#canada
1 messages · Page 103 of 1
is it okay to ask for 1 week off a 4 month internship?
i also want to ask to extend the internship by 4 months later on as well, so...
generally no
yea why not
what would u say is typically okay?
None
Bank your pto
And cash out when contract endsn
But also I feel like taking a 3 day weekend once or twice is okay
Idk if much more looks good since an intern doesn't really do much in the grand scheme of things anyway
I'd talk to your manager and be real with them
and try to work out a solution
like some remote work or smth along the lines
yeah my internship is remote
but im not sure if i can work in another country
and the wedding isn't worth risking a potential internship extension
try to talk w/ ur manager
Yo @fossil field puttin y’all on GAME rn
no vacay during internships bro
it's a bad look
you can still ask but you can kiss that RO goodbye
unless you're insanely cracked and ahead of schedule etc
I've actually done this btw
Wasn't a problem
but I had a pretty chill team
is it just me or is the DRW OA relatively easy?
I expected something insane since its quant lol
Easy cuz it’s auto
Lol no
does your company give vacation days or are you paid out at paychecks
For me I accrued vacation days so I took a 1 week vacay during the first 4 months, extended the Internship by another 4 months after talking to my manager then took another vacation that term too
Huh so ig creating new headcount for swes out of thin air is common then
That doesn't look like osaka 
I think for some teams they already had headcount so they release the internal job posting first. If you happen to know the manager then they can prioritize you in the process even before having the external job postings. That's prob why people think the hiring teams specifically create a hc for them.
smaller places might be different tho.
its osaka after WW2 
Enjoy the vacation 
Okay that makes sense
technically, Osaka today is Osaka after WW2
oh I didnt know that, thanks 😅 I mean, a..a..arigato!
😃 👍
weeb
on GAME?
Like the whole process
oh yuh yuh u get it
it's giving assassin's creed 2 vibes
Have an offer to start in February but the company is about to bought out. Do mergers cause layoffs especially for ng hires?
Damn, I guess it wouldn't hurt to keep applying just incase. I was loving the break from the grind too
yea for sure keep applying
i only stopped cause i started the job a week after the interview
ye go to some raves to get more connections
I wish I could have started earlier but they're making me move to a new city so February was the best I could do
how do you talk to people over the sound of the music
its because its where ac2 takes place 
Idk ask @fossil field he got an offer from a rave
😂😂😂
@fossil field got Jane street from a rave
Dm him for advice
#1 reason to go to queens
it was easy yea
Anyone know how long it take RBC to respond after OA
fuck rbc
but
should be like
1 week?
The success rate for that strategy is low to begin with but I know from my own experience and friends that it does happen. Managers can get a bonus for hiring skilled ppl through referalls depending on a company as well so its not like it only benefits the person begging / networking for the job
For FT or internship
Almost a year since my interview and still waiting for the result

dw they still processing your application 🙏
Still cooking my 500k tc offer
intern
can i get one too
i want 99% of it to be base tho
Bruh 500k in this economy? U gonna live on the streets
he knows his value
is RBC auto
nope
Is ibm hacker rank auto
it is
fuck
idk if its auto but they resume screen after oa. Literally always get perfect on it but get rejected

Hi, guys, does anyone know when the 2024 fall Co-op positions start to open?
You can already start applying to internships on Indeed and LinkedIn
Unless you're talking about your uni's job board
Apply to summer internships and try to push to fall
nvm you're talking about fall
fall internships and coops usually open up in June and July
I plan to search both through my uni's resources and on LinkedIn. I'm wondering when companies generally open their positions for the fall of 2024
good idea
Thanks
welcome to china!
