canada

[oblique crater]

oh lol $50 in taxes, ontario moment

[real storm]

thre's this big tub one i forgot the name vega i think or something like that

[worldly ridge]

okay i see, will check em out thanks

[tawny raptor]

Yeah im jw what to expect

[barren sinew]

How much is the non-economy whey?

[worldly ridge]

Im not sure since i dont buy the non economy

https://canadianprotein.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAo-yfBhD_ARIsANr56g6N44WLAwcsaHGHBEnD9O9rHQTTV_7zxPue9oh02honBvdc0l_3nMYaAn9xEALw_wcB

You can check it out there though

Dont get vanilla flavor and chocoalte flavor, its soo bad, but if its the only option and ur tyrna save money, feel free to get it

[real storm]

you try their clear whey isolate? looking to pick some of that up

the reg one fucks me up lmao

[worldly ridge]

noo i never have

the reg one is okay for me

[echo latch]

Yes

That’s what my friend’s sister has

[ripe crescent]

Anyone know what the interview process is like for Veeva? Not sure what to expect

[ripe crescent]

Or with Willow Tree?

[worldly ridge]

My friend just did it, one way interview is first stage

he hasnt heard back yet

[ripe crescent]

ouu ok, do you know if it's just behavioural? i guess it doesn't matter since it's unlimited retries, but i just wanna check before i start!

[worldly ridge]

im not sure, but it should be 😆

[upper linden]

does any1 know what the final interview process is like for SOTI?

[ripe crescent]

Anyone interview with the hybrid cloud practice for IBM Consulting?

[tranquil venture]

Is this for new grad?

[ripe crescent]

Yeah

[steel escarp]

Did u cc hr? 👀

[fickle juniper]

?? Does anyone else at your company know

[eternal fossil]

What are they gonna do? Make you redo your two weeks because they now just saw it ?

It’s a courteous notice to the company to start looking for your replacement

[oblique crater]

yeah that's disrespectful, 99% chance saw it, just cc HR on your last day and never log in or talk to them again

[wispy estuary]

EY

@students

https://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/jobs/search-internships.asp

Canadian Space Agency posted internships today

(and a bunch of them)

[tawny raptor]

oh shit sick

i thought they said they only posted on coop portals when i checked a while back

[turbid island]

damn they require cover letter

[normal jetty]

Vega is not good it has a high lead concentration

[real storm]

wtf

uh where you getting that from

[normal jetty]

https://www.consumerreports.org/dietary-supplements/heavy-metals-in-protein-supplements/

Plant-based proteins may have higher contamination levels because the plants are especially prone to absorbing heavy metals from soil, says Sean Callan, Ph.D.

[eternal fossil]

god damnn lmfao

[worldly ridge]

💀

after discovering about PFAS and how its basicaly everywhere n increases ur chacnes of stuff like cancer

im accpeting the fact that ill die with cancer or something unhinged whenim old

[real storm]

my life acceptancy just hit +1 year after eating vega protein and DOWNING simply orange juice

boutta be pfoaLead man

[worldly ridge]

yeah but it can be in any product and you wouldnt rly noe like for example ur dental floss

yeah, i need to proactively start changing it

it sucks because my favorite food is popcorn

[oblique crater]

wtf is PFAS

[worldly ridge]

dude i love these

[oblique crater]

lol as much as you try those things are wvwrywhere

[worldly ridge]

https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/Orville-Redenbacher-Microwave-Popcorn-Light-Buttery/6000112371186

lowest in calories but ik im gonnag et cancer

💀

[oblique crater]

we’re riddled with microplastics Hepa can’t save you

but there’s no point if they’re already in there right

when did you start doing that?

if you did it from a very young age so basically your parents did then that’s good

[worldly ridge]

its scary that not a lot of people know about PFAS

[worldly ridge]

well its recently discovered by scienteists

[oblique crater]

but the damage is potentially already been done if your body can’t purge it right

[worldly ridge]

like its very recent

[oblique crater]

does a britta filter that stuff out?

[worldly ridge]

why did you sya it was 3k per year

oh wait im tirpin haha

ya makes sense

[oblique crater]

so do you not drink water outside the house?

i know where you’re coming from but i can’t be bothered to do all of this

if I die I die brother it was nice knowing y’all

[worldly ridge]

yeah its so fked up

made a lot of people retarted

💀

[oblique crater]

it’s not about the money it’s about how much consideration you have to make in your every move

[worldly ridge]

blindness and losing ur limbs for me

@safe light besides the ro filters in ur house, ur water, and changing from non stick pan r u doing anything else

[eternal fossil]

so the job bank has some mixed reviews

i was surprised to see so many positions on there

[vivid fiber]

What reviews

[eternal fossil]

apparently lot of the jobs are scams

[vivid fiber]

Oh lol idk

I just found it

[eternal fossil]

resume harvesters and a lot of them are PR scams

[vivid fiber]

Looked legit

[eternal fossil]

yeah it is

[vivid fiber]

I'll remove it

[eternal fossil]

it could be

no no

its good

i was enticed

40 bucks an hour ?

for new grad roles ?

[vivid fiber]

Yeah i removed it

[eternal fossil]

i just didnt believe it although ill try and find out what the success rate it

[vivid fiber]

Thanks for lmk

I thot it was legit

Cuz gov of Canada

[eternal fossil]

no it is legit

but according to ppl on reddit some of them are just scams etc

my source: reddit

but im gonna try and apply to like 5 of them right now

see whats what

[oblique crater]

living legitimately healthy is incredibly expensive in a city

otherwise you just gotta live off the land in a rural community

[worldly ridge]

i think the plan is to live in a tech hub for me -> get cancer -> get maid -> no need to pay for retirement for me

bro this is some dune shit 💀 💀

dam dysotpian

reminds me of the sauadakar in dune

[rigid meadow]

How hard is it to get an internship w the government as opposed to private sector?

