canada

[soft hamlet]

not like it's that annoying because 3rd and 4th year you only do 5 courses each year

so you can just spread it out

ah I've been doing 5 courses, but I want to focus on career

I did a summer course while working an internship and other stuff

during first year summer

[chilly steeple]

I am up for non jr promotion next month cause graduation and years of exp at company but i haven't freaking graduated

[soft hamlet]

nice nice

how'd you manage that?

[alpine compass]

Why didn’t you try to graduate in 2021/2022. That was when the market was the hottest

[chilly steeple]

So if i mess it up imma acc die

[chilly steeple]

2021 i got internship

My first ever

4 months, renewed for 4 months
Negotiated for ft permanent

Since april 2022 I've been new grad / jr

Not some high end high tier faang or smth but it was very fair

Did pt school while working

[chilly steeple]

Worked like a donkey and prioritized work over education

But i didn't regret this, i didnt enjoy most of undergrad education. I enjoyed working a lot

So winter 2023 i did the insane

3 courses + ft work

4th year and freaking algorithms and an elective and ft work kills

But i passed, and since then im coasting

[soft hamlet]

makes sense

I'm leaning towards doing taht

[chilly steeple]

No regrets from me, but my grades are

Idk if msc is ever considered for me atp cause of that

Cause i wanna have an msc cause of ml field being leaning towards grad school

But exp still king

I basically took big risks and they paid off but I'm just here typing in the GO bus because I'm worried about my final in afew hours and shitposting is theraputic

Yall ever do that lol

[soft hamlet]

yeah lol

[soft hamlet]

my grades are pretty good, just looking for more experience at this point

[chilly steeple]

Most non tech people around me really disliked the idea of me delaying and not graduating asap

By that i mean parents and family

But it was the right call and they changed their mind too

2020-2021 i was bout to graduate with non hons 3 year degree and change careers or smth started looking for colleges

Dire times, got rejected from A&W part time burger flipper

I just dropped and took a break and tried again

Could've been a plumbing school grad or something rn if i did that
Not a bad career, no wfh tho

[timid tartan]

Yea might as well, new grad market is extremely trash anyway

[chilly steeple]

I agree, i delayed last market slump in 2020

[timid tartan]

Tbh in the current market if you don't get a return offer from ur internship then it's most likely a toast

[chilly steeple]

Early 2021 2020 was terrible

[timid tartan]

At least in Canada

[soft hamlet]

I have 4 work experiences on resume

2 of them from HS

[chilly steeple]

Everywhere

[timid tartan]

Nah US is doing pretty well

[chilly steeple]

All dev relates?

[soft hamlet]

yep

two freelance, first year summer internship and grade 11 summer internship

[chilly steeple]

Worse than before, better but not all green and roses

[chilly steeple]

Pretty cool, already ahead of your class loool

U in the green

[timid tartan]

Yeah but at least they have multiple jobs every month

[soft hamlet]

still couldn't find anything this summer

[timid tartan]

Canada can be like 0 job in a month lmfao

[soft hamlet]

[chilly steeple]

I had 0 exp allah smiled upon face somehow

[timid tartan]

[chilly steeple]

Bad market, shit resume, ehit projects and got internship

But i busted my butt so hard dawgg

[zenith eagle]

insallah allah will smile upon me today too

[chilly steeple]

Inshallah for he is the most graceful and the most merciful alhamdullilah

[zenith eagle]

i fucking love using arabic slang, insallah, mashallah, yallah, astagfirullah, habibi

[chilly steeple]

Lmaoo

I am arab and it's just as funny to me when you throw arabic in english sentences lool

[zenith eagle]

i got pulled over in the mideast once and i was trynna explain to the officer what i did wrong and he's like "habibi wait"

[chilly steeple]

Yallah Habibi it's time to grind

[soft hamlet]

my resume is somewhat decent

projects bad

[chilly steeple]

Ye that's why i said u in the green
Exp before 2nd year is rare

Most people ik got after 2nd

[soft hamlet]

still not passing resume screens though

[chilly steeple]

I got 3rd

[chilly steeple]

It's risky to hire a 1st year in a bad market

Let alone in a good markwt

Give it time

[zenith eagle]

what kind of ay-rab are you?

i love how the yanks say "ay-rab"

[chilly steeple]

The war kind

That doesn't filter much right

[zenith eagle]

no it does

[chilly steeple]

I guess i removed like 5 countries overall

[zenith eagle]

so exclude the uae, bahrain, oman, qatar, ksa, kuwait

[soft hamlet]

I need to get second year internships tho

[chilly steeple]

Im syrian sadly yet thankfully

[zenith eagle]

man the bashar al assad song has no right to go so hard

[soft hamlet]

my co-op schedule makes me do two, s24 and f24

[chilly steeple]

Im thankful for our food, but not the passport

[zenith eagle]

Allah, Suriah, Bashar!

[chilly steeple]

Its mid bro, there are tons of better ones but people memed the shitty one that even the supporters dont play

[zenith eagle]

say waht you will that's a banger in my ears

oh rally? link me

[chilly steeple]

I guess it's easier for non arabs to like

Hmm lemme find one that you'd hear taxis blasting

[zenith eagle]

i also love the assad memes

[chilly steeple]

Aka secret police

[zenith eagle]

who must go?

