canada

[vivid fiber]

Ehh idk

[quartz ridge]

Like for prestige and stuff

[vivid fiber]

I just know a bunch of companies

[quartz ridge]

Or is it mostly based on the hiring bar?

[vivid fiber]

Hiring bar is one factor

[quartz ridge]

And cisco > autodesk?

[vivid fiber]

I'd say that they're close, but Cisco is prob better yeah

Altho I would choose Autodesk depending on team placement

They r around the same tier

If that makes sense

Snowflake is a higher tier

[quartz ridge]

I see. How about companies like arctic wolf, geotab, sap, intuit, faire

how would these ones rank?

yeah that makes sense

[vivid fiber]

I'm lazy so I wont do anymore

Good day

[quartz ridge]

i feel like arctic wolf is good

but it's just cause the name is cool af

[vivid fiber]

Arctic Wolf is good

[quartz ridge]

wb geotab?

[vivid fiber]

Prob a tier under Cisco + Autodesk due to less name recog

[vivid fiber]

Below arctic fox

Also this is all my opinion

[quartz ridge]

i think it's fair

on that note how is faire?

so geotab similar to kinaxis

[lapis tide]

you need to solely refer to prestigehunt.com

it is the authoritative source

[quartz ridge]

oh ok

ill check it out

it doesnt seem that good @lapis tide

are u tickling me?

[lapis tide]

i'd love to

[quartz ridge]

u are tickling me thinking i am a weak opponent

[obsidian adder]

Just take the job lmao

[vivid fiber]

No worse

[vivid fiber]

Prestige hunt is ass lmao

https://prestigehunt.bearblog.dev/august-september-rankings-incident-postmortem/

Any company that lets this happen isn't trustworthy

[quartz ridge]

lool. ya and it is user ranked data

[azure junco]

i haven't heard of faire, arctic wolf, or geotab

what do they do

when i see geotab i immediately think gaotek

[analog current]

my amazon email:

[storm stream]

Anyone get Instacart phone?

[wheat comet]

Congrats on amazon

[smoky cypress]

yeah, they're about to deliver my grocery to me, one item was out of stock

[storm stream]

bro

[drifting shore]

faire is a b2b marketplace between retailers and brands, arctic wolf is cybersecurity

[analog current]

i love computer

[lapis tide]

wtf is a marketplace between retailers and brands

oh wholesale

[azure junco]

Congrats on gong cha

[vivid fiber]

Fun fact, these things are all googleable

[vivid fiber]

Chatime is mid

[wheat comet]

whats ur order

[broken whale]

You get?

I got an email from the recruiter in dec saying they are viewing apps

And it’s gonna take em a while

But non after that

[vivid fiber]

Idr its been a while

[storm stream]

Nah I didn't my friend did

[turbid crater]

😂😂

[broken whale]

Bruh

Did you get the email from the recruiter in dec about the apps taking long? @storm stream

[storm stream]

Nah I didn't 😦

gg for me

[broken whale]

F

[storm stream]

did you submit a 600?

[broken whale]

I got no gca

[storm stream]

oh no OA?

[broken whale]

No

[storm stream]

bro 😭

[broken whale]

Just this

[storm stream]

F

[lapis tide]

nice name

[broken whale]

Thenk

[vivid fiber]

Bad name

Why so pessimistic 😞

[broken whale]

[wary tundra]

hootesuite reject!

[languid fulcrum]

SHOPIFY OPENED APPS!!!!

[glossy condor]

i think they say that to everyone tbh

[glossy condor]

lol just got that too

what's crazy is that they wanted you to specify your time availabilities before they even saw your resume

[glossy condor]

lol i was at geotab in 2023. more than half the new interns were from waterloo, it was crazy

[real mason]

how was the pay?

[glossy condor]

$27/hour

for reference, i got a separate offer from TD bank for $26/hour

[neon imp]

I guess their tab isn’t so big

[glossy condor]

went with geotab cause it was 8 month and td was 4 month

[neon imp]

Is loo 8 month placements?

[glossy condor]

im not from waterloo

[neon imp]

Oh sorry

[glossy condor]

and idk. another intern i worked with was from waterloo, and he also did an 8-month term

[neon imp]

Do you regret choosing geotab over TD?

[glossy condor]

no

td, it was just a testing position for their mobile app

i think i got to do a lot more at geotab

[neon imp]

Gotcha thanks

[broken whale]

You got it too?

[broken whale]

For their hiring spree thingy?

[glossy condor]

i've just gotten countless emails with similar wording to that. it's very hr-speaky.

[broken whale]

Prolly idk

It was not automated tho

But well nothing happened after that

So joever anyways

Why i not get hootsuite reject

[glossy condor]

interesting...
they might get back to you way later. that happened to me with General Dynamics Mission Systems

they contacted me like 2 months after the interview asking for follow up

[broken whale]

Yeah let’s see

[obsidian adder]

Does anyone know what Amazon comp is for interns

Have an offer but just got sent two oas wonder if it was worth taking or not

[drifting shore]

very good

[glossy condor]

take the oas anyway

if you have an offer in this economy, it's really worth considering taking

[analog current]

dm me

[quartz ridge]

thats insane. do you know the new grad pay for geotab?