If I get done with school in late Aug 2025, my grad is in Oct 2025, can I apply for both 2025 new grad and 2026 new grad positions if I don't get 2025 ones
or just apply for 2026 ones since my grad is so late
1-2 weeks max
For Complete Video Course Signup at https://lms.attariclasses.in/youtube
Call/WhatsApp +91-7738375431
In this video, you are going to learn
- Amazon Machine Image
- Basics of AMI
If you liked this video, drop a comment and subscribe to this channel
We Provide Hands-On Practical Training for the AWS course
✔️ AWS Syllabus:- https://attaricl...
this is the funniest video i've seen in a while
bro made a whole ass video to explain what is AMI and it has 15k views 💀
@analog current
انت اجمل من تفاصيل الجمال، سوريا❤️ #سوريا #syria #abirzkitchen
this modal is killing me im not from the levant so i take offence to this
delete this right now
I lived in Aleppo 
do u have banger middle east songs or a playlist
dis is stuck in my head now 
https://open.spotify.com/track/5sK6ASFSHrXAQdHfsMID13?si=WkxMW6rlRei0HuK_iUfpzg
Grew up in Saudi so this has been on repeat https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DWU486KSiznWZ?si=98a1d65d01c445c5
god bless
i had a french, russian, mandopop, kpop, jpop phase now its time for arabic. salam malaykum
auto
damn
its really auto?
lowkey I might be desperate enough to try a 2 hours leetcode hard
not gonna pass the interview anyway
istg tho if they ask testing intern lc hard qs then they should get blacklisted
blacklist all big tech
Anyone interning at Wayfair this summer? Would connect before I start work lmao
Yeah lol
congrats on zon
congrats on zon
congrats on zon
who is hiring new grad rn?
applied for swe got oa for test intern maybe its not auto 
Auto

is snowflake oa hard as shit again?
no one
understandable, have a nice day
What are some projects u guys been working on?
Rave LinkedIn connector
You can find cs majors who like to rave and have LinkedIn
Anyone wanna join me on a project to make a better youtube. Like we usi apis to get videos of trending creators with large amount of subscribers etc and recommending what people love and not just echo chamber shitty algorthims youtube has nowadays
Take it and lmk
has anyone done snowflake SWE intern OA?
Are you authorized to work in the US?
Will you now or in the future require sponsorship for employment visa status?
As only a Canadian citizen, would do you say to these?
Check pinned
tyyy
For the first one you say NO
And second question you say YES
Oh bruh I just realized someone answered it
It’s crazy. I was really hopeful there would be a few new grad jobs popping up in the new year but no it’s not gonna happen. Crazy to think that this application season was way worse for new grads than last year’s which was already the worst in recent years
its not like americans have really seen many new grad openings either
wdym
a lot is hiring in USA
yeah but not as bad as in canada
Agreeable
its def worse than last year but not as worse as in Canada
Ye def
ye
What does it mean?
no job
where?
lol
Is there any Winter internships left
Winternships
In Canada or Us I am personally open to both…
jover
How so
winter interns started this week 💀
late*
There should be at least a couple options
That start like mid to late January right
jan 2nd was the first day
No name startups may hire
do any job to pay the bills
I need to improve social skill
Will working fast food help
Let me know guys I am trapping to map out the next four months of my life
Since winternship is out the window….
I have school during the day. Are there some retail jobs that have shifts after 6 ish? Like maybe 6-8 for example
Perhaps 6-10
Does fast food have shorter shifts?
I just want like a couple hours each week
honestly you gotta check your local places
become a lube tech if youre good with hands
What’s your experience working outside tech?
anyone did snowflake oa? Is it java or c++ only like usual?
don't need that much social skill to land internships
Is it worth slaving away for 15/hour or is it better to leetcode
do what ever u can to pay the bills
Does bar pay a lot better
Than fast food or Starbucks
I imagine tips are decent
Wait what
I have no money to pay bills
So I want to be better socially and pay bills
Anyone heard from workday, did they send any vo?
This meme reminds me of my crypto bros 😂😂
I'm wonderig if it's better to work at like Chapters or Starbucks
Or maybe like McDonalds if that's decent as long as I don't have to mop the floor....
I really don't like cleaning up trash
Do you usually get a choice of your chores?
in all honesty, even though the market is bad rn, isn't it still good relative to other majors/careers?
There's also PopEyes which isn't as bad rep as PopEyes
Like I can probably be say I worked for PopEyes as a Software Engineer Intern even if I'm the cashier
Because I would be managing assets
Etc.
