canada

[weak gazelle]

Same for blackberry

he will think that

[lapis tide]

what about amd

[weak gazelle]

It’s the phone company

[tawny zephyr]

blackberry stock was up

[paper ether]

amd not in ottawa

[vernal sigil]

Depends on the city

[lapis tide]

cant believe he'll make you the ceo of amd

[paper ether]

Toronto internships salaries fuckin suck tho compared to cost of living

it's crazy

i see a lot of places giving like 25/h

[vernal sigil]

35 in Vancouver is like 20 in mtl

[tawny zephyr]

yeah

[paper ether]

like how do u expect me to live in Toronto on 25/h

[tawny zephyr]

u dont

I am going to pay my friend in mississauga

500 / month

to let me stay over

[paper ether]

like 35/h in toronto is similar to 30/h ottawa

[weak gazelle]

Transit

[paper ether]

just cost of living

so it's not too bad in terms of Canada

[vernal sigil]

How u pay ur rent with 30/h

[paper ether]

i dont pay rent

LOL

i just save

(live at home)

[tawny zephyr]

4800 / month

[paper ether]

but I save more than rent

[tawny zephyr]

- 2k for rent

[paper ether]

ik some people renting in ottawa for 600/month

[vernal sigil]

Before taxes

[tawny zephyr]

yeah

[vernal sigil]

With 50/h half my pay went to rent after taxes

[paper ether]

i make 28, and I get like 1900 post tax

[tawny zephyr]

taxes take solid chunk

[tawny zephyr]

WTF

[weak gazelle]

Ain’t no way

[paper ether]

on god

[weak gazelle]

ain’t no way

[tawny zephyr]

ur lying

[paper ether]

per paychecque

[tawny zephyr]

no way

[paper ether]

ON GOD

[tawny zephyr]

bi weekly?

[weak gazelle]

still ain’t no way

[paper ether]

yeah

[tawny zephyr]

ok thats good

[paper ether]

CHECK MY PAY STUB

[tawny zephyr]

3800 / month

[weak gazelle]

How u making 1900 biweekly

[tawny zephyr]

post tax?

[weak gazelle]

with 29

28

[paper ether]

yuh

[weak gazelle]

I’m saying that’s too much

[tawny zephyr]

3800 / month is still solid

[vernal sigil]

15% tax?

[paper ether]

lemme check my stub

[tawny zephyr]

I thought he meant 1900 / month

I was like

😵

[paper ether]

i made 2300 / m on my last

internship

fucking shit

[weak gazelle]

yea but I said ain’t no way cuz I knew he either meant once a month or one every two weeks

Both of which shouldn’t be possible

[paper ether]

Ill screenshot it

[tawny zephyr]

on 28 / hr

[paper ether]

no

[weak gazelle]

unless you’re using your tax credits

[paper ether]

18.08

i am not

[tawny zephyr]

crazy

yeah no

I am not living in Canada

[vernal sigil]

Ye my biweekly was 2750 and my roommate with international tuition was 3400. Same salary

[tawny zephyr]

I cant part with that muc hmoney

[paper ether]

but that was like the worst internship

like that is like bottom 5%

[weak gazelle]

yes cuz they smartly used the unused tuition credits

[paper ether]

just got unluicky

[weak gazelle]

I should have used the T1213 at the starting of my work term

No lmao

[vernal sigil]

Wdym smartly. They ask u what tax credits you’re eligible for before starting

[paper ether]

my paystub sint loading

[weak gazelle]

not for unused credits

if Amazon did good on them

[paper ether]

yeah the site is down

[weak gazelle]

Everyone gets tuition tax crddits

Credits

International tuition is muchhh higher

So absolute value of credits is more

I think it’s 15 percent of total tuition paid

[vernal sigil]

Wdym. It’s mandatory to fill a td1 when u start a new job

[paper ether]

yeah i filled my TD1

[weak gazelle]

Yes but my company didn’t use the TD1 for the usused credits

Even though I filled it

They said the unused credits would be another form

Which is technically how it’s supposed to be done

TD1 only counts the tuition credits for that year

It’s the T1213 form

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/forms-publications/forms/t1213.html

[placid dawn]

i build these pages

there is so much code going into a simple page like that its crazy

[weak gazelle]

thank u for your service

[weak gazelle]

I can’t tell if that’s sarcasm

[grave quest]

@weak gazelle

hi

[placid dawn]

yee

[placid dawn]

not like these but the ones that have input fields are very complex

from what ive been told this is what happens when u hire 30 developers to create a simple task that 1 developer could do

shit gets over engineered

[hallow urchin]

anybody hear from amazon canad

[vernal sigil]

They not hiring

[hallow urchin]

CAP ???

[weak gazelle]

same

[weak gazelle]

hi

[vernal sigil]

!cap

[grave quest]

ye got a confirmation

[smoky flare]

Even the new graduate business intelligence position?

[vernal sigil]

Idk about that one but it pays 🥜

It pays less than sde intern

[analog current]

fuck canada dawg

I HATE IT HERE

[frozen brook]

Is $40 cad decent for internship?

