was it dec/jan for canada?
#canada
strange jay
zenith eagle
what skool do u attend @strange jay
paper ether
was it dec/jan for canada?
yes
strange jay
what skool do u attend <@892573791912357929>
uwo
paper ether
dec-feb
zenith eagle
i would kill to have attended uwo/queens
paper ether
queens is shit btw
strange jay
i would kill to have attended uwo/queens
?
zenith eagle
declined fat scholarships to go to fucking uoft
paper ether
queens computing is so bad
zenith eagle
biggst mistake of my life
who cares i'm just in skool for the degree my actual learning has been outside of school
paper ether
id rather go to queens than western tho
strange jay
if not ivey then yea
paper ether
im biased af
strange jay
lol from ottawa i understand
paper ether
im in kingston every 2 weeks and i like it a lot
ive also been to london a few times i hate it there
its like smaller ottawa
oblique crater
i heard Kingston is kinda sketchy no?
strange jay
better than london
zenith eagle
what cities in canada are good for young people for ng?
zenith eagle
ideally very young populace and good nightlife so i can mayhaps get a gf
zenith eagle
mtl taxes thoooo
paper ether
still affordable
zenith eagle
je voudrais une quebecoise blonde
paper ether
LMFAO
no, have a friend who transferred from carleton to queens, says its sooo easy and dont learn much
paper ether
ah facts
oblique crater
what cities in canada are good for young people for ng?
calgary and montreal
zenith eagle
literally garbage
paper ether
yeah so ass
carleton >>>>>
i actually think its a good school, originally i was just gonna do first year and transfer to concordia but the education is quite good
also super easy to be a TA in CS or math
zenith eagle
fuck being a ta
paper ether
i love it
paper ether
i TA for discrete 2
zenith eagle
lot of slackers here ngl
paper ether
no one bothers me
oh ya like the bad thing about carleton is like 10% are actually motivated to do anything
eternal fossil
we just critiquing a legend and he not even in here
but tbh i feel like he cant convert the internships into FT because maybe some flaw in him
because how do you do so many internships and nobody wants you back
ibm loves their interns, they always want you back
also rbc is one place where you also just convert to ft
100%
blackberry is more practical shit that you can do
but even then not a big name
opentext was the dub he shouldve stayed at
idk bruh i had 2 internships and both internships wanted me back
my man did 7
and you cant tell me nobody wanted him back
thats crazy bad odds
zenith eagle
brah no ng roles in canada
zenith eagle
we just critiquing a legend and he not even in here
who is this mans
ibm so chill brah
eternal fossil
ibm so chill brah
right???
i know so many interns that literally converted to ft at ibm
one way to absolutely shit the bed at ibm is to be super unlikable
you can sleep at your desk and do work for 2 hours and still convert to ft
and get a ng salary of like 90k
zenith eagle
my ex roomie literally does nothing all day
wakes up for standup
and then sleeps
gets hi work done at 2am
and then is chilling
eternal fossil
exactly
i did the same at blackberry
woke up for my stand up and napped till afternoon
did my work and still was wanted
stable ravine
eternal fossil
ryerson KEK
stable ravine
wtf is vp doin at ng posting
eternal fossil
LOL
zenith eagle
i'm literally appyin to that rn
tmu sounds so much cooler than ryerson
also i know this one tmu kid who is now at hrt for ng
analog current
why the fuck does this proggramer keep asking me if ik "raspberry pi"
zenith eagle
skool doens't matter
analog current
this guy a dumnass
eternal fossil
also i know this one tmu kid who is now at hrt for ng
yeah blackberry got me interviews and hrt citadel robinhood etc
zenith eagle
u can be a 🐐 regardless of school
stable ravine
i missed drop deadline by a day
tell them you got covid ... would it work?
zenith eagle
ru u ng @eternal fossil
weak gazelle
u can be a 🐐 regardless of school
its more about 🐐 density
stable ravine
ru u ng <@457023761754095628>
bro is expired grad
tough knot
tell them you got covid ... would it work?
i doubt, but i did put in I was sick for the past week
eternal fossil
expired grad
tough knot
I tried to email
zenith eagle
tbf avg loo kid chad comes from a family with family income of 200k+ if u look at the stats
stable ravine
I tried to email
tell them you were dead sick and was near to coma
rain delta
expired grad
hi how is the job search
tough knot
tell them you were dead sick and was near to coma
lmfaso
eternal fossil
hi how is the job search
it was better earlier this year
got tiktok OA so prepping for that
stable ravine
hi how is the job search
search results 0 
zenith eagle
u might get lucky with the practise oa being the same q on the actual oa
worldly ridge
tbf avg loo kid chad comes from a family with family income of 200k+ if u look a...