Managed cloud-based resources and provisioned assets; interfaced directly with end users (popeyes customers).
Scrum master (managed daily tasks using Agile / Jira board) to delegate tasks behind the counter to expedite chicken delivery
Yielded 48% increase in sales.
anyone moving to vancouver for the summer?
Bruh get any min wage job. Work at warehouse, pretty easy to get
use the funds to buy rave tickets
Nah nah first prioritize bills
personally id just get a payday loan for 10k and have that and work the job to pay for rave tickets
actually i get most of my rave tickets for da free cause i know da djs
i prefer leveraging my vast real estate portfolio
But is it better to get a tech support role
Or just find any job
Like do you print off your resume and submit it in person
Yes ^^^you print it and go in every place you can in person
i sent 1500 apps online for developer. Got no responses, needed to pay bills so i applied to over 300 online min wage, got nothing. Then i went in person to over 80 places. got nothing.
be prepared to grind
i only got a job as a dev cause i started working on my connections and got it through that
and i have red lobster host experience and other resturant experience and still got nothing for min wage jobs.....
If you didn’t from at least 1 place after 1500 that’s just your resume bro
nah i had senior devs review my resume and i have 2 internships as well
this is very true, got a friend making 130k base working as tech sales and he gets to travel and work whenever
I got a question for all yall new grads that still dont have a job yet. Do you guys know oop? Like if i told you can you make a Person class for a bank could you do it without googling solution? Could you access apis in ur code and use it (weather api/open ai for examples) and do something with them? Do you understand some sql and db relationships? If i told you to design a table could you do it or query a table?
some peeps really be jealous
omg this just happened 30 mins ago. I was walking to my car after getting groceries and saw a homeless guy covered in his own feces and piss. What caught my eye was that he had AndreFullStacknow written on his shirt. I walked up to him and asked are you really AndreFullStacknow from cscareers.dev, and he started shaking uncontrollably and yelling "rave rave rave". I was gonna give him some money but that just freaked me out so i left. Am i the asshole? what do you guys think?
Nta your guy your rules
ngl I feel like the reason you keep talking is cause you want to make yourself feel self important at this point
cause you dislike the position you're in despite what you try and tell yourself
you're trying to drink the koolaid yourself
Nah im really curious actually, cause i was there at some point too
actually really liking it now, really hated in in the beginning and shit like wanted to quit but doing ai tasks so imr eally interested
yea i am
i know a lot people in my graduating class who didnt know the first question
Oop mid anyway
Bro thinks he gonna interview us
If u cant answer those things get grinding like ur back at school
because some schools an just schools in general dont teach you real world development
I got a question for all yall new grads that still dont have a job yet. Do you guys know oop? Like if i told you can you make a Person class for a bank could you do it without googling solution? Could you access apis in ur code and use it (weather api/open ai for examples) and do something with them? Do you understand some sql and db relationships? If i told you to design a table could you do it or query a table?
bro there is no way you're real

man whatever if u guys wanna be hating but im assuming you dont know that shit
which means get on that shit
I got a question for all yall new grads that still dont have a job yet. Do you guys know oop? Like if i told you can you make a Person class for a bank could you do it without googling solution? Could you access apis in ur code and use it (weather api/open ai for examples) and do something with them? Do you understand some sql and db relationships? If i told you to design a table could you do it or query a table?
So for OOP, that’s a cs fundamentals class
U forgot get 10k in payday loans and print resume to bring to min wage jobs
Most people have called APIs that’s also like a first year cs thing
Sql too
Db stuff honestly I forgot all the shit about referential integrity and those random db schema crap
With the crow feet bs
Like one to many LmAO idr
How to query a table well yes basic queries ppl should know
Random complex joins and shit u can jsut google
Like no point in memorizing anything when there’s google stack overflow and any LLM
Like ChatGPT at ur disposal
Thing about cs is it’s not about knowing these things from mem
It’s about how well u can google and implement the results
Like yes it’s cool to know regex and a bunch of shit like complex git commands sed grep awk shit but it’s not gonna be that useful
Google is ur friend
for sure but there are some that completely dont know if any logic
thats what im saying ya know but peeps dont know the most basic to even know what to google
swear to god
guess its just york students im referring to

Bro do you even know peepshit farmdinkle
Do yall use GitHub copilot
and algoma/conestega
Copilot legit changed the course of my life
really?
i prefer chatgpt
but is it better?