[eternal fossil]

Nah new grad roles

[mental monolith]

thoughts on devops?

i applied to a few but didnt think too much about the position itself

seems very different from sdev, not sure about career paths and whatnot

[vivid fiber]

My first internship was a devops

If you don't get anything else, a devops job is better than nothing

It's SWE adjacent at least

[mental monolith]

oh no i'm going thru the hiring process rn

[vivid fiber]

Nah

Well tbh it really depends on the company

[mental monolith]

looking more into devops stuff rn, seems interesting but it's unlike what i've done in my previous SWE stuff

i have no idea what the interview/oa/technical is gonna be like

so it'll be fun

[vivid fiber]

Place I was at had me write everything from scripts, docker builds, teraform, ci/cd stuff, and some backend dev.

[mental monolith]

it seems like fun to me

what about pay? i looked up some companies on top of my head and their starting/median isn't too different from SWE (if at all)

ceiling seems to be somewhat lower but that doesn't matter for now

[candid oxide]

sre pay usually same as swe

[mental monolith]

so it sounds like depending on the company, there could be an overlap with backend stuff?

i'll be honest, atm i'm probably more into backend/fullstack stuff, so I'm curious if transitioning between devops to sdev (or vice versa) would be tricky

[vivid fiber]

Yes

But you won't be working on a lot of actual code, more like infrastructure and stuff

[mental monolith]

like if this works out, I wonder how hard it would be to go from 1yoe devops to some SDE position

[vivid fiber]

Most of my work was docker builds, ci/cd builds

[mental monolith]

that's probably my only concern

concern is a strong word

I'm sure there are good pathways for devops

[vivid fiber]

Yeah def good pathaways

I'm not sure how hard it is to go to SWE

But it's really infra related

[mental monolith]

👍 ty for the insight

[vapid latch]

anyone do the interview process with Ripple?

recruiter reached out

[worn moss]

reached out for summer?

[vapid latch]

ya

[analog current]

grats

[lunar sandal]

Could you reach out to them and tell em to reach out to me

[vivid fiber]

Just curious is it for RippleNet?

[vapid latch]

its for Ripple not RippleNet @vivid fiber

[vivid fiber]

RippleNet is a product of Ripple

They had specific eng positions on their site

[vapid latch]

o TIL

[storm sierra]

LMAO I have an interview tmr with a consultancy firm called 'Ripple Group'

g'luck on your interview with Ripple!

[ashen mason]

SRE at G can switch to SWE at any time

[vivid fiber]

I want some opinions on this

I have a friend who had an interview at a company for a SWE role on a specific team last Friday

They ended up ghosting him

Today he got a rejection for that role

But ended up getting an interview for another SWE role at the same company

He booked the availability

But should he ask his recruiter whats going on?

[turbid island]

it was 3 business days no

is that very long

[vivid fiber]

No like he had an interview on Friday

They never showed up

[turbid island]

oh

[vivid fiber]

Then they rejected him for the role

And now they are asking him to book a new interview

[oblique crater]

hmmm I say interview for the practice but I’m assuming hiring team is just incompetent so don’t expect too much

[worn moss]

sounds like he got picked for an interview at a different team etc.

[lucid berry]

ye this ^

[south rose]

Anyone here go from TN visa to Green Card?

[ripe crescent]

How long after a final interview should you reach out to the recruiter for a followup?

I had final interviews on the 16th. Is it time lmaooo

[worldly ridge]

1 - 2 week is i would say okay

[steel escarp]

some companies (e.g: ibm) has specific post for each position per team

so its kinda common to have multiple interviews for different team as long as u pass the resume screen or oa

👀

[vivid fiber]

No like he had an interview, recruiter never showed up

Then the recruiter rejected him, and sent him an interview form

[steel escarp]

it did happen but rare at ibm so technically its first come first serve kinda thing

after they fill the position they will send an email to reject others regardless of them having interviewed or not

i remember for my internship interview they told me that they would have couple more interviews the next week but they ended up giving me the offer the next day

so that's a possibility 👀

[vivid fiber]

Oh true that's prib it

[eternal fossil]

4 rejections today before 3 pm

https://www.tiktok.com/@opx420_/video/7102522376281263402?lang=en

[tranquil venture]

What's the average pay for swe coop at IBM?

Ok cool thanks!

[vivid fiber]

I think that's on the higher end

Iirc I was given an offer for like 21?

But that was 2 yrs ago so things may have changed

[steel escarp]

i think average for ibm now is 28-30

[wispy estuary]

hearing intern averages is sad 😢 , and I worked at a couple decently well known companies too

my co-op progression: $15 (8mo, research) -> $20 (8mo, defence) -> $25 (4mo, education)

[novel dome]

i thought IBM was a lot higher than that

[steel escarp]

I mean on the higher end u can get 35-37 if u get ibm blue or negotiate with them but most of the team already had a budget they use for hiring interns

Especially ibm software

[tight gale]

@steel escarp all the way down to 50k simp

[steel escarp]

Tuff life 😭

[eternal fossil]

@steel escarp

hows circle

[steel escarp]

I will start next week

[eternal fossil]

oh shit bless

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-gif-20971723

[vivid fiber]

Yo congrats 👏

[steel escarp]

❤️

[tight gale]

[foggy pasture]

bruh looking for roomates is tough

I am moving GTA for my internship and probably want to get somewhere near markham

If anyone interested do let me know

[foggy pasture]

No cap research pays less than minimum wage in my province

[magic perch]

Mine was 20 -> 24 -> 26 -> 30 -> 36 -> 89 -> and now 47 in full time (no return from last coop)

[ripe crescent]

Anyone interview with Guidewire?

[proud coyote]

how many months are ya looking for?

[foggy pasture]

12 months from May 2023 to end of April 2024

Wbu?

[proud coyote]

8 months from may-dec

[proud coyote]

I'll dm ya

[foggy pasture]

Kk

[proud coyote]

sent

[mental monolith]

wtf how many coops is that lmao

[stone moth]

do you recommend doing coop/internship with a prof/within the university for smtg like Data analysis for lets say ML project teh prof is working on

[vivid fiber]

Sounds pretty good to me

Esp if you can't get an internship elsewhere

[worn moss]

loo?

[magic perch]

UofT actually, just found stuff myself

[worn moss]

damn thats impressive af ngl

[worn moss]

try to do it part time so u can do it alongside school

thats what most ppl do when doing raships so that it doesnt count as an internship semester

[eternal fossil]

wya now

[reef iron]

7 internships UofT?

did u delay ur grad?

