canada

[vivid fiber]

Free ticket

[earnest mortar]

howww

[vivid fiber]

Dev ticket

[pseudo storm]

@vivid fiber how is it so far? I got a ticket but I think I'm gonna go tomorrow.

[eternal fossil]

ng is non existent

nobody wants to teach new grads anymore

theyre looking for specialized people now

so do projects and do upwork

and build up your portfolio

and go for <2 yoe roles

and you should have a better shot

[vivid fiber]

Got some good swag

Some good talks + speakers as well

[analog current]

do upwork

terrible advice

[vivid fiber]

Don't be rude @analog current

[analog current]

😩

[eternal fossil]

i mean yeah it is terrible

but its somewhat working for me

its a route

i am coming from a desperate position so yeah

[vivid fiber]

New grad is very tuff, internships are better

If you have a very good resume you can still get new grad offers in Canada

But it's very tough

[eternal fossil]

ya its tough

[vivid fiber]

I was able to get a few Canadian offers/interviews for ng

[analog current]

@eternal fossil tc

[eternal fossil]

chump change

[analog current]

exactly

[eternal fossil]

$22 an hour

[analog current]

judging by ur pfp

u probs also shit post on 4chan

[eternal fossil]

ok you can hate upwork but its still something to get money from while people can study to better compete in the market

im not hearing about any solutions from you either so idk why youre bashing an outlet that could work for people

eod you get some money and you get references and something to pump up your yoe

why gatekeep outlets dude lol let people form their own decisions but an outlet is working (first hand exp) and can add to yoe

[vivid fiber]

While Upwork is a good path if you're having trouble to get work I don't think it should be prescribed as advice from the get go

[eternal fossil]

absolutely

[vivid fiber]

For all we know, the job market may vastly improve this year 🤞

[eternal fossil]

im just stating that if youre desperate that can pump up your yoe

yes i hope so too (no copium)

[analog current]

imo people who are still in school arent that desperate

and ik "fancy" places look down upon upwrok

and dont even count it as work exp

so its not really good advice to give to new grads

[soft hamlet]

upwork kinda mid

I find my own private clients

no marketplace will be taking cuts from me 😈

[eternal fossil]

yeah its mid

but something to feed my starbies addiction /s

[soft hamlet]

better than nothing but you are also competing against overseas $4/hr web designers

whereas if you take it off platform and find your own clients, they are willing to pay way more

because these platforms also have a bad rep

[eternal fossil]

you dont get the security that the platforms offer

you can find a client work for them and then take it off the platform

do private

and that way you keep your money

[soft hamlet]

there is no security on the platforms either, unless you become a FT upwork person and are able to farm ratings

[eternal fossil]

im trying to get to that while i sit at home mass applying

[soft hamlet]

be careful, you can get banned for it

[eternal fossil]

havent been successful in it

[soft hamlet]

also they'll be expecting the same hourly pay

which is massive cringe

marketplaces are great if you are consistent with it over like 6 months to a year

if you are willing to eat the fees

but unless you do that, you won't trend enough to get a lot of clients

I decided to just do private clients from the start and work through referrals

[eternal fossil]

im tryina get to this point

[soft hamlet]

I have two major clients rn and then a few smaller ones

that's good enough for me

[eternal fossil]

i tried doing the referrals route but i guess i have shit network because i had this one guy that wanted to build his own zoom lol

[soft hamlet]

💀

the way I did it is I went on google maps

find businesses like restaurants, car garages, etc

that either don't have a website

or don't have a good website at all

lower your standards, when I mean don't have a good website I mean not functional or like 30 second load times

if it works then don't bother

[eternal fossil]

solid advice tbh

[soft hamlet]

and then it's the same as job interviews spam proposals

just go hey I noticed your website is a bit slow, you can fix it with x and it will bring you y benefits

If you would like to schedule a 15 minute call to go over it in details, please let me know!

And then in that call subtly push your services, go hey I would fix it this way or that way, if you need help we can set up something

The other option is on top of that, spending 5 mins per business making them a landing page and going here is a sample

if you want to know more, let me know

that's what worked for me

also don't be afraid to get US clients

they pay the same dollar amount but in USD

[eternal fossil]

solid solid

[soft hamlet]

for prospective clients that don't have a website, walk them through the business benefits of having a website

most likely, they don't have a website because they saw it more as a cost than anything else

[eternal fossil]

to add to that i can tell you rn having been a recent grad, some companies see that as experience and count it towards your yoe (first hand exp) and im currently getting more interviews from people looking for above junior but below intermediate

[soft hamlet]

so you walk them through the benefits in terms of financials

[soft hamlet]

freelance as exp?

[eternal fossil]

yes

[soft hamlet]

damn so I have a free year of experience as a first year?