27/hr for an intern is great to hear. i think most interns will get 20-25/hr

[glossy condor]

i asked for 18/hour 💀 and they bumped it up to 27

[lapis tide]

they bumped it up to 18

[glossy condor]

apparently they give all their interns the same pay

[glossy condor]

no idea. they don't seem to have new grad positions this time around

[worthy orbit]

no way u think thats insane. Thats average for canada

anyone apply to shopify? am i tripping or arent all of these insights mentioned in that article

[storm stream]

link pls

[lapis tide]

Shopify dot. Com

[glossy condor]

there's only the "we're always hiring" thing which puts you into a data bank

[storm stream]

I don't see it there

[fierce lotus]

bruh wtf are those questions

[fierce lotus]

2nd one i think

[worthy orbit]

i thought it was the first one

[fierce lotus]

oh ye could be that too

[worthy orbit]

cuz thats what the mentor* did and it wasnt an insight

[quartz ridge]

i dont think 27 is average though

i think 20-25 is the typical range

for interns in canada

anything above that is more than 1 standard deviation from the mean

[worthy orbit]

i mean big companies pay like 45+

27 is def avg

maybe a in the higher range of avg

[quartz ridge]

27 is not average

[worthy orbit]

thats like less than 60k a year

[quartz ridge]

i would ballpark 60% of companies pay between 20-25

low to mid 20

[worthy orbit]

no way thats true

[quartz ridge]

its 52k

not 60k

which is a big diff

[worthy orbit]

i think pey reports at my uni reported like 55-60k as the avg for cs majors

[quartz ridge]

like some new grads get 60k starting

like most new grads get like what 65-85k?

and for interns it would be like 40-60k

for most

[quartz ridge]

in canada??

[worthy orbit]

yes

[quartz ridge]

i dont think u just mean big right. like big tech

cause lots of non tech big companies

will pay low

[hallow sapphire]

canada doesn't hire T_T

[worthy orbit]

lots of non fangs do

[quartz ridge]

like which ones will pay 45?

in canada

[worthy orbit]

wealthsimple

[quartz ridge]

i know amazon

wealthsimple is not big?

it's barely outside of startup scope

[worthy orbit]

its not fang

[quartz ridge]

its not a big company

it's tiny

[worthy orbit]

Fuck cant sort by canada on levels anymore. But there were a lot more compaies that payed 40+ for interns in canada. Usually US companies that had a base in canada

[vivid fiber]

yeah my only offer in canada was 70k

[fierce lotus]

Shopify oa auto?

[placid dawn]

[zinc knot]

you already got OA?

tf

[fierce lotus]

Yes

Afer 30 mins

After

[quartz ridge]

how much does shopify pay for interns and new grad

in canada?

[fierce lotus]

Wbu @zinc knot ?

Idk

Seems to be auto

[zinc knot]

i didnt get it yet

applied 3:30

[fierce lotus]

Oh

[zinc knot]

[fierce lotus]

I applied 4:30

Weird

Maybe depends on those stupid questions

[worthy orbit]

maybe its auto if u answer those questions right

theyre so stupid dont even make sense

[fierce lotus]

Did u get ir

It

[worthy orbit]

i havent submitted yet

still rereading the article for 10th time

[zinc knot]

i answered them all right bruh

vignere was piss easy too

[fierce lotus]

Bruh just find

[worthy orbit]

how do u know if its right

[zinc knot]

ctrl + f

[fierce lotus]

Ye

[zinc knot]

really hard to get them wrong bruh'

[worthy orbit]

how all these insights are mentioned

[fierce lotus]

For vignere I used some online calculator

[worthy orbit]

the other questions make sense

only this one

[zinc knot]

within the text?

[worthy orbit]

yes

[zinc knot]

3 start with my mentor one doesn't

[fierce lotus]

I didn't put that

[fierce lotus]

I put the honest one

Ye 2 was worded differently so i put that

[worthy orbit]

so the one that starts with they is the answer?

they just replaced my mentor with they...

[fierce lotus]

Idk

@zinc knot it might be in spam

[zinc knot]

no my status on smartr hasnt changed

i know one more guy who got the OA

[fierce lotus]

It'll say in activities

Did it say someone viewed

For u

[quartz ridge]

who has intern or ng offer sfor shopify

what is the pay

[worthy orbit]

honestly if u havent got oa yet, then u prob put the wrong answer for that

[zinc knot]

know someone with the same answers as me who got it bruh

[worthy orbit]

now he know hes a capper

[fierce lotus]

I doubt they looked at resume

[fierce lotus]

Does it say this @zinc knot

[zinc knot]

neh

thog dont care

sleep ass take home

[molten abyss]

am I dumb or the last article for the puzzle thing is not there 💀

[zinc knot]

not an article

gotta solve it

[quartz ridge]

can u refer for sap

[zinc knot]

hint literally says its a vignere cipher

key is DEVDEGREE

[quartz ridge]

referral me for SAP?