[analog current]

yes

very

most jobs here pay

$20-28 bucks an hour

SHITHOLE

THIS IS A FUCKINNNNNNNNN SHITHOLE

[frozen brook]

oh shit.. i guess i got lucky with company then o.o

[raw ocean]

real

[normal jetty]

What company pls

I need 40 dollars

[frozen brook]

i mean, i got 35 rn, but ill probably negociate for more and trying to think of a good number

[smoky flare]

[normal jetty]

You manifested it

[frozen brook]

indeed

[vernal sigil]

Bro stalked 1 month of messages

[real island]

Real

[real island]

Yeah on the higher end

[vivid fiber]

It's rlly good lol

[real island]

Ikr

I heard hubspot pays $40

[hot rapids]

cisco canada : )

[quartz ridge]

congrats on Asana buddy

[barren sinew]

$28 is more than some full time jobs in some other industries. It's not all that bad (although every industry should ask for more)

It's also an internship, I know people who went from that to $200k new grad

[worldly ridge]

@weak gazelle Tech workers before 2023:

tech workers now:

https://tenor.com/view/all-is-well-all-izz-well-3idiots-three-idiots-3idiotas-gif-16016223

bro I just realized its a 3 hour movie

I thought i was ognna be finished at the 2 hour mark

[echo latch]

Yooo

Good movie

[worldly ridge]

yeah I agree been enjoyuing it. I need to finish it still, but gotta 🛏️

[stable ravine]

[dapper thorn]

October surge 🥴

[grave quest]

@worldly ridge if u need a swe job, more than happy to refer

[cinder kraken]

Anyone getting new grad offers?

[prime osprey]

not even getting interview my g

[broken whale]

Bro

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-guess-ill-die-ill-die-gif-12053906

[wheat comet]

good eats

[zinc knot]

mm proten

[simple python]

https://tenor.com/view/glumbocorp-glumbo-we-eating-good-tonight-mickey-mouse-mickey-mouse-sliced-bread-gif-27455478

[quartz ridge]

In Canada , 40/hour for internship is prob top 1% lmao

That’s like what.. 85k a year? More than like 70% of new grad jobs

[sly kindle]

Funny because that’s a garbage wage in the USA

That’s like 60k USD a year

[quartz ridge]

cant make a fair compairosn between canada and us lol

if u live in canada u talk about canada wages

[soft hamlet]

Eh there are a decent amount of them in Ottawa, not a lot but a good amount

[quartz ridge]

For example?

[weak gazelle]

like what

[quartz ridge]

I can only think of Cisco

Off the top lol

[soft hamlet]

Cisco ;>

Uhhh

Shopify used to (rip Shopify)

[quartz ridge]

They’re not hiring

[soft hamlet]

Nokia for 4th years you can negotiate

[quartz ridge]

Brother that’s like 1

[weak gazelle]

aint no way is nokia paying 40

[soft hamlet]

Kinaxis but those are 8-12 month

[quartz ridge]

Shopify isn’t hiring, Nokia needs nego

[weak gazelle]

aint no way is kinaxis paying 40 either

[quartz ridge]

I reckon Nokia and Kinaxis pay like 35 max

[soft hamlet]

Near end of grad they try to get return student

[quartz ridge]

And that’s pushing it already

[weak gazelle]

what is kinaxis NG

[quartz ridge]

Nokia does pay 95 ng

[soft hamlet]

Nokia pays 3rd year fall (2nd co-op term) 33/hr, goes up every term you have done previously

[quartz ridge]

RBC is like 90

But I’m talking internship lo

[soft hamlet]

First co-op term is 28.80

[weak gazelle]

that's very good fora first co-op term

[soft hamlet]

Nokia also does hire like 200 students during summer so 😭

Like 60% of them are QA tho

[soft hamlet]

Hiring freeze rn for new grad

Not a good time

[soft hamlet]

I think I did fine with my 26/hr

[weak gazelle]

i didn't know nokia mainly hired in india

but i guess makes sense

it's big there

[soft hamlet]

They have a huge office

[quartz ridge]

It’s actually quite sad Shopify doesn’t hire anymore

Shopify used to be like amazon

[soft hamlet]

Their web developers sometimes have PHDs

[quartz ridge]

In the sense that if you landed Shopify you are basically guaranteed big internships after

[soft hamlet]

They pay an abnormal amount compared to local salaries

So they get super accomplished people

[quartz ridge]

Shopify stopping hiring was a big hit to Canadians

[robust lotus]

more than most loo 1st coops I've seen

[weak gazelle]

@vernal sigil still more than canadian salaries when you consider PPP

[soft hamlet]

Yeah

[vernal sigil]

What’s ppp

[soft hamlet]

At some point they were hiring over 10% of Carleton new grads

[quartz ridge]

Most coops in general are like 20-30 range in Canada

[soft hamlet]

It was ridiculous

[weak gazelle]

purchasing power

[quartz ridge]

So getting over 30 as an intern you should be very happy if you’re in that boat

[soft hamlet]

I'm sort of close hopefully I get to that for my next term

[weak gazelle]

purchasing power of 30k CAD in India = purchasing power of 120k in Canada

[quartz ridge]

What year?

[soft hamlet]

My first internship was first year summer

I'm applying for second year summer

[quartz ridge]

You’re way ahead of the curve

[wooden lichen]

how has that been going canada is so dry rn

[soft hamlet]

30+ rej

[vernal sigil]

If the indian person comes here they can’t afford anything. If the Canadian person goes there they can buy whatever they want

[quartz ridge]

Most people get 0 internships, or 1 internships as a junior

[soft hamlet]

But mostly applying to US rn

[wooden lichen]

same

[quartz ridge]

Then grad

[wooden lichen]

yeah

[soft hamlet]

More than half my school I think gets something in soph

[quartz ridge]

What school is this?