😂

and I have a contract until next april

👀

so uhhh

[eternal fossil]

im dead serious lol

[soft hamlet]

like 1.5 years or sum

gg

[eternal fossil]

im going thru teksystems right now

and they recognize it

[soft hamlet]

I mean I plan on doing 4 years of freelance with school so

[eternal fossil]

and high tech genesys for embedded roles

[analog current]

im telling u, if u ever wanna work at a proper place dont put upwork on ur resume

[soft hamlet]

they are private clients, not upwork

lol

I get to put actual companies on resume

[analog current]

just say consultant

[soft hamlet]

although no names

I just put full stack web dev

🤷‍♂️

[analog current]

ya just put ur co-op work exp

[eternal fossil]

yup i just put down soft dev

[analog current]

the main issue with doing freelance work is that u dont really gain any exp

like u think u are

but u really arent

[soft hamlet]

rbc does codesignal?

[eternal fossil]

omg legend

[analog current]

no noe is checking ur code, ur not getting that full swe experience

[soft hamlet]

I got straight interviewed 🤔

I didn't know they did OA

that's odd...

[analog current]

the bar is probs below the ground for rbc

its fucking rbc

💀

[soft hamlet]

well yeah, it's more for the money

bigggg bobux

[analog current]

it wont be

i bet u

[eternal fossil]

expect the worst

[analog current]

its not even about monie dude

[eternal fossil]

come out on top either way

[soft hamlet]

I do it for the money

[analog current]

its about being of a certain caliber

and showing others that ur up to the bar

[soft hamlet]

ok but I started doing this because I was bored

and I wanted money

so I started

[analog current]

do leetcode or sharpen ur cs skills

[soft hamlet]

it's not about learning anything

most of my work is drag and drop even I'm not gonna deny it

😂

but money

[soft hamlet]

I started LC

💀

[placid dawn]

this job so ez

add a checkbox to a form

deadline 2 weeks.
manager: dont worry if u cant do it or it takes longer than 2 weeks

[eternal fossil]

sounds like a healthy work environment and a nice manager

[lunar sandal]

why are they announcing govt changes

at the conference

instead of announcing it in an IRCC addressal or smth

[analog current]

no it wont

this post is just major copium

reminds of when vancouver was gonna become THE tech spot for founders

truly talanted tech workers in canada dont stay in canada

the decent ones work in mid-big tech

[vivid fiber]

It rlly depends

[analog current]

and the rest do things other than swe

[vapid latch]

just ignore him

[haughty siren]

I guess cat is an influencer

scare the kid by giving him two sum and a whiteboard

he won't bug u after that

[vapid latch]

😭

[analog current]

i love it when kids bother me

they're so curious

they wont

founders who start tech companies in canada are cheap fucks

who dont care about talent

[vapid latch]

just deadass ignore him when he talks to u

works all the time w kids

[lunar sandal]

Yep a 12 yo is gonna trade company secrets

[placid dawn]

guess the company lol

[tight gale]

Grindr? I hate how they changed the requirements

[kind jasper]

digital nomad thing is nice, though, I know people who would do that for the summer or something but don't otherwise want to be in Canada

[lunar sandal]

LMFAO

[lunar sandal]

Bro you win today

[oblique crater]

visas for “top talent” without a job offer is crazy

this is gonna make bad pay worse

[barren sinew]

I doubt the people in the US most screwed by the H1B are willing to work at Canadian rates. The people I know in the US who were forced to move to Canada weren't moving to some no name company lowballing, they were moving to MSFT or similar

I think Canada has a good chance to absorb a lot of US jobs into Canada. There's going to be a lot of SWEs employed at top companies in the US that are going to be screwed by the H1B and their company is going to look to move them to Canada if it's easy enough

Yea but this policy isn't meant to attract new grads. It's for the seniors in top US companies who have given up ever getting a green card or didn't make the H1B lottey

Those people are going to bring their jobs with them. I know a guy at MSFT who moved with his job to Vancouver since he didn't get the H1B lottery. Now that's a high paying MSFT job which wouldve been in the US if we had an equally difficult immigration system

Yea most top companies will gladly move employees to Canada if they miss H1B. My team in the US is 70% Indian. If they didn't move people to Canada, they'd have to lose the whole project

Yea of course. But theyre coming with their US jobs. A lot will also give up and go back to their home countries where they can demand high salaries relative to the CoL

Me too

[pallid reef]

lol what a genius statement

[barren sinew]

They'd probably be able to demand it. Honestly, I'd think it would push salaries up even if they are competing for jobs with Canadians. Americans are used to jumping around and demanding higher pay. We could use some of that in Canada

[pallid reef]

money is not the only thing in life of normal people

[lunar sandal]

universe telling u to go outside

[barren sinew]

And that assumes if they even stay in Canada. Most people I know who were forced to Canada are planning to move back to the US

Are you worried about immigration? Idk what a masters would get you more than an offer from SoFi

Yes ik. I mean people who've worked in America

[lunar sandal]