[molten abyss]

ah okok

[zinc knot]

answer is PERCENTTHIRTY btw @molten abyss

[molten abyss]

I am dumb lmao

tyty

[zinc knot]

have fun

[molten abyss]

[zinc knot]

[molten abyss]

I ain't there anymore

D:

[quartz ridge]

aw man

where did u go next?

[molten abyss]

cisco

and then unemployed

[quartz ridge]

cisco is so goodd

is that also van

[molten abyss]

yea

[quartz ridge]

vancouver

[molten abyss]

pay was surprising for canada

[timid trail]

wtf when i submitted shopify app it sent me 4 confirmation emails

[quartz ridge]

wat is it?

[molten abyss]

but that's about the only thing I liked

[molten abyss]

40.58

[drifting shore]

Meraki?

[molten abyss]

naw

[drifting shore]

wat

normal cisco pay is 40?

[molten abyss]

the other intern in my same team got 32

but I got 40

cause I had more exp

before starting

[azure junco]

Wtf I thought cisco pays like $28-$32

[molten abyss]

he got 32

[drifting shore]

same

lol

[molten abyss]

I think mine was adjusted cause I had 1 year of exp

one part time at my school for 4 months and 8 months at sap

[worthy orbit]

if im graduating dec 2024 would this be ok to put

[quartz ridge]

40 is insane for cisco

[molten abyss]

yupp

wealthsimple is 48 iirc

citi is 43

[molten abyss]

yea but I think that was my intern cohort tho

cause my friend just got cisco offer for summer

and he got offered 31

although he has exp as well

[quartz ridge]

damn you did 8 months sap

[molten abyss]

so idk how it works

[quartz ridge]

8 months is soo good in our market

[worthy orbit]

see told u 40+ in canada isnt that rare

[quartz ridge]

cuz no one can find stuff

cisco was 4 month tho right?

[molten abyss]

well Cisco was 1 year

i quit after 8

[quartz ridge]

there's like < 10 companies

[molten abyss]

I was supposed to still be working this sem

[quartz ridge]

1 year is wild

[molten abyss]

yea but I got to take courses with it

[quartz ridge]

thats like a full time salary

[molten abyss]

so I was fine

I think it was like 90k ish

[quartz ridge]

full time salary as an intern

[molten abyss]

with sign on bonus

and other stuff

[crisp zinc]

shopify oa is auto

[quartz ridge]

ya 41/hr is legit a new grad salary damn

[worthy orbit]

nah prob around 30

[molten abyss]

def more than 10

but not common

[quartz ridge]

luffy think its common

lol

[molten abyss]

canada is just ass

[quartz ridge]

40 is not common for intern...

[sour lark]

If u got full time offer for after grad but still have another coop would u go same company or diff

[drifting shore]

<20

[quartz ridge]

its prob like top 1%

salary in canada

[molten abyss]

msft van is 25-30 ish

[quartz ridge]

for an intern

[molten abyss]

my friend at msft

got 25

and my gf got 31

sad

[quartz ridge]

even for a new grad 40/hr is prob like top 25%

or smth in canada

[molten abyss]

man

this country is whack

[quartz ridge]

think about it

100k is 48/hr

[molten abyss]

I think google is under 40

[quartz ridge]

how many new grads make 48/hr

[molten abyss]

my friend did google in canada

[quartz ridge]

like very very few

in canada

[molten abyss]

she got 38?

iirc

[quartz ridge]

yea google is 38/hr

for intern

[molten abyss]

it's not that the pay is like

bad or anything

it's that

for the same company in the states

[quartz ridge]

US peeps are getting like 60/hr

[molten abyss]

they pay so much more

yea that's the dumb thing

[quartz ridge]

lmfoamfoamfoamofamfaoa

thats whack

[molten abyss]

like even if it's the same team and u just live here

they cut ur pay

by so much

[quartz ridge]

more than half

tbh

[molten abyss]

yea

[quartz ridge]

its like legit more than half

[molten abyss]

my friend worked for nvidia

team based in cali

[quartz ridge]

what is nvidia canada vs cali

[molten abyss]

but he chose remote in canada

and he got 35

that's lower than me

[quartz ridge]

LOOOL

wtf

[molten abyss]

35 cad

[quartz ridge]

isnt nvidia like 70usd

[worthy orbit]

Instacart, Wish, Coinbase, Stripe also all pay more than 40 in canada

[quartz ridge]

for some roles

[fierce lotus]

How hard is Shopify oa

[molten abyss]

upto 93

[fierce lotus]

I applied for backend

[twilit spoke]

@fierce lotus did you start the shopify OA yet?

[quartz ridge]

its like 19-93

or smth

[molten abyss]

it was like some full stack app in 2021 iirc

[fierce lotus]

No

[molten abyss]

like u had to make apis and a ui

[quartz ridge]

ye theres not 30 tho lol

[molten abyss]

I think

[worthy orbit]

u got it?

