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Csis engineering is probably smaller though
And maybe they would have eng in toronto or van also then, but not yellowknife
Idk they seem to be hiring a lot, I get sm ads on linkedin
Congrats on the offer hope you have a great internship!
Would you mind saying what your timeline was (when did you do first and final in and when did you get the offer), just curious
How are my jobless friends doing
Hey - does anyone know of a place to stay in Montreal for the summer?
Oh ok thanks. The reason Im asking is that I had my phone int with them on the 30th of september and it was literally one of the best interviews Ive ever done and was told by the recruiter I should hear back about next steps soon, then got rejected 2 weeks later and Im still salty about it LOL
I wasn't sure if they ran out of spots by then since they said offers will start to roll out around mid october to early nov
same thing happened with me with the only interview i got
when does your employer ask for SIN #
some people told me at the time you sign your offer letter
but someone else said they haven't asked for his yet and he signed (they asked for his for bg check)
same lol, i had my interview late sept but im pretty sure they filled up their seats for final interview by then
it'll vary a bit, but, certainly before your first payroll (unless you're an independent contractor/self-employed)
some places are a lot more organized at onboarding employees than others
No advice other than applying. Reaching out to hiring managers on LinkedIn is also useful. It helps if you're a Canadian citizen as well
i actually don't know what to do at this point
yes i still have a bit in savings enough for a few more months
but i think it's time to start thinking about plan b
one more
one more company that tags their posting as "entry level" only to have 5yoe reqs
im gonna lose it
Time to start gambling my tfsa savings
definitely get at least a part-time job to pay the bills while job hunting
Have you considered tutoring
I can try to refer you if you'd be ready to commit
I have personally started making ok money from tutoring in grade 11, so I'm sure anyone in CS can do it if they want
could u refer me
I'll DM
could u share more about this
do u tutor at schools?
yea sure, this was my personal experience: https://michaelsheinman.medium.com/how-i-nailed-a-software-development-job-in-grade-12-98e76e0459c5?sk=4dfccdc0f39f568dff0bb63b021b3120
The post may come off as a bit arrogant it was my first time writing but yea I don't wanna re-write
tldr I just made a Kijiji ad and tutored clients privately and then I had 3 companies contact me, I worked with them and I still have their contacts
When I left they all asked me to send people their way if I know anyone... I have yet to find a single person who is seriously interested in tutoring, I don't know why 🤣
Some people I talked to "were interested", I hooked them up, they got an interview, then they didn't show up and decided they are not interested
if you sent a follow up email a week ago and received no reply, would you send another????
uh yes
Anyone interviewed with morgan stanley for a python developer position?
What do they ask in their technical interview? Is it just leetcode questions? Or other things too? My first interview with them was really weird with random syntax questions
llms still hallucinate a lot
and kids arent born out of the womb as prompt engineers
tutoring still lucrative
goo goo gaa gaa
gpt-6: Okay I see where you're struggling
its ok i see my own point
i am an LLM
Thanks, let me know if you have any questions.
clearly chat gpt can understand the infant's asking what 1+1 is
From my personal experience, 90% of my tutoring was kids. And while parents want kids to learn how to code, another huge factor is the interaction with other kids and the teacher to guide them. So I don't think LLM can replace that yet for the average kid
Yo
So based on that I'd say tutoring is not in decline yet, although I am a bit out of touch on how the companies are doing rn
A lot of what I taught was actually Scratch programming
And the point of that is kids don't wanna read instructions, they wanna see how to do something quickly and then do it
Yeah we don’t do much of that in this line of work
hahaha
@torn roost You were tutoring kids how to code?
Maybe that should be my sidehustle....
yea
There was lots of interest
Yea why not 🙂
Of course it depends on what point you are at with you are career; I stopped tutoring 2 few years ago since I found that while it's a decent money, I made more from TAing and tutoring didn't advance me much since the level is pretty basic. I'm now trying Medium and online content instead
Ahh did you tutor in person like a math tutor, etc and help kids do their hw? thats realy cool
oo like creating those udemy courses?
why does this sound mildly condescending
Nahh im genuinely curious becaue I might do it whenever I have alot of free time 
Your also talkign to a Senior Camp Counsellor so I have expertise 
would they eat me up
i heard rich ppl eat unemployed ppl
to maintain their wealth
Tutoring uni students is also pretty lucrative. My sibling was charging $50/hr to teach a 2nd year coding course. It was doubly useful to keep their OOP + Algo knowledge fresh
Someone reached out and I did tutor math like once, but 99.9% was CS.