dangg where did u foind this info
zenith eagle
dangg where did u foind this info
loo classes publish a survey every year
candid oxide
I’m a first gen college student at loo 
worldly ridge
they could also be buisness owners
worldly ridge
300k is peanuts
stable ravine
sde3*
zenith eagle
mfers with a "prefer not a disclose"
worldly ridge
@analog current ur parents would defo skew the average numbers
zenith eagle
i bet they were larping that they were broke
candid oxide
can’t have any holes
zenith eagle
avoiding cra
yeah man growing up i only had a macbook air instead of a pro my parents were broke
candid oxide
wat
zenith eagle
loo kids saying they come from poor families lol
candid oxide
my parents r literally straight from the village
zenith eagle
i wen to a hackathon at look back in the day and it was such a meme
candid oxide
unironically
zenith eagle
not saying u
zenith eagle
this one kid wouldn't team up with me at htn cuz i didn't have a mac lmao
zenith eagle
loo kids were something else
candid oxide
can i marry you
only if I get all ur money
zenith eagle
only time i ever heard kids say sophomore was at loo
weak gazelle
candid oxide
My WSL always mem leakex
zenith eagle
mfers get one us coop and suddenly starts using "freshman sophomore junior senior" in canada
candid oxide
Leaked
zenith eagle
i had a linux computer
worldly ridge
shri u have a condo in waterfront
why do u act confused
u bought a condo in waterfront
zenith eagle
sory
weak gazelle
u bought a condo in waterfront
...
weak gazelle
u still at firefox?
no i completed 2 internships and dipped
worldly ridge
i bet u make half the TC of this channel
if u sell ur condo u make 10x then everyone here in TC
zenith eagle
would love to have us opportunities and pay but say in canada but alas
weak gazelle
i dont own a condo lmaoo
worldly ridge
CAP
weak gazelle
...
worldly ridge
...
zenith eagle
was he a theil fellow wtf?
also something specifc about loo kids yall assume us non loo kids know what the fuck a 3b or 4a is like just say 3rd or 4th year
fossil field
My place is 2500$ in toronto
but i split half with my gf
1br and 600 sqft tho
at least its a brand new building built last year
worldly ridge
at least its a brand new building built last year
that also means no rent contorl tho
weak gazelle
hmm
fossil field
if he tried to raise it i wouldnt pay it lmao
weak gazelle
what location in toronto
fossil field
right by kipling station
weak gazelle
that is a bit high
for 1 br
that far off from dt toronto
unless i don't know where kipling is
they're probably alreaedy overcharging u
fossil field
im like 15 min from dt with car
nah for sure its expensive asf for no reason
but i pay 600$ a month since my gf grandma rich and pays for half lol
fossil field
but no everywhere around here is the same
cheapest is 2000 for basement
and i dont want basement brah
worldly ridge
iso she single
fossil field
i tried trust me
weak gazelle
worldly ridge
my parents are oil bnarons
fossil field
i can barely make rent this next month
worldly ridge
barons
fossil field
im begging for jobs
worldly ridge
oo r u ng?
fossil field
ive literally been walking into stores and stuff giving my resume begging for job and still no call back for 2 months
yea
my internship this summer didnt take me in cause they wasted their budget
so im fucked basically
worldly ridge
😦
weak gazelle
ive literally been walking into stores and stuff giving my resume begging for jo...
you can try looking into stuff like taskrabbit
worldly ridge
weak gazelle
is it good?
i've seen movers make like 200k a year with that lol
you're gonna need to start slow obv
fossil field
i need something gauranteed
stable ravine
Coding on leetcode
lapis tide
i dont own a condo lmaoo
Ok blud
rigid fulcrum
anyone here hear anything from capital one new grad in canada? I had a referral and did the oa a couple of weeks ago and did well enough on it, but i feel like I've been ghosted 😢
zenith eagle
anyone here hear anything from capital one new grad in canada? I had a referral ...
i haven't heard anyone in canada getting a call back past oa
rigid fulcrum
excellent they've ghosted everyone >:)
rigid fulcrum
mostly im seeing internships only
and then what i assume is for america
in this group
rigid fulcrum
https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/944275043863625728/1167495631577...
ah ok thanks that looks pretty definitive
ah well guess ill just keep being unemployed
muted bluff
ppl applied to ibm: how far did u guys go
i got email for some screening questions but never got back to me
muted bluff
lol i didn't even get the oa, HR just emailed me some screening questions
fossil field
Any recent new grad here who got a job recently? Would really appreciate some advice
muted bluff
Any recent new grad here who got a job recently? Would really appreciate some ad...
i wish🥲
rigid fulcrum
ive applied so much and have gotten literally no response im so fried
stable ravine
Any recent new grad here who got a job recently? Would really appreciate some ad...
If anyone got a job it's mostly luck + rolling based offer
Or RO
💀
muted bluff
rip
fossil field
ive applied so much and have gotten literally no response im so fried
Yea literally no response for 3 months now
stable ravine
Yea literally no response for 3 months now
It's so depressing 😢
storm stream
Any recent new grad here who got a job recently? Would really appreciate some ad...
welcome to the hell that is canada
muted bluff
ive heard some ppl saying the market will get better next year but also someone told me this morning that next year will be worse
seems like i'll stay unemployed until 2025
simple python
no one knows bro
storm stream
ive heard some ppl saying the market will get better next year but also someone ...
sounds like it's 50/50
stable ravine
ive heard some ppl saying the market will get better next year but also someone ...
