canada

[wheat comet]

yea

like i could not think of how to pass those test cases

[azure spire]

u either pass em all or u dont imo

[vivid fiber]

which is y i say to only attempt a q for 20~30min

[storm sierra]

bless

[wheat comet]

@vivid fiber ur in queens computing right

[lunar sandal]

The hardest mediums

Are the with fucking array operations

Min max product, max subarray sum, do prefix XOR, etc etc

[azure spire]

prefix xor is only like 5 lines wdym 😂

[lunar sandal]

not talking about how to do it

Talking about when to recognize that you need to

[azure spire]

yeah, ru talking about the beautiful subarray one from last weeks contest?

[lunar sandal]

Yep

Exactly

[azure spire]

i facepalmed so hard when i saw the solution

[vivid fiber]

yes

[azure spire]

did not even think that u could just traverse it linearly

[wheat comet]

can I dm you about a queens related question or would you rather I ask here

[azure spire]

even tho i did similar stuff like subarrays divisible by k etc

[vivid fiber]

yea ofc

dm away

[lunar sandal]

I miss when

Buying and selling stock was considered more on the challenging side of quesfions asked

( exactly 1 year ago )

[vivid fiber]

yes, also the ds&a course is waste

[lunar sandal]

rlly?

[analog current]

I love kgirls

[lunar sandal]

my 1st year dsa course taught me linked lists, BSTs, stacks queues etc

and 2nd year heaps, avl, hash tables, etc

[boreal sentinel]

american pop sucks

[vivid fiber]

Its true

[boreal sentinel]

kpop is the best

[vivid fiber]

Bad take

[analog current]

Based take

[vivid fiber]

Kpop is good

[analog current]

Kpop is best

[vivid fiber]

American Pop is good

[analog current]

American pop is ASS

[boreal sentinel]

^^

the movies are ass the shows are ass

[tawny raptor]

How do you apply within hours

Like how is that possible

[boreal sentinel]

i just consume south/southeast/east asian content

[analog current]

Based

[azure spire]

it's just asians are better at art and music

[boreal sentinel]

asia number 1 fr

[azure spire]

westerners have the better content for math and sciences

[analog current]

[azure spire]

that's why all those academic papers are in english

[boreal sentinel]

wait a min

[azure spire]

and the top schools are all in NA

fuckin nerds

[boreal sentinel]

chinese ivy league gonna take over soon

give 5-10 years

[analog current]

🇨🇳

Numba #1

[vivid fiber]

This is such a bad take

[boreal sentinel]

u can find a gem

i will say that

[vivid fiber]

You're discounting an continent's cultural output

[boreal sentinel]

but its like 1/1000

[azure spire]

yeah we have like breaking bad and uh

cory in the house

[vivid fiber]

breaking bad, the wire, severance, the bear, better call saul, mr robot, the last of us,

i could go on

there's so many shows old and new which are great

[lunar sandal]

the wire.

way dooownn in the hole

[vivid fiber]

i disagree, but ok

[lunar sandal]

thats a lyric

from one of the closing songs

outtro songs

of the show..

[vivid fiber]

idk its been a while lol

sorry

[azure spire]

fake westaboo poser spotted

[vivid fiber]

westaboo?

like peek a boo?

[azure spire]

i bet u cant even name britney spears' latest 5 boyfriends

https://britneyspears.com/

holy shit

i should apply to be their webpage dev

that would be a banger in my resume

yeah bussy mains can get away with that

we just need self driving cars and set up a function workspace while in transit and a lot of this nonsense would be sidestepped

self drivings always 5 years away tho

i wonder if there's a shape rotator vs wordcel dichotomy for ai as well

wordcel gpt sure is taking the spotlight for now

[tawny raptor]

Tbh I just wouldnt go

Like if your manager is nice you might be able to reason with them

They dont gain much from you coming in a couple times as an intern

And its a clear L for your side

So they would probably let it slide

Huh

Ah

Unless they specifically asked you to come in

I would assume you could just ask not to

Since you’re almost done your term and only an intern and live far

I think if you explained 5h commute it would be ok

I mean

Did she like say you have to specifically

Cause if not

You may be overthinking the importance of this

imo

If she says “it would be nice if you come in”, just be like “oh man i wish but i live a 5h commute away” and I feel like she would drop it

Does she know that you live far

[azure spire]

i feel like it's not prudent to tell them that ur taking a lot of school courses

[tawny raptor]

Ye this part a bit sus

Idk

I dont know the dynamic but it seems like a minor thing for them

I dont think it would be an issue if you said its too far to come in more

Just say it nice

[boreal sentinel]

gl

just go with the flow

when u feel like grinding, grind

yesss 👏

[blazing shore]

Anyone here who did a US internship on a J-1 know of any consultants that do taxes for cheap (sprint tax is charging ~100)

[placid dawn]

anyone with 1 yoe of internship struggling ?

[lucid berry]

You guys would rather take Lyft internship or Bell new grad?

i c

why

[analog current]

better name better pay brother

[tawny raptor]

is there any reason to take bell even

[vivid fiber]

Lyft is a big tech company, pays much better, prob better tech stack, better chance at working on interesting things, etc

[lucid berry]

90-95k tc

[vivid fiber]

Also if you have the option

Why not just do both?

[lucid berry]

[vivid fiber]

Ask Bell if you can delay start date

And do Lyft first

[lucid berry]

oh

that's a good idea

thank you

[tawny raptor]

lyft pay is more tho

[lucid berry]

Yeah but it's an internship

I'll tell my friend what you guys said

[vivid fiber]

Yeah but internship can lead to NG

Tbh I'm not sure if Lyft internship is > Bell new grad

Esp in dis economy

So I'd recommend tryna do both

[lucid berry]

That's very true

Yeah I'll tell them to do both

[worn moss]

yo does working at zoox block you from working at cruise or waymo since they’re competitors

[charred pecan]

Should I just bite the bullet and take the FDM Group job? I'm coming up to a year out of school and no job yet, starting to lose hope.

