canada

[wispy estuary]

Bonjour, je suis baguette

[eternal fossil]

i know french

vous le vous couche se soi avec moi

this will certainly get me the job

or a rejection

[valid schooner]

Doesn’t that mean will I sleep with me?

[vapid latch]

YO RIGHT?

is it just me

why is there a thousand quebec postings

[edgy rose]

Yeah and they are the ones with the fewest applicants too

[boreal sentinel]

sauga 🤮

[edgy rose]

Need to start grinding Duolingo as well as leetcode now

[grave quest]

isnt that avg ish for otornopt

[eternal fossil]

you almost had me

[lunar sandal]

curious, what year r u in?

[lucid berry]

Yeah, they do, pls don't apply in QC

[hallow urchin]

anyone do intact hackerrank?

[lunar sandal]

I didn’t even hear back from em

[vapid latch]

anyone got the instawork OA?

they want u to build a fullstack django app

[edgy rose]

How many leetcode do yall do a day

[raven sphinx]

0

[raven sphinx]

dawg hows summer hunt goin

[lunar sandal]

0 offers

[raven sphinx]

🫂 its still early

[lunar sandal]

gg

[hallow urchin]

how come

[hallow urchin]

lmao i was gonna apply to them but its 8 months
have fun with the django app
actually maybe chatgpt will come clutch

[vapid latch]

i am dreading the django app

;-;

and yea 8 months

i applied cause why not

[hallow urchin]

fr use chatgpt for it 👿

[vapid latch]

💀

[worn moss]

https://uwaterloo.ca/co-operative-education/about-co-op/co-op-earnings its the avg for the 5th one

idt the avg would significantly change if it was just cs

[vapid latch]

anyone do phone screen with Slalom Build

[echo latch]

hmmm idk about 4th it's more 5th now tbh

with companies clamping down on only hiring juniors or seniors

unless you lie about your grad date ofc

could've been one of the cool kids if banana let me do US back during my 4th coop

[mental monolith]

fuck

[worn moss]

ik a geomatics kid that landed google swe cali 3rd coop

[merry crystal]

yeah thats swe

im talking about a geography related coop

[edgy rose]

how can a company reject you at 3 am in the morning lol

[echo latch]

They prolly run a cron job or something lol

It’s automated

[lucid berry]

[edgy rose]

Yeah I figured. They disliked the application so much, they chose to reject me when Im asleep lol

[ripe crescent]

good luck 2 everyone doing this today!!!! keeping my fingers crossed!!!

[muted portal]

anyone else without an internship yet lol

3rd year

[echo latch]

It’s rough for everyone just keep at it

[stone moth]

Any luck with TN (usmca) visa with a non-engineering degree

Lets say a CS degree

[vivid fiber]

You don't need an eng degree for TN

Afaik

[stone moth]

But isn't the only CS related title is system architect something

Otherwise if it says "engineer" in the JD you need an actual engineering degree

Yeah ofc most swe positions are occupied by non eng folks but idk from immigration point of view

[fickle juniper]

It’s actually the opposite, if ur hoping to get a TN for a software eng role, it’s often insufficient to have an unrelated engineering degree

for example if u have a chemical engineering degree and want to work as a software engineer

Or ig “at the discretion” of the border official, but that’s sketchy cuz they can also ding ur immigration record if they reject u

[drifting shore]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/972617781910597682/1068322551828316251/1066097230299287572.gif

[stone moth]

so a CS degree => swe job is good ?

[fickle juniper]

Yes

[stone moth]

🤡 I do enjoy hardware too but a deciding factor for me to go into engineering (instead if CS ) was TN visa

[vivid fiber]

Nah it's not necessary

I kno a few ppl who got TN with a cs degree

[wispy estuary]

depends more on the company more than the location tbh

[oblique crater]

it’s still kinda up to the officer some of them might give you a hard time

[stone moth]

time to switch major ig 😂

[vapid latch]

80k+?

[oblique crater]

idk if your name is ironic or not

[vapid latch]

if u want to be able to live

[oblique crater]

lol you can live on 50k

depends on where you live

[vapid latch]

they asked for toronto and van

like the 2 highest CoL cities

[oblique crater]

oh mb just saw that

yeah definitely 80k minimum

[vapid latch]

u can check glassdoor

banks pay lower typically

thats not bad actually

[wispy estuary]

I haven't done any negotiation skill improvement, but my no brain play is always

what their average pay on glassdoor is + 10k

when they ask about salary

[vapid latch]

yeah that seems fair

no reason to lowball urself

[lunar sandal]

yes

✋

[ripe crescent]

I just heard back about this, and I moved forward as well! Please let me know if you hear anything about it! The email says 75minutes of behavioural but that seems like a really long time??

[vapid latch]

how hard is cohere?

[verbal epoch]

Mine says 1hr consisting of technical and behavioural questions

Whats the role u applied for

[ripe crescent]

The position is labelled Consultant, but I applied for the Technical Engineer pathway which required development experience.

Hbu???

[verbal epoch]

Position called Technical solutions developer @ cdc

Imma get clapped with a leetcode mid interview arent I

[ripe crescent]

oop, we aren't doing the same thing lmao nvm i think these are different branches of the company

[verbal epoch]

Aight gl

[worthy fjord]

i think that is like 2-3 years of exp, for grads its prolly this

but its still decent

[vapid latch]

oh yeah valid

[oblique crater]

negotiating right now might be way more risky

[vapid latch]

do companies really pull offers if you negotiate?