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/assad-must-go

[chilly steeple]

https://youtu.be/1QlOVJqqGG8?feature=shared

Now this is a certified mokhabarat classic

Not as catchy for non syrians but it's hilarious if you understand it

[zenith eagle]

i can read arabic but i got no clue what it emans

[chilly steeple]

Just happy pro regime music

Not fully political but mostly

[zenith eagle]

sorry man

can't beat the bager of allah suriah and bashar

that song is such a fucking bop

[chilly steeple]

Dawgg they put a pizza vending machine in the station only yorku students and 3 other people use

[soft hamlet]

how expensive is it

[chilly steeple]

I believe its about 10 bux

[soft hamlet]

not bad price to be fair

[storm stream]

Hello Canadians

Microsoft is hiring in Fargo, North Dakota, but not Vancouver, British Columbia

What gives?

[weak gazelle]

hello Canadians

[weak gazelle]

What gives is that MSFT is an American company

[storm stream]

https://www.officelovin.com/2017/03/tour-microsoft-canada-excellence-centre/ what gives?

[weak gazelle]

It’s still American…

[storm stream]

It's hiring in Belgrade, Serbia but not Vancouver, British Columbia? What giveth?

[weak gazelle]

they can pay them 1/3rd of Vanc for same work

..

stop

[storm stream]

So full of

Love it

Oh Canada

🇨🇦 🫡

[weak gazelle]

@storm stream

[woeful warren]

does anyone know how many interview rounds squarepoint has for junior technologist?

[lapis tide]

this shit sucks ass

[analog current]

Is bro literally me?

[lost lark]

When you got a return offer but they couldnt hire you anyway (they had no money)

[stable ravine]

Where jobs

[azure junco]

january

[lapis tide]

shut up, job

[silk marten]

Got my first recruiter reach out it’s not over

[worldly ridge]

its joever joe

[silk marten]

cursed by birth fr

[fossil field]

u serb?

[storm stream]

nah Persian

[worldly ridge]

best shawrma in Canada? name it

please dont say lazeez or osmows

🤮

[lapis tide]

osmows

[worldly ridge]

congrats on osmows

tc?

[fossil field]

theres this place next to me it has amazing shwarma

zayzun and pita land

[lapis tide]

10 dollars

[worldly ridge]

well deserved 👏 congrats!

[storm stream]

I'm Persian not Arab mf

😭

[hardy prawn]

Zaaki in New West is fire

[worldly ridge]

wait persian people dont eat shwarma?

wtf

💀

[storm stream]

[worldly ridge]

how come u guys r suggesting me shwarma places and not telling me persian people dont eat shwarma wtf

[fossil field]

not racism, just stereotyping

[worldly ridge]

r u serbian

we need more serbian food here

i went to vietnam and they had a tito statue on one of their tourist attraction islands

[fossil field]

yes yes

no?

[fossil field]

hahaa no way

[azure junco]

Food truck shawarma is bussin

[lapis tide]

you trippin bruh

[zenith eagle]

Is the brown food truck lady still there on st George Street?

"anything to drink for you?" ❤️❤️❤️

[brittle cosmos]

Yaseen in Sauga

[azure junco]

you ever tried Food From East???

two wraps for $9 in this economy

where else can you get a deal like that

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/tissue-roll-hangging-suicide-funny-gif-22276377

[azure junco]

i don't like brown truck personally

overrated and unseasoned fries

mama's best is better

the pink truck has the best burgers imo

the chicken burgers are scrumptious 🫶

but they usually have a really long line that is not worth standing in

[worldly ridge]

2costco hotdogs for 2 dollars

[azure junco]

Costco doesn't count because there's none downtown 😭

Otherwise they'd go bankrupt from the amount of people who'd eat lunch there every day

[worldly ridge]

the homelss would camp out the food courts instead of ttc

[vivid fiber]

costco is goated with the sauce

[zenith eagle]

gm frens

[soft hamlet]

gm

we vibe

exams

[timid tartan]

Pain

[candid oxide]

[pallid reef]

fucking rejected brooo

[placid dawn]

is it easier to get job after I graduate.
I graduate in May and im applying rn but no luck

[azure junco]

Do you have any previous internships

[placid dawn]

yea almost 2 years in total

[fickle lotus]

Nah, it wont be easier or harder (i.e. won't change companies perspective of you)

But it will take a toll on your mental

I just got an offer 7 months after graduating so just gotta keep grinding

[placid dawn]

i just literally dont see any junior positions almost

i really dont wanna work ft with the government which is where I work rn

[fickle lotus]

That's normal for Canada this time of year

Jan/Feb should be more junior openings

[placid dawn]

0 career growing

[fickle lotus]

Be ready

[placid dawn]

[fickle lotus]

Is it a dev position? Better than being unemployed imo

[silk marten]

Yeah jan everything drops

couple more weeks and everyone in this channel gmi

[candid oxide]

[azure junco]

Yes everything is stopped rn because a lot of recruiters and hiring managers are on pto

Because of holiday season

We'll all make it in January 🔥

[lost lark]

Damascus shawarma in calgary

[placid dawn]

yea java code from before my dad was born

[drifting shore]

wagmi wagmi wagmi

[lost lark]

To be fair if u get good at that youll probably be employable at any bank, all of them have old technology thats too hard/expensive to replace

[placid dawn]

bru I just wana work at netflix

[chilly steeple]

Yes

approval from me

[azure junco]

Depending on which government position it is, some of them do use modern tech and have some interesting challenges, especially if you work for a national security team or such

[lapis tide]

[azure junco]

congrats on successful side project

[lapis tide]

Thanks babe

[storm stream]

January Jumpstart

🥰

[still coral]

boustan or nothing.