[lucid berry]

no

there should be something in the contract that will say something about that

[lucid berry]

alright

[eternal fossil]

lyft went ghost

after asking for new grad apps

or maybe i just didnt get a call back

who had squarepoint OA in here?

[broken whale]

Has anyone interviewed with Public Health Agency of Canada for Junior Full Stack Dev role?

Just wondering what to expect

[worn moss]

had it for c++ intern role

it was light

but the last question will ask u to like debug code which gets fucked if u dont understand the language's syntax

[merry umbra]

anyone done the cisco newgrad assessment challenge?

i saw some some olds messages

was wondering about recently tho 🙂

[analog current]

I have options for cs: uoft, Waterloo and ubc - do y’all have ur personal recommendations on ur experiences with these programs?

[raw ocean]

lowkey go where you have good friends going, if can't decide

[tranquil goblet]

go to loo, ubc and uoft isn't guaranteed you'll get into cs major

oh ok, i can only speak for ubc then, it's not guaranteed you''ll get into at ubc

[azure spire]

just dont have a friend group and focus on fulfilling your studies so u can optimize ads and center divs for google

[eternal fossil]

did you move forward

or

[raw ocean]

real shit

[tawny raptor]

Waterloo is great

Here rn

No regrets

I love it

[tawny zephyr]

u got uw cs??

W

idk tbh but i think ubc has post

so go uw or uoft

wont make a diff tbh

whichever one is cheaper

[raw ocean]

you're right actually

[tawny zephyr]

its just coop

which may be a big diff for some people

but shes done CSSI and I think a few other programs with FAANG companies

so I dont think she needs to rely on the coop system too heavily

just my opinion I dont know much 🤣

skill issue just get a greencard

link?

to asip program

what yr are u

and from what I see waterloo campus is pretty dead

uoft seems much more lively

AMD also hires from uoft more

if u wanna get an AMD co-op this is what a recruiter told me

yeah

AMD recruiter

lol

AMD recruiter @ ElleHacks told me lmaoo

[azure vortex]

arent you a guy

why are you going to women only hackatons

🤨

[tawny zephyr]

I was a mentor

😐

[worn moss]

idt ppl realize the difference lmao its huge

[worn moss]

coop is the smallest part of it imo

[tawny zephyr]

what else is there

network?

he alr said coop

[real storm]

Man york really sleeping out here

[tawny zephyr]

fr 💀

idk he told me that 🤣

[worn moss]

coop is shit at both schools and tbh if i we're to go back id drop coop

[tawny zephyr]

yeah

[worn moss]

student life, network, company connections, reputation among tech culture etc, grad school school outcomes

[tawny zephyr]

no offense but what student life are u talkin about

[worn moss]

list goes out on

[tawny zephyr]

from what I have seen or heard

idk cuz hs ofc

theres no student life

[worn moss]

lmao

cause ur talking to a bunch of cs mans who stay at home all day

[tawny zephyr]

who should I talk to then 😭

[azure spire]

solving an lc hard by yourself feels better than sex

[worn moss]

talk to mans from ur hs the only man ik from rhss is hamza

[tawny zephyr]

oh shit yk hamza?

[worn moss]

talk to him ig idk but loo is acc bare fun

[tawny zephyr]

I dont even go to rhss anymore

[quiet ferry]

go to waterloo trust

[worn moss]

ball and soccer runs are solid and run every day, party life is kinda shit for the most part but like st pattys and halloween we're live, campus is not the worst, upper years are hella chill and helpful, making friends is easy af etc.

theres alot of other things u should consider when picking a uni not just "what gets you the best job" after grad

most of my friends that went uoft and tmu hate it cause its a commuter school and there isnt a crazy number of motives

[quiet ferry]

theres 1 frat ik in waterloo

[worn moss]

my friends r in a sorority at uoft lmao they still hate it

and there r frats in waterloo but like idk who tf acc wants to join a frat

yea idk i cant speak on uoft like that but i mean im just pointing out that theres stuff to consider besides career outcomes

[quiet ferry]

the fun part about waterloo is that every bar/club nearby is 95% students, i go to waterloo and i dont think my social life would be any better in toronto, u just need a good group of friends

[static scarab]

waterloo if you really want placement in tech

the other two if you want a life

[merry crystal]

if ur talking about dd from the laurier side

it would be uoft > ubc > uw/wlu

imo

[worldly ridge]

@weak gazelle u dont have friends

u cant relate

how do u know

atleast u have a 500k condo in harborfornt

im broke 🤷

i guess 😅

thanks 😅

@weak gazelle do you think this is a good pfp for linkedin

i got a photo shoot recently

how come?

bro im not gonna post a thrist trap onlinkedin

[tight gale]

You look good

[vivid fiber]

if u do i will follow u

[analog current]

I am not doing dd

I think my biggest concern ab wloo is the social life

Though I hear it’s a melting pot so that should be interesting

[analog current]

W, I don’t have to worry financially since it’s free for me because I’m native

I am not rich or anything but I’m in a very lucky position if I just wanted to get degrees until I run out

[tawny zephyr]

WWWWWWW

LETS GO

u deserve this 🙌

honestly I dont know

[analog current]

🔥 ty

[tawny zephyr]

but 1 thing ill tell u is do ur own research

a lot of people here are biased af

[analog current]

Lol

[tawny zephyr]

do ur own research then decide

but uoft campus is way nicer

I like it more

but ur choice at the end of the day

[analog current]

We will see

I still have lots of time

[tawny zephyr]

yea

congrats tho

make sure to put in a good word for me with the dean 🤣

[worldly ridge]

thanks friend 🙂

[worldly ridge]

i feel objecitfied

[worldly ridge]

ull be fine if u touch grass

just join a lto of itnramurals and clubs/sport clubs

ull be invited to parties every weekend :3

[vivid fiber]

ok

[tawny raptor]

Waterloo social life is great

Just dont stay in your room all day 👍

I think if you listen to the type of people who complain on reddit all day you’re gonna get their perspective

Which is obviously gonna be depressing sounding

But the actual school and social scene is great

[analog current]

I think as a girl, I’m just concerned I don’t know other girls there lmfao

Yes they exist but idk any yet 😭

[tawny raptor]

Not a girl so I can't really speak too much on it but there's lots of girls here in CS/SE and just in general

The ones I know seem to like Waterloo

[tawny zephyr]

I dont remember u looking like that

last we met

my memory must be bad!