[oblique crater]

there are 3 others that would take anything they just wanna be employed

[wispy estuary]

honestly, still valid to negotiate rn

[oblique crater]

yeah of course but idk i got my newgrad offer and couldn’t afford a no

and realistically that extra 4% im negotiating for isn’t as life changing as the 96% i’m risking (i had very little leverage and was already on the verge of mental destruction)

[wispy estuary]

understandable, but negotiating at a low-level doesn't hurt. Most companies won't just throw away a candidate because they invested time and money in interviewing, validating, and confirming you as a candidate

[vivid fiber]

yea i dont c an issu in negotiatiin as long as u aint rude

[wispy estuary]

Even asking is this salary negotiable? Might get you a decent bump

Just for the above question ^ my friend got 5k extra

[vivid fiber]

altho i cna understand jus wantin to b don wit recruitin tnh

[oblique crater]

I got another offer after I signed that one and negotiated them to match the one I signed previously even though it was a lot lower, still the benefits were worse so i said no

but yeah simply having > 1 offers puts you in a way better spot

[eternal fossil]

hinge health opened their apps

for like

30 mins

and closed em

holy fuck lmfao

[vapid latch]

i think thats one of the companies going to my schools career fair on thursday

damn

[eternal fossil]

pretty insane

i had JUST applied to em

and i seen the posting on 2023 grad postings

and boom its closed

[vapid latch]

is hinge health a big company?

wow

[eternal fossil]

glassdoor says 1001-5000 employees

[oblique crater]

they’re probably looking for 4 devs and they got 300 apps in an hour

or it was a mistake

[eternal fossil]

yeah

they definitely didnt expect the overwhelming response

[uncut hornet]

every intern/co-op posting legit has 1000+ applicants tho

[vapid latch]

maybe they took it down by mistake

give it a day

[dark lintel]

which company pays 150k + is hiring rn?

[vivid fiber]

In Canada?

Tbh idt there is

[uncut hornet]

remote american company maybe

would only need ~112USD for conversion to be 150CAD

[vivid fiber]

Ye mayb

[brave fable]

For new grad consultant?

[fickle juniper]

Isn’t that incredibly rare? You’d probably have an easier time finding 150k cad

[verbal epoch]

Technical solution developer (new grad)

Idk how similar or different that is ngl

[graceful heart]

I also received this 75 mins interview. What does the case interview look like?

Mine is Consulting-technical engineer

[brave fable]

I got Consultant: technical engineer (new grad)

[graceful heart]

Same!

[brave fable]

The email said we need to prepare a presentation so I have no idea what to do

[graceful heart]

Me too! I have sent an email to ask HR about that. Hope I can get feedback

[candid oxide]

dont think its that rare couple random us startups i interned at (remotely) return offers remote in canada are >150k cad

[brave fable]

I just wish they would ask me Leetcode questions 😩

Expecting codemonkeys to do presentations is pushing it imo

[fickle juniper]

Just curious, which ones?

[graceful heart]

Calgary or Toronto?

[brave fable]

Toronto I think

Actually, the email said multiple locations

[eternal fossil]

wheres that 50k ng simp guy

@steel escarp

hows the circle job going pal

[steel escarp]

oh not gonna start till march

filled in team match form like 2 or 3 weeks ago

yes @timid tartan referred me

so i got the interview request before the job posting came out

[novel dome]

Anyone interviewed with KPMG before? Got a 30min interview with em

[steel escarp]

just got the matching result btw

[eternal fossil]

oh niiice

ok sounds good

been a while

[worldly ridge]

[steel escarp]

ye result was kinda surprised

they ignored all my top 3 choices 🤣

[echo latch]

[steel escarp]

but the team i got matched regardless sounds really interesting

[eternal fossil]

dude but the sun w as out

[eternal fossil]

what team did u get put in

[steel escarp]

Web3 services team

[worldly ridge]

lucky....

i have sport intramurals at 12am, its going to be like -20

[echo latch]

time to learn badminton

[eternal fossil]

thats good tho

[worldly ridge]

ur starting badminton ins eattle?

[echo latch]

No no I’ve been playing since I was 8

Just saying bc it’s indoors so you won’t feel the cold

[steel escarp]

ye i'm pretty excited

[worldly ridge]

oh haha

its intramurals dodgeball

i love badminton too though

imagine wagons is probs lin dan jeesh

i envy that uw has like 14 hour sessions per week for badmiton club :despair:

[echo latch]

real

[ripe crescent]

I got this too! @raw patio please let me know if you hear anything back.

[echo latch]

I only played at inter-hs level tho I’m not good

never tried for nationals etc

[ripe crescent]

Have y'all had case experience?? 😮‍💨 Is this the business kid equivalent of LC hard????

[echo latch]

Case experience? What dat

Pm shit?

[brave fable]

I think it’s consulting/PM related

[ripe crescent]

For the Deloitte Consulting - Technical Engineer position.

[brave fable]

Never done it before though

[worldly ridge]

duuuude....if you played inter hs level you must be cracked regardless

[echo latch]

Deloitte

[ripe crescent]

I think we have 48 hours to prepare a presentation??

[echo latch]

Maybe I was but then my shoulder broke-y 💀

[somber coral]

happy to send over some resources if you like, i feel like the hardest part is just communicating your ideas coherently and w structure because you can definitely come up w great ideas in 48 hours

[worldly ridge]

what happened?

:l

[brave fable]

May I also have those resources as well

[echo latch]

dislocated my shoulder this past summer kek

but I’ve restored most of my movement now just gotta go to pt and restore strength and I should be good

Been putting off pt tho

[ripe crescent]

omg, yes pls! i would rlly appreciate it! can i DM you?

[somber coral]

yup :) and for sure, shoot me a dm too @brave fable

[worldly ridge]

ohh fudgeee, did you fall or something?

good that u can recover and go back to normal though and not permanent

[ripe crescent]

just sent a friend req! I think we both have server DMS off lmao

[echo latch]

yee on a hike

it’s honestly pretty wild I made it back down

[dark lintel]

yeah there were couple of company offering 200k + in toronto last year

but now they all froze pretty much

[analog current]

what happened to brex did it pass away

[worldly ridge]

im so sorry to hear 😭 @echo latch . hope u feel better

[vivid fiber]

Layoffs

[broken onyx]

just finished the IBM interview anyone else do it ?

how was it and does anyone know when we will hear back?

[eternal fossil]

how was it

[honest perch]

yes i was not expecting those types of questions so i kinda fucked up wbu?