[kind hazel]

any1 know when cisco canada open up their internship?

[digital coyote]

They already opened the position long time ago and I already did their OA but haven’t heard anything back since then

[azure junco]

Cisco opened over the summer

[drifting shore]

didnt even get the oa this year

[worldly ridge]

thank u for the shwarma recomendation guys. im gonna put them in my bucket list ❤️

[azure junco]

Get lazeez (I've never eaten lazeez)

Imo the best shawarma is an in the wall, non chain place

any mom and pop shop

[timid tartan]

In your dream

Remember, this is Canada, not US

[lapis tide]

osmows

[fossil field]

zayzun by kipling and dundas and pitaland

[azure junco]

pitaland is a chain so it is immediately disqualified

although i do love me some zaad

[analog current]

Hey guys big news

Town hall 16 just dropped

Meaning im now another 2+ years away from max

(when will my suffering end?)

[tight gale]

For jobs that don't sponsor, TN is technically not sponsor so can canadians apply to those?

[vivid fiber]

It is a sponsor

[tight gale]

you sure?

[lucid berry]

he works in the US

[tight gale]

https://rjimmigrationlaw.com/resources/does-a-tn-visa-require-sponsorship/

Idk if working in the US means you become knowledgeable in visa law though

[vivid fiber]

While you technically dont need sponsorship you effectively do

Because border guards can be very strict on what you need to say

And if you say the wrong things they'll just deny you

Companies dont want to risk this, and end jp needing to hire lawyers to draft pre-approval docs

[tight gale]

hmm I see

[lapis tide]

dont let that stop you from applying

[vivid fiber]

I just asked someone where the washroom was.

They looked at me like I was a dumbass. They said: "Do you mean the Restroom?"

I hate America

[worldly ridge]

i love lazeez, but i ate way better shwarma den lazeez

so its now poop

to me

[tight gale]

applied to the nsa

[lapis tide]

good

[worldly ridge]

congrats on nsa

[lapis tide]

you can become the bob menendez of canada

[azure junco]

going to apply to lockheed martin, raytheon, northrop grumman, boeing, and nasa as a non us citizen

thank you guys for the inspiriation and encouragement

[drifting shore]

spacex neuralink asml

[chilly steeple]

Royal bank

Sup

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/tissue-roll-hangging-suicide-funny-gif-22276377

[eager haven]

have amazon sde intern oas been sent out yet?

are they even hiring

[frozen brook]

ive heard some people getting the OAs

but i have had no luck :(

[eager haven]

fuck apparently they started sending out OAs nov 20

[drifting shore]

my friend is still waiting for his return offer

[storm stream]

Any Canadians have luck with Microsoft?

[lapis tide]

lionelgoat

[eager haven]

for swe internship I asked for an update mid november they said they'll update within 2 weeks and then just ghosted me

[storm stream]

@oblique quiver tell me more

[oblique quiver]

they do the interview

im like a tad confused what exactly you're asking lol

[storm stream]

I'm asking if any Canadians have had luck with Microsoft

[oblique quiver]

oh

uh

final went well

[storm stream]

[oblique quiver]

turned them down cos of scheduling issues

[storm stream]

intern?

[oblique quiver]

yeah

[storm stream]

🐐

[oblique quiver]

[kind jasper]

try water closet next time, see how much more confused they are.

[zenith eagle]

!process senioritis

[karmic monolith]

You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process, 2023_summer_intern_process, 2024_summer_intern_process, 2023_winter_intern_process, 2023_fall_intern_process, 2023_grad_process, 2024_grad_process

[vivid fiber]

Lol

[zenith eagle]

Saying "bathroom" when you're not actually wanting for a bath just gives me the ick why are Americans so weird

Restroom I'm neutral about toilet I don't like but I tolerate

Lavatory sounds weird in a non-aeroplane context

Washroom just sounds great has a veneer of elegance so as to not to allude to the gross bodily functions that necessitate the use of the washroom, but is specific enough as it refers to washing your hands

[placid dawn]

[eternal fossil]

truly a costanza take

[zenith eagle]

I'm giving Jerry material for his next stand-up 😀

[chilly steeple]

Call it a shitroom

[lapis tide]

breastroom

[zenith eagle]

so uncouth

costanza doesn't approve

[drifting shore]

zon oa fumble

its over

[lapis tide]

congrats on zon oa

[teal remnant]

Bro gib zon oa

[drifting shore]

my first and only oa choke is on the amazon oa

[zenith eagle]

bezos on lex's pod

it's truly over

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcWqzZ3I2cY

[night stump]

Has anyone done the wiley edge assessment before

Idk what to expect

[night stump]

I also dont know what to expect overall from Wiley Edge

[gilded charm]

how is Ottawa

[fiery prism]

hello canada

anyone got zon oa

[drifting shore]

i fumbled

[timid tartan]

You might still be fine honestly

[wheat comet]

Did u get zon oa

[wooden lichen]

fuck this place

[drifting shore]

ye i fumbled

[wheat comet]

what u got on ur resume

[drifting shore]

rng

[wheat comet]

cap

ur resume stacked fs

[lucid loom]

Lol

Bad

Dunno I didn’t work in canada

[fossil field]

No, best way to get a job in this market is connections

network network network

#1 tip for finding a job

[silk marten]

internships and coops on your resume are incredibly helpful

[prime cedar]

This man got a job and forgot how to act lol

[turbid crater]

Did someone ever receive this ? Looks like a scam to me.

