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how can node.js be used for backend
😲😲
aws and gcp had outages as well in teh past year
Yes, but AWS has better support
pragmatic engineer dude wrote a article about all them and how they handled the communication part
and post mortem as well
azure post mortems were the best apparently
idk how their support was
I haven't read the article I'm speaking from experience
how often had azure had outages for you
isnt the min sla like 99.95%
Often enough lol
They also just had weird issues
what kinda issues
hmm
Weird ones
can u be more specific
No
why u like this
u were vague before as well
a month back
article linked above explains it. basically next.js but if web api's were preserved
why u say nextjs is trash
its beautiful
at least without the app router mess
It's company specific stufff
You're an angul fan and called next trash
azure having issues isnt top secret info
I meant the weird issues
Is specific to my company
so ur real beef is with react
if ur company had it others had it as well
bet theres a github issue about it
Nah they didn't lol
You dislike it because its open source?
unless u work for the fbi ur company wont find out nor care about u sharing some obscure azure issue
I'm not gonna share it lol, so drop it
so freedom = bad?
ok mr.I'm so scared my company will get me
have u used sveltekit
blows everything out of the water
(jk I like svelte better though)
J one channel for all their other cloud providers
check out bugbytes and his intro series on sveltekit the syntax is minimal and clean
how u know
Idk, a lot of complex applications are built with React
why so? state management becomes an issue? use a library like valtio then. context api is garbo
htmx is the way to go 
whys it take so much time to figure out
Ehhh
Idk if HTMX works for every application
I dont know it too well but the code was straightforward when I had to work with angular
I think it should be used more though
do u work at databricks
@echo latch why do u react like a zoomer instead of answering
the absolute state of zoomers
@analog current how many yoe u got
He is a zoomer
You shouldn't use people's generation as a comment
20mos sheesh
im a zoomer also
forgot this was cscareers and not csmajors
Oh I'm a millenial
u are uoft? arent they only 12 or 16 months
oh so u did 4 month interhisp on top of that
u graduating in april?
ic ic
riperoni
where u get those leads from
they key to getting a job is hitting up ur friends for referrals or setting up a call with alumni to learn their lessons. then asking for referral
u edleted ur message I didnt see was typing can u repost
whou talking to
the person who deleted
I remember ur discord
Profile
From like 2 yrs ago we
How do u know @analog current
philipsman
how u remebmer me from 2 years ago
huh
Did u take Mat 157?
Cuz of ur pfp
ah, nope
oh wow how was it? I'm applying to post secondary soon
it is like the streets of my home country, india
full of shit
@vivid fiber ayo ban this man
??
Why?
@vivid fiber this 😢
never coming back home🙁
Nah
You're trying to get this man banned for spitting facts?
wtf
?
that's pretty racist lol
How?
Ok I see
it is a remark that people almost always make to be racist towards india/indians
so it's quite clear it's racist
doesn't matter if it comes from an indian
Well no country is perfect
Even Canada has its own issues
The situation in India can definitely be improved upon
are you from India
yea it can be imiproved on but doesnt mean someone makes that remark
No I'm from China but I have friends from India
I love India and Indian food
If I say the CCP is authoritative and communist does that make me racist?
no it doesn't because that's a fact
saying that "India's streets are full of shit"
is extremely insulting
and racist
and completely false
the place I live in India is cleaner than most places in Canada I've been too
possibly every place
ok so u were offended cus u live there
i live in toronto
learn to take a joke man ur indian also u should get the joke
it's not a joke
insulting an entire country isn't a joke lol
whats ur favorite indian food
chicken masala is pretty good as well
What about Jalebi?