[tawny zephyr]

yeah

[barren sinew]

Wish a few years ago was offering 200k+ for new grads. Most of that being stock. Now its stock is nearly worthless

[tawny zephyr]

she said she sent my resume to all the teams hiring

and if it doesnt work for this summer she would like to stay in touch for future summer internships

so it’s looking unlikely

wdym

yeah that was before she knew i am a high schooler

i think she was deadass gonna give me an offer then and there if i was in university

cuz she was asking about my work terms and shit

[worldly ridge]

what was the base atleast

[broken onyx]

Idk if I did well though

[limber dirge]

anyone else do wealthsimple final?

[barren sinew]

I just checked levels and their base is actually really good. Maybe they rejigged comp to favor base. Looks like 140-160k base now

[worldly ridge]

thats rly good

[timid tartan]

I still regret that decision smh

[steel escarp]

c'mon

ik i can't meet ur 200k standard but sorry for being bad 😭

[timid tartan]

Now I want my jane street referral pls thx

[steel escarp]

they won't even look at my resume cuz of my gpa 😭

[timid tartan]

Pretty sure Circle is supposed to look at gpa too

I remember I had to send my transcript

You prob got the offer before you tanked ur last semester 👀

I guess they have to re-evaluate ur offer 👀

[steel escarp]

ye i did

👀

[timid tartan]

Uh huh

[steel escarp]

they told me that i got referred by the best intern so they trust me 👀

[timid tartan]

-_-

[lucid berry]

Amazon transferred their interns at warehouse location last summer???

[echo latch]

yes

it was on my first ever hike LOL

[lucid berry]

LMAO

[echo latch]

we did the chief

[lucid berry]

Where is that?

[echo latch]

it had ladders and chains and shit and I climbed down all those with a dislocated shoulder

[echo latch]

bc

[lucid berry]

I mean you had no choice

[echo latch]

was lowkey considering the costs of an air ambulance bc i couldnt move my arm

but also i didnt realize i had a dislocated shoulder for 3 days bc everyone said "you'd be screaming in pain"

cons of having a high pain tolerance

[lucid berry]

You went to the hospital in the end?

[hallow urchin]

anyone do intact hackerrank
that linkedlist question was rarted

[lucid berry]

Was it for AI backend?

[hallow urchin]

yes

[lucid berry]

It's always random the questions

[hallow urchin]

well shit i hope i passed

im so tired of copying code from one screen to another

[lunar sandal]

LMFAO

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

im done

[hallow urchin]

idek what to do anymore it just feels criminal but its the wise thing to do

[wispy estuary]

that's what we call rationalising our decisions 💀

[hallow urchin]

indubitably

okay

[tawny zephyr]

uoft is better for masters

[tawny zephyr]

a lot of people say because of research

and apparently the only reason uoft is like T10 or T20 worldwide

is because of its research and grad programs

[lunar sandal]

thats the most significant metric that unis are ranked by btw

[lunar sandal]

if ur end goal is to land a job at trading firms then get good at probability and stats, and leetcode

[tawny zephyr]

I am not sure but I am sure they are very competitive

why not go for a T20 in the US?

[lunar sandal]

go for the cheaper option i would say, although UofT is the one thats more theory oriented out of the two.

[tawny zephyr]

depends on how much cheaper

and waterloo works for undergrad has been shit this year

idk how for masters

ask around

but I have heard uoft better

[lunar sandal]

same for uoft pey

[tawny zephyr]

if u are in the US arent u intl for canada

[tawny zephyr]

difference is pey has always been shit

[lunar sandal]

no lol

bro ur not even in uni yet

[tawny zephyr]

compared to waterloo works it has

[lunar sandal]

all ur words are from hearsay

everything is shit rn

cuz of the job markets current state.

[tawny zephyr]

then I would def go to canada

H1-B greencard wait time is like 20 years

[lunar sandal]

1st option

obvious choice

[tawny zephyr]

u still need H1-B even if u arent india / china?

unless I am mistaken

how long is STEM opt

u still have to transition into H1-B after that

are u sure? do your research

I am 99% sure you do

u are allowed to stay in the US as long as ur i-140 is valid I believe

but if you want to re-enter the country

you need H1-B

a valid H1-B

[stone moth]

lol

waterloo is mentionned more than any school

and its not even a Canadian server 💀

[mental monolith]

😔

[worn moss]

drw was the only one on there this term

[stone moth]

wait really you can bypass the H1B ?

are you sure ?

mmmmmm

[echo latch]

For master’s it doesn’t really matter tbh
The boost you’d get from doing loo undergrad is way higher than loo master’s

The whole draw of loo is you do 6 internships during your undergrad and you don’t do that as a master’s student

So you’re better off staying in the US or trying to get into a better grad school in the US

[vapid latch]

anyone do the bell internships interview

and anyone do the perpetua phone call?

[vapid latch]

i applied to their like, summer 2023 inventory

got sent a 1 way interview

just curious about the rest of the process

[novel dome]

Anyone heard back from bmo, td ot cibc?

[ripe crescent]

i think it went ok? questions were really long and hard for me to parse personally tho

i think we hear back early/mid feb

[wispy estuary]

damn, should've applied to IBM

feels like 60% of my coursework through uni has been parsing lol

[ripe crescent]

they were just behavioural questions! by "parse" i just meant it was hard to read the situation n find the question in it lmaooo

[distant gazelle]

negative

[lunar sandal]

TD is already in the process of giving offers for intern

[vapid latch]

🤡

fk all these big banks

[novel dome]

💀

[real storm]

anyone did the system design interview round with thomson retuers

[lunar sandal]

Yep

[lunar sandal]

Yeeeeppp

[vapid latch]

like its kinda ridiculous

[lunar sandal]

my dumbass was hopeful even though I haven’t heard back for any of the 3 roles I applied to at TD

[vapid latch]

^

[novel dome]

I did get rejected from one role

Thought I have chances with the others

[vapid latch]

i just heard back nill

[broken onyx]

wow, that means it will take a while

[ripe crescent]

yeah 1 to 2 weeks :((((( !!!! i'm rlly keeping my fingers crossed for this one lol i want the grind to end!

[broken onyx]

Did you ask the recruiter about it?