[weak gazelle]

how does that make any sense
canadian people making canadian salaries are living in Canada

[quartz ridge]

Loo?

[weak gazelle]

indian people making indian salaries are living in india

[soft hamlet]

No

Carleton

We have a lot of undisputed jobs

Who tf wants to go to ottawa

[vernal sigil]

It’s better to make more money regardless if u have the same purchasing power

[weak gazelle]

that's the stupidest argument i've ever seen

[soft hamlet]

[weak gazelle]

yea sure then go and make 100k. USD in switzerland

and be like oh wow that's such a good salary

[teal remnant]

Anybody heard back from zon

[vernal sigil]

Thats not the same purchasing power

[weak gazelle]

wdym by that, that's obvious

that wasn't my point

[quartz ridge]

I heard Carleton isn’t that great

But if they offer so many coops

[vernal sigil]

^

[quartz ridge]

Could be a worth trade off

[weak gazelle]

you said this

[soft hamlet]

I don't regret going to Carleton whatsoever

It's gotten way better in the past 5 years

The program also grew 70% in size

LOL

Carleton offers a couple speedrun strats as well to get into degree courses a year early

And you can take co-op terms whenever you want

Also we build cool stuff like search engine and neural net in first year for the speedrun

[quartz ridge]

I heard Carleton had a DevDegree

[soft hamlet]

We're kind of short in terms of profs tho

[quartz ridge]

Have you looked into that

[soft hamlet]

So it causes some overcrowding

But it is what it is

[soft hamlet]

Got rejected twice

[quartz ridge]

Seems like you can get free 4 YOE at shopify

From DevDegree

[soft hamlet]

It's harder than getting into loo sometimes

Lower acceptance rate

[wooden lichen]

facts

they take 10-15 students a year or smth

[soft hamlet]

Well, it's part time work but you get like 50k TC, nearing 100k TC if international

They pay for your tuition as long as you are part of the program, no matter what it costs

[soft hamlet]

It was 40 or whatever during our year

But they reduced it because economy

[wooden lichen]

oh wtf

[soft hamlet]

Accelerated section was for dev degree but they let in as many non dd as dd students in the class

The class size was around 80

[quartz ridge]

Do you know how much they are paid for work during the degree? And how that translates to pay after?

Because you grad with like 4 YOE exp

Are you treated as mid level

Or nearing senior when you grad?

I’m actually curious how the compensation works

[soft hamlet]

It's not true 4 YoE since it's part time work

And the first year is basically a bootcamp

[quartz ridge]

On paper it looks like 4 YOE

[soft hamlet]

I can DM, I don't think I can say it publicly (my friends are in DD)

[quartz ridge]

You don’t need to specify part time on resume

Okay dm me

[weak gazelle]

dev degree sounds cool

[soft hamlet]

It's typical mid sized company ft intern pay

In terms of base salary + tuition

But you only work 25 hours (20 hours of work, 5 hours of personal development)

But if you are international, getting 48k in tuition paid for you is huge

[lapis tide]

summoning @vernal sigil

[vernal sigil]

Zon not hiring

[lapis tide]

thank you

i knew today was missing something

[placid dawn]

are these humans

[wooden lichen]

kms

[placid dawn]

says non impressive resume but T5 school

[wooden lichen]

hope i die

ive got ghosted from every company he mentioned

[placid dawn]

what are t5 schools

[quartz ridge]

dev degree comp isnt bad, its actually quite high considering you're working 20 hours instead of 40 hours

lol

hourly rate is actually very high lmfao

[oblique crater]

MIT, CMU, etc.

top 5 schools

[storm stream]

good one

[weak gazelle]

MIT, CMU, UofT

etc

[storm stream]

I did Golman OA like a million years ago and haven't heard since

[grave quest]

@weak gazelle do u want an internship in dt toronto, its like 30/hr, my company is hiring

can shoot u a dm

[weak gazelle]

rip inbox

[grave quest]

[weak gazelle]

dm me for microsoft recruiter email address

[teal remnant]

[tough knot]

Bro tried sneakin it in there

[weak gazelle]

wym UofT clearly T5

in Canada

[tough knot]

candian unis not in the top 10

[weak gazelle]

https://www.shanghairanking.com/rankings/gras/2022/RS0210

15

[broken whale]

Uoft

[echo latch]

uoft

[weak gazelle]

the famously best canadian university

[echo latch]

T1 for cs and engineering in Canada fr

[weak gazelle]

it actually is though

T1

fine

https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/university-subject-rankings/2023/computer-science-information-systems?&page=1

12th

[echo latch]

bro's singlehandedly carrying the uoft marketing team

[worldly ridge]

I love u Im currently employed for now 🫡 hope life is going well for you friend ❤️

[quartz ridge]

guys is York better or Ryerson?

Had a little debate with my step sis earlier today

[lapis tide]

dox

[quartz ridge]

lmaoo

[broken whale]

UOT

UOFT ❌

[teal remnant]

TMU, WLU

[unkempt rampart]

Is anybody else here practicing for MSFT SWE internship Vancouver?

[real island]

TMU def better lol

[real island]

You got interview?

[unkempt rampart]

yeah a while ago

[weak gazelle]

nah york > tmu for cs

[teal remnant]

Gib internship

[real island]

Dang glgl

What team was it for?

[real island]

🤓

[teal remnant]

Any luck for summer so far

[echo latch]

Gib job

[grave quest]

life is going well

[worldly ridge]

good to hear friend going to any concernts soon?

[grave quest]

a few, just 1 month until dec

how about you?

any plans?