We'll never know. Only time will tell
muted bluff
lmao i wish i could stay positive but literarlly i see no hope
fossil field
It will get better by next year
storm stream
have a plan B for resume gap
fossil field
but its hell right now
storm stream
that's my advice as 2023 grad
stable ravine
have a plan B for resume gap
Like?
stable ravine
🥲🥲
muted bluff
i looked at gov canada job bank but that also looks depressing lol
depressing and sketchy
fossil field
Nah thats fuck
fake*
companies post on their just to hit numbers but its fake postings
rigid fulcrum
all i want is an opportunity to fail an interview
that would be a big milestone
ya they aint great but it is what it is now
i mean eventually i probably will
im already old i dont wanna be 30 before i get my first job
lmao
fossil field
i got 2 and still nothing, My dads also a 30 year software engineer and he cant get me anything with connections
Im literally talking to a managing director at a fintech ai company and hes been giving me referrals and even thats tough
fossil field
major scam
storm stream
the current meta is make 60k until you inherit a home at 50 y/o
fossil field
got 10 yoe competeing for new grad/entry level roles
storm stream
💀
rigid fulcrum
its defs getting worse :/
canada keeps importing junior tech ppl too
so we get squeezed out
fossil field
yea ^
boreal sentinel
gen z is the most fucked gen
weak gazelle
it's not much better in the US for entry level
oblique crater
manual labor is the new tech
fossil field
US is wayyy better even though its shit, they got a lot more opportunities
oblique crater
brother go look at 2024 grad process
muted bluff
US is wayyy better even though its shit, they got a lot more opportunities
more competitive too
oblique crater
US is doing way better and pay hasn’t gone down a whole lot
fossil field
i hear way more new grads get jobs in us than canada
boreal sentinel
^
oblique crater
here people will beg for a 60k job
hallow sapphire
ive heard some ppl saying the market will get better next year but also someone ...
everyone says the same
fossil field
and they actually getting oa and interviews
hallow sapphire
it's just copin
boreal sentinel
begging 60k in hcol
hallow sapphire
try ur best to get a job period
boreal sentinel
only happens in canada
u can walk into some midwest place and demand a 90k it role
oblique crater
only happens in canada
you and the whole family working day in day out to afford that rent in the GTA burbs but it’s better than your shithole home country
the dream baby
rigid fulcrum
alright this was a good doomer session
rigid fulcrum
stay strong guys, eventually we'll all land a job and once we're in we can claw our way up from the shittiest job
fossil field
1000 apps in 2.5 months and 1 phonecall interview like wtf
storm stream
🫡
boreal sentinel
only 6 months left
stable ravine
no NG roles there too lol
Wdym
muted bluff
only 6 months left
till what
stable ravine
I can see 3-5 new postings every week
stable ravine
I can see 3-5 new postings every week
Ig it would be more. I didn't even search for them
fossil field
Who here has actually been getting interviews?
fickle lotus
no NG roles there too lol
Nah they have way more opportunities than us, even after adjusting for more CS grads
So many technology development/rotational programs on top of the usual big tech NG jobs
fossil field
i might be doing that soon
stable ravine
I'm graduation in 1 and half month. Still on stage 0
This
Did anyone hear back from bell ng?
worldly ridge
Did anyone hear back from bell ng?
yeah one of my friends secured an offer
he had like 6 internships though
fossil field
brah ur not gonna hear back shit from these big companies
they are only hiring internally and most of job postings are fake
stable ravine
yeah one of my friends secured an offer
Which stream 🥲
worldly ridge
Which stream 🥲
idk i forgot
stable ravine
Was it 2024 ng?
worldly ridge
2023 ng
he got the offer when tech was in downturn
but he had a lot of rejections as well
stable ravine
I thought it was for 2024 ng
stable ravine
2024 ng is gonna be booming
It's been 2 months since I applied
worldly ridge
:3
stable ravine
Met a bell sde at my uni career fair bro doesn't even know how docker works 💀
mystic crag
Anyone heard back from Arista Networks NG?
fossil field
why the fuck do they ask for creating an account and uploading a picture and cover letter for warehouse worker in toronto
WTF
mystic crag
Why would it be too early? It was posted months ago
hushed orbit
lost lark
sounds like it's 50/50
mystic crag
did he tell you the TC?
stable ravine
what was the job title? I just applied to it 2 days ago lol
wet crown
what was the job title? I just applied to it 2 days ago lol
alright as CTO you're hired
stable ravine
tf
teal remnant
🥜
mystic crag
Damn
I interned there in 2022 and I was about to sign a return offer for SDE back in august
but my manager said "sike" and told me the hiring team was more comfortable issuing the offer in january bc I graduate in may
analog current
i listen to california dreaming slowed while imagining myself being a billionaire
mystic crag
I think they were afraid I might reneg if I got other offers before may... little do they know
Checks out. My manager told me the average offer for low tier engineers in their first year is like 100K base, 10k bonus, 10k stocks which are booming rn
yeah
fickle lotus
I can get a referral for Arista from my friend for their Software Engineer positions but don't see the point, my C/C++ knowledge is incredibly basic
mystic crag
They also have front end positions but not this year ig
fickle lotus
Last year they had Associate positions that were 0 YOE I would've felt comfortable applying for but none this year :/
mystic crag
What team is he in? They have a lot of hc in general tbh so not too worried
so you mfs better not apply until I sign back
they are growing crazy fast cuz of AI boom
fickle lotus
they're coming SFU career fair next week so I'll talk to them then
just wanna know hm C/C++ knowledge they're looking for
fickle lotus
yeah my friend told me, he had LC mediums in C++
My distributed systems course was in C++ but I've been doing LC for so long in Java
Can't even remember the last time I touched low-level stuff
mystic crag
@analog current when is your friend graduating and when is his start date?
