canada

[fierce lotus]

ye UBC mcgill uoft etc

[soft hamlet]

I handle all CI/CD of the big monorepo

I've optimized it by 50%

[fierce lotus]

bruh just tuition?

wtf

[boreal sorrel]

at hs we just had euclids welp

[soft hamlet]

From then on I became the CI/CD man

[boreal sorrel]

no access to ccc

[soft hamlet]

For intl

I am local

[oblique quiver]

there is homeschool option tho rip

[soft hamlet]

I pay 10.4k - 3k scholarship

[fierce lotus]

ye but whos paying 46k for carleton....

[soft hamlet]

Like 20-30% or something crazy is intl

[fierce lotus]

hmm

[boreal sorrel]

intl

[soft hamlet]

Cheaper overall than like Toronto

Bruh

Because I was the intern I was allowed to do all that

I cleared a backlog of a few months of bugs too

I did house keeping for like 4 weeks

And then now I'm doing cool stuff

Send me the app I wanna test it

Is it prod?

[oblique quiver]

i think its just less known compared to like

usaco

[soft hamlet]

Kk

[oblique quiver]

all canadian mf do usaco

(mainly just for practice tho)

[soft hamlet]

My high school was tech focused but we didn't have usaco

Our curriculum was cracked tho

[oblique quiver]

were u in HS in america

[fierce lotus]

how r u saying its tech focused then...

[oblique quiver]

here its just ppl doin it in their spare time

[soft hamlet]

We did AWS lambdas and microservices

[oblique quiver]

but most HS (ats least in ontario) offer ccc

[soft hamlet]

In grade 11

[fierce lotus]

wtf

damn

[soft hamlet]

Canada

[oblique quiver]

i mean

[fierce lotus]

i didnt even take cs in hs

[oblique quiver]

thats kinda expected

[boreal sorrel]

nah, MEA/MENA

[oblique quiver]

but ig AMC is a thing

canada keeps kowtowing to america for their math olympiad stuff

[soft hamlet]

We used docker it was pure funny

[oblique quiver]

i heard CMO uses USAMO as part of team selection

[soft hamlet]

Grade 10 is fully deployed react apps

[fierce lotus]

damn

gg

good school

[soft hamlet]

Grade 12 we published mobile apps + did some linux certs and whatnot

[oblique quiver]

that actually crazy

[teal remnant]

Bro ur high school cracked ngl

[oblique quiver]

school full of

future swes

[soft hamlet]

We did two to three languages a term

[boreal sentinel]

yrdsb moment

[fierce lotus]

demn

[soft hamlet]

I was in OCSB

[oblique quiver]

is that a C I see

does that mean its catholic

[soft hamlet]

They made us do a cert + 2-3 langs + some kind of big final project every course

[soft hamlet]

Yes

[oblique quiver]

uts cp fell off after 2022 tho 😩

[soft hamlet]

Our grade 12 comp eng was so cool

[fierce lotus]

damn

[soft hamlet]

We made the Ben eater 8 bit computer

[fierce lotus]

we had in cs in 9th and 10th grade but mostly theoretical shit

[soft hamlet]

In breadboards

It's crazy

Totally didn't cost like $300 in IC chips

My final project was writing an emulator for it

[oblique quiver]

OCSB be like: ^

[soft hamlet]

Given a file of binary instructions

Run it

:>

[soft hamlet]

No it was just my teacher

My teacher was amazing

[oblique quiver]

meanwhile independent schools: hey guys some guys at st mikes shoved a broomstick up some other dudes ass, don't do it pls

[soft hamlet]

We only have 3 CS/eng degree holder teachers teaching CS in the entire board

LOL

[oblique quiver]

OOF

how many at ur school

inb4 all 3

[soft hamlet]

Two

[fierce lotus]

nice

[soft hamlet]

All the other schools are sports schools

[fierce lotus]

my school didnt even have cs lol in 11th and 12th grade

[soft hamlet]

We also had like racks of 3D printers and nice film cameras

[fierce lotus]

we had IT which was basically excel and microsoft access shit

[soft hamlet]

I took a lot of media arts classes

[oblique quiver]

ok wait so

this was a public school?

[soft hamlet]

So we had green screens, a sound room and stuff

Yes

[oblique quiver]

[fierce lotus]

wow

[soft hamlet]

They just diverted all the funding to tech

Lol

[fierce lotus]

hmm

[oblique quiver]

thats so insane

[soft hamlet]

We didn't even have soap in the washrooms

[fierce lotus]

did u get cs credits

in university

[soft hamlet]

I could have if I went uottawa

[fierce lotus]

ah

[soft hamlet]

Basically there is an advanced credit system because uottawa recognizes our courses as equivalent

[fierce lotus]

in my school if u took IB and did CS u could have skipped the first 2 cs courses

[soft hamlet]

If you wrote and passed the exam at UO at the end of the term

Then you get the creds

It only started this year tho

I missed it by one year

[fierce lotus]

ah

[soft hamlet]

We don't have IB or AP at our school tho

[fierce lotus]

ah

[soft hamlet]

Pre covid comp eng was the best

You partnered up with someone in either welding or carpentry courses

And then as comp eng you did the PCB design, circuitry and design

[fierce lotus]

damn

[soft hamlet]

And then you get another student to do your stuff

And then you have a joint full product at the end

[oblique quiver]

LOL

thats smart administration tho

[soft hamlet]

CS kids don't wash anyways

[oblique quiver]

one time beauocracy actually works

[soft hamlet]

Who cares

[oblique quiver]

LOL TRUE

L

[fierce lotus]

damn

I did some robotics shit in hs thats all

[soft hamlet]

Grade 10 comp eng was robotics focused

I made an RC car with a crane

[fierce lotus]

lol

nice

[oblique quiver]

contest r pre fun

[fierce lotus]

y not it gets u job

[oblique quiver]

i feel like this guy is tryna make an underhanded cp joke

[proven relic]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-cringe-cringe-gif-20747133

[oblique quiver]

no

[soft hamlet]

[fierce lotus]

ok imma call 911

lol

no

[lunar sandal]

blud thinks he's in india

[analog current]

Guys Intuit or Amazon just curious 🧐

[placid dawn]

anyone else got the meeting email from amazon

[fickle juniper]

Internship?