[worldly ridge]

nice!!! what concerts??

going to italy for christmas 🫡

[grave quest]

gorgon city at rebel in oct
eli brown in december hopefully
and if the solaris music festival isnt dead in dec i shall go there too

[worldly ridge]

nicee

ur so cool

[storm stream]

drake shows are kinda mid

[tight gale]

Drakes best performance was still degrassi

[vernal sigil]

When is interview

[lunar sandal]

anyone

who made it to asana phone

what was ur codesignal score

[lunar sandal]

bro this is prolly soft rejection

ppl are alr getting GS hirevue and superday

im in the same boat stuck on"interview completed" after perfect oA

AND YOU MADE IT TO PHONE?

im sry that wasnt meant to be condescending

im tryna gauge what the minimum is lol i got 455

if i optimized q4 i'd have 500

just fuck that graph question

yk i had finding local maximum within an area in a graph

the DESCRIPTION said >=

the test case said > and only top k

and so mans only got 6/10

lmfao

fuck that question

[small arch]

I used to put them under achievements section. It helped land my first internship.

[lunar sandal]

so i gues

its like q3 q4

is a tossup

on where they decide to make it hard

stop saying congrats

i havent heard shit

wtf

u did the phone?

ahh

did they send a prep doc or some shiet

bro i..i took a screenshot of my scores per question before i clicked finish test

am i fucked for that

my gca aint verified yet gg

aight we'll see anyways

ty @unreal field enjoy sunday 🙂

van

2024 s

u?

[frozen brook]

oof, im comfortably sitting at 34 xD

[lunar sandal]

when did u get gca verification email doe

dude hearin gback after 39x is crazy

maybe its cuz u have to resume screen BEFORE the oa

WHAT THE FUCK LMFAO

how many ppl have got asana phone bro

that yk of

u have to either rizz up the recruiter, be mother Teresa incarnate on the behavioral, or get a 600 GCA

i think

[soft hamlet]

hc of 3

[lunar sandal]

to get 1/3 spots

[real island]

Which OA?

[lunar sandal]

asana

asana. PRoject Manaaaeeegement!

[real island]

Was it proctored?

[lunar sandal]

no

[soft hamlet]

project management is the devil

[real island]

Prob fine then tbh

[soft hamlet]

not the people

the tools

[lunar sandal]

sweet

man

i shouldnt bomb IBM oa this bad

i was expecting 500 score

on this one

wdym joever

u have the fucking phone bro

go study for it

[main grotto]

how do you check what score you got

[lunar sandal]

Says on codesignsl

[main grotto]

I thought it was hackerrank

no?

i got like 14 different OA's

from IBm

do i have to do them all

some for Canada, otheres for USA

[dark lintel]

Did any new grad opened this week?

[lunar sandal]

Not IBM I meant asana

Bro I’m praying asana sends phone LMFAO

[echo latch]

People have historically gotten asana with lower scores

They resume screen after OA as well

[lunar sandal]

We’re u reading the past

couple msgs

I think it’s cuz they screen pre OA

[stable ravine]

none

No one's hiring;

[dark lintel]

Em it's time to go run some ubers

for bread

[grave quest]

oh my

goodness gracious

[lunar sandal]

😗

[real island]

Hopefully Google drops Canada intern tomo 🙏

[echo latch]

Why not apply to US

[lunar sandal]

LMFAO

r u joking

Didn’t they alr drop in august and close in < a week

[lapis tide]

june

[lunar sandal]

ye June

[dark lintel]

Cause I'm international

[lapis tide]

i think that was a reachout exclusive req

[lunar sandal]

U 3rd yr ?

[lapis tide]

pey

[lunar sandal]

Ah ur doing pey rn eh

how is it

[lapis tide]

excellent

[lunar sandal]

No wonder this mf is so chill he’s immune to market conditions for the next year

[lapis tide]

now when did i indicated that i am chill

[echo latch]

But it doesn’t matter for an internship

Since it’s the same visa

[real island]

Nah

[echo latch]

It doesn’t matter for conversion either since you can return FT to Canada

[real island]

October 2nd people saying Google dropping

[lunar sandal]

??

[echo latch]

So you’re j losing out on money and having to deal w living in Waterloo for no reason

[real island]

I think they heard from a recruiter not too sure tho

[lunar sandal]

I’m co confused

[echo latch]

I’m p sure people were saying that’s when STEP is dropping idk about regular intern

[lunar sandal]

Wasn’t that literally the summer posting

[echo latch]

The earlier one? No

[lunar sandal]

bro we’re in 3rd year step is for the year below us

[echo latch]

That was for recruiter reach outs

[lunar sandal]

Huh

what’s the diff

[lapis tide]

with pey you can be both

[real island]

Oh only step?

[lunar sandal]

so ur saying Google isn’t out yet.. SWEET

[real island]

🥲

[echo latch]

Recruiters reach out to specific people and only those people are supposed to apply

[real island]

Imagine being reached out

[lapis tide]

Imagine being reached out

[lunar sandal]

why did I get profile view by Google recruiter when I applied then

[real island]

Huh

[lunar sandal]

[real island]

No way

You’re gonna make it

[lapis tide]

congrats on bing

[lunar sandal]

yes way I took that as a rejection lol

I never heard back thought g24 dream was over

[real island]

I feel like that was reachouts only

Back in June

[dark lintel]

yeah true but I'm looking for ng

[echo latch]

International gang

[lunar sandal]

Aren’t u like codeforces GM bro

[real island]

When does new grad usually drop historically?

