canada

[analog current]

the people look cringe

its too early in the morning too

cant be bothered

[dark wren]

guys, what shud i expect for software dev interview at ibm?

[eternal fossil]

lc for sure

is this first round ?

[vast aspen]

any blackberry fall 23 ppl here?

[real storm]

yeah give it to me

[analog current]

i would legit do it

[charred mantle]

yo 💀

it's actually a nice place

[analog current]

no its not

cope

[ember spire]

Anyone know how does the interview process for Square look like? I remember they send out an assessment first but this time I got invite to a phone interview

[limber dirge]

Which role? And for summer or fall?

[ember spire]

it's a full time position. I applied to too many so not sure which team it's for

[summer matrix]

Aws?

[earnest mortar]

Aws is the only org that didn’t get delayed

[summer matrix]

Same boat

[dark wren]

that’s right

i hope it’s not very technical

[open fox]

Have you heard back from BlackBerry after interview?

I got 30min without LC as well. Just prep for your resume. They would dive deep on it.

[tough knot]

No LC that’s weird. Do most companies hiring first year or interns not do any technical questions.

[tawny raptor]

Most dont

Maybe oop trivia at most

[edgy barn]

Can anyone help me decide between Cisco and SAP for internship? The pay is pretty similar, but I wanna get opinions of people here.

Not too much info: SAP is in web dev, and cisco is in software development (whatever that means). I've emailed to get more info but I'm treading carefully lol

[limber dirge]

Is it cisco or Cisco meraki?

[analog current]

Currently at cisco if u have any questions

Also is this for fall co op or new grad?

Anyone here familiar with 1password internships?

[edgy barn]

Plain cisco unfortunately :/

Yea, it really depends on the team.

What makes you say that, like what specifically on linkedin indicates that SAP could be better?

[edgy barn]

Omg thanks! It's for co-op. How's your experience overall working there? Is it easy to convert to full-time after grad?

[hot rapids]

I thought cisco paid more than sap?

Cisco was like ~$41 when I got an offer from them

SAP for me was ~$30

I think SAP is pretty team dependent, it's pretty hit or miss. You could be on a pretty good project or one where you're doing manual testing. What you end up is sometimes on the whim of the manager that picks you for their team.

I think if you're applying for SAP Concur, that one is full-stack and much more predictable on what you'll be doing. I would recommend that role/posting the most

[analog current]

So far so good. I like my team a lot. My project is interesting. Wlb is great. Pay is good. One of the engineers on my team was a co op convert but now with budget tightening i cant rly tell, but teams are still hiring

Any data points?

[lunar sandal]

yp

wjere is 1p application?

i cant find it

[analog current]

On their website

I took all the jobs

[lunar sandal]

holy fuck

so many

[analog current]

Bruh what da hell since when were we hiring for fall co ops

[lunar sandal]

did u hear back

from 1p

man

is sap only in QC and BC

[pseudo storm]

did anybody get tickets to collision?

[lunar sandal]

i did

but apparently its fuckign garbage

[pseudo storm]

is it actually

[lunar sandal]

yeah i looked online

ppl saying they had to wait hours for events

and by the time they next in line the events over

[pseudo storm]

yeah just seen this https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestionsCAD/comments/vhgd28/is_collision_conference_worth_it/

[analog current]

Thats good

Are u familiar with what the interview process is like?

Do i needa LC monkey mode?

[tawny raptor]

Fr?

Waterloo spreadsheet has very very different data than that

i mean 4 internships != first year

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kMBu1_TONgzZ0Ysz3d2OYiu1O8kDftZxT3INxrz8hII/edit?usp=sharing

25/h (1st coop), 29/hr (2nd coop), 32/hr-1300/week (3rd coop), 42/hr (5th coop?)

this checks out with 4 internships then

[reef iron]

ya one of my second year friends got 29

at 1p

[topaz linden]

I did

[reef iron]

i can attest the first and second data points

[pallid reef]

do they pay more than 80 a year?

[topaz sentinel]

just got rejected from tcs, I think it's time to move to south america and become a coffee farmer instead

[analog current]

numbers are wrong

the numbers are literally outta whack

recent loo kids been mid at best

i don’t see them landing as many fancy internships lately

[eager haven]

anyone know how much 1password pays?

for internships

[analog current]

Easily

[tawny raptor]

Some are old

[pallid reef]

@analog current do u go to a well known school?

[tawny raptor]

Ehh

[cerulean herald]

13 open positions for 1password 😭

[lunar sandal]

and I applied to every single one

[analog current]

canada fall

is over

no more postings

https://tenor.com/view/frog-chill-gif-18325010

[paper ether]

never gonna post again

[analog current]

it’s finished brother

[analog current]

no

[pallid reef]

hold on, why do people pay 995 to attend collision

and is there any other events in toronto in june that are worth it

[soft hamlet]

from what I understand, a lot of people get tickets through their workplaces to attend

[pallid reef]

makes sense

cause it’s a robbery

whoever can pay it must be a speaker there

[limber dirge]

vancouver?

@analog current why'd you delete it lol

[analog current]

u can easily dox me

w the info i shared

i don’t like being doxxed

[open fox]

[topaz sentinel]

Had anyone interviewed for Trapeze Group

Has*

[analog current]

dox dox dox

[soft hamlet]

[open fox]

[pallid reef]

it’s still for fall right

[soft hamlet]

[torn mortar]

hey so rn i have the option of going to UofT (but the mississauga campus 💀) or Queens for CS. My goal is to get a job in the US and ik UofT is more recognized but it has a system called POSt that means getting into CS isn't guaranteed. Everyone is admitted to a more general first year and then you apply to CS from that, so there's a bit of a risk with going to UofT - Mississauga.