[quartz ridge]

like ur naming the handfull

[fierce lotus]

Wtf

[quartz ridge]

that pay 40

[drifting shore]

wayfair is exactly 40

[molten abyss]

I just got the oa

applied 8 min ago

[fierce lotus]

Lol

[twilit spoke]

yeah i got it like instantly so I think its based on the questions

[fierce lotus]

Y it's auto

[worthy orbit]

just think of any big company that has a branch in canada and they prob pay 40+

[fierce lotus]

Ye

[worthy orbit]

what did u put for the mentor insights question thats tricky af

[molten abyss]

the only company ik that pays high

is DRW

I think 85/hr

[fierce lotus]

Oh

[molten abyss]

cad

[fierce lotus]

Forget drw lmao

[twilit spoke]

the honesty one

[fierce lotus]

I have no chance

[molten abyss]

depends tho

my friend was at riot

[fierce lotus]

They expect high gpa ye

[molten abyss]

and she worked remote in canada

[worthy orbit]

bruh every guys said a different answer for this

[molten abyss]

and instead of docking her pay

they were nice enough to

convert it

so she got 80/hr

cad

[twilit spoke]

@fierce lotus said the same thing no?

[fierce lotus]

Ye

[worthy orbit]

ur friend did cap

[fierce lotus]

Yep

[molten abyss]

unlike other companies that nerf it

[fierce lotus]

I put honesty

[timid trail]

i got shopify oa immediately

[fierce lotus]

@molten abyss wbu

[molten abyss]

I put honesty

[fierce lotus]

Ok

[molten abyss]

is that the

[timid trail]

also put honesty

[fierce lotus]

It's honestly

[molten abyss]

can u sc the answer

[fierce lotus]

Lol

[molten abyss]

okok

LMAO

[worthy orbit]

did u get oa?

[molten abyss]

yea

like 2 min ago

[fierce lotus]

ur friend is Capping @zinc knot

[timid trail]

Wait can i switch disciplines i dont know rails and the oa is in rails for backend

[fierce lotus]

Oh what

Fuck

[worthy orbit]

what did u guys put for grad date? maybe htye also look at that

[fierce lotus]

Can we

[timid trail]

2025 grad date

[molten abyss]

ew it's in rails?

[worthy orbit]

ik some companies like to prioritize final years

[quartz ridge]

85/hr

for intern?

thats bullish

like montreal?

location

[molten abyss]

DRW

[timid trail]

ionno prob gonna, you can edit your application

[quartz ridge]

DRW montreal right

[molten abyss]

yea

[timid trail]

I dont see why they would care if i changed it

[molten abyss]

wait I wanna change to frontend now wtf

who tf uses rails

[fierce lotus]

Which one has an oa in python

[molten abyss]

💀

[quartz ridge]

oh Squarepoint Capital is pretty good too

i think 45/hr

its also in montreal

[molten abyss]

none for now I think

idk what infra uses

[fierce lotus]

You can

[molten abyss]

oh can u

ok I will switch

[timid trail]

theres no python oa

[molten abyss]

yea rip

react

react native

rails

ok I switched

😭

[fierce lotus]

F

[timid trail]

r u allowed to tho

[fierce lotus]

I'll do data

[molten abyss]

glgl

[fierce lotus]

Data seems ez

[molten abyss]

errr

[worthy orbit]

does ur application load on smartr

[molten abyss]

too late LMAO

[molten abyss]

yea

[worthy orbit]

bruh

[molten abyss]

that's how I switched

in the preliminary questions section

u can edit

[worthy orbit]

ive refreshed a hundred times

its always blank

[molten abyss]

try on incognito?

[worthy orbit]

same thing

i think its a glitch

[molten abyss]

oof

hmm

[worthy orbit]

my accounts just fucked

[molten abyss]

damn

[worthy orbit]

hopefully it hasnt been effecting any of my applications

[molten abyss]

hopefully 🫠

man canada has like no jobs 💀

[timid trail]

i switched anyway lmao i dont know ruby

[fierce lotus]

Switched to?

[timid trail]

waht

frontend

[fierce lotus]

Ah

I'll switch to data lol

[zinc knot]

infra>

[molten abyss]

recruiter watching this channel after we got the OA:
👁️ 👄 👁️

[zinc knot]

shopify intern cohort mega tiny anyway

most of them will be loo kids

[molten abyss]

damn

I only know one person in my school who worked there

rip

[zinc knot]

what school

[molten abyss]

ubc

[zinc knot]

real

[fierce lotus]

Oh ye this works too but I didn't put go on my resume lol

Will be weird if i do that

[drifting shore]

Carleton?

[zinc knot]

upto u bro

[zinc knot]

im not recruiter 💀

[molten abyss]

💀

[fierce lotus]

Lol

[smoky flare]

nah like 45

[molten abyss]

oh really

[drifting shore]

No way it’s that low

[molten abyss]

🗿

[hallow sapphire]

@molten abyss u know more than a few

[smoky flare]

at least a few years ago thats what someone from my university got

[hallow sapphire]

or they just never told you

[molten abyss]

hmm

I just recall one from the top of my head

[stable ravine]

shopify

[molten abyss]

[stable ravine]

[vivid fiber]

GitHub, Shopify, Stripe, Instacart, Twitter, Airbnb, Basecamp

[molten abyss]

🗿

[fierce lotus]

Damn should learn

[vivid fiber]

It's not really popular anymore

[fierce lotus]

Oh

What's popular now

Go?