It has autocomplete and basically takes into account context from ur whole codebase
It’s rly useful
Makes coding repetitive stuff way fasted
and it doesnt use the codebase for training?
I use it all the time, it does the handy work for u and for stuff i need to look into more i do myself
basically my code goes from junior to senior level with a little amount of prompts
define senior level code
usually senior level means that you are doing something core to the product, not necessarily ""code quality""
that is a very subjective term
meaning it follows best coding practices
and you learn super quick from it cause u read and understand the code and makes you a better programmer
this is a very subjective term as well
and honestly its just like a better google. Like not even using it for creating code, it can match ur exact search while sometimes hard to find on google
there's no absolute correct way to write code
modular, follows design principle (factory, singleton, etc)
which is usually learned through just experience which may take time
some ppl consider singleton an anti pattern
i disagree, i consider factory an anti pattern
i prefer builder in all cases that factory can be implemented
hence why i mean it's subjective
builder is mostly used
they're both technically "good" depending on who you ask
but yea in general it can make major improvents
builder + strategy > factory is my personal preference
in terms of like time it takes to complete code, makes it more effiecnt, shit u would miss and even seniors would miss
basically my point is that you can't necessarily say that chatgpt helps you write "senior level code" because the idea of being senior code is very much company dependent
code style at google is very different from code style at amzn
for instance
break up initialization into steps
that can be chained
Oh ok
I got a question for all yall new grads that still dont have a job yet. Do you guys know oop? Like if i told you can you make a Person class for a bank could you do it without googling solution? Could you access apis in ur code and use it (weather api/open ai for examples) and do something with them? Do you understand some sql and db relationships? If i told you to design a table could you do it or query a table?
shitpost?
I understand, my point was it helps you make ur code use best practices, something it takes a while for a junior to learn
I got a question for all yall new grads that still dont have a job yet. Do you guys know oop? Like if i told you can you make a Person class for a bank could you do it without googling solution? Could you access apis in ur code and use it (weather api/open ai for examples) and do something with them? Do you understand some sql and db relationships? If i told you to design a table could you do it or query a table?
Someone asked this already 🤦♂️
Ye lmao
I got a question for all yall new grads that still dont have a job yet. Do you guys know oop? Like if i told you can you make a Person class for a bank could you do it without googling solution? Could you access apis in ur code and use it (weather api/open ai for examples) and do something with them? Do you understand some sql and db relationships? If i told you to design a table could you do it or query a table?
I got a question for all yall new grads that still dont have a job yet. Do you guys know oop? Like if i told you can you make a Person class for a bank could you do it without googling solution? Could you access apis in ur code and use it (weather api/open ai for examples) and do something with them? Do you understand some sql and db relationships? If i told you to design a table could you do it or query a table?
Don’t need to ask a duplicate
It’s just redundant
I got a question for all yall new grads that still dont have a job yet. Do you guys know oop? Like if i told you can you make a Person class for a bank could you do it without googling solution? Could you access apis in ur code and use it (weather api/open ai for examples) and do something with them? Do you understand some sql and db relationships? If i told you to design a table could you do it or query a table?