Wow

Snowflake

Teach us how to clear the OA

[analog current]

thats why i make the big bucks

THATS WHY IM THE CHOSEN ONE

sofi looks like a racist company

[pallid reef]

i don’t wanna dis u but it’s ridiculous

[lunar sandal]

Shudve come to Canada for bachelors

[analog current]

tech sucks ass in most countries

and it makes sense tbh

most countries have shitty companies + shitty govts + no resources + no monie

[lunar sandal]

I remember at job fair when I asked govt of Canada SWE intern people abt intl hires and he’s like “ see u in 10 years “

[barren sinew]

I feel like you need to make a list of the different options and their pros and cons. I'm kinda lost on what your options are

Ya

[lunar sandal]

Do DP

ez

[analog current]

monieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerw

all i wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww is moooooooooine

i wanna shower in monie

why

lucky for me...

[redacted]

ill be more than fine lol

and what are u gonna do here?

bro

ur making a fatal mistake imo

u have snowflake

and act like this?

bro

BRO

313513

[lunar sandal]

Sheesh

[soft hamlet]

canada moment

u of t kinda doodoo if you don't want research tho

loo is probably better

[analog current]

Asking for a friend, is SAP better or AutoDesk for infinite resume value to convert into a Faang monster

[soft hamlet]

for master's I mean

[analog current]

An ugly one

[soft hamlet]

🤨

[analog current]

He’s hideous but good at leetcode

[pallid reef]

btw I bet @analog current never says shit irl

[analog current]

i do

people who know me

know

im actually a mean mf

[pallid reef]

internet hero🗣️

[analog current]

SAP

no joke

sap helped me get into amazon

my mentor worked at sap

and

the L5 on our sister team also worked at sap

SAP is a faang feeder

no cap

im def biased here

but HEY LOOK AT ME

IM WORTH A BUCK

[hot rapids]

Probably sap, but might depend on the team. Almost every SAP Concur intern goes to a faang right after from what I’ve seen :o

[analog current]

that would be me

hi

L

other other sap intern in my team got into google

[hot rapids]

Did you work on travel or spend? @analog current :o

[analog current]

not doxxing myself

gih

[hot rapids]

Sounds like spend 😂

[analog current]

no

it wasnt spend

@hot rapids hbu

my gut says that u worked at sap too

[vivid fiber]

Autodesk imo

[analog current]

autodesk is gonna be old c++

with a bunch of boomers

old heads work there

imo

SAP is a literal faang feeder

[vivid fiber]

Yea but they hav som pretty good eng talent imo

[analog current]

like what?

sap tc is gonna be higher

no doubt

[vivid fiber]

Plus solid C++ exp is a good differentiator

[analog current]

c++ for intern 💀

idk man

no one is gonna take u srsly as an intenr

unless u get to intern at a quantshop

[hot rapids]

I would not pick sap unless it’s concur

You might get stuck with a testing role

The managers do gym class and take turns picking

[analog current]

testing is "agile dev"

if the offer u have is

"agile dev"

ur fucked

regardless of ur team

ur gonna be doing testing

[vivid fiber]

Yeah SAP is mor worth if Concur

[analog current]

and concur actually hires a lot of "agile devs"

no dude

its not just the team

its the job title too

most people get "agile dev"

[hot rapids]

You won’t know if you get a testing or dev role until you start if it’s not concur

[analog current]

no im telling u

ITS THE NAME OF THE ROLE

OH MY GOD

IF U GET

"SOFTWARE ENGINEER INTERN"

[vivid fiber]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BfkL3WgOPdI&feature=youtu.be

[analog current]

its not gonna be testing

[vivid fiber]

Also Autodesk does some cool graphics work @analog current

[analog current]

it wont be transferable

imo its more important to learn transferable skills

[vivid fiber]

Learning C++ in a professional env is worth imo

And skills don't have to be 100% transferable for FAANG (at least from my exp)

All the FAANG+ internship offers I've landed haven't been languages I've used in prior internships

[hot rapids]

Both are good, just decide when you actually seal the deal haha

[lunar sandal]

howd o i land

faang internship offer in this economy

[vivid fiber]

Recruit in 2022

[analog current]

go back in time

:Businesspepe:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1433638940649558049/SWB2UDMn_400x400.jpg

U like leetcode gods?

[analog current]

Wait why is sap concur more value than sap?

[analog current]

Correct sir

[analog current]

all sap work is more valuable, its just that if the offer u have in hand is "agile dev" ur an overglorifeid QA

[vivid fiber]

Iirc Concur was a acquisition, and usually has better chance for a good team

A friend told me dat anyway

[analog current]

concur has terrible tech

its just a bigger name in the US

[analog current]

Lmaoo what’s the tech

Isn’t it just full stack with like graph ql

Java

its all java

Ew

if ur lucky a lil bit of typescript

dont say ew bud

Ewww

amazon is like that too

u dont wanna work at zon?