[tawny zephyr]

yeah during ellehacks I was getting roasted by a bunch of waterloo cs / se girls

[lunar sandal]

That is sad.

[tawny zephyr]

about how I am a sweaty hsers

[tawny zephyr]

lmaoo

[analog current]

I’m sure they were too lmao

It seems like everyone enters wloo cs w 2 internships now

[tawny zephyr]

perhaps they were struggling with coop

if i remember correctly

finding coop

[worldly ridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1000540745284984934/1066623093969260594/attachment.gif

[lunar sandal]

GUYS

for intl students

acc w8

[raw ocean]

what's up

[analog current]

Speaking of struggles did u see the 1b placement statistics

[tawny zephyr]

nope

what are they

[tawny zephyr]

💀 💀

thats actually crazy

[analog current]

It’s time to go into civ

[tawny zephyr]

40% of CS employed

💀 💀

[tawny zephyr]

cs overrated anyway

some crazy ppl out there

dunno how yall grind so much

im jus tryna have fun

[analog current]

I feel like I’ll have fun at ubc but idk

[vivid fiber]

My friend, you're the grinder 😭

[tawny zephyr]

I do the bare minimum

I guess I am just consistent maybe thats why

[analog current]

Ur right, let’s see the summer statistics when they come out

[vivid fiber]

💀

I don't believe dat but ok

[tawny zephyr]

I do stuff for fun and the bare minimum otherwise trust

[tawny zephyr]

😐

wanna take another guess

no

16

gonna be 17 soon

I am getting old like u guys

[tawny raptor]

Those are summer stats

[tawny zephyr]

it says spring 2023

[candid oxide]

they are summer stats, spring is summer for uw

[azure spire]

dude what

spring and summer are two different seasons out of the four seasons

my baby niece knows that

god bless her, her family will be moving out of town soon, im going to miss her

waterloos disregard for the well ordering of seasons has now ruined my night

[lunar sandal]

LMFAO

[drifting shore]

^

[raw ocean]

season is doomed

[worn moss]

a company I reneged is asking if I got a better offer("Did you end up getting another offer that you preferred?") should I let them know that I did or avoid the question

[formal galleon]

Those are the summer stats...

Waterloo's summer term is called spring because it goes from may-august

Yes the first years are doing bad, but thats to be expected, barely anyone is hiring and those that are aren't looking for a student whos a first year

[formal galleon]

How can you say you're doing the bare minimum when you're in a cscareers discord at 16

Just enjoy your highschool years don't be one of those losers who make their career their whole life

[latent gazelle]

I joined literally today at 17 lmao

[kind jasper]

Yes, let them know. Not where you got it, necessarily or numbers/amounts/compensation/rationale for picking the offer you did, etc.

[storm sierra]

Common RBC L, SVB better

[tawny raptor]

Anyone else going to the cohere dinner

[analog current]

i gotta figure out w my time what program

to take

uoft wloo ubc since i have all available as options now

[candid oxide]

what are u most concerned about and what are priorities

[analog current]

social life, want a good gpa to potentially look at grad school in the states and research

I have no financial concerns for the 3

[candid oxide]

if youre going for grad school and research u can prob eliminate loo, although i think a good gpa is easier to get at uw than uoft but not sure about ubc

[analog current]

Ubc has deflation

I can’t go back in time and apply 😭

[tawny raptor]

Waterloo grades in the academia stream classes are hella inflated

[candid oxide]

all 3 programs CS?

[merry crystal]

grad school uoft > ubc > uw

gpa (from hardest to easiest) uoft >= ubc > uw

[candid oxide]

good thing to note for social life uoft is a commuter school so can be hard (but ur still in dt toronto) not sure about ubc

[merry crystal]

ubc is secluded

lots of commuters too

[analog jasper]

anyone who did the squarepoint OA how was it?

[tranquil goblet]

Tru but compared to the others it def has the most campus-y classic university feel to it

Cuz the school is basically its own town

[novel dome]

ANy advice on renege on a offer?

[candid oxide]

pretty easy

[analog jasper]

Thanks

[candid oxide]

was like a brute force lc easy/med and then some debugging

[nocturne flame]

lmao i messed it up big time

but its relatively easy

[formal galleon]

Don't listen to the people telling you you should eliminate loo for research and grad school, we literally have one of the best cryptography programs in the world

Social life is how you make of it, if you take the enriched classes the grades are actually inflated in them so you can still get a good gpa

This also depends on if you got into SE or CS, in CS its definitely easy to have a 3.7+ in SE it would be harder

[nocturne flame]

I think grad schools are also aware of how harsh a school's grading schemes is

[broken whale]

Has anyone here interviewed with CGI for full stack dev coop role?

Just got an interview invite today and was wondering what to expect?

[tranquil oxide]

anyone interview with SOTI for soft dev?

[vernal sigil]

should i do co-op twice at the same place if i cant find anything else (rogers) or should i push my next co-op to fall and apply more

i did really well in my amazon interview but now theyre not giving updates to anyone

[eternal fossil]

yeah do it twice

always better to have something than to not

[vernal sigil]

the thing is, if i do it twice, i only have one co-op left after

if i push to fall, i would do summer classes

[eternal fossil]

ive done classes in summer and i always hated it because you could be enjoying the 3 months of summer canadians get

but if its either or, id say if you dont have an offer from another place then stick with rogers

experience matters

[vernal sigil]

got it, thanks!