Not needed

I don’t think u realize that there is a scroll bar
U are able to look up
For the answers
lol
@quartz ridge I got a question for all yall new grads that still dont have a job yet. Do you guys know oop? Like if i told you can you make a Person class for a bank could you do it without googling solution? Could you access apis in ur code and use it (weather api/open ai for examples) and do something with them? Do you understand some sql and db relationships? If i told you to design a table could you do it or query a table?
ayo this is too real 
I got a question for all yall new grads that still dont have a job yet. Do you guys know oop? Like if i told you can you make a Person class for a bank could you do it without googling solution? Could you access apis in ur code and use it (weather api/open ai for examples) and do something with them? Do you understand some sql and db relationships? If i told you to design a table could you do it or query a table?
me 🙂
also for goodness sakes why tf are you guys applying to fanng, microsoft etc. I bet most of yall barely know oop. Please for goodness sakes apply to smaller to mid companies and even local ones
yeah i need all of you to not apply to faang or microsoft. i am very qualified and keep getting overlooked because of you guys. please stop applying to give me a chance
SEE u get it
u can connect anywhere
but yea i mostly connect with peeps at raves and parties lol a lot of tech peeps go there and ive met this ceo who sold his company for 100 mil the other week at a rave lol he might hire me for his next company for lead ai engineer
Not needed
I don’t think u realize that there is a scroll bar
SEE u get it
u can connect anywhere
but yea i mostly connect with peeps at raves and parties lol a lot of tech peeps go there and ive met this ceo who sold his company for 100 mil the other week at a rave lol he might hire me for his next company for lead ai engineer
@fossil field got their offer by networking with ceos at raves
hahah yea i never had to do tech meetups but i wouldve if i didnt get a job
but yea raving helped me tremendisly and i built so many friendships and connections
and i know most people are not social and spend all day in their rooms gaming or jerking off
and i want peeps to build confidence cause thats how you get the best jobs and meet people who can make a difference in their lives
bro is a copy pasta factory
ive been connecting at raves and got a job lined up after 6 months here with substantial pay increase lol like 250k+
ive been connecting at raves and got a job lined up after 6 months here with substantial pay increase lol like 250k+
Who is this cracker
SEE u get it
u can connect anywhere
but yea i mostly connect with peeps at raves and parties lol a lot of tech peeps go there and ive met this ceo who sold his company for 100 mil the other week at a rave lol he might hire me for his next company for lead ai engineer

Gaddam
Who is adnrefullstack
who you?
Can he review my rizzume?
Ur dad
Plateau
HAHAHA
I got a question for all yall new grads that still dont have a job yet. Do you guys know oop? Like if i told you can you make a Person class for a bank could you do it without googling solution? Could you access apis in ur code and use it (weather api/open ai for examples) and do something with them? Do you understand some sql and db relationships? If i told you to design a table could you do it or query a table?
anybody rescheduled amazon interviews how soon do you hear back?
What ur xp?
2nd yr
Been waiting since September
Never heard back
😭
damn yall mad
Bruh
mostly jobless, but mad

💀
assume you'll get the earliest spot you picked
bro's targetting me 
Chicken nugget engineer
rip, yall think we'll be getting remote jobs for us companies with that us pay in our futures?
u didnt reply to my msg king
🤣
This is not helpful. Please stop.
Do not send this message to me again.
@fossil field how much mdg pay
You are promoting unhealth….
You will not send this again or I will request juda to view u….
where is my offer?
This isn’t health convo……
ok big bro! I am very sorry. I am new here. can u please tell me the rules? I dont want to be banned
This one is funny… unlike your copy pasta
u must be in high school
At least find a good copy pasta….
This isn’t health convo……
You will listen to rules
You will not send this again or I will request juda to view u….
You are promoting unhealth….
xD
i only listen to u senpai
oh my bad i thought u asked the other guy, yea i gotchu send in dm
bad
- Leetcode 2. Neetcode 3. Profit
that’s what I expected from u sir
are u a pedo?
I will send Juda to come view u..
He has said this spelling incorrectly
Mario juda
It was auto correct lmao

did u call everyone here broke
Should I work at Starbucks or as IT analyst
What are you even saying lmao
I need to make a decision for winter
or did u jsut finish watching Great Gatsby
This is unhealth…
Please stop promoting this
will send Juda..view u..
Just need to see the correct result for winter term
Is a choice between bar server, or analyst role
Maybe will consider some thing like Starbuck
No job for winter.
Summer has hope
Market will go up tick in job
Base on some stats
IT analyst is not good compare to dev tho
2024 should go to moon…. Base on trajectory in LinkedIn posting
2025 will be good year too.
