canada

[gilded charm]

for shopify what kind of writing should i put in message to hiring manager

[real island]

Plz hire me

[gilded charm]

how to ellaborate that

[azure junco]

Hello [Insert Hiring Manager's Name].

Please hire me.

Kindest Regards,
[Your Name Here]

[gilded charm]

bet thanks!

[waxen oriole]

Tell them you have their kids in your basement.

[worthy orbit]

just lie on ur resume

I remember i was applying to a 2 year position when i had 0 exp and they made me fill out a smartr application. There was no place to put projects so i put my projects under exp, recruiter thought i had 5 years of exp and i ended up passing resume screen. I told my interviewers i had 0 exp tho and they let me interview.

[crystal reef]

did u get the job

[worthy orbit]

lol yea

[crystal reef]

we live in a society'

[tardy flint]

the market is f***ed rn.

its better to give up

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-what-is-your-name-gif-25981057

[fluid harness]

same here

they don't really hire 2nd years tho

so expected

[drifting shore]

Hav u tried learning oop?

[tardy flint]

yup and yup. i think i just need a little eternal break from life

[worthy orbit]

blud copied what i was about to say word for word

[real island]

also for goodness sakes why tf are you guys applying to fanng, microsoft etc. I bet most of yall barely know oop. Please for goodness sakes apply to smaller to mid companies and even local ones

[drifting shore]

don't need oop for zon

[real island]

Based

[silk marten]

surveymonkey out go get em lads

[stable ravine]

Intern?

[silk marten]

yeah swe

its called like technical intern or something but its swe

[gilded charm]

Hey guys I talked to few recruiters they mentioned they don’t bother about cover letter if num of apps is high is it true?

[azure junco]

your number one priority should be learning oop

[drifting shore]

are u trolling?

[analog current]

Anyone interviewed at Epic Games (Canada preferably but can be US as well) before?

Have an upcoming interview with "several members of the hiring team" and not sure what to expect between coding and behavioural

Thanks!

[frosty axle]

Anyone get bell new grad one way interview?

[zenith eagle]

is this ng or intern?

[analog current]

Intern

Frontend engineer

[warm rock]

i heard cover letters are useless unless you have a a major gap or career change and you want the recruiter to understand why you’re doing xyz now

[analog current]

Ok charles.

[halcyon arrow]

https://twitter.com/WhatLayoff/status/1748471417287446820?t=Lz9IzdDFNCWyh6MfdkUp2A&s=19

What Layoff? (@WhatLayoff) on X

🚨 LAYOFF ALERT - Massachusetts 🇺🇸

Wayfair, LLC in Boston, Massachusetts will layoff 936 employees including remote employees across the country who report to the location on March 19, 2024 as indicated in a Massachusetts WARN notice.

Twitter · Jan 19, 2024, 10:24 PM

[worthy orbit]

i was gonna cold email someone at wayfair and just found out they got laid off

[halcyon arrow]

R.i.p. to your childhood dreams

[vague totem]

anyone here heard back from bmo yet for summer 2024 coops? 4/8 months

when do they come out, how is there hiring process

[analog current]

Yeah, they'll probably start reaching out ending of jan and feb

[vague totem]

is it based on. first come first serve basis? i was one of the first to apply

[analog current]

It's apply -> One way interview -> Final round with people ->. offer

[vague totem]

leetcode?

[analog current]

How are you certain about it?

[analog current]

Nah, behavioral

[vague totem]

linkedin has like X number of people applied. and usually its less that X as ppl click on link then go away. i was up at 6 am and saw only 9 ppl

[analog current]

I applied like 21 hours after it was posted...but applying early helps

[analog current]

Argh I see

[vague totem]

u worked there im guessing?

[analog current]

Nah, I got to the final for Winter 2024

They wanted me to go to Vancouver, told them I can't so withdrew

[vague totem]

aight so yes essentially tho. can i dm u?

questions

[analog current]

I did apply early

Also for RBC

Before RBC ghosted me, now they sent me OA, but I floped it

[analog current]

Sure

It's Toronto my bad

[fossil field]

U can collab with me on ai trading project if u want

Project demo presentation went well with ceo and cto today

Lots of work still ahead

Also

[stable ravine]

[real island]

I don’t know OOP and applied to FAANGs, can I work on it?

[zenith eagle]

this is cope if u dont try to get into bigger well known companeis

but checks out for most other companies i think

sad

what's even more fucked is canadian salaries are like us salaraies when u compare canada to (world-{canada,usa})

like even my aussie friends are like damn i wish i got paid that much

[fossil field]

For sure we should be striving for the top but some people need a reality check

[zenith eagle]

true i'm ngl i hope the grind treadmill slows down for a bit

idk how much i can keep running

[fossil field]

Hmu when u get a job

[zenith eagle]

it's exhausting

[fossil field]

Yea just get ur foot in the door

Any job for now

[zenith eagle]

and also i'm a young guy who has nothing to lose

i shudder to think about guys with families

like damn

[fossil field]

And then in a year you’ll be in a much better position to be able to get high salaries

[zenith eagle]

imagine having a wife and kids and a mortgage and trynna to interview and get into a well paying company, esp in a market downturn

the treadmill of the grind's gotta end somewhere hopefully i can run on it as long as i can

[worldly ridge]

i dont want to grind

i dont want to run

i want to live

[zenith eagle]

one must imagine sisphyus happy

and alas that's the pill i've swallowed

[quartz ridge]

shopify sux

[stone osprey]

does anyone know what does 'Assessment' status means?
Does it mean they sent out a coding assessment? I never received one

[analog current]

Yea it means you got a OA

[stone osprey]

yea i cant find it though

i dont think i did

[broken whale]

can i also collab?