Id say whichever one is higher paying/has better conversion to full time

[analog current]

Internship yeah

[pale lichen]

Amazon prolly looks better on resume, but keep in mind your sanity will be exploited LMAOO

[fickle juniper]

Feels like zon to me for this reason as well

[analog current]

🧠 🤯

Zon pays a decent amount more

Heard the work environment is pretty soul crushing tho

[fickle juniper]

Definitely zon then I think. Unless there is some other compelling consideration

[oblique quiver]

what makes zon rly bad culture-wise?

[pale lichen]

I'm not too sure how good the conversion to full time is in Zon. Might have to look into that

[oblique quiver]

is it coz no culture, high stress, etc.

[pale lichen]

High stress, lotta work, constantly being evaluated & asked to do more.

[wheat comet]

ive heard its team dependent

some teams r more chill

[pale lichen]

On the bright side tho, if you make it out alive, you'll come out a different beast + amazing xp on resume

[oblique quiver]

ah I see

[fickle juniper]

There is a higher chance u join a team that is high stress and low wlb compared to other big tech

[wheat comet]

i hope one day i will come into this chat asking if i should take amazon or other company

[oblique quiver]

honestly like 99% of the time im just here to like

[fickle juniper]

Yeah there are exceptions but matching is not necessarily up to us at our level so it relies on luck. Problem is there’s a higher chance of being put on a stressful/low wlb gram compared to other companies

[oblique quiver]

preemptively learn about places

[wheat comet]

yea for sure

[oblique quiver]

i'd rather have an idea now than be like >PLSRESPONDPLSRESPOND later on

[wheat comet]

also means u have more opportunities at amazon

[fickle juniper]

Also anecdotally I’ve heard a lot of really horrible stories of interns and other ft folks being mistreated at Amazon

[oblique quiver]

yikers

[pale lichen]

To be clear, I think you should take Amazon over Intuit even with all the stress

[wheat comet]

^

[pale lichen]

The amazon badge on ur resume will pay off

Only way you should turn down Amazon is for another big tech company that has better culture like Okta

[fickle juniper]

Yeah to be clear Amazon is still a great company to work for

[weak gazelle]

why okta

no

amazon >> okta

[pale lichen]

Pays the same, less stress

[fickle juniper]

Ohh dang

What’s Okta nowadays for new grad/intern pay?

[weak gazelle]

why would you worry about stress for 12 weeks kek

or 16

even a year

[fickle juniper]

I mean

Ideally I would worry about stress for 0 weeks

[pale lichen]

I'm not too sure but last I checked it was similar to amazon

[fickle juniper]

Wow that’s great

[pale lichen]

I guess it comes down to individual priorities

[fickle juniper]

Cuz they are also fully wfh I think

[pale lichen]

Yep

[oblique quiver]

i mean it depends on ur priorities

[fickle juniper]

U could live like a king Justin Trudeau with zon salary in like Calgary for ex

[oblique quiver]

if wlb is important for an internship to you then u might as well take the less stressful one

[pale lichen]

Exactly

[oblique quiver]

neither place is bad

[pale lichen]

How much is new grad offer for amazon in CAD?

[fickle juniper]

Isn’t it like ~160k?

CAD ofc

I don’t remember, but it definitely wasn’t over 160k idt

[pale lichen]

Levels says its 140k CAD TC

https://www.levels.fyi/companies/amazon/salaries/software-engineer/levels/sde-i/locations/canada Gotta convert to CAD since its in USD for canada

[oblique quiver]

how much is it to live in a nice appt in toronto

[pale lichen]

how many bedrooms

[oblique quiver]

1

[wheat comet]

downtown core?

[oblique quiver]

ig

[pale lichen]

Prolly 3k

That's downtown though

[oblique quiver]

tru

[wheat comet]

yea

[pale lichen]

2.5k will be a very nice apartment everywhere else in toronto except downtown

[fickle juniper]

Ah yup I think ur right

[oblique quiver]

[fickle juniper]

Tho I think that’s with the backloaded RSUs

So maybe over 4 yrs that’s more? Not sure

[pale lichen]

Yeah maybe

[fickle juniper]

I swear I heard higher than 140k tho

[pale lichen]

Honestly been looking at 1 bedroom apartments here in toronto, i think 2.2k is a good amount for 1 bedroom in toronto

[pale lichen]

Me too, idk what happened

[wheat comet]

just dont live downtown and ur good

for 1 bed

[pale lichen]

Yep

[fickle juniper]

Just live in a cardboard box and ur good

[wheat comet]

if u live near the go train, getting downtown is ez

[tight gale]

I thought it was 150k and 160k for return

[wheat comet]

what u spend in transit expense, u save in rent

also just dont pay ez

[analog current]

For returning interns its standard

And for student program new grads

[analog current]

Are Amazon interns getting return offers no AWS days

Nowadays^^

No AWS days has to be the best auto correct ever LOL

[tight gale]

180 sheeesh

[normal jetty]

Take a trip to the east end

[pale lichen]

105,948 USD is 140,244.43 CAD

[pale lichen]

Facts, saw some 1 bedrooms for 1.8 👀

[normal jetty]

CLE not Cleveland ! (Song reference)

Nah but the east end is usually cheaper

[pale lichen]

LOL

Yeah east side should be cheaper for sure

[weak gazelle]

[wheat comet]

LOOOOOOL

[polar dust]

i was wondering if there is a listing for canadian 2024 new grads

[lunar sandal]

holy foack

i thought new grads low end was like 80k, and so average would be 100-120? idk wtf to expect in 2025-2026

how to get

past google resume screen

[analog current]

100-120k? Bro what are you smoking

Average new grad salary in Canada is more like 60-80K

70K being pretty standard new grad offer

[pale lichen]

Oh that's sick!!