Yea that may be one of the things I'll do
Medium actually pays you for writing though
I didn't make much yet but it's slowly growing and I like it
That's dopee, thanks for sharing 
imagine making 6fig and earning passive income from medium
can't relate 😭
Do you have a penthouse in harborfront like @weak gazelle though?
i live in his basement 😭
rent free
awh that is so nice of him
was expecting you to pay 2.5k on monthly rent
ikr
Genuinely how much is rent in Calgary?
im paying 450 👀
me lucky
Is that the going rate? Or lucky
i have no idea i have been paying that for like 2 years or so
my friends are paying around that as well
450 - 600 range
Ohh cool cool
If I were to spend some time in Calgary in July, do u think a month is too long?
Will be camping most likely for a week
ye
u n shri living the dream
Shri is in Calgary too?
no he has a condo in harborfront
like he owns it
calgary is not bad loool
just cold in the winter
thats all
some people think its boring
i think its whatever
I love Calgary
(In the summer)
U are in nature by default
The city is kinda dead tho
It’s got a weirdly low ratio of activity/city development if that makes sense
I would love it if more tech and ppl moved to Calgary, I could see myself living there permanently
Unlike most other places in Canada that’s not Vancouver
its not like im gonna go out often anyawy
U will take me clubbing when I am there yes?
||jk too old for that shi||
which club 👀
never go club before 
Is Calgary one of the best cities to live in, why more tech ppl don't go there
There’s a what? 🤨
Is there a github repo for internships for fall?
Competitive programming club
Theres even a cp course in ucalgary as well
yeah but that abbrevation is unfortunate, to say the least
Low cost of living but low average tech salary
i got a linked in message from someone at the ttc asking to call in 2 hours?? is this a scam?
💀 discord mod 101 course?
wdym neo pays like 70k including stock now
thats huge

i mean a call doesn’t hurt
Including stock
Thats worth millions
Too much kkona in Calgary. Winter lasts 8 months. Air so dry u will got nose bleeds. Water is hard. Salaries low. Housing there hasn't increased in the same way as other major cdn cities.
Idk their economy is too tied to oil
But it is close to the mountains, if u like 2 hike
anyone know how much FAANG/top companies pay in toronto or vancouver? for L3 or L4 levels? has it gone down in 2023 from levels?
is this real??
like base seems fine if its USD -> CAD but yearly stock is crazy
and the 286k base
although don't they let you choose your stock/cash split?
they're either the same or has gone up
the number of such offers are down tho
yeah the 286k base seems insane
Real but bolt stock is worthless
I'm l3 Fang. 220k toronto
How do we get to where you are
LC 6 months and get lucky enough for an interview.
the housing point is a plus tbqh 
If ur a renter yea
G
Waterloo or Toronto?
Or if you're someone whose wage hasn't kept up with home prices
Aka most Canadian 
defo waterloo i think, the office in toronto specializes in ads
that's sickkkk... where did you work before?
bout to go crazy on the codeforces
Damn. Only Jesus can help u then
cb return offer ends up being ~190k
This is really good for van I think. I want to work in BC
Unofficially yea
Calgary has the highest personal income per capita in Canada
Probably doesn’t affect software jobs though
ict3 is L4 equivalent right?
It’s like between L3/L4
Overlaps with both
has any of you got an OA/interview from workday
i swear they dont even look at my apps and autoreject them
lmao
regardless of when i was looking for internship or (now) ft
oh congrats to your friend
plsplspls
workday 😩
just once chance
Whats his tip for clearing their bar
depends on your financial goals - are you trying to save up for a mortgage, ur hobbies, ur lifestyle, do you want to max out tax advatnaged accoounts to meet retiremeng goals, etc
only you can answer that 
I got an OA for a 4 month position even without prior internships for a swe position. it wasn't automated because I got rejected for 2 other positions (I believe they were ML)
I never did it though
They exist for sure
because I was pretty close to getting the internship I have now (at a startup)
gl 🫡
for this summer??
what applications are even open rn 😭
that's what im saying
i started looking for fall lmxsmsmks
v dry, v little w the "new grad" or "junior" tag
gl holy
which company 👀
Jsyk graphql isnt an actual db, its a type of API like REST
you can use it to interact with a db
In case they ask you about it
oh yeah beyond, could you pm the company to me too?