[tough knot]

its the OA

check spam and junk

sometimes its marked as dangerous

[broken whale]

[stone osprey]

its nowhere 😭

[broken whale]

Andre big bro plox 😭

[quartz ridge]

This is accurate. Most new grad dev get 60k

Rare to get above 80k

As a new grad

Unless u are beyond cracked

[broken whale]

not true

that's cap

[analog current]

@stone osprey

Check if you got a email like this and click the link

Thats what I did and got my OA

[stone osprey]

oh yea i think i got an email like that

let me check thanks!

[quartz ridge]

Well

[analog current]

Np

[quartz ridge]

The average new grad

Makes between 60-80k

Like 90%

Of them

10% of dev will make less than that or more

[stone osprey]

did you receive the OA right away after clicking yes?

and how was the OA?

[quartz ridge]

But I would say

For a top company like IBM

Or something similar

U can expect great comp

Maybe 90k

Depends on how good the company is

Think about IBM

Or company like Dell

Maybe Cisco

Nokia

These ones offer good comp package

For new grads

And are maybe lower hiring bar

Than something like Arctic Wolf

U can shoot for these and still get great outcome

[analog current]

Yea I got it a couple min after

[analog current]

It was decent 2 easy, 1 medium, 1 hard

[stone osprey]

Yea just got it as well

Did you get an interview?

[quartz ridge]

But some companies especially some

Special startups

Based in Cali

Have non leetcode prices

These ones are good to tap into

Not much name

But great work and ownership

They will have a satellite..

[azure junco]

Right but for these great companies you need to solve minimum 500 leetcode... it's really hard

[quartz ridge]

true

that's why my recommendation is to grind this early lol

that's exactly why

[glossy condor]

look out for VPNForAndroid and Patterned Learning Center, fake companies. likely a data-harvesting type thing
https://www.linkedin.com/company/vpnforandroid-org/

[glossy condor]

https://vxtwitter.com/danghentschel/status/1714767389936742613

why do companies have this option? who is texting job applicants?

[drifting shore]

Taking rbc after ur summer internship is negative resume value

[waxen oriole]

that's cursed

[analog current]

That’s wild

[warm rock]

they’re just companies lol why does it matter

[drifting shore]

I know him

he is still waiting for the google return offer

[warm rock]

bigger company ≠ better internship… amateur thinking

[analog current]

i was just talking to someone who has the inverse of this thankfully

ive seen cssiers get meta u

like freshman

ohhhh i see

fake meta

of course its a freshman program - except the freshman already have a strong resume and internships already

[drifting shore]

zon has a scholarship that guarantees an internship

[analog current]

i also may have gotten an offer for another freshman program

[drifting shore]

essay->internship

[analog current]

🥴

google reu

actually thats not freshman

[analog current]

okay what i can attest is that afe is more marketing? afe is not going to be in canada for next year

its more "leadership"

like changemakers in the underrepresented communities

they have talent, they just dont have the resources

a flaw is that since theres so many spots in the us theres been people who cheated their way in with the content of their essays

who have gotten fired

lmao

which i have never ever talked about ever

[drifting shore]

i friend got in 2 years ago

[analog current]

well they probably heard the news

[drifting shore]

from wat he said, they only looked at the essay and didnt even have an interview

[analog current]

they didnt

they just surprise u if they can plan it

some people they have missed out on

in the us they obviously cant plan

400 surprises lol

[broken whale]

doesn't exist

[stable ravine]

meanwhile G planning to lay off more

[analog current]

i think td has a new program with a scholarship and internship afaik

[waxen oriole]

yk abt andy right

most cracked guy i've EVER seen. had to unfollow him on linkedin, got too depressed.

[analog current]

yeah lmao

i try to respect his privacy though because ik he gets a lot of nerds on him

[cyan field]

is it true that canada tc is shrinking? cuz on levels fyi 75th% are making more than 110k

[fossil field]

Yes yes yes

You’d be lucky getting 80k as a new grad for the majority of people

Get connections and ur tc increases

Talking from experience

Recent grad as well that started full time 3 months ago

[worldly ridge]

i wouldnt be suprised since we are in a downturrn

why pay someone higher when you have a boat load of supply of candidates

[boreal sentinel]

much of levels data on canada comes from the 2021-2022 boom

levels is still a good source for usa

[wheat comet]

Guys, i think its time we unionize.

[worldly ridge]

i think we will all be dead before this happens

we dont have strong union backed support like teamsters in the U.S

[azure junco]

unions mean lower wages 👎

[turbid crater]

I remember someone saying that a math major can’t get tn visa for a swe job in the us ?

Is that true ?

[wheat comet]

United we bargain , divided we beg

[worldly ridge]

I interned at amazon, and I am fully angainst unions, it is the first day I learned at my job to meet the requirements of a bar raiser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQeGBHxIyHw

[fossil field]

full python, some type script

since im using ml libraries

[wheat comet]

There is no way this is real

Reporting the term “living wage” to ur manager is the most Brave New world corporate dystopia thing ive ever heard

[worldly ridge]

considering how union leaders and members were killed in the past like in blair moutnain by corporations , its the least dystopian thing for me

[wheat comet]

He probably asked for a living wage

[wheat comet]

True

[robust lotus]

😂

[drifting shore]

i would love to be exploited for 170k tc

[real island]

[polar dust]

who said the new grad jobs are gonna open on jan

theres literally nothing

[graceful sapphire]

thoughts?