Usually the company’s name and a message show up but here, nothing. Straight to business

[timid tartan]

He's not wrong tho?

He said the best way

Not the only way or something similar

[prime cedar]

Not saying he is but that’s all he preaches

[timid tartan]

Tbh with the current market I can see why he wanted to emphasize that lmao

[smoky flare]

check domain name of the website it links to

[night stump]

I just did the wiley edge assesment

It wasnt even programming

It was like math questions wtf

[storm stream]

click reply you'll see the recruiter it came from LMAO

Hello Canadians

Will we ever see jobs in this glorious nation we call home?

Or is it joever?

[timid tartan]

I mean

You literally have a job at Google right now

👀

[storm stream]

Google pays me minimum wage

Canada moment

[turbid crater]

I did it kinda looks like hackerrank but I can’t see whole domain without clicking on it and I don’t want to for now

What do you mean ?

[turbid crater]

I talked to a recruiter but it was kinda sketchy

She said that she sent it to my school email and it bounced

And then asked for my personal email( I gave her one of my dupes) it bounced again and then I got it this next day

It’s weird too cuz it’s a pretty big company and I don’t see intern anywhere

[azure junco]

If you hover over the start test link where is it trying to redirect you?

What would be the motive here for a scam though? To steal your OA strategy?

Unless it's a ploy to get you to sign up for a fake job

In which case they are very dedicated

[chilly steeple]

I edged to it

[zenith eagle]

gm frens

[fiery prism]

GM

[worldly ridge]

good morning guys!!

we are approahcing chirstmas!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAkMkVFwAoo

[lapis tide]

its like the services that do captchas for bots

[timid tartan]

"It's beginning to look a lot like unemployment Christmas"

[zenith eagle]

tfw no hallmark movie moment of getting ur $500k ng tc

[timid tartan]

Where $500k ng tc

[zenith eagle]

rentech

there's a joke about if u win the imo u hope on the next flight to east setauket

[timid tartan]

Well that's not in Canada

[worldly ridge]

okay fine

is this better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ajUzI8USRo

[timid tartan]

"Merry Christmas...I applied for a job, but the very next day, I got rejected"

[zenith eagle]

"last evening, i gave you my resume, but the very next day, you threw it away. this evening, to save me from tears, i'll give it another company (who'll probably throw it away too)"

i tried

[timid tartan]

Lmao story of my life fr

[zenith eagle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8gmARGvPlI

song title has a double entredre since this economic situation rlly making it seem like this year will be my "last" christmas

[boreal sentinel]

LFGGGG CHRISTMASSSS

IVE CELEBRATING THIS SONCE SEPTEMBER

[timid tartan]

No money to celebrate it

[boreal sentinel]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cw1biUrLyzy/?igshid=MjM0N2Q2NDBjYg==

hella.basa

Merry Christmas fam!🤘😂🇵🇭 Clubs in the Philippines >

🎥: @itscjcarlos

#filipino #christmas

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[tall dust]

can't even get an interview with FDM 😭

[drifting shore]

Rejected by mcdonalds

[tall dust]

thats probably my next goal

[chilly steeple]

Truly joever

[timid tartan]

Yeah new grad interview is literally a mission impossible

[gilded charm]

Anyone got Cisco emerging talent email which is confusing

It’s like you’re rejected but your resume has been n forwarded internally

🤨

[stable ravine]

everyone got the same email lol

[pearl trout]

anyone done workday oa b4, how bad is it (or ez)

[hallow urchin]

anyone in the process with instawork vanc

[storm stream]

Hello Canadians

Who has a job

Who hasn't

[neon imp]

Unemployed me 😢

[naive shell]

I hasnt

[fossil field]

i got 1 started a month ago

[fiery prism]

I got an intern

I want more

[storm stream]

doing what

[storm stream]

doing what

[storm stream]

same

[fossil field]

full stack eng

[fiery prism]

Govt job

Ending next week

After that I’m unemployed

[storm stream]

nice

[storm stream]

fuck

[fiery prism]

Joking

Doing ibm next year

[fiery prism]

They kindly rejected us

[stable ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/titanic-gif-24496206

[placid dawn]

diacord outage

[eternal fossil]

honestly embarrassing it wasnt more days

[stable ravine]

hire me discord

[lapis tide]

Now how did you get this job

I bet it was from applying

[chilly steeple]

I never applied for my job

I got it

[placid dawn]

not me

[dark lintel]

I did

But failed

The one in Cupertino ?

[zinc knot]

I got 100 kekw

[eternal fossil]

Goddamn nice

[fossil field]

Hahaha got it through connection. Was getting 0 responses from applying

[storm stream]

Hello Canadians

Jobs = 🚫
Hopes of buying a home = 🚫
Reliable healthcare = 🚫
Inflation = ✅

Oh Canada! 🫡

[stable ravine]

Depression = 📈

[neon imp]

Canada is great because I get to see a fat wolf every morning

[zinc knot]

us

https://tenor.com/view/ginger-ale-canada-dry-ginger-beer-ginger-spice-ale-gif-19952836

[zenith eagle]

this is why i hate when panies cry about focusing on the economy over other things -- like brah economic issues are more important than most other things, you fix this, others will fall in place

us got demonic healthcare, in some states, taxes rival canada, inflation out the books, gun crime, etc etc but it dont matter cuz JOOOOOOBBBBSSS

sad

tho i guess u pay for it with your soul tho so idk

smh we all just need to frolick in a field or soemthing idk i just wanna die

[honest tulip]

Did anyone apply for the Microsoft NG position

If I have 16 months of internship experience and a referral and got rejected without an OA

Who the fuck are they hiring???