[wide prairie]

hey does google not even send OAs and just ghost u?

[worn moss]

bro any1 ever get a text from a company they never applied to?

[fickle juniper]

I’ve gotten a phone call from a company I never applied to

[ashen mason]

I don't think we do OAs

[oblique crater]

yeah I got an interview request from somewhere I never applied to, was very sus probably a scam or ask where they found your info

[analog current]

Do u mind pming me where ur 89 internship was

I will send u my home address if ur afraid of doxxing urself

[ripe crescent]

Anyone know what to expect for the TELUS GTLP Panel Interview?

[steel escarp]

i added to ws because when i file tax everything is automated 👀

[worldly ridge]

you guys didnt max out your TFSA on new years?

I did it during new years party after everyone kisses each other and there were fireworks

[steel escarp]

no he flexed the fact that he kissed some other guys 👀

[wheat comet]

If i dont have swe experience should my projects be above experience

[steel escarp]

well if u have ra/ta i do think the exp should be above projects

but if u work at mcdonald then projects > exp

[worldly ridge]

who said im in osap

[worldly ridge]

i wish you were there 50k ng simp

[steel escarp]

me too 😭

[hot rapids]

Does anyone know a ballpark of what Cisco pays for Canadian interns?

[ashen mason]

Rrsp deadline. Not tfsa. Tfsa is by calendar year

[worn moss]

depends on exp and location and team iirc

my friend was offered ~40/hr for data science

[hot rapids]

Thanks :)

[vapid latch]

isn’t it the RRSP

or RESP

one of the two

i don’t think TFSA has a deadline

[forest moss]

^

RRSP space carries over though right?

[ashen mason]

Yes. Same for TFSA.

[vapid latch]

tfsa goated

[ashen mason]

Ya probably should max tfsa before looking at rrsp

[wispy estuary]

wealthsimple made a pretty helpful guide

on what you should be investing in (based on your situation)

mm, no good way to paste the image lol, but if you scroll down (here: https://help.wealthsimple.com/hc/en-ca/articles/4406131141403-Should-I-put-money-in-a-TFSA-or-an-RRSP-) you'll see it

[tawny raptor]

imo non registered can make more sense than rrsp for some students

[analog current]

Yo

Friend got a new grad offer in the US

They don’t sponsor

Can he sponsor his own TN

[eternal fossil]

this is probably a case by case situation and they need to talk to a immigration lawyer of some sort

because if they try to get TN at the border and get denied itll be a bad time for them

[tight gale]

Thank you, dumped all into zoocoin

[real storm]

anyone have any tesla connects?

[crimson kernel]

I've heard ~24 from people I know who worked at our local IBM office. not a high income area though here

[hallow urchin]

U can max it out at anytime tho right
Idk why ppl are in a rush to max it out since it always carries

[worldly ridge]

yea

because in normal market conditions u get cha ching + power of compound interest :3

[hallow urchin]

Wait WDYM 😔
ur investing in TFSA ur not guaranteed to make cha ching
and it's stocks that ppl mostly but so no interest there

but ig u can buy other financial things with compound interest yea

[hallow urchin]

dude wait isn't RRSP deducted from my pay along with CPP and taxes
I'm so confused

why would I contribute to it

[worldly ridge]

peopel usualy buy ETFs in a TFSA, it gains compount interests

so it can fund their retriement

but u can also put things like GICs if u wanna save up for a downpayment without getting taxed

[worldly ridge]

the gov incentivizes you to put into retirement, you get taxed less if you do so

so for example u can do 100k and get taxed 40k because u made no rrsp coontributions, but u can make 100k and get taxed only 20k becasue u put say 20k into rrsp

thats all there is to it in tax sheltered accounts in canada, we will have a new FHSA program for home buyers but it can be used for RRSP room if u dont need a house. coming in april 1 iirc

[hallow urchin]

so as an intern, should I put money in my RRSP
cuz it's already being deducted from my pay so even if I do nothing, I'll gradually pay less taxes over the years

OMG I'm so dumb

I mixed up employment insurance (EI) with RRSP

I'm a clown

thanks tho yakhuna

Do u think interns can do RRSP matching

[worldly ridge]

the question if u should put into rrsp or not depends your goals (do u need the money asap for a house or loan or sumtin, etc) . but generaly the advice is to always put it into a rrsp because u want the compound interest and tax deductions 🙂

[worldly ridge]

Haha I wish T_T

[hallow urchin]

According to the wealth simple chart above, I should max my tfsa

so I'll do that ig
then do rrsp shit when I have more money idk
ok sounds good
Gnbroz

[worldly ridge]

yeah defo do tfsa first if ur making intern money since ur probs not at a high tax bracket

it will carry over anyway

oh look at here, mr i have a 500k condo in harborfront

you dont need to, your already ballingkid

wdym u always lived in harborffrotn

oh wait u told me u moved to yougne and dundas

[hallow urchin]

everones poor unless if they have a million dollars in investments 👍

I feel like u can live as a new grad in some nice place, but after rent and utilities and taxes and other costs, u only take home like 2k per month to save

[worldly ridge]

you shouldve staye din montreal

ontario does not want you back

[worldly ridge]

sorry @weak gazelle I dont make nearly as much as you so you know more than me

Your t slip mustve been a lot, u make like 300k TC

[ashen mason]

Yea can max it whenever

[ashen mason]

It's a little different than this. If you make 100k and contribute 20k to rrsp, you would get taxed on 80k of income.

Some people say to not even worry about RRSP until you make good money because the tax rate at higher income is much higher. The idea is you want to withdraw that money out when you are making less money (e.g. retired) so it's taxed at a lower rate.

There's also the provincial brackets which are smaller but still relevant

[sleek echo]

hey guys. I want to know: is the job market in canada as bad as in the us right now???? cause the job market in the us is like HELL right now. Even the most experienced candidates are spending months being ghosted and the interview processes is getting worse. It's really the worse time to live in the US

[worthy fjord]

same issue here as well lol

i saw like 1000+ applicants for the most random startups some are unpaid too lol

[sleek echo]

no way

so we are DOOMED

[worthy fjord]

yea there's prolly students here aiming for the US coops as well so it makes it worse

[raw ocean]

pls market alive

[knotty nova]

oyasumj punpun pfp?