I make a prediction now
You all see result later….
Come back and see that I have good vision of market…
Anyone do the Snowflake OA yet?
not wasting my time with that shit
Lmao why not
its 3 LC hards
Just cheat
yeah try cheating
Lmao
and if u succeed try making it past next rounds
if u got cracked friends. sure...
^^
give jerb
Chatgpt?
Bro is doomed
Chatgpt?
doesnt help with hards bro
The thing is
Joever for you
gpt not gunna help @turbid mesa
Leetcode is just a cope
Oh word
its over for bro
bro ur rambling
Leetcode will not help…
4 wat
go make me a chai tea latte.
I will send Juda…
will send..
ofc not, but the ones on snowflake OA are
ye snowflake won't hav easy problems
Well
Hey man fake it till you make it
Might as well try
Snowflake you have to pass resume screen too
People get 3/3 and get rejected
sauce wayfair recruiter email
U will only use it to pass algorithm
At big tech
You will rarely see this like heap
Map etc
On job
Unless u are working as an algo dev
Stop promoting lies
At HRT
Man snowflake the only OA I’ve gotten so far 😭
I will tell Juda
Otherwise …. Not very likely
i work at google kitchener and i got asked lc easy
It is unlikely to have this use case for on job
its auto
why’s it auto and 3 LC hards
lol
its 3 lc hards cuz its auto
Ik im sad
Tuning and find bottleneck
i work at jane street and i only got asked 1 sum
It is useful to squeeze performance out of systems
Are all of you guys looking for 2024 summer internship?
how to do 1sum?
But usually there is no point in min max
💀
ye
segment tree
yes there is lol
Most programmers can get plat usaco
leetcode costs u jobs
what is tree?
incoming @googleKitchener
Beyond usaco plat there is not much
and no they cant
if they could lc would not be a filter
Usaco plat is achievable for most ppl
Most ppl can do lc med
Lc hard is hard for most average ppl
U need to be gifted..
...
usaco plat is much harder than lc hards.
bro its over for you
what is lc?
fr
It’s not over. I am having a startup job
still over
what is over?
ur startup pay u in equity?
bro gonna work at radicalX
unpaid
ok this guys trolling
anyone work at gaotek?
but good fucking job LOL
did blud go to MIT or smth
With cloud specialism
GAO Tek
4.3
375 Google reviews
Electronics manufacturer in Pickering, Ontario
Address: 215, 1885 Clements Rd Unit 218, Pickering, ON L1W 3V4
Hours:
Closed ⋅ Opens 8 a.m. Wed
Phone: (289) 660-5590
Province: Ontario
Suggest an edit · Own this business?
what is business?
Yes it’s this one
bruh
It is a junior startup
unpaid
Unpaid
what is startup?
why do unpaid
Yes it’s unpaid
3 round of interviews for unpaid
r u crazy
It’s backend experience
R U CRAZY 😠
No look it has modern tech stack
Using react
Graph ql
Postgre DB
Lot of skill acquisition
what
hashmap is like the most common thing on the job
what is your job?
i bet you am jobless e. mad
I don’t have much experience. What I mean is two pointer, two sum…
i worked as a backend developer, and an algo developer
You will not use these technique for job
blob fish is having a psychotic break
ignore
Most pattern for leetcode will not be used
true kind of
Map yes maybe it will have a use case
i work as programmer for developer inc
But scope will be limited for most pattern
but it helps you think about problems in a different way
DFS will never be used except you are traverse folder maybe
leetcode made me a better programmer
Many ppl can’t do leetcode?
can you grind it out, can yo learn
I don’t really get it…
I can't leetcode
to grind it out
But there are so many leetcode monkey. God tier leetcode but average or subpar dev….
ryan
I'm dumb af
The mapping is broken.
Hi
whats up ryan
nah LC is just legalized IQ test thats standardized after companies ran after FAANG business model. Lets not reverse engineer why it exists shall we
dox
Carleton people?
excited for 3005?