[vivid fiber]

But at a time startups would choose Ruby on Rails

[vivid fiber]

For startups, prob Node or Python

Node tbh

Most likely

[fierce lotus]

Hmm

[real island]

Wealthsimple

[fiery prism]

Ibm

[worthy orbit]

got shopify oa thx for the help guys

[molten abyss]

ngl idek if it's worth doing it

it's so long

just to be considered

man

[worthy orbit]

i dont think its auto tho took over an hour

honest

y

[analog jasper]

whats the link for shopify?

[strange jay]

wait ppl getting oa now?

for shopify?

[stable ravine]

take home has any time limit?

15mins

[worthy orbit]

over an hour for me. ( like hour 30 mins) if it was auto wouldnt it be the same for everyone

[polar dust]

for new grad?

[gritty siren]

summer intern

[worthy orbit]

i dont think they have new grad

[wheat comet]

I got a question for all yall new grads that still dont have a job yet. Do you guys know oop? Like if i told you can you make a Person class for a bank could you do it without googling solution? Could you access apis in ur code and use it (weather api/open ai for examples) and do something with them? Do you understand some sql and db relationships? If i told you to design a table could you do it or query a table?

[strange jay]

apps opened tdy right?

like how are yall getting oas now

[gritty siren]

i didnt get shit yet

[stable ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/jaden-smith-jaden-smith-political-economical-gif-26153980

[gritty siren]

[worthy orbit]

rave?

[stable ravine]

I want job wer rave

[worldly elk]

Anyone done the snowflake Online Assessment for software engineering intern summer?

[gloomy grotto]

i just completed a course on that, its called - Object Oriented Programming
I can make classes in code
and if you are talking about making class diagrams- yes i can do that too
i have used tons of api in Reactjs and Nextjs projects.

I also did a course called- Database management systems, and some projects with it, so yeah i can do that too.

[glossy condor]

man... i remember last year when i applied to 42 nokia internships and was rejected for all of them. myworkday is ASS

[lapis tide]

also for goodness sakes why tf are you guys applying to fanng, microsoft etc. I bet most of yall barely know oop. Please for goodness sakes apply to smaller to mid companies and even local ones

[glossy condor]

i can make a person class. super easy. need to google APIs. i've only used spring boot plugins when making tables in java

you're usually doing queries more often than creating a table

[willow wave]

I just got the OA tn, apparently its pretty tough

[worldly elk]

rip, goodluck g

[willow wave]

[drifting panther]

What are some testing issues the intern in "How Shopify writes scalable GO services" runs into

Where'd yall find the article for this

I couldn't find it on google

[molten abyss]

It's in the question

Like hover over the question

And it will be a link to the shopify article

[drifting panther]

why doesnt it open a new tab lmao

this shits so dumb

now i gotta rewrite everything

[worthy orbit]

wdym? (I havent opened it yet) Do you have to make some codesandbox repo like for ramp?

[worthy orbit]

can u choose any language?

[waxen oriole]

u just fork the repo they provide and work on ur own branch

[broken whale]

Snowflake oa is joever

[drifting shore]

real

doing it for practice

[broken whale]

no time

skipping

[kind hazel]

wait shopify oa is not a lc?

[storm stream]

it's not an OA it's a take home project

[kind hazel]

finally some good shit

[storm stream]

1. write a really good readme
2. deploy it somewhere live

[drifting panther]

How long does shopify OA take after applying?

[storm stream]

I tihnk everyone gets the take home challenge

[azure junco]

Imagine doing a whole side project for the mere possibility of interviewing with a dying company

[worthy orbit]

i think its auto but only if u got all the questions right

[boreal sorrel]

Citi is like 43

[worthy orbit]

yes, other guy was saying $27/hr for canada is insane 😭. Blud doesnt know theres a bunch of non fang companies paying close to double that in Canada

[quartz ridge]

any of u guys know shopify new grad pay

[quartz ridge]

me

that is me who said it

20-25 is the norm

30-40 is very high

40+ is top 1%

thats all imma say

[kind hazel]

damn didnt get the oa

[quartz ridge]

i got shopify oa

[kind hazel]

guess I dont know how to read

[quartz ridge]

what is the intern and new grad pay im curious

[worthy orbit]

i got it an hour after

[kind hazel]

way too low imo lmao

thats for intern btw

[worthy orbit]

thats usd

[drifting panther]

It’s 40 an hour

[quartz ridge]

yes but its USD

[worthy orbit]

its way higher

[kind hazel]

tbf tho montreal cost of living is low

[worthy orbit]

for CAD

[quartz ridge]

its prob like 40-45 cad/hr

but what about new grad?