[raw ocean]

had really good interview according to recruiter, but role got closed, should I ask to interview for another role (still swe)?

[lucid berry]

yuh

[eternal fossil]

Hi guys I need some opinions

This one tech recruiting agency hit me up

New grad Cisco role for embedded but they offered 70k which is probably after they take their cut

Gotta relocate

Is it worth ?

I thought Cisco paid decent

[worldly ridge]

ayy congrats!!

honestly i would take it and if ur realy unsatisfied keep job searching

market is so 💩

[eternal fossil]

Ok I’ll take a deeper look into it

😭

70k for a whole ass move bruh

[worldly ridge]

where do u ahve to mocve

whats the base too?

60k base 10k rsu?

[eternal fossil]

70k and that’s it

I think recruiting agency is eating the rsu

Or any other funds

They’re the ones fucking the offer

[vapid latch]

theyre jealous

dont worry about it

[eternal fossil]

Mood

[vapid latch]

ya theyre just mad

[eternal fossil]

Assholes

[worldly ridge]

the problem is this countrys expensive t_t

sorry mr i have a pent house in harborfront

SAY IT

I SAW THAT

👁️

[eternal fossil]

Yeah living alone in kanata is fine if I were getting paid MORE

[eternal fossil]

Omg no way

it’s not supposed to be 5 CAD

LMAO

[worldly ridge]

i bet u buy a dozen of egggs for 12 dolalrs

[eternal fossil]

Yes

Mood

Ima squeeze more money out the tech recruiters

Bc this is stupid

I know they’re taking a nice 15-20k off the tops

I know Cisco pays decent

Or atleast I thought they do

[raw ocean]

i need god's hand to help me get a job

[hallow urchin]

@sleek echo just gotta tatakae thru it eren

[vivid fiber]

https://youtu.be/xpVfcZ0ZcFM

[hallow urchin]

man I'm getting fugged for summer internship
has anyone had success with companies lately?

I got OAs in January and nothing after that

[eternal fossil]

Apparently they’re hiring aggressively for next quarter

I’m not sure

But that’s what 2 recruiters told me

[hallow urchin]

where at

also, im not seeing many good companies even hiring rn
Guidewire is one the few that seemed decent

drw was cool too but it seemed like they only took Montreal ppl
same with Lyft Montreal

[vivid fiber]

Have u checked the repo?

[hallow urchin]

Queens repo yes

[vivid fiber]

Rec Room, Mercury, SAP, Kabam

They all r still hiring i tink

[hallow urchin]

I start there first, then pitsscs repo thing for USA, then my own LinkedIn searches then r/uwaterloo thread

Yes Kabam, rec room reject, mercury no response, sap I skipped I think

Fun fun fun

[vivid fiber]

If you find any internships please open a pr

I'm not even recruiting for intern 😭

I already hav a job

[hallow urchin]

Dude I think about it but then I'm already in a crunch for time applying to places so I'm like fuck it

for PRs

[vivid fiber]

Fair enuf

I'm thinking of making a website

I made 1 for da ng list

https://github.com/coderQuad/New-Grad-Positions-2023/pull/168

They closed it

Saying they were planning on making one

Which they never did...

Also they stopped maintaining it

[hallow urchin]

Who are those ppl?

I thought u ran the queens compsa thing

But tbh the GitHub format works fine for me. It's simple enough

[vivid fiber]

This was a list for new grad

[vivid fiber]

Yeah but I think a site with search + filtering would be nice

[hallow urchin]

I guess

For me I just go to the bottom and check out all of them one by one

but some are crummy random positions so it'd be maybe good to be able to filter those out

but currently it's perfect for me. Search an filters give me anxiety

[vivid fiber]

Ye thats the idea

[vivid fiber]

Well both would exist

The site would use the readme as a data source

[hallow urchin]

Yea fasho

[nocturne flame]

@vivid fiber is there a ng list?

[vivid fiber]

For Canada?

Nah

Afaik

[boreal sentinel]

i love when someone says that to me; its so funny and i usually start dancing around them

https://tenor.com/view/dance-kevin-james-gif-8926781

[tawny raptor]

Lyft was quebec residents only iirc

Drw is grad date screen

[tawny raptor]

Cisco?

[tawny raptor]

Was told mercury is now closed to new applicants

[eternal fossil]

Just a few roles

[hallow urchin]

Mine was 2024 and got interview and still reject
same with bunch of other ppl

[vivid fiber]

Nvm then

[ancient tartan]

anyone know any international student friend that have experience in declining a signed offer?

the only downside of reneging is the company probably won’t interview you again?

is there any possibility that the coop officer in your school revoke the coop work permit

[vivid fiber]

My intl friend reneged but it wasn't through the school

[ancient tartan]

ic, I didn't told the school and submit the offer letter in school's coop system

but I'm wondering will the hr report to the coop officer

since during the background check process, they asked for my coop letter(include the information of my coop officer

[oblique crater]

school can’t revoke your coop work permit

they can kick you out of coop though

[ancient tartan]

I'm a master student, so I can still finish the first coop?

[steel escarp]

coop wp is useless without being in the coop program

[oblique crater]

idk man best to contact your university or coop officer directly

why do you need coop program in a master’s degree?

[ancient tartan]

I'm an international student and need the local work experience

The Co-op office's interest lies in the school's reputation, while the students' interest lies in finding better internships. I believe there is some conflict between these two interests.

Therefore, I am hesitant to communicate this issue directly with them, in case they try to prevent me from declining my RBC offer if they were to find out about it.

[steel escarp]

FYI international students can work ft this year as long as they meet some of the requirements

so if ur intl i think coop program is kinda useless this year

[steel escarp]

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2022/10/international-students-to-help-address-canadas-labour-shortage.html

[ancient tartan]

Google

[ashen mason]

Do you know what team?

[ancient tartan]

The team is under Google Cloud

[ashen mason]

I'm FT in cloud, u can dm me questions. don't know much abt co op tho

but in ur situation I think anyone u talk to will be understanding of reneging for google. just communicate with ur co op office?