I wish i had done so tbh

[ripe crescent]

no it was in the email we got before the event

[broken onyx]

Ah ok ok ok

[broken onyx]

Oh it says within two weeks so we can prob hear back sooner

I think we will hear back this or next week

[drifting shore]

Fk the banks

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-the-rock-gif-hitori-gotoh-hitori-gotoh-gif-27237975

[vapid latch]

is this for PM role?

[turbid island]

anyone interview with geocomply for ds

[ripe crescent]

nope! it's an associate developer role!

[lusty roost]

last year it was a big group interview lol

very weird

like 6 candidates and 3-4 interviewers

[vapid latch]

oh weird

[wispy estuary]

I have never done a group interview, anyone have stories?

Sounds awful to me

[oak bone]

It’s chill usually

[lucid berry]

Still like that this year

[eternal fossil]

telus is being weird

they posted their new grad role yesterday

closed it like 30 mins in

and re opened it 26 mins ago today

and on portal it says its closed now ?

but u can still navigate to the page

and see the opening

ya could very much be that

https://tenor.com/view/snip-snap-michael-scott-the-office-gif-15109128

this the scene i think of when companies remove and add postings within 30 mins

[lunar sandal]

companies finalizing budgets

could be whats happening rn

[eternal fossil]

Yes they do

[vapid latch]

im tired of internship recruiting and i’ve barely started

[drifting shore]

I rather do leetcode than try to find an internship

[cloud vortex]

💀 Looks like scotiabank has sent out coffee chats.

[drifting shore]

wtf are coffee chats

We are cs majors

[steel escarp]

but finding internship is the only reason why u do lc :v

[drifting shore]

[cloud vortex]

People got invites to talk with the recruiter and possible HR?

[vapid latch]

damn i got none

[cloud vortex]

I guess they wanna make sure potential candidates aren't too weird.

[vapid latch]

[cloud vortex]

me neither💀

[vapid latch]

did their stupid velocity asessments and OAs for what

[drifting shore]

Fk the banks

[cloud vortex]

For getting the chance to feel bad for ourselves 😭

[drifting shore]

That’s why I don’t do stupid assessments

[vapid latch]

back 2 the grind

cant doomer forever

[steel escarp]

u guys got this ❤️

[cloud vortex]

Goal to get the offer and turn them down.

Nah, jk, I am a sucker, I will take the offer 🥺

[edgy rose]

Yeah that sounds like me. Yeah don't make dumb financial decisions

[lunar sandal]

how the fuck

do they prefer laurier over uoft

[oak horizon]

anyone know if loblaws has sent interviews?

[wispy estuary]

I know they sent some rejections 😢

[lunar sandal]

has anyone heard back from ceridian?

[analog current]

rejected

[edgy rose]

they are giving devs case studies to solve now

[bleak pollen]

i don't how ppl are getting offers or what sorcery they are doing to get offer, but I can't even land a single interview

[wispy estuary]

post your resume (assuming you haven't already)

and what are you aiming for?

[uncut hornet]

this seems super easy to just chatgpt

[edgy rose]

Yeah I'd rather fail than use that to get an interview

The question wasn't even difficult, I typed like 6 points in 10 minutes

[uncut hornet]

yeah I get morally why you wouldn't use it, I'm just pointing out how easy it is to use gpt to answer the question

like they're about to get 100 applications with the exact same response

[stone moth]

Newbie here

What’s this type of question is ?

You have to come up and describe a solution at a high level or what exactly ?

[brave fable]

Which company?

[short robin]

I had mine today

[hardy minnow]

any1 do d2l interview?

[tawny zephyr]

if u get d2l

please tell them

to fucking fix

everything

[hardy minnow]

LOL

[tawny zephyr]

such a shit platform

[hardy minnow]

💀

[tawny zephyr]

nah I am serious

like

our school

switched from google classroom

to d2l

for what

"because google classroom made us too dependent on google's tools" 🤓

[hardy minnow]

lmfaoo dw ill let em know ur cheesed

[tawny zephyr]

ty

now ace the interview

and get that offer

[hardy minnow]

do yk the pay by chance?

or questions

[tawny zephyr]

no

I am a high schooler lol

[hardy minnow]

tuff ai

this guy lmfao

[tawny zephyr]

I am only here because I might have a chance with cohere

I got a verbal offer

which slowly turned into "I emailed all the teams with your resume"

and a if it doesnt work out for this summer i'd love stay in touch

not salty at all 💀

[hardy minnow]

ur blessed fam

[tawny zephyr]

eh

I have a CGI offer

I want cohere tho

CGI pay is 🥜 I heard

like 20 an hour

[lunar sandal]

whats cgi

[tawny zephyr]

consulting company

[lunar sandal]

damn

and here uoft sophomores cant get replies back

life is tough.

[tawny zephyr]

this is what CGI says on their website

[tawny zephyr]

I got very lucky

and I think the issue here is everyone is trying to do the same thing

if u go to a recruiter and tell em u are looking for internship and try to show off ur skills they wont care

but if you are taking an approach where all u want to do is learn

they remember u

and are more willing to help you

[lunar sandal]

but i dont give a fuck about the mission statement of companies bro i just want experience?

[tawny zephyr]

that approach has worked for me so far with my CGI offer and cohere offer (?)