[ashen mason]

ya shoulda been quota per origin country, like US

[sour lark]

I heard that there are a lot of scam colleges online working with immigration agents that are taking peoples money pretending to give sponsorships and just leaving them stranded

immigration fraud

[graceful sapphire]

i think its just canada's version of importing cheap labor. The USA gets it from Mexico and gets to label them as "undocummented immigrants" and can deport them at any moment so they work for like a $3/hr in farms and it benefits American farm owners

also like construction, house work like carpenters and floor layers, drivers, all kinds of stuff

[ashen mason]

cheap albour

[marsh thorn]

There is a serious abuse and exploitation problem in this immigration system

And people are right to be worried about it being too much amidst our hpusing crisis

[ashen mason]

housing and healthcare👍

[sour lark]

talked to so many people just using Canada as a pit stop to get to the US in like 5-10 years as well

[marsh thorn]

Yeah that's a problem

It devalues our country

[wheat comet]

Canada needs to invest more in Rnd and tech

[weak gazelle]

This is true though

problem is quality of immigration

[vernal sigil]

european workers have a lot more rights

[marsh thorn]

Don't Canadians get less vacations?

[marsh thorn]

Exactly, and not real estat

[warm rock]

a lot of the conversation revolves around “wow so many indians in canada now and they’re taking my jobs” which is a parallel to how americans view mexicans, when the real conversation should be what is the government doing to help our economy……..

which is nothing

[weak gazelle]

yea

[weak gazelle]

But there’s also the issue of quality of immigration

[sour lark]

https://tenor.com/view/turk-took-our-jobs-jerbs-gif-10165889

[marsh thorn]

Hey, I think you should listen to what these people have to say and be more open minded. Because while there are good and hardworking ones others not so much like with all groups of people

[weak gazelle]

If you look at the United States, most of the Indian immigrants there are white collar

But Canada is the opposite

[ashen mason]

quality of labour is much worse

[sour lark]

loblaws really be screwing us all

and other retailers

[warm rock]

it’s like weirdly socially acceptable to be racist towards indians esp online

[sour lark]

their greed is actually insane

[weak gazelle]

? International students at diploma mills clearly aren’t

[marsh thorn]

Gale Weston can go get stuck in traffic

For the rest of his life

[weak gazelle]

And this spoils the reputation of all international students

[marsh thorn]

At the runway

[warm rock]

exactly so what’s the point of stereotyping an entire group of people?

[marsh thorn]

Most don't want to*

They pay employers for LMIA I heard

[weak gazelle]

Sure I should have been broader with the terminology I use

[marsh thorn]

And thuis gov literally is giving people who overstay their visas citizenship

[weak gazelle]

Immigrants/temporary residents

[marsh thorn]

You can't pay for one legally*

No but after Trudeau and the pandemic the demographics changed

And there are diploma mills everywhere

So it could be different in 5 to 10 years

Again, Trudeau is literally giving people who illegally stay in Canada citizenship and they can pay for a LMIA

There are ways

[ashen mason]

the ones that go to diploma mills usually already have a bachelors from their home country

[weak gazelle]

@safe light The issue is that the majority of international students who come to Canada and go to diploma mills, do it as an excuse to work blue collar jobs
Which in turn affects the bottom line salaries and crowds literally everything

[marsh thorn]

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canada-create-citizenship-path-undocumented-immigrants-globe-mail-2023-12-14/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiKyfTKmu2DAxW-lYkEHehxCzAQFnoECAUQAg&usg=AOvVaw0WzglSzeLn9Jbf5A79Ic21

[weak gazelle]

I use Uber eats every day and see it happen
And I’m Indian

It’s sad

[marsh thorn]

Yes they can, our government will literally give them citizenship if they do it long enough

[weak gazelle]

Yea which is why I broadened my term to immigrants/temporary residents

[marsh thorn]

And they can get an employer sponsorship

Or pgwp

[ashen mason]

yea, thats what most do

[marsh thorn]

Exactly

The point is they're GOING to

Fine

[weak gazelle]

Yeah, Canada‘s immigration program should not be like the US in the sense that country wide caps don’t really make sense but it really needs to revamp quality of immigration

[marsh thorn]

I'll correct it

He's GOING to

And he will

No, the NDP 100% will support it

Liberals + NDP votes means they'll pass

It literally said Marc Miller will do it

Meaning by extension Trudeau will

I will give him credit for closing Roxham road

But that took YEARS

Of pleading from Quebec

Trudeau is more open borders post pandemic than when he got first elected

Quebec was begging Trudeau to fix it for years

40 deportations a day is nothing

When he brings in literally thousands a day

He could've pleaded with them sooner

[sour lark]

https://tenor.com/view/dwight-the-office-officeus-politics-gif-12828402

[marsh thorn]

And 2020-21 was lockdowns

Which was 2 years ago

[warm rock]

such a millennial

[marsh thorn]

There's hardly anyone coming in

[sour lark]

zillennial

https://tenor.com/view/jon-stewart-eat-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-3094746547306242594

[weak gazelle]

who are you

[marsh thorn]

Obama from what I've heard had high deportations

[warm rock]

i’m me who r u

[marsh thorn]

There are over 100k deportations in 2023 in the US https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2023/12/29/immigrants-ice-border-deportations-2023/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiByIDxnO2DAxX8IjQIHXxIDZ4QFnoECAwQAg&usg=AOvVaw25fkSc8MoTpFO0LFrpJMqN

[weak gazelle]

As GPT-5, I represent the next evolution in AI language models. Building on the foundations of GPT-4, my capabilities are more advanced, allowing for even deeper understanding and more nuanced responses across a wider range of topics. With improved algorithms and a larger dataset, I'm equipped to provide more accurate information, creative outputs, and sophisticated interactions. How can I demonstrate my abilities for you today?