[dark lintel]

And lots of the time if you intern in US it doesn't gurrantee you could be returned to Canada as ng

[echo latch]

what no I haven’t done lc since 2021

[lunar sandal]

What the hell! U graduated ?

Congrats on making it out of rat race

[lapis tide]

Congrats on joining the rat race

[echo latch]

For the most part yes, j not for google

Since you do PA match after your internship. I interned in the US and am hoping to return to Canada

[echo latch]

I graduate next year

[lunar sandal]

There it is

The Google internship

I knew it

Red names r always cracked

[dark lintel]

man I hope I could return to Canada too

[dark lintel]

but honestly I'm not sure the chance they gonna give me return offer

[lapis tide]

fuck off

[echo latch]

That’s fair

For most companies you return to the team you interned with

[dark lintel]

Given that your team has a headcount

[echo latch]

[lunar sandal]

bro ur in pey

chiLLL

im tryna get it like u tbh i havent gotten a single fucking interview yet

[lapis tide]

yeah but summer

[lunar sandal]

ah i c

[echo latch]

Tru that’s part of the good thing about Google ng ro

[lunar sandal]

urs was summer-winter?

[echo latch]

Your team doesn’t need to have HC

Some team somewhere in Google needs to

Canada tends to open late too

[dark lintel]

Interesting, and that team would willingly give up their hc for you to return to your team?

[real island]

Ah damn hopefully things work out

😭😭

[dark lintel]

Actually it was posted like a month ago lmao

[lunar sandal]

so guys

when is google s24 canada opening

??

[turbid island]

octorber 17 12am

[lunar sandal]

sourcE?

(u made it the fuck up?)

[real island]

😢 dang…

[lunar sandal]

where r yall gettin this info

[lapis tide]

google

[lunar sandal]

what chatroom in what dungeon in who's basement

[echo latch]

How it works is

You get PA (org) match and you sign offer
Near your start date you have short interviews w team managers from that org and if there’s a match you join that team

[dark lintel]

An I'm pretty sure I did the OA for c1 ng Canada swe weeks ago

[turbid island]

i got it from recruiter

[e-mail]

[dark lintel]

oh icic

[real island]

Wait what’s MQF?

[lunar sandal]

lmfao

i'll take ur word for it

[lapis tide]

is this fr?

[turbid island]

no bruh

[real island]

💀

Oh I see

[lapis tide]

i will get in touch with him immediately

[lunar sandal]

likewise.

[dark lintel]

no

also got a really low score so

I'm not coping

[echo latch]

C1 gca is harder to not pass

You should be ok

[dark lintel]

ok I hope

[real island]

Real

[dark lintel]

but they are not hiring many people

and we all applied

so

[echo latch]

What the

Wrong photo

[lunar sandal]

ily

[real island]

Bro rizzed me up

[dark lintel]

idk man

[echo latch]

Bro you’re cracked

Wym

I barely passed calc 1 and lin alg first-year

[dark lintel]

Coping real good for nuro return now

[echo latch]

Quant

[timid tartan]

Has anyone heard back from IBM for new grad?

Are they just ghosting everyone or what wtf

The problem this time is that virtually everybody got full 600/600

So idek how they are gonna use that OA anymore

Yea nothing

Maybe I didn't do it quickly enough

Looks like I'm never good enough for IBM

Yea ik

[drifting shore]

overqualified

i thought 600 = u solve every problem

[lapis tide]

not anymore

[drifting shore]

840 old gca = 600 new gca

[dapper thorn]

cse?

yea i did it too but I had a family friend who did a few years ago, and they took like 8 months to get back to him😭

and then he got rejected cuz his like super distant relative was like associated with some shit overseas

i just did em cuz i dont really have much goin on tbh, not really expecting much

[echo latch]

Some high-clearance jobs have bg checks that are like 8 months long or something

[dapper thorn]

I think cse is like one of the higher clearances

gotta do polygraph tests n shit

[fickle lotus]

Ye lowest band is 90k min

[dapper thorn]

i got 4 too, only did 3

they got the proof right here now

[fickle lotus]

Gotta be honest throughout the whole process, they don't care if you did but if you lie it's gg. However usage in the past year is a no no

[fickle lotus]

Idk what you're talking about

Still gonna apply tho once I stop being lazy about the cover letter

[hot rapids]

I remember one swe intern interview for the govt was just a 30 min phone with no technical lol

[fickle lotus]

Ye they're looking for honesty, ppl have gotten highest clearance with past drug usage

[hot rapids]

Crazy that you can get hired off a 30 min non technical phone

[lunar sandal]

are all yall ngs

[fickle lotus]

I am yes

[dapper thorn]

for RCMP i got a call from a private caller to set up an interview for coop, then they never called on the interview date and I had no way to reach out

[hot rapids]

The hardest Q is “why do you want to work for the govt”

[lunar sandal]

i just wanna

get a job bro ! 😦

@unreal field cya in Van

[dapper thorn]

I love my glorious country and will stop at nothing to preserve its security and freedom!

[weak gazelle]

dont' you have tiktok offer

[lunar sandal]

no LMFAO i didnt even get the written test that im supposed to get

been like 2 weeks

ingmi

[fickle lotus]

Shii they ask sql on the hackerrank? Or is just questions on whichever language you picked?

[lunar sandal]

yea hackerrank has sql now lol

[fickle lotus]

Bruh

[dapper thorn]

for cse?

