canada

[azure junco]

my job title history cucked me out of databricks internship....

[lapis tide]

iirc its proctored

i had to know segment trees for q4

[lucid loom]

u can still gpt lol

[lapis tide]

i did not and still do not know segment trees

[drifting shore]

0 response rate with 840/850

[lucid loom]

have the homie next to u

[drifting shore]

thats fked up

[azure junco]

ghosted

[lucid loom]

read out the question as if ur tryna understand it

they type it

and tilt the screen to u

w the solution

done and dusted

[lapis tide]

guys lets start a recruiting platform that matches candidates to employers

kinda like tinder for jobs

[azure junco]

i love ziprecruiter

[lucid loom]

msft is US no?

[drifting shore]

[zenith eagle]

no canada

[azure junco]

congrats on match

[zenith eagle]

bro how do u get 600 ive always come close

one q always fucks me up

[azure junco]

practice

and luck

[drifting shore]

rng

[lapis tide]

ok mom

[azure junco]

it's mostly luck

[lucid loom]

rng tbh

[azure junco]

if you get unlucky for q3 it's joever

[zenith eagle]

always q3

[lucid loom]

600 is easy if u just dont get cucked on q3

yeah legit

[drifting shore]

q3 still implementation heavy?

[lucid loom]

last time i got an lc easy for q3

[lapis tide]

what if i have to know segment trees for q4

[lucid loom]

needless to say

[azure junco]

if q3 is string manipulation you should start praying

[zenith eagle]

annoyinh string manip / text justifcation or siome annoying matrix problem

[azure junco]

implement chess

in 10 mins

[drifting shore]

my q3 was 50% string manipulation

[azure junco]

or else no job

[drifting shore]

and im on cpp

[lapis tide]

stop using cpp

[azure junco]

imagine using cpp

cpp won't get you paid

[lapis tide]

pro tip if your shit doesnt pass python

rewrite it in typescript

[azure junco]

💀

[zenith eagle]

wut

[lapis tide]

usually gives an extra test case

[zenith eagle]

oh reLLY/?'

[lapis tide]

yeah cuz its like a second extra

[azure junco]

i know from my ccc days that the strat was write it in python then translate it to cpp so your code runs faster

[zenith eagle]

xdoubt about ts

ah fuck ccc

makes me feel old

[lapis tide]

go ahead and doubt

it works

[zenith eagle]

holy fuck hs was half a decade ago

[lapis tide]

10 -> 12 passing

[zenith eagle]

im gonna go kms

[lucid loom]

js is whack

front end cringe

[azure junco]

i am on track to graduate in 4 years

[lucid loom]

mips or die

[lapis tide]

ok mr product

[lucid loom]

im not in product

was not*

[azure junco]

bro is writing webassembly instead of doing js

[lapis tide]

want to

[zenith eagle]

bro i just got depression realizing hs was half a fucking decade ago

ngmi

[lucid loom]

front end cringe

[zenith eagle]

fuck 5 year degrees

[lucid loom]

FUCKING FR

[lapis tide]

embrace frontend

[lucid loom]

dude

4 years ago

i feek so old

feel

[azure junco]

knowing only backend + no frontend is cringe

[lucid loom]

i miss HS so bad

[zenith eagle]

why the fuck does a honour program take 5 years uoft

[lucid loom]

it doesnt

[azure junco]

it doesn't

[zenith eagle]

eith internships it does

[azure junco]

i'm doing honours at uoft and i plan to graduate in 4

[lapis tide]

it does if youre costanza maxxing

[lucid loom]

im bsc honors and 4 years

i have 2 internships too

[azure junco]

i have 3

[lucid loom]

just dont do PEY

[azure junco]

just drop asip

[lapis tide]

i have 9

[zenith eagle]

plus mfers during covid cut coruses

[azure junco]

yeah

[zenith eagle]

i did 5 so that's why

i'm stupid

[lucid loom]

PEY is cringe

[zenith eagle]

should've graduted early after 2

[lucid loom]

so cringe

[lapis tide]

lmao

[azure junco]

i was gonna take a year later to graduate

[lapis tide]

why the fuck does a honour program take 5 years uoft

[azure junco]

but i am hopefully on track for ft return offer

[zenith eagle]

where

[lapis tide]

congrats on ikea

[azure junco]

otherwise i'm gonna delay if no return

[kind hazel]

smart

[zenith eagle]

idk utsc withc oop its 5

[lapis tide]

fake uoft

[azure junco]

do you plan to continue semiconducting for full tim

[azure junco]

i forgot utsc existed until just now

sorry the world revolves around toronto

[lapis tide]

i plan on conducting fully

[zenith eagle]

regretted utsc should've gone to st george

oh well

[lucid loom]

real

[azure junco]

i was gonna go to utsc

[lucid loom]

regretted uoft shouldve gone western

[lapis tide]

🤣

[azure junco]

then my mom made me talk to uoft students whose moms she was friends with on facebook

[zenith eagle]

same

[azure junco]

and every single one of them told me under no circumstances go to utsc

one of them told me about how his entire first 2 years was just trying to transfer to utsg

[lapis tide]

meet more people

[lucid loom]

no

[azure junco]

i'm pretty happy

[lucid loom]

im happy

not ecstatic

[lapis tide]

fr

[lucid loom]

and by defulat im much happier

[timid tartan]

What's this utsc slander

[lapis tide]

gloomer takeover of #canada

[timid tartan]

Tf

[lapis tide]

shut up doomer

[timid tartan]