99% of code at amazon is java

I don’t like bananas sir

L

[analog current]

Based in Washington instead of some German thing

most mature companies use java

java is not a bad lang imo

Too verbose

Golang >>

ugh

this is a phase

its oki

ull grow out of it

[vivid fiber]

Java isn't a bad lang, but I also prefer Go lol

[analog current]

i was like that with rust

i like ruby

its a nice lang

[vivid fiber]

Nah I just like Go

I've used it for internships and side proj

I prefer it to Java

Problem with Java for me

Is OOP

[analog current]

bro ruby

Is not it

php is even worse 🥸

[vivid fiber]

Nah Ruby has value. Rails is mature and fully featured.

[analog current]

Rails is the only reason it’s relevant

[vivid fiber]

Php gets a bad rep. Modern Php with Laravel is p good.

[vivid fiber]

Yea and for good rzn

It's a gr8 way to build fullstack apps

[analog current]

Seems legit

So you thinks AutoDesk is much better cop than sap?

[vivid fiber]

I think team matters

But generally I'd lean Autodesk

[analog current]

imo sap is better

@analog current which team, which location

Montreal location

team?

Team idk bruv

job title

whats the EXACT

job title

Bs

ya its qa

take autodesk

Rip

Ok what team would u take sap over auto

the team i was at sap

lmao

What’s dat

:void:

i cant tell u little bro

😗

good thing

dm'ed

[hot rapids]

A lot of the agile dev roles aren’t QA, so it’s best to ask the recruiter or hiring manager what you’ll be working on

[analog current]

im telling u

99% chance

that hes gonna do qa

[hot rapids]

I don’t think that’s true lol

[analog current]

ok

cope

[hot rapids]

Better to speak to the hiring manager for clarity and exactness than to base your choice on someone’s anecdotal

[analog current]

fair point

I like eating melona

With soju

Yummy combo

im tryna eat u babe

😳

Wtf

[soft hamlet]

💀

[jade hull]

immigration

[eager haven]

any companies opened summer 2024 yet?

[loud belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/pallas-cat-cat-cute-cat-cute-pallas-cat-dirk-gif-24844897

[soft hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/manul-warms-his-paws-gif-24983769

[tight gale]

Cute

[tawny raptor]

@nocturne reef isnt sofi no canadians?

[eager haven]

canadian

only big tech one i’ve seen so far has been google

[pallid reef]

what trading places

[wheat comet]

anyone here currently working at TD ?

[placid dawn]

gm kanadha

[tough knot]

👋

[soft hamlet]

intel just spamming PEY roles is crazy 🤣

[analog current]

SquarePoint capital

[vapid latch]

do you guys use the term software developer or engineer

[analog current]

same thing

although the word "engineer" is a protected term by EGBC

but no one gives a flying fuck

the chances of google reaching out to u is higher than egbc telling u to not use the word engineer in ur job title

congrats on the clio offer btw

i had an offer from them a while back

from the looks of it, its a chill place to work at

[vapid latch]

lmfao sounds good

[vapid latch]

thanks :) im assuming u rejected it for faang or smth

[vivid fiber]

Wait is Clio the company using Rails u wer talking abt?

[vapid latch]

ya

[vivid fiber]

Isn't it old tho?

I thot u said it was a new company using Rails?

[vapid latch]

that depends on ur definition of old i guess

[vivid fiber]

Ye it was founded in 2007

[vivid fiber]

Imo old is anything pre 2018 lol

That's what I meant by "newer companies seem to not be using RoR as much"

But I guess old is relative

[vapid latch]

ive heard a lot of canadian companies like RoR

[vivid fiber]

Mb for not bein mor specific

[vapid latch]

nw

[vivid fiber]

Hmm what other companies other than Spotify use RoR

[vapid latch]

lmao a lot

[vivid fiber]

Like what?

I think Wealthsimple does

But idk any other Canadian companies that do

[normal jetty]

Shopify

Fullscript

[analog current]

ya for amazon

[vivid fiber]

Nvr heard of it, but cool

[lucid berry]

where r u mf

[analog current]

its probs like typescript

[analog current]

wdym

[lucid berry]

[analog current]

im at work rn

[vivid fiber]

Nah it's a company

[lucid berry]

mf at 14 and I never see him

[analog current]

oh

[analog current]

im at yvr11

[lucid berry]

tf

[analog current]

why the fock would i be at yvr14

[lucid berry]

[analog current]

short ass building

[lucid berry]

free coffee

[analog current]

yvr11 > yvr14

we have free coffee too

FKU

YOU KNOW

WHEN I COME BACK NEXT YEAR

WE'LL BE IN THE NEWER BUILDING

so

FUCK U

[lucid berry]

I don't want return anyway

any good new grad companies btw?