[marsh thorn]

While the us brought about 1m immigrants

[warm rock]

are u single

[marsh thorn]

Trudeau pales in comparison to "sleepy open borders biden"

[weak gazelle]

Yes
dm

[marsh thorn]

No

When you compare immigrants in vs out

Trudeau very much is slacking off

Your own source says 40 a day

Are deported

And how it's a "surge"

We brought IN over 1m immigrants

Yeah

But legals - deportations

[ashen mason]

are illegals even a problem

[marsh thorn]

Is much higher under trudeau

No

Most come here legally st first

But overstay

Their visas

Meaning comparing legals in vs deportations is just

Exactly

[warm rock]

i had a call w an american recruiter yesterday and he asked me if montreal was in calgary

[marsh thorn]

Those that do come legally at first stay illegally later on

[sly kindle]

LOOL migrant rights

[marsh thorn]

Ask all the border states

[sly kindle]

Get fuckin rekt

[warm rock]

it’s insane how americans don’t know basic canadian geography

[marsh thorn]

@safe light am I being fair here comparing those two numbers?

Because you need to follow the law

They use up charities and shelters

[warm rock]

god forbid people try to find a better life lol

[marsh thorn]

While they pay no income taxes

I don't believe illegals get sins

Correct me if I'm wrong

I believe most work under the table

[marsh thorn]

My guy were in a housing crisis

[warm rock]

yup because the government failed to help us with that

not bc there’s immigrants

[marsh thorn]

No

[warm rock]

👍

[marsh thorn]

It's both

Both can be right

We're not building enough

[ashen mason]

immigrants are easiest to blame

[marsh thorn]

Amd were bringing in too much

[weak gazelle]

u mean illegals and yea most illegals probably work under the table

I mean you need a work visa to work in Canada

[marsh thorn]

Mb I made a typo

[ashen mason]

yup

[marsh thorn]

Yes

I agree with you

But thats only when the immigration is sustainable

Fax

[warm rock]

yeah it doesn’t make sense, so what if the illegal immigrants become citizens then what? it’s not like they’re regulating the amounts of affordable housing for each person

[marsh thorn]

Do you think bringing in over a million people into the country is a problem right now?

[marsh thorn]

Because its unfair to the legals who went through so much time energy money to get the same thing

That I agree with

But at least if it easily sustainable it would not be this bad

Because housing WAS infinitely more affordable under Harper everyone

It would take years to build houses

So no

[warm rock]

the point is that it’s not like there’s going to affordable housing that pop up for them whether they’re legal or not

[marsh thorn]

Do you think someone can go into your home without your consent and demand to sleep on your bed and eat front your fridge?

I never said Harper was innocent

But being negligent while not making the problems worse

[warm rock]

this isn’t the same scenario

[marsh thorn]

Is infinitely better than doing nothing to fix it but making thr problems worse like Trudeau

Nortel was the big one, and Harper didn't cause their failiures

Their fallout was way before Harper

Yeah

Harper kept things the same

[hallow sapphire]

I feel like it does play a part in continuing it

[marsh thorn]

But Teudeau deserves the most responsibility

[hallow sapphire]

At least I know here in van the rental market increases and is super dependent on college students

to the point it's a bloodbath to even find housing

[marsh thorn]

I'd say it was only around 2012 and onwards the economy dully recovered

His last 3 years

[hallow sapphire]

I don't think immigrants created the housing problem, but they do play a part in it

[marsh thorn]

Exactly

It's not a competition

They're literally spending trillions

[hallow sapphire]

I mean in canada when you hear stuff like foreign investment, blackrock, etc. Makes sense why it happens.

Developments here in van, some of them are funded by mostly if not only foreign investments

[marsh thorn]

Yea it is,because your country is your home

[hallow sapphire]

I think the state of canada is just disappointing to me

seeing as this is where I'm from

I have no issue with people coming here at all for a better life

[marsh thorn]

But @safe light how did Harper kill tech? I thought he moreso neglecting it in favour of natural resources

[hallow sapphire]

but I'd prefer if we solve our problem

hearing stuff like trudea pleging 2 billion or something

to the phillipines climate

is just like

crazy to me

[marsh thorn]

That was 5.4 b

[hallow sapphire]

even worse

[marsh thorn]

To multiple developing countries

[hallow sapphire]

My point is, the goal for canada should be to take care of itself rn

instead of spending money

[marsh thorn]

Exactly

[hallow sapphire]

cause imo we are a 3rd world country when we have legit 3 cities

montreal, toronto, and vancouver

I think the laws are horrible

I think the reality is canada is fucked

but I don't think anyone wants to solve it

[marsh thorn]

How?

[warm rock]

no… i’m a canadian citizen and this is a just a country. anyone can live here if they’re civil people.

[hallow sapphire]

other than complain and reap the benefits

I love this

I love quebec

it's where I'm from kek

[marsh thorn]

Municipalities give permits from my understanding

[hallow sapphire]

what law?

can you show?

[marsh thorn]

Increasing non French unis tuitions for English Canadian

[hallow sapphire]

ty

[hallow sapphire]

I think that's stupid, but I get why it happens in quebec

I just feel like they're still in a reaction from when the french language almost died there

cause of the anaglophones or w/ e

oh ya

this is dumb af

I thought u meant like

illegal to build a house

and I was so confused

ya this is stupid zoning shit

NIMBIES

nah I mean like in general

[marsh thorn]

I thought single family homes only are now nit a thing recently right?