[azure junco]

most people i've met at uoft are relatively happy

[lapis tide]

maybe its utsc people arent happy

[timid tartan]

Huh why

[azure junco]

obvs not rn it's exam season

but overall

[lapis tide]

name 1 happy utsc person

[lucid loom]

did anyone get nvidia oa for CA NG

or is it just for brand purposes

[azure junco]

coop program wasn't worth it apparently, and that utsg is better education

[lapis tide]

congrats on semiconducting

[azure junco]

and also living in toronto

opens up more opportunties than scarb

[timid tartan]

Yea co-op job board is bad I agree

[lapis tide]

didnt matter to mr 90x faang

[timid tartan]

I've been at downtown toronto since September 2023 for the very first time and I actually hate it lmao

[azure junco]

i would give up my kidney for an offer at apple

[timid tartan]

To each of their own I guess

[lucid loom]

downtown toronto is epic

[lapis tide]

yeah cuz you save 90% of your income bro

[lucid loom]

apart from winter

[azure junco]

i think it depends which part of downtown you live in

[timid tartan]

LMAO not only that

[azure junco]

what's your like

[timid tartan]

Nah I hate downtown bcs it's crowded

[lapis tide]

ok

[lucid loom]

cant save money

[azure junco]

general area

[lapis tide]

95% of your income

[lucid loom]

cause money is fake

[azure junco]

ok mr farmer man

[timid tartan]

Scarborough is empty, which is great (for me)

[lucid loom]

money not spent isnt worth a dime

[azure junco]

work at faang in collingwood

i plan to spend 95% on my income on food

[timid tartan]

👀

[lucid loom]

nah

[timid tartan]

I mean scarb is still expensive but at least not as expensive as dt

[lucid loom]

spend it on alcohol

and strippers

like a good lad

[azure junco]

what's the average rent in scarb

[lucid loom]

5 dollars per decade

[azure junco]

too expensive for me

[timid tartan]

I think 800 ish now?

[lapis tide]

the fuck

[azure junco]

damn that's crazy

[lucid loom]

looooooool

[timid tartan]

Yeah

[lucid loom]

what a shithole

[azure junco]

but you also need to live in scarborough

[lapis tide]

fr

[timid tartan]

It's great

Lmao I love scarb more than dt

[lapis tide]

shut up doomer

[azure junco]

you can't get around on public transport

[lucid loom]

cringe

[azure junco]

the infrastructure is so underfunded

[timid tartan]

Uh what

[lapis tide]

ill fund your infrastructure

[azure junco]

wait 30 mins for a bus

[timid tartan]

Idk I always go everywhere by a bus

It's fine

I don't feel like dt transport is any better

[azure junco]

please analyze the ttc using infrasturctural inversion

[lapis tide]

i think the most important thing is for us to rename dundas station

[timid tartan]

TTC in general is just not great lmfao

Yet the cost keeps going up

[zenith eagle]

ttc is great imho

[zenith eagle]

istfg

also look at the guy who petitioned for teh rename

i swear they want meaningless surface level changes

[timid tartan]

Depends on the comparison

[zenith eagle]

ttc is great when it is convenient to get to places that have good density

but if u wanna go to the burbs or between the brubs

[timid tartan]

It's not even about that

[azure junco]

isn't the ttc like the best transit system in north america or something

which is kind of sad

but ya know

[zenith eagle]

sad as it is yeah it's the best imho

cali transit :omegakek>

[timid tartan]

Like you know how TTC always has random shit happening on any days lmao

[timid tartan]

Huhhhh????

[zenith eagle]

i feel lik that's overblown imho

[timid tartan]

Isn't skytrain much better lmao

[azure junco]

no i think like according to experts it's the best

[timid tartan]

Wtf

[azure junco]

ok wait nevermind

i lied

i googled it

#1 is nyc

[timid tartan]

Idk I've had a much better exp with skytrain than with ttc

[azure junco]

yeah idk i think it would be better if the ceos of the ttc and metrolinx actually like did their jobs or something idk that would be crazy tho haha

[timid tartan]

Nah bruh it's not overblown I remember I was stuck at a station for like more than 30 mins

Then after that I had to wait for a shuttle bus that took a decade to come

[lapis tide]

walk

[azure junco]

to be honest atp i might bikeshare to work in the summer

it's more reliable than the ttc

some days it would take me like 30-40 mins to get to the office even though the trip is supposed to be 20 min

[timid tartan]

Ngl I've been thinking about that lol

[azure junco]

bikeshare is just a flat 15 mins no matter what

[timid tartan]

Feels like bike is often much faster than ttc

[azure junco]

only issue is toronto is not flat

[timid tartan]

Unless you wanna travel somewhere really damn far

[azure junco]

i ain't biking uphill

[timid tartan]

[azure junco]

i can bike to work but i def won't be biking back

[drifting shore]

Ayo wat

[azure junco]

delays at union in the mornings 😁

one time there was a stabbing at union at like 8:30am

on like a tuesday

[drifting shore]

biking is faster than the transit system might do that too

[boreal sentinel]

SANKOFEE SQUARE

BAD COFFEE SQUARE

[lunar sandal]

?

fr?

im tryna land one 😦

i think ur a 4th+ year is why ur saying that

[azure junco]

i've heard that the companies that tend to hire peys aren't as high quality as the companies who only hire interns

it's usually smaller local companies or older companies

nut offer your thoughts you have more knowledge than me

[lunar sandal]

in this market would u dare to be picky tho lmao

[lapis tide]

ok bro

[azure junco]

not you pookie your employer is high quality

[lunar sandal]

U GOT ONE??

