canada

[vivid fiber]

Iirc their US postings also apply to Canada

[fickle juniper]

yeah idk why i didn't know that

[vivid fiber]

Cuz when I applied to the US posting they gave me the option for the Toronto office (for ng tho)

[vast aspen]

anyone here interview with rbc?

[placid dawn]

my friend works for them

says easiest internview and works 2hours a day

[ripe crescent]

are there rbc ng positions out?

[analog current]

Did a co op there

Its team dependent but ya thats sounds reasonable for a lot of teams

Only thing is theres a mandatory 3 day in office now

[placid dawn]

anyone worked for health canada

[modest narwhal]

guys whats ur opinion on ericsson swe? team is 5G tech stack c/c++

[worn moss]

they hire alot of interns

ik so many first years in loo that r interning at rbc this summer

[muted portal]

any repo for fall internships yet

[ripe crescent]

anyone have experience w FDM?? opinions even lol??

[tawny zephyr]

one of my teammate for hackathons has almost the same resume as me got accepted for RBC just by his resume

and like 1 lc easy or med

I forgot

[placid dawn]

always been ghosted by rbc

[soft hamlet]

most productive bank employee

[soft hamlet]

I've been told wages are low

[normal jetty]

Security didn’t let me walk in

They said I need “permission from intuit”

[topaz linden]

Did you try walking in with a group of people who were there for the event?

[normal jetty]

I should’ve went early when a lot of people first came

[normal jetty]

No, I should’ve

I came late because there was a medical emergency on the subway

A women had a seizure in front of me unfortunately

She was fine afterward though thankfully

[fickle juniper]

Open up a random slack and pretend its intuit

Be like "I work here, look at my slack"

[stark patrol]

Sent over 600 apps since last July. Literally 0 interviews from online apps.

I've changed my resume, tried sending emails instead. Are there other recruiting strategies that I should be trying? I just graduated and got nothin lined up, its been hell applying

[fickle juniper]

Wdym by sending emails?

Maybe a good idea to get ur resume reviewed if u haven't alr

Otherwise the market is just effed atm for new grads

[stark patrol]

Good call, made a post here in the resume channel: #1109252982391980172 message
And i mean like cold emailing recruiters

Yeah but half of those were even intern roles and still 0. I had been saying its just the market by my percentage is so abysmal that it must be something I'm doing wrong

[stark patrol]

I was in Canada for both

[soft hamlet]

Going to networking events 👍

I applied to 8 internships after getting referred by 2-3 recruiters after meeting them at an event

I got 3 interviews

You socialize which shows you aren't just coding in your basement and antisocial

You get resume reviews from people actually judging whether you are qualified or not

And if everything goes well you get an interview

My university advertises and hosts events for current students, alumni and whoever wants to sneak in

LinkedIn, it's pretty regional but Eventbrite has some events up

[stark patrol]

Thanks, Ill continue to check all these out!

[lunar sandal]

LMAO

[soft hamlet]

[lunar sandal]

bro it’s not that easy

That approach

Is done by tons of ppl

[soft hamlet]

Oh right it's a CS server

[lunar sandal]

I done it too at my OWN UNIS CAREER fAIR still got ghosted

No extroversion isn’t the hard part

[oblique crater]

some days you just catch the right recruiter at the right time

[lunar sandal]

there’s a lot of extroverted ppl since a lot of ppl ( myself included ) came into this shot for money

[stark patrol]

lmao this year at ours multiple companies had booths but weren't even hiring. like wtf

[lunar sandal]

the hard part is giving enough fucks

[oblique crater]

it hasn’t worked for me personally but I can totally see it working for others and I’m extroverted

[soft hamlet]

That does happen

[lunar sandal]

To follow thru

With the recruiter and pester em

[soft hamlet]

[lunar sandal]

With getting 0 results in the meantime

[soft hamlet]

Local agency

Freelance

And then just got a remote startup job

Yes kinda

I have a 1 year contract with a college

I do web dev

They are my client 🤣

I'm the sole dev 💀

Ok and

[lunar sandal]

Why do u delete everything like an autist

lemme read damn

[soft hamlet]

Because he's spouting bs and doesn't wanna be called out for it

He said he got 4-5 offers from f500 companies so therefore he is able to say that networking bad

[lunar sandal]

Everyone’s struggling

The least u can do is be supportive instead of inferiority complex

in a fucking discord channel of all places

Christ

[soft hamlet]

I at least have job

Also I just finished a first year, how am I supposed to get big company jobs like cmon

🤣

[eternal fossil]

whats with these recruiting agencies

been ghosted again

they tell me they love me and im smart i should get the job then boom ghosted

2-3 emails sent no reply

[soft hamlet]

Recruiting agencies are poopoo

[eternal fossil]

just so ppl know

its robert half this time

before it was this random dude off actalent

the rants in here already for that

[analog current]

No bro this is the only server on discord

https://discord.gg/csmajors

[tawny zephyr]

this guy aint real bruh

[mental monolith]

god damn brother

i am tired

[worldly ridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/839866815541805116/950432493838930000/ds.gif

https://tenor.com/view/me-and-the-boys-walking-skeleton-happy-lego-gif-16508640

[edgy barn]

Does anyone know if a f500 company can cancel my interview if I reschedule it to a later date?

Basically, I have some other interviews to do in between, but Idk if they can cancel it if they find a suitable candidate before interviewing me.