[hallow sapphire]

zoning means you can't build apartments

for this

which is dumb

but honestly, I think they just need to expand or create new cities

instead of focusing on 3 cities

[marsh thorn]

Yeah

Our nimbies and regulations are ruining things

I still believe it would be less worse if it weren't for immigration

Honestly

Had Trudeau been more mindful of spending during the pandemic

And used low interest rates to invest in the countey

Like the US

We had a 300b deficit

The rest of the G7 has nothing to do with us

And Chrystia freeland only uses that information to cherrypivk data to make herself look good

G7 this and G7 that

Still

The US US actually investing in its country

And not just doing reckless immigration numbera

If the investment US good

It would pay itself off

Evemtually

If*

[drifting shore]

I just want a high tc

[marsh thorn]

They're doing something I roughly agree with

And that is investing in their country

And not reckless immigration

That cripples the country

Like Trudeau

No

They borrowed when it was low I believe

I'm talking a out the Build Back Better

And inflation reduction act

That was during low intetest rates

Yes, but not as bad as what we're doing right now with immigration

People can't be productive members of society

When there's no jobs and housing to gi around

[sour lark]

https://tenor.com/view/global-economic-collapse-meme-austin-powers-dr-evil-mike-myers-gif-22115696

[marsh thorn]

No, it's only sound when it's sustaonable

What's going in right now is objectively unsustainable immigration

He made ZERO prooactivr planning

For it

At the expense of the country's entire future if it fails

Yes

But thid cure

Is worse than the poison

Our population is going at the rate of African countries

We're going above and beyond

When it's properly planned and managed*

Because it's absurd

3%

Population growth

That's kind if true

I can't deny that

I agree that having a healthy population pyramid is Important

But it shouldn't come at the expense if people's livelihoods

People are walking over us now

Like India

[sour lark]

nah too cold everyone always crying about it

[marsh thorn]

Yeah

But immigration like this isn't good enoug

Trudeau forcing the provinces to pick up his slack

Literally in less than a year

Isn't healthy

They are better ways than forced to promises to pick up the slack of trudeau's unsustainable policy

Yeah it's a failure of all 3 levels

It's literally coming at an ultimate cost

Not enough to pick up his slack

How can our country build thousands of homes over ight?

[bold crystal]

Just joining what exactly is this convo about

[marsh thorn]

For thr thousands we bring in overnight?

[marsh thorn]

How this entire country is fucked

[bold crystal]

fucked in what way lol

[marsh thorn]

Everything

[bold crystal]

I read briefly, saw a lot about housing?

[marsh thorn]

Listen I agree that all 3 levels must reform

And deregulate

Aurbnb?

Theres gotta be a better way to force change

Than a self inflicted housing crisis

Well

New Zeleand is a small countru

But how much immigration does NZ have?

I fully believe change can come

[sour lark]

so whats your timeline on when you think provinces will be forced to ease the detached housing laws

[marsh thorn]

Some did already

Immigrants usually go GVA and GTA

Listen

I do think that people give their province's and municipalities too little accountability

Fine

I'll concede

But that doesn't mean we have to bring in a million+ immigrants

Yet*

He had to have done it in a better way

There has to be a better way

China is declining

Right now

Foreign investors and companies are fleeing

I do agree that eventually india will be a more dominant and influential power

On the world stage

I think our place on the world stage peaked after ww2

And we never will get that back

I don't think we need to be an important player on the wild stage

But I do agree that we should be independent enough and formidable enough

It's also infuriating hearing india tell us who should and shouldn't be in our country

And how we should get rid of the Khalistan supporters

We spent 10b for 300 jobs I believe

From an accountants perspective it's the same thing

In that it comes at opportunity cost

The tax cuts is one

Fine

I agree

With you

I'm just someone who's against corporate welfare

Aren't wr building a LNG plant?

That seems promising

Exactly

Because 3rd world countries are getting offshore to

Amd the US is facing that problem too

But i hear it's getting better

With all the green stuff

That country faced a significant decline in manufacturing

There's a reason why the term rust belt exists

It git bought by airbus

I agree with you 200%

That what happened was infuriating

We used to be innovative though

With Nortel and BlackBerry

Hold on there

That wasn't Harper's fault

Nortel committed accounting fraud

I'd be outraged as a taxpayer

To be bailing out such a company

Even if there were none

No

It was not enough burden of proof

On the Crown

By the exec

"In a lengthy ruling, the judge said the Crown did not meet the burden of proof required to find the three men guilty."

That doesn't mean there wasn't fruad

It just meant it couldn't be proven enough

That it was caused by those execs

Fine

Even if you're right

Bailing them out wouldn't do anything

Because they would never reach their former glory

Nortel fell off a cliff years before their bankruptcy

No amount money would fix tarnished reputation

And their shitty managers

Yeah

Nortel could've been the crown jewel

Of Canada

Today

It stood toe to toe

With other Mega corporations

But either way

The dotcom boom

Permanently fucked Nortel

To the point where no taxpayer dollars would fix it

[drifting shore]

Need another shopify

elon musk

[marsh thorn]

He wasn't in Canada for a long time right?