[lunar sandal]

idk i think thats low

60-80k is like 1 yr coop salary

[analog current]

That highly depends where you do your coop

Majority of coops pay around 20-28/hour

[lunar sandal]

like the LOWEST co op i seen amongst my friends is 50k

[analog current]

A typical new grad salary in Canada is somewhere between 30-40/hour

My first coop for reference was 40K ish

[fickle juniper]

Median cs undergrad from ubc gets 100k

[worldly ridge]

well some co ops pay min wage

[lunar sandal]

^

i guess its uni dependent too

[analog current]

You have a lot of distorted perception being in these servers

No flame

[fickle juniper]

Tho who knows about 2023

[lunar sandal]

ik what ur talking about, but still

[analog current]

But I wouldn’t be surprised if UW UBC and U of T kids have on average 10-20K higher salaries than all the rest

That’s not unbelievable to me

[analog current]

But yeah, data wise, 70K is standard

[fickle juniper]

Ig tbf this is only 35% response rate

[analog current]

What is UW or U of T?

[fickle juniper]

Actually my hunch is the actual amount is lower than 100k

Ubc

[tight gale]

35% response rate

There's gonna be selection bias tbh, someone who has 40k offer prob won't be reporting in

[analog current]

It’s anonymous

No reason not to

100K is more reasonable in a HCOL region like Vancouver, plus UBC is a top tier school

[odd nest]

I aint ever working at no ottawa company

[soft hamlet]

why you studying in Ottawa then

[odd nest]

low ass grades -> esp program and carleton let me in for some reason

2020 was the year they opened the floodgates and just over accepted

[soft hamlet]

now it's 90+

absolutely ridiculous

just spam apps and pray

[odd nest]

ye fr

its probs easier to get a job through the uni coop program

[soft hamlet]

if a first year like me can get a decent job a meng at loo probably can too

[odd nest]

but im not really interested in any of those coop portal jobs

[wooden lichen]

aren't there postings on the carleton board specific only to carleton?

so ur competition is carleton students

[soft hamlet]

not specific to Carleton

but the companies have a quota to fill as part of being on the co-op board

so they have to pick up at least a couple

[odd nest]

more qualified people fighting for a few seat in coop program

[wooden lichen]

i heard somewhere companies look at carleton apps first then uottawa

[soft hamlet]

ciena does that

idk about anywhere else tho

[odd nest]

vs a qualified person competing with unqualified bootcampers through the regulat postings

[soft hamlet]

mostly just trust me bro

[wooden lichen]

facts

so scared i wont land any internship at all for next summer

[odd nest]

easier to compete in the unqualified pool when ur qualified

[wooden lichen]

after 50+ apps so far i only got 1 interview for full stack which i thought i did rlly good on but got rejected

[odd nest]

pain

400 of these

[wooden lichen]

sooooo facts

[tight gale]

@analog current starting to feel like I should just boomerang back was at 190 after raise

[soft hamlet]

[wooden lichen]

you'd think an unpaid internship for a 'pre-seed' startup are desperate but still reject you 2 days later

[wooden lichen]

yeah

[odd nest]

they be getting like 300 apps from bootcempers I swear

[wooden lichen]

ts so bad on my mental health

then you see kids on linkedin who got their first internship at aws or some shit

[odd nest]

most of them got in during covid hype

[wooden lichen]

or someone your year already with amazon and capital one to their name

[wooden lichen]

wish i was born earlier

[odd nest]

ik people at microsoft who got ft offeres rescinded after layoffs

[wooden lichen]

do i have much lower chance of getting american internships if im a citizen

bc international apps are just fucked right

[tight gale]

Yea if I don't get anything for spring next year I'll dm my manager

[odd nest]

idk depends on company

[wooden lichen]

dear lord jesus christ give me an internship

i can imagine bro

how does someone with zero experience get anything in this market

[tight gale]

Nah they made new guidelines for boomerang

Same lvl if within 12 months

There's no way I could gotten with 1 yoe

My team avg was 2

Tf

How are you so cracked

[wooden lichen]

how many apps did it take you to get them?

[fickle juniper]

I mean gfy but how is that related to L5 at zon lol

It’s pretty bad yes

Depends on ur alternatives ig

[wooden lichen]

facst

you just got reached out?

how do u even get reached out

oh

is 250 enough?

[teal remnant]

250 lc yes

[wooden lichen]

how

[earnest lake]

Are there any Canadians here with a CS degree that successfully got the TN visa under the eng category? Or got rejected? Been waiting for mine and I'm getting nervous

[worldly ridge]

u shud clown on em aight

[hot rapids]

Doesn’t this mean you reached out to them, rather than vice versa 🤔

Can you extend your amazon internship at all, cuz wouldn’t that be better than the two offers

Damn he has a bigger Pp

Nvidia, snowflake, sofi Vs amazon and sap 🤔

[lunar sandal]

if ur good enuf to get into snowflake that is

i remember our coop board had snowflake oa up for the entire year

cuz no one was making it thru

DP issue

yeah its just, a lot of work

idek when i shud get back on the LC grind cuz i wanna do 1 yr coop after 3rd year

but the job situation is so shit

[fickle juniper]