[magic bane]

Maybe RO

[dusky stratus]

referrals dont matter at microsoft. I talked to a recruiter and he said the best way to maximise your chances at hearing back for NG is by going to an event

[storm stream]

people out of CMU/stanford/cal with much better internships than you and me

[dusky stratus]

also companies that give 16 month internships are usually shit tier canadian companies for pey. Doubt microsoft cares about that

[zenith eagle]

your fault for not applying on windows using edge

[stable ravine]

Mfst us?

[fossil field]

whatcha guys been up to

[lapis tide]

applying to jobs

not networking

[fossil field]

hows it going for u

?

what are ur stats? and any interviews coming up?

[lapis tide]

5 inches flaccid 3 inches erect

yes

[lucid loom]

Holy shit u got an interview 🐐

[azure junco]

tc?

[lucid loom]

Measure from the taint

For tc

[lapis tide]

4x what gaotek pays

[azure junco]

damn you're getting paid hella cash

we talking gaotek intern or full time?

[lapis tide]

intern

but they pay similar

[chilly steeple]

skill issue

[chilly steeple]

grass is GREEEEEEEEEEENERRR
I'M GONNA GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[timid tartan]

^^^ real

16 months is not even a lot either tbh

[drifting shore]

not a lot compared to u

[timid tartan]

Nah I mean most people have like ~3-4 internships, each for 3-4 months long

[dark lintel]

Most people have 0-1

I think

[lucid berry]

ye

[chilly steeple]

who is most people

[fossil field]

only people who went to schools with go coop program

yall i did some major connecting yesterday at a party, gonna land a top paying gig in 6 months lol

[chilly steeple]

so not most people since most people did not go to wlo

[fossil field]

time to grind and get that 6 month experience then im hopping from my current job

[chilly steeple]

most canadian unis afaik have the same co-op/intern system with the exception of uwl

[chilly steeple]

I know yorkies who did that but they're def not a representation of most compsci majors nor yorku students

[timid tartan]

Yeah precisely

That's why I'm saying 3-4 is typical

Waterloo's coop is at least 5 co-ops right?

[chilly steeple]

No exactly why 3-4 is untypical
Typically 0-2

[timid tartan]

Huh?

How lmao

[chilly steeple]

Do you think comspci students on average do 3-4 internships?
I'm saying outside of something like waterloo most people do 0-2
Some people do 3 or more but that's not typical

[timid tartan]

Yeah I do lol bcs co-op programs force you to complete 3 or 4 co-op terms

[chilly steeple]

3 or 4 terms or different internships?

[timid tartan]

I mean it doesn't matter

[chilly steeple]

Ah so like 6-12 months then yeah

[timid tartan]

It could be the same company

[timid tartan]

No 9-16 months

[chilly steeple]

Most people don't bother with internship or coop programs at my school

Unless they're international

[timid tartan]

Yeah that's me LOL I'm only in the program for the work permit

I don't care about the co-op portal

[chilly steeple]

I guess it's true for the coop program students, i assumes you meant most compsci students in general

Mb

[timid tartan]

Aren't most computer science students in co-ops though

[chilly steeple]

Nope

[timid tartan]

Feels like co-op is extremely popular in Canada

[chilly steeple]

Not mandatory in most programs

[timid tartan]

Oh yeah ofc it's not mandatory

[chilly steeple]

In ontario the biggest 2 schools are uoft and york and most people aren't part ofnitb

[timid tartan]

But people are eventually "peer-pressured" into it lmao

[chilly steeple]

Peer pressured into it and then don't finish it

[timid tartan]

🤔

[chilly steeple]

% of people who finish the coop requirements is small from what I've seen
Getting into the program is not difficult but getting a coop or actually finishing the requirement for the distinction is not worth

[timid tartan]

Lol yeah idk I think co-op is pretty much worthless for domestic students

[chilly steeple]

Yee no need

[timid tartan]

For international students, it's useful only for the work permit lmao

[chilly steeple]

There are more interesting programs for internships

Like ventureforcanada

[timid tartan]

Yeah most jobs are available in public anyway

[timid tartan]

👀

?

Huh

[chilly steeple]

Only specific places like IBM are anal about the program

[timid tartan]

LMFAO yeee

[chilly steeple]

Program for students tonwork at startup

[timid tartan]

Lol wut

I am at UofT

[chilly steeple]

Same

[timid tartan]

I'm fine lmao

[chilly steeple]

Look at ur name

[timid tartan]

Mf that has nothing to do with school

...

Smh

[chilly steeple]

Either depressed from school or went to school depressed

Causing more depression

[timid tartan]

No

I'm depressed bcs of my NG job

Lmao

Not yet, but I will be at Amazon

Fml

RDS Proxy

[chilly steeple]

Tbh uoft sg mans are the least depressed of uoft
Not saying much

But utm and utsc

[timid tartan]

I'm at utsc

[chilly steeple]

Sorry

[timid tartan]

Lmfao

[chilly steeple]

I only know the horror stories

[timid tartan]

I mean I guess it kinda depends on the individual

Ops?

How

Idt so man

My team actually builds features lol

Huh

Oh well

Idk about that one xD

No idea

But then again that shouldn't apply for my team since my team is based in both Seattle and Vancouver

So...