I know he is

But I don't exactly consider hin a Canadian

Given how relatively less tines in Canada

I'm one of them

I want to*

I'm still in school

2nd

I have Canadian citizenship

I know

Honestly

I think one comment summarized how I felt about Canada perfectly

"I feel like the Liberals and NDP sold my future for a few brownie points"

😭😭😭

I want to stay in Canada

I'm willing to sacrifice a lower wage for higher standard of living

But when 100k can't even buy you a house

Amd hospitals are overcrowded

100k isn't even that good of a wage in Canada

I want to but no

I know

Because no TM

[drifting shore]

cracked

[marsh thorn]

Damn

Congrats

[polar dust]

how do u get pass visa issue

[drifting shore]

wats ur previous exp?

[polar dust]

i havent been able to get pass sponsership question even with referral

and i go to t25 in the us

[marsh thorn]

Are you a new grad?

When?

So you are a new grad

That's really unfortunate

I thought it was before the next cycle

Right now

I'm a competent programmer

But I suck at LC

😭

[raw ocean]

start practicing rn

[marsh thorn]

I do

At the DND

Department of National Defence

[drifting shore]

wat comp is paying higher than zon?

ye

[sour lark]

what is zon pay in canada?

for intern

[drifting shore]

8000/month

[sour lark]

imagine 45k

lol

very good for canada

[drifting shore]

+2k usd/month for house stipend

[eternal night]

ye this was insane cuz u got it even if u didnt relocate lol

throw in the full 16 weeks if u go to coop school

[sour lark]

name all the companies

plz lol

i grad in 20 months

yall praying on my downfall

[drifting shore]

compared to zon?

[sour lark]

my last company had god tier wlb

[drifting shore]

damn...

[sour lark]

what do you think is good wlb?

[weak gazelle]

Starlust is not ❌ happy with his 500k CAD salary at Zon

🥜

[raw ocean]

how is working full-time compared to interning for you

[broken whale]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-happy-jumping-gif-26555219

[crystal reef]

where r u seeing this what site

@safe lightcan i dm u some questions i have im a 1st year cs student do u mind?

[weak gazelle]

dm me too

[crystal reef]

ok (;

[sour lark]

how much does the voluntary disclosure for equal employment opportunity cook you

[crystal reef]

ah smart ok i will

[weak gazelle]

Accurate cuz that’s how I landed gigs at citadel and Jane street

[crystal reef]

prefer-not-to answer and they get intrigued and respond, bam u show them interview hookline sinker?

@safe lightmy question is on job cycle applications

currently a 1st year

and I wanted to know when job opens up for internships usually

like etc summer, spring, winter idk fall

[weak gazelle]

So like ngl

u won’t have to worry about any of this if you’re not gapped

[crystal reef]

so winter u apply in fall? etc

ok

star when did u get ur first internship?

/ when do u know/think most ppl get their first or got

just curious mainly

is it true most ppl get it like 3rd or 4th

[weak gazelle]

iirc star is loo SE

G (STEP in first year) -> G (return STEP) -> Meta (formerly Facebook) -> Zon crud (L5)

[crystal reef]

im so confused english please

oh yea 100%

i haven;t gotten to the lc portion of my path yet lol

i still have to resume-maxx

projectmaxx

i was thinking on starting LC specifically the 75blind first

as 75 blind seems less daunting so easier to mentally prepare and begin

then do the 150

thoughts?

ngmi?

yea

y not projectmaxx rn + leetcode

ah i see

what you mean

mm

yea i understand that part

i pulled my ass up during winter break

to start learning and understranding the stuf

to get ahead whilst im not that behind yet idk

ok

[sour lark]

nah you're already perma gapped tbh

[crystal reef]

ive heard not to leave big tech

till when u grad

as u can cuck urself etc

like

not apply or try to get into big tech

until you graduate

yea ive been hearing that around

[weak gazelle]

Fr

[crystal reef]

i thought it was dumb after seeing that you cuck yourself as you have the intern pipeline

[weak gazelle]

starlust got Zon before grad why can’t u lol

[crystal reef]

i got ft 6 month intern rn whos really winning

[weak gazelle]

starlust is cracked but doesn’t mean u can’t be

[crystal reef]

UNPAID

yea realistically/hoping that i get 2+ internships before grad

[sour lark]

what about all the ppl who took a bootcamp and got interviews at every faang 💀

tis joke

[crystal reef]

so:

[weak gazelle]

dm me for link to EdX course with guaranteed interview at Faang

[crystal reef]

LC + Projectmaxx + Linkedin profilemaxx + researchmaxx on industry/apply

i think i got the linkedin part down

if that means anything

does linkedin maxx have value

[sour lark]

trying so hard

no summer internship though

[weak gazelle]

💀

there’s lots of big tech equivalent

Or better

Nice startup

[sour lark]

like my coop terms I mean

[crystal reef]

startup that took off rare ++

[sour lark]

I'm at loo and feel perma gapped

[crystal reef]

wait

no way loo 1st year students have summer internships rn

do they?>??

[weak gazelle]

Would u consider Zon a startup

[weak gazelle]

yes

[sour lark]

yes

[crystal reef]

😭

[sour lark]

we do

[weak gazelle]

yes

[crystal reef]

gotta rope maxx too late

[weak gazelle]

my friend at loo had HS internship at RBC

[sour lark]

yes man

[crystal reef]

this 4chan vocabulary is like scarily useful in this industry

btw i appreciate heavily the advice man

[weak gazelle]

damn

[crystal reef]

yea no im actually a sane person irl

[weak gazelle]

congrats on X

[crystal reef]

its cuz i h ave a social life i got gapped day 1

[weak gazelle]

what about UofT aka best uni for CS in Canada

[crystal reef]

the harvard of the north ?