What are we talking about

[lunar sandal]

talking about how demotivating it is to hit "run test cases" when you have 0 offers lined up and 3 rejections waiting in ur inbox

[tight gale]

[candid oxide]

anyone going greylock

[fickle juniper]

I went last yr, can dm link to server if ur going

[candid oxide]

Did u get email from kalshi (company)

[lunar sandal]

whats greylock

[limber dirge]

I promise the interview is not that hard 😭 intuit has a pretty low bar compared to other internships paying in the 40s

[soft hamlet]

I'm a rising soph that barely does lc

[limber dirge]

as someone working at intuit you should pick Amazon 💀 even with the stress it's only four months and the rep is factually higher

plus so many previous interns went to zon stg so you might as well

[oblique crater]

stress at a 4 month internship? brother yall will be making 60 an hour just go have expensive steaks every weekend and go parasailing to reduce the stress

[hot rapids]

Doctors doing their residency at an ER making $32/hr

[limber dirge]

Yeah LMAO

[oblique crater]

it balances out they work 16 hours a day

[analog current]

@fickle juniper can u DM me geeylock

[somber flare]

Can u send me link too

[fickle juniper]

I think both y’all have to accept my friends req

[fickle juniper]

I just posted the link on #server-links

[placid dawn]

i wonder if the other intern in my team knows how lucky he got getting job

[fickle juniper]

Greylock is really good yes

For example the companies will email u beforehand if they like u

And u can get lots of recruiter contacts

Oh it’s online

[tight gale]

Is that free?

[candid oxide]

Ye u need to apply and get in

[analog current]

How do you get them to reach out?

Is it based on your resume? And can you update your resume in the system?

[analog current]

Did u get email from kalshi company

[boreal sorrel]

fr this is what i do 💀, still stressed tho

[placid dawn]

im graduating in yrs

2018

i think lol

hell no

with dis market

ive another nship lineup

yee about 1.5 so far

4 more months and im good

it do be time tho

[oblique crater]

yeah it’s either a ton of internship exp or 5 years max

[placid dawn]

i failed a class which held me back 6 months

damn hard ass asian profs

[oblique crater]

what class

[placid dawn]

discrete math

lol no

uofr

worst in canada

[oblique crater]

based sask bro

[placid dawn]

maybe worst choice of my life

profs here dgaf

all the angry profs who didnt make it come here

the happy ones are in loo and uoft

[oblique crater]

no prof is happy

just a fact i tell ya

[placid dawn]

id hate it tbh

[oblique crater]

yeah the really good ones aren’t even profs they’re seasonal lecturers who have real jobs that get brought in temporarily

[placid dawn]

spending my life in a uni

[oblique crater]

yeah imagine being a 65 year old teaching a first year course for 30 years

[oblique crater]

this is where it’s at honestly

i wouldn’t mind teaching in a very limited capacity tenure just sounds like another word for paid prison time

yeah i mean at that point you’re just doing side quests

fuck me too dude

[lusty roost]

Yea a lot of ppl do that

I mean no it isn't a bad look* it's a pretty good idea now imo

yea I'm graduating in 5 with a full yr of internships

some big unis make you do it or give an option, like mac/uwo have the 16mo coops (tho i think smaller internships are better)

yep

yea thats solid then

😢 yea

my unis job board is always so dry

💀

for mine most of the postings are just public ones that are on linkedin and any uni job portal too so competitions still really high

didnt even bother opening it up for my last few internships lol

[lapis beacon]

any yorku-ers?

average ubc student

its ok

i know you go to uofr

[odd nest]

you dont have to say it took 5 years to graduate but even then it wouldnt matter that much since some people have to work and study

[lapis beacon]

Common sfu W

LMAO

uofr cant be that bad

[wicked geyser]

Sometimes I wonder if I just go back to my home country. The high cost of living here, really makes me question why I came here..... Will I ever be able to buy a house here? High rents, joke healthcare system and rising grocery prices ugh

[vivid fiber]

Why did you come here?

[oblique crater]

i got return ft and they still don't expect shit im confused

[vivid fiber]

That is the United States flag

[pale lichen]

Sick, from which company?

[barren sinew]

This is self reported and 2 years out of school. So it's not new grad salaries

[tawny raptor]

Idek wtf uofr is

[rustic thorn]

university of for real

[fickle juniper]

Ohh ic

Ty for the clarification, idk why I just assumed 🤷

[analog current]

bruh someone asked me if they should go to “sfu for a FAANG internship” (because their best option was queens) or go to uoft so they can “transfer into waterloo”

so they went to queens bc it has the best option for gpa apparently for engineering.. so they can transfer

they just saw some random ass graph that showed how high FAANG was without taking into account the class size of schools

the distribution of internships

it is

ya u know what I’m talking about

ya

[rustic thorn]

ya

[analog current]

ngl they had some of the most surreal npc action ive ever heard of

they asked why does queens have no buildings

LOL

but what about the buildings???

they just considered it strictly bc it looked good on a graph that said FAANG on it

literally

i gotta check what they’re up to tbh

[tawny raptor]

Probably faang

Yea tbh

🍌

Societal impact?

[analog current]

ok this is what they’re up to

im going to uw but i don’t want to rely on the name so easily because ive seen people do that lmao

like drop gpa just bc they’re in cs

that is true

i am very happy with my resume but it doesn’t mean a guarantee for anything against anyone there

for a freshman atleast

“not amazon” 😭

hey atleast there’s money

ya oof

idk what team I’ll be on bc amazon is so random with allat

i agree

😭😭😭

[lunar sandal]

nobody gives a fuck abt ur gpa

except intel

[analog current]

grad school tho

[lunar sandal]

and maybe jane street, but u know by now if u have a chance in hell to even make it at those companies

ah okay

[odd nest]

Oh ye

💀

[lunar sandal]

prolly for the PR..i feel the FUCK out of their msg tho LMAO

[analog current]

what if u wanna do research tho 😭

[lunar sandal]

here's a good heuristic for u mr catt

^^

i was gonna say that but more nicely LOL

[analog current]

damn

[odd nest]

Bruh chill

[analog current]

idk i am happy with my experiences

[odd nest]

Grad school is research?