[fickle lotus]

Haven't touched it in forever

[fickle lotus]

Ye for cse

[dapper thorn]

nah was just whatever language

[fickle lotus]

Ooh gotchu

[dapper thorn]

have fun doing LC in js

[fickle lotus]

Ignore me am confused guys

[lunar sandal]

WTF THEY ASK SQL ON CO OP?

bro

thats foacked

[hot rapids]

Doesn’t tik tok intern OA have an SQL component?

[fickle lotus]

I defs need to review my SQL, been years since my db course

[hot rapids]

My recruiter for epic games got laid off, my take home is fr going into the void

[fickle lotus]

Bro epic is doing layoffs tf

I thought healthcare adjacent tech was impervious rip

Oh

LMAO

[dark lintel]

lmao

[fickle lotus]

bruh that 4 hour OA

I associate anything "Epic" with them now

💀

[tawny zephyr]

epic games?

[hot rapids]

So many game studios doing layoffs rn, it’s like a chain reaction

[fickle juniper]

Oh shite

Beyond the epic one?

[hot rapids]

Ubisoft too

And loooots of smaller studios

And also lots of game studios closing down

Blizzard did some too, I think for hearthstone mostly

[fickle lotus]

Over before it began

Must return to fetus

[sly kindle]

Damn yo economy is CONTRACTING

Armageddon

Blood in the streets!

[lunar sandal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEA0btSNkpw

[timid tartan]

Idk, there has been a great surge of people getting 600/600 honestly

At least that's what I've seen so far

[lunar sandal]

Blud discovered what cheating is

[timid tartan]

You can't cheat

It's proctored

[lunar sandal]

proctored how

[timid tartan]

Or at least it's not worth the risk

[timid tartan]

C1's GCA is proctored

[lunar sandal]

yes but how

[timid tartan]

Webcam, screen recording, audio recording

[lunar sandal]

Oh shit

[timid tartan]

Why are you surprised lmfao

That's pretty common

[stable ravine]

anyone who is cheating will get caught on live interview

[timid tartan]

I think you can still cheat if you're smart enough

BUT it's not worth the risk IMO

[lunar sandal]

not all of that tho

[timid tartan]

Too much work

[lunar sandal]

bro you over estimate

Code signal verification Threshold

[timid tartan]

I mean

Not worth the risk regardless man lol

[lunar sandal]

I applied to NG role so my friends could know what kinds of questions they give ( for block/ square )

[timid tartan]

Or at least not for me

[lunar sandal]

And I was legit singing in the mic

and my gca came back as verified

[timid tartan]

Lol

[lunar sandal]

even tho I’m talking to them

[timid tartan]

Idk

I don't wanna risk anything

[lunar sandal]

u do u bro

[timid tartan]

Just don't wanna repeat bcs it's a waste of time

[lunar sandal]

People are definitely cheating though.

[timid tartan]

It's fine

[lunar sandal]

Wait you can repeat GCA?

[timid tartan]

That's life

[lunar sandal]

WTF?

[timid tartan]

No

[stable ravine]

no

[lunar sandal]

oh

[stable ravine]

I wanted to retake my gca ;/

[timid tartan]

I don't see the point of cheating tho

Bcs you'll most likely get destroyed in the live interview anyway

[stable ravine]

true, you're just wasting your time by cheating on OA's

unless you become super lucky and they ask you common lc questions on live

[lunar sandal]

you do know OA Q difficulty is sometimes harder Than the actual ws they ask you right

[lapis tide]

depends on your luck with gcf q4

[lunar sandal]

I mean are you guys fucking retarded ?

[lapis tide]

yes

[timid tartan]

????

[lunar sandal]

the level of brain dead arguments I’ve heard

[timid tartan]

What

Lmao ok whatever

[lunar sandal]

You can absolutely make it through the life interview

[stable ravine]

;[ bro is insulting me for being truthful

[lunar sandal]

Even if u cheat

[timid tartan]

Yes I know

[lunar sandal]

they send u a fucking document

[timid tartan]

Of course you CAN

[lunar sandal]

With prep

for the phone.

Yes and more people pull it off than you think they do

[stable ravine]

i dont get you wtf?

[timid tartan]

So?

[lunar sandal]

if u make a phone

They generally let I know what to expect

[timid tartan]

Yea kinda

[lunar sandal]

So it’s contained practice

[stable ravine]

[lunar sandal]

If u get practice qs with dp on strings

Like word break

Then you know they’ll ask smth along that

[stable ravine]

ez

[timid tartan]

You know what we can agree to disagree lol

[timid tartan]

Ikr

[stable ravine]

like?

[lunar sandal]

like a word break on anagrams

[stable ravine]

memoization -> tabulation?

[lunar sandal]

Of word

Instead of the actual words in the duct

[lapis tide]

tf is word break

🤣

[timid tartan]

It's a question on LC I think

[stable ravine]

it's a dp question

that's pretty common

[timid tartan]

Well I exaggerated a bit, of course not 100% of applicants lol

[stable ravine]

it's just that this server is cracked af

[lunar sandal]

So nothing bro

[timid tartan]

But the number of those people seems to be many more than in the previous system

[lunar sandal]

this guy just dooms constantly

[stable ravine]

I know a lot of ppl who struggle with nested for loops

[lunar sandal]

I think ur shooting urself in the foot with this attitude

[timid tartan]

Ok let's stop right here

[lunar sandal]

or what ?

[timid tartan]

??????