I have yet to build a rest API 😩
I’m soph too
will be working with them in my internship but haven't made one yet 😔
But I’m unemployed 🙂
did you have co op?
sophomore group?? 😳
breaking societal norms
same here ;-;
had to find my job outside of it
unlucky damn
actual garbo
got rejected by the city of calgary 
who wants to move to calgary anyways
I.... already live here 
Ops nvm 
like what? Neo? 
Hi All
bye
if I'm in Canada and applying to a role in the US and i am not a US citizen, do I say 'no' to being authorized to work in the US?
Yup
Thanks
carpenting
trades like crazy
Anyone interview with hootsuite?
You have one lined up?
its 16
classic out of touch billionaire makign fun of people whoa re financily struggling
Yes
okay I was just wondering. I applied for some software dev co-op and got denied
Oh
Yeah it’s kinda weird cos i have my interview on may 3rd
Which i feel is super late
for a co-op too?
Yup
check dm
I just answer No/Yes... Even tho it's not really "sponsorship" you just need an offer letter at the airport
Yo
Can you teach me to get gf
stop u have a gf friend
what is the avg new grad TC for mid size companies here in Vancouver?
shoppers equivalent to my part-time RA job frfr
No to work authorization and yes to sponsorship? Has that actually worked out for you?
That's standard from most Canadians I've asked. How else would you answer...
I have an interview with US company wish me luck 
Not sure if serious but if yes, what's stopping you from getting one?
I mean that's how I've answered but just had no luck applying when answering like that - I usually just get sponsor rejected or something
Guess I just got to keep doing it and maybe a company might bite
Yeah nothing you can do... Some companies don't even bother with sponsorship... And if a company has a Canadian office you'll be insta rejected from the American job post (eg. Cisco Amazon)
it makes me wonder how people get jobs in the US in the first place
I've heard of people who worked at banks here but somehow end up at Amazon in the US or something like that
Faang used to sponsor people to the state before covid
They still do tho lol
This is def false for zon
It's true for Canadian ng
Not at all
I mean amazon even sponsors tons of canadian interns to work in the states
Never mind full time
You can easily check on linkedin
I’ve seen dozens
Idk about Amazon but I know other FAANGs sponsored Canadian new grads
Yeah I can see that... other faangs aren't as well established in Canada as zon
whereas zon may wanna fill Canadian spots
at least that was the deal during covid boom
Yea I had an Amazon recruiter saying they don't like to bring Canadians to the US. But idk how strict that is
they definitely still do, but I think what you said applies to Amazon
I think around covid is when they stopped hiring Canadian intern/new grads for US
in fact for certain cases like Google you can choose to work in the US as a new grad even if you were in Canada as an intern
they don't anymore (tho maybe there are exceptions?)
I know interns there now
Ohh rly
there was definitely a period when they auto rejected Canadians for US internship positions
If they don't sponsor then they don't sponsor, you need a J1 visa to intern in the US, what are you gonna do lie then when you get the offer tell them so that they can blacklist you?
Theres no way around it
This isnt true all my friends who applied to both US and Canada and got amazon offers were insta rejected for the US posting they no longer sponsor canadians to intern
The people youre talking about are probably dual citizens
No as someone who goes to loo my friends interning there in the summer also got rejected for the US role but got interviews for the canadian role
They stopped sponsoring canadians to intern since 2022, for full time its a different story cause the TN visa is much easier to get than the J1
nah theres are people who get sponsored too, that are not dual citizens
I could be wrong Im just speaking anecdotally from the tens of people I talked to who are interning there this summer
Sounds like maybe zon has started hiring Canadians for US positions again
That’s good news
Don't think its a skill issue when they're getting rejected within an hour of applying but Ill take the word of my friends interning there this summer based on what their recruiters told them than randoms on this server
There’s a couple students from loo that ik at Amazon us (non dual), but it’s only off season so winter and fall but I also know last summer some ppl that went to us from Canada but very few
im new grad got job in usa
just work for big company with money and their own lawyer then they sponsor but read job description and ask HR in the call so u dont waste ur time
it's possible just not all companies ig
it's a lot of luck
Yeah same. It’s effort + luck mostly
I recently did a job search exclusively in the US and had decent luck with big and small companies okay with sponsorship. Most recruiters didn't think a TN was an issue.
I think my strat going forward is going to be portraying myself as very open and immediately clarifying my situation in the recruiter call
TN is rly different from h1b sponsorship
it's much easier
For intern or NG?