[lunar sandal]

I've thought about this too, u probably wont be able to realistically unless u live sparingly and get a FAANG job here.

The domestic kids here are sitting on inflated assets that their parents copped in 1992 and are profiting off of that. My play is to dip in a couple yrs

[analog current]

can lead to it

LOL

[odd nest]

Bruh

[odd nest]

Idk it’s not that bad, I guess in like the big cities it’s pretty hard

But banks be giving out loans like it’s pre 2008 rn

[lunar sandal]

@wicked geyser all the more reason to try ur hardest for a big name internship/job. I think thats the only way

[analog current]

man what was that earlier

[lunar sandal]

to equalize the playing field

[odd nest]

I’m still gonna get a US job tho

[lunar sandal]

yep thats what i mean

ur just freer as a domestic kid

can take many smaller coops, try ur hand at diff stuff

[odd nest]

I can’t live with this bank wage bruh

[lunar sandal]

for us its just summers and 1 yr coop.

[odd nest]

I should have done a startup

[lunar sandal]

im at a startup rn

[odd nest]

What’s the comp like

[lunar sandal]

its good

i wanna see if i can come back part time in fall/winter

[odd nest]

Ye I was doing work study

[steep violet]

yo did faang recruiting start for canada

[lunar sandal]

yes google opened and closed their posting 10 years ago

[steep violet]

get a load of this goof

[odd nest]

lmao

[steep violet]

fr tho

[odd nest]

bro goes to carleton

[steep violet]

imma make it out the trenches trust

[odd nest]

fr

[wooden lichen]

ima make it out

[steep violet]

how u know tho

[steep violet]

yessir

[odd nest]

mutual server

[steep violet]

yikes

u go to carleton too?

[odd nest]

ye

[steep violet]

rip

[odd nest]

im not in cs tho lmaoo

[steep violet]

we both making it out the trenches

what u doin here then

[odd nest]

getting cs jobs

[lunar sandal]

im being serious

[odd nest]

im in CogSci

[steep violet]

cant take u serious wit yo ryan gosling pfp lookin ahh

[odd nest]

on god bruh

[steep violet]

oh u in the mud

[odd nest]

nah I already made it out

[lunar sandal]

typical carleton cs

[steep violet]

ay my guy

[wooden lichen]

i love my school

[lunar sandal]

the side effects of breathing ottawa air

[odd nest]

made it out the mud

[lunar sandal]

unlucky for u guys

[steep violet]

bro im only here cuz it's cheap

[lunar sandal]

didnt ask

[steep violet]

bro pressed fr

xD

lmfao

[wooden lichen]

how do you rate carleton

[lunar sandal]

2/10

[odd nest]

ass

[lunar sandal]

yep

[odd nest]

the uni hates me and I hate it

[wooden lichen]

fuck this school

[odd nest]

ima wear that

[steep violet]

shits ass

eshan what internships u got so far

[odd nest]

bro dont make me flex

[steep violet]

2.0 carleton and not even in cs

bros diff

[odd nest]

some car factory

[steep violet]

tesla

[odd nest]

TD for like a year

[steep violet]

Ay i did ciena for a year

im up next

for the big one

[odd nest]

yee make it out the trenches

[steep violet]

so back to my original question, any faang recruiting rn? when do most start

like aug - sept?

[odd nest]

ye

[lunar sandal]

the fact that u can rent the place out for more expensive than its worth

[steep violet]

whend u interview?

[odd nest]

march till end of june

[lunar sandal]

as SWE?

[odd nest]

ya

[steep violet]

whens the internship?

[lunar sandal]

wait what year r u

[steep violet]

bro march till june thats looong

[odd nest]

going into 2

[steep violet]

Bro what

[odd nest]

yeah and they are so unorginized

[lunar sandal]

wow

[steep violet]

howd u do TD for a year and u 2nd xD

[lunar sandal]

u must be one of those olympiad kids

[analog current]

i was gonna ask if you’re ubc bc everyone ik there guns for a Tesla internship lmao

[odd nest]

year off (to do internships) and part time student while working fulltime

[steep violet]

Aha

[lunar sandal]

didnt say it doesnt b

[steep violet]

yurr

[lunar sandal]

but its just exorbitant af here

[steep violet]

except this guy with the ryan gosling pfp

[odd nest]

ay I mean we dont profit off of owning a house

[steep violet]

^ ?

[odd nest]

you rent it out to pay off the morgage, net zero

[lunar sandal]

man i cant even afford a house

[odd nest]

just letting the assets appreciate over time

[wooden lichen]

Dear lord Jesus Christ give me an internship please lord Jesus Christ thank you amen

[odd nest]

fall

[lunar sandal]

they appreciated to levels we aint expect

[steep violet]

Oh ok i thought summer 24 i was like no way this early

GL

[odd nest]

eh idk with the amt of people coming in and the rate houses were being built

[lunar sandal]

i think ontario n vancouver will see a lot of ppl leaving in the next few yrs

[odd nest]

depends on feild of work

[lunar sandal]

im just salty that, (in ontario at least) u cant buy houses anymore as non resident

back to the 3rd world

[odd nest]

no tech worker going to alberta

[lunar sandal]

oh no i meant legally

we legally cannot, drop bands on property till 2024

[odd nest]

why?