XD

Not really

It's just that the majority of ppl are in Seattle

Some in Van

But yeah we do have a sister team

Hmmm idk lmao I've seen my team building features in their CRs

[fossil field]

i tried getting a placement using york but nearly impossible, barely any jobs and replies even. I had to find my internship myself just by applying to job boards

[timid tartan]

He already has a job

Lmfao

[phone]

Literally garbage 😭

Definitely not

Not with the tax that we have here

And salary that doesn't catch up with the inflation

It's crazy how Van - Seattle and Toronto - NYC are so damn near but the salary discrepancy is so huge

[fossil field]

austin boys

idk why ur choosing anything else

[glossy condor]

Any to-be graduates had luck with https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/ ?
Kind of a hell site to navigate, all the job descriptions are incredibly generic too

[turbid crater]

Ngmi

I know lots of people who applied but no body who got one

[chilly steeple]

This is neither government only jobs nor do government jobs pay minwage

[chilly steeple]

I wonder who'd use that board exclusively and not the usual boards like linkedin or indeed

For dev?

How

[glossy condor]

it's a bunch of companies asking for you to send the resumes via email

are all of these minimum wage?

[chilly steeple]

Proof by contradiction

I won't dawg

Flop

[glossy condor]

how do you know?

[chilly steeple]

Flop on applying

Ah ok

[glossy condor]

job boards are dead rn, these seem to be way more active for some reason

[chilly steeple]

Prolly scam flex ting

Dead end job is better than unemployment

Switch later

How

So they'd rather hire an unexperienced person over an experienced person

Why

In what workd

Yes let me hire the guy who neeted for 3 years after grad vs a guy who worked a few years

Yes but what if no new grad

In big tech sex company

[worldly ridge]

mindgeek or big tech

mindgeek

[chilly steeple]

Then experience is more important than no exp

Yes but imagine you couldn't get anything but non big tech

What u gonna do

[worldly ridge]

rope

[chilly steeple]

Rope mindset grindset

Now that's a real waste of time

[timid tartan]

Bruh what

[chilly steeple]

Lolc

[timid tartan]

I mean which big tech are we talking about

[chilly steeple]

Are you 3rd year or less

[timid tartan]

Amazon will take everyone in normal economy

Even with blank resume

[chilly steeple]

What's ur qualification/year of study dawg

Grad school?

[timid tartan]

He's already working

[chilly steeple]

Ah ok

How many yoe

Yec

I'd rather work meh for a year than neet for a year

I'd rather get money

Long term im dead

I have cats to feed

[timid tartan]

Are you at Amazon rn?

[chilly steeple]

How doable is google

[timid tartan]

I've heard Amazon could hurt your resume more than helping it

Hopefully that's not true

[chilly steeple]

What is this looney toons logic

[timid tartan]

If so I'm fcked lol

[dark lintel]

that is huge not true

[chilly steeple]

I got 2nd hand autism from this convo

[dark lintel]

Are you ft or intern ?

[timid tartan]

No I mean I've heard some HMs saying they just blacklist all ex-Amazon bcs of culture fit issues

[dark lintel]

starlust

Doing good hbu

chilling in Amazon?

[timid tartan]

Which team lmao

[dark lintel]

is it toxic

[timid tartan]

Toronto?

[dark lintel]

dam

AWS?

that sounds amazing no

Lmao

[timid tartan]

TO / Van?

No I mean

Which one lol

Oh wtf that's interesting

I thought Van teams are usually more chill tbh lmao

Maybe it's just my team

Nah my team seems to be very chill tbh lmao

Hmm

I mean my mentor literally goes online only 3 days per week lmao

Then he disappears midday

And then there are people sending OOTO notifications bcs of stupid random reasons and nobody cares LOL

I was flabbergasted

Yea hopefully that won't happen to me 😭

I wish I had some other choices lmao market is insanely shit rn

March

Lmao it's kinda intentional

I wanna grind stuff before I start working

Yea my team primarily works on low level DB + networking

I have 0 knowledge about low level DB so uhhhh

[halcyon arrow]

Code mysql from scratch

[lunar sandal]

anyone heard back from zon for Neuron Compiler Engineer, Annapurna ML?

[solid flint]

Does anyone know how Amazon sponsors Canadians for the j1 visa?

[main grotto]

ye they do

im pretty sure

[pseudo storm]

Anybody get codesignal from instacart

Not ng just regular posting

[candid oxide]

for off szn ye

[solid flint]

Is it diff for summer vs off season?

[lapis tide]

Congrats on sex

[candid oxide]

ye I think summer is Canada only if you got Canada intern offer

[azure junco]

Did you also have a recruiter reach out for that position

I applied after recruiter and still haven't heard back

[lunar sandal]

damn u had a recruiter reach out??

im just "under consideration" lol

[azure junco]

Idk if Annapurna is under ASP but from what I know no one in Canada has gotten offers for asp yet

[lunar sandal]

i cold applied

[azure junco]

On handshake but she basically just sent me the link for it I don't think recruiter referrals affect amazon for new grad or internships

Ngl I haven't checked my portal I probs should 💀

Mine also says under consideration

[lunar sandal]

🤝

[lapis tide]

congrats on fiend

[zenith eagle]

yes

i feel like your responses on tinder are more akin to LI profile views

they dont mean much

not trynna hate or anything but alas it's the truth

[terse burrow]

well shit looks like you know me better than i know myself

[zenith eagle]

share pics

👀

i hope u get the offer letter bro

[lost lark]

Yep

[solid flint]

Hmm I got the summer intern offer for Seattle somehow. Not sure why they didn’t move me to the Vancouver location

[candid oxide]

ur good then

[zenith eagle]

why do u say that

[lunar sandal]

believe me its literally impossible to land an internship at FAANG rn

[zenith eagle]

[drifting shore]

[zenith eagle]

yeah ngl the vibes have shifted if u didn't get into big tech by grad

it's :joever:

what big tech have opened up for big tech lmao

fb and msft nflx i guess

but the rest haven't opened ng

[lunar sandal]

i just find this field so fucking bizarre

holy shit. lol.