[formal galleon]

The company being f500 has nothing to do with it, any company can cancel an interview whenever they want for any reason that they want

Even if you dont ask to reschedule if they found someone and didnt feel like interviewing you anymore they can cancel it

[edgy barn]

Yea, that's what I'm worried about it. I thought they'd at least interview everyone right?

[normal jetty]

Has anyone here interviewed at D2L before ?

[soft hamlet]

Well think about it this way, do you think they screen every resume that gets sent in?

From the start it's not fair, it's all at the recruiter's discretion

[solemn steeple]

Has anyone heard about converting from an internship at Amazon in Canada to full time at Amazon in the US?

[merry umbra]

I've read that newgrad hiring cycle typically starts in fall, anyone have more details about this vibe

[oblique crater]

nah the cycle will start mid summer but mainly american companies with offices here, more will post around fall and throughout the winter

[merry umbra]

cool

[normal jetty]

Not possible

[analog current]

Isn't amazon not doing conversions rn

[atomic bramble]

When does Summer 2024 intern postings and recruiting usually begin?

[boreal sentinel]

starts july with the bulk of applications released july-august

[fickle juniper]

For Canada? No way

Most postings come out in Jan 24 for summer 24

With the earliest starting in August 23 (Amazon)

[soft hamlet]

Last year a lot of Canada ones near me opened in October when most networking events started

[sudden wave]

not possible, they specifically state in their onboarding package that your offer is only offer in the region that you interviewed in. They won't even let you switch offices within Canada lmao.

[boreal sentinel]

for usa

canada ones are released way later, amazon canada for s23 released in mid july

[molten rain]

Hey everyone! I have a technical screening interview at The Thinking Ape coming up. Has anyone gone through a similar process or have any insights or tips to share? I would greatly appreciate any help or advice. Thanks in advance

[storm sierra]

When do winter job postings usually come out?

[worthy fjord]

Prolly around September

[storm sierra]

kk, thxx

[soft hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/canada-canada-flag-canada-day-balloons-gif-26050193

[solemn steeple]

Oh sorry I meant to full time in the US

[somber coral]

has anyone using mint mobile been able to sign up for venmo before ?

[atomic bramble]

What issue are you facing?

[somber coral]

thinking of signing up for a plan but i saw a few threads from a few years ago where venmo was blocking people's registration when they used their mint number

i need to transfer money in the states :(

[atomic bramble]

What about using Zelle?

[somber coral]

oh i haven't looked into that but that would also work - do you need a us phone number ?

the main thing is my landlord wants to be paid on the first day i arrive and they won't accept cash

so mint+venmo seemed like a good option because i could frontload some of the paperwork and stuff to today while i'm still in canada instead of doing it all on day 1

they also won't accept that sadly but yeah good shout

[atomic bramble]

Ah, I think Zelle doesn't work with Canada accounts. Unless you have a US account?

[somber coral]

i have an account with rbcbank US version LOL but i don't think they support zelle

[atomic bramble]

Have you tried chatting w them/emailing them?

[somber coral]

i could definitely open a bank account when i'm there, is there a waiting time or can you get it done on the same day ?

nope unfortunately not

[somber coral]

yup i chatted with them earlier today :) their answer was kind of unclear they were like try and see LOL

[atomic bramble]

I think its possible to get it done the same day. You can go in-person to a bank too usually they setup the same day

[atomic bramble]

Ah I see

[tranquil goblet]

anyone ever turn down an offer from a company only to reapply to the same company for a different co-op term?

oh snap i didnt even think about doing that

i'll try that out thanks @unreal field

anyone know what i should say in dis email lol

"u wanted me b4 pls take me back"?

[fickle juniper]

Did u turn them down via email? I would reply to the same one and express ur interest in a fall position

(or whatever term)

[tranquil goblet]

ya i did, i just emailed them rn.. lets see what they respond (if they even respond) lol

[analog current]

do we have any stats on how many canadians make it out of canada (and into the us)

specifically for swe based roles

[fickle juniper]

Maybe if there’s somewhere the TN visa numbers are public? Not sure

I’m assuming ur asking specifically about new grads

[analog current]

ya exactly

[mental monolith]

Man

[analog current]

Splunk fall 2023 or new grad 2024 open yet? When do they open?

[azure spire]

80 percent or smthn of waterloo software engineering mans ended up in US

iirc

https://twitter.com/danluu/status/1351785083598893062?lang=en

Dan Luu (@danluu)

~85% of Waterloo SE grads move to the US on graduating*.

Multiple US metros end up with more Waterloo grads than all of Canada combined (Bay, Seattle, likely NYC).

Vast majority of this govt. subsidized CS education benefits the US instead of Canada 🙃.

https://t.co/4PTQGC7YrG

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Twitter · Jan 20, 2021, 6:54 AM

[lunar sandal]

how sad! anyway i'm still unemployed

[fickle juniper]

wow that's nuts

it's impressive they have such detailed info on their students in the first place

[worldly ridge]

I know some UW friends who are international that purposely stay in Canada just to get PR and citizen

to each their own :3

[errant field]

that's true for most internationals in Canada i think

but yeah, I don't think a lot of UW internationals are moving to the US

[lunar sandal]

does anyone know any orgs that subsidize internaitonal student interns for corps in Canada?

i swear all i can find is explicitly for PR/Citizen/Refugee

[worldly ridge]

canada is going to be the next super power 😈

[vivid fiber]

I know a ton of intl students that do this

[worldly ridge]

yeah I would do the same too if I were in their shoes

[reef iron]

ya unfortunately

its not as if they have an option

if they go to

US

then they dont get canadian pr

and if us kicks them out

its gg

[reef iron]

but y is this guy commenting on this

and thats just se

which is a small program

[worldly ridge]

😅 is eveyrone here goinig to the US after getting citizenship or graduating

@weak gazelle canada is the best, dont you agree?

