canada

[lapis tide]

what

[real island]

Bruh where my wayfair OA

😔

WayDay

[weak gazelle]

isn't everyone in Canada a singaporean by default

[real island]

[honest tulip]

Does anyone know how much 1password intern pays

[barren sinew]

How to acquire 16 years of experience in 16 days??

[stable ravine]

how to see more ng jobs on job boards

[boreal sentinel]

ye im singaporean

https://www.tiktok.com/@aktarkhan116/video/7100860447657594114?lang=en

[stable ravine]

https://www.tiktok.com/@aktarkhan116/video/7290144890481134866?lang=en

rofl

[eternal fossil]

how did people in here get CB interviews

what the heck

https://tenor.com/view/lagosta-no-oleo-gif-25558837

[summer compass]

Today's a special day

Getting rejected left, right, and center

[jolly bone]

is Databricks intern OA auto?

[whole canopy]

yes

[hallow sapphire]

interviewed there before

[stable ravine]

cb?

[eternal fossil]

coinbase

[eternal fossil]

whats ur work history

[stable ravine]

I remember someone saying that they only contact prev interns for interview

[hallow sapphire]

when I applied?
or now?

[eternal fossil]

when u had the interview

[hallow sapphire]

amazon/docusign

didn't take tho

[eternal fossil]

no wonder

kk

youre cracked by the standards of this channel

[hallow sapphire]

I still don't know

what makes someone cracked here

[eternal fossil]

basically

more than 1 internship? cracked

1 faang internship? cracked

waterloo grad? cracked

[stable ravine]

getting interviews? cracked

[hallow sapphire]

got basically 3 and can't get any ng interviews

[eternal fossil]

how long u been graduated

[hallow sapphire]

dec 2023

[eternal fossil]

oh ok

[hallow sapphire]

looking to delay it atm

[eternal fossil]

delay it

[hallow sapphire]

cause I'm getting intern offers

[eternal fossil]

take it from me

graduated 2022

delay it

[hallow sapphire]

kk

[eternal fossil]

one regret i have is completing too fast

once youre out of the game youre out

[stable ravine]

did you manage to get a job?

[eternal fossil]

youre used goods

[stable ravine]

I'm intl and can't delay my grad

[eternal fossil]

LMAO

[hallow sapphire]

nah

UBC

[hot rapids]

I thought you had an offer that needed relocation?

[eternal fossil]

yes

2

one for ottawa one for halifax

[hot rapids]

Why didn’t you take that 😭

[eternal fossil]

halifax was recent

too little money

devsecops

[real island]

I mean better than nothing no?

[hot rapids]

But isn’t that better than no job if you’re a 2022 grad

[eternal fossil]

it was 70k no relo

i would be living paycheque to paycheuye

i did everything in an excel sheet

[real island]

Did you try to negotiate?

[eternal fossil]

id be left with like $500 end of month it would be hell lol

yeah

[real island]

Damn rip

[eternal fossil]

no room for negotiation

[hot rapids]

But now you don’t even have the $500

[eternal fossil]

< 1 yoe meant no raise from 70

[stable ravine]

devsecops is good?

[eternal fossil]

yeah thats true

[real island]

Wb the Ottawa job?

[eternal fossil]

but its not that simple tho

[stable ravine]

you can later switch to google SRE

if they are hiring in the future

[eternal fossil]

friends family? like id have to uproot completely for a bombs manufacturer

it was lockheed btw

[hot rapids]

I can’t believe $70k is paycheck to paycheck in Ottawa or Halifax

That’s crazy

How do min wage ppl live??

[eternal fossil]

also lockheed didnt give me more than 3 days to decide

thats how razor thin negotiation was

[real island]

3 days wtf 😭

[stable ravine]

I remember you saying you had cisco offer?

[eternal fossil]

they didnt care lol they had too many people waiting in line

[real island]

Cisco?!!

[eternal fossil]

yeah that was early this year

[real island]

I woulda taken that

[eternal fossil]

yeah

i shouldve

lol

[real island]

Why didn’t you at the time?

[eternal fossil]

it was still early and i thought money was too little

it was early 2023

[stable ravine]

bro wants to be jobless

[eternal fossil]

like february

[hot rapids]

Bro whaaat

[real island]

What was the pay even?

[hot rapids]

Gave up Cisco FT 😭

[eternal fossil]

72

[real island]

🥲

[hot rapids]

That is low but I’d still take that

[stable ravine]

wdym cisco FTE is 80-90k?

[fickle lotus]

In cheap, run-down basement suites while scrounging every possible penny for food

[real island]

Yeah fax

[eternal fossil]

yeah i shouldve tbh

i kick myself

[hot rapids]

That is less than the intern pay I got offered by Cisco, and I would still take that lol

[eternal fossil]

it was a sign on bonus of like 8k too because i mentioned id need starting money to actually move

[real island]

🥲

[hot rapids]

1yr there and you can double your TC

[eternal fossil]

5 days a week in office in their shitty kanata office

[real island]

💀

[eternal fossil]

the breaking point was that id need a car to actually live in ottawa

[fickle lotus]

A Cisco manager looked at my LinkedIn a week ago and I had copium that was I was getting an interview

[hot rapids]

I feel like all of that is still better than unemployed as a 2022 grad 😭

Sorry brother

But hindsight 20:20

[eternal fossil]

yeah

no youre right

cisco is something i shouldve taken

but i posted in here when i first got it

[hot rapids]

Maybe market would’ve went the other way and you woulda got a $120k tc job

[eternal fossil]

and people had mixed opinions

i was on the fence for it too

[stable ravine]

@eternal fossil how was the cisco interviews?