[ripe crescent]

Definitely talk to your school about what options you have. If you're able to maintain your work visa, even without being in the co-op program, then I think the renege is worth it imo.

If you being out of the co-op program affects your visa/ability to work in general tho then idkkkkk

Or maybe your school won't care about the renege in this instance n will keep you in the program regardless lol.

[ancient tartan]

hmmm I think the new policy should work for Google, since I will just enroll one placement course in the summer term, and I can work over 20hours per week

[ancient tartan]

tyty

[ancient tartan]

so whatever I should talk with the coop officers first? ye, somewhat make sense

ye

icic

but I still need to be registered as a fulltime student in summer, right?

[lunar sandal]

Wait.. ur not a ft student in summer

If u don’t take any courses

unless ur doing a coop term

[ancient tartan]

okay, McMaster master program need I enroll one placement course at least to be registered as a ft student

[lunar sandal]

Ohhh

I c

[ancient tartan]

you mean the scheduled break for most undergraduate student?

ic, that's different for master student

I still have to enroll one placement course but have nothing to do

[lunar sandal]

Take a bird course

[oblique crater]

how did you get the open work permit? pgwp?

you need to be working fulltime for that 1 year to start counting

no

not even close lmao you’re counting the PR time too?

honestly idk immigration is complicated here so many different streams

it might be different since you’re not in express entry

[oblique crater]

you’re spoiled for options

they’re both bad

[vivid fiber]

down bad

yes

[oblique crater]

definitely the best way to land a job ^

[barren sinew]

TN requires citizenship not just PR as far I know

[worldly ridge]

Yeha you need citizenship

safe route is canada -> tn -> marry a us citizen

im basing my assumption that most people get married

or maybe yuoull like canada more 🙂

[ripe crescent]

Has anyone ever done a DevSkiller test? What should I expect for the multiple choice/formal section in terms of questions?

[ancient tartan]

caseware?

[ancient tartan]

just some questions about Java and 3 easy coding problems

[ripe crescent]

TJX

[foggy pasture]

Hey, if you gonna work over summer then you don’t need work permit. Study permit allows full time work over spring and summer.

[worldly ridge]

Is it just me or did CAD icnrease their TC by alot in the past year in terms of median

https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/levels/entry-level/locations/greater-toronto-area

I swear the median was like 70-low 80s last year; now its 96! I also remember /r/cscareerquestionscad to say 70k is prety avg and good last year💀

but I might be trippin

[eternal fossil]

could be fluff

because i havent seen these wages offered

wiley still out here paying 65k for their open roles

got lowballed yesterday at 70

canadian employers milking tf out of people lmao

bag of chips out here $5

[worldly ridge]

bruh ikr

[eternal fossil]

gotta hit up shoppers for the weekend egg and bread sales

ridiculous

[worldly ridge]

grocery has went up a lot 😴

[tawny zephyr]

any high schoolers got RBC summer tech labs OA

🥲

[worldly ridge]

you might be the only one here in this server besides @slender silo

[tawny zephyr]

no ik theres more

like way more

u have no idea

[slender silo]

Who the hell is RBC

[tawny zephyr]

bruh

[slender silo]

Royal bank of Canada?

[tawny zephyr]

bro u live in canada?

how do u not know RBC

[slender silo]

.

[tawny zephyr]

yes

[slender silo]

Send link, I’ll play

[tawny zephyr]

play??

[slender silo]

Apply

[tawny zephyr]

jus search up rbc summer tech labs

[slender silo]

But yeah it’s just a game for me

So I guess I’ll play

[tawny zephyr]

damn so u'll get it 100%?

[slender silo]

whats da criteria

[tawny zephyr]

grade 11 or 12

ontario student

work auth in canada

[slender silo]

I am a vancouverite

Also takes time out of making my operating system 😎

Yes I’m flexing 😎

[tawny zephyr]

bros yet to be humbled

[slender silo]

I don’t know what that means 😎

[tawny zephyr]

u'll 1 day

well goodluck

if u get the OA lmk

[worldly ridge]

LOL

SINCE WHEN

IS TD HITTING 6 FIGS NOW

💀

my friend got in with ~70k-80k TC last year IIRC

same with scotia and RBC 💀

man time to job hop

[tawny zephyr]

what

@worldly ridge

need a sugar baby

😭

[worldly ridge]

i have nepotism

[tawny zephyr]

do u need a sugar baby

[worldly ridge]

no

[tawny zephyr]

if u ever do

hit me up

plz

I need someone to pay my college tuitions

💀

[worldly ridge]

mfer u have a mansion in cali

[tawny zephyr]

no I dont

[worldly ridge]

🧢

[tawny zephyr]

a mansion here probs costs upwards of 5 mil

what do they do

💀

mf

if I dont want smth

I wont buy it

tf

bruh what

💀

[worldly ridge]

bolt employees driving median salary up

maybe theres a lot of unemployed entry level grads rn

n the ones with the high tc stay

n report to elvels

[oblique crater]

@worldly ridge give me a breakdown of your 250k TC

[worldly ridge]

1k base, 249k RSUs

i live wild

[oblique crater]

i’m serious please i can’t keep living like a peasant

dozen of eggs is too expensive for me to broke

[worldly ridge]

shri has a 500k condo

are you doing NG @oblique crater

🧢

harborfront waste ytue

🤮

rather go homeless

🤮

i hated every suburb here including waterloo

[oblique crater]

yeah

[worldly ridge]

sending , u got dis

[steel escarp]

i thought they have some legal stuff with forever21

[slender silo]

Lmao just make a shitty app and put it on the play store

[tawny zephyr]

damn did it work for u

[slender silo]

no

I FOSS everything

[oblique crater]

thank you, I have a job rn thankfully

[tawny raptor]

Bolt is nice

Same pay as cali for remote canada

4 day work week

High salaries

Only issue is the layoffs and hiring freeze

[fickle juniper]

Wait really wow

By same pay do u mean u get usd?

[tawny raptor]

Believe so

Or converted to cad at exchange rate

Idk if they got good future prospects tho

But yeah they pay the same regardless of location

[fickle juniper]

That’s actually nuts, do u know any other companies that do this?

[tawny raptor]

None to that extent

[vivid fiber]

Isnt it a dying company?