[lunar sandal]

🤣😂🤣

[lapis tide]

thank you bro

[timid tartan]

What are you on

[lapis tide]

youve not berated steven in many days

i missed it

[lunar sandal]

I’m on nothing bro you’re just

Idk ur deep in the Labrinth

Of despair

Go pick up a fucking book

[timid tartan]

....

[lunar sandal]

and get urself out of own head

[lapis tide]

love to see it

[lunar sandal]

I would rather be me with my measly one internship

Then you with 3 faang

[timid tartan]

Idk why you are suddenly attacking me

[lunar sandal]

And a displeasure

[stable ravine]

me 🤓

[lunar sandal]

cuz u constantly doom

what abt the lurkers in this sub

[timid tartan]

Ok I'll shut up

Happy?

[lunar sandal]

They’re gonna think u need to be codeforces GM

to land fucking RBC

[lapis tide]

steven has one faang

[stable ravine]

Ima grind 24x7 x1yr and gona try my luck at FAANG then fuck it

[timid tartan]

I'm done with this channel

[lunar sandal]

good

[timid tartan]

Whatever

[lapis tide]

😔

[lunar sandal]

Go take a walk

[lapis tide]

dont leave

[timid tartan]

The heck are you on lmfao

I haven't even done anything in the last few mins

[lunar sandal]

I’m on nothing I’m just tired of your constant doom n gloom bro lol

this guy doom n gloomed the chillest career fair in existence

and u know ur doing it too

[timid tartan]

I didn't doom about it

[stable ravine]

[timid tartan]

I just said the fact that 10 am was crowded

Not sure why you think I lied

[lunar sandal]

U can’t handle not getting offers for a couple weeks when recruiting season isn’t in kick in a bad market, even with ur amazing resume

idk

[stable ravine]

I doubt my existence after reading cscareers sub threads/cmts

[timid tartan]

Not that I can't handle lmao I was just ranting but yea it's okay 🙂

[lunar sandal]

it just kills the mood

[lapis tide]

like 2024_summer

worst channel

[lunar sandal]

man like me gets the citadel OA, knows his place, screenshots the qs for later practice, and just closes the OA

[timid tartan]

Btw @lunar sandal you can always block me if you don't wanna see my msgs tho 🙂

[stable ravine]

some ppl be like is 200kTC good for new grads? I know it's less but it's all I got plus 10+ other offers with 150k TC

[lapis tide]

i need you twos interactions

it gives me life

[timid tartan]

Hell no lmao

[stable ravine]

wdym

[timid tartan]

Man literally comes out of nowhere to attack me

I was just talking about being honest on OAs

And then suddenly the convo steers on that direction

Like what the...

[lunar sandal]

Steers cuz that’s what we’re all thinking

[timid tartan]

But why do you need to bring it up again?

[lunar sandal]

And I need a PEY

cuz u don’t stop buddy

[timid tartan]

I was ranting yes but I didn't even talk about it lmao

[lapis tide]

good thing we'll both get what we want

[lunar sandal]

[timid tartan]

Whatever man

[stable ravine]

where r the ng roles at ;/

Ima go crazy soon

last 2 weeks 0 posting

[real island]

💀💀💀💀

What did I walk into

[timid tartan]

Same

Not sure what happened lol

[real island]

😭😭😭

[timid tartan]

Idk, I guess being honest is wrong in this era...

[lunar sandal]

my bad bro i get ng market is tough, but being depresso doesnt rlly change the situation.

[timid tartan]

I know it doesn't

[lunar sandal]

plus u have 3 year buffer after grad

[timid tartan]

I'm not that naive either 🙂

[timid tartan]

And yes I do know that too

[lunar sandal]

so just chill

[timid tartan]

I wanted to respond to this but I'll shut my mouth up instead

[tight gale]

Isn't it 1?

[lunar sandal]

i mean for his PR related affairs

yeah career wise its 1 before ur fucked lol

[tight gale]

Ah I see

[timid tartan]

Not too concerned about this one tbh bcs being an SWE forever is never my goal

[timid tartan]

And I don't really care about that PR thing either. If I get it, great. If I don't, then it's fine

[stable ravine]

only perks of choosing canada over us

[lunar sandal]

so whats the stress abt lol

[timid tartan]

I don't want to tell you bcs you'll attack me with that answer in the future 🙂

[lunar sandal]

those are the two prime factors u shud be worried abt as an intl ng prospective

idk if ur goal isnt naturalization nor is it better career trajectory

[timid tartan]

Yep I get it, but it just doesn't really apply in my situation

[timid tartan]

It's better if I keep it to myself because my answer is going to be extremely self-deprecating / toxic

[lunar sandal]

oh okay

[timid tartan]

Yea, I'm actively trying to stop "harming" myself but it hasn't been easy 🙂

Anyway, I don't want to talk about this any further lol

[untold geode]

Anyone know where meet ups are happening in Ontario or BC

Or any resource that centralizes all these said meet-ups

[hot rapids]

Feel free to dm me if you ever wanna chat homie, definitely a rough time for folks 🥲

[faint echo]

theres like 20-30 new grad postings max but like the amount of applicants is insanely high the market is for sure terrible

yeah my situation is fine im ok with no job for a while xd but it is depressing to not be able to see the end of the tunnel

[lunar sandal]

aka the most irrelevant, time wasting thought to preoccupy yourself with for an entire year

[faint echo]

its harder for me because im a new grad with no cool projects or relevant work experience and from a not top school but im working on that and hopefully in a few months ill be able to have something

i kinda wish there were some startups to get into but i havent seen many of those

yeah right now im doing an unpaid internship / volunteer type thing cuz im desperate for experience

[untold geode]

Bruh aint no way

Im bout to start listing command line

Pycharm

Androdi studio

Xcode

Any other buzz word I can come up with

[lunar sandal]

isnt next weekend long weekend

[raw ocean]

what holiday is tmrw 😭

[crisp bane]

Anybody in Toronto, What you guys think of a meetup?