[tranquil goblet]

Why isnt amazon giving updates

[vernal sigil]

they said theyre still planning their headcount, yet they're still interviewing more ppl and sending more OAs

[tranquil goblet]

I wonder if the 9000 layoffs @ amazon are affecting intern hiring

It prob is? To some degree

[vernal sigil]

ppl say that it isnt since interns are cheap and temporary

amazon has 1.5mil employees so 9000 layoffs is relatively small

[ashen mason]

Is 1.5m including warehouse staff?

[analog current]

Canada

[placid dawn]

wtf are these junior salaries. for 50k id rather move to europe and make 30k euros

[lucid berry]

How's your student exchange going?

[distant gazelle]

anyone know if the Bell GLP 2023 comp is fixed for all orgs ?

[nocturne flame]

where

[oblique crater]

50k, 800 applicants

market is atrocious

[real mason]

Has anyone interviewed with boosted ai?

[nocturne flame]

ive applied but no repleis

[real mason]

recruiter just called me asking if im still interested, I think i applied early feb

[vernal sigil]

yes

[proud glade]

lookin like a gg to me

[vernal sigil]

when do u have to start applying if u grad in december

[proud glade]

beats me probably september

[placid dawn]

best months of my life. cant put into words

[lucid berry]

[placid dawn]

if u have a chance u should 100% do it

[lucid berry]

Yeah I'm going next year

Got it confirmed

[oblique crater]

what country

[placid dawn]

madrid

[tawny raptor]

Damn

Exchange seems based

[south rose]

anyone here on a TN visa

[nocturne flame]

I just got an invite as well haha

I think it’s just a normal screening

[mental monolith]

Gosh darn

😔

[upbeat bronze]

Anyone interviewed with Morgan Stanley?

[real mason]

i interviewed for the technology analyst/new grad

[upbeat bronze]

Were you able to choose the language of the technical interview?
I was contacted by a recruiter for a role, but she told me i probably have to use c++ in the interview since that is what the position is for. Never heard of any company forcing a language

[real mason]

When I interviewed I didn't need to use a specific language, but when I interviewed it was a "super day" where they were interviewing like 30+ other candidates at the same time. I had 2 back to back interviews where they asked a ton of 'what is ... 'questions i.e: what is the protected keyword? what is a race condition? for the LC style question the interviewer didn't care what language i used and the question was very easy

[upbeat bronze]

I see... thankss
I will recheck with the recruiter and ask her to check if c++ is mandatory for the interview

[analog current]

Canada

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-robot-gif-5733980

everyday im reminded i live in canada

[tight gale]

Hello canada

[steel escarp]

Hows life

[tight gale]

Not bad still here

[steel escarp]

Dang i told u 🤣 u will survive

[analog current]

Still at zon?

[fickle juniper]

Hello Juan

[tight gale]

Yes

[fickle juniper]

I mean notJuan

[tight gale]

For now

[worn moss]

yo how would u guys rank the roles below for tinder

backend, ios, backend + data engineering, data engineering, frontend, mle

[tight gale]

Hmm most girls not in tech wouldn't know the difference so any of them

[fickle juniper]

What r u interested in?

My personal preference would be backend, mle, backend/data but that’s just me

[merry shoal]

I am women, can confirm

Just date ur homie so he can appreciate ur cringe software dev job

Most girls say software = red flag

[lunar sandal]

True

[tawny raptor]

they right tbh

[tawny zephyr]

is kingston expensive

if you want 1 bhk condo / apt

not bad

u have to share?

internship

probably

airbnb would be better

how much would an airbnb be

for 2 months

we'll see its in the summer 🤣

ill check ig

[tawny zephyr]

moving it is a hassle

💀

i'd probs do that with a mattress if I had to

fr?

OP

ill do that with a mattress then

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-robot-gif-5733980

[raw ocean]

what's going on man

[eternal fossil]

another day another application

https://tenor.com/view/alzolanskii-gif-19943830

[raw ocean]

good things coming soon, hang in there

[mental monolith]

mood

just a routine at this point

where do you guys even find new grad positions

80% of the linkedin "Entry Level" posts feel like clickbait

[eternal fossil]

they are clickbait LOOL

seen a junior role by ibm earlier

with 2-3 years experience needed

[mental monolith]

it do be

fortinet never gets back to me man

not even a rejection

whats up with them

the job postings are listed at 2019 lmao and they just change the title

[eternal fossil]

same

[mental monolith]

i guess it's convenient but i keep doing a double take everytime

[eternal fossil]

fortinet is goated

just want a job with them

i even had a referral

and still NOTHING

[mental monolith]

yeah

my friend got a devops OA with them i think

and ghosted after interview?

wild

[eternal fossil]

i did a devops OA with ibm last week

ghosted

[mental monolith]

born to die world is a fuck

soon™️

Ok applied to a few more

Time to re season my cast iron

[outer shadow]

Can we see ur cast iron

I fucking love cast iron

[wispy estuary]

carbon steel ftw

[analog current]

Anyone in Waterloo se?

I got in today 😳

😳

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-umm-what-what-gif-14694719

[tawny zephyr]

cs or se

[mental monolith]

in the oven @ me in a few hours

had to redo some spots at the bottom of the pan

it's so hard to maintain a shiny finish on the bottom of the pan when you're stuck with those shitty coil stoves

either re season after cooking once or twice or just deal with it flaking off and redo the entire thing after a few months

the cook surface is smooth™️ though

[tawny raptor]

as someone who got se i feel like mac health sci def harder

eh

idk what you're in but i think cs is a better fit for most ppl

[subtle storm]

Anyone here looking for accommodation in western Toronto area for the summer?

[raw ocean]

is the canada market worse than us?

[vivid fiber]

for new grad, yeah

for intern, nah

[static scarab]

replied to your dm

[tranquil goblet]

Anyone know if the hedge funds give OA's automatically?