NG
yeah you get it at the airport... I'm tempted to answer no/no because of that
but some companies have lawyers that sort you out with the documentation for the TN visa
I've only heard of Tesla getting a TN for interns. Idk how since a TN requires a degree
Intern is different? J-1 visa or something?
Working in the United States (U.S.)? You will need a work permit to be legally allowed to work for your co-op work term. There are various types of work permits. The University of Waterloo provides students support for the J-1 visa, which includes an intern category that applies for students on a co-op work term.
Yea
If youre applying for ng then yes you answer no/no because you don't have work status but you also dont need sponsorship
tbh from now on I'm just gonna answer no/no what's the worst that can happen?
idt it's possible to get a TN without the degree conferred
I think it's some other visa, or maybe for masters students
Are there any good things that can be done in Canada but can only be processed during residency/employment in the United States?
As a Canadian international student, I will soon be interning in the United States for several months and will receive a Social Security Number (SSN). I am considering taking advantage of this opportunity to apply for some exclusive US-only products that I can continue to use even after returning to Canada.
For example, the Apple Card credit card cannot be obtained in Canada, but it can be used in Canada without foreign transaction fees. As a no-annual-fee credit card, it offers better benefits than most local credit cards in Canada.
I'm wondering if anyone has any other recommendations to share
hahahahha
Nah most things can be done here too... even the Apple card it's not event that crazy of a card
I have heard that there are more benefits for the credit card in US than CA, lol
like what?
theres some crazy rewards in canaada too
I know cuz I'm always cancelling and reapplying for credit cards 
not if you open another 😉
I keep my oldest card with the largest credit limit I'm never cancelling that
that has the most imp[act on score

im an aeroplan fiend lmao
If its for an internship you get blacklisted for wasting the recruiters time
nah ng
Oh ok yea for ng always do no/no
have you had luck in the US @formal galleon
Not yet but Im not ng still interning
lucky you... not graduating into a recession
Wait y? Even if ur only canadian?
Doesnt really matter lol recession is staying till atleast 2025 and Ill be graduating around then
graduating into a bull run... must be nice
Lol it wont be a bull run itll still be the recession
I'm gonna try and report back
some companies consider TN sponsorship some don't
most say no/yes
We'll see the worst of it next year I think and itll slowly start getting better in 2025
Well for ng you aren't authorized to work in the US so you put no but you also dont need sponsorship since a TN visa doesnt require a company to sponsor you so you put no to that as well
sometimes it requires some work from the employer, like making sure your offer letter has specific lingo
but that's hardly "sponsorship"
I think it's because of them sponsoring under a different category which doesn't require a bachelors degree
TN Visas
for a TN visa, you need to have a degree on hand?
what if I completed all my credits but don't have my degree?
Yes
That’s not enough
U gotta be careful to time ur graduation correctly
Cuz if ur at ubc and u graduate in Dec for example
U won’t get ur degree conferred until May
yeah it's the same here
fucking sucks
odds are I'll get my degree a year after my credits are completed
Wow a full year?
yeah
that’s a big delay

yeah, it's pretty bad
so I guess I'll get a job here and then look for US in the meantime
just no US new grad
Interesting, what school do u go to?
Cuz at ubc there are two degree conferral dates
oh it's just a special case for me
thanks for the info 
Congrats 🔥🙌💓👏
that's awesome, congrats!
congrats! where is it?
@lucid berry u can email ur school n see if dey can expedite it if u have an offer in hand
this is what my school person said, u should email em 🙂
anyone knows what is the avg new grad TC for mid size companies here in Vancouver?
^ same q, having TN issues, mind if I dm?
ty! much appreciated!
https://forums.immigration.com/threads/feeling-stressed-tn-1-denied-applying-as-engineer-with-b-sc-now.344462/#post-2555774 read what this guy did
Hey,
I'm a Canadian Software Engineer that is looking to relocate to the US to work as a Software Engineer. I have a Bachelors of Science, with a Specialization in Computer Science.
I went to apply for my TN-1 visa yesterday as a Computer Systems Analyst, got denied because I stated that my...
check his "update" comment
Not sure if im late but I got an offer for this coming spring
My offer was 45/hr + sign on bonus
fully remote
when I interned in Calgary they paid me 26 
Was this new grad or intern?
SWE intern
sign on for intern???
