jay
normal parcel
strange jay
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good to see u neighbour

normal parcel
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Wait who did you go to the same school with

worldly ridge
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its actualy over

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we are jobless until end of 2025

normal parcel
strange jay
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canada just not resilient

normal parcel
worldly ridge
tacit stag
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heyy has anyone interned at Dropbox and could let me know what the technical interview is like! its 1 hour of code review and 1 hour of leetcode style. tyyy

tacit stag
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thank you soo much!!

muted portal
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me

quartz ridge
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Hey all

muted portal
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hey

quartz ridge
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How to find a job?

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I legit canโ€™t find any job wtf?

magic cave
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No relocation bonus ๐Ÿ˜”

stone osprey
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has anyone here interviewed with ceridian

turbid crater
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Anyone in here got the meta interview ?

lapis tide
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congrats

stone osprey
weak gazelle
turbid crater
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Thank you guys canโ€™t wait to be pair coding with mark

stone osprey
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Coop

pine widget
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for coop yes, it was lc ez/med

stone osprey
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Did they force you to write code in c#? Someone told me they tend to do that

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Did you get the job?

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Specific questions about the tech stack or just general CS questions?

broken whale
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are u loo? @stone osprey

stone osprey
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Nah I wish

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Iโ€™m prairies homie lol

stone osprey
turbid crater
broken whale
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doesnt meta hire like all loo kids?

broken whale
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I UBC

stone osprey
broken whale
stone osprey
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Yea meta is just loo

broken whale
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i meant to say @turbid crater

turbid crater
broken whale
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i have just heard loo has insane pipeline to meta

turbid crater
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Hopefully they bless me with a final ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿพ

turbid crater
broken whale
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are u looking for coop or ng?

turbid crater
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Intern

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I technically maxed out already

broken whale
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oh same lol

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extending cos no ng jobs

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lol

turbid crater
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Cuz Iโ€™m on a 8 month internship and then I have zon( or meta ๐Ÿ™)

turbid crater
turbid crater
stone osprey
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How was your coop experience?

stone osprey
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Ah ok. How will you say I should prepare?

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Makes sense

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Any tips still on how to prepare?

normal jetty
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nokia ???

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in hindsight, ceridian would have been better

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you would have been the first carleton coop student

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at ceridian

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someone else took that title afterwards tho

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Honestly , its very hard to know how things end up , not your fault

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yeah

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we talked before on, i think about KPMG

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or something

lapis tide
cinder kraken
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any ngers?

magic cave
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Woah are you allowed to say that

tender coral
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lmao

cinder kraken
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lol

lost lark
cinder kraken
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Actually tho

lost lark
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We believe you

stable ravine
quartz ridge
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racism.

turbid crater
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Bruhhh

turbid crater
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From 100k to 170k

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These jobs are getting hotter than faang man

strange jay
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shit usd?

turbid crater
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WTF

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Fr why get into debt at this point

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But if it keeps up, it will be incredibly difficult to get in those position. Someone will have to create a leetcode for ups drivers ๐Ÿ˜‚

worldly ridge
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im beocming a cop

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goodbye guys

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job stability + nice pesnsion gladge

eternal fossil
worldly ridge
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maybe tell a homeless person to shoo away here and then but its whatever

eternal fossil
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cream of the crop

turbid crater
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I can imagine prev experience being like Uber driver for 7+ years

eternal fossil
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their OA will be trucking simulator route from pittsburg to california

normal parcel
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Bro has never played a videogame in his life

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Did you build your PC yet?

real island
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Based

eternal fossil
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LMFAO

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unfortunately i had so many errands to do today i couldnt infiltrate buildings pal

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@fossil field bro hes not a belieber

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i have lyft offices near me

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im actually gonna go there

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toronto

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i have to go there n check idek what it is

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but theres also a guidewire solutions office

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MOOD

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yo did chatgpt remove history?