[lapis tide]

thank you love

[lunar sandal]

bro its over for me.

[lapis tide]

im at pey bro

[lunar sandal]

oh

oh ur alr done 3rd year

[lapis tide]

yees

[lunar sandal]

i c i c

[lapis tide]

and no i dont got one yet

[lunar sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-minion-gif-24225602

[lucid loom]

No

I’m a 4th year

Graduating in 4 years

PEY is just cringe

PEY is just bad

U get paid way less

Take longer to graduate

U completely forget how ur gonna study when u get back

[lunar sandal]

im 3rd year, 1 prev internship

[lucid loom]

And the companies r usually shittier

[lunar sandal]

i think its better to grad later tbh

[lucid loom]

I would only ever do the 1 year thing if it was 3x4 or 4x4

And so many of the smaller companies abuse PEY

They don’t wna hire and pay FT

So they just get u to work for a year and fuck off

[lucid loom]

Controversial opinion but atp market looks RNG as fuck

I don’t even know if having more experience would make a difference

[rugged spade]

in this market rn yes :p

[lucid loom]

In this market tho yes it’s worth delaying

Though that depends on how u think the market trend is gonna be

[rugged spade]

did u do pey

[lucid loom]

Nope

[rugged spade]

hoping for a speedy recovery

[lucid loom]

But ur assuming 2025 will be better

I’m reluctant to believe so

[rugged spade]

2026 it is then

[lunar sandal]

2027 or bust

[rugged spade]

a lot of my friends are on pey

so its chill

🥹

[lucid loom]

I don’t think the market will reach how it was ever

And it would be stupid if it did

Cause it’s just gonna happen all over again

Companies invested into hires on absolutely non existent funds

Tf they thought was gonna happen

[rugged spade]

the hope is they figure it out

and with gaining more experience, better chance after

[lucid loom]

Yeah and I’m all for figuring things out

But treating employees as a dive roll is just fucked

This is people’s lives

Not ur growth expansion experiment

[rugged spade]

yeah, its rlly fked

putting many into panic lol

[lucid loom]

Do the books correctly and be safe even if not conservative

[rugged spade]

i think its was all about the hype

lowkey seeing that with AI rn

[lunar sandal]

giv job

[lucid loom]

100%

It’s so funny fr

But it just legit shows u how companies be

You’re nothing more than fodder

And I don’t blame them for that matter

We live in a capitalist world

It’s just dumb that it keeps happening and no one actually tries to do it properly

[rugged spade]

yeah theres only a few AI companies i would trust to do it properly

[lunar sandal]

u already have

[azure junco]

they should just cut rates to 0% again

😃

[drifting shore]

fr the only way i can get big n next year

[lucid loom]

do u guys get random whatsapp messages like hey im x from x recruiting, are you still looking for a job

cause how they getting my number

[azure junco]

Yes

I think they just text random numbers

It's. Ascam

[lunar sandal]

Hello this is Michael McDonald from AirDuct cleaning services

[worldly ridge]

guuys its joever

this field is OVDERSTAURATED

https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/18kx0fn/while_other_kids_play_with_toys_this_one_plays/

[azure junco]

thanks for shouting out my YouTube channel man, I really appreciate it 🙏

[drifting shore]

Theres an elementary student that completed leetcode

[lapis tide]

is toronto worth 20k to you

after tax

assuming its all cash

[broken whale]

Anyone got reached out by google after finishing the oa and questionnaire? If so, how long was it after the completion of the oa?

[timid tartan]

Congrats on google

[broken whale]

[timid tartan]

Referral pls

[broken whale]

Don’t have a job yet

Manifesting interview

[drifting shore]

orz

congrats on google

[broken whale]

[azure junco]

maybe it's just me but you couldn't pay me to live in ottawa

i would take 110k in toronto over 110k in ottawa

[azure junco]

congrats on google oa

[lapis tide]

I can

[lunar sandal]

i agree

[gilded charm]

how bad is it

[lunar sandal]

600 on ebay and didnt move forward?

iirc someone at uoft copped ebay

[thorny frost]

Ottawa is boring af

Don’t come here

It’s a place for retirees

[vernal sigil]

imagine spending the end of ur life in ottawa

[mint gorge]

Does Ottawa have good fast internet?

[thorny frost]

Depends on how much you are willing to pay

The internet here is pretty expensive

[lapis tide]

is it any more expensive than toronto

[zenith eagle]

gm frens

[zenith eagle]

stop

acc ottawa as a retiree won't be so bad imho

[azure junco]

Yes

Internet in toronto is incredibly cheap compared to other parts of canada

[lapis tide]

bell.ca doesnt have a toronto selector

[azure junco]

I get unlimited 500mbps for $50/mo

[lapis tide]

theres an ontario selector

[lapis tide]

L

[azure junco]

Sorry not 500mbops

i just double checked

it's 1.5gbps

[lapis tide]

congrats on apartment

[azure junco]

thank you

the building has a deal with rogers

🫶

[lapis tide]

yeah dont they all

[azure junco]

probably

if you lived in the suburbs in a house

this would be $130/mo

[lapis tide]

you can afford the fee

[azure junco]

but in this building it's $50/mo

[azure junco]

what fee

[lapis tide]

if you lived in the suburbs you can probably afford the extra

also nobody actually pays 130 if they care

[azure junco]

what if you're renting in the suburbs

[lapis tide]

switch or threaten to switch

[azure junco]

give me good deal or i switch to beanfield

[lapis tide]

literally

[vernal sigil]

I live in house and 1.5gbps for 60

[wheat comet]

I get 2.5gbps for 75 from bell 🤤

In house

[azure junco]

ok maybei was spreading misinformation

[candid oxide]

bell so fire

fuck rogers

offered me like 2gbps for like less than 40 bucks after i cancelled on them and didnt pick up their calls still didnt go with them

[dapper thorn]

Same, then they called me a month later and offered it for $50😀 I was talking to two different reps and the second guy didn’t know I signed for the 60, so I just switched it to my dads name

[graceful oyster]

wait wtf are you canadian??