[normal jetty]

Sounds like an airport

[lucid berry]

that has free food

[normal jetty]

Amazon airport

Wait I’m dumb

Yvr is Vancouver airport lol

[lucid berry]

don't care whats their TC, I just want free food

[analog current]

meta

i PRAY

to the lord

they come out w their 2024 posting

sometime soon

[normal jetty]

In 2 years

[analog current]

idc

ill delay

[normal jetty]

Meta is gonna be in full swing

[analog current]

graduation

just to intern at meta

meta is my dream faang

[normal jetty]

With the apple glasses thing

[analog current]

idgf what anyone says

like

[normal jetty]

Meta verse comes true

[lucid berry]

fuck delaying grad

[analog current]

ive been defending meta

since

last year

[lucid berry]

[analog current]

stop

fucking

SENDIN THAT

IM GONNA LOSE MY SHIT

[lucid berry]

[analog current]

stap

[lunar sandal]

arent u literally at snowflake

[soft hamlet]

IC ftw

[lunar sandal]

yk how many people would like to be where you are?

most ppl dont have the patience to do LC mediums

u arent tho

u made the OA

and the technical

nice humble brag

[tight gale]

[kindred burrow]

lol you give pick me vibes

[wooden lichen]

faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacts

facts

so facts

faaaaacts

[boreal sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/no-chiochannotsuugakuro-tsuugakuro-chio-run-gif-20920777

[lunar sandal]

So you’re neither bad nor lazy

Stop complaining lmfao

[topaz linden]

“I feel like a failure” when u have an offer from snowflake is tone deaf lmao

Saying it in a place where 90% of people would break a leg for what u have

[lunar sandal]

I stopped conversing once I realized we’re in a chat with cs majors

[placid dawn]

damn im feeling like leetcoding again

back to da grind

[fickle juniper]

What’s up 🇨🇦

[lusty roost]

🇨🇦

[boreal sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/no-money-broke-gif-19326938

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-punpun-oyasumi-punpun-punpun-onodera-lico-licocore-gif-23014250

https://tenor.com/view/mr-robot-gif-5733980

[lunar sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner-gif-20264443

[fickle juniper]

What’s up 🇨🇦

[analog jasper]

Hey guys have an interview tomorrow all the way in toronto (currently located in waterloo) this is the last round currently graduating in Aug 2023 don't have a job .they have it in person asked them if they can do virtual but they didn't budge. You think it is worth it?

[lunar sandal]

yes

the commute is not that bad at all

nvm its 2 hours by bus..dont yall have GO Train?

i swear its an hour by train

[analog jasper]

man but why are they calling me in person lol when an virtual would be so convinient

[analog jasper]

yeah there is go train

but still so annoying

[lunar sandal]

is it a technical interview/

[analog jasper]

ye

[lunar sandal]

ye they want u to whiteboard that shit

is this google by any chance..

[analog jasper]

no I wish

it is a small - mid sized company

[weak gazelle]

of course

people commute a lot more for a lot less

friday is off too

friday is part of the long weekend

..

stop

[lunar sandal]

i need chick fil a

[tight gale]

[analog current]

Why is friday off i just found out

[boreal sorrel]

prolly observed 1st of july

[boreal sorrel]

literally the best thing in us

[soft hamlet]

I get Monday off

Or rather I took it off

I don't get holidays bc I'm the only canadian

[soft hamlet]

you got zon as a freshman?

[soft hamlet]

what's that resume looking like 😭

[lunar sandal]

summer 2024?

or fall 2023

prolly the latter xd

[analog current]

summer 2024

[lunar sandal]

the posting isnt even out yet?

[soft hamlet]

[lunar sandal]

i dont get it

[soft hamlet]

ok

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[lunar sandal]

the benefits of unfair advantages growing up have had unforeseen consequences on the cs major population

hate how that word lost its potency once we started abusing it

[soft hamlet]

u of t rejected me because I haven't experienced major racism before as a Chinese person

Congrats thoooo

[lunar sandal]

did u apply cs?

only cs /rotman have supplementals afaik

[soft hamlet]

yeah, cs

[lunar sandal]

ahhh

yeah thats unlucky

[analog current]

Idk if I can give referrals but if u want one…

Next year

[soft hamlet]

supp app question is have you experienced discrimination, what did you do and would you have done anything differently if you could go back in time

I didn't know what to answer because I live in Ottawa suburbia, pretty much nothing here

[lunar sandal]

fuck uoft anyway ( as a uoft student )

[soft hamlet]

[soft hamlet]

I wouldn't have gone anyways

was just annoying

[lunar sandal]

did u choose uOttawa

[soft hamlet]

Carleton

Carleton > UO

😈

I got into Carleton, UO and Concodia

[lunar sandal]

😳

[soft hamlet]