[fickle lotus]

Ya the car thing is an issue for me too if I move, can't even get a corolla off the lot nowadays. Also base corolla is now $30k after taxes/fees 💀

[eternal fossil]

linkedlists and a graph question

[real island]

Damn

[eternal fossil]

i keep myself up at night thinking i shouldve taken the cisco one

the team was nice...

networking team

routers and other shit

[hot rapids]

Maybe coulda taken and kept looking

I know ppl work 6 months at a place and dip

[eternal fossil]

the reason why they interviewed me was

someone reneged

and they had 1 opening

and they were already behind on starting all the other grads all at once

so they were moving fast

[hot rapids]

Damn dawg god threw you a bone and you said naw

[eternal fossil]

lol ya

you can search my name in here and read the different opinions i got from people

learned a lot from fumbling cisco

email the hiring manager was ghosted

[hot rapids]

Its okay bro, just don’t give up

[eternal fossil]

maybe ill try again idk

[oblique crater]

i roasted you for not taking it

[hot rapids]

Another chance will come, otherwise masters time 😎

[eternal fossil]

yes

[oblique crater]

but yeah youll get something eventually

[eternal fossil]

you did

[hot rapids]

Need that masters to reset grad date if things get worse

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/lagosta-no-oleo-gif-25558837

[echo latch]

gib job

[eternal fossil]

honestly i had a math prof at TMU who was a grad coordinator tell me hey guys apply to grad programs in math

[rugged spade]

GIB JOB GIB JOB

[eternal fossil]

and he came to me while i had a 78 in his class

and dudes like yeah grad program pay is 25k

[stable ravine]

GIB interview

[eternal fossil]

i said oh like 1 semester?

he said no

yearly

instant bye

[real island]

25k a year 🥲

[echo latch]

phd stipends aren't meant for you to get by

[rugged spade]

hi charmander

[eternal fossil]

if you devote a lot of your time doing research i mean it should pay atleast min wage

[echo latch]

it's j to make things easier on your already saved up funds

[real island]

Hello

[eternal fossil]

not to mention my family wasnt too supportive either when it came to cisco/lockheed

told me money was too low and it convinced me it was a dud

moral of the story

dont listen to your haters

[rugged spade]

25k not liveable

!!!

[eternal fossil]

its not lol

this was 2022 as well

[sly prawn]

Thats a lot more than what I get

[eternal fossil]

fyi like your research is then owned by the uni

[sly prawn]

My total funding for phd is 45k but fees is around 25k

I am left with 20k

during my masters it was 15k ...

[eternal fossil]

my tuition would still need to be paid

so technically it would be a lot less than 25k

[sly prawn]

yeah then it is not a lot

Actually this amount for me was enough

But recently the rent has been very high

[eternal fossil]

rent is stupid high

[rugged spade]

tmu?

[eternal fossil]

yes

[rugged spade]

dang

toronto rent is crazy

[eternal fossil]

im a uoft reject

so

[wheat comet]

Come live with me

[eternal fossil]

i went to tmu around when uoft cs kids were unaliving themselves in bahen

[wheat comet]

u gotta go train to school tho

[oblique crater]

I have a bedspace for you in brampton

[sly prawn]

damn it seems worse for you then ...

I am at UW

[wheat comet]

I have a room for u near Scarborough GO

[sly prawn]

waterloo rent was very low before covid

[eternal fossil]

goated

[oblique crater]

$900 a month utilities not included, a steal if I say so myself

[eternal fossil]

yeahhh soooo low

[fickle lotus]

Canada is such a gg when it comes to our future job prospects, across all industries. Like it's actually laughable

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-competition-bureau-report-1.7001320

[oblique crater]

I swear everyone is chilling outside of this channel

just live in the moment stop comparing yourself with 250k bay area prodigies

[echo latch]

trust me no one is chilling

it would be nice if people were chilling tho

[wheat comet]

Im chilling to a fault

[oblique crater]

maybe Alberta is the one chilling then

[wheat comet]

I need to stop chilling a little

[eternal fossil]

yeah

[oblique crater]

I can’t imagine UW students have ever chilled in their life before

[eternal fossil]

was talking about this last week, we will see the real repurcussions of mass immigration and rising costs in about a decade

[echo latch]

google discord's 2023 intern -> 2024 ft channel is dooming harder than #canada and #2024_grads combined

[echo latch]

this is also true; normally they'd be chilling around now in other years but oh well

it is what it is

[oblique crater]

imagine if people in the US said that, instead the immigrants come and create jobs

[boreal sentinel]

damn thats a lot of dooming then

[oblique crater]

and Canadas system is supposed to attract immigrants based on merit

[boreal sentinel]

hows project matching for interns looking this year wagons?

[eternal fossil]

absolutely

[echo latch]

idk hasn't started yet

[eternal fossil]

idk about the US

i feel like the poor are more poorer there

[boreal sentinel]

ye but r like a lot of interns returning?

[wheat comet]

The issue is they come here to go to uni but all study some random business or sum shit then do min wage job

[eternal fossil]

like if you ever go to nyc and you go to central park, you have kids with their moms selling water bottles for a dollar

all the whilst youll see a maybach parked across the street

[echo latch]

well considering even intern positions are harder to get now i would think so

oh step -> swe intern is no longer guaranteed

[boreal sentinel]

oof

i just have to say i like c++ and java and all is good?