I see you submitted roblox OA

i thought roblox was auto rejecting canadians this year/ no sponsorship

[azure junco]

i know a canadian who got a roblox offer

[candid oxide]

interns i think they dont care

[graceful oyster]

Oh interesting

Thanks for info

[graceful oyster]

Ah ok yea i applied to new grad and got rejected within minutes

Didnt know intern different

[candid oxide]

I also got OA for ng

But rejected after

[chilly steeple]

@graceful oyster

why are you here?

[graceful oyster]

Jobless

wbu

Hyd

[chilly steeple]

shitposting

[graceful oyster]

Wys

[chilly steeple]

bing chilling

[graceful oyster]

Nice

[chilly steeple]

why jawbless dawggg

grab that auto

💰

[graceful oyster]

Im trying dawg

[graceful oyster]

Wait no way

Hmm ill re apply, thx

[keen brook]

wait do u still have zon?

[graceful oyster]

nah i fucked up and didnt get return

wait did we talk during amazon

lemme dm

[eternal fossil]

what we doing over the christmas break

except wallow and sleep in

[tight gale]

Baldur gate 3

[eternal fossil]

unironically one of my friends is starting that run lol

[stable ravine]

lc

[eternal fossil]

already on it

more LC you say? added to the break ✅

[stable ravine]

what else

[eternal fossil]

mood

gotta reach 200 by new years

[stable ravine]

Noice

[eternal fossil]

at 120 rn

will report back with update

[stable ravine]

Ima speed run blind 75 and NC 150

[eternal fossil]

just so im held accountable

[eternal fossil]

whats that like 10 a day then ?

[stable ravine]

idk if thats possible at least blind 75 and + 25 from NC 150

[eternal fossil]

yeah i was thinking the same

13 days till nye

[zinc knot]

Amazon OA Wave damn

[eternal fossil]

gotta get to 200 man

[stable ravine]

ng when

[mint gorge]

Imagine doing leetcode and not acing all your interview questions on first try

[stable ravine]

imagine doing leetcode and there are no jobs to apply

[drifting shore]

[lapis tide]

🤣

[eternal fossil]

big ooof fr

realistically how much can you sharpen your knife

[drifting shore]

doing all that leetcode just for u to fumble ur only non-mid oa

[lost lark]

Story of my last 3 months

[analog current]

yeah i had a Canadian roblox recruiter reach out to me for an interview for internship

[timid tartan]

IIRC he/she interned at Amazon already lmao

That might be why

[analog current]

lmao

[night snow]

bruh moment

[azure junco]

wtf high school amazon intern?

bro is the "other candidates"

[lapis tide]

What is fibonacci?

[drifting shore]

they didnt even ask me lc after the oa

[lapis tide]

What is hashmap?

[drifting shore]

What is CRUD?

[fossil field]

cooperate, relive, understand, demonstrate

the 4 skills of good programmer?

They keep asking me to do a " if else conditial " at my job and im like bruh wtf do you mean what is that

[night snow]

crazy
can't believe they asked that, it's so tough

nah I have 0 interviews

But it's good to have a list of stuff you did ready for different possible scenarios

[teal remnant]

Where job

[night snow]

It'll at least get you started on what points you want to make

smart

The only part time jobs I have didn't even have interviews

[drifting shore]

i just hav a chronological structure for my stories

was gonna do this but its pretty obvious tbh

i don't have troube making shit up but im bad at recalling the stories chronologicaly

[analog current]

I’m very happy with the work and luck I’ve had, but now I kinda want to check out research 🫡

[azure junco]

Thanks to destroying my GPA, I can now write the recursive definition of fibonacci as a regular equation 👍

You def do not need a script for behaviourals

have like 2-3 stories that you can slightly alter to fit a question

like real situations that you were in that you can talk about without stumbling over your words

that's all you need

could you give an example

easy

my entire job was automation

right but if you don 't have one you can just be honest

[drifting shore]

yea

[azure junco]

and say you've never done automation work

i don't see a situation where a script would help you in that case

because also by similar logic, what if you get asked a question that your script doesn't cover?

i think it's worth more just like practicing and building up social skills

so you can come up with something on the spot

[drifting shore]

don't have to exactly go with the situation

[azure junco]

tbh if it works for you then keep doing it 💯

everyone's situation is different

[drifting shore]

i managed to pass the interview without fully going with the situation layed out by the interviewer

[night snow]

Some people get nervous getting interviews and forget what they want to say
I can see it being useful

[drifting shore]

[drifting shore]

start yapping

[azure junco]

sometimes i just start sentences without an idea of what i'm gonna say and i hope i can figure it out before i finish the sentence

[drifting shore]

^

[azure junco]

this sounds like a good solution, if you don't want to think about it, it helps just get it written somewhere so you can forget about it and come back to it later

[night snow]