My other options is Queens. While its cs program is not as strong as uoft I'm guaranteed direct entry to the cs program and the queens also has far better social life than uoft.

I'm rlly not sure which to choose tbh so I've been asking around for opinion on uni discord servers but i thought id ask here too

does UofT's recognition help at all, esp when trying to get internships

[thick sinew]

Post isn’t that hard to get into

If you have some prior experience coding before uni you should be fine

If you don’t have any then I would recommend starting to learn some basic stuff now

[torn mortar]

from what ive heard the mississauga campus has roughly 25% acceptance rate for post

[torn mortar]

i have a lot of experience

in python, java, c#

[thick sinew]

You’ll be fine

When I was making it into post I was working as developer at the same time and still made it

[torn mortar]

what do you say about this

which campus were you at

[thick sinew]

Sauga

[torn mortar]

oh

are you still there or graduated

[thick sinew]

Still here

[torn mortar]

what year?

[thick sinew]

Just finished second year

[torn mortar]

oh nice

what do you think about social life at utm

[thick sinew]

Sucks ass

Could be subjective tho

I would say im pretty well acquainted with most students in my year in cs

[torn mortar]

💀

[thick sinew]

But the friendships you make don’t really make it past the classroom of you ask me

[torn mortar]

ill be living on residence

idk if that changes anything lol

were you on res?

[thick sinew]

Oh okay yea then I think you won’t have any problems

Nah I commuted

[torn mortar]

ahh

yea i heard commuter students complain a lot

honestly i keep switching back and forth from queens and utm, i think ill just take utm

regardless of which i take ik for a fact ill wonder what would happen if i took the other

[thick sinew]

Yea best advice I can give is just make it into post

[torn mortar]

ill self study the harder classes

[thick sinew]

But don’t prioritize your gpa after that

[torn mortar]

ah

[thick sinew]

Because this school will suck the life out of you eventually

[torn mortar]

acc i might prioritize gpa cuz grad school

[torn mortar]

what 💀

is it that depressing

[thick sinew]

It could be a lot of work to get a high grade sometimes

And it usually won’t be worth your time if you asked me

[torn mortar]

i kidna wanna do grad school so wont gpa matter for that

[thick sinew]

3rd and 4th year gpa matters somewhat from what I hear

[torn mortar]

ah

yea

[thick sinew]

But also experience and research are pretty prominent

[torn mortar]

ive heard that first 2 years dontt matter as mcuh

[torn mortar]

yea research is the other reason i wanna come utm

[soft hamlet]

passed post

gg

[torn mortar]

bro ryan i wish i applied carleton 💀

[soft hamlet]

[torn mortar]

its all good tho

[soft hamlet]

too late eh?

[torn mortar]

just gonna grind post 💀

[soft hamlet]

you chose UTM tho

[torn mortar]

yea

welp

[thick sinew]

It’s not that hard

[torn mortar]

technically not yet, i still have queens open

[soft hamlet]

Some UTM people transfer to Carleton

there are still chances in the future

[torn mortar]

if i fail post ill be seeing you then

lol

[thick sinew]

Switch to utsc if you fail post l

U can just try again at a different campus

[torn mortar]

dont think its that ez to transfer after first year th

[thick sinew]

Idt utsc is too bad

Transferring downtown to cs is difficult however

[torn mortar]

yea out of stream cs post is insane

[soft hamlet]

[torn mortar]

i found a guy trying out of straem cs post at utsg

[thick sinew]

Don’t worry about post it’s really not as bad as people say

[torn mortar]

@thick sinew if you could go back to when you were choosing unis, would you change your midn

and choose smthng other than utm

[thick sinew]

I woudlve applied to downtown

commuting kinda sux living downtown is pretty cool

[torn mortar]

i got deferred to physical and mathematical sciences in downtown lol

considered taking it and majoring in smthng else

[thick sinew]

I didnt even apply because my parents wanted me to stay at home

what was ur avg

• ecs

I thought downtown CS takes anyone

[torn mortar]

no direct conversion cuz i didnt go to high school in canada but roughly 97

[torn mortar]

ECs were rlly good

solid leadership positions

and even an internship (altho this was lowk kinda sketchy)

and some programming projects

[soft hamlet]

HS internship gang

[thick sinew]

damn deferred with a 97

[soft hamlet]

🤝

[torn mortar]

yea

honestly was so disappointed

acc the worst of my college decisions was ubc sciences

didnt even get in there

which was hella depressing cuz ik peopel with way worse applications tha got in

[soft hamlet]

I got deferred to life sci utsc even tho i've never taken a bio class lmaoooo

I would literally be missing the prereqs to get into the program

[torn mortar]

my reason for not applying to utsc was literally that i found the campus ugly

lmao

[soft hamlet]

oh yeah UTM is wayyyy better for campus

but way worse for post

[torn mortar]

yea UTM post is the hardest of the 3 campuses

except utsg out of stream 💀

[soft hamlet]

Carleton has mostly the same coursework as utsg out of stream

except no proof calc

[thick sinew]

proof calculus is aids

stay away from that

[soft hamlet]