[reef iron]

its unfortunate bc they dont have the option

not saying that u should move

Necessarily

[worldly ridge]

haha im just kidding, yeah financialy it dosent make sense not to move to the Us

[rigid meadow]

How much leetcodr should I know if I’m looking for first year internships?

[reef iron]

depends on the company

u could get an internship without knowing any

[tawny raptor]

Prob none

Realistically

Most of the interviews my friends and I had for first/second coop didnt ask any lc

[supple quiver]

Even at relatively known companies?

[tawny raptor]

Many were publicly traded american multinational companies

But not faang

[supple quiver]

Yeah perfect

thats what I was wondering

Like non local companies

[tawny raptor]

Yeah

[reef iron]

like which ones big bro

[worldly ridge]

nice!!!

when r u going?

I thought you got an offer at a Canadian company too?

congrats brother 🫡 ! dang thats realy soon haha

excited?

thats the spirit 🙂 👍

Im going to go to bed now, good night sir 👋

[placid dawn]

how long do security checks take

[barren sinew]

Where at?

Sweet. Congrats

[tight gale]

congratz friend

[soft hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/canada-nghedgehogs-gifs-flag-oh-canada-maple-leaf-gif-24993563

[analog current]

Whats apple hiring like in canada?

[fickle juniper]

It’s team dependent

But it seems they care more about ur experiences than the company you’ve worked for

[novel dome]

What are questions to ask during an interview

[soft hamlet]

I've talked to apple new grads, every team does whatever it wants

some LC, some behavioral, some multiple rounds, etc

[analog current]

Whats the best way to get apple to notice you

[soft hamlet]

go to networking events with apple recruiters

or submit applications and pray

[soft hamlet]

front end cashier

not quite engineer yet

[real storm]

where are these lmao

tryna find one

[soft hamlet]

there were a couple industry mixers at my uni

🤷‍♂️

other than that they don't really have presence at many events

[vapid latch]

for bank referrals do u need a referral prior to applying

[storm stream]

Apparently Cash App is in Canada? Here you go new grads: https://jobs.smartrecruiters.com/oneclick-ui/company/Square/publication/904b21cf-6667-445b-97f9-6c20fe9504bb?dcr_ci=Square

[worldly ridge]

Damm how much is their TC

[lucid berry]

higher than 0 I think

[fickle juniper]

Referral

[soft hamlet]

nah they have a couple montreal no?

[fickle juniper]

There’s a Van office

[storm stream]

There's a Cochrane office for Maps (small town outside of Calgary)

Same town as Garmin HQ 🤣

[storm stream]

It's Block so I hope more than 45k

[real storm]

if they're giving me a discount on apple products and a 180k+ offer

i will live in a box if apple tells me to 💀

[fickle juniper]

U can get 200k+ in Canada

ICT3 new grad

[real storm]

anyone got an apple referral/

[storm stream]

Why did they shutdown rooftopslushie

used to be able to buy a referral for $10 lmao

[fickle juniper]

U need a referral from someone on the specific team

[real storm]

prob some tech company sent them a cease and desist or some shit cause they're employees were getting more than their paycheques allowed

[worldly ridge]

Not anymore. It's almost July, - positions for 2024 grads are openign up. It's going to be an EMPLOYEE's market so companies has to offer competitive TCs 😈 who is with me?

[storm stream]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-dead-inside-gif-26152629

[worldly ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[topaz linden]

They hire in Vancouver

Interns^

[normal jetty]

Idk why there’s random apple offices in the middle of nowhere that barely hires anyone

Btw does garmin hire a lot of interns ?

[lunar sandal]

where r all the fall postings

[storm stream]

The Alberta office always hired interns from what I recall

[dark wren]

anyone interviewed with carta for swe intern before? what’s the process like?

[storm stream]

@lusty quail

[lusty quail]

IIRC it was a pretty practical 1 hr interview focused on your position. Minimal leetcode

[dark wren]

I’ve heard they give a huge case study for the interview and ask to code it up. Is that true?

[novel dome]

Nope

Still waiting

Also when did h apply to the banks?

I see

[lusty quail]

It's not as scary as you make it sound lol

But they give some prompt and ask you to code it then followed up with some design questions

You should have enough time to do it

[soft hamlet]

Friend asked recruiters, RBC is starting to look at resumes and send out interviews

[dark wren]

how long ago did u interview with them?

[lusty quail]

Last year

[ripe crescent]

Has anyone interviewed with GreenShield?

[analog current]

bump

^ intuit mainly

[worn moss]

lucky fuck

[crystal folio]

Intuit is the best of them, omega chill and $43 CAD phr intern pay.

[analog current]

No doubt

Cali based with Canada satellite office always top of the line

[fickle juniper]

I think for like investment banking this might be true

[vapid latch]

anyone interviewed for cerridian?

also is it just me, why do none of their mydayforce jobs load the application?