Bruh the cisco range is too big
damn
Ngl
Yeah thats common
Ic
my recruiter did say the offer was still negotiable after the offer was sent out on a call
Bruh
I didn't really see a point to negotiating tho
My recruiter said non negotiable from the beginning
Its so random
If u get picked by the wrong team its gg
yeah I didn't really expect the 45/hr + sign on either, I was honestly expecting a flat 32/hr
My first year friend got 50
He had prior exp tho
But still
I think its all team dependent
is cisco a stepping stone idk where to go after 💀
like the pay is good ig but idk if I can stepping stone cisco
I meant at cisco lmao
In canada idk
There is google
maybe amazon?
I'm pretty sure it's gonna be hard to get much higher than like 60/hr in canada
gotta cali 😒
U mean new grad?
Idk if anybody in canada pays that much for interns lol
O i c
Gotta do amazon next
congrats :0 was cisco's process hard?
Its chill
Honestly not at all
Getting the interview is hard
OA was 3 LC's pretty easy
Idt it matters much
my school makes it really easy to get interviews so that probably helped alot
co op school
ye
I'm currently a 2nd year softe so I tried cisco's OA because I was bored. I have no LC experience so I gave it a shot but I got an easy, medium, and hard question lmaooo
I think mine was the same
they didn't feel hard compared to alot of mediums
the easy was pretty easy to do
but I had zero data structures & algos experience at the time too so the hard whooped me
Sent u a friend req
👌
It's weird though
I did the interview before I did their OA
so I got the offer before I even did OA
whaaaaat?
and my recruiter kinda just told me to do it before I could get the contract and that it wouldn't affect the offer at all
so I did it
💀
man skipped crawling and went straight to flying :-
hardest waterloo internship process
And idt oa matters
lmao yeh looworks kinda cheat code
Its getting worse
this term was brutal i've heard
unemployment rate is rlly high in waterloo programs
seems like networking's especially key for cisco
even in the upper years?
yeah, for 3rd year I think its still hovering around 50%
super brutal
would I get instantly rejected if I reapplied, since I expect the OA score to stay there for a bit?
I think its higher
yeah
when I applied before, I had zero internship experiences so I was guaranteed an L
thinking of trying after this summer since I can add an internship and part-time RA job
oh wow, is keeping standards high a possible factor?
uhh, I believe cisco saves your OA under your profile and uses it for reference in future applications
Its the market
💀 january me had no idea the damage he was causing
oh fuck
I think if you got the exp and skill you shouldn't rlly have an issue with still getting good internships, its just alot of people were taking what they could get since the job recessions seems to be getting rlly bad
I know for us 2nd years at the UofA only me and 4-7 others in all of computer engg (including software) got internships this term. but for 3rd years, the employment rate is pretty high
and at loo you don't really wanna be unemployed for a co op term
understandable
hopefully the cisco gods look in my direction the next time I apply 🙏
I pray for you 🙏
loo is god tier, no reason to pay US tuition
of course 😂
if you get into loo I think you'll be able to get into any US company
who up just thinking
me
life crazy fr
start of the new week and gotta grind again smh
living in the worst timeline rn
Where your recruiter initials MS? Also is the opportunity located in Ottawa or is it remote?
Real
this mr robot gif aint even working
bruh
The timing of recession is just perfect 😵💫
HQ in ottawa but my location is in toronto
and its fully remote
holy hell
AHAHAHAHA
what now
they havent gotten back to me after that random 9am call
A dude called me again
Last week
Said there’s a Python opportunity at celestica it pays good (he shared his screen and was honest about it, wow what a change right) he then tells me do the test I do it I get 95% on it. Now he tells me he sent my profile and last Friday he tells me the position is facing money issues and it might be cancelled? Or wtv the reason
Back to square one
LMAO
I love how this channel randomly serves as US opportunities/immigration advice
Brain drain too real
Fall 2023 in Canada plis
scotiabank
holy shit
I graduated with a job (Albiet at a much lesser lvl than I had expected given my experience) and what I can say is at this moment right now, I have no idea what the future of my career in software will look like LOL (I.e dont know if I’ll thrive or just survive)
Hopefully things go back to something resembling normalcy (or at least how we interpreted normalcy) sometime sooner than later
Oh ok thanks, were your recruiter initials MS? The reason Im asking was I also had the opportunity to interview but already accepted another role so I declined but now that you mentioned the pay I kinda regret it LOL
Just curious whats the team that you're going to be on
All my homies hate actalent
are all hopes lost if u havent found an internship for this summer lol
still kicking myself for not getting a return offer
From where
got my offer rescinded at a startup 2 weeks before starting
uhhhh
💀
ion think I can find anything else rn
swag like OHIO
MS is the main recruiter for all of Ottawa I believe
Main university recruiter
anyone in here ever done a devskiller test before?