Got rejected U of T and McGill

I got deferred to UTSC life sci even though I've never taken a bio class

idk if I would even be able to maintain the offer even if I accepted it

LOL

I even got a physical card letter

[lunar sandal]

ye they extra like dat

they want ur money before u get bamboozled

[soft hamlet]

whatever tho I like Carleton

probably would prefer over any other uni

I focus more on work exp rather than uni... probably will bite me later 🤷‍♂️ but I like life here

[lunar sandal]

this is th eway

[soft hamlet]

esp like in HS I was farming experience rather than focusing on class

I ended up with a 90%

[soft hamlet]

are you gonna do PEY? Or just keep applying externally

[lunar sandal]

i cannot tell u how many kids here focus on class grades

[lunar sandal]

im doing summer PEY rn but also gonna do 1 year after 3rd year yea

[soft hamlet]

I'm at a 3.95-4.00/4.00

major

~3.85 overall

I think in U of T scale I'm a 4

in med school 4.0 I'm 3.95

[lunar sandal]

ur assuming class difficulty distribution is the same across both unis

our first year courses have a bunch of weeder material

[soft hamlet]

for CS courses it is, but not math

[lunar sandal]

oh i c

[soft hamlet]

I've gone over the courses and they are fairly similar (at least to what I did)

the difference is you guys weave discrete math into your intro courses

whereas we have one big discrete COMP course

math courses we're inferior 100%

[lunar sandal]

yea our ML / Math / Stat content is

amazing

im taking an intro to ML class rn its p fire

[soft hamlet]

we have an ML/AI concentration

but that starts second year for maths and third year for CS

but I did an accelerated intro to cs 1/2 class which our prof made a neural net for funzies

[lunar sandal]

neural net is composition of linear functions

[soft hamlet]

and also we did random ML stuff like emotion on spotify songs

not deep theory though, it was application

[lunar sandal]

oh wew

sounds like fun prof

[soft hamlet]

he's really good

😦 he didn't let me override into his 4th year course

I wanted to take a social network, recommender systems and search engine course

in 2nd year fall

this coming fall

[lunar sandal]

wait...i just realized ur Ryan with a name change

[soft hamlet]

but I don't have either prereqs

yes

I joined the yahkuna cult

[lunar sandal]

BRO GO DO UR HW

[soft hamlet]

it ok I'm working rn

I pushed 10 e2e tests today

truly a 10x developer

one day a week is dogfood/e2e

[soft hamlet]

no need to do hw, I have a 99.8% in systems programming course

[loud belfry]

100🥱

A2

[soft hamlet]

I lost .2% on style

:/

LOL

[loud belfry]

💀

[soft hamlet]

it's whatever, we'll ace the midterm next week

[loud belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[pallid reef]

not necessarily, in most cases it’s not

it can be a composition of a set of any functions

[lunar sandal]

Tru

I forgot that each neuron has an activation function that makes the composition fully differentiable

[robust lotus]

any plans to drop pey before ur 1yr coop and apply externally

[soft hamlet]

PEY funny

[lunar sandal]

nah

[soft hamlet]

hi

how are ya

[tight gale]

New car

[pallid reef]

lit

[lunar sandal]

wtf?

posting is OUT?

shouldnt be till september... its way 2 early for full year pey rn

ig i'll come to know from the portal itself in fall xd i heard they auto reject outsidera

[soft hamlet]

of course they do

it's been for a week now or smt

I'll apply to steal spots from u of t

🙄

[soft hamlet]

Winter 24

Where

[fickle juniper]

Happy Birthday 🇨🇦 ||also what’s up||

[limber dirge]

happy bday 🇨🇦

[boreal sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/canada-canadian-flag-canadian-canada-day-running-gif-17672837

[tight gale]

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-robot-gif-5733980

they tellin me to let go of the embedded pipe dream

[soft hamlet]

[weak gazelle]

Yea I see tons of people in masters programs doing SWE internships

In fact

Probably a bit easier to get coop if in masters

Not sure tho

yea but that’s true for any country uni

But probably easier from Canadian unis

relatively

wdym

I think that’s a Chinese citizen thing?

About going back after J1

What requirement are you referring to

There’s tons of internationals in Canadian unis who intern in the US

I’ve heard of the .2 yr thing only for Chinese citizens

[soft hamlet]

[soft hamlet]

Hiiii

[worldly ridge]

I dont want to celeberate canada day

[wheat comet]

yoo who called me

happy canada day @worldly ridge

[worldly ridge]

STOP IT

[wheat comet]

why its okay

miss you bro

been a while we should catch up

[weak gazelle]

Meet me at Yonge Dundas @unreal field

[oblique crater]

whos down for toronto meetup tomorrow in the rain it’ll be aesthetic

[weak gazelle]

I’m

Im on Victoria

[oblique crater]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-robot-gif-5733980

[weak gazelle]

nulname

Stop

[weak gazelle]

me

[oblique crater]

me and the boys at yonge and dundas

[weak gazelle]