[echo latch]

who knows nowadays

c++ exp def helps the most tho

[oblique crater]

that’s not immigration, those are supposed to be temporary residents but the post graduate work permit is being abused by degree mills

i’m talking about working professionals who move here as skilled laborers

[real island]

[wheat comet]

ah true

[wheat comet]

ohh and why is that system broken

[stable ravine]

I studied cs tho ...

[wheat comet]

goodshit

[weak gazelle]

they aren't prodigies

[eternal fossil]

I felt this lol

[weak gazelle]

lmfaoo

[oblique crater]

not necessarily broken but I think the universities are heavily incentivized by money to consistently increase international enrollement

and the government is too lenient with who is officially recognized as an institution with a DLI where you’re eligible for this pathway

[weak gazelle]

https://globalnews.ca/news/9925737/international-students-canada-universities/#:~:text=Amid talk of a cap,future to ease housing demand.

[weak gazelle]

yea they need to be a lot stricter in recognizing something as DLI

thing is lots of "degree mills" practically only run because of international student tuition

and thye have like 50 percent domestic enrollment

so if the internationals are capped or smth, the college won't even be able to run

[echo latch]

not as helpful as an undergrad from waterloo but better than most schools

for master's i'd rather go to whatever is most cost-effective

if you're in the genai hype train then prolly mcgill or ualberta

[weak gazelle]

why not uoft

mcgill is as expensive as uoft

for masters

[echo latch]

way cheaper rent + mila + google's research division is there so easier to form connections

deepmind or something has some kind of partnership(?) with alberta iirc

[oblique crater]

UofA is elite for ML but it’s quite a theoretical program

deepmind shutdown here

lots of the researchers are now working for AMII

[echo latch]

eh

getting there slowly

[tough knot]

Cause uoft is a mid school

[weak gazelle]

mods pls ban

[tough knot]

I go to uoft 💀

[weak gazelle]

i know

[tough knot]

still bad tho

us schools are just better

[weak gazelle]

not for internationals they're not

unless you're in an elite school

[tough knot]

[sly prawn]

depends on your area

UW ml/ai research is probably not that good

but I can't comment that much since not my area

[real island]

UofT for research >

[fickle lotus]

UofT for DN

[midnight sequoia]

does anyone know the headcount status for stripe NG?

did anyone get an offer?

[pallid reef]

academically?

[pallid reef]

lmaoaooo

[tough knot]

nah i was just bored and trolling ngl

[pallid reef]

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/sadness-simpsons-gif-12578198

[pallid reef]

can y’all arrange me a research at uoft

please

[eternal fossil]

talk to program coorindators

get a feel for what profs do and are doing or want to do

go to their higher level undergrad/grad level courses

talk to them as a student

gn

[sleek meteor]

Scam email before bed nice

[stable ravine]

@analog current

you're not alone

both go to the same uni?

[sleek meteor]

LMAOO

I remember applying to an innovapost position too

[raw ocean]

engineer is a "protected title" right

[lapis tide]

its provincially regulated though

so pretty sure the feds can tell them to fuck off

[stable ravine]

this is from a uni at quebec r8?

my bad nvm

[lapis tide]

uoft

[worldly ridge]

Soft landing baby

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-23/canada-to-barely-escape-recession-as-higher-rates-will-stick-economists-say

2024 wil be a bright year

[lapis tide]

https://tenor.com/view/sosherlock-copium-gif-26062107

[worldly ridge]

Jk, apparently 50% mortgages are up for renewal 2025 and 2026

I wonder how housing market and economy would react next year though

https://cp24.com/news/everyone-is-going-to-have-to-pay-more-what-you-need-to-know-about-mortgage-renewals-with-interest-rates-at-a-22-year-high-1.6480357?cache=yesclipId104062%2F7.411115#:~:text=Approximately half of all mortgages,of the COVID-19 pandemic.

[lapis tide]

back to 1% interest rates by sheer popular demand

[stable ravine]

brah whats with manulife

mfs sending me one more rejection

[raw ocean]

half is crazy

[worldly ridge]

yeah

[wheat comet]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-face-typing-very-fast-gif-24785119

[dapper thorn]

I got it and lost it within the month

No one even wears them

[normal jetty]

No they don’t

SE is an eng program so they get a ring

But SE stream in CS is not an eng program so they don’t get a ring

[timid tartan]

Tbh most engineers don't consider "Software Engineering" as "real" engineering xD

[real island]

💀💀

[boreal sentinel]

oa for canadian company

i love canada

https://www.tiktok.com/@aktarkhan116/video/7152367906003668225?lang=en

[vivid fiber]

It isn't

[teal remnant]

What is real engineering

[real island]

Ngmi

[stone osprey]

Was this for PnG?

[boreal sentinel]

i think so i didnt do it just saw someone comment about it in my schools discord server

[stone osprey]

Yea it was dumb af

I did that too

[boreal sentinel]

do uk the correct answer?

[stone osprey]

Took me over an hour and then they fucking rejected me on the same day

[stable ravine]

wtf is this

[boreal sentinel]

most avg oa in maple land

[stable ravine]

is that a visual representation of a leetcode style problem? or some other shit?