[tawny raptor]

.

[vivid fiber]

oops lol missed dat

no new grads afaik

i think they used to do interns, but havent seen them recruit interns in like the last 2~3 yrs

[outer shadow]

hey guys i got a hackerrank for IBM, does anyone know what i can expect or like a bank for their hackerrank questions ?

[worldly ridge]

Yo @outer shadow you hopping from Optiver?

[ripe crescent]

What position/location?

[normal jetty]

Array /string questions

[outer shadow]

technical support developer in markham

intern^

[outer shadow]

hahaha im just a shit poster man

[boreal sentinel]

lovely day to kiss some maple trees and build a snowman

https://tenor.com/view/elisa-tree-baum-love-hug-gif-20785647

[echo latch]

gm

[lucid berry]

gm

[sudden spruce]

gm

[earnest mortar]

mf is in optiver?

[steel escarp]

plz notice me mr optiver 😭

[worldly ridge]

shopify

[lunar sandal]

NA's only saving grace is when it has foreign players, what a joke that they peaked at DAC 2015

[worldly ridge]

we need 5 sumail's

in a team

[worldly ridge]

its over

[lunar sandal]

i think they just lost from draft

unluck.

and common NA L.

[wheat comet]

Hey guys, id appreciate if some of you could take a quick look at this part of my resume. I was wondering if it needs to shrink or if my second experience is worth keeping instead of a project. Thanks! https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/1081690878239850526

[mental monolith]

@worldly ridge @lunar sandal what rank are u guys

trying to get out of herald kek

[lunar sandal]

i was 5k in 2018, came back now i keep getting banned

[mental monolith]

what the fuck

[chilly kayak]

Hihi we just launched in Product Hunt https://www.producthunt.com/posts/zeeno-ai I would LOVE if you could upvote and comment (and even spread to your friends) -made w love at UBC ❤️

[mental monolith]

im trying to abuse the fuck out of techies before it gets nerfed next week

[lunar sandal]

techies is not broken

but in your bracket, anything is broken

[mental monolith]

the good thing in my bracket is no one really abuses the hero

[lunar sandal]

also are u queueing NA region?

[mental monolith]

most of them don't know they could rightclick proximity mines

yeah

usw mostly

[lunar sandal]

yea climbing shudnt be too hard then

[mental monolith]

usualy 2-3 stack with my friends

i did solo q in SEA before i came to canada for uni

it was hell

[lunar sandal]

SEA is never give up land

[mental monolith]

started ranked far too early, like within the first 20 hours or so

calibrated to 400 lmfao

and just never left ever since

[lunar sandal]

dw when i was 12 i calibrated to 800

[mental monolith]

mood

god i feel old

[lunar sandal]

im stuck in purgatory now

[mental monolith]

seems to be working though 😎

[lunar sandal]

valve banned new accounts

[mental monolith]

what, LP?

[lunar sandal]

and i cant get back into my main account

so each time it sees me it links somehow to my main and bans me

[mental monolith]

ive never heard anyone getting hard banned in dota

tf

[lunar sandal]

u cant smurf anymore

[mental monolith]

linking phone is pretty easy to spoof though?

how do they even link the profiles

hwid?

[lunar sandal]

more than just phone

ye

hwid

and ip

[mental monolith]

just buy new ssd lmfao

grab an identical drive from amazon

copy over and return

hahahaha

[lunar sandal]

thats not rlly worth

[mental monolith]

yeah im jk but that kinda sucks huh

[lunar sandal]

it does, but idm too much

i wish i felt even 1/4th as strongly about anything else as i did for the game lol

[mental monolith]

mood man

used to (and now starting to) be my escape

shitty day in hs -> go home/do hw -> dota
now:
delete rejection emails -> apply to a few more/do a few LC -> dota

it's the same shit i swear

[lunar sandal]

[lunar sandal]

just even with LC

if u lose mid in a hard matchup that shits etched into ur mind

[worldly ridge]

i used to play a lot when i was a wee lad

i stopped playing and watch dota games now though

[lunar sandal]

with LC i just go editorial and cringe that i couldnt think of it myself in time

[worldly ridge]

bruhh same

@mental monolith @lunar sandal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZYgqBp1gI

[mental monolith]

i still need more practice with lc but man

cant be assed after completing grind75

[worldly ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pTUsqslXHc&t=68s

[mental monolith]

i left the hard questions lmao didnt wanna bother with them

[lunar sandal]

the thing is LC is 100001012301203102302103X better in temrs of ROI

but its not the same dopamine boost

wcy

[mental monolith]

what is your vice now

lol

[lunar sandal]

d

[worldly ridge]

im playign dragon age origins and watch movies everyday now

[mental monolith]

one of them makes me happy and the other one induces depression
i won't say which one is which

[mental monolith]

still job hunting?

[worldly ridge]

nahh i already have a job 😓

[mental monolith]

that's sick man

🎉

[worldly ridge]

good luck on yours ❤️

you can grind more dota after the job

no more LC t_t

[mental monolith]

not really grinding dota, it's just what i usually do after 9pm

trying to not think about job/lc during the weekend

otherwise it's not really a break hahaha

[worldly ridge]

yeah i feel u, job hunting is literaly another job

[mental monolith]

tax return money just came in so that means i can stay in canada unemployed for a bit longer 😎

[mental monolith]

this's why i'm somewhat hesitant with the devops+relocating thing i talked about a few days ago

if i still wanna go swe and will be job hunting when i work that job

it's going to suck

[worldly ridge]

ooof yeah

dev ops is a different beast

[lunar sandal]

how do u even go into devops

[mental monolith]

i got a referral

[lunar sandal]

i hear stuff abt kubernetes and docker but legit got no fucking idea where to start

[mental monolith]

probably shouldnt say where since the job posting isnt even up yet

but it doesnt pay extraordinarily well

so i'm hesitant

[lunar sandal]

did u have prev exp?

like w projects

[mental monolith]

yeah i feel like these things are kinda hard to just pick up on your own with 0 exp/tiny projects

no i dont

[lunar sandal]

isnt dev just abt containerized apps

[mental monolith]

thats why i was surprised when i got invited for the "casual chat"