Are any big apps closed for fall yet or do I still have some time left
fall hiring began alr?
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i dont understand how canadians can be not rich, cad is literally monopoly money
just pass go lmao
didnt they get acquired by microsoft
are TN folks from Canada exempt from US Social Security taxes and medicare?
I've been told that this is wishful thinking
which canadian universities offer good co-ops for masters/PGDM programs in computer science/data anlysts?
or good locations , any suggetions?
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Whats the return to office trend looking like?
Are we gonna be able to work remote for new grad jobs?
Prob not
A lot of companies have RTO
Also new grad jobs themselves are rare...
Hopefully the market improves for 24 grads...
Depends on the company
What companies are still remote
I can get a pretty good return offer where im at rn but I’d have to move cuz itll be in office
Id take a pay cut to work remote
Hubspot, Shopify in Canada
Both aren't hiring atm afaik...
Sadge
when do Winter internships open
By winter do u mean Jan?
just had my monthly check up from my parents whomst couch i been crashing on
pls give job
i cant take the failure talks anymore
Damn that’s rough, sorry to hear that 
gotta get away from the couch my boy
thanks i will reach
anyone know when banks will post new grad roles?
Man i feel this
Maybe it's time for me to pick up a religion
yeah parents and everybody else thats non tech thinks im slacking off and dont know why i dont have a job yet
kinda makes me think im gaslighting myself when i say oh yeah nobody is even sending next steps
i think there might be more floatier jobs out there
Canada land
I feel you tbh…
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just gotta keep at it, same boat as you 😔
when do fall listings peak
man this is so shit
Am I dumb for letting US border low TN success rate heavily make me consider taking random school cs over Waterloo math? I hear people having trouble getting swe with a cs degree and math is further from swe than cs
dont do math if you want cs
I have a friend who's major is math at loo and is doing co-ops albeit at smaller companies
you take some cs courses alongside it and play it strategically
tbh loo gives you access to a pretty solid network, and when it comes to getting a job especially in turbulent job markets, connections can make the difference, just my opinion tho
my teammate for HTN graduated from uw math
last I checked he got a ng 100k job
smth to do with cs / swe
but that was sept 2022
What team if u don’t mind?
better than no jop
no idea but a lot of java development
What's pay?
its a fwsep job so 19-25
full remote from home tho so its decent
That's pretty decent for a coop
Not fantastic but pretty normal
yea the TN thing might acc fuck things up
but it fucks up even for cs
its rng most of the time
there are alot of math students that go us after grad
can companies get you approved before you reach the border
I only ask cause I've heard of it happening for others
Google got mixed results xd
yea honestly idk fs
I did a quick Google search and Mathematicians/Staticians are their own fields for the TN. So they might actually have it easier than CS which don't have any clear field.
But you should still ask yourself if a math degree will lead to a CS job if that's what your set on
this is assuming you go for that job
I think this guy wants to go to uw math and get a swe job
which isn’t a bad idea but when you consider the TN situation it becomes dicey
I imagine there's enough of an overlap between maths and SWE where the company can write your letter in a way to emphasize the math portion.
the boring answer would be to just work in Canada for peanuts 
There's plenty of Front End Engineers working on a TN when that sort of work doesn't really line up with what an engineer is supposed to do
you would think so but people with cs degrees that get swe jobs sometimes get flack from border agents about how they qualify for an engineering job without an engineering degree
But this is my own guessing. It's probably best to ask Math alumni what their experience is with the TN
the main requirement for a TN is a bachelors degree
for our uni we just BSc's and shit, no indication of program on the degree after grad
I think the flack is usually because they are trying to say they are qualified for an engineering role while they're not an engineer. This is harder to explain than obviously being a mathematician and trying to convince the border agent that you will be applying your degree in your SWE job. (Which you will in at least some capacity)
US incompetence
why is Math and CS not in the same category of competence
They evaluate your school and the program and see if it fits with the occupation you're applying for
yeah most swe jobs are taken by cs majors in the US
My company had a third party company authenticate my degree and write up a report on what I learnt in it
lMFAO
that sounds like aids
oh
wait the company wrote the report?