[boreal sentinel]

i acc have no clue

i would honestly shit the bed if i saw this

[stone osprey]

No it was just dumb bullshit

[boreal sentinel]

canada oa diffculty > us oa difficulty

[stone osprey]

Frfr

[stable ravine]

num of roles in can<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<num of roles in us

[stone osprey]

We just have depression, snow and maple syrup

[boreal sentinel]

take it or leave it

that’s all we can do around here

[stable ravine]

• lot of homeless

I'll be one among them soon

[zinc knot]

Its iq shit

stupid as fuck

png moment

[stone osprey]

Fuck PnG

[real island]

[boreal sentinel]

yes!! i acc remember doing this for innovation developer position in hs

so cancer

[analog current]

Didn’t they make y’all do twosum or something

[boreal sentinel]

i don’t remember that, was like in grade 12 that time

3-4 years ago

[analog current]

I forgot where I heard they did twosum lmfao but I have a few friends who have worked there

Feels almost “common” for the students who’ve interned in my class at rbc

[lapis tide]

@vernal sigil zon hiring

proof:

[fallen mason]

yo what do background checks check

[real island]

[fallen mason]

nah I just did a couple unpaid “internships”

would it be awkward explaining that they were unpaid

[timid tartan]

You won’t need to explain

[fallen mason]

wdym

[timid tartan]

I still have those on my resume and nothing has ever happened

[lapis tide]

this mans coinbase was actually unpaid

[timid tartan]

Not coinbase bruh tf

🤦‍♂️

[lapis tide]

got paid in matic

[fallen mason]

😭😭😭 ok thank god

I was stressing fam

[lapis tide]

yeah i make 1 matic

[vernal sigil]

why u do unpaid internships

slave work

[fallen mason]

need experience to get experience

act rich to get rich

[real island]

😂😂😂😂😂

[real island]

Real

I’d only do an unpaid internship for a top company

Otherwise nah

[timid tartan]

I did it bcs it's common to do unpaid when you do research with profs

I had a mix of paid and unpaid at that time though

[real island]

With profs I feel is diff tbh

But with a random company is just not worth it

[timid tartan]

Yeah those were my only unpaid "internships"

Also it allowed me to completely forget about doing bullshit side projects

[wary tundra]

!doordash reject

!okta reject

[wary tundra]

how do you list them on linkedin

[weak gazelle]

i'd do an unpaid internship for openAI

[stable ravine]

did they ask you to fill in a form or took your resume ?

[fallen mason]

they already had my resume, and I got an offer today

Recruiter said she’ll contact me with next steps for the background check

[drifting shore]

unpaid for

[stable ravine]

ig unpaid is ok but don't lie about anything you didn't do tho

[wary tundra]

if you listed under experience it's fine

it's still experience

[fallen mason]

yeah I put “software engineer intern” on my resume

under experience

[wooden lichen]

same

[fallen mason]

ohh bet i have the contract

[wooden lichen]

yo what if you dont even have a contract or anything u just worked for some guy for free but put it as an internship

fucj

[timid tartan]

Just put it?

[timid tartan]

Idk what you are asking lmao

[wooden lichen]

no like its not even a company

thats fine

not entirely completely

3

including myself

true

not founding but was the only engineer

okk

yeah i was told it was only a security check if i didnt any crime but im looking into the company that they do bg check with and it might include employmeny background too

[hot rapids]

Where are the new Canadian jobs 😭

[wooden lichen]

mouthful mb

ill do that tho thank you

[stable ravine]

create a fake linkedin profile?

[stable ravine]

😭

[fallen mason]

anyone know how much hp pays?

[fallen mason]

fr?

[fickle lotus]

he fooled us with his cute looks

[vivid fiber]

Damn that's a throwback

I feel like mentioning the house hippo is a way to see who the real Canadians are

[drifting shore]

wagmi

[honest tulip]

Isn’t that an Ontario thing

[hot rapids]

naw I saw those ads in vancouver

[hot rapids]

Yeah you can do internships outside of co-op if you’re a domestic student (otherwise summer only)

But if you’re looking for US positions, make sure you’re enrolled full time the term before you need a J-1 visa, otherwise they can’t sponsor you

[wary tundra]

You did unpaid work, aka volunteer work. On linekdin you can specify volunteer experience. Did you list it there or not?

[timid tartan]

Nope

Simply bcs I want everything to be aggregated under work experience

[stable ravine]

🤔 open work permit + study permit?

[worldly ridge]

who remembers this too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-hP-Q8pa8Q&ab_channel=ccacanada

good times

[ruby ridge]

🍁 classic

[worldly ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9wuiKmnC2Y&ab_channel=muzicteddy

becasue I always live in the past

i peaked at elemntary school

[ruby ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ZRffWVZqI

[worldly ridge]

brooo ur actualy makign me feel old

[ruby ridge]

[simple python]

anyone interviewed at copperleaf before

[wary tundra]

you have an interview?

[simple python]

yeah

[wary tundra]

did you apply via co-op

[stone osprey]

Yea that will work

[paper ether]

chat how to transfer to better university?

Also, am i fucked if i accepted an offer for internship for June 2025 or earlier grad if the only feasible way I can grad by then is if i do 6 classes per semester and 2 while on that internship?

[candid oxide]

no just dont say anything

[paper ether]

and if they ask for transcript?