[thick sinew]

regular calculus is SO much more easier

proof calculus is just a waste of time imo

[lunar sandal]

i'm utm cs

going 3rd year this fall

trust me, post is useless

if u fail: take the minor, make sure to take CSC373 and write : Computer Science and (ur major/spec)

ur employers have no way of checking past "Bachelors of Science" when they tryna check u on hiring

imo dont waste ur time, u can spend that getting extremely cracked at LC and dev

and utm cs culture is horrible

you will be stunted af in terms of industry value

scroll up, u see kids from CARLETON (no offense) in 1st year with more know-how than most 3rd years

[torn mortar]

Ngl these conflicting opinions online are trippin me up 💀

Appreciate the input tho

[lunar sandal]

i grinded very hard for post

and in the end realized it wasn't worth it

[supple quiver]

Its not even that bad

Take 102 in the fall, 148 in the winter

Make sure you pay attention

And u make post

[wooden lichen]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[kind jasper]

I did Queen's for CS... quite a while ago. Lots of my fellow classmates ended up getting a job in the US, Amazon, Facebook, Google, etc. are amongst the places people ended up (also places like Canadian banks, Ubisoft, etc).

I went and did my own thing on a pretty non-traditional career path

[torn mortar]

Could you elaborate on this

[torn mortar]

Ah yes def seems like in the long term prestige doesn’t help at all

[lunar sandal]

the hype is baseless

i think I elaborated sufficiently above

you spend a year trying to 4.0 2 courses, while someone else somewhere is learning how to destroy interviews. Come end winter for Summer hiring season, and he's better off than you are.

this is what I mean.

[analog current]

^

[lunar sandal]

you cant do backtracking or dfs bfs, but he can

[analog current]

I go to mac and got a google interview in my 2nd year

[lunar sandal]

because you only learned enough to make the 80

this was me end of 1st year.

[lunar sandal]

yk i got mac CS/SWE but chose not to go

[analog current]

not flexing but i got around 11 interviews in my 2nd year because i spent all of first year grinding projects and LC

[lunar sandal]

smth abt ur guys' curriculum being ass

but at the time i was in HS so obv i had to make decision off of that

[analog current]

it was (kinda still is) but theyre improving it a lot

[lunar sandal]

yep exactly

this is exactly what should be don

[analog current]

mac first year CS was pretty light so I had ample time to grind on the side

[lunar sandal]

GO TO EASY SCHOOL, GET DISCIPLINED

[analog current]

and maintianed a social life

@torn mortar

[lunar sandal]

intuit sir

cisco referral plz

[analog current]

yes brother

[lunar sandal]

for fall

[analog current]

i got u

send me job link

[lunar sandal]

oh fuck i think i applied already

[analog current]

depending on the role I might be able to get the hiring managers email

[kind jasper]

I think soft skills were (long term) at least as valuable as hard skills, from uni. Especially things from clubs, working with/managing people, projects, etc.

[torn mortar]

Yes queens is sounding good ngl

One thing tho: people often say uoft program quality is better than queens. Tbh I never understood what they mean by this

[analog current]

too many people to count from mac got into FAANG and ik a guy who got hedge fund offers

[torn mortar]

Are they talking about course offerings? Professors? What is it exactly that makes people say one program is better than the other

[lunar sandal]

all of those things

uoft v good research school

[kind jasper]

I don't think a commuter experience is as good anywhere vs. living on/near campus (regardless of university)

[lunar sandal]

but only if u wanna be academic

[analog current]

ya for grad school u of t is king

@torn mortar do u really need to transfer into u of t sg for 2nd year?

no i spent it doing projects

step

[lunar sandal]

idet google hiring

anytime soon

or any FAANG

😦

[pallid reef]

why

[lunar sandal]

cuz they overhired last season

i dont see any G postings up anyway

[pallid reef]

and laid off a ton of people

[lunar sandal]

💀

[pallid reef]

wtf

lol

[lunar sandal]

must be silicon valley kids

[pallid reef]

no fucking way man

100%

[lunar sandal]

ouu

[kind jasper]

Queen's is also very highly rated for research, but, it really depends on your specific niche whether or not it would even make sense to look there for grad school (UofT is a bigger school, and, has more variety, so, you're more likely to find whatever niche there, but, there's certain niches where they're not as good as alternatives). At the grad school level so much more of what makes things work is meshing with your supervisor personality wise, research topic wise, etc. It's so much more about picking a supervisor than picking a school. Sometimes the supervisors even switch schools and take their students with them.

[pallid reef]

i mean 5 people is brutal

for the whole Canada

there’s only step and explore for 1-2 year students?

faang

[analog current]

@lunar sandal

bruh cisco is hiring for fall?

[lunar sandal]

i think so

[analog current]

where'd u apply

[lunar sandal]

https://jobs.cisco.com/jobs/ProjectDetail/Software-Engineer-Intern-Canada/1382480

check if this is still valid for fall

[pallid reef]

haven’t heard about this one

[lunar sandal]

or did they leave it up there

[pallid reef]

i meant to reply to this msg

[lunar sandal]

may not be acc idk

year doesnt rlly matter bro

ur uni year doesnt mean much

if ur coming in with a lot of knowledge alr

[pallid reef]

sounds like a good deal it remains to get into it

[lunar sandal]

like u can be SWE L3 LEVEL

at 18

[analog current]

idk if it is

[lunar sandal]

i c

ah true true

[analog current]

ill talk to my recruiter on monday and lyk

[robust lotus]

Convo reminds me of that guy who started queens 1st year with 400 lc done

Xd

[lunar sandal]

isnt there someone like that here too

some 2000+ on LC guy

got dropbox and shit

[robust lotus]

Lmao

Idk if uoft's rigor is worth going through just to be a crud dev

O

[lunar sandal]

tbh i got my current internship cuz it was uoft exclusive posting xd

and its rlly good too

touch wood

there r benefits

but not enough for the post hype

[robust lotus]

Probably high schooler #1 most prepped for interviews in the country outside of olympiad kids

[kind jasper]

I really do think that the best students can do well wherever they go for uni. I'm not convinced it matters as much as people in HS (or currently in uni) think it does.