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wtf

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conversation histories

fresh fog
eternal fossil
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kk see u there

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so theres a lyft building in this spot

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i just dont know wtf its for

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honestly good

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fuck em

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5 days a week is stupid af

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ill go in tomorrow in actuality

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gonna go see

fresh fog
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I tried to get one without coop, I got one phone call after like 70 applications.
With coop I got 6 interviews and 5 offers with like 30 applications

stable ravine
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I trespassed into a building and sneaked into the manager's cabinet. He called the cops on me.

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I asked the cop for jjob

turbid crater
fiery prism
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I got a better job without coop

weak gazelle
fiery prism
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I spammed ppl on LinkedIn

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Tbh got my job rn by cold applying

weak gazelle
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you're missing out on the real networking opportunities

fiery prism
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So i guess i was lucky

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Can u show me some places where I can hook up w ppl

broken whale
fiery prism
weak gazelle
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no it's not (i go to loo)

normal parcel
fresh fog
fiery prism
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Polytechnic? Concordia?

glossy condor
fiery prism
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Nah I mean university

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He told montreal

fresh fog
fiery prism
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Companies hire coop cause they wanna pay less

fresh fog
fiery prism
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Ah

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I experienced that already soโ€ฆ.

fresh fog
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hiring coop is safer for a company

turbid crater
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Look at me, I worked in an oil and gas plant 7am - 7pm and was leetcoding at night

fiery prism
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Thatโ€™s why

turbid crater
fresh fog
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yeah some school do force that but in my case I could drop coop after finding my internship

glossy condor
fresh fog
turbid crater
glossy condor
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do not understand people who get into software for money... get a business degree and do investment or something

turbid crater
real island
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I guess going into software because of money + you hate your life doing it vs going into software for money + tolerable is different

turbid crater
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It was a plant in Kitimat, bc.

real island
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But if you hate your life doing it then yeah I donโ€™t get those people

fresh fog
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just two simple reason why coop is safer for companies.

  • Coop programs usually enforces that you take certain classes before applying to internships
  • Once students sign offer, they have commitment to the school too
fresh fog
glossy condor
weak gazelle
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just two simple reason why it doesn't make sense to be swe:

  1. u can make more money as investment banker
  2. swe pays ๐Ÿฅœ
turbid crater
fresh fog
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??

weak gazelle
fresh fog
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what school doesnโ€™t sanction students from breaking coop offers ?

weak gazelle
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you're telling me you're not okay with working 12 hour days to make double swe TC

turbid crater
fresh fog
weak gazelle
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or like 50+

real island
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Bro gonna have kids at 50

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๐Ÿ’€

weak gazelle
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?

real island
weak gazelle
turbid crater
real island
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What ur sentence mean

fresh fog
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In montreal youโ€™re generally transferred back to the non-coop program if you do that. Donโ€™t know how it is where you live

Second is true but if you hire only from coop you donโ€™t gotta check transcript at all. Just checking the gpa is enough cuz you already know what classes students took

weak gazelle
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u can make more money if you were born in america

fresh fog
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We have decent salaries in canada tho, no ?

turbid crater
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True but the code monkey chose me

weak gazelle
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average uber driver makes more than average SWE in canada

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(i'm making statistics up)

glossy condor
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i thought uber drivers only made like $8/hour after factoring in gas
or was that doordash...

fresh fog
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Well if youโ€™re talking about average, us isnโ€™t that great when you consider cost of living

real island
fresh fog
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Itโ€™s way better but itโ€™s not like crazy

weak gazelle
fresh fog
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I live in montreal

real island
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Fr cost of living is fucked here

weak gazelle
turbid crater
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Bro west of Canada is a shit show

fresh fog
real island
weak gazelle
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my friend moved from sunnyvale to toronto cuz of h1b issues as senior swe at google and got a 55 percent pay cut

real island
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Then again who wants to live in Texas (Iโ€™m just making this convo spicy)

weak gazelle
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  • much higher taxes
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@fresh fog congrats on drw

fresh fog
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who wants to live in us anyways ๐Ÿ‘€

real island
lapis tide
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@real island congrats on meta

weak gazelle
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@real island congrats on meta

real island
glossy condor
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be american
get shot
walk outside
get shot

real island
weak gazelle
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thanks but reneging discord for BMO

fresh fog
lapis tide
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discord mid

weak gazelle
glossy condor
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is discord le future?