[tawny zephyr]

I am not telling u to give a fuck about mission statements about the companies

I am telling u to show them why u want the internship

which is because you want to learn

[lunar sandal]

i think everyone is laready doing that

too

[tawny zephyr]

maybe, maybe not

its working for me

so I am going to keep doing it

and I have gotten both of the offers from hackathons

1 from uofthacks and 1 from some small hackathon

[lunar sandal]

this is not a guarantee btw

i had the same thing with SS&C and Interac. Ghosted (for now)

[tawny zephyr]

yeah I know

why do u think I am salty

if it was guarantee I wouldnt really give a fuck

but tbh I dont really mind

I didnt want to do internship this summer

I wanted to do research

and if I get research then i'm happy

whats the end goal of ur internship

except the pay

[limber dirge]

nicee

[tawny zephyr]

no to learn

ok so

hm I dont know how to give an example

like theres not set method

I was helping some random people at a hackathon and thats when I got "offered" cohere

[lunar sandal]

its just luck

[tawny zephyr]

I was pitching to the judges and they were CGI employees (high position)

and they offered me

[lunar sandal]

thats all there is to this whole discussion. Luck

u can be deserving and get jack or u can fake it and get 1000 offers. Luck issue gg go next

[tawny zephyr]

you could chalk it up to luck but if u dont really go out to events reach out to people try to learn more

then is it luck or u arent willing to put in the work in

or u could just apply and hope u get interview

talk about a project you made

u are trying to learn

try to be in a position where u can take something away from the conversation even if you dont get the referral

it shouldnt be awkward if that makes sense

and I am probably sounding like a dick rn I dont even know as much as u guys

whatever I am saying is from personal experience

[eternal fossil]

anybody here did cisco soft eng intern OA?

thru shl or whatever its called?

[oblique crater]

Luck is mutable by exposing yourself more you are likely to get lucky

[lunar sandal]

yes way back in september

shit platform, but LC easy/med

[eternal fossil]

how many easy/med?

also did you go forward or ?

im guessing its auto generated OA, is it tho ?

[hot rapids]

I got a DFS trie question for one of the questions on the cisco oa a few months back

[eternal fossil]

thats carzy

[worn moss]

bro stop saying u have a cohere offer when u havent even gotten an interview yet the reason u got the cgi offer is cause u developed a technically impressive project that won u a hackathon

[tawny zephyr]

why do u think I put a question mark next to it

[worn moss]

nah but like regardless still mad misleading

[tawny zephyr]

alright

[worn moss]

check dms

[lunar sandal]

got the same thing more or less

i got word search

as my 3rd question, didnt move forward cuz i couldnt do it at the time

the first one was counting set bits in an integer, andd like some implementation qeustion

[eternal fossil]

thats crazy

@patent agate

[worthy fjord]

when u get the email?

[lunar sandal]

yea but ur 3rd yr

markets better for yall

obviously?

i dont count that as a result.

or rather, indifferent

gg

can i have a referral ? (with rizz)

i havent heard back from ceridian like at all

for the 4 month postings

[azure vortex]

can i have a referral ? (with rizz)

[worthy fjord]

why cringe

where u end up doing

[worldly ridge]

dude he took konrad

with liek 65k tc new grad

@weak gazelle you have no prestige

[worn moss]

did they give out phone yet?

[eternal fossil]

ahh i see

makes sense

[versed geode]

anyone done Super’s full stack interview?

[proud coyote]

Does anyone know what are the safe and affordable (<$1400) neighbourhoods in Toronto for a studio/1 bedroom apt? Office is near harbourfront and I only have to go in around twice a week.

[wispy estuary]

I'm no expert in toronto housing

but I don't think you're going to find that lol

either you'll have to go farther out for a studio

or get a couple roommates you share an apt with or something

in that price range

[merry crystal]

^^

just live in another city and commute

[proud coyote]

ah fml, what cities do y'all recommend for <$1400, idc if I have to commute >1 hr since I'll be going in once/twice a week

what area do u live in lol

oof sounds lit

[wispy estuary]

😢

it do be late pickings

but keep at it

latest i've received a co-op offer was 2 weeks before the start date

[drifting shore]

ea

[merry crystal]

live in Ajax or something

2 days a week commute shouldn’t be too bad

[edgy rose]

then take the posting down

[ripe crescent]

try mississauga or scarborough. just get yourself somewhere convenient enough to the subway/go train

[timber hamlet]

anyone have an idea about DRW OA ? I got one for a data sciecnce internship

[celest junco]

:000 you got cohere? could i pm?

i got a recruiter call

today

fr? do u know how much they pay for interns?

ok lol thanks good to know

[tawny zephyr]

i never said i got cohere offer i said i got verbal which slowly turned into recruiter emailing all teams with my resume

and saying if it doesnt work out for this summer then future summers

[tawny zephyr]

^^

ppl jus taking out of context

and thats why theres a question mark next to cohere offer

[tawny zephyr]

someone said they pay 60 an hour idk if its true

[celest junco]

Lol that’s too good to be tru

I saw 50

On levels

[vapid latch]

HAHAH I GOT THE SAME THING TOO

tbh its kinda insane how early recruiting is

[worthy fjord]

ea gotta go f themselves lol

[proud coyote]

ty ty

[proud coyote]

ty, I'll probably do that

[tawny zephyr]

yeah I know

cuz CGI only giving me 20

and google pays 35 in canada I think

[celest junco]

??? No way

Def more than that

[tawny zephyr]

how much do u think it is

I dont remember but I read somewhere its 35 cad

I am probs wrong tho lol

[candid oxide]

think it’s somewhere in the 40s cad

[tawny zephyr]

isnt it 40 for ppl in the US

[candid oxide]

US offers are high 40s closer to 50

[tawny zephyr]

I see

[broken whale]

people getting offers and here I am getting resume rejected from everywhere

[vapid latch]

i think i acc got hazed during that last interview

[frozen brook]

just failed my 6th technical/final :( rip me

[wispy estuary]

that's a strong amount of final interviews though

so you're doing something right

what's your process for tech interview prepping?

[frozen brook]

don't really have one. Mostly just research company, create questions, and thats about it

ive failed most of my interviews by like.. not knowing certain concepts or just being incompetent at reading a question..

mostly the second one

[wispy estuary]

do you practice leetcode?

[frozen brook]

nope .__. i probably should but don't find it fun. I have competitively coded in the past, so I do know how to solve most questions that come up if I think hard enough

[stone moth]

CP is different than LC

I did cp on codeforces / ioi before

[barren sinew]

Try Pramp to practice interviewing. It will help in things like reading ghe question, understanding, etc.