[torn mortar]

Wdym

[robust lotus]

Calc 3 required course for cs kids lmao

[torn mortar]

Why would I transfer into utsg

[robust lotus]

I took uoft tho

I think the name is too much of a wild card to give up

[analog current]

huh 😅

[torn mortar]

Which unis were they from

[analog current]

isnt that the whole purpose behind post

[torn mortar]

Which campus

[analog current]

yo canada

[robust lotus]

utsc

[torn mortar]

Nah post is to get into Mississauga campus CS as well

[analog current]

mm

1password

do they hire almost exclusively from waterloo?

[torn mortar]

1password?

[analog current]

does a mac brother have a chance?

[analog current]

ya its a company

[lunar sandal]

yall have crazy co op bro

utsc

i didnt apply cuz i thought i'd get shanked on my way to scarbz

FALL?

aint no way they alr hired someone

ah

[analog current]

ok

imma need

the emails of every 1password recruiter

[torn mortar]

do yall happen to know which canadian uni STEP students came from

[analog current]

dw about that

[lunar sandal]

probably. waterloo

[torn mortar]

also is it true that w STEP your racial background can help if your a minority

[lunar sandal]

if i had to guess.

[lunar sandal]

i will get hate for saying this but, this is always a booster

companies have diversity quotas

[torn mortar]

ok does indian count 😭

[lunar sandal]

no

[torn mortar]

welp

[lunar sandal]

u are a majority in the tech world

[torn mortar]

i was hoping since it wasnt white it would help

[analog current]

my step recruiter told me that its not just a racial diversity program they also try to diversify univeristies if that makes sense, so they focus on people from lesser known unis

[torn mortar]

does religious background factor into the diversity thing

[analog current]

no

[torn mortar]

tf??

[lunar sandal]

typical bro

go enjoy ur summer

[torn mortar]

why would they hire avg people over crackked

[lunar sandal]

last summer of hope and sunshine

[torn mortar]

hope sunshine and rainbows but after i can choose a uni lmao

dw im enjoying tho

been on that fortnite

💀

[lunar sandal]

nah i c u i c u

[torn mortar]

serious question tho

why would they get normal applicants??

over cracked

[kind jasper]

being good at interviewing, leetcode, school, doesn't necessarily translate into what the company actually needs, especially not long term, especially if people are job hopping or expected not to remain long enough for the investments in training them to pay off, etc. (I don't know anything about them in particular, I've just seen this in general)

[pallid reef]

like absolutely no experience?

[torn mortar]

ngl im kinda doubting that

[pallid reef]

😵‍💫

[lunar sandal]

dont

[pallid reef]

that’s interesting

[lunar sandal]

things like this r extremely rando

luck v imp factor in applying anywhere, just like ur utsg cs decision xd

ik cuz i was top 3 at my school and still got deferred to math n phys

[kind jasper]

I've known a hiring decision to come down to which person would be a better fit in a band based on the instrument they picked because two candidates were otherwise so evenly matched that something had to differentiate them

[pallid reef]

lol

[torn mortar]

can i not put my ethnicity down lol

[lunar sandal]

LMFAO

oh

oh u said band

[drifting shore]

No

[lunar sandal]

i thought u meant company i was like wtf?

[torn mortar]

ye same lmao

[lunar sandal]

arent u

queens

kid

[kind jasper]

it was for a research position, the band part wasn't relevant to the actual position being hired for, it was just they needed something

[drifting shore]

Ye

[lunar sandal]

yea this is him

[torn mortar]

who's him?

[lunar sandal]

how goes it bro

the 400 lc count guy

[torn mortar]

tf 😭

yall are crazy

that being said

respect

how much time did that take

@drifting shore

[lunar sandal]

can u tell me why 3d DP top down not working for this q?https://leetcode.com/problems/count-palindromic-subsequences/description/

do i have the right idea atleast to use 3 params

[pallid reef]

hahahahs bro took his chance

[torn mortar]

@drifting shore would you say all that lc paid off?

[drifting shore]

Didn’t get any technical interviews so I’m just gonna do nothing at family friends company

[lunar sandal]

i mean i got the sol but i wanna see how quickly he pattern recognitions it

[torn mortar]

😭

damn

what do you think prevented you from getting an interview

lack of side projects or smthgn

[lunar sandal]

shit job market

[torn mortar]

welp

@lunar sandal just to be clear you reccomend against going to utm right

[kind jasper]

that's another one of those random factors that has a lifelong impact on earnings, unfortunately

[torn mortar]

what if i mention that i wanna go to grad school

does that change anything

[lunar sandal]

still

just go somewhere else lmfao

get boosted gpa

then apply to uoft grad

[drifting shore]

Didn’t prepare for behavioral interviews

[torn mortar]

love conflicting answers . . .