Leetcode monkey so common!!! Bloomberg is full of lc monkey…
Easy
yes its liteyear pookie
EASY EASY EASY
Ahhhh
its the SAT of SWE
Well we're gonna easily finish this shit so
did u see that databases project thing
I'm going to a conference
Eh it's not that bad
I have other things to do
QA
starlust u got some unorthodox takes
although i half agree
All QA can be done using pure cahtgpt
ChatGPT can write any unit test or integration load test
respect button
It will be a replaced field….
QA is hard in adifferent way
QA is dead.
QA isnt just writing tests bro
QA is dead.
It is main part of it
I want to do SRE 
working with a good QA is god send
bruhhh
QA is dead.
no way bro said carrot on a stick
SDE is dead.
I have never work with one only other dev
ok bro

field is dead.
then why are u saying this
fiend 😄
The entire world is AI
no experience but have opinions
wtf u want me ide?
is crazy
how's zon treating u?
lc is the test to see if u hav conviction to do boring shit for a long time
My impression of QA is test writing monkey
Like test suite after test suite
With no real purpose
yeah thats the wrong impression
Just take dev code and test it
I did QA, that's not how it is
^
sauce referral @safe light
you dont write much code as a QA
I’m curious in it
I also did the dev ops side of things too
QA is different everywhere
graduating in may
but in general its making sure things work the way they should, writing suites is part of it, but also doing blackbox testing, whitebox, etc
devs are bad at making sure things always work
bro said black box testing and white box testing like thats not the only two types of testing
Most of this is writing test tho right
thats why i said etc
brother
there are two integters between 0 and 1
ohh
QA is very important at scale for complex systems
what other types of testing are there
e2e, regression, smoke, data layers
So it’s just unit integration load end to end load etc
So it’s basically just writing tests
theyre just black box testing
Where is here?
What’s data layer test
You actually have to understand the system to test it, unlike a code monkey
Isn’t regression just check backward compatible

reg test doesnt mean anything
testing the interactions between ur data layer

Hm I don’t rly get data layer concept
What’s code aware
Like do u understand code?
u can black box and test implementation tho im pretty sure
how to do that 🤔
it depends what u mean about implementation
like the implementation of a particular part of the system
yeah i guess theres a gray boundary area
like how this function or whatever
the terms are more for guidance anyway arent they
noo they just press button that says run tests
LOL
devs should be writing unit tests
as long as the tests are less complex than the code they write
I use gpt
because if theyre the same complexity, than whats to say you write the test right in the first place
To write all my twst
lol
Never have I written any test
you have to use your brain, think of edge cases and stuff
Is it okay to write all code using chatgpt
fuck no
LOL
how are u gonna do it if u dont have access to GPT
or if GPT cant help you
GPT can always help
like at a job where gpt is forbidden
It has terabyte data
there are novel problems, or uncommon problems
It has reasoning capability
that it doesnt give the right answer to do
Everything is solved w existing patterns
it does not have reasoning.
It does
explain
You provide it something that is not in training data it can decide to search web
That is reasoning
It has multiple knowledge source
that is not reasoning. it is searching
Original training data, scrape web
Its reasoning when to leverage diff tools
That is reasoning
okay so is an if statement reasoning?
It’s not its semantic based
It’s not going to use if else to parse ur natural language query
It’s using embedding and reasoning
and uses statistics to generate the next possible tokens
Or are you just parsing them to form understanding
Understanding is an ambiguous term in itself
Its uses semantic search with vector store
And pulling relevant data from its trained corpus
Basically knn
okay i see your point, but i dont use statistics to predict the best word to use next based on your query
how so?
It’s hard to truly understand these lol
We’re using previous language constructs
To construct our sentences
There are commonly used patterns in language that fit our conversational context
And use case
We are incrementally building a sentence baed on tokens that have close association and belong together to form cohesive thought
okay sure, but thats not natural language processing is it
i dont incrementally build my sentences the same way GPT does tho.
i have thoughts and choose words based on those thoughts
im not understanding the sentence, can you rephrase
language is just that, a language to communicate ideas generated by the electric meat in my head
im not incrementally creating my sentences token by token
i do choose the words incrementally sure, but not the thought itself
But are you not leveraging common constructs to build out your sentences
Thoughts are collections of tokens
Patterns of tokens commonly found together to communicate some thought
Kind of like motifs for certain thoughts
kk
Maybe your thoughts are not as granular as individual tokens being statistically pieced together. It could be a layer of abstraction on top of this.