I used to freeze up and stutter so much
Now I've gotten good at yapping

[azure junco]

tbh my best advice is literally just do every interview you get offered, even if you don't want the job

because once you have practice it gets easier

[flint sequoia]

Guys need help deciding first job: tech consulting (little to no code stable company) try and transfer internally to dev role or software dev role at a lesser known company that pushed start dates back a year (pay is more but still unsure of stability)

[azure junco]

i think my first like 5 interviews i stuttered and literally just stopped talking and froze

[drifting shore]

i state things that are semi related to the situation and forcefully relate them to the company culture

[night snow]

depends on the names of the company

[drifting shore]

behaviorals are more rng

[azure junco]

company name is a big factor

[flint sequoia]

The stable one is a Big 4 the other one is a tech consulting firm

[azure junco]

congrats on konrad

[flint sequoia]

No good guess tho

[analog current]

deloitte is already out? for software engineer summer 2024

[azure junco]

ok wait is it actually konrad

idk any other tech consultants in canada

[flint sequoia]

Help opinions I may give names after as a prize the the advice 😃

[worldly ridge]

congrats on konrad

[night snow]

PWC?

[flint sequoia]

It’s not Konrad 😭😭😭😭😭

[lapis tide]

Congrats

[azure junco]

what's the pay difference

[flint sequoia]

75k vs 85k+5k bonus

[azure junco]

imo the pay difference is kind of negligible for a first job

in like 2-3 years it won't really matter

rn you should take the one that opens you up for a better career

[flint sequoia]

I’m scared I take the dev role then get laid off and miss out on the big 4 opportunity

But I’m also scared I take the Big 4 and get stuck

[azure junco]

you could also start the big 4 one and then renege when you get the tech consultant one

[flint sequoia]

I have an unrelated degree for both roles

[drifting shore]

accounting firms

[worldly ridge]

do both

overenployed

[azure junco]

big4 is pretigious if you're doing consulting as a business major, not as a swe

[flint sequoia]

lol I start the dev role first

[azure junco]

oh

[flint sequoia]

My initial plan is if I’m still on the bench by the time the big 4 starts I’ll consider leaving g

[azure junco]

wait like they don't have projects for you?

[flint sequoia]

Ya if that’s the case

[night snow]

I have a friend who just found her second job after "company restructuring" on the last one and got laid off 4 months after
The web dev market be like

[azure junco]

is it accenture

[flint sequoia]

No 😂😂

If you wanna really know PM

[drifting shore]

trash compared to mbb

[flint sequoia]

The big 4 role I’d have to find a way to get switch from consultant to dev anyways but I feel there’s more stability than the dev job

[azure junco]

do you know you're guaranteed a project for the big4?

big 4 is also not safe from like layoffs and benching

what is mbb

[flint sequoia]

Very likely the partner really likes me, small team big/growing industry, most people I talked to were staffed almost immediately after training

[azure junco]

oh interesting

[flint sequoia]

What’s Mbb

[azure junco]

how long do you plan on staying there

i think that's also a consideration

[drifting shore]

for consulting? cracked

[azure junco]

tc?

bro...

cracked

[flint sequoia]

If I can’t switch into a dev role no longer than 3 years if I can maybe 5 if I keep getting promoted. Primarily cause I need the resume history as I have an unrelated degree

[drifting shore]

1m+ at partner

[azure junco]

oh if you have unrelated degree i think that also makes a big difference

[flint sequoia]

In Canada 👀🤨

[azure junco]

i think you should heavily consider the swe role at the consultant

because if you do consulting for 3+ years you might get pigeonholed into it for the rest of your life

or at least it'll make it a lot harder to switch

imo don't count on being able to switch internally, what if they have stupid policies that don't let you?

[flint sequoia]

That’s what I think I’m hoping even if the swe role is unstable it’ll be enough time for the market to get better, for me to learn, and my experience to be respectable for another role somewhere else

[azure junco]

if you think you can last 2+ years at the tech consultant then imo it's a better bet to at least get your foot through the door and be there long enough for the market to recover

[flint sequoia]

Ugh I think I’ll have a better idea after working at the swe role

I have a 6 month buffer

[azure junco]

i dmed but i think the consultant company makes a difference

[flint sequoia]

Between the two roles

[azure junco]

because worst case if it feels bad, then you can quit after 6 months and depending on the company it might not make a difference

although it might not look very good on a resume to leave after 6 months

[flint sequoia]

I was gonna say if brought up in interviews that there was limited work coming in and I saw a better opportunity to contribute elsewhere

[timid tartan]

Like 180k and above???

[mint gorge]

was this for ng?

[fickle juniper]

This is true but the number of ppl that make partner is like

Very very low

[fickle juniper]

entry level IB can make 200k in Canada as a new grad

Idk about consulting

[fickle juniper]

It’s an absolute grind tho

[pale lichen]

What's considered a good new grad software eng BASE salary for canadians

[fickle juniper]

Like much more of a grind than like AWS bad wlb

[fickle juniper]

225k usd

[lunar sandal]

anything above min wage

[pale lichen]

LMAOO this can't be the minimum "good" salary

[timid tartan]

Wtf

Maybe it's time to pivot

[timid tartan]

It's worth the sacrifice for 200k salary honestly

[dark lintel]

Wtf

Is this real

Who pay that much

[timid tartan]

Ikr

Feels like I'm in the wrong major

[dark lintel]

I heard it’s less or around 100k

[timid tartan]

Fml

[dark lintel]

No I mean it’s hard to believe it but at the same time I don’t have many datapoints