[candid oxide]

never had a place ask for transcript, well u can just say u were planning to grad by then with that supposed number of courses

transcript doesnt say whwen ur going to grad

[paper ether]

okay true thanks im just nervous tbh

[candid oxide]

itll b ok lol only thing that could be iffy is return

[paper ether]

ye true, but like 90% of ppl get returns

its amplify

so i think ill be okay?

idk i was talkin to a guy and he got 4 diff offers from teams

[candid oxide]

ur prob chillin dont stress

[paper ether]

ty brotha

[simple python]

nop its external

[soft hamlet]

I'm doing apr 2025 even tho I grad in apr 2027

it's plausible because I'll be 21-22/40 courses into my degree by the time of my internship, if I take courses and overload then it's possible

[paper ether]

Okay true but we know u

all u gotta do is 7 courses per semester

for 3 sems

and then 2 each summer

BOOM

im just worried they would rescind

[soft hamlet]

[soft hamlet]

fair enough

Mine is still plausible

but once I do a fall term as scheduled, I will have to push it back to 2026 because it won't be plausible anymore

[lapis tide]

ryan

[placid dawn]

🤢

[lunar sandal]

holy mother of minimum wage

[stable ravine]

brah it's been more than a month since we applied for IBM canada ng role. ppl from us got a apology mail for the delay; it has only been 2 weeks for them. O'canada

wdym isn't minimum wage like 15.60$??

[lunar sandal]

i got rejected after 100% OA LMFAO

[stable ravine]

ibm canada ng?

when?

[real island]

Prob intern

[fallen mason]

Does it matter what the job requirements are after you get an offer?

[real island]

Wym

[fallen mason]

It says "Students who have completed at least 2 academic years." in the job descripition, but I got an offer

they're doing a background check now, would they revoke if they know i'm still a 2nd year?

[real island]

Maybe

[meager cairn]

probably not

[fallen mason]

Ah

[meager cairn]

unless you explicitly lied about how many academic years you have, then possibly

[real island]

Depends if they care

^

[meager cairn]

but even then I doubt it

[stable ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pablo-lonely-alone-gif-12928789

[fallen mason]

I didn't do that, but I did say my expected grad date is 2025

[real island]

What company is the offer for?

[fallen mason]

HP

[meager cairn]

I really doubt a company would revoke over something like that, the 2 yoe req is probably just to filter people who seem premature

[real island]

Hmmmm

Your start year is 2021?

[paper ether]

what company?

[fallen mason]

I told the interviewer that I will complete 2nd year before I start the internship though

[real island]

Or wait 2022?

[real island]

Oh then you’re good prob

[fallen mason]

Yeah 2022

[real island]

As long as you have it before internship I think it’s fine

[stable ravine]

you're good. stop overthinking lol

[real island]

Is this a summer internship?

[fallen mason]

Ahh true I should, I just have an offer due today, which I'd have to reject for HP

I don't wanna end up with no offers lol

[fallen mason]

It's January

[real island]

Ohh

[stable ravine]

you gonna reject?

[fallen mason]

the other offer, probably

[stable ravine]

oh kk

my bad

[real island]

What’s the other offer for?

[fallen mason]

as long as I will most likely get the HP offer

[fallen mason]

Generac power systems

[real island]

Tbh you can just say my bad I accidentally put the wrong date if they say anything

[stable ravine]

both same positions?

[fallen mason]

Nope, HP is cloud

[stable ravine]

Noice

[fallen mason]

I prefer cloud much more tbh

[stable ravine]

cloud native swe?

[real island]

Cloud vs SWE?

[stable ravine]

or pure cloud?

[fallen mason]

Pure cloud I believe

Generac is SWE

[real island]

I see I see

[fallen mason]

Gg time to reject generac then

and hope hp doesn't revoke lmao

[stable ravine]

do you have to give a reason for renege?

[fallen mason]

yeah but i can just say i accepted an offer elsewhere

[stable ravine]

tell them you broke your leg

[fallen mason]

haven't accepted their offer yet

[stable ravine]

[fallen mason]

lmaooo "sorry i slipped on a banana peel and hurt my head and now i'm an art major"

[stable ravine]

blacklisted for sure

[fallen mason]

the whole school gonna be blacklisted

[sleek meteor]

im pretty sure the email is to get people to complete the survey 😭

[soft hamlet]

same gamble that I'm doing (I don't have offers )

[stable ravine]

you got the email?

[sleek meteor]

yea i applied to it as well

[stable ravine]

ng ?

[sleek meteor]

prob gonna get rejected

it was the entry level commercial position

[stable ravine]

us?

[sleek meteor]

yeah

[stable ravine]

🤔 do they sponsor visa?

did you apply for the canadian one?

[sleek meteor]

yeah i did both

they gave me a sponorship form to fill out

so maybe

hopefully

[stable ravine]

did you hear back from canadian one?

[sleek meteor]

not yet

[stable ravine]

do you have hopes?. telling yes for sponsorship is auto reject? that's what I heard

[sleek meteor]

well

they sent the OA and trait based

after i fill the sponsor form

so a lil bit of hope

[stable ravine]

[sleek meteor]

ive also heard people were rejected after OA so

[stable ravine]

WAGMI

[sleek meteor]

💀

[hot rapids]

theres canadian placements

[dry rain]

No sponsor if in Canada

[timid tartan]

It's remote, no sponsorship required

If anything, I wouldn't know either bcs I'm not Canadian

[lapis tide]

ok mr 50x faang

[real island]

[lapis tide]

https://www.reddit.com/r/UofT/comments/17fpmuc/question_i_graduated_last_year_doing_uber_eats_u/

[real island]

500 applications 💀

Bro needs a resume review asap

[worldly ridge]

congrats on Uber

[tough knot]