lapis tide
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zon > discord

turbid crater
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Damn

fresh fog
turbid crater
weak gazelle
lapis tide
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real

weak gazelle
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accurate

fresh fog
lapis tide
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literally

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figma goated wym

glossy condor
lapis tide
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it is the most accurate thing ive seen

weak gazelle
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linkedin > citadel

lapis tide
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literally real dude

glossy condor
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where job

lapis tide
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quant aint shit

weak gazelle
turbid crater
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I fumbled LinkedIn ๐Ÿ˜”

lapis tide
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how bro got linkedin

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congrats

weak gazelle
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he's cracked

turbid crater
fiery prism
weak gazelle
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he had roblox in first year

lapis tide
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@turbid crater congrats on meta

fiery prism
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He ghosted me after

weak gazelle
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@turbid crater congrats on meta

fiery prism
lapis tide
terse burrow
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why do u guys say congrats for everything

turbid crater
weak gazelle
glossy condor
turbid crater
lapis tide
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shut up remmy fidgetz

glossy condor
turbid crater
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Real one

fiery prism
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Congrats on PR

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Congrats on citizenship

turbid crater
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No custom congrats for loo๐Ÿ˜ž๐Ÿ˜ž

weak gazelle
lapis tide
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no way

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job bank

weak gazelle
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name 3 jobs that pay less than SWE

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in canada

terse burrow
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YO cs 350

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340

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Machine learnikg

turbid crater
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๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

lapis tide
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ubereats cyclist (they are too slow)

terse burrow
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Why dont u work for gru

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With your yellow ass (not racist)

turbid crater
fresh fog
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you mean cad ?

warm rock
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move to us ez

fresh fog
lapis tide
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this by hour thing is weird

weak gazelle
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just move to switzerland lol

warm rock
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u can live in a super liberal state or city

weak gazelle
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switzerland SWE TC > US SWE TC

terse burrow
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Yea just move across the workd

warm rock
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like san francisco

terse burrow
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World

lapis tide
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is it for each hour they work

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because teachers dont work for like three months out of the year

terse burrow
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They better bruh

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Dealing with dumbass kids

weak gazelle
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profs be like 6 hour work week 300k TC

terse burrow
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Meanwhile our ass gets paid big bucks to make fucking buttons

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Center a div

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Type shit

weak gazelle
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who's paying u big bucks to center a div

terse burrow
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I work for all of them

fresh fog
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all iโ€™m saying is that starting salaries is highly correlated with cost of living everywhere. one of the reasons I choose canada over usa is iโ€™m not fan of guns

terse burrow
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At the same time

glossy condor
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my 50 yo gym teacher was making six figs

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public employees usually get good money

terse burrow
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Six figs mean nothing nowadays

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With inflation

lapis tide
turbid crater
fresh fog
terse burrow
lapis tide
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dude it tops out at 100k

turbid crater
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Thatโ€™s me on the right, the swe

weak gazelle
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starlust makes 500k at zon

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just for perpective

lapis tide
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thanks

glossy condor
terse burrow
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How is this data collected

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Is this self reported

fresh fog
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i still think doing cs is safer than business in terms of money

lapis tide
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not a mf teacher

fresh fog
weak gazelle
fresh fog
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now because of over hiring and everything. But few years ago it was very safe I think

lapis tide
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i wonder why

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this is tia duke

fresh fog
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well yeah but you can be motivated by money and get extremely good

terse burrow
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Bruh why yall keep deleting shit

weak gazelle
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bro thinks we didn't see his message

fresh fog
lapis tide
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pisses me the fuck off

terse burrow
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I saw that @safe light u said a psy op shit

glossy condor
terse burrow
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And that you think you underpaid

turbid crater
weak gazelle
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starlust is steven ๐Ÿ’€

terse burrow
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Whats leetcode

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Never heard of it

fresh fog
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my experience was different I guess. Got internship without doing a single leetcode problem

weak gazelle
terse burrow
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U goated

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Yall getting faangs in elementary school