[lunar sandal]

just cuz

it sounds boring af tho ngl

[mental monolith]

the resume i sent in was literally test automation + frontend + backend in that order

[worldly ridge]

i did it with probjects and i enver hated anything so much

t_t

[mental monolith]

i have no idea why they wanted me in

any recs on how to start?

i've seen some youtube vids but that's about it

and a bit during my last coop

link it if you could?

if it's not too much it might be worth it

[lunar sandal]

why

[mental monolith]

✨ investment ✨

oh yeah

went through some linkedin learning stuff

it's all very surface level

40 isn't bad

and i could finally fill out that funny "certification" section

haha

is this more devops oriented or swe?

sorry if stupid question

[lunar sandal]

but this is like

IT

man

fucq

which one dou recommend

from that link

certified dev? or solutions arch

[mental monolith]

i'm guessing this one?

yeah same question as fiend

i'll just take it, i don't have much to do rn

further education :DD

i should check if i have aws credits from ubc

https://education.github.com/pack nope no aws :(

gotcha, ty

cc @lunar sandal

given that i have literally nothing to do rn i could probably attempt the dev one

alright

thanks man 🙏

[lunar sandal]

++

[mental monolith]

actually @safe light (sorry for ping)

in your opinion, for a NG looking for a first job

instead of AWS, do you have anything better in mind that I should know as an entry level SWE?

[tight gale]

I'm not sure if that cert actually helps

I'm in aws and first time I've seen that

[mental monolith]

oooo

what would you recommend then?

in aws as in amazon aws, or working on aws primarily?

[tight gale]

Amazon aws

[mental monolith]

ah

[tight gale]

Just have decent resume with coop or projects and practice leetcode

[mental monolith]

i just thought having some certs on my profile would help somewhat

not that i have anything better to do rn anyway

[tight gale]

You can use that time for project if you are missing that

[mental monolith]

alright then

thanks!

[tight gale]

I'm sure a cert wouldn't hurt but it's just the efficacy I'm not sure of

[mental monolith]

yeah i get that, that's why i've asked a few places

that seems to be the common consensus though

[steel escarp]

how's life

[tight gale]

Not bad

Still here somehow

I think my G offer will time out

[steel escarp]

Thats bad

Didnt G stop the hiring freeze stuff?

[tight gale]

Yes but no

There's no "freeze" but like no one is getting updates or offers

Every update is "wait next month"

[steel escarp]

Did u follow up w them? I heard G japan just laid off so i can imagine the G layoff is spreading out

[tight gale]

Yes

My recruiter just keeps telling me to wait

At this point I'll be senior engineer by the time I get in

[steel escarp]

Good thing u still have a contact point 🤣 imagine ur recruiter gets laid off

[steel escarp]

How many yoe do u have again?

2?

[tight gale]

I'm close to 1

[steel escarp]

I think l4 is at least 3 yoe?

[tight gale]

I am joking

[steel escarp]

Im sure there r still better companies in us is hiring lmao

But it sounds like ur team is safe at aws so i wouldnt take big risks lol

[tight gale]

Yep

No layoffs at aws

The upside of retention issues

[steel escarp]

Cant u use ur G offer for other sub company of google?

Like waymo and stuff?

👀

[tight gale]

No probably not

[steel escarp]

Dang i heard G is investing AI stuff so i would assume there must be open spots in their ai lab

Like deepmind and stuff

[tight gale]

Yea just throw me in deepmind

[steel escarp]

[lunar sandal]

are u ng?

[tight gale]

Not anymore

I was last year

[storm sierra]

how competitive is docker as a skill?

seems a lot more for cloud-based roles, from what I've surmised, but for something like a software dev/data engineer intern role, I'm not sure how good it looks on a resume

[mental monolith]

also curious

[topaz linden]

I think it’s considered a learn it if you need it thing and not necessarily something that’s seen as impressive

Of course I could be wrong, but just my thoughts

[fickle juniper]

Docker is just meh, k8s will help u stand out for certain roles tho

[storm sierra]

kk, thanks for the info

[lunar sandal]

so many fucking things

[steel escarp]

Idk too much of docker 👀 i just copy and paste the docker image online 🤣

[analog current]

They layed off an entire AI research office in Canada

[steel escarp]

Actually? I thought they wanna compete w ms

[kind jasper]

@mental monolith there's kind of a path of them that are recommended (at least by AWS people, at the AWS Summit)... the first/easiest one is Cloud Practitioner (once you complete that one you get a coupon for a discount on the exam on the next one, and, they suggest doing it anyway even if you can pass a more skilled one because it gets you familiar with their testing format, setup, style of questions, etc.), then there's the Associate level ones, then the Professional level, then Specialty. The amount of study/prep expected goes up as you get the higher ones.

I've personally only done the Cloud Practitioner one, because, I didn't have time to study anything (I'm already doing an MBA, and, working, have young kids, etc. lots and lots going on) and that one I passed with zero prep/studying/whatever (just having used AWS normally for years prior and looking at the guide of what it covered), the ones beyond that, I'm not quite so sure about (they seemed to ask more particulars) and I probably wouldn't attempt cold without at least some prep (they touch on things I don't use in AWS regularly already)

the AWS people themselves (at least the ones that go to the summit and talk to people about the certifications) get all the certifications (so they can be informed about what they're talking about), it takes them less time than you'd think (starting at a week or two, even with no prior AWS experience at all, and, going up from there)

[mental monolith]

Hmm i see

Thanks!

[oblique crater]

the deepmind office in edmonton shut down

[steel escarp]

Nuuuuu sadge

[worldly ridge]

dude your never geting into faang

[tawny zephyr]

yahkuni matadi is CEO of google

watch yourself

[worldly ridge]

BROO WHAT THE FUCK

LOL

just assw this from an old discord tab 💀

[mental monolith]

if it works it works

[worldly ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/burying-dying-dead-grave-gif-17189345

i used to be a sniper spammer back when it was meta at 2015 or sumtin

[mental monolith]

lmaooo

[lunar sandal]

jesus

[merry shoal]

Anyone know col in Calgary?

[steel escarp]

@timid tartan told me its really high 👀

[steel escarp]

i hate 12 months so personally i'd go with 4

bell is a pretty decent name as well

[hazy heath]

what is considered an "above average salary" for an intern in Canada?

excluding faang

[humble mural]

has anyone heard anything from cibc?