earnest mortar
My distributed systems course was in C++ but I've been doing LC for so long in J...
left plover
what the fuck
mystic crag
Also 160K is not guaranteed. Some of it is bonus so it depends on performance but yeah it can go way up. Is your friend assuming he'll make 50K bonus?
fossil field
ive been calling temp agencies all day, no one has any fucking jobs. What do i do
kill myself?
mystic crag
damn ok that's pretty good then. Although he is getting in at all time high price valuations so beware
fossil field
i cant
that what i m saying
ive been giving my resume and everything
mcdonalds only hiring indians and internationals around me
wish i could get mcdonalds job
dapper thorn
Anyone heard back from Arista Networks NG?
Yea applied like mid/late September, recruiter reached out mid October and wanted to move me on to technical, but for NG they said 3.7+ CGPA and I had Like a 3.3, she said she’d try to make a case to the hiiring people since I was an Eng major but they told me to fuck off. She said you could do technical in C or C++, the job was also 90% C++ and like 10% python
1 hour technical/behaviour , then another 2 hour technical/behavioural after that
stable ravine
how hard was the technical
dapper thorn
Nah I didn’t get moved on cuz my gpa but that’s what she told me lol
@stable ravine
I asked someone in here about it tho they said it was fucked up tho
dapper thorn
Loll
dapper thorn
imagine doing dsa with c++ <:dogesmile:922937091195797514>
Prolly Not as bad as the one I had to do in JavaScript 😭
I don’t even live in van so wasn’t too bummed out
stable ravine
I just remember applying to confleunt. did anyone hear back?
slow warren
paper ether
ngl
44k a year POG
didnt get return from RBC? These are all good companies tbh
his res should be 1 page just pretend he didnt do those 1st 3
honest tulip
Who did the tiktok oa this week
candid oxide
I just remember applying to confleunt. did anyone hear back?
Friend heard back right when posting was made, recruiter reached out
wet crown
imagine doing dsa with c++ <:dogesmile:922937091195797514>
CTO moves eh
mint gorge
Yea applied like mid/late September, recruiter reached out mid October and wante...
damn are more and more companies locking people out using gpa
dapper thorn
damn are more and more companies locking people out using gpa
This is the first I’ve heard of it for an NG position so not exactly sure
eternal fossil
I'm graduation in 1 and half month. Still on stage 0
dont be expired bro
normal jetty
damn bruh
the whole canada channel reviewed his resume
and hes not even in this server
hallow sapphire
Nah I agree
It’s p bad in my experiences
Feels like shooting a bullet in the air hopping it hits a bullseye
wet crown
being a CTO is boring
it's better than being broke 😭
eternal fossil
and hes not even in this server
bro got peer reviewed
worldly ridge
do u get discoutns if u work for AMD
like for GPUs
who can give me their discoutn code, i need one
stable ravine
like for GPUs
idk brah do you get free items if you work for zon?
stable ravine
i work at jane street
I trust you big bro
fallen mason
What does this mean: "Must obtain work authorization in country of employment at the time of hire, and maintain ongoing work authorization during employment"
- this is meta
does this mean they don't sponsor
stable ravine
What does this mean: "Must obtain work authorization in country of employment at...
ig so
stable ravine
sleep lil bro
wet crown
sleep lil bro
easy for you to say. With a nice cozy bed as an employed CTO
lapis tide
does this mean they don't sponsor
i guess its vague but doesnt that just mean you need to get work auth
which would be obtained by their sponsorship
rain delta
I'm graduation in 1 and half month. Still on stage 0
can u delay grad?
fickle lotus
happy for you too
stable ravine
can u delay grad?
too late ;/
hallow sapphire
too late ;/
talk to dean
stable ravine
what anime is this from
HxH
fossil field
which would be obtained by their sponsorship
uh no. Says literally must have visa before they hire.
timid tartan
no one sponsors now
Canada moment 
timid tartan
What's ei
fossil field
i mean my last job was internship so who knows but like
employment insurance
unemployment
timid tartan
Oh lmao I see
fossil field
cause idk what to do anymore, i cant get a job at all
timid tartan
cause idk what to do anymore, i cant get a job at all
Are you a new grad?
timid tartan
yea
I can relate with your struggle lol the only one that's closest to an offer for me rn is the one where my intern manager opened a new grad position for me
Otherwise no luck for me either
Crazy market
timid tartan
2 months and 1000 apps in and not even getting replies
fossil field
and im actually a decent programmer too with good intern experience
fossil field
<:hugs:923819441949663293>
yea i needed that
not even connections helping me and my dad is a senior swe
timid tartan
and im actually a decent programmer too with good intern experience
Unfortunately in this market, resume + exp doesn't seem to help much
fossil field
does nothing, school name/network seems to be leader rn
timid tartan
not even connections helping me and my dad is a senior swe
Your dad can't help you get in his company? Or maybe your previous intern manager?
timid tartan
In my case, my intern manager invented a new grad position out of nowhere lol I still have no idea how it happened
fossil field
Im literally talking to like a managing director at a fintech ai company and been getting close with him
hes been trying to get me referrals but no luck even with that
timid tartan
fossil field
but i did get an interview at his company but it was quant finance engineer and they wanted masters and i messed up ever so slightley on the take home
fossil field
yea no not even minimum wage. Im begging for a minimum wage job but no one is hiring
i went to every store near me asking for a job and have like 100 retail resumes printed
timid tartan
i went to every store near me asking for a job and have like 100 retail resumes ...