[maiden elm]

some give auto OA based on grad year

[merry shoal]

basd on class size i think this, i have a friend who got in and swapped to engineering lol

chad

i rejected uoft SG eng and cs but i think a lot of ppl do XD im not cool enough to reject loo se i just rejected math there

[formal galleon]

Yea, congrats

[lunar sandal]

can i get ur autograph

u r so cool

[nocturne flame]

@real mason did u do your phone at boosted?

[real mason]

I have it in 30 mins

[real mason]

just finished it

[vagrant thorn]

Yo do you know how your friend found the OA? medium? hard?

[nocturne flame]

howd it go

[real mason]

I think it went well, it was a HR screen with behavioral questions and he recorded a part of the interview where I went over my resume and answered some questions for the tech team. He told me if I pass this round its 4 technical rounds and 1 chat with CTO or something xd

[formal galleon]

4 technicals ????

Those guys are crazy lmao

[mental monolith]

Looked like easy but he never did any lc

[nocturne flame]

4???

jesus

thanks man, i got mine on monday

[real mason]

good luck

[worn moss]

they better pay 60+ CAD

[tawny raptor]

they look interesting

[mental monolith]

cast iron: the thread

[fickle juniper]

Do u guys think we’ll start to see fewer and fewer Lc style questions for swe interviews

[azure spire]

i hope not cuz i already invested a ton of time into this shit lol

[lunar sandal]

why

[vivid fiber]

I tink so

I tink they'll still b som lc qs

But mayb only as first round or oa

[midnight gate]

yes pls but without the code

algorithmic thinking >>> implementation

[lunar sandal]

then whats the point

that just sounds like an excuse to forever abstract away implementation, which is literally ur job

[midnight gate]

yes

[drifting shore]

No

Testing purely on intuition and insight is cringe

[azure spire]

ignoring implementation is cringe indeed

and most leetcode problems have it such that implementation doesnt have to deal with a lot of real life drudgery

if u cant even do a toy implementation then u dont really understand it imo

[fickle juniper]

I wonder if stuff like chatgpt/co-pilot will prove such questions archaic

they already seem so from a practical perspective

[vivid fiber]

ChatGPT can't do most lc mediums and hards

[fickle juniper]

I mean from the perspective of what skills are actually important

[lunar sandal]

U kinda still need strong data structures knowledge regardless of what era

[vivid fiber]

I think leetcode is a good filter for entry-level

[fickle juniper]

yeah maybe I'm getting ahead of myself

[lunar sandal]

Idt leetcode will ever be erased, plus these days u don’t even see direct copies of quesfions

[fickle juniper]

what do you mean direct copies?

[lunar sandal]

Like previously u could have an exact question thrown at u from LC

[fickle juniper]

I think it only takes whatever the next big company to shift away from LC-style questions

[lunar sandal]

What do u think they’ll replace it by

[fickle juniper]

I have no idea

[lunar sandal]

I think their stats show that it’s a good filter for false positive hires

[fickle juniper]

what stats?

[lunar sandal]

their being FAANG

employee performance stats if I had to guess

Correlated with interview performance

[vivid fiber]

I agree

No coue when, if, or how it'll happen

[lunar sandal]

Give me a job

👿

[fickle juniper]

i feel like it's closer than we think, we're seeing a lot of changes in the industry rn, so maybe even really soon

[azure spire]

companies have tried many things

golf balls in airplanes before leetcode

after leetcode meta, some companies try other stuff like take homes or non-leetcode whiteboarding etc

but so far LC-style algorithmic interviews seem to be the majority

[grave quest]

I think LC style algorithmic q's are good as a weedout but I'd much rather see practical questions similar to day to day work vs doing some arcane range query on a fenwick tree

[formal galleon]

I think those who think that LC style questions and some of the algorithms behind them aren't helpful to real work just haven't been working on interesting problems at their work tbh

There's no issue with companies using LC style questions and I hope they stay, not a single other career field in the world has a list of curated questions that you can study beforehand and if you get them right you get a 100k+ salary

[azure spire]

it's kind of getting into an arms race tho

as LC gets more prevalent, more ppl put more effort into getting better at LC-style interviews

and I think the benefit of practicing LC stuff gets pretty diminishing after like... idk, the harder half of LC hards?

like I think most will agree that having good sense of when to use a hashmap is very important, even the oft ridiculed "reversing a linked list" is a good exercise in keeping track of pointers/references(even tho reversing a linked list in itself is kind of useless)

but do you really need to practice stuff like https://leetcode.com/problems/super-egg-drop/ for most jobs?

(FWIW i kinda like this problem)

[worldly ridge]

guys

is it illegal to eat a road kill goose

i didnt kill it

but times are tough

[fickle juniper]

No but u have to report it on ur tax returns

[worldly ridge]

why am i taxeed one veryuthing

t_t

[azure spire]

we live in a society

[worldly ridge]

peopel eat roadkills

@outer shadow you know how to cook goose with ur cast iron/

[outer shadow]

Yes

Goose meat fire

Especially the ones from laurier campus

They taste better when they put up a fight

[worldly ridge]

@weak gazelle your school

[worldly ridge]

not laurier students, but you? yes

😦

[hardy minnow]

any discord server for toronto internship mans?

[vivid fiber]

Not specific to Toronto, but: https://github.com/Queen-s-COMPSA/Canadian-Tech-Internships-2023

[lunar sandal]

i'd choose a summer internship

[ancient tartan]

I will choose UIUC and UMich, rather than UT and loo non-coop ms programs.

for international student, there are only a few ms programs in loo and UT that support coop.

lol

i think it depends on your situation, whether you want to work and live in US or CA, whether you are international student, do you have internship experience, like that

ye, if you do a master in CA, you will not need to worry about the visa. and that's the main reason why some talented sde do their masters in CA rather than US

since you just graduated and in OPT rn, are you looking for another internship or fulltime position?

ic, btw, do a master for free, do you mean earn money and waive the tuition by doing a TA?