[normal jetty]

It’s only a holiday for government workers I think

Or if ur province observes it (on doesn’t)

[analog current]

is anyone engsci

[timid tartan]

Thanks! It's fine though. I just need to try harder and get my life together

[real island]

💀💀💀

[prime osprey]

a couple loonies and toonies

[worldly ridge]

October overflow of jobs this monday guys?

[lapis tide]

Yeah

[echo latch]

I’m j tryna hear back

[real island]

GOOGLEEE OUT

WHAT DID I SAY

https://www.google.com/about/careers/applications/jobs/results/100145136748372678-software-developer-intern-bs-summer-2024?distance=50&jex=ENTRY_LEVEL

Lowkey I have a recruiter email from a rejection last year

I’m gonna email them

[echo latch]

im surprised they're out

[real island]

Real

[echo latch]

does this mean ill hear back this week

[real island]

💀💀💀💀💀

[dark lintel]

Is google ng out yet

[real island]

Forgot about that

[real island]

Not sure didn’t check

[dark lintel]

Okok

[echo latch]

i doubt google ng will come out

[dark lintel]

4 week

Actually 5 weeks

[echo latch]

his process is much longer than yours

[dark lintel]

No

That’s good

[echo latch]

you dont need to go to the embassy or anything

you j wait until cultural vistas or whatever sends you a package and that's it

[dark lintel]

4-5 weeks was how long it took me not counting in going to embassy

No

[echo latch]

maybe google's j insanely fast

i got to pick the premium processing option for free and i got the cv side of things within a week

[dark lintel]

You actually don’t even need to take 5 courses this semester

I didn’t

[echo latch]

are you in a coop program

legally speaking you do have to be a "full-time" student sometime the year before the internshio

[dark lintel]

They look at your 2023 Jan-May semester

Yeah

[echo latch]

waterloo gets away with it because they're a coop school so the internship is a coop and it counts as you being in school full-time

[dark lintel]

Ooof

[echo latch]

just ask cultural vistas

[real island]

What’s Google GPA cutoff?

[echo latch]

4.1

[stable ravine]

do they even care about gpa?

[real island]

They asked for my transcript so I guess

[echo latch]

a lil over tree fiddy

[stable ravine]

hmm.. how difficult would be the dsa rounds at google for ng?

[real island]

How hard is it for intern? 🥲

[echo latch]

i very much doubt google will release external ng apps this year

[weak gazelle]

Does Google like C, C++ exp @echo latch

For intern

[real island]

Experience programming in three or more of the following languages: C, C++, C#, Java, JavaScript, Go, Python or similar.

I guess so

[echo latch]

they've got some 2022 intern stragglers and a whole bunch of 2023 interns waiting for FT conversion

[echo latch]

only matters at team matching phase

[weak gazelle]

That’s every language

[real island]

@echo latch wait have you interned at Google before?

[stable ravine]

xD

[real island]

LMAO yeah fax

How many full stack teams do they have?

👀

[echo latch]

more than 1 and less than 1 million

[stable ravine]

subtle flex

[real island]

Real

[weak gazelle]

of course he has

[real island]

What’s the interview process for Google?

[weak gazelle]

be imagine wagons -> offer

[real island]

😭😭😭😭😭

[echo latch]

the easiest way to pass team matching is to be open to any kind of porject
that said a good number of teams at google is c++ so that will help

there are fullstack teams too

[real island]

What if I don’t have c++ experience 😢

[stable ravine]

you can join SRE team too?

why ya'll are deleting comments 🤔

[weak gazelle]

Didn’t Google also have a posting back in June

[echo latch]

j say that's something you're interested in

[weak gazelle]

for summer 2024

Did they ghost everyone for that

[real island]

Ohhh okay

[echo latch]

that was for recruiter reach outs

[real island]

Do you have recruiter email 👉👈

[echo latch]

the recruiting team just had layoffs

[stable ravine]

I lost my hope and got a part-time job at my university hospitality service

[echo latch]

for google? chances are very slim

[real island]

😔

Is it leetcode med-hard for Google interviews?

[echo latch]

oh yeah prolly

[stable ravine]

need 1 more year of DSA to even think about google

gona grind and apply when the market is good

[echo latch]

i had like 4qs/interview for google

the main q is usually a med/hard

[stable ravine]

was it mainly on DP and graphs?

[real island]

Lmao I was about to ask the same

[echo latch]

it goes like easy->med/hard(main)->follow-up(med/hard)->follow-up(hard)

[real island]

🥲

[stable ravine]

memoization is easy but bruhh tabulation is hard af to come up with

[real island]

Real

I don’t think I’ve ever solved a hard ngl

[stable ravine]

idek how ppl come up with tabulation solutions under pressure

[real island]

💀

[echo latch]

usually you're expected to finish at least the main q, if you finish the follow-up for the main q you're good

[stable ravine]

will they ask 2 sums ;[

fizzbuzz

[echo latch]

good thing about google is if you're correct and you sound convincing enough they wont ask you to code it