why do you say that

[kind jasper]

try to pick somewhere else, not the same place for undergrad+grad school (ideally)

[drifting shore]

I know people with cracked projects not getting anything at waterloo

[torn mortar]

damn

i mean i haerd the market wasnt great

but that bad

[torn mortar]

oh yea why do people say that btw

different places

heard it a few times

[lunar sandal]

its called academic incest

[kind jasper]

different places have different cultures, attract different students, do things different ways, have certain biases, etc. If you go multiple places you get more perspective about things, can see different tradeoffs each place has made, etc. If you're also doing things like switching the city or country you do these things in, that's useful life experience, too, in determining what you like (but, that's not even necessary)

I've taken uni courses at Queen's, RMC (Royal Military College), and the Australian Institute of Business, each had a significantly different vibe, and, each was also different from online courses I've done from some of the US/Hong Kong universities or the in person courses I used to teach at a Chinese university

[drifting shore]

I think it should work

[analog current]

Anyone that is familiar with the 1password interview process for the love of god/peer reviewed academic journals share some info

Or knows someone that is

[lunar sandal]

pov: u applied to all 13 positions

[analog current]

Pov: tryna work remote

Pov: cisco pushing for RTO

[lunar sandal]

ahhh

[kind jasper]

if you look up the researchers in your field/niche that you're interested in, you typically find that they themselves have been in different universities, too, not just one.

[analog current]

Pov: dont wanna move to ottawa

[lunar sandal]

wait ur office is in ottawa?

[analog current]

Team is based in ottawa im remote tho

[lunar sandal]

holy fuck dont tell me all of cisco is ottawa

[analog current]

😁

Depends on ur team

[lunar sandal]

there is no way im stepping out of the gta

[analog current]

Theres a chance you’ll get matched with a remote team or one thats based in toronto

But most Cisco Canada development work is done out of the ottawa office

[pallid reef]

@mystic gull have u seen resumes that got into step with 1 experience

or it’s too much lol

[torn mortar]

trippy

[pallid reef]

everyone i could find for this year step is asian

[thick sinew]

No cap

[oblique crater]

it’s impossible to give a one size fits all piece of advice for cs

people are different and motivations are very different in this major

[grave quest]

experience or not, it just matters about your passion and work ethic, I think it's normal for step ppl to not be super cracked but as long they are competant and show that passion, cracked or not, I think they'll excel

[ashen mason]

The internship program has a focus of providing development opportunities to students from groups historically underrepresented in tech

[analog current]

[paper ether]

ottawa is super lit

[analog current]

Sure but my family and friends are more lit

[paper ether]

ottawa is in fact not super lit

@analog current

[analog current]

I agree

[analog current]

I have a few friends who got step, i did cssi and took a gap year

One of them wants me not to show their resume however, I can dm u what the other ones exp was like

I think I know, 5 people? no Canadians though but I’ve heard of them through the grapevine 💀

OH ik a guy i can link u up with at ur school who got explore

[pallid reef]

dm me

btw whether Im minority or not only depends on my skin color?

[kind jasper]

if you're talking general ESG guidelines, gender's big, too, but there's other factors (just look up whatever company you're interested in's latest annual proxy statement/annual report, in amongst the financial statements will be what they care about written at length, assuming this is a public company you're talking about/interested in being hired by... if not, the general UN guidelines are a place to start - https://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/ )

[torn mortar]

wait do you agree w him btw

[analog current]

testing

testing

y’all need to see these dn

[robust lotus]

Already saw death note

[wicked geyser]

Why has the house rent gotten so expensive in Ontario, when is it gonna get better 😭😭😭

[reef iron]

did u get one?

[analog current]

No but i wanted to prep early in case they ask LC

[reef iron]

what if u dont get the interview

[analog current]

welp in that case

[worldly ridge]

Me in downtown tornto rn

TC: 40k
Rent: 5 bedroom with roomates, 10k per month in non rent controlled apartmetn

[tight gale]

Nice minimalist setup

[wooden lichen]

carleton try to not make the worst timetable builder challenge oh my god

[analog current]

tc: 500k

[analog current]

Normalize living with your parents

[paper ether]

im with my parents

its awesome sauce

i agree

but also get to save 40k+

live for free

eat for free

not richer

less debt

:)

[storm stream]

cuz no one wants to live Winnipeg or Saskatoon

<@&868936794601828492> pls ^

[rose sierra]

thx

[worldly ridge]

bruh how much is your rent to save 40k

[paper ether]

food too over 4 years

[worldly ridge]

oh your refering to livign with your parents for 4 years

ehh perosnaly i would spend the money i spent on my uni town againr ather then livignw ith my parents, had so much fun and memories; expensive af though

[soft hamlet]

ikr same, saving money very nice

[analog current]

does not showing up to an interview put me on a company’s blacklist?

[pallid reef]

so true

[kind jasper]

I mean, if you miss it, rescheduling (or trying to) should be on you, not them

[soft hamlet]

mostly Carleton yeah

current employee counts, doesn't consider all the past interns

[soft hamlet]

This is proof that Algonquin > Waterloo

Frfr

[fickle juniper]

Ngl

Never heard of Algonquin

[analog current]

i just meme'ed kinaxis soooo hard

the guy was like

"do u wanna withdraw ur application?"