[analog current]

bro i’ve passed the resume screening for some top notch companies but i’ve never been able to get rbc’s attention

[soft hamlet]

[soft hamlet]

I did interviews with RBC at a conference and got ghosted

two days of interviews

[analog current]

rbc's bar higher than two sigma

frfr ong

[soft hamlet]

I did 7 interviews in total

[analog current]

[soft hamlet]

7 interviews in 2 days

ghosted after

[analog current]

thats unironically more rounds than 2sigma

7 rounds for rbc?

holyshit dude

thats so jokes

all dat for 🥜 pay

ALLL DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

FOR 30 bucks an hour

💀

[soft hamlet]

I don't think it was rounds each of the department heads of the mtl office came down one after the other

[analog current]

NO WAY

oh my god

[soft hamlet]

$25/hr

[analog current]

we need to fix canadian pay

[soft hamlet]

😭 unironically ~25

[analog current]

we need to unite as tech workers

i got an offer from hsbc a while back

[soft hamlet]

[analog current]

it was around 40 i think

it wasnt too bad

the interview was dead ez too

[soft hamlet]

some were going through resume, behavioral, small systems design things (for the compatibility team)

nothing leetcode

the people I met were pretty anti lc

one of them was like I like seeing resumes being half leadership

??

[analog current]

man canadian interviews are jokes too

its so messy and unorganized

[soft hamlet]

I am at 26 for my first internship

got downgraded but dats ok

yes just finished first year

[analog current]

oh boi

[soft hamlet]

[analog current]

i rmb when i was a first year

my first internship was sap (yes im flexing a bit)

[soft hamlet]

🤨

how tf did you get sap

[analog current]

i got lucky

[soft hamlet]

literally all I got was a startup position

interviewed at rbc, cisco and startup, only got startup offer

[analog current]

ya its not a reproducible result

[soft hamlet]

[analog current]

no legit it was luck

[soft hamlet]

yes

[analog current]

for almost any company in canada

canadian companies be worse

[soft hamlet]

different teams came down to see me because the event was near the RBC mtl office

SWE

intern

[novel dome]

is that capital markets??

aint no way rbc does 7 rounds

[soft hamlet]

yes

[soft hamlet]

yes that application

[analog current]

almost impossible to land

[novel dome]

landing regular rbc is impossible

[analog current]

ong

[soft hamlet]

yeah, started off with a backend staff dev, then ios, data, frontend, backend, compatibility, etc

I don't think anyone was on the same team

it's like one general pool and they pull from it

hence the rng

I only asked for backend and they kept introducing me to different people

[analog current]

we need to overthrow canadian companies

[novel dome]

shri

since ur ex rbc

give me questions to ask in rbc interview

[soft hamlet]

mainly because my resume is so varied that it makes me a slightly qualified candidate for a few different things

[soft hamlet]

I unironically got asked about compatibility of minecraft java vs bedrock

would think that because these people took the time to come down to see me that it would mean some progress yk, it is what it is tho

:) reapplying next year

isn't it already open

https://jobs.rbc.com/ca/en/job/R-0000046641/2024-Summer-Capital-Markets-4-Month-Global-Markets-GMP-Summer-Analyst-Program-in-Toronto

ah not the SWE one

[analog current]

im telling yall

no one is gonna land this

[novel dome]

💀

[soft hamlet]

keep misinforming people so I am the only applicant and therefore get the job

[analog current]

[tranquil goblet]

anyone do that codility test from demonware? the one u do before even applying to the job

[novel dome]

ye

[soft hamlet]

also can I land cisco this year

pls pls pls

I got to interview and they were like uhhhh wait ur a first year we don't really hire first years

[analog current]

L

i rmb interviewing for msft's explore program when i was in my first year

[soft hamlet]

they sent me the interview req before I did the OA

[analog current]

good times

i wish i was in ur shoes ryan

[soft hamlet]

I didn't even get my resume looked at

[analog current]

ik

[soft hamlet]

what kinda god resume did you have

[analog current]

ull make it

dw

i was JUST like u back in the day

its good that ur starting in ur first year

a lot of kids dont even know what an internship is

[soft hamlet]

I got my startup offer in oct

LOL

[analog current]

What would be the consequences of fabricating my transcript to seem like a 2nd year so i can apply for msft explore

nothing

[soft hamlet]

like 2 weeks into the school year

[analog current]

the consequences would be hella money

Alright im doing it (jk)

[novel dome]

ty ty

[soft hamlet]

go for it, how would they check

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-gif-25116980

[novel dome]

its on thursday so can prep tmrw

[soft hamlet]

just don't give them a transcript

shave a couple of your old internships

[novel dome]

ty ty

[soft hamlet]

I'm doing well rn because I have freelance on the side as well but it doesn't beat having a good name on paper

[novel dome]

general dev posting

sde

we shall see if i bomb the interview

prayin i dont fumble for 30 mins

[storm stream]

interns or new grad?

basically same positions as undergrad

[vivid fiber]

There's a few here

[storm stream]

wtf... was it a ghost posting?

[pallid reef]

free masters? is it a decision of department?

[tight gale]

does citadel hire <1 YOE as new grad?

[steel escarp]

Dont u have >1?

[tight gale]

nop not yet i started like july last year

[steel escarp]

Hmm i think cit should hire 1yoe as a ng lol

[storm stream]

How's Circle going

Binance said fk u Canada

I wonder who's next

[lucid berry]

me

[steel escarp]

Its been good lol

Pretty chill

[storm stream]

[steel escarp]

Hows the grind

[storm stream]

LOL depressing

1 interview and I choked

[tight gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0jq42xgTzo

[vivid fiber]

That's good to hear 😊

[steel escarp]

Ur going to the state next month right? Lol

[vivid fiber]

Next next

But ya

[steel escarp]

Its gonna be fine lol. I coping that thr market is getting better

[steel escarp]

Nyc? 👀

[storm stream]

back to tiktok?