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Im cooked

fresh fog
lapis tide
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but come on

terse burrow
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Harvey bitchoff

lapis tide
terse burrow
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Name goes hard

lapis tide
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these people are not secondary teachers

fresh fog
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They offer 75k starting at my company so i guess ur right

glossy condor
# lapis tide

i dont want to dox myself but my gym teacher was unironically making six figs
ill dm u

lapis tide
#

mmk

terse burrow
fresh fog
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sure itโ€™s going to be easier if you love what you do but if you have some logic, itโ€™s still possible to get good at coding for money

turbid crater
fresh fog
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fair enough

turbid crater
terse burrow
glossy condor
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isn't that just like, unpaid labor though

fresh fog
weak gazelle
fresh fog
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didnโ€™t think about getting into big tech while in school was possible

turbid crater
weak gazelle
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would recommend

terse burrow
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Like wtf is an hft

lapis tide
weak gazelle
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they hire a bunch of math geniuses to make them money

lapis tide
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also for goodness sakes why tf are you guys applying to fanng, microsoft etc. I bet most of yall barely know oop. Please for goodness sakes apply to smaller to mid companies and even local ones

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who tf learning pom.js

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what is pom.js

eternal fossil
turbid crater
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Itโ€™s actually overwhelming ngl

weak gazelle
# fresh fog bro what ๐Ÿ’€

I got a question for all yall new grads that still dont have a job yet. Do you guys know oop? Like if i told you can you make a Person class for a bank could you do it without googling solution? Could you access apis in ur code and use it (weather api/open ai for examples) and do something with them? Do you understand some sql and db relationships? If i told you to design a table could you do it or query a table? dogesmile

eternal fossil
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did not fucking make it for that mid january hiring sprint

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FUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK

glossy condor
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worth?

fresh fog
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htmx is good they say

lapis tide
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they arent anywhere near popular

turbid crater
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Are you front end ?

lapis tide
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do you know anyone in real life that has used htmx

fresh fog
lapis tide
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mfs be like "react dying" since 2013

weak gazelle
fresh fog
weak gazelle
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it's 17/hr + tips

fluid harness
turbid crater
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Fair I understand

glossy condor
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i dont think they let people work for free anymore in ontario

fresh fog
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some of the knowledge transfer tho no ? (never did htmx)

real island
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I have never seen a job with these ๐Ÿ’€

lapis tide
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cuz nobodys using them

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remember when solid was making noise

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who is using solid

fresh fog
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u in faang right ?

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idk if studying web dev is still worth it

terse burrow
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Nah its not worth

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In fact everyone studying it rn should stop

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Ill study it but yall can stop

glossy condor
fresh fog
lapis tide
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i genuinely cant tell

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if you are i mean .js

normal jetty
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It comes down to luck if you are born with high iq or not

fresh fog
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ik but itโ€™s harder to get it with webdev isnt it

normal jetty
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Otherwise itโ€™s JOEVER

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Iโ€™m fucked if htmx becomes a thing

lapis tide
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its not gonna

normal jetty
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Gotta learn a new skill then

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And I canโ€™t learn anymore

terse burrow
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Bro yall need to chill

lapis tide
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pathetic

terse burrow
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Just cuz u dont go faang donโ€™t mean cs is bad

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So many companies still pay super well for cs

terse burrow
magic ether
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whats good chat

fresh fog
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facts i feel like every single resume in #1019675142248468601 is 4.0 gpa with 5 internships and honors or whatever

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and they say they cant get a job

real island
lapis tide
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td is using solidjs?

real island
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Oh wait

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I thought you meant SOLID

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๐Ÿ’€

lapis tide
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๐Ÿคฃ

fresh fog
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@safe light arent you the one who said not to quit school before getting a faang internship ?

glossy condor
normal jetty
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Solid principles

fresh fog
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I see but like is it easier to get into big tech as an intern, or with work experience ?

normal jetty
#

Hold this Liskov substitution principle. (L)

fresh fog
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damn

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would you recommend doing a master to get into big texh then ?

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what site is that ?

lapis tide
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meta

fresh fog
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oh

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donโ€™t you have to be in top school tho ?

magic ether
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yeah fs

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i feel like school is important again

fresh fog
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was thinking of doing a master to learn more and get a better job/pay

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does gpa matter tho ?