"this is a qa role"

i was like lol

i just emailed my recuiter saying

id like to withdraw my app

proof

[analog current]

na kinaxis is way too trashy

like its actually next level trash

[lunar sandal]

WAKE UP BABE

INTEL REJECTION JUST DROPPED

[tight gale]

Yo

[tight gale]

[soft hamlet]

Ottawa college

during raw HTML/JS/CSS era of web dev, you could do a 6 month intensive web dev diploma and get a corpo job that paid pretty well (not anything glamorous like SWE or whatever but it was the lowest barrier of entry)

[idle plover]

gimme

[worldly ridge]

@ebon oasis

[analog current]

Anyone hear back from intuit?

[grave quest]

@worldly ridge

[sudden wave]

I had a great experience with Kinaxis last term so it’s probably team dependent

[fast warren]

https://careers.google.com/jobs/results/124424466764571334-software-developer-intern-bs-summer-2024/

[analog current]

[analog current]

What uni is this at? Pm if u dont mind

[mellow anvil]

anyone hear back from vidyard after doing an interview?

[thick sinew]

Huh

[analog current]

yo ima need google to pull thru

this amazon biz aint fun

[thick sinew]

Oh I was on subway message didn’t load

Ya last fall

Was like 22.5 hourly and yea I got return

[novel dome]

bb is so low 💀

[thick sinew]

Yea lol

Some interns were paying rent as well and that was like half of the monthly pay

They didn’t really offer any other comp

Just salary

[primal pier]

is the return offer higher

for bb

[pallid reef]

I hope they’ll open STEP later

[analog current]

i hope they dont

fuck u newbies

[pallid reef]

fuck u

how many do they hire for regular

don’t think there’s much more spots for it

[lunar sandal]

bruh the posting is literally for next year

i think they got a couple to spare 💀

[pallid reef]

lol i’m saying in general

in comparison to step

[tight gale]

[thick sinew]

They didn’t give me any info it was literally like contact HR if you want to come back

[analog current]

sigh

sighhhh

where’s my google offer

[analog current]

i’ve rejected those companies

we’re not the same

nothing beats free

do one term

then do internships

u don’t have to do ur masters “on time”

no one term in canada

oh

then what are u talking about

u don’t even have an option rn

mf talking in hypotheticals

no

none company + none tech role is death

that’s better

do that

dumbass mf

just wait for summer 2024

bro what are u gonna do w a 70k degree

stop it

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-7929301

these degrees don’t amount to shit

sit down

u can get the same ibyerbships at loo

save ur monie

bro….

academia has u by the balls

what school anyway?

they will

worse case u take semesters off

[real storm]

dude do you even wanna do this masters

cause that is a huge sum of money and opportunity cost

💀

[thick sinew]

Anyone gotten an interview at doctalk

[analog current]

ya it’s UT

i think i rmb u talking about it

[worldly ridge]

bruh you shouldve just not finished ur undergrad, do 1 class at a time at ur final sem

[analog current]

then UT it is

honestly i’m not qualified to give u any suggestions

so i’m gonna sit down

[worldly ridge]

oh wait!!

i forgot ur us

💀

[real storm]

one year of undergrad costs more than a year of the masterS?

[worldly ridge]

i see your issue now

💀

bruhhhhhhhhhhhh

[real storm]

i swear masters is like 25k a year or some shit

[analog current]

yiiiiikkkkes

[real storm]

HOLY SHIT

[worldly ridge]

@nocturne reef you a us citizen?

marry me

[oblique crater]

masters program should be free

[analog current]

bro i’m gonna use that time to just become a sr eng

[worldly ridge]

ull get canadian cit without masters

[real storm]

i swear most companies pay for masters though

[oblique crater]

if you pay for masters it wasn’t meant to be for you

[real storm]

like outta pocket they will pay you to do it

[worldly ridge]

yeah but now u have to do masters

if u marry me, u dont have to do that

[real storm]

imagine paying 10k to fix a broken arm tho

LOL cant be me

[oblique crater]

yes its at -38k rn you will get so much debt for free

[worldly ridge]

watch doug ford privtaize dat

[analog current]

i interviewed there twice in the past

[worldly ridge]

im broke so sure

🙂

[real storm]

if he actaully does im coming for him

[analog current]

u have a masters admission (i think) at loo why would u wanna go drop 70k on a masters in the states when u can get a better name and better opportunities and safe money

how about this

[worldly ridge]

buahahah good point

[analog current]

u just sit on DN

[worldly ridge]

i agree

[analog current]

i agree

when are u graduating brosike

when do results come out?

for ur undergrad

also whered u do ur undergrad and what was ur gpa

bro ur working backwards

[analog current]

@nocturne reef

everyone is tryna get into the US and find US based jobs

ur out here

trying to get OUT of the US

ya cuz it’s not ng season yet

oh ur not american

L

[worldly ridge]

true

after witnessing breads on toast

UK should not exist as a coutnry

honeslty i think ur move is solid

safer option rather then beign deported

yeah for surem hopefullyt he market is better by then

maybe ull like canada more

🍁

oh okay ull hate it here then

[analog current]

its a trashy company anyway

u dont want it

why dont u just get into ibm, sap, oracle tier companies

try harder

[thick sinew]

Did you have an interview this term?

[analog current]

nope, its not that great of a company from what i heard

take it if u have no other offer tho

[novel dome]

Anyone worked for Ceridian before? If so, how much was ur salary

[placid dawn]

s23+ or iPhone

[raw ocean]

iphone

[novel dome]

It seems like it

25 usd or cad?

Also anyone hear back from rbc?