[worthy orbit]

literally every decently big company pays 40+ in Canada

[quartz ridge]

thats huge cap

lol

[drifting panther]

I’m guessing less than 150k new grad

[worthy orbit]

how

[quartz ridge]

SAP

pays 30

[worthy orbit]

no their ng base is 110k

[quartz ridge]

Autodesk

pays like 30

nokia

pays like 30

what about RBC

all of those

pay nowhere near 40

[worthy orbit]

nokia is not huge, RBC is not huge

[quartz ridge]

brother

[worthy orbit]

Autodesk i doubt they pay 30

[quartz ridge]

u literally said wealthsimple

when i asked u for a huge compnay

[worthy orbit]

theyre huge tho

[quartz ridge]

...

autodesk pays 30 my friend interned there in toronto too

[worthy orbit]

honestly everyone uses them or either questrade to invest

[kind hazel]

lmao which company has a bigger marketing budget

[quartz ridge]

wealth simple is tiny lol

[worthy orbit]

https://www.levels.fyi/internships/Autodesk/Software-Engineer-Intern/

30 usd/hr

way more Cad

[quartz ridge]

nah

[worthy orbit]

ur friend lied

[quartz ridge]

he got 30/hr in toronto

lotta ppl input data

not knowing whether to put usd or cad lol

thats a huge pain point of levels.fyi

[worthy orbit]

yea thats true but autodesk should pay higher

companies on their level pay way more

[quartz ridge]

their new grad is like 90 k

[worthy orbit]

tbh idek if autodesk is huge just rmember using their software for a robotics course

[quartz ridge]

another one is SAP, they pay anywhere from 28-34 based on ur year in school

but their new grad is 100k

so idk

they make like AutoCAD stuff

what are u making as an intern then

if u think most big companies pay 40

like Google pays high 30

not even 40

and it's google lol

[worthy orbit]

i dont wanna dox myself but i think probably one of the highest paying companies in canada

dm

if uw anna know

[normal jetty]

its true , autodesk is 30

[worthy orbit]

damn thats low for them

[normal jetty]

DM'd

[drifting panther]

Did you say honesty for that one mentorship insight questions?

[worthy orbit]

yes

[kind hazel]

I put honesty then switch still nothing

[worthy orbit]

how long have u been waiting?

[kind hazel]

40 mins

shopify is the only company that my cv directly related to so if I dont get this

I'm fcked

also put infra eng so that might make a different

[ashen mason]

G just did layoffs

[kind hazel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[kind hazel]

and people are saying tech job market is recovering

[worthy orbit]

dw i got it like an hour and 30 mins after applying

[drifting panther]

its been 2 hours 😦

[fierce lotus]

u can swap answers later asw

i swapped to data lmao

coz backend was in ruby

[molten abyss]

maybe they're backed up or smth

[kind hazel]

ya apprently idk how to read or smth

[kind hazel]

I want infra cause I did backend b4, my last internship was literally migrating part of a ruby on rails app to golang so I couldnt possibly think of a more fitting job

[wary tundra]

yes

[broken whale]

damn

i didnt get shit

prolly ghosted

[wary tundra]

Tim Hortons pays close to $40 / hr for interns 🤣

[vivid fiber]

Ride or die for RBI

[wary tundra]

doesn't look like RBI is hiring software dev interns this year unfortunately

[wary tundra]

you still have hope, afterall they said screening stage was jan 15th

[vivid fiber]

Nvm then

[wary tundra]

guess they got a head start on rejecting me 😂

[broken whale]

double double intern?

[wary tundra]

my friend who interned there said it was pretty good actually, modern tech stack with scale

[broken whale]

ye ik

[wary tundra]

I assume it's mostly focused on the app

[broken whale]

it's a good company

[stable ravine]

wb starbucks

[naive shell]

Boycott

[kind hazel]

tim horton's android app is one of the worst modern app that I have ever used lol

shit is as clunky as it can get

[wary tundra]

it's the weather widget

[vivid fiber]

They were data harvesting too 😊

[lapis tide]

Were

[azure junco]

""were""

Tim Hortons app is genuinely buggiest and least efficient app I have ever used

If anyone here works at RBI please fix whatever causes it to hang for like 90+ seconds after every button tap

[hallow sapphire]

fuck rbi

they ghosted me after they froze hiring

and I had to ask my friend to ask wtf happened

[waxen oriole]

hi sierra

[analog current]

Hey

Hru

[waxen oriole]

good hbu

[analog current]

I’m okay

[polar dust]

has there been any new grad jobs open yet? still just seeing immediate hires

[vivid fiber]

thats the data harvesting

[quartz ridge]

No way Tim Horton pays 40 lol

Who’s ur friend

[vivid fiber]

RBC and Autodesk can pay up to 45

Depends on role + team + exp

[vivid fiber]

Also don't ask users to dox their friends...

[real island]

I heard they posted apps last year

So we prob missed it

[real island]

LMAO

[short marsh]

wtf are the questions on Shopify intern application? 💀

just give me the oa bro

[analog current]

Fr 😭

[velvet spire]

just run it through chatgpt lol

[short marsh]

im getting error 400, im confused

[willow wave]

Not sure tbh, Im gonna do it in a few days

[quartz ridge]

There’s no way Shopify pays 110base for new grad

That is like a senior compensation

Most likely 90k max ish if I were to ballpark

[azure junco]

A lot of bigger companies pay $110k-$130k base in Canada

Outside of faang

Anything that involves high profit margins

[worldly ridge]

hi friend

its nice

[tawny zephyr]

@worldly ridgeu graduated?