Victoria is not rich dude

That would be King st

I’m moving out rn

to my new place

I wish

It’s a house …

I’ve wasted enough on rent

subjective

I’d same same

View is worse

[oblique crater]

did the view not get boring

[weak gazelle]

no

landscape never gets boring tbh

[oblique crater]

house is so much better imo the freedom you get is worth it

[weak gazelle]

yea valid

that’s what I believe too

lot easier to order Uber eats too

[oblique crater]

personally it would be tough to go back

[wheat comet]

me

lets meet up at jane and finch

[pallid reef]

Happy 🇨🇦 day

hi @weak gazelle

[weak gazelle]

hi @pallid reef

[pallid reef]

🌍

realistic af

[weak gazelle]

[lunar sandal]

guys is monday off

cuz today was canday

so like do i gotta hop on slack monday or nah

aight

ty

[weak gazelle]

yes

I get both off

Technically I also get Tuesday off cuz most of my team is in the US and they’re off

[wheat comet]

hey guys how are your days going

[worldly ridge]

who asked

[worldly ridge]

im outside of eatkn centre, where r u?

[weak gazelle]

stfu

me too

i see u

yo

nulname

look behind u

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-turn-around-driving-gif-11831872

[wheat comet]

im at harbour front centre , ill be at eaton in like 15 minutes

[weak gazelle]

done

@worldly ridge where u at

back from vietnam?

[wheat comet]

@worldly ridgethank you for your service

🫡

[tight gale]

[radiant nexus]

Any companies that are hiring senior interns with no job experience in Canada?

[lunar sandal]

wtf is a "senior intern"

[wooden lichen]

prob means senior studnet

[soft hamlet]

Probably 4th year

[oblique crater]

banff or jasper?

[oblique crater]

a gem from #full_timers, enjoy it here

[weak gazelle]

anyone in toronto looking for a place for sept, dm

[lunar sandal]

rent: 4000

specs: closet and bathroom (no sink)

pros: "view"

average 6ix listing

[weak gazelle]

stop

[weak gazelle]

found

[lunar sandal]

if ur a real estate agent in toronto tryna sell this shit

u should at least feel some shame before putting the listing reel out

[weak gazelle]

fr

but 4k is on the lower end

i'm looking for a place and all the good ones are higher

[soft hamlet]

must be in bay street or somethign

[weak gazelle]

no

shared

2 bedroom or 3 bedroom

[weak gazelle]

no

[wheat comet]

wth.

[lunar sandal]

💀

[soft hamlet]

💀

[analog current]

yo im thinking about selling shovels

“LEARN HOW TO CODE WITH THESE 2 SIMPLE TRICKS”

“HOW I GOT INTO FAANG WITH THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK”

“HOW I LANDED UR MOM IN 20 STEPS”

fuck this 9-5 shit man

it’s torture

[soft hamlet]

[worldly ridge]

I AM NOW

i jut came back

im gonna cry

post vacation blues

[pallid reef]

what’s so good about vietnam?

[worldly ridge]

you dont see homeless people 🙂 a big breath of relief from shris condo in harborfront

https://www.reddit.com/r/VietNam/comments/12v8xuu/where_are_the_homeless_people/

[pallid reef]

fair enough

[worldly ridge]

besides then that, everyu1 goes out and touches grass at night, bomb food and everyone was also very nice n friendly, defo the one of the friendlist coutnry ive visited

[pallid reef]

where do u live since u mentioned homeless

[pallid reef]

that’s coool

[worldly ridge]

its also itneresting that people there are progressives (if you care about politics :p)

[worldly ridge]

went to a lot of places in hanoi and saigon

[pallid reef]

oh idk anything about vietnam, i mean in canada

[worldly ridge]

oh do you mean in canada ?

[pallid reef]

lol

hahahaha

[worldly ridge]

I dont wanna dox myself soorry hehe, but i always see homeless people in toronto :l

@weak gazelle 's homebase

[pallid reef]

telling a city isn’t really doxing but yeah

toronto doesn’t have too many tho

at least i haven’t experienced it

[worldly ridge]

damm do u live in anice area?

[pallid reef]

no idea what that is lol

[worldly ridge]

my cousin works near jane n finch, i always get videos of homeless people on the ttc freqneutly

[pallid reef]

hahahahah

a nice area

[pallid reef]

i mean, it’s not something enormous if u compare to other cities in NA

[worldly ridge]

i compared it to vietnam, it was a mssive qol for me

i dont have to worry about not crossing a homeless encampment u noe

[oblique crater]

what’s the TC in nam

[worldly ridge]

DEAD AMERICAN SOLDIERS

happy ju;y 4th to the best coutnry in the universe 🦅

[steel escarp]

imagine getting destroyed by walking bush

[worldly ridge]

stop making fun of the greatest country ine arth

[steel escarp]

[worldly ridge]

who is this here

800 LC cracked

[weak gazelle]

it is a simulation

[zinc knot]

dawg are there any damn roles out there

[static scarab]

ur viet too? 👀

[worldly ridge]

no im not, i travleed to vietnam 🙂

[static scarab]

good choice, everything is dirt cheap there

[worldly ridge]

bro i ate like 10 dishes a day

my favorite was banh trang

[static scarab]

lol i just missed the food sm here 🥹

[static scarab]

which one, the one like a salad?