[mental monolith]

where are u guys finding new grad canada jobs these days

i havent been seeing them in linkedin lately :\

[novel dome]

That’s like $35 or $36 CAD

That’s good isn’t it?

Also when u applied for bb, was it through a us or cad posting?

[paper ether]

Thats good

[novel dome]

It’s hella peanuts then

For remote it looked good

Honestly it was straight forward

OOP questions

With like some lc easy

But they didn’t ask me to code

But rather just explain how I would solve it

Where r u located??

[vapid latch]

anyone get splunk frontend OA? what’s it like

[sudden wave]

Imagine hearing back from Splunk

[soft hamlet]

chill af

recruiters were all nice

no LC coding, basic questions

[novel dome]

Mine wasn’t a web dev role

But I would expect some basic web question

Usually the asynch vs sync function

If it’s react role then maybe abt hooks etc

Ye

But honestly they won’t ask tooo specific questions

It’s mostly gonna be abt ur resume type thing

Like since it’s a JS role, if u have a JS project they will ask abt it

[analog current]

@unreal field

Did they give u a document with more specific details about your role?

Usually all you need to know is the stuff on there

[eternal fossil]

anybody here do an OA for CSE ?

[worldly ridge]

any1 starting to smell the forest fires

[eternal fossil]

not yet

just hazey

[loud belfry]

[worldly ridge]

Mark my words...becasuie of climate change - in the future california will suffer from drought and wilfires, Austin will suffer from drought, Seattle will ,NYC will sink from flooding, we will beccome the next tech hub with big USD TC.

[lunar sandal]

wtf is cse

[eternal fossil]

communications security establishment

some government wing

did an OA in like february ?

or march ? im not even sure

got an email a month later that they received my results and will be touch with next steps

got an email last month

that they are now sending my profile to hiring managers and if i dont hear back from anybody within 3 months then its kaput

and its been 3 weeks since i got that email

[lunar sandal]

they rlly like speaking in 3's huh

in other news

GOOGLE SWE INTERN FALL DROPPED

[novel dome]

congratz

now go make air safe

go get pipd

[eternal fossil]

its insane lol

i have no idea if ill even get a reply back

[novel dome]

cse is the cia of canada

[lunar sandal]

late by 1 day

[eternal fossil]

its CSIS i think

CSE is just another branch of CSIS

[novel dome]

is it??

csis deals with internal security

thats fbi

[lunar sandal]

i thought cse meant computer science engineering

[novel dome]

cse deals with foreign/international

equivalent to cia??

[eternal fossil]

yeah

wait you put csis twice

[novel dome]

sry

[eternal fossil]

not really

its pretty decent for ngs

like 95-105

thats the pay band

[novel dome]

new 100k in govvy????

ayo

[eternal fossil]

ya no kidding

they have a modifier for tech ppl

like that allows them to price match

[novel dome]

u sure abt this

seems so high

wait nvm

it could be possible

[eternal fossil]

lemme share the posting if i can find it

[novel dome]

thats the pay scale

[eternal fossil]

https://jobs-emplois.cse-cst.gc.ca/en/node/3438

UNMA-07 level: $91,585 - $106,204 per year
UNMA-08 level: $99,861 - $115,504 per year
UNMA-09 level: $107,432 - $124, 208 per year

[novel dome]

damnnn

time to apply for cse

[eternal fossil]

if u get in lmk

its atrocious how slow the process is

[novel dome]

ye

govvy is alwas slow

too much red tape bs

[eternal fossil]

yeah its all in person too

so garbo lol

but cant complain

[novel dome]

atleast their hq

[eternal fossil]

need job

[novel dome]

is the most expensive gov building

[eternal fossil]

ya this

they got a gym and other shit in there

seems pseudo fun but we'll see

[novel dome]

a cool $1B on it

[sour lark]

yep was confused when there was a red moon last night didnt realize this was why

instead of going to mars elon brought mars to us

that would require him to actually achieve what he says he will tho so not likely

in the future the ipad kids will be vr kids

so dark

[vapid latch]

what websites do u guys use to apply to the government jobs?

just the gov of canada?

oh u linked it

im blind

[analog current]

Bruh whys the fall season so dry

[vapid latch]

how was it? difficult?

[analog current]

Am i late or early?

[vapid latch]

^

[eternal fossil]

Easy to Medium difficulty wuestions

[vapid latch]

oh nice

[topaz sentinel]

It's been 2 weeks, do I send an email or nah

[placid dawn]

khanhadha

[real mason]

I did the C++ and C oa's for CSE, it was a bunch of multiple choice, and 1 LC easy and 1 LC med

[eternal fossil]

Yeah basically

The questions were somewhat on the medium side

[thick sinew]

Has anyone done the RBC GAM sofware developer interview

[limber dirge]

Has anyone negotiated their Wealthsimple offer before? I know there's a range but idk the ceiling. I was able to negotiate a slight bump but I think they're holding out lol

[lunar sandal]

what year r u

and what prev exp did u have before landing WS?

[timid heron]

intern or ft?

[storm stream]

I've gotten a few extra bucks per hour by just asking nicely 🙂

[limber dirge]

3rd year and a few local startups and Intuit

[limber dirge]

Intern

[lunar sandal]

so going into 4th?

askin cuz i got rejected so fast 💀

[limber dirge]

no going into 3B I have school in the fall

[storm stream]

you from uoft or waterloo?

[lunar sandal]

uoft

[limber dirge]

at WS? mind if I DM?