[timid tartan]

Same lmao that's what ppl have been telling me

Doesn't matter if the salary is that much

[dark lintel]

My friend got an offer for Deloitte and it’s 80k

Oh yeah true

[timid tartan]

200k for 70 hrs is absolutely worth it

Fml

Damn

[drifting shore]

Most of that is bonus

[dark lintel]

Interesting

[timid tartan]

700k for 80 hrs sounds like a good deal honestly

It's 700k bruh

Yeah I get this lol but I don't have anything else to do anyway

And I make $0 during those idle hours

[drifting shore]

Leetcode

[timid tartan]

LMAO

To be fair, Amazon SWEs can't even do that anyway lmao

80 hrs / week minimum

So might as well right

[grave quest]

@worldly ridge

flex on the chat

[azure junco]

I would rather make 150k working 40 hours a week than 200k working 70 hours a week

[lapis tide]

Common steven take

[lunar sandal]

i got no words

[lapis tide]

Ive missed your friendly banter with steven

Please banter

[lunar sandal]

nah he copped zon happy 4 him

[fading halo]

Dude if you are like unemployed no one event wants you ☠️

[lapis tide]

famously the two options

unemployment or 700k

[fading halo]

😂😂😂

[worldly ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/atlas3dss-atlas3dss-begging-atlas3dss-poor-atlas3dss-homeless-gif-25927308

[night snow]

Sounds like the average Chinese work hours

[fading halo]

loooool but I can’t afford rent

[timid tartan]

I can relate 😂

[timid tartan]

Yep, not just Chinese honestly lol almost everywhere across Asia

[vernal sigil]

Steven can you stfu please 🙏

You make 160k and you’re still dooming looking for attention

[lapis tide]

lionel goat

[timid tartan]

Wdym looking for attention lmao

I just said I could relate…what’s wrong with that?

[timid tartan]

There’s smth called freedom of speech in this country so 🤷🏻‍♂️

[fiery prism]

Hi canada

How was everyone exams

[turbid crater]

I fumbled confluent so bad 🤦‍♂️

[drifting shore]

wagmi

[turbid crater]

Congrats on Microsoft

[turbid crater]

🙏

Anyone got past the Amazon oa here ?

[stable ravine]

canada?

[azure junco]

No, congrats on Microsoft

[vernal sigil]

is this for ng? intern didnt have oa

[pallid reef]

he works at f500?

[lapis tide]

f500 is one way to put it

[pallid reef]

or like manga

[lapis tide]

try fortune 2

[pallid reef]

hahaahh

bros cracked

full time?

[glossy condor]

internship

what is IB

oh investment bbanker

yeah, i want work-life balance... thats why im in software (coping)

[turbid crater]

I got the oa yesterday bruh 😂

[timid tartan]

Do you think there's a way to switch without going back to school for an MBA?

[lapis tide]

steven is the happiest and most satisfied person i've seen

[timid tartan]

Then there's smth wrong with you

Hmm ok I see

[drifting shore]

ask ur parents, doable if u got strong connections

[zinc knot]

Did they send OA or interview

[turbid crater]

Oa

[zinc knot]

Shit was it hard

[turbid crater]

Not even

[zinc knot]

check dm

[timid tartan]

Nah that one is out of the question lol

[lapis tide]

penis examiner

[lapis tide]

youre saying that like cs isnt the same

who tf tryna ib in canada

what is there to invest

[timid tartan]

Lol ik

👀

[azure junco]

85k

[azure junco]

Oligopolies bro

Counter offer 80k, take it or leave it

Telecom pays 80k for new grad

And I thought they were notorious for underpaying

Don't big banks also pay like 80-90k

No

They pay like 95k

I know someone who got gov offer

[worldly ridge]

ciongrats on ur new job

[lapis tide]

mfs be deleting messages

[placid dawn]

cs department asking prof to curve down grades

idk if ill pass if he do that

how is that even legal

[drifting shore]

fr ib recruiting is like 2 year in advance

[timid tartan]

Lmao UofT?

[placid dawn]

saskatchewan

the profs here are 💩

basically cs students who couldnt get job

[timid tartan]

Oh lol I’m at UofT and my CS dept also does that

Other departments also do it sometimes

[placid dawn]

this wouldbe my second time failing discrete math

1 more and gg

[timid tartan]

Wtf 💀

[vernal sigil]

https://jobs.rbc.com/ca/en/job/R-0000074216/2025-Capital-Markets-Global-Investment-Banking-Summer-Analyst-4-Months

2025

[lapis tide]

skill issue

[placid dawn]

yea it be like that

[lapis tide]

why bro deleting shit

[zenith eagle]

average uoft class

kek

https://tenor.com/view/stewie-rocking-shocked-trauma-family-guy-gif-3629549

the ptsd hittin too much

@timid tartan @lapis tide get in here

[lapis tide]

1/110 student

[zenith eagle]

prolly some rich chinese intl student who was able to cheat via prev exams/leaked exams

[lapis tide]

or maybe it was me

[zenith eagle]

👀

fuck

warms my heart to see uoft hasn't changed

long live the 1-2nd year hazing

[lapis tide]

more like 1-5

[zenith eagle]

tru

uoft really brutalizes u man in a way i've never exp before

fuck

i remeber the ta's who handed the cs quizes for the first year 2nd sem cs course (in C) were looking at the quiz and just were like wtf man i couldn't even do this

fun times

[storm stream]

what the fuck 😭

[timid tartan]

?