[merry shoal]

fml, I was told that the company I was interested was going to be ok with remote but then was told that they still haven't got some of the stuff setup so they prefer in person for the start at least :/

im trying to save money out here

[steel escarp]

which company tho

[merry shoal]

I'd rather not say bc of privacy but im not software I have preference for hardware/embedded lol im graduating from engineering not CS

they prefer in person since it's hardware

[steel escarp]

either synopsys or cisco 👀

anyway

[knotty nova]

Are u moving from another province to calgary

[steel escarp]

my monthly expense is around 1k

including housing

so 🤷‍♂️

[merry shoal]

I'm from Toronto, was planning on moving back in with my mom after I graduate so I can save some money

[knotty nova]

thats tuff

[merry shoal]

im currently paying about that for my place in ontario for uni but my goal was to work in toronto so I can pay 0$ and have my mom cook for me (: there is another place I have an onsite for that is in toronto and hybrid for a software position that includes some embedded but this position in calgary looks more interesting to me

I guess ill ride it out and see what happens, if I go to calgary it would prob only be for a year or so to get experience and do stuff that is interesting for me will be nice to buff up my resume then I try to move somewhere else

[steel escarp]

is it 4 months?

calgary is super nice during summer

not winter tho 👀

[merry shoal]

im graduating in may

[steel escarp]

i might want to run asap when the winter comes

[merry shoal]

it's new grad position

[merry shoal]

yeah, in ontario on friday there was a snow storm so bad

[steel escarp]

i mean nothing stop u finding a new job after 4months working in a company 👀

[merry shoal]

winter is making me depressed , I used to like snow as a kid but now I just want out

[steel escarp]

oh toronto's snow storm is nothing compared to calgary

[merry shoal]

yeah but i would rather stay a bit longer so i get proper experience plus finding 4 month lease is hard

[steel escarp]

during dec/jan it can go down to as low as -35 C degree

if u work onsite

gl

[merry shoal]

im still not set on calgary I have to see how my other offers pan out but I know that so far this job just seems like a good learning experience

[merry shoal]

ripperoni

they said it could be hybrid

[knotty nova]

that is messed up

[steel escarp]

all i can say is gl if u gotta go to the office

🤣

[merry shoal]

I'd prob try to find a roommate but i'm guessing most people only want 4 months, maybe a one year

[steel escarp]

🤷‍♂️

u can find a room for a year

then sublease it

after u leave

its an option

[merry shoal]

wish I could visit calgary before I decide but im too poor to justify that, but looking at prices maybe I will actually just try to lean towards the software position if it goes well. I denied all my other offers because they gave me no time to decide and also one of them was really low pay lol but maybe I should keep applying. waiting back for a few company OAs but I just assume they ghosted I heard they take forever

if I could go back in time I'd graduate a year ago 🥲

[steel escarp]

look at the bright side

tax is way lower in calgary

compared to ontario

[merry shoal]

true

[wispy estuary]

you could ask if they have a relocation fund?

My work gives me $2k for moving expenses, and covers a trip to house hunt (flight + accomodations) if needed

[timid tartan]

-_-

[steel escarp]

shut up

[merry shoal]

I could try yeah thanks for the idea

[tranquil venture]

Did anyone give Amazon OA?

For sde

[steel escarp]

new grad?

👀

i heard they freeze hiring ng?

[tranquil venture]

Nope
Intern

[steel escarp]

damn they still hiring intern?

👀

i thought they have bunch of waitlisted

[merry shoal]

i got a working styles assessment thing from them

[tawny raptor]

2023 intern oas not done yet?

[tight gale]

Hello canadians anyone hiring

[vivid fiber]

Texas Instruments

For ng

[tight gale]

I'll take a look thanks, looking for a friend

[eternal fossil]

ya

TI sends out med-hard for LC tho

so

must be good

[vivid fiber]

my friend got easies lol

[eternal fossil]

oh

i got unlucky i guess

🤣

[vivid fiber]

he got easies for the oa and the interview

actually mayb a med for the interview

[eternal fossil]

did he get job

[vivid fiber]

ye

[tight gale]

Nice gz

[eternal fossil]

nice

[ripe crescent]

Has anyone heard back from CGI after final team interviews?

[oblique crater]

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3516518480/?alternateChannel=search&refId=TkYP%2B%2B8r%2B5cncjDL5OpoAQ%3D%3D&trackingId=hRoyJqk3GZt1dTJ2oT%2F2pg%3D%3D&trk=d_flagship3_jobs_discovery_jymbii

[eternal fossil]

wtf is this lol

photo of what? my cock ?

[mental monolith]

Please attach a picture of your cock

[eternal fossil]

these hiring practices are unreal now lol

[mental monolith]

Or a cute rabbit idk

[eternal fossil]

actually ima do that

[mental monolith]

One of them is more likely to help u get hired

Wont say which

[eternal fossil]

gonna attach this

[marsh thorn]

is it just me

or is there not nearly as much internships in this country to apply to

as the US

like this job market is brutal

[wispy estuary]

normal

US has tons and tons of mid-sized companies

[marsh thorn]

I'm having zero luck at all

and I've applied to 50 jobs

[ashen mason]

this seems low

[marsh thorn]

I'm in first year

and a lot of internships explicitly someone in 4th or 3rd

🤷

[tawny raptor]

you can still try applying

50 does seem low assuming you mean for summer tho

[ashen mason]

being first year probably makes it harder too yea

is internship after 1st year normal?

[marsh thorn]

I even lied and said I'm graduating in 2025

[marsh thorn]

only summer yes

also does anyone have any success with the Youth Summer Jobs Bank?

[tawny raptor]

at some schools

[worldly ridge]

Hello @analog current ! I would like you to meet my new friend I hope you guys can get along and have a wonderufl friendhsip!

[marsh thorn]

bruh

[vivid fiber]

We're 1/10th of the population lol

So ye it's normal

[vivid fiber]

Idk who told u 2 lie, but it's rong and unethical

/jk

[marsh thorn]

like when I'm in second year

do I still tell people I'm graduating in 2025?