I think it is a more secure option to pursue a master's degree in Canada, but if you plan on working in the United States in the future, it may require more time and effort as you would need to study, work, obtain a PR card, and then apply for citizenship.

[storm stream]

How are my fellow Canadians doing in this dogshit economy?

[worldly ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/doomer-ken-kanye-fan-gif-25334451

[storm stream]

Aren't you at 2sig

[worldly ridge]

sure

[storm stream]

Check DM 😏

[worldly ridge]

Im just hoping for real estate to crash

[storm stream]

Yes pls

[vivid fiber]

@worldly ridge is overemployed

[tight gale]

[tranquil goblet]

Anyone know if Splunk gives automatic OA?

[ripe crescent]

Has anyone been able to find new-grad job postings recently?? 💀

[vivid fiber]

Squarepoint is the only recent 1 i kno of

[ripe crescent]

My usual LinkedIn searches of "New Grad Developer" "Entry Level Developer" are coming up pretty empty

[wispy estuary]

Yeah the primary NG hiring season is over for 2023 :/

Keep looking at company websites, and search for the keyword "Junior" too

[ripe crescent]

For all of 2023 or do you mean just for the Summer? Wouldn't jobs come up for the Fall?

I thought these were quarterly, like coops 🥲

[wispy estuary]

It is like co-ops, as in there is usually a large amount of co-ops (and new grad positions) for the summer, while other semesters there is notably less hiring

Just keep applying, you got this!

[gentle cairn]

💀

[hollow arrow]

Anyone know if 813 codesignal is good enough for Coinbase?

Or should I retake it

[candid oxide]

unsure but probably?

[fickle juniper]

Afaik its not auto

[fickle juniper]

Last fall they gave an interview to everyone 700+

[fickle juniper]

oh damn rly

that's kinda nuts considering 850 is the highest score 💀

is that some behavioural section?

[hollow arrow]

Yeah it’s a check for the company culture fit

[tight gale]

Who else is tempted to just yolo and go travel and try again next year

[nocturne flame]

I am

Except I don’t have the money for that 🤡

[reef iron]

bruh that would be so ez

[fickle juniper]

coinbase in the fall was basically first-come first-serve

(still had to pass the interview)

[candid oxide]

answered pretty randomly for that part it was so long

[fickle juniper]

staycation

[sand narwhal]

i got phone w/ 728 kek

[azure spire]

yeah they rejected me today before even letting me do a codesignal

smh i cant even make use of my 820

[formal galleon]

Is the coinbase thing for newgrad? When did they post an intern posting?

[formal galleon]

No its not automatic, which role did you apply for I thought they were done for the summer

[candid oxide]

They had an intern posting a bit ago

[tranquil goblet]

Backend intern

Forgot i even applied to it

maybe its for fall?

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-robot-gif-5733980

havent felt the urge to grind today

wake me up scotty

[real storm]

MARKET IS FUCKD

[raw ocean]

hang in there

[ripe crescent]

for anyone who went through the recruitment for IBM Associate Developer (Entry Level), did you receive an actual rejection email?

I just got an email to survey their recruitment process, but I haven't even heard back yet from my final interviews??

🫠

[mental monolith]

are these ever that helpful

most of the "advice" i got were "just do/apply more lol"

not exactly helpful

and for some reason they put so much emphasis on cover letter

this may very well be anecdotal but the internships i've gotten were the ones that didnt ask for cover letter heh

a simple 4-5 sentence "why do you want to work here" at most

[fickle juniper]

Low key best advice is to apply to everything as soon as the posting is released

[mental monolith]

yeah

i had better hit rate when i sorted from most recently posted

rather than doing a rat race against coop postings expiring in 1-2 days

[fickle juniper]

There’s a much higher chance of ur application being seen when ur among the first 50 applications than if ur among the first 2000 for example

That’s why u hear ppl saying “my resume was perfect for this role but I got ghosted”. If thats true, ur resume probably just never got seen

[mental monolith]

huh really

i signed my contract for my first coop on dec 14th

days before exam

for a jan start coop lol

i mean yeah it's unlikely but i'd assume companies are getting equally desperate to fill positions

yeah same as newgrad

gl either way though

[lunar sandal]

ANY UNEMPLOYED IN SUMMER ENJOYERS

[eternal fossil]

the real way to live summer

[eternal fossil]

ordered some computer part from aliexpress and still hasnt arrived after almost 2.5 months, my refund window is getting smaller, should i just do it refund or wait lol

[lunar sandal]

refund

ease

[mental monolith]

what u getting

i hope it's some sketchy watercooling parts

[outer shadow]

my school just had a 'meet the recruiters' panel where there was a couple different recruiters from tech/bank companies

they laughed when they were asked about cover letters

they said they never read them ever

one day youll look back at how youre feeling right now

and wonder why you were even worried

youll figure it out ❤️

[lunar sandal]

shit job market

gpa dropping

mental health declining

[frozen brook]

ahh, just failed another final

[lunar sandal]

unluck.

[lunar sandal]

unlucky bro

[frozen brook]

job market bad :(

[lunar sandal]

Char i think i've seen u get finals for more than 1 company

[frozen brook]

yea i have

[lunar sandal]

idk anything abt u but is it fair to say that the coding ability isnt ur issue?

like i think ur pretty set there..maybe examining other areas would help

again idk u just making baseless assumption

[frozen brook]

idk, also probably cause not 3rd eyar

[lunar sandal]

cuz ur going super far on these interview pipelines

[frozen brook]

year*

[lunar sandal]

yeah see thats what i mean, im same year as u and im getting jack shit

[frozen brook]

yea :/ got dropbox, hubspot, EA, NTT, and bentley

passed bentley systems, but failed all others

[lunar sandal]

so u have an offer?

[frozen brook]

yea i do, but not great tbh

[lunar sandal]

....