dont they have to get ur transcripts n shi
No they contracted some other company to do it for them
They want that as well
I guess it's useful for random universities the border agents haven't ever heard of before to ensure you didn't just attend an online degree mill or something
do they know uoft ubc waterloo
hey you never know might get a green card out of it
love story at the amazon warehouse type beat
Probably. Most people go through the same few border check points so they see most unis. They recognized my B tier uni
come here bb girl let me buy you a prime subscription
you can say im a baller I have $200 of EC2 credits
feel like most of big tech is just nerds who got no action living out their lost youth years with the money they dont know what to do with
my amazon rizz goes hard
They got that Amazon jungle animal in them
you nailed it
i know
it’s a wholesome redemption arc in actuality
That's what you think till you join and meet people who are smart, rich, good looking, and had a social life
obviously those ppl exist, but the nature of the field tends to massively attract people falling in the former category
Eh I thought people were pretty normal. You get the stereotypical nerds and the "chads" and everything in between
Unless my perception of what's normal has been skewed
u worked in a big N?
Briefly
Apply in 2022 

Yea idk I'm not cracked. Do internships, write down your accomplishments and keep going back and polishing your resume, and leetcode
i think by the time you get through university you’re relatively well adjusted
a ton of interview loops for early careers is essentially just a vibe check and a small focus on determining your competence
Yall ever get called a chad in real life
Yea a lot of the kids who bragged about being coding wizards before even starting uni were humbled
so u can never snuff it out
No. Probably because I'm not one 😅
But wtf even is a chad
Idk if people actually use that word irl
Naw definitely have heard it irl
I mean if you really want an answer, just look up the memes or what a jock is maybe. But being a Chad is whatever makes you confident in yourself 
Yeah
I get called a chad a lot by ladies
I'm ladies 
Same ||but only ironically 💀||
I just got free dev tickets
to the conference
collision?
thanks whoever told me about it I cant remember who it was 🙏
Your welcome friend
my high school school had free education use of AWS services
We used EC2 in remote boxes to code from anywhere and played around with lambdas
when do new grad positions open up?
For Canada, I'd say September is when stuff starts in full
A few places will open in July - Aug
But not many
oki
ill keep an eye out
any good companies that were hiring this year?

u at mozilla?
rust god?
Not many...
yoooo, thats pretty sick even though im shit at both

Maybe it'll improve for this szn
i think my internship will not give return offers so i have to look elsewhere
Anyone want epoxy flooring done for their garage?
U get cscareers.dev discount
No problem, send me your address
You are cool brother
I agree, shit can be tough at times
and u can say the offer was jsut convenient timing lol
just chill bro ur employed in this market
this is trivial
y do u care
u live for him or urself
I live for Allah ☝️
why did i get rejected by lockheed already
im ready to make missiles
they were hiring in canada but wtf ?
how can they even tell ??????????
had to delete messages i don’t want them coming after me
i thought you got nerfed already
thank you
poggies
no ng 
how?
🙏
fuck loblaws
weekend availability 
I mean
it was bound to happen
2 types of people above me
Hello

they passed their profit goals and still laid off 
hey friend 👋
Woah
have you guys started looking at non-cs positions
i have somewhat (casually)
should i just interview with fast enterprises?
its for implementation consultant
according to reddit and glassdoor, its a dead end job that pays really well
95-105 sumn like that
sign on and relo too
theres a detailed workup of what the job does to people
people who wanna get into dev market are blocked after taking this job because they get no transferable skills
they sometimes program in vb
or some other shit
i dont think right now is a really good time to be picky about jobs hahaha
if you have the option go for it man
for longevity
it doesnt sound reassuring
some people made a detailed workup on how they had to do personal projects on the side to be able to leave the consultant side
i see i see
Howd you get them for free?
How long did it take to get the free ticket after you applied?
week maybe 2
im a hser
idk how i got it
LMAO
Idt it matters as long as u have a non empty GitHub I guess ?
Ng?
No idea
I would just always interview for everything, you can always decide later with offer in-hand.
being unemployed has no transferable skills
Anyone interning at drw this summer?
When does G hire for Fall?