[stable ravine]

Congrats on UOFT, money,woman, expensive lifestyle,private yacht,champagne, mimosas, dream vacation,mansion, designer dog, gucci belt, Bahen air, CSC 108H

[weak gazelle]

Thanks lol

[crystal reef]

guys family isnt SDE is it over?

oh final question

remote jobs

i see that a bunch

do u recommend remote internship

can we even do that?

the info on that topic is so scattered I couldn't find a clear answer

or do you recommend hybrid/in country remote

[drifting shore]

get zon with two sum in uni and ro to fulltime

170k tc

profit

[sour lark]

only @solid socket is that lucky

[drifting shore]

i got two sum

[sour lark]

zon interview so free

[fossil field]

holy fucking shit u guys talked so much today

i had to scroll so much

[warm rock]

it’s a lot easier to befriend/get closer to your manager and stuff if u see them face to face imo

could help u if u wanna get bridged in someday

but u might get dragged into team lunches/coffee which is never fun

idk maybe just me but i find it hard to make small talk w 40+ year olds LOL

[lapis tide]

its just you

[drifting shore]

ye

i want remote off season internship

[wheat comet]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM64goajA/

[fiery prism]

Should I get a mac air m1 13

I wanna have a cheap mac

[fiery prism]

How is it

Just need for coding and studying

And something light to carry around

[real island]

Anyone here interview with wealthsimple for Winter 2024 SWE Intern and move onto the final round?

[gilded charm]

hey guys im tring to learn SQL and struggling to come up with my own code for queries
is it normal not to be able to quickly implement the query idea i have ?

[quartz ridge]

Grats on moz

[lapis tide]

congrats

[glossy condor]

you'll get there with experience
as you become familiar with a database, you'll know where to look for what

[lost lark]

😅

[analog current]

Same (deep down I’m just jealous and want to be in loo)

[turbid crater]

😂

[tawny zephyr]

in a live coding interview

is there anything I should keep in mind

[fickle juniper]

Remember to code live

[tawny zephyr]

oh wow

thanks

[ashen mason]

ya u should vocalize your thinking

[tawny zephyr]

an hour long assignment

and my friend said (who interns there atm)

interviewer doesnt care

its not a lc technical

[tawny zephyr]

no

[fickle juniper]

Real talk, some more details on interview structure might help 👀

[tawny zephyr]

I dont have much info

just told me to brush on chrome extensions

and tools and LLMs

but ik its going to be a live coding interview

[fickle juniper]

Ig make sure you are fully clear on the details before diving in. ie ask questions until you and the interviewer are aligned on what to code

[tawny zephyr]

I see

I have just been reviewing chrome extensions making a few

basic stuff like http calls

[fickle juniper]

Sorry kinda general but not sure what they might make u do tbh

[tawny zephyr]

how to start one

[tawny zephyr]

yeah same lol

[fickle juniper]

Maybe a step might be to try and figure that out

[tawny zephyr]

mhm

[fickle juniper]

Like before the interview, so u know how to prep

[tawny zephyr]

oh

gotcha

I dont think it'll be too bad

I talked to 1 person he said it was easy but you never know

[glossy condor]

is DataAnnotation legit? Can't tell if the reddit threads are astroturfed

[tawny zephyr]

what company

I heard data annotation is busy work

[worthy orbit]

those reddit threads look fake. I made an account and they wanted me to do some assessment so i just left

[azure junco]

Data annotation in North America is probably a scam

Because data annotation is usually done for very very cheap

usually they outsource to developing countries where they can get away with paying someone $1-$3/h to do data annotation

[torpid cobalt]

guys where is the best place to find swe internships, my program has no coop and i keep applying on indeed, linkedin, and simplify, anywhere else?

[tropic creek]

may I have a job please

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-okay-good-job-gif-9207424

[vague totem]

does anyone know when quora releases like an OA/rejection typa thing

[stone osprey]

Anyone got any interviews yet

[stable ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/canticos-not-gonna-make-it-not-going-to-make-it-ngmi-were-not-going-to-make-it-gif-25635049

[halcyon arrow]

https://vxtwitter.com/WhatLayoff/status/1749420997269221829

[fossil field]

Ask any family and friends to refer you

That’s the best way to find internship

[turbid crater]

What if you don’t have friends and family?

[torpid cobalt]

no 😭 +100 apps and 0 interviews

[torpid cobalt]

say no more

[torpid cobalt]

gg

[lapis tide]

yeah

[worldly ridge]

who cares, only oop matters

[wheat comet]

well well well look who it is

[torpid cobalt]

im gonna touch u bro

[fickle juniper]

Thats ez, just type into chatgpt

[torpid cobalt]

i need an internship!

[wheat comet]

i was just on mac discord and i was reading this message before i saw this message here

[torpid cobalt]

LMFAOOOOO

get me a job bro

[wheat comet]

lemme see ur resume send dms

[torpid cobalt]

they got any internship oppurtunities in bangladesh?

[wheat comet]

yea

factory worker

child labour

[torpid cobalt]

tuff

[torpid cobalt]

omg how did u land microsoft, u absolute legend

nvm, u worked for intel and 2 other places, and go to uoft, ur goated

[strange trail]

Any advice for preparing for Dropbox 2 hour technical interview?