You might just operate at a high level of abstraction than a GPT
i think we have come into an impass. i believe thought is constructed differently in the human brain than gpt because my thoughts are ideas that i translate into an understandable form, while gpt incrementally creates those "thoughts"
If it incrementally creates the thought it’s stil creating thought
You’re operating at a higher level of abstraction
i said it was "thoughts" because thats just not what it is in my opinion
What is a thought tho?
this is a philosophical debate
Isn’t it just a concept or idea
it has no understanding of that concept or idea
Like a string of tokens is a thought no? Or does a thought have to entail something specific
like why can't (or couldn't) gpt count the amount of letters in a word
Is it just an intelligible string of tokens with somewhat parseable meaning
or when i tell it to make something a little longer like a paragraph or two, it spits out so much?
its not thinking about a paragraph is
thoughts can be unintelligible
What do you mean
like if im asking it to write something for me
and its shorter than i would like
i say either can you add another paragraph or can you make it this many words
it cant do that
it makes it much longer
Well it’s not a mind reader. If you specify terms that are open to interpretation with qualifiers like “little” or “slightly”
It’s not going to know what that entails
a human would reason through that tho
If you write “within 250 words”
It’ll give a better approximation
Well a little longer in what context. I feel like if you provided more context it would perform better
forget the a little longger
if i say add another paragraph it just doesnt know
it makes it twice as long
there may be modules in chatgpt that can do that, but thats not what gpt is
like before, asking it math questions
it couldnt
because it cant do math by itself
is it AI that does that?
sure sure but is it using reason to do that?
woohoo
well that was the point of the convo
to listen to music
yeah you dont
is it just that though?
it seems possible
do you think in audio?
doubt
some people dont
i dont think in text or audio
i have a voice
but thats just my brain translating my thoughts into something parsable
those arent my thoughts tho
if it could transform it into audio surely it could transform it into text
thats music though
like thats not thoughts
what is AI doing here
i really dont see any mention of AI in the paper is what im saying
its been done tho
steven hawking
stephen?
wait im dome
LOL
im actually braindead
@safe light https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/brain-decoder-turns-person-s-brain-activity-into-words
yeah thats really sick as fuck
but anyways you were responding to a conversation about GPT having reasoning
thats why i asked about reasoning
i really think it doesnt
yeah thatll be amazing
i am scared of the negative use cases of ai tho
if u work at a company working on a product that is being made in partnership with microsoft, will it increase your chances of landing MS significantly?
^^
I don't think so, Microsoft has their fingers in many pies
i wish their finger was in my pie
im planning on taking the summer to personalize my resume very specifically for each FAANG+
im gonna create like 8 versions based on other people's resumes who've gotten in, thoughts?
prob a waste of time
also it shouldnt take the summer regardless
most faangs have very general requirements so idk how you'd do that
did anyone get into treehacks
i dont have a passport but i need one now
If u have a flight booked u can expedite renewing ur passport
Another mog classic???
probably a better idea to focus on what not to do than what to do
since the requirements are so general
I think if you pay extra you can get the government to expedite it to 2 days instead of 3 weeks
Yes
I have to do that
What do y’all do to prepare for behavioural?
come up with a bunch of stories
If you have that then you won
Didn’t work well so far 😬
why not
Wait, do You mean before or during the interview?
Before
Get your story straight
Or live more experiences so you don't need to make something up
make it up also if u dont have good stories
Not rlly
I don't have us cit and i still get job reach outs
do you guys also apply for non grad roles, if so did you get any OAs?
die lit
Hi guys, just wondering how prestigious is Kinaxis
Is it a good step towards FAANG?
better than unemployment
No imo
Autodesk is prob better