Goddamn
Brutal but you right
hello my canadian brethrens
has anyone had any success applying in the US and not from waterloo xD

holy hell
There only job openings for 5+ years of experience, cant find much openings for new grad software engineer
no 😂
I mean I'm a first year so I didn't apply but 😭
only MS explore
and I got ghosted
ik ppl have
Yea first time was during the pandemic highs. Second time was after the bust
Damn how many internships did you complete at the time
This was for new grad. I had 2 different coops. One at a local company and one at the Canadian branch of a large US company
For new grad, yes
Lol just apply and find out
Lots of ppl
That's actually a really great find. Thanks for sharing it. I applied (because, why not?). I've never attended that conference before.
yeah np someone else did tho
i forgot who
thanks to them too
gm kanada it’s a beautiful day
Sleep?
monopoly money
my recruiter for full time wants my SSN for the background check even though I don’t have one yet…I’ve been telling them that I’m Canadian throughout the process and they’ve been ok with it
she told me to apply for one, but can I do that without getting a TN visa? super confused rn
not sure about TN, but you'd have to go to the U.S. to get one (embassies and consulates don't give them AFAIK)
wouldn’t I need to have work authorization (ie. a TN visa) before applying for an SSN in the US though?
that’s what the info online says. I got my job offer though
u gotta get ur TN first, then u can apply for ssn
Yeah, makes sense. They’re pretty adamant on starting the background check prior to my start date though, which is immediately a week following my graduation. So I’ll be getting my diploma and TN visa really close to my start date
which company is running the background check? checkr?
for a past internship, checkr was asking me for ssn but then i requested an international background check which didnt ask for ssn
They can start your background check using your SIN. Why are they asking specifically for SSN?
it’s an American company, idk
the recruiter must be confused or something, maybe she thinks SSNs can be obtained without a visa
I told them about Cisive international background checks, so we’ll see what happens. Otherwise I’m fucked
nah don’t say that
get TN visa, go to the states and get your SSN and then do the background check and start
ahh i guess you need the offer of employment first
I did this recently for 2 companies in the states. Both did the background check simultaneously to the TN application
They didn't ask for a SSN. If I remember correctly HireRight has a box for selecting that you don't have one
they gave me my offer letter, and I signed it
then you gotta get to the US asap
my convocation is on June 6th tho
and my start date is supposed to be June 12th
don’t I need my physical degree as a part of the TN process?
idk tbh
you probably have to push this back
yeah may have to, unless they can arrange for an international background check
fingers crossed
btw earliest u can enter the US for TN visa is 10 days before your start date
another thing you could do is order an “early diploma” from your school so they can ship you the diploma asap, u just gotta provide them proof of your start date
^^ ask for an early diploma, my school does that too
my friend was in ur exact shoes stevey and all he had to do was ask the skewl
I asked UofT, and they said they can’t give out diplomas before convocation. All they can do is give a letter confirming my eligibility to graduate, which I think should be enough for pre-approval
I was told this wasn't enough but you never know. 6 days isn't enough for premium processing so you'll need to take your degree and head to the border with it to get the TN
You do
Read the "update" from this post: https://forums.immigration.com/threads/feeling-stressed-tn-1-denied-applying-as-engineer-with-b-sc-now.344462/#post-2555774
Hey,
I'm a Canadian Software Engineer that is looking to relocate to the US to work as a Software Engineer. I have a Bachelors of Science, with a Specialization in Computer Science.
I went to apply for my TN-1 visa yesterday as a Computer Systems Analyst, got denied because I stated that my...
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IME, many recruiters copy-paste job postings from others. The 3-4 companies I heard back from all required experience despite the fact that I don't even have a CS degree, let alone paid experience. (One company got back to me even though the description mentioned 4+ years of Flutter experience). So just apply 🙂

hello
Just saw this in personal finance canada

Why is housing also increasing in principle more than peak covid times with historicaly low rates 
Why did chicken drumsticks get cheaper 
80% over 10 years is not
i think it got well over most people’s budgets 5 years ago and that’s why it hasn’t gone up that much
I get 16 months of internship, close enough???

Thing is so many places don’t consider internship experience in it
would freelance experience count 
It’s stupid imo, interns often are much more motivated and do more than even fulltimes
Yeah it would
Hey all, was wondering if anyone could help with information about J1 visas. I’m currently at Roblox for the summer and them have an upcoming 12 month with uber after, both in states. However, uber told me bc of j1 something visa something, they cant have me anymore. So its either roblox or uber for them
I think the rule they’re referring to is the 2 year rule saying i have to go back to country for 2 years after intern ends
But i know some people get internships every summer so wondering if theres a way for me to go around this with my visas
Both visas are handled by cultural vistas
did anyone do the wealthsimple swe intern interview process? how was it? I heard the 45 min technical isn't leetcode-y so I was curious what resources to study for it
did you hear back after applying or are you just preparing?
latter
I'm also curious to know what the process is like