[vivid fiber]

Nah

[vivid fiber]

I nvr worked there

[vivid fiber]

Sf

[storm stream]

oh oops

[steel escarp]

Niceee lol always want to go there

I coulda been to the state for the first time in june if these dhiejdjdjrjdjndjd canadian immigration office takes to long to process my visa

Its been almost 2 months and counting

[vivid fiber]

Hopefully it goes thru soon 🙏

[steel escarp]

Yeee i hope so

[storm stream]

when you getting your passport

[tight gale]

#canada meetup in SF next year

[storm stream]

hmmm maybe it wasn't a fake job posting

[steel escarp]

Idk lool

[paper ether]

how does one go to the us

after a second internship

what is the roadmap

i am hopefully gonna work at nokia kinaxis or ford this fall, how can I get to the US for next summer?

[analog current]

almost impossible if u don’t go to waterloo

sorry jose

ik people with multiple faangM internships and still didn’t make it to the US

[fickle juniper]

This isn’t true

[fickle juniper]

Apply early, have a parseable resume, leetcode, pray

There’s a lot of luck involved but if that’s ur goal and u work at it, it’s definitely possible from any school

[analog current]

hence why i said almost

op might become billionaire

[fickle juniper]

It’s not “almost impossible” tho

[analog current]

its definitely possible

but statistically speaking

the odds aren’t too high

in this market people are struggling to get interviews at local shops

let alone these ‘merican companies with mfs applying from around the world

what a way to start our day

[fickle juniper]

I think the market makes it tougher

I can't speak to this market because I haven't gone thru it

[analog current]

8:08am and we’re already having neckbeard tech bro arguments

[fickle juniper]

But in general its certainly not almost impossible

[analog current]

ofc

[topaz linden]

It’s harder if you’re international in Canada

But attainable if you’re a citizen

[oblique crater]

this market isn’t gonna last forever, averaged over the past 5 years it’s certainly possible

[analog current]

lol that’s like playing on extra hard mode

ngl if we just lower the quantity of swes

everything would go back to normal

[oblique crater]

yeah if you’re international it really isn’t worth going to the US

that 3-4 month internship salary isn’t gonna do much for you

[analog current]

wouldn’t ur work visa last like a year or sumshit

[oblique crater]

you should prioritize getting a return offer in canada

[topaz linden]

^ this

[analog current]

how do waterloo kids get into these companies

[oblique crater]

yeah sure but when it comes to ft work it’s a pain in the ass and so you’re kinda wasting your efforts

[analog current]

we need to reverse engineer their methods

[analog current]

[oblique crater]

insane coop office with deep connections

[topaz linden]

The waterloo brand name is how

[analog current]

how did they get those connections tho

like

some uni in the MIDDLE OF

WATERLOO

beats u of t and ubc

to having connections

howwwww

[topaz linden]

It goes way back

[oblique crater]

insanely picky with their students and competitive environment produces gold

now the og loo grads are tech managers at these companies

[analog current]

pressure makes diamonds

[tawny raptor]

coop office here is kinda shit

brand name isnt that good either tbh

people just grind

the coop program just forces you to grind

[fickle juniper]

Thing is Waterloo has access to jobs that aren't available to any other school

[tawny raptor]

not many good ones lol

[fickle juniper]

Like some off-season internship at big N are only available for loo co-op

Its a distinct advantage

[tawny raptor]

only bloomberg afaik

some big n are only off season for coop schools but thats not only loo

[fickle juniper]

I'm not sure in the current market but it was lots of big tech last yr

[analog current]

bloomberg to quantshop pipeline is very real

[fickle juniper]

Like Uber, Apple, etc i remember specifically

[tawny raptor]

uber doesnt post anymore

[analog current]

so even that one pipeline is enuf imo

[tawny raptor]

apple is off season for anyone

[analog current]

uber fucked off from the face of the earth

[fickle juniper]

Yeah they don't post anymore

[tawny raptor]

idk i will say ww has way better response rate than external

[fickle juniper]

But in general that has been the case

[analog current]

@tawny raptor also citadel recruits from loo

[tawny raptor]

i applied to some external jobs with 2025 grad date, got ghosted, then applied same position on ww with 2026 grad date and got interviews

[analog current]

[tawny raptor]

they'll send an oa to anyone, just gotta pass it

[analog current]

that’s true

i barely got 50% on their oa the last time i did it

[soft hamlet]

wtf

[analog current]

i got 100% for hrt tho

still rejected

same for a few other quantshops

[soft hamlet]

waterlooworks

[tawny raptor]

isnt hrt just codesignal

[analog current]

that’s why i passed it

[tawny raptor]

codesignal 100% means like nothing

imo

companies just ignore it

let alone quant

[analog current]

some people got interviews tho

[tawny raptor]

i think its just too easy of an assessment to differentiate much

[analog current]

depends

[tawny raptor]

prob resume

[analog current]

sometimes codesignal asks some hard questions

like it’s 100% rng

plus all that speed shit also ruins ur score

[tawny raptor]

my q4 was like an easy array lc medium

[analog current]

💀💀💀

q3 is always a bitch to implement

honestly man

personally, i’m not even gonna try anymore

[tawny raptor]

legit 3 mins lol

[vapid latch]

wtf

[analog current]

💀💀💀💀💀

this guy is cracked

holyshit

no wonder u go to loo

[vapid latch]

loo kids pay with their souls

respect tbh

[analog current]

what do they feed u guys

leetcode soup?