Tesher made them popular
He's from Regina, SK
Where I was from
i never tried jalebi yet tbh
Nope
Never tried it before
I've tried the Gulab Jamun though
I'm not a big fan of it either
Too sweet for me
ah yes gulab jamun is delicious but its v sweet
oh lol
breh lol
im caucasian :3
I see
You know more about Indian food than most Caucasians lol
ya indian curies r nice tho
its because i have indian friends n dey inteoduce me to the food n it was like cocaine for me
i could become vegetarian easy peasy in india
Ok imma go and boil some dumplings
like american food
new orleans food is pre good, does that count as western
France and Italy have the best European food
love gumbos
defo
i ate beef tartar everyday at paris
it was cocaine
wtf is apple snails
It's a type of snail
like what dish
It tastes pretty good
uses apple snails
It's really meaty
I usually stir fry it with chili
Is it a chinese food
Yeah
interesting
I think Vietnamese people eat it too
im going to china next year so ill keep an eye out
yaa viet eat snails
they just eaat steamed snails or eat with their noodles tho
i like escargot more
They taste like aquatic chicken
No not yet
I wanna try bullfrog hotpot when I visit china
haahaha dats so specific
I watch a lot of food shows and documentaries
I like Trevor James
Tai Hao Le
lol
It means super good
Chinese food is the best
yaa
I love Chinese food
so many diff types of food
I only cook Chinese food at home
r u chinese
nice 🙂
I came to Canada when I was 9 and a half
my fVorite artist is jay chou
I forgot how to write
bruh hahah all good
I don't listen to too many chinese singers nowadays
I like listening to rap music
I have heard of him b4
ur grandpa provs know
He's pretty famous
probs
For sure
:3
You go to university in Canada?
yes
Same
yaa wouldnt be suprised
I hate working for the gov't
It's so boring and slow
I fell asleep on the job like twice lol
LMAO
My manager wasn't too happy to say the least
u slept in office?
LOL
At my desk
Bruhhhh hahahagag
lmao
dont china have afternoon naps
There's no way I'm working for the gov't again
i wish we have that here
at least not until when I'm in my 40s or 50s
atleast its recesion proof
yaa fair
not sure
probably not
they will fire you for taking a nap probably
China has 996 work culture
anyways am gonna sleep, why r u awake at 330

my sleep schedule is so friged rn
aight, goodnight 
u2
ur blocked
Lmao same I blocked that person too
j resume reveal
True this guy passes everything known to man
yeah dude im so curious lmao
What is average new grad salary in Canada?
Around 70k
shatafa
feels like sandpaper now holy udkc
Change your gender to a girl
why?
whats ur background?
Maybe use a bidet next time
i thought it was fart
Day to night to morning, keep with me in the moment
I'd let you had I known it, why don't you say so?
Didn't even notice, no punches left to roll with
You got to keep me focused, you want it, say so
Day to night to morning, keep with me in the moment
I'd let you had I known it, why don't you say so?
Didn't even notice, no punches left to roll with
You got to keep me focused, you want it, say so
ask @abstract tree
💀
good morning sirs
can't stop thinking about how indian people just spam good morning gifs and images to each other every morning to frens and family that whatsapp servers were like at their limit ever 09:00 indian standard time and zuck was out his depth on how to solve it efficiently kek
good morrnigng sir !
is this yr objectively more difficult than previous years or what
yes
for ng or intern
intern
not really for intern
No it’s also way harder for interns
imho its harder than last yr
idk intern looks pretty fine most companies that hire interns are still hiring and ppl I know recruiting for internship alr have offers for like 2 seasons in 2024 😭
Most are hiring a fraction of how many they normally do
well its harder, but not way harder
intern is less of an investment for companies and they are more willing to do it even in this market
Last year with less experience I applied to 130 places and got 20 interviews, this year with FAANG on my resume I applied to 430 and got 6 interviews
It’s objectively much much harder this year
yup
Also something to consider abt interns VS new grad
New grad Canadians can work on a TN, interns need a J1
Companies are farrrr more likely to sponsor on TN (it’s barely a hassle) vs J1
well I got similar amount of interviews with and without FAANG on my resume with intern applications last year and this year
and a lot of people I know are able to get internships lined up together while more than 70% of people aren't gonna be graduating with a job
u can say its about 150% harder for interns and 500% harder for new grads
ru from loo?
no, uoft
hmm
Maybe it’s person dependent then but all my new grad friends have multiple offers
But everyone I know recruiting for internships is struggling
ye
A ton of ppl who were supposed to be graduating decided to extend a year and intern more to hopefully get ROs
I was gonna graduate without one if I didn't get my RO lol
Damn well congrats man that’s sick
I hope the market is better next year but
Part of me thinks this might not be a short term problem
idk if lowering rates gon put labour markets back
probably middle - late 2025
yea
Yeah likely a bit
But something ppl have to get used to is it’s gonna be much harder than 2018-2022
tbh
It’s just soooo oversaturated now
2020-2022 was unusual
so ez to find internships rn, easier than 2018-2019
(a good reason why new grad is hard is due to the lay offs)
wth
^
why hire new grads when you can hire people with 5+ experience for entry level pay?