I used to joke about this one but are you for real?
Like did you actually do that?
We're so fcked if that's true 
fossil field
yes.. I went to over 50 places yet to hear anything
i had a busboy interview and they just ghosted me after it
like id be a garbage man if i have to like im doing everything
i called up 100 temp agencies these past couple days and literally they have 0 jobs
fossil field
fr, debt payments are coming and im having to stop payment them
just applied to welfare and ei...
they would rather hire immigrants and say they are doing it for "equity"
help everyone but their own
Like you dont know what ive been doing. Ive been going up to random people who seem like they might own a business and asking for a job.
timid tartan
Like you dont know what ive been doing. Ive been going up to random people who s...
Holy shit
I'm so sorry man
timid tartan
they would rather hire immigrants and say they are doing it for "equity"
Yea I remember they opened a special visa to pull the H1B people in lmao that was extremely stupid
fossil field
LITERALLY
that definitly fucked a lot of shit up cause they all came to toronto
10,000 spots filled in 24 hours...
timid tartan
10,000 spots filled in 24 hours...
Yep as soon as I saw that I know we were gonna be so doomed
And yea here we are right now lmao
fossil field
yea i try and stay positive but its hard. No matter how hard I doom Im still not quiting, cause i really cant afford to
hot rapids
Have you tried applying to contract programming roles?
fossil field
yea but i can barely find them
wet crown
what anime is this from
Koe no Katachi
teal remnant
Hello @timid tartan
thick sinew
Anyone got invited to the wayfair meet and greet?
lost lark
Yea applied like mid/late September, recruiter reached out mid October and wante...
3.7 wtf
I thought GPA didnt matter
lost lark
yea i try and stay positive but its hard. No matter how hard I doom Im still not...
Worst case apply to a WITCH company
Are remote data analyst jobs still a thing
timid tartan
Hello <@471830714132725790>
zenith eagle
Unfortunately in this market, resume + exp doesn't seem to help much
i feel like in this company school name matters lot
zenith eagle
I just remember applying to confleunt. did anyone hear back?
i got recruiter reach out
did oa
scored perf excpet 2nd q i just missed one test case
literally one
and i got rejected
kek
i give up
i cant
do this
no more
like
tough knot
Are remote data analyst jobs still a thing
yeah
lost lark
Imma start applying to those just to kill time 💀
tough knot
Imma start applying to those just to kill time 💀
make sure you get to do dev work tho
tough knot
and i got rejected
rippp
timid tartan
i feel like in this company school name matters lot
Doesn't seem to be the case in my exp lol
timid tartan
i emailed her asking for feedback
Yea that's not gonna work out lol
It's extremely rare for recruiters / hiring panels to give feedback to candidates
zenith eagle
why don't they do idk
literally would make the string of rejections so much more bearable
timid tartan
I've never gotten any feedback except from a HubSpot recruiter who offered one but I didn't bother
She offered to schedule a call to discuss about my feedback but I was too burnt out to think about that
timid tartan
why don't they do idk
Maybe bcs of time?
Since you're in the early stage there could be thousands of students who took that OA
zenith eagle
this was recruiter reach out
weak gazelle
@timid tartan congrats on coinbase
zenith eagle
but also i've gone through 6 hours of interviews and gt rejected with a no reply email
weak gazelle
lost lark
make sure you get to do dev work tho
Maybe if i can transition into some DS work why not
😂😂😂
timid tartan
but also i've gone through 6 hours of interviews and gt rejected with a no reply...
🤣
That's what I've always gotten 99.9% of the time
tough knot
Maybe if i can transition into some DS work why not
Are you ‘27
lost lark
No
oblique crater
It's extremely rare for recruiters / hiring panels to give feedback to candidate...
the feedback can be spun to a discrimination lawsuit if it’s worded poorly and they don’t want to have to get a lawyer approving interview feedback for randoms they’re not even hiring
I can tell you right now recruiters have poor communication skills and most of the time the feedback will be “not the right fit for our team”
zenith eagle
I can tell you right now recruiters have poor communication skills and most of t...
hr speak and therapy speak is grating
just literally tell i was retarded and fucking stupid and i should fuck off
that would be so much more better than the sanitized HR speak i'm just suck of it
oblique crater
yeah otherwise they would communicate with me
rain delta
as i get older i realize the world is depressing
oblique crater
it’s really not, you need to turn your attention to the good things in life
timid tartan
the feedback can be spun to a discrimination lawsuit if it’s worded poorly and t...