Bro I’ve looked at some resumes and it makes it so obvious why they have no interviews

[real island]

Yeah fax ik wym

[tough knot]

like it’s just a bunch of weird shit posted on a google docs

[real island]

Kinda sad cuz most of the time they got the skills

[tough knot]

fr

uoft cs grad and Uber eats is crazy

[lapis tide]

congrats on recruiter

[tough knot]

bruh

[timid tartan]

This is me except that I have internships and I’m still failing in life

[real island]

I mean I heard some companies in Toronto say they prefer UofT and loo grads over the rest

[timid tartan]

Tbh internships don’t seem to make any differences in this economy lol

Both me and those who don’t do internships are gonna be jobless

Makes 0 differences

[real island]

🧢 you gonna make it

[timid tartan]

[fickle lotus]

A lot of ppl don't realize how fucked it is rn, I read a comment on Reddit from a Waterloo student who said < 40% of the grad class had a job this year lol

[real island]

wtf 💀

[fickle lotus]

Idk how reliable the source is tho but ya

[real island]

Yeah it’s def not good tho rn

😢

[timid tartan]

Doesn’t sound surprising tbh

[real island]

This is depressing

Can’t even land an internship

🥲

[timid tartan]

Yea but this is the new reality

Unless you’re at the very top you will be weeded out

[real island]

😔 yeah that’s fax

[timid tartan]

Which is why I’m jobless too 🤣

[real island]

😭😭😭😭

[simple python]

😭 😭 😭 😭

[real island]

I just want to intern anywhere at this point

Just give me the opportunity

[fickle lotus]

Yeah most of them probs didn't get ROs from faang

[lapis tide]

ok mr 60x faang

[real island]

💀💀💀💀💀💀

[lapis tide]

you could ask steve job

[real island]

Real

[lapis tide]

i don't know about that

[stable ravine]

Former cs major Actively Applying for jobs, Now Grilling patties at mcD

i'm 100x FAANG

[hot rapids]

Go on vacation try again in Jan angle

[timid tartan]

Lmfaoooo it’s even worse that getting a job at McD is ultra competitive too

[fallen mason]

does McD accept referrals

[echo latch]

I remember reading somewhere that mcd stopped giving their food for free to employees?

[fickle lotus]

They used to give 50% off on everything

[real storm]

honestly

the canadian job market is fucked

[fickle lotus]

But a few years ago limited it only to the dollar menu (jr chicken, hamburger etc)

I think managers still get free food tho

[real storm]

like just fucked in general, there's no investment into tech in this country

i mean why would there be considering the majority of the GDP is tied to landlords and their collected rent

[fickle lotus]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7001320

^ the level of competition across all our industries is abysmal as well

[fickle lotus]

We have like 0 innovation anywhere

Horrible housing supply but an unsustainable amount of immigration

[echo latch]

Nah tech companies do invest in Canada bc Canada is cheaper labour

[real storm]

idk if parliament was trying to offset the growth rate/birth rate of the population

[real storm]

no funding for research programs or startups

healthcare is fucked, homelessness is rampant, drug issue hasn't been addressed outside of a couple of safe injection sites

not a doomer guy, but tbh if it werent for the asian community in toronto i'd be on the next plane outtta dodge

[fickle lotus]

pretty sure this is the long term goal

[fickle lotus]

Yeah all my friends and family are here so even if I end up in the states I'll still come back at some point

[weak gazelle]

UofT's aim isn't to get a job immediately after grad
and UofT is quite known in a bunch of asian countries and the UK
you could move

a lot more known than loo btw

[paper ether]

globally yeah

[weak gazelle]

i'd never heard of loo till I entered Canada

but that's probably cuz I only checked the rankings

and stuff

[stable ravine]

loo >> for job at NA

uoft everywhere else

[weak gazelle]

not for any job

only SWE

lol

and that too in certain sections in the States

[stable ravine]

yea

everyone wants to be a swe here xD

[weak gazelle]

like if you go in middle of nowhere in states, don't think they would know loo more than UofT (probably won't know either)

[meager cairn]

correct

but nobody

is worried about that

[weak gazelle]

also looking at the tech scene in NA rn, countries outside are likely to dominate in the job market in the future

in terms of number of jobs open and stuff

then why would you only consider reputation in a certain sector in NA

I'm not even considering that higher education (Masters, etc) may become more common in the future cuz of saturation

[main grotto]

😦

[terse burrow]

is it typical for summer internships to give offers now

or do they usually wait until like janurary

[main grotto]

yee

some places give back offers now

[terse burrow]

gg

what does it take to not get ghosted by every company man

i have prev work exp but its still super hard

[main grotto]

how any internship you got?