[worldly ridge]

canadian vietnamese restrautns are no match for actual vietnamese food

[worldly ridge]

i ate all the different types of bhan trang

i love the culture too though tbh, everyone toucehs grass after work its so cool unlike @weak gazelle

[static scarab]

lmao

ye hs and college entrance is insanely competitive but everybody just sorta chill after that

[worldly ridge]

ahh did u move to canada from vietnam recentlty?

[static scarab]

ye i moved in grade 11, now im 2nd year

[steel escarp]

ahh i remember when I was in vietnam 🤣 I have never been a good student

[worldly ridge]

dats cool 🙂 hope ur enjoying 🇨🇦 !

[worldly ridge]

Thank you for your service 🫡

[steel escarp]

Nw! Gotta make that money.

[worldly ridge]

🫡

[steel escarp]

[static scarab]

I do miss the internet cafes

[daring scaffold]

[soft hamlet]

no way

💀

new brunswick too

🤦‍♂️

[steel escarp]

oh ye the vibe there is awesome lol

[soft hamlet]

f23 hasn't been great either lol

time to get ghosted again

I'm not taking f23 seriously

I'm looking for w24/s24/f24

[wheat comet]

? where

[soft hamlet]

ai-based crud

[barren sinew]

I couldn't find any news story about this. Only about cohere.io which is a different company

[candid oxide]

diff cohere

[soft hamlet]

time to become a line cook

[analog current]

ohhhhhhhhhhh myyhyyyyyyyyyy goooooooddddd

working at amazon has aged by 20 years

[pallid reef]

lol

faang enjoyer

[tight gale]

[wheat comet]

every morning i wake up trying to manifest that when i pick up my phone and go through my emails, i will have an email for an interview , and every morning im wrong

[analog current]

looks like we’re all going for a masters degree given this horse shit market

[analog current]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2023/06/28/us-h1-b-visa-holders-targeted-by-canadas-new-immigration-program/?sh=4b5e7bce59b5

for what job?

i’m willing to bet there are more tech jobs in india than canada

we barely have job openings for our new grads, how the fuck are we going to find these mfs jobs

[fierce lotus]

hmm

ik family friends in the US whose companies didnt extend their h1b lol

[fierce lotus]

ye def and the pay is better considering the col

[analog current]

[fierce lotus]

nah legit

[analog current]

no ik

[fierce lotus]

in india u can save 60% of ur income easily

[analog current]

ya the cost of living there is probably nothing

but my point is

why doesn’t canada focus on creating more fucking jobs

there are next to zero tech companies around here

[fierce lotus]

i mean who would outsource to canada

when they can outsource to india

[analog current]

no one

[fierce lotus]

ye

[analog current]

ya

it just doesn’t make sense

[fierce lotus]

it does lol canada doesnt have any significant industry

[analog current]

rail road

oil

that’s it lol

[fierce lotus]

lol

ye ppl just come coz ez immigration compared to the US

if the US had less wait times no one would come to canada

[analog current]

canada has so much potential tho

[worldly ridge]

honestly canada was nice until livign cost became insane

[analog current]

bro the scenery here is one of a kind

but damn

[fierce lotus]

move to alberta sir

[analog current]

as a young professional i have no incentive to stay

[analog current]

even there it’s getting crazy

[fierce lotus]

ye

housing is doing okay at least as of now....

[analog current]

not for long buddy

it’ll catch up

[fierce lotus]

ofc

[worldly ridge]

High rates, high prices

[fierce lotus]

lol

who even buys these homes smh

i wanna know what these ppl do

[worldly ridge]

gen z and younger kids are so screwed

[fierce lotus]

for a living

[worldly ridge]

people HELOC

[analog current]

makes perfect sense

[worldly ridge]

used BRRRR strategy back then

[analog current]

i’m not gonna lie bois

doing a masters in the US seems like the best option

[tight gale]

is it time to move to india for job

[fierce lotus]

bruh

they ask cp questions there

in interviews

u srsly wanna move there

[analog current]

for fake dollars

[tight gale]

cp not illegal in india?

[fierce lotus]

bruh

[analog current]

u think mfs follow the rules there?

[worldly ridge]

stop it tech lead

[analog current]

oh….

[worldly ridge]

this is y ur wife left u

[analog current]

nvm

and took the kid

[worldly ridge]

^

[tight gale]

[analog current]

it’s oki