[storm stream]

no no not WS... but sure DM

sorry I meant at my own internships, not WS

Never got into WS LOL

[lunar sandal]

[timid heron]

can't dm u, but i never heard of negotiating WS intern offers*. i can check if intern salaries are tiered for ya

[lunar sandal]

mr miguel o hara

when did u get a swe job

[limber dirge]

are you at WS?

[timid heron]

stole it from spidey in another dimension haha

[lunar sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-dancing-gif-24233159

[fierce lotus]

is it too late to apply for fall internships?

[storm stream]

how cringe is this? (I applied anyway)

[fierce lotus]

is this for winter?

ah

any companies open for winter?

[limber dirge]

Yes

[stone moth]

Lol

[muted portal]

ikr

new grad or intern?

[analog current]

indian mfs cucked themselves

[analog current]

Looking for fall co op but graduating april 2024 so both

But new grad hasnt started yet

Im concerned about fall

[novel dome]

anyone end up hearing from cibc,bmo,td,nokia?

[lunar sandal]

REJECTION from td

[lunar sandal]

These companies started feeling themselves a lil too much after layoffs

Rejecting last cycle took around a month

Now it’s 1 week !

[topaz sentinel]

reject from td, no response from everyone else

[vapid latch]

i just get totally ghosted

[novel dome]

Sounds like

We all got that reject this morning

Mood

Ohh

Speedy delivery

So all of em

[topaz sentinel]

Got it yesterday but it was for ft roles

[novel dome]

Ohh

R u looking for ng roles then?

[supple quiver]

I applied to intel 10 min ago

I got rejected by email 1 min ago

Auto rejection

[lunar sandal]

otpp rejected my fucking video essay

fuck them

all those roles sound boring im ngl

whats the tech stack

[novel dome]

🐐

[lunar sandal]

i told someone ik at interac to forward my resume

to hiring committee

seemz like they didn tget the memo!

[novel dome]

How to get into deloitte

Sheeesh

What exp do u have

[supple quiver]

Tbf being close to grad helps

[lunar sandal]

i remember u from utm server

u going into 2nd or 3rd yr?

[supple quiver]

2nd

[lunar sandal]

jesus

atleast

[supple quiver]

Msft is nice

[lunar sandal]

market is better for u guy

s

after post i applied everywhere and got rejected everywhere

[supple quiver]

What year are u

[lunar sandal]

going into 3rd

[supple quiver]

Do u have any exp

[lunar sandal]

i copped an internship yeah this summer

[supple quiver]

Nice

[lunar sandal]

ML startup

what company are u at

ah no im not lookin 4 new grad

tex me 2 yrs later

[novel dome]

💀

[supple quiver]

Sounds like me

[lunar sandal]

no its not cohere

cohere hiring is so fucking random

[lunar sandal]

yeah apply all thru fall

until december

ur bound 2 get something

[supple quiver]

Alright

[lunar sandal]

what class

[novel dome]

Anyone know how much the salary ranges between intern and new grad in companies

[fickle juniper]

Usually quite a more for new grad

[tight gale]

[placid dawn]

delaying grad 1 year 😳

[topaz sentinel]

Yessir

[novel dome]

How much do you think on avg

Would 50% more than intern salary be realistic?

Hmmm

[analog current]

How confident are you in that

[novel dome]

What would u pick for ng ceridian or rbc?

[analog current]

Team dependent

[novel dome]

Levels shows 120k TC but idk if that fully true

[analog current]

For rbc or ceridian?

[novel dome]

Ceridian

[analog current]

Do u know what team you’ll be on?

[novel dome]

I have a intern offer atm

But I’m just thinking of the future

[analog current]

I was at RBC this winter so I might be able to help out with some info

What division at RBC?

[novel dome]

I will msg u a bit later if you don’t mind

[novel dome]

Tech & operations

[analog current]

Ya fs go ahead whenever u need bro

[analog current]

Same

[novel dome]

That was reported for ceridian

Rbc is prolly 80-90k range

I just wanted to figure out ceridian ng

[normal jetty]

Did u hear back from ceridian

[novel dome]

Got a offer

[celest grove]

Does anyone have input on how much harder it would be to find internships without being in a proper co-op program?
Choosing between schools rn

[novel dome]

Oh Ye def

But I’m not 100% sure if that tc for ceridian is accurate or not

Noooooo

Real monke moment

Happens to the best of us

Where can I appply

[vapid latch]

cat lmao

[paper ether]

what is a software design concept]

[hazy heath]

Hey ppl what's your opinion about the most hot and in demand backend+frontend tech stack in Canada at the moment?

[lunar sandal]

there are

1091234141456 reddit posts

on this exact topic

[analog current]

Not much

Def helps but not a necessity

[soft hamlet]

If you have 0 experience, co-op is a much easier way to get your foot into the industry

if you have exp then you gain a lot less from the co-op program

[storm stream]

Depends on the school... for example my school had a "co-op program" but it was completely useless and I found all my internships independently

[soft hamlet]

for us it's a co-op report at the end

I did a first year external internship

they just plugged up the reqs tho

people who were in my accelerated section could cheese first year co-op

but they just changed the reqs so that you can't do that

😔

whatever tho that just means I get 5 work terms

[storm stream]

only uofc does that cuz it's a brain dead co-op program 😂

[celest grove]

thanks sm everyone it helps a lot
It's kind of hard to find straight answers online and I don't want to fuck up my career 🥲

[soft hamlet]

which schools did you get into