[zenith eagle]

for ng

where is "here"

[drifting shore]

my only hope for big tech is rate drop

[lunar sandal]

bro no WAY you're unemployed

i highly doubt. I've interviewed a fair bit so far and even for NON BIG TECH companies, it feels like if you give the hirer even a slight miniscule negative signal they instantly give u hard reject

Huawei, a fintech, uber, among others

and i had solid resume + role relevant exp + good technical.

the intern market is competitive beyond. fucking. belief.

[drifting shore]

its so random

i didnt do great but still got an offer

[lunar sandal]

the very first interview i had in October, i aced technical asked questions used STAR and got it done in half the time, and got solid hire signal vibes from the ENGINEERING MANAGER

i thought my co op search would be done right there

and u can guess what happened since im active here LOL

so no. I think companies are just picky beyond belief

or maybe im just severely, extremely unlucky

[zenith eagle]

in canada?

lmao its across the w0rld

if tech is a cost centre

you'll be paid as such

thats why u work at comapnies wjere tech is not cost centre

[vivid fiber]

Yeah this checks out

[lunar sandal]

yeah i cant speak on ng since im not there yet but

intern seems like the new ng market LMFAO

[vivid fiber]

I mae around 75k base

At my current company

Yea

I don't get any of those

So i make 75k

[zenith eagle]

[lunar sandal]

wow thats like poverty

in ontario

[vivid fiber]

It isn't lol

[lunar sandal]

was this for ng?

ic

[vivid fiber]

Median income is legit 75k here

[lunar sandal]

😮

someone give me a job 😦

or a referral

or anything

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-13261737358986789359

[vivid fiber]

Median

[lunar sandal]

3rd

[drifting shore]

pray to the rng gods

[lunar sandal]

not at this rate

its already dec

[lunar sandal]

im trying :C

[drifting shore]

recruiting season starts in jan for canada

[dark lintel]

Did Amazon ever posted their ng position

I hope I didn't miss it

[drifting shore]

wagmi

[storm stream]

Ain't happening

[timid tartan]

That won't happen lol

[storm stream]

Listen to this guy, he lives and breathes leadership principles

[timid tartan]

I mean only that one LP

Because I'm broke af

[storm stream]

[drifting shore]

frugality

[timid tartan]

[drifting shore]

accomplish more with less

[timid tartan]

I've been applying frugality since I was born

[drifting shore]

memorized all that lp just for me to fumble the oa

[timid tartan]

LMAO I mean how bad did you do

[storm stream]

50% used to be enough

[timid tartan]

I know some people who got 2/10 and still passed

[lucid loom]

oas r so whack

[storm stream]

[lucid loom]

aced a bunch and nothing lmao

also what a waste of time

[storm stream]

If they're auto that's just how it goes

[timid tartan]

That's pretty much life in general

[lucid loom]

since chat gpt these guys started giving out the industry design one

which is just so annoying

like lc was annoying too but this one is always SO FUCKING LONG

[storm stream]

Industry one is so fucking hard

[timid tartan]

@storm stream make a startup and hire all of us pls thx

[lucid loom]

bro q1-3 is light

then 4 is legit time crunch to shit

like mf how u want me to change everything that fast

[dark lintel]

lmao classic

[timid tartan]

Is this the ICF from codesignal lmao

[lucid loom]

uhh think so

[storm stream]

Classes and abstractions 🫡

[lucid loom]

i always use that

[timid tartan]

Lol yea I fumbled that too

[storm stream]

Yes the one you aced mf

[lucid loom]

always

[timid tartan]

Didnt get perfect

[lucid loom]

it wasnt even enough time

[timid tartan]

Mf wdym aced

I failed it

[lucid loom]

i got 580 or sm shit tbh

and still got ghosted bruh

[timid tartan]

Ye I got 540/600

[timid tartan]

Yea makes sense

[storm stream]

From where?

[timid tartan]

It's 600/600 or gtfo

[lucid loom]

thats ridiculous tho

[timid tartan]

Nah it makes sense tbh

[lucid loom]

like im sorry but how does giving me a nutty time crunch show my ability

[storm stream]

Nah 500+ tbh if your resume is nice

[lucid loom]

not at all

my rsume is nice

[timid tartan]

There are thousands of ppl who can get 600/600 most likely

[lucid loom]

i got auto rejected

and so what

[timid tartan]

My resume is trash

[storm stream]

Dropbox?