[terse burrow]

just one

last year for 8 months

[terse burrow]

cant even get to interview stage lmao

[real island]

It’s acc over

Ngmi

[main grotto]

I had 2 for 4 months

inteview with ibm

got rejecteed week later

:9

its doomed

i appled bare

still no respose 😦

[terse burrow]

its tough out here

[main grotto]

ye it is

I hope there are more job postings in jan

[somber coral]

has anyone had any experience with splunk 45 minute technical on codility ? ↖(^ω^)↗

[lapis tide]

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-shocked-monkey-disappointed-disappointed-monkey-gif-25631537

https://tenor.com/view/lagosta-no-oleo-gif-25558837

kaneda

[stable ravine]

O'keneda

[eternal fossil]

lil raggedy country GODDAMN

need A FUCKING JOB that WONT PAY PENNIES MAN

[stable ravine]

brah keneda gave you 2 jobs

wdym

[eternal fossil]

plsss just livable wage

plssssssssssssssssssssssss

rn doing landscaping is paying so much more

[stable ravine]

At this point I'm even ok with 60-70k TC

[eternal fossil]

id settle for 70 if i didnt have to move

thats all

[stable ravine]

but how do you even settle xD

[eternal fossil]

ima live with my friend in his basement and pay for groceries every now and then

[stable ravine]

0 ng jobs ;/

it's been a month since I applied to a ng role

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/suicide-kms-gif-4481206

[stable ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-go-t-tommen-suicide-jump-gif-5637016

[worldly ridge]

did 0 ng jobs drop the past month

or r u just taking a break

[stable ravine]

🤔

[worldly ridge]

sorry im an out of touch socialite witha trustfund lol

[eternal fossil]

ngl i seen a ton of <= 1yoe xp positions pop up

but ofcourse mfs with 2+ will apply for those

[stable ravine]

brah where are you seeing those jobs

[eternal fossil]

linkedin pages 10+

keep going youll see some

add filters

[stable ravine]

amazon swe opened a 1+ exp swe position

[eternal fossil]

and notifs for new roles showing up in the past 24 hours

[stable ravine]

instant reject

I dont think ngs have a chance if the job posting says 1-2+yrs work exp

laid off ppl would die for the job

[broken whale]

Fakee

[echo latch]

hi is uoft's solo PR team

[paper ether]

😭😭

[neon spoke]

link?

[stable ravine]

I dont have r8 now. check their career page

[lapis tide]

r8

[stable ravine]

wha du u wnt r8 nw?

[weak gazelle]

[echo latch]

https://tenor.com/view/audi-automobile-manufacturer-sports-car-cool-car-gif-16817730

[neon spoke]

I see a couple rn that's 2YOE but some of them have this 1 year out of work requirement

[stable ravine]

amazon?

[neon spoke]

ye

[stable ravine]

do you have work exp?

[neon spoke]

yea like 1.5 years post grad FT

[stable ravine]

you can apply then

[urban ore]

[stable ravine]

all I need is 900bucks per month to not become a hobo

[bronze raptor]

anyone got oa from Splunk?

Is it just a standard oa as other company?

[atomic pike]

Are there usually more ng jobs for Canada posted after Jan

I need some copium rn

[fickle lotus]

Yes

A lot of companies here don't follow the US big tech cycle

[hallow sapphire]

^

[echo latch]

ik at least drw montreal is supposed to open in jan

[real island]

Need job plz

😔

[tall geyser]

https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/1166519426066169947

could someone plz roast my resume? at this point imma just wait till january to apply since i ain't hearing back at all 😭

[real island]

Done

[simple python]

i got gapped by every resume i see

[tall geyser]

thank you so much!!! really good advice 🙏

[real island]

Npnp

😯

In this economy I’d pay $60 for an offer

And you get to see Google office

😔

Ye

And maybe food if they are giving

50 holy

What they gonna take you on

Oh lmaoooo

[drifting shore]

Bruh

Wat

[real island]

Bruh I swear I don’t get any cool events like that

🥲

[drifting shore]

Guaranteed google phone?

[vivid fiber]

Yooo congrats

Oh

[weak gazelle]

One shortcoming of your resume is the lack of 3x FAANG

because it’s cheaper in India

US has ~ 10x SWEs compared to Canada

[drifting shore]

Wats the deadline to apply? Might apply if I fumble the final

[echo latch]

well it takes time to build up that same kind of infra in canada

google and amazon are more or less the only faang companies w a canadian presence that's comparable to their big state counterparts in the US

[ashen mason]

goog canada is like 4k employees. in US they have like 50k+

[weak gazelle]

He said big state

[meager cairn]

yea but canada

is 40mil pop

[weak gazelle]

also Canada has ten times less people

[meager cairn]

yea

[weak gazelle]

Google Canada comparable to Google Texas

[vivid fiber]

Canada also has 10% of the US population

[ashen mason]

its 50k+ for california alone iirc

i think this data is public

[drifting shore]

Cali population > Canada population

[weak gazelle]

Tokyo population > Canada population

[fickle juniper]

Cali gdp > Canada gdp (by a lot)

[echo latch]

Well Google didn’t start in Canada did they? Along w the other points made here, with Google’s Toronto expansion they’re making a 400k sqfoot new building

It’s j not realistic to compare US numbers to Canada numbers they can’t magically conjure up a second googleplex anytime they want

[weak gazelle]

Why doesn’t US just make Canada the 51st state or smth

More area for them

[mint gorge]

how about we make the US part of canada

[weak gazelle]

• most Canadians would probably want that

[mint gorge]

they can suffer with us

[drifting shore]

more poverty for them

[weak gazelle]

Then Alaska would not be disconnected

from mainland USA

[weak gazelle]

They have more than enough money

[drifting shore]

tru

[fallen mason]

how long do background checks take?

i submitted through first advantage, and I have 2 unpaid internships on my resume

they didn't ask me any details about the unpaid internships though

[ashen mason]

ya im just salty they dont have presence in vancouver while msft and amzn do. even fb and apple hire in vancouver

and there is no new office in toronto? theres a new building in waterloo tho. not open yet

[fallen mason]

jeez 3 weeks is crazy

[magic perch]

this but unironically, tech companies can hire the best and smartest x% of the country for the equivalent of 40-60k USD

[weak gazelle]

They’re already doing that

Or more

Senior SWE at Uber making like 200k USD in India

[teal remnant]

Ok

[lapis tide]

it means you pay $5 instead of like 70 for some chinese dudes stripe interview experience

no

they post about what question was asked

🤣

prolly idk

stop deleting mf

thank you

[left plover]

Wait how wtf

[real island]

WTFFF

200K USD in India??