[worldly ridge]

yo @analog current

[analog current]

yahukna stfu

what are u doing in #canada

oh nvm u aren’t yahkuna

[worldly ridge]

i moved from arizona to canada recently

[analog current]

[worldly ridge]

amaerica is scary

[analog current]

wya now

which part of canada

[worldly ridge]

yukon

[vapid latch]

💀

[analog current]

what is it like paying 30 bucks for a 2L pepsi?

mf forgot how expensive everything is up there cuz of transportation cost

[worldly ridge]

its like the iceland of canada

[analog current]

[vapid latch]

1 flight a day in and out

goodness

[fickle juniper]

1 whole flight?

Thats pretty good

Yes

[analog current]

that’s 1 too many flights

[fickle juniper]

Let's strike them with drones

Jkjk

[analog current]

eysk….

[fickle juniper]

Yes?

[oblique crater]

bro if im living in yukon i’m living off the land fuck pepsi

[analog current]

we should drone strike the us instead

jkjk

[oblique crater]

we’re eating seal baby

[analog current]

do u guys have a uni up there or what?

imagine going to uni in yukon

[oblique crater]

nah there’s a middle school though

great brand name

[analog current]

that’s like a whole ass phd up there

[fickle juniper]

There's a Harvard University satellite office there

It's 200% acceptance rate

[analog current]

that middle school is also known for being a feeder school for all ivies

[fickle juniper]

Just noone knows about it

[analog current]

they barely have regular internet

they’re busy stalking people

[oblique crater]

it’s probably not that bad lmao

[analog current]

probably…

[oblique crater]

just not built for city kids

[analog current]

i wouldn’t test my luck there tho

[oblique crater]

nah me neither i would go in the summer though

[analog current]

so many words

i ain’t readin all dat

put it in gpt and gib summary

then ask gpt to do both for ya

the first one seems easier

yo quiet mf

canada be like

[fickle juniper]

🇨🇦

[analog current]

🇨🇦

[worldly ridge]

🇨🇦

ok but does the us have beaver tails though?

check mate

[analog current]

in fact they do

the north east part

they also have those in the north east area

[vapid latch]

ive had friends interview for internships only to get told at the end its $19/hr CAD

[analog current]

[vapid latch]

someone fix this country

[analog current]

id start memeing the interview

for 19 an hour

there are sales jobs paying more

u can literally sell phones for min wage + commission

[vapid latch]

just go work at starbucks or bbt place

😭

[analog current]

and make more

[vapid latch]

yea

[analog current]

tbf companies paying 19 an hour probably don’t have much to teach u

“here, rewrite this old c++03 into c++11”

[worldly ridge]

well if us has beavertails...im not sure if canada is better then us

[worldly ridge]

its for the experience

not a big fan tbh

dunkin donuts and timmies are basicaly the same thing

[fickle juniper]

Canada is amazing

That’s why we’re willing to take 🥜to live here

[worldly ridge]

canada is acc nice if living costs werent high

[analog current]

trick is to live w parents and bare them with the cost of living

[soft hamlet]

us has a few timmies

[soft hamlet]

I have gov friends that are managing SQL queries for a singular database and then 4-5 hours of meetings a day lol

v

[analog current]

[real storm]

realistically are you allowed to do another job if you're doing this?

[soft hamlet]

you have to be in the office like 3-4 days a week

so ig if you can cram another low effort job in the 1-2 days you are off then sure

[real storm]

ah shit, then its probably a side project thing if the RTO is enforced 💀

[soft hamlet]

$20/hr is good if you get paid $80-100 to sit in meetings every day

[real storm]

damn only 80-100 for the day though?

[soft hamlet]

nah, that's like 4-5 hours of meetings, maybe 3 hours of actual SQL querying/PHP garbage

[heavy lava]

Does anyone know of a Canada specific new grad jobs repo?

[analog current]

are retirement funds really worth it if ur young

[worldly ridge]

nah just give em to me

dont u ahe work

[crystal folio]

Even MSFT in Vancouver Canada pays like $25 or $27 phr lol. I feel like $19 aint even garbage for random companies.

Yea lol, thats CAD btw, not USD

SAP even pays $27 CAD which is the same as MSFT

But Intuit gives a juicy $43 CAD which is nice, they areant scummy towards Canadians

I think Scotiabank pays like in the mid $30's range

MSFT overrated tbh

[analog current]

it’s more

ur dead wrong on that my brother

[crystal folio]

Friend started working there 1 months ago

He's getting $27 phr but people who started 4 months ago got $25

Product Manager

Don't PM's make near the same as SWE in tech?