[lucid loom]

u think 600 represents how good u are

no i forgot now tbh

i didnt even know dropbox opened

is it still open

[timid tartan]

It definitely doesn't

[storm stream]

I only know two companies that do icf

🫡

[timid tartan]

But you gotta play the game

[lucid loom]

or just change the entire shitbox system

[storm stream]

Most probably it was your Canadian passport

😭

[timid tartan]

Why would they change it if thousands of ppl are still willing to play it

[lucid loom]

because its shit

[timid tartan]

But it works

[lucid loom]

for both parties

[timid tartan]

[lucid loom]

no man

[storm stream]

It's better than take homes

[timid tartan]

I mean it works for the companies

Not for us

[lucid loom]

u know how many bad hires get through on this

no no

not the case

u get tonnes of bad hires

[timid tartan]

Uhhhhh

[lucid loom]

who only know lc monkey shit

[timid tartan]

Isn't the false positive pretty low compared to the true positive tho

[lucid loom]

a year later

waste of resources

[drifting shore]

ghosted everywhere last year with 840/850

[timid tartan]

No way it takes a year lol

[lucid loom]

its harder for sure but its still sucks

[timid tartan]

Probably in a few months

[lucid loom]

i havent rly seen ppl get laid off before a year

unless they straight up just refused to do their work

[storm stream]

Isn't there a 6 month grace period?

Then you coast for another 6

[lucid loom]

even if they required maximal support it doesnt usually happen

[storm stream]

And move on to the next job

[timid tartan]

Oh I'll be pip'ed on my first day with how things look like right now

[storm stream]

🫡

[lucid loom]

nah g u got it

[timid tartan]

1 day grace period

[storm stream]

[lucid loom]

im just saying u have to willingly not be working to get piped before a year

so bad hires r costly

and tho the shitty oa system does filter a lot of em

[timid tartan]

Yeah definitely

[lucid loom]

it just doesnt represent shit

like dawg

[timid tartan]

But ig it still outweighs the wasted money idk

[lucid loom]

i fucking hate rotate matrix

[timid tartan]

Otherwise why companies do it anyway

[lucid loom]

why the fuck would i ever need to rotate a matrix

ive built countless things varying a magnitude of sectors

and lemme tell u

ive never encountered an issue of the sort

i legit leave live interviews if i encounter fucking rotate matrix

fuck that pos question

[timid tartan]

🤣

I mean yeah I agree that kind of question sucks

But there are some questions that do translate to real-world engineering work tho

[lucid loom]

yeah

but not that question

[timid tartan]

Yea not that one lol

[lucid loom]

man i hate it so much, it makes me so mad

fucking rotate matrix

[timid tartan]

[lucid loom]

whoever crafted that degenerate question should suffer the worst fate imaginable to man

and so should his/her future bloodline until existence itself ceases to exist

FUCK

okay ima go cool off peace gang, may the NG spirit carry us

[azure junco]

once you have a bit of experience please everyone start boycotting the shitty hiring process companies

force them to change the system

ofc if it's your first position or whatever take what you can get

but don't take abuse after that

[lapis tide]

nut just did rotate matrix

[lapis tide]

what about gaotek

[azure junco]

isn't rotate matrix just like

transpose it and then swap it horizontally

or am i wrong

haven't done it since first year for cisco

[lapis tide]

shut up, jobtoid

[azure junco]

i love gaotek everyone here should work there

[azure junco]

ok semiconductoid

[lapis tide]

"isnt rotate matrix just"

a stupid question is what it is

[lucid loom]

fr

wht a guy

heres how you understand rotate matrix

crush glass all over the floor

[azure junco]

no i understand that it's a stupid question

i agree

like if you've never seen it before it's stupid because you can't just think that up on your own without seeing it before

it doesn't test anything aside from your googling skills

[lucid loom]

take off your clothes, call someone to murder ur family in front of your eyes, as they are getting killed, you try to save them but doing so means you drag your naked body across all the glass, u try ur hardest but fail to save them and only end up being cut everywhere

[lapis tide]

thanks

[lucid loom]

you live your live in regret of crushing the glass in the first place

[timid tartan]

I think the mathy-students will be able to figure it out on the first try

[lucid loom]

i can never do it even after seeing it

[timid tartan]

Or at least the competitive programming ppl lmao

[lucid loom]

i can do LC hards

but i cant do rotate matrix

[azure junco]

but htey've probably seen it before

[lucid loom]

it doesnt sit right w me

never did never will

[azure junco]

because how do you just notice that transposing + flipping a matrix rotates it

[lucid loom]

so i just leave

[lapis tide]

i too can do trapping rainwater

[azure junco]

unless you've done something similar before

[timid tartan]

🤔

[azure junco]

i cannot and if i ever get asked this question i will leave the interview

[lucid loom]

good

[lapis tide]

maybe explains why youre not a semicondutoid

[lucid loom]

lets all agree from now on

live or not

[azure junco]

so true

[drifting shore]

i remember it from a ccc problem

[lucid loom]

if u get a question u dont like

just leave

[lapis tide]

ok

[azure junco]

i did that with tiktok and snowflake

[lucid loom]

that will show them whos boss

[azure junco]

and now i am poor

[timid tartan]

[lucid loom]

this is how we shift the power tides

[lapis tide]

congrats on databricks

[lucid loom]

become a landlord stop being a stupid tenant

[azure junco]

i actually got perfect on the databricks oa and then got ghosted

[lapis tide]

1. databricks dont care about oa

[lucid loom]

lol i didnt even get the oa

[azure junco]

[lapis tide]

2. wtf you aced gca?

[azure junco]

yeah

600

/600

[lucid loom]

gca is kinda chill ngl

[drifting shore]

gca is useless

[lapis tide]

yeah coin toss on q4 though

[lucid loom]

but w gpt gca is useless

q4 is the only one ye