[lunar sandal]

idk some new rule

[odd nest]

wait where

bruh

ohh

[odd nest]

yeah thats fine lol

W

[lunar sandal]

yall r acting like the damage isnt done

[odd nest]

best not to make it worse lol

[lunar sandal]

yall seen Wong signs on the streets lately?

yeah he prolly owns ur entire neighborhood

[odd nest]

wong?

[lunar sandal]

that mayor electorate guy

[odd nest]

I own half my neighborhood

[lunar sandal]

gotem

[odd nest]

gong?

[lunar sandal]

ah ye gong LOL

[odd nest]

brampton 😏

[lunar sandal]

oh god

this guy cant drive

[analog current]

my friend got stabbed there

in middle school

[odd nest]

i can drive

😔

[analog current]

that’s about as much as i know about brampton

[odd nest]

insurance like 300ish

real

[lunar sandal]

drive my 2ft submarine with a logitech controller

[lunar sandal]

i think its more than that

[odd nest]

and i got the employee discount for insurance

😏 min max finances

[lunar sandal]

isnt that..insurance fraud

unless u got 2 homes

[odd nest]

no becayse I live there

[lunar sandal]

ah okay

[odd nest]

sometimes

[lunar sandal]

LOL

[odd nest]

when im home from uni

@lunar sandal what country u from

[lunar sandal]

Columbia

[steep violet]

u jump the wall?

[weak gazelle]

stop

[lunar sandal]

ye and got with ur mom right after

[steep violet]

xDDDD

[odd nest]

Hola amigo

[steep violet]

ok sorry m'am

[weak gazelle]

🫶

[steep violet]

my fav planet is uranus

[weak gazelle]

It gonna be 9am where I’m at

[odd nest]

server boosting cscareers

[weak gazelle]

[odd nest]

wrong channel sir

[lunar sandal]

are u modding this channel too shri

[weak gazelle]

nah I’m just back in India for a month vacation

[lunar sandal]

bring @Aight back he crying in my dm

[weak gazelle]

@Aight

where do he go

Did

[lunar sandal]

🙏

[odd nest]

lmao the guy that got kicked

[weak gazelle]

tf

why kick

[odd nest]

yo bring him back

[weak gazelle]

[odd nest]

he was goofing on grad students

[weak gazelle]

@Aight was just the right amount of toxic

[lunar sandal]

i agree

[tight gale]

Did he leave?

[fickle juniper]

I think he got banned

Or kicked or something

[hot rapids]

he got snatched by aJassy

[pallid reef]

lol

no fucking way

no more top profile

[analog current]

LOL

Bro was just flexing his Zon offer

Flexing it like it was a Citadel offer

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-robot-gif-5733980

[fickle juniper]

m8 what’s wrong

[wheat comet]

https://tenor.com/view/sigh-facepalm-stressed-disappointed-bored-gif-17570669

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pablo-lonely-alone-gif-12928789

[eternal fossil]

I just be laying in bed recapping life dawg

[eternal fossil]

Felt this

[wheat comet]

goodmorning

[hot rapids]

I miss @Aight

[wheat comet]

ube melona is better

[fickle juniper]

I’m going to @Aight every day to check if he’s back yet

[tawny raptor]

Rip

Free @Aight

[tight gale]

I heard he left because he got citadel

[worldly ridge]

@agile geode

[robust lotus]

https://tenor.com/bVtdz.gif

[weak gazelle]

bring @Aight back

@ mod

@ mod

[rustic thorn]

What did Aight do?

Fill me in on the lore

[hot rapids]

I heard he left because Jassy personally offered him a full time position for being such a great Amazon ambassador

[worldly ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F9iygUoW64

[fickle juniper]

They're actually adding "Aight" as another zon leadership principle

[magic perch]

Me a newgrad on LinkedIn: entry-lvl
LinkedIn: your profile matches staff software engineer at Pinterest, principle software architect at Airbnb

[wheat comet]

https://tenor.com/view/melancholy-wilder-woods-bear-rinehart-light-shine-in-sad-gif-17256762

where is aight

[barren sinew]

Recruiters hitting me up saying I'm a great fit for the job I was laid off from

[lunar sandal]

What in the absolute fuck

[tranquil goblet]

Anyone interviewed with SAP HANA in Vancouver this year?

[crude saddle]

most in touch corporate exec

[pale lichen]

What's good base salary & TC for canadian ew grad software engineer positions at medium size tech companies?

[azure spire]

500k

[analog current]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QY2_8704o&ab_channel=ChillMusicLab

[barren sinew]

60-80k is the standard

Anything 90k and above is good

[cunning lake]

depends on the province. In Quebec 90k for new grad is considered good pay

yeah 50-70k is more common in quebec

[worn gulch]

getting rejected by workday ATS system, 5 times till now. can anyone offer advice how to get past workday ?

[vivid fiber]

Workday ATS doesn't have to be optimized for. So you're being rejected by a recruiter most likely.

[tight gale]

Any offers?

[placid dawn]

hoping response today / tomorrow

[zinc knot]

By who

[fickle juniper]

Tons

I used an offer from Pizza Hut the other day

Jk I don’t like Pizza Hut

[placid dawn]

sketchy asian startup

[zinc knot]

real

[tight gale]

Kinda nervous, have an in person interview tomorrow too

This is their office

[wheat comet]

Been to that office, they have very "progressive" company policies

[proven relic]

make sure backend is clean and you're good

[zinc knot]

Gotta do a data injection

[keen galleon]

Hi, i am a 2nd year cs student at canada. I am wondering if cgpa is important for applying jobs.

[worldly ridge]

Can I watch your interview so I can learn from you friend ?

[wooden lichen]

i dont think it matters that much at all

hiring managers care more abt projects and experience than ur grades

but it can fs help a little bit on your resume

[tight gale]

[fickle juniper]

https://www.amazon.ca/prime/offer/doordash/prime-deal

Free DoorDash for a year with zon prime, plus some discounts

[worldly ridge]

Tornado in montreal?