Yeah no that makes sense
yup
Def will help a bit
But also CS is becoming oversaturated and we need to be prepared for the fact that competition is increasing
intern feels a looot harder for me personally this year
idk abt loo or uoft
Both intern and new grad are tougher this year
but a lot of my friends at ivey & uwo struggling for internships
Although new grad seems to be doing worse
new grad is waaay worse, but I think intern is hard too
seems like only ones got offer are from big4 (deloitte)
this
Yes
its ok no point thinking about how bad it is, we should all just keep trying and I wish you all good luck
last year I was choosing between multople offers, this year those same companies won't even pass me for res screen 😭
what companies?
ghosted by cisco : )
Most of the companies I got offers from last year aren't even hiring new grad this year...
shitco
they dont even respond tho
but yeah, anecdotal ofc
tbh I know some other industries are still doing fine
think finance is fine
I helped my gf apply for 2 weeks and she got 6 interviews and an offer
petro great
dayum
what industry shes in?
kitchen cabinets
No lets think harder
CAD Technician
Skilled labor is in demand rn
yup
o my gf does something similar
she does archieture tho for landscapes
Even years ago cad technician was an actual career
Its not hard
its just softlanding they waiting for
switch your major to stats
even worse ig
lol
I got a few friends whos stats major looking for data analyst/scientists and no job as well
yea thats even harder
data analyst sounds way harder to land a job
gotta compete with post-grad ppl 😭
Sadge
thats me mb
I will get to ur instacart order fast
do yall do anything to earn some quick money
I am jobless for 2.5 months I need to earn some money
Does taking out loans count?
nope
Tutoring is quite nice for short-term income
probs cant even get an instacart job cuz of the waitlist
Especially if you’re a recent grad
done that
research at uni was okay tho
tutored for chinese students at uoft
if u get funding u can buy laptop or smt related to work
How badly do you need money short-term?
If you can get by until your first paycheck
Maybe invest the time into building a long-term passive income source?
maybe apply for internships that accept people that have graduated, and look for FT in the meanwhile
I have FT just not starting that soon
anyone interviewed with Plotly for swe intern?
yea
thats crazy cuz you cook for urself lmao
probs nothing for dec, probs more canadian roles in Jan
Yeah signed mine for winter
damn thats good bro
Still debating summer idk
Thanks man, it was a grind I can’t even explain how much lmao
Happy to be at least a bit done
yea
You looking for summer still?
Many Canadian companies open in jan
So don’t stress
yea signed previous one in feb last yr so ig should wait
Yeah you got this dw
Plus you can also do NG recruit starting July
So you have lots of time and options
dec 2024
but I've got some
McDonald's and Uber Eats are always hiring
But not for SWE though
😢
I don't want to work a shitty min-wage job cuz the experience is useless
Nobody cares if you're a dishwasher or cook at a restaurant
I'd rather get an unpaid internship instead
i get it, but i was about to just to survive, and in the mean time build skills
a job is a job tbh
ig
exactly
beggars can't be choosers
and work on some freelance stuff
like if u need a job to survive you gotta do it, humbles you a bit
nahhh
Only if you work with hot female coworkers
But once they know that you're studying CS they will lose interest immediately
Huh??
I'm joking
why are you joking
I don't wanna get cancelled
🤣
You guys need to have a sense of humour
Stop doing leet code all day and go touch grass
I touch the most grass in here
@abstract tree agreed
We are the only people with a sense of humour in here
I should just drop out and become a comedian instead
@ mod
@ mod
I need hacker protection
How does bro enjoy stats
CS majors keep hacking me
by grass you mean yourself
stats is love stats is life ❤️
I do have a lot of "grass" on me
if you know what I mean
Yeah
weed is legal in Canada
what do you mean by that
Will this help me enjoy stats
canada's economy is so bad that you can't even make money from selling weed anymore
yes it will help you numb the pain
lmfao
Bro clicked on porn and got hacked on disc 😭
gotta sell more lucrative drugs then
I moved to cocaine 2 years ago
I blame it on CS majors cuz they know how to hack
You guys almost ruined my life
Thankfully I don't have any nudes of myself on discord
you can tell someones a zoomer when they start their sentences with "bro"
these zoomers lack the ability to have their own style
they are like the same robot
I would double check that
wdym?