[stone moth]

but the concept and style of questions is bit different

while def. Competitive programming is harder than LC

LC/interview type questions focuses more on knowing the algorithm

rather than competing against other CP folks to find the most efficient mathematical way to solve the problem

[frozen brook]

for me, the real struggle is being able to explain my thinking

not really figuring out the most efficient

cause there is where i've failed most of mine :/ but it might differ for different people

[frozen brook]

will check it out

I just need to take my time and read the question, instead of what I usually do which is skim the question and try to assume from I/O

and explain thinking

[novel dome]

Anyone get the instawork project?

[vivid fiber]

They pay based on exp iirc

[tawny zephyr]

I thought intern salaries were non neogitable

lol

and the same for everyone

[vivid fiber]

nah

some companies will pay you more or less based on how many prior internships you have

Just added Instawork, 1password, Motorola, and more!
https://github.com/Queen-s-COMPSA/Canadian-Tech-Internships-2023

Please leave a star and contributions are greatly appreciated!

[tawny raptor]

Goat

[ripe crescent]

nope! i saw someone got their internship offer a week after their final though. so hopefully within the week

[tawny raptor]

Does ibm canada pay good

Seems boomer

[hallow urchin]

didnt make it past the KPMG OA round fml

[hallow urchin]

i think 27-32

[high tapir]

Anybody make it to final round of StackAdapt interviews?

[ancient tartan]

No, just avg coop salary

[vivid fiber]

They pay up to like 32 afaik

[vapid latch]

me neither its ok

[uneven vigil]

https://www.canadastop100.com/national/

if you guys need a list of employers to apply from, here is a good one

and when you click on individual companies, it has a list of universities it hires from

and cities you can work from

and even internships opportunities

[dark lintel]

Cohere pays 50 + is prob true, I'm just guessing ofc

It seems like some Canada Startups are getting some good venture capital fundings so they can afford to compete with some bay area companies

Honestly it seems like Toronto tech scene is getting better slowly

[tawny raptor]

Might not be super robust now that vc is drying up tho

[limber dirge]

what are the highest paying CAD companies in canada

[vapid latch]

sheesh i have my behavioural with them today

[dark lintel]

Yeah true but Cohere and some other companies like waabi (also in toronto) secured 100M or plus fundings last year, and they have around 100 exmployees, so the run way is good at least

[dark lintel]

talking about cash, probably Brex

[dark lintel]

GL

[echo latch]

gm

[edgy rose]

I just redid my whole resume , I hope it turns things around 🙏

[vapid latch]

damn i got moved to technical for deep genomics

anyone interviewed with them before? whats the technical like

[worldly ridge]

:l

[lunar sandal]

eBay sent out rejections

[brave fable]

Have you heard back yet?

My interview is supposed to be on Monday, but they haven’t sent a link or anything yet

[vivid fiber]

Also power

which just exited

[hazy heath]

Has anybody interviewed for SAP iXp DevOps internship?

I have no idea what kind of interview questions can be asked for DevOps intern position

[somber coral]

i heard it's not technical at all

[hazy heath]

that's interesting

Should I expect more of conceptual questions related to cloud, OS, Docker, Kubernetes these kind of things?

[somber coral]

lemme scroll up in another server’s chat history in a few hours and get back to U after class ?

[hazy heath]

okk sounds good thanks!

[somber coral]

ping me if i dont respond by tn

[edgy rose]

Toronto really be pulling out the sun in -31 weather. You go out for 5 minutes, you'll get a frostbite

[ripe crescent]

mine is supposed to be on the 7th, so i haven't! they're gna send a confirmation 48 hours before your interview, so i'm not expecting to hear back until sunday!

i think you'll hear back tomorrow

if u could confirm that tho that would be great ldkjjkfnsslf it would be awful to make this assumption n then have no one to reach out to on the weekened

[brave fable]

Yeah, for sure. Weekends aren’t business days which is why I was worried

[worldly ridge]

I wish this weather happened on a weekday instead of a friday

[edgy rose]

fr, ruins all plans

[tawny raptor]

Power?

[hardy minnow]

any1 hear back from td?

or ciena

[vivid fiber]

https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/14/fintech-power-credit-card/amp/

[real storm]

damn lmao I worked on the same team with three of the senior level guys

[ripe crescent]

Damn that wasn't the final round

[vivid fiber]

They all prob made big bank lol

[echo latch]

gn

[tawny raptor]

Thats not an exit

I didnt know about them though

Is credit facility funding or is that to lend out for their cards?

Seems like lending money since 16mil seems more likely for a seed round than 316

[vivid fiber]

sorry i linked the wrong article

https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/30/daily-crunch-fintech-infrastructure-startup-power-finance-acquired-by-marqeta-for-275m/

[boreal sentinel]

feels like -30 🥶

[vivid fiber]

-36 here 😦

[boreal sentinel]

vancouver i’m coming baby

[boreal sentinel]

wtf

[tawny raptor]

Ahh ok

[echo latch]

L

[boreal sentinel]

canada L moment

[tawny raptor]

Vancouver is warm now

Just east coast L

[boreal sentinel]

almost everything is an l here

yeah east coast sucks

[echo latch]

I am also Canada mans

Just seattle mans for now

[boreal sentinel]

soon doggie will privatize healthcare for ontario so we will lose our main argument on why we’re better than merica

[worldly ridge]

@analog current 👋

[vivid fiber]

i pray dat dont happen 🙏

its all we hav

[boreal sentinel]

me too

[worldly ridge]

atleast we dont have guns 😈

[vivid fiber]

oh truuuu

[boreal sentinel]

honestly bc just looks better every day

[worldly ridge]

thats our only argumetn now

[vivid fiber]

wel we dont got privatized health care

wich means if ur poor u wont b broke 🙂

[analog current]

who tf stole my identity

[worldly ridge]

for now 🤞

you guys know about how use have HSA for healthcare

our upcoming FHSA account is not for homes acutaly, its to pay for healthcare

[vapid latch]

ottawa getting minus 25

[broken onyx]

did you hear back IBM?

[vapid latch]

this why my parents told me don’t go to uottawa

[broken onyx]

i got an email but i think its a mass email that everyone got tbh

they said they will reach out to everyone on feb 7th - feb 17th

[river plinth]

anyone else interview for Rivian? was wondering what the technical is like?