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/tornado-watch-issued-for-montreal-area

nevermind

[soft hamlet]

It was actually like one residential neighborhood away

I have debris of someone's roof insulation on my roof

[analog current]

Are we getting cooked in the GTA?

[zinc knot]

i hate this cycle
i hate this cycle
i hate this cycle
i hate this cycle
i hate this cycle
i hate this cycle

i hate this cycle

i hate this cycle

[wheat comet]

https://tenor.com/view/sigh-facepalm-stressed-disappointed-bored-gif-17570669

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-punpun-oyasumi-punpun-punpun-onodera-lico-licocore-gif-23014250

[zinc knot]

i be feeling like punpun these days ong

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-robot-gif-5733980

[wheat comet]

https://tenor.com/view/sudicid-depressed-gif-14302694

[hexed monolith]

2023 ng now waiting for 2024 ng jobs🥲

[hot rapids]

Day 3 without @Aight, I’m starting to see aJassy around every corner. I’m breaking out in cold sweats

[eternal fossil]

WAKE UP META SWE NEW GRAD DROPPED

WAKE UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

[eternal fossil]

gg

[golden bronze]

Guys, I'm looking for new grad roles in Canada. Do you know any discord channels specifically for jobs in Canada?

[soft hamlet]

watch it be a 80k/yr new grad job requiring 7 years

[muted portal]

You’re in it ig

Unless there’s some other Canadian discord

[fickle juniper]

Damn I missed a day, please forgive me @Aight

[boreal sorrel]

which one, add me plz

[muted portal]

this channel lol

[boreal sorrel]

nvm :

i mistook it as a server

[placid dawn]

if u guys are permanent / citizen try ventureforcanada

i got my first internship thru them

[polar dust]

wtf is smr24?

[placid dawn]

yea the job boards are pretty shit

i got interviewes with 2 startups now from their current one

i wanna try the intrapreneurship thing this time

[soft hamlet]

oh canada

[soft hamlet]

do you want a schedule like this

True patriot love in all of us command.

[silk wraith]

U got cohere too?

[tawny raptor]

Pre good

[soft hamlet]

I don't go to loo, just picked an example online

My schedule literally looks like this

I'm chillin

I'm in second year

2804 is discrete 2, 3000 is OS and 3005 is databases

[oblique crater]

@nocturne reef if you have a chance to go to loo just go for it

it might be hard and bad on your mental health but it will set you up really nicely in the future

do you get access to waterlooworks?

if no internship program then not that worth it ig, what are your other options

you have great options are you trying to go more the academia route or industry

yeah your situation is complex but it’s nice that you’re open to both

id say wait it out acceptance wise and then chose once you know your options for sure

no definitely not, UK going down the gutter except if you get into Oxbridge

out of curiosity what’s your birth country

okay yeah then US option might be faster for you and more money obv

what does that change

ohhh i see yeah, wondering if you can push the MS offer to fall hard to think they would rescind it

[hallow urchin]

does anyone have experience with tesla references? how do they work? can u apply without a ref and with a ref to the same position twice?

[lunar sandal]

Are you going for a terminal math masters

Seems like it is since ur doing it for immigration reasons but, if you don’t know what ur getting into ur gonna be miserable in that program.

[wooden lichen]

lets go i owe carleton 10.3k

i dont wanna go back bro

[soft hamlet]

no scholarship?

[wooden lichen]

no

[soft hamlet]

damn

I don't wanna go back either

unironically working is more fun than school

[wheat comet]

anyone wanna go camping before summer ends

[boreal sentinel]

this place really is a ponzi scheme https://www.reddit.com/r/ABCDesis/comments/14uy5kb/comment/jraf1xi/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

It makes zero sense to live in Canada if you can move to the US.

People shit on American boomers for “stealing the future” of next generation. That shit is on a whole different level in Canada.

The Canadian Ponzi scheme goes like this:

The boomer class has jacked up taxes on anyone making a wage, where it’s impossible to build wealth. They want you to be a hamster running on their wheel and paying taxes, ridiculous rent.

All these ridiculously high taxes are doing is permanently blocking anyone from building wealth, and kill off upward mobility. Rich will stay rich or get richer and if you are poor, you have no path to becoming rich. As soon as you start making substantial money, you get taxed 53% and will never leave your middle class life.

Housing prices have gone up 400% in the last 15 years. All the native born Canadians have cashed out, and have used their equity to buy multiple houses. There was a study that showed something like 60% of all home buyers already had other homes. Only 15% of all homes sold were for first time buyers.

Older Canadians are making imported workers work low wage jobs, tax them to death to pay for their benefits while also selling them ridiculously overpriced real estate and making a fortune off of it. They have now started giving by 50 - 60 year mortgages.

the person says more stuff in the comments

plz everybody cali so we can brain drain canada 🙏

fuck margaret from pickering tryna leach off of us

who ros_ftw?

I see this

The worst part is, Canadians keep voting for these same people over and over again. It’s insanity. Canada could be the richest country in the world if they utilised their resources well. But nah, let the people suffer.

they do have a valid point about the ponzi scheme tho

economic mobility in canada is terrible

immigrants come here for a better life

but they get fucked over 95% of the time

but where else would u go?

regina?

theres a simple solution to this

build more housing

government and nimby will never allow that

cuz they want their precious real estate to go up

gta is not overcrowded

scarborough has vasts amount of land

if there was a prioritization in building high dense neighborhoods this wouldn’t be an issue

there are many oversized parking lots that can be easily converted to residential areas

[vivid fiber]

This is not true though?