[worldly ridge]

yes

[tawny zephyr]

ur making me feel old bro

remember when I was in gr 10

[worldly ridge]

bro im supposed to be saying that....

[tawny zephyr]

and we got lunch

[worldly ridge]

[tawny zephyr]

ok that sounds sus

[worldly ridge]

you are my son

it is olay

[tawny zephyr]

yes

[worldly ridge]

okay

[tawny zephyr]

where u working

[worldly ridge]

u got into hardvard ?

i will DM

[tawny zephyr]

didnt apply lol

[worldly ridge]

yeah but ull get in...

arent u going to uni dis year tho

[tawny zephyr]

next year

2024 fall is when I start

oh

its 2024

yeah so this year

[worldly ridge]

😭😭😭

[tawny zephyr]

yeah bro im getting old

before you know it I am going to be in a wheelchair

asking what happened to the days

[worldly ridge]

yallah habibi dont say that

we have our whole lives to live for

i hope u enjoy uni

first year was so fun

[tawny zephyr]

thanks

cohere got back to me for this summer

[worldly ridge]

u working der dis summer?

[tawny zephyr]

not yet

they said they put me on the shortlist

[worldly ridge]

oo okok

hopefuly it works out

🙂

[short marsh]

am i the only one who's getting error 400 when applying at shopify?

[azure junco]

part of the project is to hack into their servers and fix the bug

[polar comet]

did anyone do the shopify data eng OA?

[short marsh]

huh?

i need to debug fr?

[azure junco]

nonon i was joking 😭

sorry i should've made that clearer

[lapis tide]

hes joking about joking

you need to debug

[azure junco]

i think there's just something wrong with their website because someone else had the same issue

[short marsh]

yea their api is responding "unable to create job application" ._.

[tawny zephyr]

thanks

🙏

they havent started recruiting yet

so hopefully soon

[zenith eagle]

who here applying for shopify

[short marsh]

no shopify this year ig

[zenith eagle]

what's the oa?

you know what i

i'll fake apply

[eager haven]

they're different for frontend, backend, mobile, data eng, infra

[zenith eagle]

come on don't be like that what's the oa (for anything idc)

[eager haven]

its all on their github lmao

[zenith eagle]

send link pls

sorry for the trouble

[eager haven]

brother

https://github.com/Shopify

just go through the repos

[zenith eagle]

what do i search for, i know i can go through the repos

oa doesn't give me anything

nor does backend

[lapis tide]

why tf would oa give you stuff

[zenith eagle]

so does challenge

[lapis tide]

https://github.com/orgs/Shopify/repositories?q=intern&type=all&language=&sort=

[zenith eagle]

ty

ok this looks annoying as fuck

and they're askin for rails exp

[short marsh]

oh

well that was interesting..

[violet topaz]

I hate shopify’s tech stack

Web dev ahhhh company

[zenith eagle]

yeah i absoluted hated working in rails

[violet topaz]

I don’t know any JS/TS or react or rails or any of that crap tho

[zenith eagle]

like my mentor and i would talk shit about rails

[violet topaz]

I’ll go the rest of my career not knowing web development and be happy for it

[zenith eagle]

what is ur niche?

embedded?

[quartz ridge]

“A lot” - doubt

90 is high for new grad yeah

[vivid fiber]

Where are these bigger companies

[quartz ridge]

Some may pay 110-130 but “a lot” is troll 😂

A select few is much more accurate lol

[vivid fiber]

Which companies tho

[quartz ridge]

Google, Zon, Stripe, Coinbase

[drifting shore]

wayfair

[real mason]

maybe microsoft, arista?

[quartz ridge]

Prob some more but “a lot” is a huge stretch

[vivid fiber]

Oh yeahs i know of those ones

[drifting shore]

[vivid fiber]

I thot they wer gonna spill some secrets

[quartz ridge]

I want bro to back up “a lot”

[azure junco]

Bolt, Rippling, Wish, Wayfair, Ebay, Mozilla, Etsy

to name a few

off the top of my head

[quartz ridge]

Mozilla? Doubt

EBay also doubt

[real mason]

Pinterest has a toronto office too right?

[quartz ridge]

Wayfair pays that much in Canada?

Like Bolt, Rippling, wish I can see that for sure

[drifting shore]

same numerical value as the us pay

[quartz ridge]

EBay Mozilla seeems sus

[azure junco]

brex, instacart, jp morgan, adobe, qualcomm, snap inc, stripe, linkedin, yelp, square, intuit, workday

[drifting shore]

but diff currency

[azure junco]

actually numerical value is higher in toronto than austin

[quartz ridge]

JP Morgan no chance

[real mason]

Okta?

[quartz ridge]

Qualcomm, Workday no chance

[azure junco]

ok sell yourself short and enjoy a 60k new grad salary

[quartz ridge]

Unless you mean TC

There’s no universe where workday or Mozilla pays 110-130 base

Where r u pulling these numbers from lol

G pays 110

Mozilla pays more base than Google?

Doubt my friend….