[weak gazelle]

Or more

Senior SWE in Canada makes same as senior SWE in India

In absolute terms

Not actually but similar

[lapis tide]

what makes hydera

[weak gazelle]

?

Oh

[vivid fiber]

Did you mean Hydra? The Postgres extension that enables support for columnar data?

[night snow]

Indian tech market is insanely competitive

[weak gazelle]

As if Canadian and US tech markets are not

But sure relatively probably more

[soft hamlet]

India is harder

[lapis tide]

no idea what that is

[vivid fiber]

Then why did you say it

[weak gazelle]

I mean

What’s the point if people can’t get job in either

[vivid fiber]

https://github.com/hydradatabase/hydra

[soft hamlet]

I NEED JOB

I NEED JOB

[weak gazelle]

Doesn’t anther what is “harder”

Matter

[soft hamlet]

[stable ravine]

hail hydra 🫡

[vivid fiber]

Not true imo

[lapis tide]

everyone wants to quant

[soft hamlet]

I don't want to go to quant

[weak gazelle]

Yea but tons go to Hong Kong/Singapore for quant

And make the same

[soft hamlet]

I'm Carleton-gapped

[vivid fiber]

You're conflating job market difficulty with talent

[lapis tide]

thats also comparable to js pay

[vivid fiber]

I tink India is on par in terms of talent

It's just a much larger population

So the difficulty to get a job is higher

[night snow]

India' economy is still mostly agricultural based
Their unemployment rate for post secondary grads is the highest among all education levels at close to 20%

[weak gazelle]

Wdym

[vivid fiber]

Oh i mistyped

[weak gazelle]

Probably harder lol

[vivid fiber]

I meant i tink

[lapis tide]

j has experience with all interviews

from indian big tech to NA quant

[vivid fiber]

I kno J

Same uni

[stable ravine]

j teach me

[weak gazelle]

Cuz of the sheer number of youth in India, there aren’t enough jobs to go around
But pretty much every big American company outsources to India and that’s only gonna increase

[vivid fiber]

I've never interviewed before

[weak gazelle]

As the quality of talent gets better

And as tools get better

[lapis tide]

[vivid fiber]

So everything I'm saying is just my opinion based off this discord

[lapis tide]

fr dude

[vivid fiber]

I'm actually applying like crazy rn

Job market so tuff

[lapis tide]

so true bestie

[vivid fiber]

Idk who u r

Don't call me besti

[lapis tide]

so true

[vivid fiber]

Tanks

[fickle lotus]

bestie

[night snow]

❤️🥹 besties

[weak gazelle]

I know a Senior SWE at Google in Sunnyvale who wants to move back to India
PPP wise he’ll make a lot more money there + he can be smth like director of Google India

And probably make millions

[lapis tide]

senior swe to director

straightforward promotion

[weak gazelle]

No actually

Probably senior staff to director

[lapis tide]

you said senior

[weak gazelle]

He wants to move back in 3 years

And 3 years back he was an intern

At Google

[lapis tide]

senior to seniotr staff in 3 years?

thats fucked

[weak gazelle]

[lapis tide]

meesta raccoon

[magic perch]

Yeah fr y’all ever seen the average Indian uni student LinkedIn? 600 lc questions is like the norm

[fickle lotus]

their neetcode 150 is striver a2z (455 questions) 💀

[eternal fossil]

just checked this out

tbh it looks like a good way to get a solid grasp of concepts

[weak gazelle]

Uni name really matters in India though, unlike NA

If you go to a top uni it’s a lot easier to land a top job

like someone at IIT can probably land Google easier than someone at UC Berkeley

Cuz of how much the uni name matters there

Though tbf it’s a lot harder to land IIT

[night snow]

Yeah that tends to be the case in most Asian countries

Chinese and Korean families too would send their children to more schooling after school from a young age to try to get a leg up from their peers

[stable ravine]

mine is blind 75

[fickle lotus]

yeah I think it's great long-term approach

[eternal fossil]

ya

[oblique quiver]

damn 👀

there are like some

pre clever stuff there

woo

[stable ravine]

manulife associate full-stack sde dropped rejection

[urban ore]

@sudden spruce

[sudden spruce]

[urban ore]

o

[sudden spruce]

🐸 o

[urban ore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/896597712986865684.webp?size=240&quality=lossless

[sudden spruce]

🖕

[icy cave]

why is bro acting tough on discord

[candid lance]

anyone hear back after Interac one way?

[worldly ridge]

is strivers list actualy 455 questions

💀

no

[real island]

455 holy

💀

[analog current]

how is mobile dev market in canada

im canadian

[teal remnant]

Pretty good actually

[analog current]

better than web dev|

?

i see to mny kids my age (second year) going to web

so i was thinking mobile

[analog current]

u ios or android?

[teal remnant]

Better than web maybe I got more response for mobile with 0 mobile experience

[analog current]

daym

are u ios

or androdi

[teal remnant]

Neither

I am not mobile

[analog current]

then how uk mobile dev is better