[ripe crescent]

Yeah that's the same email I got. gheeeez, I thought that was the finaaal

[broken onyx]

Yeah i wonder if everyone got that email

i guess we will know if we made it on feb 7th

[vapid latch]

anyone do cohere technical interview

[limber dirge]

rip got final round rejected for power in december 💀

[tawny raptor]

I mean working for a company that just got acquired generally not fun

[vivid fiber]

My friend worked for a company that got acquired

and cuz the new company shipped him a new laptop he got to keep the laptop originally given to him, which was a mbp 16

so 🤷‍♂️

[proud coyote]

Does anyone know how many interns rbc hires for tech?

[mental monolith]

lmao for the posting a few months ago?

[lunar sandal]

yd

[lunar sandal]

nah for intern

[tight gale]

Hello Canadians

[mental monolith]

sounds like what a non canadian would say

🔫

[tawny zephyr]

agreed

[lost wedge]

yes

[vapid latch]

ya i did too, not doing it

[tawny raptor]

How big is it?

Was gonna apply but not worth maybe

[novel dome]

u plannin on doing it?

[lost wedge]

maybe I'm not sure

[novel dome]

mood

[lost wedge]

yeah are you planning to do it?

[novel dome]

depends on if i hear back next week from other places

[lost wedge]

ohh ok nice

[wet sleet]

how big is it?

[vapid latch]

theyre asking u to build a fullstack app in django

[wet sleet]

loolll

[lunar sandal]

LMFAO

[vapid latch]

cant make dis shit up

[tawny zephyr]

whats the requirements for it

sounds pretty straight forward

[vapid latch]

simple CRUD app

[tawny zephyr]

that doesnt sound too bad

are they accepting university students only? 💀

[vapid latch]

think so

[tawny zephyr]

damn rip

[lunar sandal]

doesn't sound too bad till u realize, ur not guaranteed to get anything for the time you spent doing their shit

[tawny zephyr]

I dont like doing dsa

so for me its not too bad

[magic perch]

Watching US folks at banks/insurance making 50%+ more than my FT salary at a Canadian bank

[wispy estuary]

anytime I get an assessment I usually just don't do it

not worth my time unless i'm speaking to a real person

[vapid latch]

how do u get jobs then

[wispy estuary]

90% of my job application processes have been HR phone interview -> phone/zoom tech interview -> offer

[vivid fiber]

They're v talented

Most ppl should do assessments, unless they are in a similar position wer dey can choose

[vapid latch]

built diff

[mental monolith]

I dont know how applicable this is for 99% of cs kids/new grads

People in this server really are something else

[vivid fiber]

It isn't

Like imagine getting the Google assessment

And just saying no 💀

[mental monolith]

This place is not good for my mental health

Kek

[vapid latch]

tbh idk what ppl get of value from here

other than imposter syndrome

and a list of resources to study

once u have that u could leave and come back to do mocks

[mental monolith]

The leetcode bot is nice

[vapid latch]

mute all the other channels

[mental monolith]

Resume review before it became forum thing was good

[wispy estuary]

maybe it's confusion on my part

but I rarely get sent OAs to begin with

usually just goes straight to HR interview

[mental monolith]

Oh nono i'm happy for you

But in general looking at this server has been quite

What's the word

[wispy estuary]

depressing

[mental monolith]

For lack of better term we'll go with that

[unborn schooner]

If you want depression spend a few mins in 2023 grads

[vivid fiber]

@wispy estuary don't you hav a job that pays extremely wel?

[mental monolith]

No i'm good i muted that long ago

[unborn schooner]

Lmao

[mental monolith]

Despite being 2023 ng

[wispy estuary]

new grad 😢

[vivid fiber]

Don't u tink dat ur advice doesn't rlly apply 2 most ppl

[vapid latch]

i feel like peoples perception of what a good salary is so skewed too

[wispy estuary]

got a couple very promising final interviews coming up, but atm unemployed

[mental monolith]

I thonk it's just miscomm

[vapid latch]

in this server

[unborn schooner]

Yeah

[vivid fiber]

Oh I'm sorry i didn't kno

Good luck tho 🙏

[mental monolith]

Best of luck for those having some crumb of progress

I personally havent, but rooting for those who do

Post-grad pre-work sucks

[vivid fiber]

Imo anyting 60k+ is good, 80k+ is gr8, 100k+ is extraordinary.

[vapid latch]

exactly

[vivid fiber]

Dats da mentality i had b4 joinin dis server

[vapid latch]

at least starting out

[mental monolith]

And if there are those willing to refer, please talk to me

[unborn schooner]

me neither rip

very dry inbox the past couple of weeks

[mental monolith]

Me too

Hoping economy will recover somewhat in the next few months

Hopefully within q1

Savings running out

Where u guys located anyway? I'm in van

[unborn schooner]

im just so glad im not international, there's people in the grads channel who are very depressed cause they might get kicked out the country

[unborn schooner]

im in scotland lmao not sure what im doing in the canada channel

[wispy estuary]

UK jobs never respond back to me😔

[edgy rose]

thats in the us

canada is still a little forgiving

[mental monolith]

Hee hee i'm intl

[unborn schooner]

same here

[mental monolith]

Applying for work permit soon ish

[unborn schooner]

grads get a 2 year visa with no job requirement

[mental monolith]

Got 3 years i think?

[edgy rose]

i cant imagine the pressure having to find a job in 60 days

its 3 years if you did a 4 year degree

generally

[mental monolith]

That cant be real

60 days

[unborn schooner]

yeah

[edgy rose]

yes it is. if you are on i think its called h1b visa or something

and you dont find a job in 60 days, you have to leave.