[vivid fiber]

Mozilla pays well

[vivid fiber]

They do

[azure junco]

please

you need to change your mindset

faang is not the end all be all of pay

there are many companies that pay more than faang

[vivid fiber]

Snap also pays v well

[quartz ridge]

I know

Snap for sure

[real mason]

Slack, dropbox, grammarly, Splunk

[quartz ridge]

Didn’t doubt that one

[quartz ridge]

These make sense too

The ones that I’m skeptics of

Are JPMorgan

Workday, Qualcomm

They sound like very mid tier below Faang so salary wise

Wouldn’t expect comp to match

[azure junco]

coinbase, doordash, coursera

[quartz ridge]

Same as eBay

[quartz ridge]

Don’t doubt this either

That makes sense

[azure junco]

"i feel like they shouldn't pay a lot therefore they don't pay a lot"

[quartz ridge]

Quant is always a lot more than swe

Can’t compare that

[violet topaz]

High performance applications

C++

[quartz ridge]

lol you’re straw manning now

[drifting shore]

hubspot

[azure junco]

i am quoting you

[real mason]

doesn't ford pay ~100k entry level

[quartz ridge]

They are mid tier

You think they are as prestigious as G?

Say you have a Workday or Qualcomm engineer vs a Netflix meta engineer

[azure junco]

we aren't talking about prestige though

we are talking about just money

[drifting shore]

prestige!=pay

[quartz ridge]

Ok but they’re pretty strongly correlated no

[azure junco]

no

they're not

[vivid fiber]

Qualcomm pays 180k tc

[azure junco]

apple is one of the most prestigious companies

ever

[twilit vault]

Is anyone interested in sharing a educative membership?

[azure junco]

they pay less than all the faangs

[quartz ridge]

That’s insane lol

[zenith eagle]

no ng roles

[vivid fiber]

Not this yr unfortunately

[zenith eagle]

my luck i stg

[azure junco]

learn php and cobol, it's probably the least prestigious thing you can do but you can earn like 200k+ if you can find a good company

there's a lot of money in work that no one wants to do but the world relies on

[quartz ridge]

Don’t pigeonhole urself intentionally

Just learn some enterprise language like Java spring boot

[vivid fiber]

PHP got me my 1st, 2nd, and 3rd lambos

Good investment

[azure junco]

that's missing the point i'm making

my point is that prestige does not correlate with pay

[quartz ridge]

It does correlate. You’re cherry picking a specific company and saying it doesn’t pay well

Apple does pay well

Relative to a non prestigious quant firm like radix trading maybe not

[azure junco]

i gave you an example of like 10 companies that are considered less prestigious than faang but pay a lot more

[quartz ridge]

But in terms of bell curve distribution of pay for ng apple is up there

[vivid fiber]

Prestige does generally correlate with pay

[quartz ridge]

You have 10 cherry picked examples

It’s not a perfect correlation

There are outliers that are less prestigious than Faang and pay more no doubt

[vivid fiber]

You mention that Apple pays less than the rest of faang, yet they still pay more than the majority of companies

[quartz ridge]

This^

[vivid fiber]

Apple is still within the top 1~5% of pay for ng roles

[quartz ridge]

The premise is that prestige generally scales with pay. You named a few companies that are less prestigious than Faang and pay more. Yes outliers exist

[azure junco]

ok i can conceed that there is a correlation

[quartz ridge]

The overall trend is that generally prestigious companies pay well

[azure junco]

but i won't say that it's a hard and fast rule

[quartz ridge]

It’s not a perfect corrrelation

Take radix trading or arrowsteeet capital quant firms

Far less prestigious than most tech firms

Pays much more

Outliers always exist

[azure junco]

and i also want to point out that by getting into the mindset that 70k can be considered a pretty good salary, it is setting yourself up to miss out on better positions because the moment that something that pays around 70k-80k comes up, you are more likely to settle instead of gunning for something even better

[drifting shore]

prestigious companies pay well compared to non prestigious companies but it really doesn't hav much correlation between well known companies

[azure junco]

the 100k jobs exist, are out there, and you can get it with enough work

70k usd is good i will concede on that

in canada, especially in a big city like toronto or van i think it is a disservice to consider it good

[quartz ridge]

70 usd is same as 70cad if ur living in the Us and paying USD

[drifting shore]

the goal is always to achieve the maximum thats possible

[quartz ridge]

Unless ur making 70 usd working remote from Canada

[quartz ridge]

This changes over time though. As you get deeper into your career you might start prioritizing impact, WLB, etc and take a pay cut

[azure junco]

i mean if you're in a big city then yes but when i say the usa i'm also assuming cost of living is lower

i think we might just fundamentally have differing values

and that's okay

if you want to prioritize wlb or impact then yeah

[quartz ridge]

Different values on what?

[azure junco]

i would work 12 hr days for 200k tc

[lapis tide]

i would work 6 hr days for 200k tc

[vivid fiber]

I would work 0hr days for 900k tc

Sorry if thats controversial

[drifting shore]

24 hr days for 1000000000000k tc

[lapis tide]

👎

[drifting shore]

i would do it for 0.1 hr days

[quartz ridge]

@azure junco do you know the new grad pay for intuit and Shopify?

U seem to know a lot about pay