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hmm

magic ether
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so sad man

fresh fog
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big tech doesnt care about gpa ? would assume so since they have so much applicant

magic ether
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i wish i was in school in 2021

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or at least 2nd or 3rd year

fresh fog
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I see

warm rock
#

u gotta really enjoy research tbh

normal jetty
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Even professional masters?

warm rock
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it opens ur doors to more opportunities like ML/AL and data science but if u plan on being a software developer itโ€™s kinda not worth it

normal jetty
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I gonna do it because my current school not prestigious enough

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Need to pass more screens

warm rock
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experience is valued much more

warm rock
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also itโ€™s really expensiveโ€ฆโ€ฆ

magic ether
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it does i promise

warm rock
#

what exactly is prestigious enough?

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top 10 universities?

magic ether
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UBC, waterloo, UBC, UofA

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thats it

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all others below that are on a similar level, guelph, mac, uottawa, carleton, western, queens

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for CS specifically

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queens and western business >>>

warm rock
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uofa ๐Ÿ’€

quartz ridge
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u of a?

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xDD

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bro woke up and chose to add his own school in

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the top tier

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hahaha

magic ether
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uofa is less

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but the other 3

quartz ridge
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u of a is ass

magic ether
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better than the other schools i mentioned

warm rock
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uoft is literally the highest ranking in canada

quartz ridge
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its not even close to the same tier

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as the others

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top 3 waterloo, u of t, ubc

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rest dont matter

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all the same

lapis tide
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yeah you have harvard, mit, conestoga, stanford

magic ether
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like imo it goes loo > uoft ubc >>> uOfA > rest

quartz ridge
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u of a

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has zero advnatage

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over something like queens

magic ether
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u think?

quartz ridge
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its legit the same thing

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if anything id throw mcgill up there

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like i peronsally didnt even get into kinaxis but u of a is mid fam

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like ong

magic ether
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kinaxis is rng dont worry

quartz ridge
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brother

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the intevrviewer thinks im a nub

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got the reject soon after

magic ether
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oh true

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what team?

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AI?

quartz ridge
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it was like

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yea

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but for a test developer xD

magic ether
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who was interviewer

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sebastian?

quartz ridge
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fuk i gotta look him up

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it was an indian guy

magic ether
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send name in DMs

quartz ridge
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ok

magic ether
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i probs know him

quartz ridge
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ya he was nice but

naive shell
quartz ridge
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he called me out on all my bs

magic ether
quartz ridge
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LMA

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LMAO

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iv enever heard anyone say u of a is good

magic ether
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i may have been a little delulu

quartz ridge
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the only reason to go to u of A

kind hazel
magic ether
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its top 100 worldwide for CS

quartz ridge
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is to get Intuit

kind hazel
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hovard of the north

magic ether
kind hazel
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godammit

quartz ridge
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U of A is a fking intuit feeder

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like if u wanna work at intuit

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pray to god u attend U of A

kind hazel
quartz ridge
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everyoen and their moms goes from u of A to Intuit

magic ether
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were they good tho?

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like rate of co-op means nothing to me

kind hazel
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depends on what you consider good?

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people re getting jobs

magic ether
#

carletons rate of co-op was good, but companies were ass

kind hazel
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thats good

magic ether
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like are they all local, prestige at all, etc

quartz ridge
magic ether
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local startups

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thats ass

quartz ridge
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shopify wealthsimple

magic ether
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thats good

quartz ridge
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those r local

magic ether
#

those have prestige tho

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like are they unknown

quartz ridge
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wealthsimple is only known in canada

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shopify has some prestige ya

magic ether
#

also like nokia and stuff is not great imo

quartz ridge
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nokia is decent iom

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imo

magic ether
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like its better than startup