[frozen brook]

i cant really complain but damn

failing finals :/

[lunar sandal]

u a UWLoo kid?

[frozen brook]

nah mcgill

[lunar sandal]

enjoy ur summer at bentley bro

also if u dont mind me asking, u dabble in competitive programming?

[frozen brook]

yea i do

dont really leet code tho

[lunar sandal]

i see

u think its too late to start on Codeforces ?

as 2nd yr

[frozen brook]

nah its not

give yourself like the summer

to code and undersstand algos

and you'll be fine

[lunar sandal]

is it worth tho

[frozen brook]

hmm id say projects are probably worth more

but knowing a bit of optimal solutions will help you in technical interviews

so i would say so

[storm sierra]

Same

[frozen brook]

what unis do you guys go to

[azure spire]

most leetcode stuff should be a cakewalk for someone into CP no?

[tight gale]

No

Few people I know did CF seems overkill for most places

[wicked geyser]

Hey if you don’t mind me asking how is the compensation at Bentley and what role did you get?

[frozen brook]

i'll dm ya

[muted portal]

I checked on the portal and it's a rejection 😔

but no actual email

yet

mine is an intern though

[ripe crescent]

I followed up and got a rejection email after lolol

the recruitment process was a mess, so maybe it's ok! on to the next iggg 🫠

oh interesting, the status on the portal says "job closed" instead of "not selected" 💀

[muted portal]

for me it says "no longer under consideration"

[muted portal]

Yeah I followed up last week, they said we'll know by next week lol

I'll only do their feedback if they actually email to reject me

the guy I talked to said like 3 times "oh we'll definitely be in contact, let me confirm your info" then ghost 💀

[hard cave]

yo anyone who interned in US, how does tax work? do u just pay difference again to canada tax? cause from what i gather the company only pays for u the US tax

[fickle juniper]

There is a treaty between the Canada and the US that accounts for what to do but it’s too complicated for a non tax accountant. I’ve heard sprintax accounts for this? But also it’s my first yr doing US/Canada taxes

[storm stream]

Has anyone applied to CSIS?

[ripe crescent]

it's so messed up. according to the portal, my application status updated to "job closed" 2 days before my last final interview

like why waste my time like that? 💀

[quiet ferry]

yup u first do your taxes on the US side as a non-resident, then when you do your canadian taxes you can declare the foreign income and get a foreign tax credit for the taxes u paid in the US

[muted portal]

yeah bruh

[lunar sandal]

HOW TO RENEGE

when u have no company to renege

[storm stream]

Who tryna renege

In this economy

[lunar sandal]

[storm stream]

You must be ballin

[steel escarp]

why is faang an exception?

[lunar sandal]

What’s t5

I’m at a t2 and I can assure u it’s a fucked market for everyone

Oh I thought u meant Canada LMFAO

[steel escarp]

idt any of the faang have blacklists

[lunar sandal]

We are in Canada chat

After all

Starting to think that’s true

[steel escarp]

i still think its pretty doable if you're ok with a average new grad/ internship

a.k.a: prob a local company

[azure spire]

just be based my dudes

[steel escarp]

i mean u can always get a research position at school which prob pay around 15-20

[lunar sandal]

what year r u

[real storm]

anyone a new grad rn STRUGGLING to get a mf job out here

[dark lintel]

were you previously at amazon?

[lunar sandal]

Yeah same

[real storm]

Ye

[storm stream]

faang doesn't blacklist lmao... just a 6 month ish cooldown

you can even boomerang without interviewing within a certain amount of time

[storm stream]

me 🙂

[worldly ridge]

when wiill the downturn end 💤

[magic perch]

Why does it feel like much fewer Amazon interns got FT return offers from ‘22? Is this actually true? I’m just seeing a lot more searching and lot fewer LinkedIn “incoming SDE…”, just wondering if the anecdotal evidence is real

[vivid fiber]

While I don't have evidence, it would make sense.

Considering Amazon has done a few layoffs

[storm stream]

You're probably seeing all the internationals that got screwed by the postponements... Effectively they can't really return cuz it's too late for their visas to hold up

[magic perch]

This was US specific tho, idt this happened in Canada

[fickle juniper]

Amazon hires from my school like crazy, I haven’t heard of a single rescind and am pretty sure conversion rates were good

[lucid berry]

I thought Amazon hired crazy from every school lol

[fickle juniper]

Oh lol wouldn’t be surprised

[ripe crescent]

when do amazon ng applications come out? i know it happens multiple times per year, but when?

[fickle juniper]

Usually Aug for the following yr

Iirc

[azure spire]

compiler dev questions i guess

[eternal fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/alzolanskii-gif-19943830

[tight gale]

Yo

[lunar sandal]

NO

[worldly ridge]

hey friend! @tight gale

hope ur doing well!

[tight gale]

trying to, hope you are doing well too friend

[raw ocean]

hang in there ppl

[eternal fossil]

whomever reading this from bed

go to sleep bro

youll get that job

[worldly ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-gif-25785273

hope everything gets better friend

[lunar sandal]

Update: i did NOT get that job

[eternal fossil]

i was in your mindset like 3 days ago

yell into a pillow and keep going

[lunar sandal]

its alr almost summer bro

No chance

internship dream dead

[eternal fossil]

get on upwork

[lunar sandal]

yeah thats the next step

[eternal fossil]

but still keep your eye out

there will be some apples falling so be newton and do something completely different

(jobs show up go harass hiring manager of that job)

[mental monolith]

i am going to lose it

but before we get into it

a quick word from our sponsor

nordvpn

[lucid berry]

You got job?

[candid oxide]

anyone do cb final yet

[storm stream]

cb is hiring?

[candid oxide]

ye

[storm stream]

nice

[eternal fossil]

damn wtf i have a cb referral

[eternal fossil]

no

[storm stream]

enjoy being employed

[worldly ridge]

Does Ramp have a high TC or something

Why are they so popular in this server

@vivid fiber do you know anything about em

[vivid fiber]

It's a hype startup with a lot of good talent. In addition, they also pay pretty well.