Hmm, if he's getting $27 CAD then yea PM's make a chunk less

[soft hamlet]

what

that makes no sense

[paper ether]

im getting paid 18 in some start up

OMEGALUL

[soft hamlet]

I'm getting 26

[paper ether]

i hate u

[soft hamlet]

[paper ether]

i see u on campus

ur done pal

jk

[soft hamlet]

[paper ether]

still getting great experience

and i like my co-workers

yea whats good @weak gazelle

[soft hamlet]

I'm getting good experience, pairing with the CEO every day

[paper ether]

Pog Pog

[soft hamlet]

just made two PRs today hehehe

[paper ether]

nice brotha

i am working on one of the products rn

its super cool cuz i came in right at the beginning of the product

so i have a lotta impact

[soft hamlet]

ahhh

I am pushing through, went into beta a few months ago

[paper ether]

good stuff

my resume is actually so full already just from what im doing

it is kinda crazy

[soft hamlet]

[paper ether]

3 weeks

[soft hamlet]

my resume was full before the internship

[paper ether]

mine was not.

i had nothing

then started TAing

[soft hamlet]

gonna have 4 jobs after this summer

[paper ether]

and got this

all cs related?

[soft hamlet]

yeah

[paper ether]

are u working at that startup rn?

[soft hamlet]

yeee

[paper ether]

niceee

and ur web dev freelance job

which is awesome

[soft hamlet]

android mobile internship in hs, website dev freelance for last year, this internship, 1 year other freelance until april 2024

[paper ether]

thats really good

[soft hamlet]

also doing leadership, I have like no space on my resume

[paper ether]

im just TA and this internship

ur cracked

[soft hamlet]

I gotta start trimming the least important things

like each of my entries is 3 lines already

[paper ether]

good luck :D

[soft hamlet]

ahhh icic

[paper ether]

yeah mine are too

[soft hamlet]

well you can do a business thing

[paper ether]

wdym

[soft hamlet]

there is a sprott thing where you get an elective credit for helping out a business w their website or whatever for a term

I was debating doing that

[paper ether]

oh no thanks

[soft hamlet]

unpaid tho

which is dumb

but you get free experience

[paper ether]

i would rather just do something myself

bruh im paying to get experinece

cuz im paying for the course

id rather just freelance

im not excited to start school again in Winter '24

like i wanna intern on a full salarty

salary*

OMEGALUL

[soft hamlet]

nah i'm pre sure it's free

[paper ether]

oh okay

[soft hamlet]

but you working unpaid

[paper ether]

but paying full-time tuition

still

[soft hamlet]

I'm starting school after this term, I hate school

true

[paper ether]

like why am i paying 1k to do someone's website

[soft hamlet]

they changed the co-op reqs btw

[paper ether]

2nd year is so fun tho. All the classes are so good

what do u mean they changed the reqs?

[soft hamlet]

rather than COMP 2402 or 2404 they made it COMP 2404 only

[paper ether]

oh what

[soft hamlet]

so first years can't cheese a co-op term anymore

[paper ether]

oh yeah first year summer

u coulcnt

[soft hamlet]

they changed it from open to empty

so you can either do courses or not

no more co-op term or courses option

[paper ether]

i think its cuz of the state of the market

[soft hamlet]

nah they changed it for everyone

across the board

[paper ether]

oh weird

just have connections :)

[soft hamlet]

too many first years got jobs and pestered the co-op office

oh well tho imma just grind out internships

[paper ether]

ur dad should just work at ciena :)

[soft hamlet]

🤷‍♂️

[paper ether]

on god

just do 4

graduate at the same time as everyone else

ur good

[soft hamlet]

my dad works at nokia but I don't wanna use him

[paper ether]

I would

are u dumb

nepotism

[soft hamlet]

I'm not into nepo

[paper ether]

💪

i would so nepo

[soft hamlet]

I've studied literally everything by myself

[paper ether]

you don't earn anything in this life

[soft hamlet]

I don't want nepo I wanna earn things myself

[paper ether]

it's not what u know, it's who u know

like for real

[soft hamlet]

imma make it

[paper ether]

u will ur a smart guy

just use the opportunities u have bro

[soft hamlet]

👍 I actually have a company at my doorstep, they said they don't hire first years but they will give me an offer next year if I need it

[paper ether]

which one :D

[soft hamlet]

dm'ed

I want a bigger company job tho

[soft hamlet]

oh I already did half of them already

they mid

I get the A+ and keep going 🥱

besides discrete

[worldly ridge]

@analog current

[lucid berry]

don't bother @analog current, he's 996ing atm

[soft hamlet]

996 is painful

[fickle juniper]

Based

My respect for u has

[brave fable]

pre sure Msft van pays $40

?

at least for those who have done a few co-ops already

I.e. non-Explore interns

[crystal folio]

This is my friends second internship (first was at no-name)

[paper ether]

my favs were 2401 and 2804 lowkizzy

i interviewed at a company yesterday and today they emailed me and asked if i was in a registered co-op program, and what my mailing address is for a potential offer letter. what does this mean

why did they ask for it before the offer letter

[soft hamlet]

will they actually send you a physical letter

💀

[loud belfry]

2401 with genkin

[soft hamlet]

genkin

[loud belfry]

fucks up the bit shifting then calls it a day

[soft hamlet]

in fall I'll have 2404 2406 2804

[soft hamlet]

I wasn't hallucinating when he did it wrong?

[paper ether]

2401 with connor :)

[paper ether]

they said so they could add it to the potential letter

[soft hamlet]

ah

yeah that's normal

they asked for my info to put on the contract

[real storm]

you tryna ask your homies how they got microsoft

[brave fable]

one way is applying to Nuance prior to this term

they were operating as a Microsoft subsidiary for the past few months, but after August, Nuance is getting absorbed into Microsoft

so the Nuance -> Microsoft pipeline would have been the easiest way since you don’t have to go through as many interviews to get into Microsoft as an intern

[fickle juniper]

Nuance isn’t exactly easy to get tho

Just as random as MS

[normal jetty]

Are they gonna have the same salary after too ?