[mental monolith]

So you're sort of banking on previous internships giving a retuen offer then

[wispy estuary]

H1B visa I'm pretty sure is more forgiving

[mental monolith]

That's wild

[unborn schooner]

stem grads get opt which allows for 90 days of unemployment starting from whenever u start it

[wispy estuary]

I think the 60 day number is for one of the lower work visa classifications

[edgy rose]

yeah but imagine all the people who were laid off and on a visa

[mental monolith]

Yeah ik

[wispy estuary]

oh nvm

60 day is H1B

[unborn schooner]

amazon pushing start dates fucked over so many internationals

[mental monolith]

I thought i had it rough here

Not so bad when i put things into perspective

[edgy rose]

no canada is heaven compared to the US for intl students

or the uk

or australia lol

[tawny zephyr]

facts

u actually got feedback on ur resume yk

[mental monolith]

was good while it lasted

[magic perch]

Idk given the price of things, I sometimes wonder how “real” people actually survive

I imagine most people either live extremely frugally, or have practically no savings, or both

[magic perch]

Like isn’t the percentage or ppl who wouldn’t be able to pay for rent if they missed one week’s paycheque extremely high or something

[vapid latch]

is ng hiring really that much harder than internships for canada?

[analog current]

has anyone here done only research and then switched into swe

I’m talking like senior year swe

[barren sinew]

My theory is that the older generations have their house and that's it.

Thats what all wealth in this country is derived from. Disclaimer: I am no economist

[vivid fiber]

Much much harder

[vivid fiber]

Def no

I kno ppl living off 60~80k in downtwom Toronto

They don't hav da nicest apartments

But it's not impossible lol

They also hav decent savings

[azure spire]

https://i.imgur.com/FmWfgEF.png
what does this mean

Canadian citizens would need a J-1 visa right(for internships)

Is it saying that they can accept ppl who already got their visa from a previous internship etc?

[fickle juniper]

If u need a J1, you’re not eligible for this job

[vapid latch]

ur based in canada?

i dont think itll be that much harder

[vivid fiber]

Ye lol

[vivid fiber]

Much harder

There's little to no new grad jobs

My friend had 2 of his interviews cancel due to the economy

[vapid latch]

good thing itll improve by the time i graduate

[vivid fiber]

wen do u grad?

itll hopefully improve by 24

[echo latch]

the thing is, new grad hiring for 24 is done in 23

So you need it to be better by this year

At least for the most part

[nocturne flame]

Bruh I need job please I can’t be unemployed

[tawny raptor]

You just need recruiters to think itll be better by 24

[echo latch]

It does not work like that my friend

[oblique crater]

this server is good for getting outlier data points, you should form the average around your university, social circle and other real life factors that have way more of an effect on you

comparing yourself to people here is useless because A- they can easily lie, B- it doesn't paint a fair image and you'll just demotivated by it

my pay is quite "below average" for this server but that's only because of who actually shares their salary and who I'm comparing myself to, idk anybody irl that's my age that's making the same amount of money I am, cs or not

[oblique crater]

well of course, but personally, i don't think it's a fair comparison between me and someone who's grown up in SF, both parents in tech, goes to stanford or mit and has been coding since the age of 12, there are mfs like that in this server

that will lead to inferiority complex ^

you need to always look above if you wanna move up in the world but to a reasonable point

exactly, compare yourself to the person you were yesterday

this is one of the most meritocratic majors and jobs in history, the interview process has been literally gameified, but still, there are so many other factors that ultimately influence that TC, even landing the same job as the hypothetical prodigy you might not have as much leverage and can't negotiate as hard

I personally don't get demotivated by these individuals but this is a constant theme here, this server is depressing etc. etc.

yeah no issue with that, but here it's just a random ass profile, could be complete bullshit, or could be a multi millionaire child who's been molded by their parents on this path

comparing yourself to people irl is much more realistic since you know more of the story, here you just see !process google offer (220k TC and corp housing in manhattan see ya losers)

[edgy rose]

i cant even afford a studio in toronto. pls dont make me feel so insecure lol

[oblique crater]

that's why waterloo is depressing af and the grind culture there is unhealthy for the regular person who just happened to apply and get in

you're not getting the point, i know where you're coming from and you should keep doing what you're doing

[dark lintel]

This server is also pretty good at helping you getting good jobs for sure cause there are cracked people can give out prep advice / recruiter emails etc

[tawny raptor]

Its not really depressing lol

People make it out to be a lot more cut throat than it is

[worldly ridge]

except ur the least cracked

[ancient tartan]

Anyone has interviewed snowflake 2023 summer intern?

[oblique crater]

not there so i can’t really comment but that’s what it seems to me, obviously you have a more holistic image

i’m the same way, it comes down to personality ig

[echo latch]

it is v depressing but most of my friends now that we are in our upper years are basically on autopilot mode

just chilling, no one ik is really grinding anymore

[tawny raptor]

Legit nobody ik irl finds it depressing

When I have friends visit from queens etc they say it seems better than their schools

I think its only depressing if you go into it with a bad mindset

[azure vortex]

r u 4a

[echo latch]

the vast majority of people would def disagree on that lol

all my cs and ece friends def find it depressing

[tawny raptor]

Maybe for online people but thats self selecting

Not irl people

[echo latch]

yes

[echo latch]

ive done both lol

[limber dirge]

im on autopilot just started 3a lol

online gpa carries me through irl terms 🙏

[azure vortex]

unironically

it helped a lot

[echo latch]

it was even more depressing after having had a blast at in-person internships this past summer bc there's nothing to do here like at all

[azure vortex]

i trolled last term

but my avg is still ok

[limber dirge]

yeah lmao same

[azure vortex]

it will probbly tank now though

cs341 😓

[limber dirge]

lool had to grind for that like 3 days before finals

[azure vortex]

you fast trcked 341?

[limber dirge]

i only take 3 courses during school terms and 2 courses w coops

[echo latch]

@azure vortex are you on coop rn

[azure vortex]

no

[echo latch]

[limber dirge]

im working rn doing 2 courses idc what i get in the courses lol, just makes my study terms lighter

[echo latch]

i have a hard no for courses during coop lol

[azure vortex]

yeah i tried it a few times

couldnt do it

i just wanted to chill

[echo latch]

i just go explore the city with all the new friends im making

[azure vortex]

me when only online coops

[limber dirge]

i did cs241 during my last coop and had way too much time and acc learned the course so im doing two this time

idk depends what course

[echo latch]

do a summer in-person internship

[azure vortex]

thats the plan