AI generated nudes don't count
CS majors are robots studying CS to beat robots
Dear my fellow compatriot of the computing science discipline, I apologize for not having the adequate vernacular to engage in an intellectual discussion with you.
git gud kid
I'm sorry bro
bot reply?

I sent a long ass msg to a recruiter this is what I got
after applying to the job*
I cant
that's why I'm in stats lol
why are you even in cscareer server 
Cuz I want to get a tech job
DA or BA
Are you even getting good amount of OAs and/or technical interviews tho? I haven’t done any leetcode since the summer and it def wont help me rn since the hardest part is just passing the screenings
best to still regularly do it, cuz when you do get that one technical and end up not able to pass it, it would feel real bad 😭
true but I like the green pass result on leetcode can't sleep without seeing it
cuz you only need one app to get an offer, shouldn't chance it
applied to ibm 10secs after the job went live scores 100% on hackkerank still waiting t hear back 
I missed a 80k being an ahole
job*
not gonna take chances anymore
Ya I wasnt gonna apply to SAP again cuz I got ghosted 3x before for the same position but I got a phone screen this time
Even if it's 1% chance gotta take it
good luck! which team is it for?
ah cool, hana interview is kinda random though. Hard to say what they will ask :P
Yeah I had my screen already, 15 questions
I don't think I'll move on tho, my C++ was very rusty
But we still 
theres always a chance
Yes 
💀
like trivia?
Ya questions on OOP, TCP, data structures, C++ etc
just tcp?
did they dig deeper? or just basic outline trivia
I'm asking q as if I got a SAP screen lined up tomorrow
Gl 
Gl 
brah
wtf
bing rude af
can I sue bing?
only way for me to become a millionaire 

I asked it to help me understand something .... sends me this
Did you see that 😂
Ain’t no way
basic trivia
I'm going into business
I'm planning to apply to business analyst positions
or basically anything that has the word "analyst" in it
I will probably transition to tech once I get my foot in the door
What kind of money is needed to live comfortably in Toronto?
2
what are you on
my macbook?
drugs
i guess if youre saving fairly aggressively for retirement
It depends on the person I guess
Some people want to live more luxuriously than others
Comfortably will be more than 100k
@abstract tree this man living eh
@wet crown stop pinging
My friend who lives in Ottawa and works as an electrical engineer on a 70k salary says he is basically living paycheck to paycheck
That was before he moved in with his gf
I can only imagine that it's worse in Toronto
Even Calgary is becoming very expensive now
Rent is very expensive
im making 55k a year equivalent and could definitely live off of that in ottawa
it would be tight
but meh
43 after taxes
damn you must be frugal
its the same for GTA suburbs dang
No he lives in an apartment with his gf
when he lived on his own with a 70k salary he told me that he was living paycheck to paycheck
IDK about his living situation now
I'm not really nosey about other people's financial situation
ye
We're basically data janitors
True that
stats can get you every CS job
and CS can get you every stats job
It's easier to get a stats job with a CS degree than the other way around
I talked to the vice president of Visa the other day and she told me she pretty much only hires CS master's graduates
She has a master's in stats
no it's not
pretty much why I'm doing a CS major and Math + Stats double minor
but
i think stats Gods can get anywhere
my friend graduated with a stats degree from UBC and he worked as an SDE for Amazon for almost 2 years
including the AWS internship
There will always be exception and outliers
Dude you don't need to have a CS degree to work at FAANG
It's preferred but not necessary at all
I've seen people with math and physics degrees at FAANG too
what if I get history major with cs side projects?
pleaste tell me you got an offer
becasue if u havent
its joever for all of us
fkkk how long has it been
ik its been a few months
@stable ravine hook this man up
I got starbucks
18$ /hr
congrats on starbucks
send starbucks giftcard
hope they gime one for winter holidays
but I get x2 drinks free every day
ok blud
at this point just create time machine
are u shotguning any companies
wait you actually working at starbucks with @abstract tree ?
back to 2020
CS spec + math/stats double minor*
but no one knows what a CS spec is
toxic?
oh dang you know Crusader and peter
I heard that in startups there'll be micro management
spec is basically two majors in CS lol
yea
do you get paid for the hr?
now is time!?
I do!!!!
is the UofT history program good?
for faang yeah
The department she works at only hires people with master's degrees in CS since they can code better than other majors
you work 80hrs per week on a monthly pay role?