[timid tartan]

This is pretty normal lmao

My calculus II’s final exam average was 20% lmao

[analog current]

@worldly ridge john d rockerfella said this

Rockafeller

[kind hazel]

thank god I dont go to uoftears

[zenith eagle]

looking back it wasn't THAAAT bad

[worldly ridge]

no thats from karl marx

[thorny frost]

That place is a shithole

I just moved out of there this year

I'm currently residing in Ottawa so I moved from one shithole to another tbh

The funny thing is that I was gonna study CS at the University of Saskatchewan so I checked out their CS students' LinkedIn profiles and found out most of them have no internships or professional experience

It's a huge red flag to me

[hot spruce]

technically that's where we're at for most schools atm

in this economy

[timid tartan]

^

I mean there are still hundreds (or thousands) of UofT CS grads every year lmao

[lucid loom]

Job when

[eager haven]

how bad is tiktok intern oa?

[lapis tide]

fine

[drifting shore]

fuck TikTok

[lunar sandal]

its hard but u dont need perfect to be moved on

[fickle juniper]

Wow sounds like it was really easy!

[lunar sandal]

the issue with tiktok is u gotta do the OA as soon as u get it

[glossy condor]

i got the grad oa

[glossy condor]

i got a new grad oa this morning. im very rusty though, should i practice until friday and do it then, or do it now?

[lunar sandal]

idk abt grad but i got passed up for a role because i didnt do the OA in time and they never rescheduled it for me even tho email says they do

realistically there's nothing practice rn is gonna help lol

do the practice one on their hackerrank prompt

but do it asap

^^

i had other interviews + midterms same time frame lmao

fuck tiktok

ya but

the mfs didnt even reschedule

or resend the invite to me

rough.

[worldly ridge]

@analog current said or timothee?

https://youtube.com/shorts/4VxBiYlwsrk?si=UQ9Sz921TfqqJ8zf

[zenith eagle]

god i fucking hate that guy

why can't he just disappear i hate him i hate his face i hate how he's infecting every single film (though i don't watch films esp not the new releases)

[azure junco]

So true a company is only real if it sells furniture

[gilded charm]

I was doing some basic calculations and it seems very hard to financially live in cities like Vancouver, Toronto with entry level salaries

Anyone living in Gva 55-60k?

[zenith eagle]

you can, just have to cut out some stuff

live w roomies, bike/walk/transit everywhere and u should be good i think

dont let lifestyle creep get u, if uni kids can live in tor/van u can with a salary

though waht sucks if outside of downtown its just sprawling souless suburbia for a young person without a car that's like anathema to living

so

gl

[gilded charm]

I see thanks I did have a car already but most likely will be going for outside central van

[timid tartan]

Also no going/hanging out, no eating out, etc

[gilded charm]

Fuck I can’t cook

[timid tartan]

Cut all your subscriptions and those extra fluff

[zenith eagle]

i feel like @timid tartan will live in coquitlam or somehting and get to work

[timid tartan]

Ye i'm planning to live in Surrey lol

[zenith eagle]

hanging out is cheap

[gilded charm]

I got zero subs

[zenith eagle]

eating out is stupid

[gilded charm]

I count rent insurance as subs

[zenith eagle]

subs?

[timid tartan]

Bruh hanging out usually leads to eating out

[gilded charm]

I will learn for sure to cook subscriptions

[zenith eagle]

no wtf?

[gilded charm]

Opposite for me I go to eat to fight hunger

[zenith eagle]

i literally homebrew kombucha and add a swig of vodka and we drink that the once in a year i hang out with peepole

cheap

[timid tartan]

Ok how can you hang out in Toronto with less than $10 unless you just walk around the small parks or smth

[zenith eagle]

ez

picnics also fun and cheap and free

[timid tartan]

Which is $0

[gilded charm]

Foo o r me hanging out is driving

I don’t drink it anything so

Savings there too

[zenith eagle]

also helps that i'm vegan and i refuse to get non-vegan food which is like 95% of food options so hehe

[timid tartan]

Anyway entry level salary will def be enough to survive

[gilded charm]

But fuel is expensive

[timid tartan]

The only question is how much you wanna save lmao

[gilded charm]

True

[zenith eagle]

ngl tho if you're living like a louse, are u even living @timid tartan ?

[gilded charm]

Thanks for the feedback

[timid tartan]

I am

It's delayed gratification man

[zenith eagle]

r u gonna spend 2-3 years living in surrey with long ass commmutes to downtown ofis, and then no fun outside?

[timid tartan]

Yep

[gilded charm]

I was surprised to see entry level salaries the y gone lower

[zenith eagle]

yeah but i've delayed gratification enough

[timid tartan]

I'm already committed to it lol

[zenith eagle]

i wanna have some fun

not sit and spam job apps

[timid tartan]

No hanging out, no eating out, nothing

[gilded charm]

I’m from Calgary

[timid tartan]

Gotta maximize my savings

[zenith eagle]

i've done literlaly nothing but spam job apps since first year

[gilded charm]

So I’m winter not much at all

[zenith eagle]

how long will u be a swe?

[gilded charm]

In

[zenith eagle]

how is cal?

[timid tartan]

Probably just a few years honestly

[zenith eagle]

good place for a young person?