Interesting
vernal sigil
as i get older i realize the world is depressing
U make 160k tc
timid tartan
as i get older i realize the world is depressing
It really is lol
As you get older, you'll realize that life is hard and harsh. We're all in a constant competition for limited resources on Earth
oblique crater
that's what makes everything taste sweeter
lapis tide
Ok mr 70x faang
timid tartan
that's what makes everything taste sweeter
rain delta
U make 160k tc
yeah but seeing others suffering, especially in this country with people unable to even get retail jobs with a cs degree, the war in ghana/israel and all the babies being kidnapped 😭
oblique crater
it's finite resources and finite time
oblique crater
just enjoy your time here, relieve this existential pressure and paradoxically that will unlock your potential more than worrying about this, sounds like im some woo woo guru but i think this information overload we're experiencing through technology has very little benefit
timid tartan
Adulting is rough ngl I'm only in my mid 20s and I can already feel the pressure
rain delta
yeah i feel like i was way more oblivious in my teens and thus had less worries
oblique crater
me too bro, i want things to go so right
timid tartan
yeah i feel like i was way more oblivious in my teens and thus had less worries
Me too lmaooo back in my early 20s I just went with the flow
oblique crater
what's mid twenties? 24-27?
timid tartan
what's mid twenties? 24-27?
Oh I guess I was referring to 25 lol
oblique crater
im 22 and I feel like i've aged 10 years since I graduated university
lapis tide
21
timid tartan
I'm gonna be 25 in a few months
rain delta
I'm gonna be 25 in a few months
same
lapis tide
Happy birthday!
oblique crater
25 is a good age
oblique crater
should be your prime
timid tartan
should be your prime
You mean prime depression?
rain delta
prime doing what though
timid tartan
rain delta
i feel like im already bored of life in general
oblique crater
prime health and experience seeking
go travel on a budget for a week it's very exciting at least for me
timid tartan
I mean yeah that's the age where you can go all in, work 996, take huge risks, etc
But at the same time the pressure is all on you
If you make it, great. If you don't make it, you'll be a disgrace to your entire inheritance and everybody will look on you lol
oblique crater
no one makes it in their twenties my dude
most people don't even get a big boy job until their late twenties, most of that professional success happens in the 30s
SWE is an exception that you can get a proper engineering high paying job right out of university
oblique crater
I said 20s, I made it in my 10s too
you either skip the mental issues or work through it
rain delta
apparently like 80% of people arent even self aware
lapis tide
What does that mean
fickle lotus
It means they don't know how to invert a binary tree
worldly ridge
yeah i feel like i was way more oblivious in my teens and thus had less worries
Good times
fossil field
Worst case apply to a WITCH company
are witch companies in canada?
eternal fossil
are witch companies in canada?
infosys one of them, idk i cant think of others rn
capgemini ?
jarvis consulting ?
lost lark
are witch companies in canada?
Infosys is i get emails from them all the time
oblique crater
FDM they're so bad they're not even witch
lapis tide
infosys one of them, idk i cant think of others rn
Rishi sunak shill
eternal fossil
Rishi sunak shill
Fuck that guy tbh
eternal fossil
FDM they're so bad they're not even witch
Fdm is the swe gulag
vapid jacinth
Who did the tiktok oa this week
heyJeff, can you check your dm!
fossil field
Got a call for an office administrative job
woohoo finally some progress in getting a job
still on that software eng job search grind tho
lost lark
Keep it up bro
fossil field
i travelled over 100km today going into dozens of stores asing for a job 😫
lost lark
As long as you doing something
fossil field
yea for sure i just want something im sick of being broke and at home all day
apprecaite the encourgement
lost lark
Whats the job tho like helpdesk yea
You can still move up the ranks in that so I wouldnt call that an L either
fossil field
Not really ranks it’s for a local solar panel company just phone inquiries
lost lark
Try ur best to network tho
fossil field
Yea that’s what I’ve been doing, aggressively
lost lark
I mean within the company
wet crown
i travelled over 100km today going into dozens of stores asing for a job 😫
@stable ravine help this guy out for a job
stable ravine
Worst case apply to a WITCH company
even witch doesn't have ng postings
thick sinew
Not yet LMAO
wet crown
even witch doesn't have ng postings
if you make a startup lmk
eternal fossil
timid tartan
canada channel -> ultimate dooming channel
It’s not even dooming bcs it’s happening in real time 
swift kernel
ive been calling temp agencies all day, no one has any fucking jobs. What do i d...
if you're really desperate: construction. get steel-toe boots, a hi vis and show up to a site
eternal fossil
canada channel -> ultimate dooming channel
biggest
i come here when i wanna be told we're all gonna work in the coal mines
swift kernel
i'm deadass
paper ether
yea
turbid crater
i come here when i wanna be told we're all gonna work in the coal mines
I worked in a petroleum greenfield before getting my internship
I had to embrace the doom and luckily I found a ray of light
stable ravine
bro escaped the dark side.
turbid crater
I worked in a petroleum greenfield before getting my internship
Steeled toe boots and all, woke up at 6 am, worked 10hrs on feet all day
stable ravine
the force is strong with him
turbid crater
bro escaped the dark side.
Shit was low key nice ngl, met cool dudes there but the doom and gloom there is on another level
stable ravine
fickle juniper
Found the ‘bertan
wet crown
bro escaped the dark side.
eternal fossil
fossil field
if you're really desperate: construction. get steel-toe boots, a hi vis and show...
lol did that today there was a site on the street so i stopped and asked lmao
they want more skilled labourers tho
Some good news, talking to this guy that came over my dads friend and he works for datawarehouse solution architect for bell, hes gonna ask if there is any new grad positions and talk to his manager to get me a job
hes serbian too so got along with him
made extreme big moves today
fickle lotus
Some good news, talking to this guy that came over my dads friend and he works f...
thats huge man
good luck 
fossil field
thanks i appreciate it (ripping my hair out)
eternal fossil
thanks i appreciate it (ripping my hair out)
i miss u kurt
listening to dumb since i cant do this lc question
vivid fiber
Some good news, talking to this guy that came over my dads friend and he works f...