Canada has high economic mobility

I do agree with the sentiment of this article and the issue of immigration brain drain

[oblique crater]

95% of immigrants do not get fucked coming here

[barren sinew]

These immigrants are going to have a bad time moving to the US when they are forced to move back to India when they lose the H1B lottery. But now with no life left in India

[oblique crater]

and the GTA is not overcrowded specifically but less crowded places have much lower rent

it’s difficult to build wealth if there are million dollar townhomes

[barren sinew]

A few of my coworkers are really sad they didn't move to the UK or Canada earlier. Now they have kids who won't move back to India, but no path to staying in the US

[oblique crater]

i knew a guy who grew up in the US and was forced to move to India when he was 13-14

he said the bullying was relentless

[barren sinew]

That's pretty common and is going to get even more common as the H1B lottery has exploded in difficulty

[worldly ridge]

Hello guyssss

stop dooming its saturdaay!!

hope you all have a great weekend ❤️

[worldly ridge]

what happened?

isnt it still like a 10% chacne to get it

unless ur born in china or india den its gg

[wheat comet]

https://tenor.com/view/broseidon-gif-24265572

saturday

[worldly ridge]

i wish canada continued in building co ops /affordable housing gov stopped it though

[placid dawn]

damn #ghosted again

[oblique crater]

ITS A SATURDAY

your recruiter is on a patio having a mimosa

[zinc knot]

and they didnt invite me?

[wheat comet]

i wanna know what a recruiter does at work day to day

[vivid fiber]

Recruiting-aligned activities

[barren sinew]

The H1B lottery is the same for all applicants. So everyone is equally screwed by it

The number of applicants has just ballooned

[worldly ridge]

oo i see

why woudl i worry about h1b, when i live in the greatest country in the world 🍁 ?

[pale lichen]

Would you say this is still accurate or is it more now?

[worldly ridge]

@weak gazelle near ur house rn

infront of cn tower

[lunar sandal]

ur in dubai

hop off discord

go to JBR

[worldly ridge]

[tight gale]

How did you even find that post

[fickle juniper]

Oh wow that's really good

That's like zon level

Did yall apply to that meta ng posting for Canada

[pale lichen]

https://www.okta.com/company/careers/engineering/software-engineer-5106324/

[tight gale]

This? https://www.metacareers.com/jobs/1469714200519485/

[plush rune]

hey. um i'm not sure, i just remember hearing a number like that from a return new grad when i interviewed with the company a year prior to my message

[ancient tartan]

will meta hire ng for Canada?

I know a lot of US students applied for the NG position in US

and no one got the follow-up

🥲

[tight gale]

no idea, all you can do is apply and

[magic perch]

Idk the details but they prolly hiring like a handful of top notch folks

There’s hundreds of well performing 2022 Canadian interns who were screwed with no return offers from Meta, so no idea why they wouldn’t reach out to those first given their experience and the investment they already made in them.

So I feel like this is really just to grab a few of the best of the best.

[tight gale]

[placid dawn]

[flint sandal]

Quant stuff does not exist in Canada right?

(I mean of course it exists, but)

[boreal sorrel]

drw and maybe bam

montreal and toronto?

[flint sandal]

Anything in Vancouver?

[steel escarp]

Why r u still applying? Leave broke kids like us some jobs

[tight gale]

[barren sinew]

Vote NDP

[worldly ridge]

tbh im just planning to jsut move in the us

but yeah ndp seems to be the only hope for affordable housing

cons n libs serve the landlords n investors

[barren sinew]

DRW, Squarepoint, BMO Capital Markets maybe

[barren sinew]

Mood

[steel escarp]

Why not vote for me

I will bring communisim to canada and reunite us

[worldly ridge]

i just have to worry about not getting shot

[worldly ridge]

we already have aocmuist party

[steel escarp]

Theyre bad

Not aggressive enough

[worldly ridge]

i imagind the US is ognna nuke us right away the moment we turn red

[steel escarp]

Or we can turn them red before they nuke us

Ezpz

[worldly ridge]

but we have no nueks

nuclear bombs

we will just turn into cuba

and suffer sanctions and die from poverty

[steel escarp]

Its k we can always send bad swe to the state and ruin them from inside

[worldly ridge]

too bad no one is hiring rn

[steel escarp]

Too bad one hired me

There goes their financial system

[fickle juniper]

Tfw neither of u are broke

[steel escarp]

Maybe but i like complaining 👀

It feels gud

[fickle juniper]

If you’d like

I can help with getting to broke

It’s called donating to the charity of @fickle juniper

[steel escarp]

But i already donates to @tight gale's charity last week 😭

[vivid fiber]

You're cosplaying unemployment

Smh

[fickle juniper]

I think it’s illegal to donate to the CCP

Damn got me there

BRB sending some money now

[steel escarp]

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-cpi-report-inflation-07-12-2023/card/stablecoin-company-circle-announces-layoffs-kMYO8gXkXRPRdfm5LPrd

😭

[fickle juniper]

Damn

I saw binance also announced layoffs

[steel escarp]

Eng didnt get affected

[vivid fiber]

Wait you got laid off?

[steel escarp]

Lol

[vivid fiber]

Bruh

[steel escarp]

Nah lol

[vivid fiber]

You're just proving my point

[fickle juniper]

Whew

[vivid fiber]

How's work btw

I just started last week

[steel escarp]

But i didnt get promoted after 3 months 😭

[fickle juniper]

We should be asking u too ig, how’re things?

Probs hard to say after just one week

[vivid fiber]

Damn, what a hard life

[fickle juniper]

Wow what a failure

[steel escarp]

Disgrace to asian

Sadge

[vivid fiber]

It's good so far. 1st week was mostly onboarding meetings lol.

[steel escarp]

Sorry my asian fellas

[fickle juniper]

U are in-person yes?