[timid tartan]

Huh who are you asking

Oh

The other guy LOL

[gilded charm]

Cheaper for sure like insurance mostly but prices going up

[timid tartan]

I thought Cal = California somehow lmfaooooo

[zenith eagle]

bro my issue is the real world (outside of uni) it's just full of adults who are married

where are the young people

i hate it

why dont u get a head start on ur fam's bizniz @timid tartan

[gilded charm]

Sports or clubs as far as I get it it’s also difficult to meet people in Calgary

[timid tartan]

My dad doesn't want to retire yet

[gilded charm]

Adults mostly switch th to bars pub s

[timid tartan]

[zenith eagle]

i hate those cuz now the meta has switched from "go to bars and clubs to meet people" to "ppl go to bars and clubs to socialize with people they already know, they arent looking to meet new people"

also $$$$$ and light beer is $8 if you're lucky

and then don't get me started on the stupid tips

[zenith eagle]

i mean u can take time to learn the ropes and when he retires u can take over immedietly

[gilded charm]

Have you gotten rejections or interviews so far

[timid tartan]

Ye ik, but that will happen when he's close to retiring

Like maybe a year before he decides to retire lol

[zenith eagle]

bro wants to rub salt in my wounds

but insallah i got a few cooking next year will be bountiful

[timid tartan]

[gilded charm]

What’s wrong with that question I’m barely getting responses

Except a few

[zenith eagle]

a few interviews a lot of L's (interviews included)

a few of them rescinded cuz no longer hiring

many ghosts

but i got a few processes in the pipeline i hope they work out pray for me

[worldly ridge]

i love timothee because i love dune

i think he is the new leonardo

of holywood

[zenith eagle]

i hate him cuz my crush in hs was obssessed with him

[worldly ridge]

LMAOOOO

he is goodlooking :3

[zenith eagle]

also i hate his dopey ass face

wanna punch him so bad

and he's bad at acting imho

hated his character in the french dispatch

also he's peak nepo baby

how is he playing wonka i don't understand

[worldly ridge]

hmm never watched french dispatch

i watched come and see and ladybird

[glossy condor]

this is for ontario
ex: in ontario, at 55k salary and $1200 rent, 30% of your monthly income is going to rent after taxes

[gilded charm]

I got two like that

[gilded charm]

Wow that sucks

Getting a reality check here lol

[glossy condor]

yeah
avg rent in toronto is well over that, too

[lucid loom]

where job

[eternal fossil]

where

https://tenor.com/view/tissue-roll-hangging-suicide-funny-gif-22276377

[worldly ridge]

Trump is in Canada rn

In UW

[glossy condor]

make coop great again

[worldly ridge]

I will build a wall so that you cannot get my jobs

[lunar sandal]

where job

[lucid loom]

man tiktok aint even sending oa

i forgot to apply

n just did like 2 days ago

but damn i thought it was auto

[glossy condor]

i applied to two roles and only got one OA

[lucid loom]

when did u apply

cause these mfs skimming me rn n i aint liking it

[lapis tide]

Its batched

[glossy condor]

dec 14. i got an OA for ng role this morning

[lapis tide]

Idk if they sending shit out at this point

[lucid loom]

im dec 16

ig gotta wait

hopefully by tmrw

[lucid loom]

lmk how the OA is when u take it

cause the US one kicked my ass last time

[lapis tide]

I feel like it got easier than earlier in the season

No sql when i took it

[lucid loom]

well i didnt have sql either

[lapis tide]

Damn

[lucid loom]

i just had possible the hardest lc question ive ever seen

possibly*

i got 2 hards n one med

when i checked after

the med was fine

one of the hards was fine

[lapis tide]

You got inorder traversal?

[lucid loom]

the last fucked me up

[lucid loom]

nah almost as bad as rotate matrix

enough said

[timid tartan]

https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/18m82jf/tech_company_master_tier_list/

This kind of shit is insane......ly stupid

[azure junco]

I live in Toronto on less than $18000 a year lol

Downtown Toronto

Including rent

[worldly ridge]

how much is your rent

[azure junco]

$850/mo

[lapis tide]

Congrats on Barrie

[worldly ridge]

Sheeesh how many roomates

[lapis tide]

0

[azure junco]

2 others

[lapis tide]

In Barrie

[azure junco]

I live in the living room lol

[worldly ridge]

dam bro u hit the jackpot

[timid tartan]

Huh how do you sleep then?

[worldly ridge]

pricing wise

[timid tartan]

You sleep on the couch?

[worldly ridge]

yeah do u not get privacy?

[azure junco]

Big living room with curtains

[lapis tide]

He lives in the living room

Whats so hard to understand

[worldly ridge]

[timid tartan]

$850 with no privacy still sounds like a good deal

[lapis tide]

What else do you do in the living room

[worldly ridge]

is dis even lega

[timid tartan]

[worldly ridge]

l

[azure junco]

Yes

[worldly ridge]

live

[lapis tide]

Exactly

[timid tartan]

Ngl I aspire to follow your path

[azure junco]

I'm scared to move out lol

I don't want to double my rent

[timid tartan]

That's a very sick rent lmao

[worldly ridge]

yeah

[azure junco]

But this apartment is kind of shitty

[lapis tide]

Try at least triple

[worldly ridge]

850 tho

i wouldnt care

[azure junco]

The building has 1.5 stars on google 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

Yeah I mean one of the roommates is 100% going to move out in 2025

So my rent will go up to $1400 if I choose to stay here

1400 + 2.5% + 2.5%

because of rent increases

[timid tartan]

^^^^^^

[azure junco]

By then I'm hoping the rental market will crash and I can move into a cheap 1br that is rent controlled

[timid tartan]

It's worth the $850 price point

[worldly ridge]

congrats on the bronx

[azure junco]

[timid tartan]