Ye
send screenshot of payrool or cap
Im already ..
just doing 6hrs per week
ive heard u get worse treatment in mcdonalds
depends on your manager
I work for my uni
no people in general
i guess I'm lucky
why would I lol
chat is scrolling so fast rn wtf
i love u killua, it will be better we will make it
I hope so it's either rope or offer
Idk how long I can survive
It's probably a good idea to get a master's degree in CS if you can't find a job upon graduation
wym
You'll end up in a different market when you graduate
no the other guy said it's less attractive
and your starting salary would be higher
what if the interest rate is 9% on 2025
starbucks barista isn't easy to get tbh
Some positions in tech only hires people with a Master's
nah you just have to remember all the drinks it might be overwhelming
but then its easy you'll learn eventually
CS master's is by far the best master's degree you can get
for SWE and DS
yeah
probably not
i mean you learn the same on the ms degree. I won't recommend a master's degree unless you're doing a thesis
many government positions also prefer master's graduates though
what about history ms?
or you can transition to MLE or DS after some years of SWE exp
cs history*
do you get to learn that cr7 conquered europe?
messi owns you
I heard it's like 4-5 years of exp
what you gonna do with cs history
lol

isn't it better to just get cs degree?
not many people know about that route
?? no I'm applying to unis for undergrad
analyst like in deloitte ...?
mfs resume rejected me
I applied to sap and deloitte got resume rejected ...
It hurts to know that ppl who couldn't code 3sums are in zon ....
while I get resume rejected by deloitte
hmm Idk I can't comment on their technical skills but I'm p sure their dsa skills is p bad
When you work at zon you become another cog in the machine and when you get pipped you become another statistic
no imr efering to the laid off amazon people
recenltly

for now...
idk what will happen janaruy 2024
zon?
wdym
how 2 escape crud
nah, I would like to keep it confidential 🙂

marry a sugar mommy
massive job surge
get good at math or stats and go into DS/MLE
killua says the opposite
or joe biden
Canada
bro iw as gonna aply to US roles next year
but market tooka dump
don't tell me 2020-2021 was not a surge
2024 will be massiver
I would die to work for zon
@idle plover

just go on a vacation
nope take out student loans
Work there for 1-2 years and then move on to a better company
bro gives free job
give out ur jane street referal
@idle plover can you bless with referral ❤️, according to @stable ravine
at this point it might be worth doing a business undergrad cause of jobs
where r jops to steal
RBC is the Jane Street of Canada
I never had luck with any of the big 5
ng?
yeah
TD said they won't be hiring new grads for couple of years
ye
If i can get a finance/banking job there
you're stats major?
and?
no just asking if you're doing stats
yes i am
time to learn mandarin .... most of the t50 schools are chinese
china is taking over
I think China passport is hard to get though no?
No idea
are you Chinese?
yes then it'll be very hard
even if I marry a abg?
wtf is this no
what's abg?
hey :3
I want to work for you
fake af
Give me a job pls
wanna work for free?
Sure
i can give you job at startup
No I want to work for Pepsi lol
pepsico is a startup
coke is better
🙂
lol wut
didnt he get fined for this or smth
idk not much ig but cola's stock reduced a bit that day
UEFA is threatening to fine teams if players continue removing product placements during press conferences at Euro 2020.
It was a funny moment for everyone but Coca-Cola, a tournament sponsor, who saw their stock fall by 1.6% by the end of the press conference, representing a $4 billion loss in market value according to The Athletic
Pepsi has Flamin' Hot Cheetos though
this dude knows whats up
pepsi literally owns lays

can't beat that
also pepsi solves racial divisions who could forget
you all cocacola stans are literally supporting racism for not drinking pepsi don't @ me
Old Dutch is better
Actually, only for certain flavours
you're despicable
Miss Vickie's are the best
racist
hands down
miss vickie's 💯
Has anyone done pair programming for clio before?
Anyone know the interview process for lyft? I looked online and couldn’t find much
hi
congrats
have you tried applying?
have u tried embracing the baki hanma spirit? just walk into the offices and beat them into an offer
Congrats on plotly
ngmi
I’m still doing work on a Friday night cuz had to do interview during the day 😭
Getting drinks dt wit the friend group
Better than spamming apply to job boards everyday
rebel? 5th social?
bros loaded
im broke so i always pre hard
3 technical rounds
nah i havent
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