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kinaxis too

quartz ridge
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like not bad

magic ether
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like everything "big" in ottawa is just mid

quartz ridge
#

nokia and kinaxis is a tier below stuff like cisco

magic ether
#

except cisco

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yeah

quartz ridge
#

cisco is pree decent

magic ether
#

yeah i agree

kind hazel
#

economy so shit cisco not hiring intern this year

quartz ridge
#

cisco is acc pretty good tho lol

magic ether
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they hired new grad

quartz ridge
#

like not a bad place to work

magic ether
#

and interns

quartz ridge
#

pretty good actually

kind hazel
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not intern pretty sure

quartz ridge
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and pay is solid as fuck

warm rock
#

those are good companies for like a first co-op tho

magic ether
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ik some interns from cisco

magic ether
#

agreed

kind hazel
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for summer?

magic ether
quartz ridge
quartz ridge
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not many ppl get cisco

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first coop

magic ether
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ik someone that did

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nepo tho

kind hazel
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I was ๐Ÿค to getting cisco and the manager was like nope that position not happening this year

quartz ridge
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how many coops do u think most ppl do

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nowadays

magic ether
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4

quartz ridge
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like most cs grads

magic ether
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oh wait no then

quartz ridge
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id say like 1

kind hazel
#

school with coop? 4

quartz ridge
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or less

magic ether
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most cs grads in canada are bad

quartz ridge
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like 0 to 1

kind hazel
#

without? 1

magic ether
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yeah

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even with co-op

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ik so many that didnt get any

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or do something not cs

quartz ridge
#

waterloo avg is prob 6 with coop lol

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or else u cant grad

kind hazel
#

this year is even shittier than last year ngl

quartz ridge
#

but like avg coop school prob like 3-4

magic ether
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yeah for sure

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Fall 2023 was really good for me

quartz ridge
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avg cs grad, prob like 0-1 lmao

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like 1 max

magic ether
#

yea

quartz ridge
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on avg

magic ether
#

i got like 6 interviews fall 2023, for summer 2024 i have had 1

kind hazel
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sounds right ya

normal jetty
quartz ridge
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economy is so shit lol

normal jetty
#

Apparently fall is the easiest szn

quartz ridge
#

this summer i had like 0 interviews

magic ether
#

like ford nokia kin and some other shit idek

quartz ridge
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pree sure i had like 5+ in fall

kind hazel
#

is fall really easier than winter

quartz ridge
#

yea

kind hazel
#

I bet its abt the same

magic ether
#

yeah prons

quartz ridge
#

fall is easiest season

magic ether
#

probs*

normal jetty
quartz ridge
#

no doubt lol

kind hazel
#

damn

normal jetty
#

Winter has more coop students

quartz ridge
#

winter is harder at least for my own experience

kind hazel
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gotta cook my curriculum then

magic ether
#

which is weird to me

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i feel like fall should have more

quartz ridge
#

fall seems to be the easiest lol..

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idk why

magic ether
#

it def is

normal jetty
#

Loo Eng more students have winter

quartz ridge
#

but yea, what new grad salary would u guys be happy with

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like we talking base salary

kind hazel
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low 6 figs

warm rock
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depends on the role for me

quartz ridge
kind hazel
#

thats accounting for the fact that the economy should be booming by the time we all getting the fck out

quartz ridge
#

thats like top 5% for new grad

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6 fig

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base

magic ether
#

dead

kind hazel
#

I'm also gonna have 5 internship by then

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so like thats 1 year exp

quartz ridge
#

u r waterloo right

kind hazel
#

nah mcgill

quartz ridge
#

isnt an internship 4 months?

#

thats like almost 2 yoe

kind hazel
#

ya some mix of 3 months here and there

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but ya

warm rock
#

$70000 to $80000 is what iโ€™m aiming for atm

magic ether
#

idk if i should just try for RO or grind for better internships? Any thoughts? I'll be at RBC Amplify for 3rd internship in the sum

quartz ridge
#

amplify is good

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better than just rbc

kind hazel
#

is that fintech or just bank tech?

quartz ridge
#

for sure

magic ether
#

it depends what team im placed on

quartz ridge
#

i heard BOrealis AI is pretty fukin good

#

Borealis*

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id be happy with 80k+

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lol

magic ether
#

i need 100

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or i kms

quartz ridge
#

think thats a solid ass base for a new grad