[brave fable]

yeah, salaries are getting adjusted in August

[normal jetty]

No way

[brave fable]

Nuance employees got their msft offer letters in April with level mapping and salary details

Nah, hiring freeze

Winter interns didn’t get return offers (source: I was a winter intern there 😭)

[normal jetty]

Did fall interns get return ?

[paper ether]

so do u think im getting an offer?

[normal jetty]

One of my friends was a fall intern

[brave fable]

Not that I know of

[normal jetty]

Oof

[vapid latch]

what types of LC do u need to study for td bank intern interview 🤔

[soft hamlet]

yeah

[paper ether]

POG champion

[brave fable]

I know some fall interns who extended their internships into winter, and they still didn’t get return offers

[paper ether]

ill send u an ss of the email in DMs

[soft hamlet]

not as hard as us

[normal jetty]

It’s tough out here

[brave fable]

Microsoft Canada pays terribly too 💀

could have thrown us a bone

[paper ether]

canada is actually surprisingly easy

for co-ops

i applied to like 50 places and got 3 interviews

Kinaxis Ford and Nokia

6% interview rate if u have experience

rip :(

[normal jetty]

I never got interviews from ford and kinaxis

[paper ether]

yeah same

i had 0 experience til this summer

i just put on what im doing rn

[normal jetty]

Which ford one btw , was it the embedded one

[paper ether]

systems

[normal jetty]

Ok

[paper ether]

loo has been getting worse

I talked to my manager

he said that all Loo ppl he interviewed were bad

[normal jetty]

Who were the good ppl

[paper ether]

Carleton uOttawa

we have one loo person also

[normal jetty]

Copium

[paper ether]

we're an ottawa based company

[soft hamlet]

I did a small thing with kinaxis at a networking event and then bailed when they said they only did 8-12 month terms

[normal jetty]

The good Waterloo ppl probably didn’t apply

[paper ether]

yeah thats what i assume

but still if u go to loo, i would assume automatically ur goated

but only 65-70% of loo 1st and 2nd years got a co-op this year

in CS

[soft hamlet]

[paper ether]

like other schools are catching up

[soft hamlet]

[lunar sandal]

?? What year are u

[soft hamlet]

co-op is great

[paper ether]

2nd brother @lunar sandal

yeah real

[soft hamlet]

uh idk

[lunar sandal]

How the duck was it easy

[soft hamlet]

I got internship

[paper ether]

idk i got 3 interviews 🤷 and return offer from mycompany

[lunar sandal]

Ah you had first year exp

[soft hamlet]

regular loo kid is about the same as every other regular non-target school kid, but with a fancier name attached

[paper ether]

nah i meant for fall it was easy, I had no experience until this summer i just started a month ago

[lunar sandal]

fall 23?

[soft hamlet]

yeah, it's all about getting the top co-ops and being top of class I guess

[paper ether]

yeah @lunar sandal

[lunar sandal]

Wait there’s 50 fall postings already ????

WHERE

[paper ether]

bruh theres so many

[soft hamlet]

I see some loo people with less/worse experience than some Carleton first and second years

[lunar sandal]

WHEEEREEEE

[paper ether]

there was 100+ on the job board at carleton

linkedin

etc

[lunar sandal]

our job board fucking sucks

[paper ether]

where do u go

tbf 2/3 of my interviews were external

[soft hamlet]

I have 1 YoE freelance, will be done a 4 month internship, have a 2 month from HS, 1 year of random unpaid testing for funsies

ezezezez

[paper ether]

yeah waterloo is getting worse

[soft hamlet]

I did all external, 8 apps 3 interviews 1 offer summer 23

[paper ether]

summer 23?

[paper ether]

this is a crazy rate

[soft hamlet]

[paper ether]

where do u work rn

[paper ether]

tbf u are a networking genius

[soft hamlet]

I got interviews at Cisco, startup and RBC

[paper ether]

no i mean company

[paper ether]

rbc is so rng

yeah fair

yeah on god

[lunar sandal]

were these postings all toronto?

[soft hamlet]

ibm, mse, etc I got rejected obv

[lunar sandal]

/ ontario

or overall canada

[paper ether]

ottawa and toronto

[soft hamlet]

rbc seemed willing to take me until I specified I could only work in mtl

[lunar sandal]

bro i see nothing for toronto

like maybe 10 jobs

[paper ether]

linked in brother

[soft hamlet]

not moving to toronto for 25/hr

[lunar sandal]

idk where ur getting 50 from

[soft hamlet]

yeah I'm working startup as well

[paper ether]

yeah why

[soft hamlet]

because I'd literally be in the red working

[paper ether]

u are so cringe for that ryan

[soft hamlet]

[paper ether]

ohh

rent and stuff

[soft hamlet]

I have no family there

rent would decimate all my income

• food

[paper ether]

in toronto?

[soft hamlet]

yeah

it was like ~25/hr

[paper ether]

bruh ud be fine

[normal jetty]

U need to make sacrifices

[paper ether]

like sublet a room

probably 1k a month

and food 500 MAX

1.5k

[soft hamlet]

also parents would probably not let me because I am IrReSpOnSiBlE

oh well tho my parents softened up in the past year

am allowed to move out now

something about having overprotective parents or something

[normal jetty]

Companies only hire interns for mtl if u know French already cuz of the new law