[worldly ridge]

they have canadian roles or is it strictly us?

I saw in levels someone got vancouver ramp

[vivid fiber]

Strictly U.S.A. afaik

Maybe remote for seniors?

Idk

[worldly ridge]

i mean the guy was making 40k in vanc

buahahah, thanks!

[vivid fiber]

I doubt it's real then lol

[worldly ridge]

yueah

[vivid fiber]

Mayb they got confused with some rando Canadian company 💀

[eternal fossil]

I wish it were that easy

[formal galleon]

Whats CB?

[formal galleon]

Is this for summer? I'm surprised they're hiring this late in the cycle

Hope it works out for you guys

[naive island]

ngl this spamming jobs shit is kind of brutal

[muted portal]

yeah

when I thought sportlogiq would at least give me an interview

[worldly ridge]

Guys, I need advice. Should I spent 8.4k per year to rent on campus even though I am done school.

Live at my parents for free but that sounds so painful

I live in burlington so its a bunch of old people

Yeah but still, its still 8.4k t_t

I mean I would so live with my parents if im introverted but im literaly the other side of the spectrum

its 8.4k though

Yeah

no one likes you

yeah but its 8.4k...

thats like 1 year of emergency funds

[tight gale]

Congrats on offer friend

[worldly ridge]

thanks friend ❤️

[grave quest]

[ashen mason]

Tc

[storm stream]

Is square point capital decent?... They keep reposting their job post

[lucid berry]

Yes

~120k TC

[dark lintel]

great TC for Montreal

[worldly ridge]

Who here has maxed out their FHSA already?

[storm sierra]

ooo hoping it works out

gl

[storm stream]

You're gonna land it then go to hrt next year

[storm stream]

Does Lockheed match contributions?

[wispy estuary]

@worldly ridge you work at lockheed canada?

[frigid plover]

Does Amazon Usa still take Canadians?

I heard somewhere they don’t

[fickle juniper]

AFAIK they don’t sponsor anymore

[boreal sentinel]

i saw some waterloo kids at amazon usa but i think they have sponsorship

[frigid plover]

I am a us citizen and applied with referral for summer 2023 as soon as applications came out. Got no OA 😬

[wispy estuary]

It is rough like it is everywhere, but entirely possible (depending on your experience)

If you're graduating this month it's tough but IIRC international undergrads get 3 years to look for a job (but have to be employed for a full year by the end of the 3 years so basically 2)?

[steel escarp]

Its rough in canada for ng lol

I dont think a master helps a lot unless you need the paper for pgwp

[steel escarp]

i mean if you can find a job in canada then there's no reason to do master

🤷‍♂️

[static scarab]

unpopular opinion: master is just a bad excuse to learn bad practices for 2 years

if you really want to do research, try to do research with a company

[fickle lotus]

^

You're looking at hundreds of apps

Or you could be my buddy who applied to 3 places a month before grad and got an offer lol

[analog current]

How many of y'all tryna land Fall 2023?

or are y'all just looking for summer

internship^

[muted portal]

applying

only applied for one or 2 rn

didn't see many

other than autodesk

[analog current]

@muted portal theres like autodesk n like vidyard lol

thats about it

[muted portal]

yeah that's what I applied to

and there was tesla 💀

[analog current]

oh ya tesla

u applyin US too?

i applied like cisco and a couple others but they dont sponsor rip

[muted portal]

no, tesla for canada

where are you looking for it?

[analog current]

oh u mean

richmond hill

on

one**

linkedin/glassdoor/indeed

[muted portal]

yeah

[muted portal]

there's not many fall lol. or summer. hopefully soon

[worldly ridge]

Yeha they are planning to contrinute to FHSA for entry grads too

Im thinking of buying a property in Oakville, RIchmondhill, Downtown Toronto or Vancoucer, not sure yet

50k

[storm stream]

what about calgary

[worldly ridge]

Sorry, I only buy properties in world class icties

[storm stream]

Right

Like Oakville

But we can live together if you buy in calgary

[ripe crescent]

has anyone done the digital interview for the bell glp?

anyone know what i can expect? 🙂

[tawny zephyr]

oakville isnt bad tbh

[steel escarp]

Is housing even expensive in oakville?

I thought kitchener has higher roi

[worldly ridge]

oakville is like richmond hill but for caucasians; everyone has boats there and golfs

[worldly ridge]

yeah I might buy a entire student building with multiple floors with my TC and rent it to international students

[steel escarp]

👀 thats the plan

Unfortunately calgary doesnt have that good roi

I heard in kitchener u can even get positive cash flow if u invest in the right property and rent it out

[tawny zephyr]

☠️

oakville is rich af

[worldly ridge]

its because every area meant for housing is instead repalced with golfing areas and shipping docks

[tawny zephyr]

true

but its fine

yahkuna can afford

hes rich

hrt pays well

[worldly ridge]

[tawny zephyr]

I didnt know u were canadian tho

[worldly ridge]

realy?

[tawny zephyr]

yea

I thought u were 🇺🇸

[worldly ridge]

oh god dam I wish

lets swithc spots

[tawny zephyr]

I am both

ill give u kanada for kanada

[fickle juniper]

i have no interest in a masters but in general I feel like it's potentially useful for three things:

1. academia
2. visa
3. switch into something that requires a masters (which swe is not)

[steel escarp]

well imo i think it depends on where u want to work after the degree. If you want to work in the state then doing a us master is prob better. But if i want easy immigration process then canada has more friendly process compared to us

🤷‍♂️

loo master is easier than uoft master i think

[grave quest]

i think oakville/rhill might be the move

dt is too packed

[grave quest]

landed s23,f23,w24,s24

[steel escarp]

no one knows

🤣

well u gotta get citizenship

before getting tn