I hope you land it!
vivid fiber
i miss u kurt
It's not actually Kurt. It's probably a fan who has chosen to use Kurt's face as their profile pic.
shy scaffold
tight gale
How's the market in canada now
timid tartan
How's the market in canada now
How dare you to assume there's even a market in Canada
eternal fossil
How dare you to assume there's even a market in Canada
canada is the hunger games with a sprinkle of snow
simple python
anyone got c1 email T_T
frosty axle
Just did
timid tartan
anyone got c1 email T_T
LMAO yeah
simple python
ngmi
obsidian drum
Yeah i just got it too
timid tartan
It's fcking over
simple python
back to the trenches
obsidian drum
😔
timid tartan
canada is the hunger games with a sprinkle of snow
analog current
who pinged me
hallow sapphire
F
fossil field
woot got a email from hr asking to talk after a connetion talked to them
fast pond
lying about having a competiting offer to expedite the decision process (already been 2 weeks), do it or no?
already sent a follow up 9 days ago (before the 2 week mark) and recruiter told me "I am still working with the team to provide an application update"
lost lark
Bruh
timid tartan
lying about having a competiting offer to expedite the decision process (already...
Not in this market. They probably have many more qualified candidates than the available spots
They can easily just say "Ok, just take that offer then. We'll withdraw your application" without any hesitation
zenith eagle
They can easily just say "Ok, just take that offer then. We'll withdraw your app...
yeah i got F'd from recruiter phones talking about how i have a deadline but i legit told them i don't care i really love ur company and it's my top company
also
snow today
timid tartan
yeah i got F'd from recruiter phones talking about how i have a deadline but i l...
Not surprised
zenith eagle
not ready
timid tartan
That should be expected in this market lol
zenith eagle
it's a lose lose situation bro
zenith eagle
how am i gonna tell her i got no offers or am in any other processes?
timid tartan
how am i gonna tell her i got no offers or am in any other processes?
If you are asked, then answer it
zenith eagle
like advertising u got no bitches to get a gf
timid tartan
Otherwise, don't say anything
At least that's how I've been doing it and no problem so far
zenith eagle
need to skillfully come up with a way to get thorugh this by saying i'm in processes but they're not important to me (i told her that btu still got F)
yeah but i was asked
timid tartan
Don't mention about the deadline unless you're asked
zenith eagle
i dont volunteer tis info
what do i say?
no deadlines means i'm a loser why aren't other companies hiring him?
timid tartan
yeah but i was asked
What was the question
timid tartan
no deadlines means i'm a loser why aren't other companies hiring him?
LMAO what??????????????????
zenith eagle
deadlines means ok this guy isn't worth it we got loads of competitive candidates
zenith eagle
i keep as lowkey as possible and say i'm like in a few processes for companies but i'm not really inspired by them, i think ur company is really interested <more sycophantic comments to please recruiters> so you dont need to worry
it's crazy cuz in the past i got rejected for saying i'm not in any other processes
timid tartan
i keep as lowkey as possible and say i'm like in a few processes for companies b...
Ok then what was the response
zenith eagle
and then i also got rejected for saying i am in other processes and have deadlines
timid tartan
it's crazy cuz in the past i got rejected for saying i'm not in any other proces...
How do you know that you got rejected for that reason?
Was it mentioned explicitly as the reason of rejection?
zenith eagle
had a ref, asked my friend who was privy to why i got rejected
zenith eagle
Ok then what was the response
standard hr speak oh i see yeah thats good to hear
what would u say?
timid tartan
standard hr speak oh i see yeah thats good to hear
Yea if you get rejected for saying the truth then that's not the company you wanna work for
timid tartan
what would u say?
Well I'll just mention the company names and the stage of the process
zenith eagle
would u lie and say u got competitng offers/or in other processes? or it's better to be truthful and say what ur situation is? or lie and say u are not in any processes
timid tartan
Without mentioning any precise deadlines whatsoever
zenith eagle
oh i never mention company names
timid tartan
Then if I am asked for more details, I'll tell the truth
zenith eagle
i vaguely mention the industry like fintech or whatever
timid tartan
would u lie and say u got competitng offers/or in other processes? or it's bette...
I always just tell the truth
zenith eagle
but why tell em what companies?
zenith eagle
imagine interviewing for jane street and tell them you are in the process for tim hortons 😢
or vice versa
timid tartan
imagine interviewing for jane street and tell them you are in the process for ti...
Don't see anything wrong with that
I apply to whatever is available
zenith eagle
it's a joke
timid tartan
zenith eagle
in this market no such thing as pride
timid tartan
Yea just take whatever is available
zenith eagle
but like i mentioned companies and i got rejected the reason was the companies were not in the healthcare tech industry so apparently i wasn't serious about healthcare tech
timid tartan
but like i mentioned companies and i got rejected the reason was the companies w...