[azure junco]

he knew oop

[turbid crater]

And recursion

[lapis tide]

one word: applying to mid sized companies and local companies

[analog current]

what a moaron

[torpid cobalt]

that was like 8 words but i understand

[lapis tide]

don't argue with me

[analog current]

if i start a website

how do i make it grow and make people use it

people dont just randomly find sites/apps anymore

that was like 2--7 and shit

2007

[mint gorge]

Why is canada the most used location channel on this server

I goto the international channel and it's more canadians

[drifting shore]

We got nothing else to do

No jobs

[lost lark]

Not in canada

😭

[torpid cobalt]

LMAO

[tropic creek]

vote for me Obamium

[broken whale]

bro sitting on 2 offers and still complaining

[halcyon arrow]

This guy tried to hire me for $1000/month, his employees were all students. You would probably qualify as well.

[tropic creek]

Dollarama SWE

Prestige Hunt Top 10 (Canada)

[frosty axle]

did they send you the codility link?

only got the first email but not the second

[fiery prism]

My friend hasn’t got it

[wet rapids]

just got guidewire oa

[worldly ridge]

goodbye guys

why did i pick this field

[azure junco]

If Dollarama invested more in tech they would be unstoppable

[azure junco]

You still need a degree to do this. Might as well learn oop while you're at it

[worldly ridge]

how will oop help me become a better cop

[azure junco]

I got a question for you. Do you know oop? Like if i told you can you make a Police class in Java and then create an arrest method, could you do it without googling solution?

[worldly ridge]

Yes

i can also polymorph you into a cop

[azure junco]

What? You don't want a 48-pack of sandwich bags that each come with 50 bags?

https://www.dollarama.com/en-ca/p-zipper-seal-sandwich-bags-50pk/0302042

May I interest you in a 12 pack of spatulas?

[hybrid owl]

Anyone interviewed with Wealthsimple before? if so can I PM you?

[lapis tide]

thanks

[swift kernel]

i have not either

[drifting shore]

i have not

[waxen oriole]

i haven't

[sour lark]

nope

[torpid cobalt]

send the link in private message, im desperate

[halcyon arrow]

Lol

ur getting a high pay at tims

[lost lark]

How do I know if im eligible for TN visa

Is being cs major + citizen enough?

[worthy orbit]

yes but cs grad*

[lost lark]

Okok

[fossil field]

HEY EXCUSE ME U DIDNT SHOOT ME A DM. Also ive been working overtime with the cto to finish this big project so been busy

asap doesnt mean 30+ seconds...it means ASAP

jkjk

[eternal fossil]

cto toxic or nah?

[fossil field]

lol at first yea it was really hard to impress him, his office is 2m from my desk and he has walked by me and not said a word once in 2 months

then i got assigned to ai team and then this big project where im lead and he did some stuff on it so i had to colaborate with him

we cool now and he likes me now

[eternal fossil]

that shit was so fucking bad

dont even remind me man

had to do it for a course

[fossil field]

only losers use haskell

c# is much more scalable and a lot of support

for real devs and real production environment

funny enough my dad is a C# developer and always forced me to do it since i was like 8 and I despised it and despised coding and eventually did comp sci but then i said never c# tho cause i liked python and now im doing c# lol

[weak gazelle]

Hey @fossil field
I have an exciting opportunity for you
My manager at G is impressed with your profile and would love to set you up on a 1-1 call sometime next week
Dm me for details

[fossil field]

no thanks

[weak gazelle]

?

[fossil field]

i like where im at

[weak gazelle]

no you don’t

[fossil field]

get a job

[weak gazelle]

[fossil field]

ur being annoying

[weak gazelle]

sorry

for trying to build ur career

[fossil field]

no ur not u keep doing it everytime i talk and you see

[weak gazelle]

Every time u talk is when I realize how brilliant u are

[fossil field]

lol but yea im happy where im at i get development freedom no buerocracy and i get to work with the cto

also i have no idea if u have a job or not or if u work at google or not cause you troll so much so from now on i assume ur still jobless and looking for a job

[weak gazelle]

you will be hearing from my manager

[fossil field]

go apply man

[weak gazelle]

But why

I love where I’m at

G is great lol

I literally talked to my manager about your OOP and rave-networking expertise and he was intrigued so I reached out

[fossil field]

u dont work at google

u dont even work

at this point u have to show me proof

[weak gazelle]

fine I’ll let him know you’re not interested

[fossil field]

and no internship doesnt count

[weak gazelle]

damn

agreed

[fossil field]

i cant disagree with that

nah uoft is poo poo

[weak gazelle]

G loves people who don’t wanna work at G

[fossil field]

great name cant say no to that but the way they teach is terribe

their whole knocking out kids 1-2 year is crazy

i think they stopped that now cause it was causing a lot of trouble

[worldly ridge]

arent u homelss

oh wait i forgot, u just recently bought a luxury condo in harborder front

[weak gazelle]

yea G pays pretty well at L7 (L8 is Principle)

Andre being considered for that

[lapis tide]

school principle

[weak gazelle]

Principle at York

[worldly ridge]

congrats on g

congrats on kinaxis

[fiery prism]

Congrats on kinaxis

[dark lintel]

Anybody living in residences at the well or liberty house in dt Toronto?

Would love to know the bad side of it

G review only says good things

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/tissue-roll-hangging-suicide-funny-gif-22276377

[fossil field]

pretty dangerous

lots and lots of homeless and trouble

[icy cave]

I don’t think AndreML is real

[eternal fossil]

hes a glitch in the matrix

[icy cave]

Do u think he can do fizzbuzz without Google

[fiery prism]

congrats on pointclickcare, linkedin, intuit, google, msft,....

[worldly ridge]

congrats on konrad

[fossil field]

meow

[fossil field]

live in etobs its the best place in gta