It's their loss then lol
That's extremely unreasonable wtf
zenith eagle
what town is that?
zenith eagle
That's extremely unreasonable wtf
i mean i feel like all companies want u to drink the koolaid these days
the whole bay area was yuck
but alas that's whdre the opportunites are
timid tartan
i mean i feel like all companies want u to drink the koolaid these days
Lol
It is what it is
This country is such a scam anyway
zenith eagle
canada?
timid tartan
Yep
zenith eagle
the company was in the states lol
zenith eagle
i've had nothing but good experineces interviewing for canadian companies
or even canadian interviewers
but too bad no one hiring now
fr the intern grind has worn me down
oh wtf?
what company?
this sounds like ramp
brookfield?
timid tartan
Canada?
LMAOOOO
I WAS SO READY TO GUESS THAT
Cuz I got rejected from that company as well
After 4 rounds tho
zenith eagle
ccl?
zenith eagle
that's nice of them tho call to reject much better than no reply email
timid tartan
So I didn't wanna work there either
They can fck off
Nah it was a massive redflag
Did you interview for quant dev?
Or the infra eng one
mystic mirage
Solved the question in like 15 mins or smt optimally
timid tartan
I got rejected after the CTO round
Lmao
Yeeee
Massive red flag tho
Like it was two interviewers
CTO and another guy
zenith eagle
posting still open?
timid tartan
But the other guy was 30 mins late so my interview went over 30 mins
And he didn't even apologize
Said absolutely nothing like he wasn't at fault
timid tartan
posting still open?
I think so but you prob don't wanna work at such a company lmao
zenith eagle
offer is an offer i don't have a cb offer like u
timid tartan
But the other guy was 30 mins late so my interview went over 30 mins
And then this guy at one point asked me "Tell me about a time when you faced a conflict that triggered extreme emotional reaction"
I was like bro what
I told him about a small verbal conflict but he cut me off midway and said "If it doesn't involve extreme emotional reaction, then that's not what we're looking for"
"The more heated the conflict is, the better"
timid tartan
offer is an offer i don't have a cb offer like u <:sadge:747169038911930418>
I don't have the offer yet lmao
I need to do my HM final round in less than 3 hrs
zenith eagle
oh gl
timid tartan
Not yet but hopefully soon
zenith eagle
u got dis
worldly ridge
"The more heated the conflict is, the better"
this is unhinged
💀
bros reflecuitng his broken marrige into the interview process
timid tartan
this is unhinged
I was so shocked when I heard that
That was a massive red flag like I can't imagine the office situation there
Maybe they have people pulling out guns and knives everyday in the office
worldly ridge
id imagine
timid tartan
Plot twist: they have added everyone to the "pipeline"
fossil field
actually yea.
unless you have some fang internships and top student at top school forget about any of these positions
wet crown
dw Capital One is stinky regardless
stable ravine
unless you have some fang internships and top student at top school forget about...
fcking paradox
give a chance .....
fossil field
nah not the right time economically
reach out to smaller companies
my honest belief is you wont get a job just by sitting at home and applying to as many postings as you can
unless you are a unicorn which you arent
timid tartan
unless you have some fang internships and top student at top school forget about...
No, FAANG internships don't help in this market either lol
fossil field
yea exactly, they want unicorn
timid tartan
yea exactly, they want unicorn
Wdym by unicorn
timid tartan
Unicorns are companies valued at over 1b
Oh I know that
But I think he meant smth else
Also yeah I interned at a unicorn and that doesn't help too much either
analog current
Oh I thought he meant like they don’t want FAANG interns they want unicorn interns, at least that’s what I thought
Yeah
Tbh US companies just don’t want Canadians
timid tartan
TLDR nothing actually helps in this market
analog current
I have a friend who goes to a T50 CS school in the US, we both have the same FAANG internship, and basically the same resume
He’s had 16 interviews, I’ve had 3
It’s literally just Canada VS US
analog current
Yeah that’s my point haha, nothing we can do rly
polar dust
He’s had 16 interviews, I’ve had 3
new grad?
timid tartan
Man the US has more new grad job posting in a month than Canada has in 3 or 4 months
analog current
Man the US has more new grad job posting in a month than Canada has in 3 or 4 mo...
Yeah it’s a lot
timid tartan
analog current
It sucks bc past decade or so, demand for CS majors exceeded supply, so they looked to Canada for workers
timid tartan
Canada moment
analog current
But now with everyone posting how much they make on TikTok, everyone’s going into CS so there’s enough of a talent pool locally in the US
So why sponsor Canadians
timid tartan
Yeah ur best bet is US companies with presence in Canada
analog current
Yeah or hopefully land a remote role and if you do well, they might consider moving you there
fossil field
unicorns are basically people who fit the exact description of what they are looking for
and since so many people go laid off including skilled ones, theres a lot more of them applying for these roles and of course they would rather choose them than some newbie
analog current
and since so many people go laid off including skilled ones, theres a lot more o...
Ah gotcha
I feel like the commonly given advice of “mass apply to jobs” doesn’t rly work anymore
Feel like you need to pick a specialization and get really good at one thing
Then you fit the “unicorn” description for a handful of companies, and have a better chance at getting an interview
timid tartan
Feel like you need to pick a specialization and get really good at one thing
Yep I've been thinking about that recently too
That seems to be the way