canada

[uneven vigil]

but the guy who is technical loved me

[eternal fossil]

are you a woman yourself?

[uneven vigil]

nope

[eternal fossil]

ive seen a bunch of my women friends get weird women interviewers

but the men are usually ecstatic

[worldly ridge]

Speakign from personal experience, I have a high chance of success when talking to women employers because of my physical looks and charismatic personality

@weak gazelle Can you relate?

[earnest mortar]

i can confirm i was the women employers

[grave quest]

based

[wheat comet]

are there still people hiring for the summer ?

[lucid berry]

Ye

In my city anyway, they start posting their summer internship in early winter

[vivid fiber]

Yup, check out: https://github.com/Queen-s-COMPSA/Canadian-Tech-Internships-2023

[eternal fossil]

goodluck with bell

[lunar sandal]

Real question should be

Has any1 heard back* ?

[eternal fossil]

is anyone truly heard ?

[tight gale]

Wtf is a 1 way screen

[edgy rose]

anybody done the RBC assessment?

[tight gale]

Iirc it was like puzzle games

[edgy rose]

Is it the one where you have to remember the position of the dots on the screen?

[edgy rose]

its not like this is it:

[lunar sandal]

LMFAOOO

Bro they’re throwing SAT questions

To swe intern candidates

😂😂😂😂

U cannot make this up. Bank hiring is actual asscheeks ( please give me a job )

[edgy rose]

ikr bro why does it have to be so hard

[ancient tartan]

Anyone got followup from meta? The regular internship

[lunar sandal]

Meta posting for Canada ???

Send link pls. I wasn’t able to find anything

[ancient tartan]

Not for Canada, it’s for US

Meta u and meta regular intern

[ancient tartan]

Just check the careers website of meta

[turbid island]

did u get an oa

[ancient tartan]

Of course not

[turbid island]

then it seems like canadians dont get oas?

or as a matter of fact any non americans

[ancient tartan]

Check the 23summer intern group you’ll find some people get oas

[ancient tartan]

I’m wondering about this

I got the referral today and just received the rejection

[turbid island]

oh rip

ggz

[vivid fiber]

I kno a few Canadians who got it

[turbid island]

loo/uoft?

[vivid fiber]

no

[turbid island]

do they care about urm

[ancient tartan]

I think the recruiter even didn’t see my resume

The rejection is so fast that I think it must not pass the machine review

[ancient tartan]

Citizens?

[turbid island]

but how do they know tho

i dont rmbr them asking

[ancient tartan]

Since there is no remote options, maybe meta only consider Canadian citizens?

[vivid fiber]

ye i tink

[turbid island]

are you int

[ancient tartan]

Yeah

[turbid island]

hmm maybe int status dont matter

i didnt get it either

[ancient tartan]

Anyway, the rejection comes so fast really hurts me🤣

[vivid fiber]

const DATEBRO: i32 = 5466;

[turbid island]

w/e im just ass

LMFAO

[ancient tartan]

I heard that meta almost only consider candidates got referral

[turbid island]

but these ppl gettin autos

so i doubt it matters

[ancient tartan]

Meta university’s is is auto

The regular internship is not

[turbid island]

oh

nvm then

[ancient tartan]

Are you international student bro?

[lucid berry]

Two of my friends got interview and offers from them

[uneven vigil]

they never replied to me applying full time as ng

[karmic mesa]

Do companies even care if u go to waterloo or uoft

Compared to like queens or smth

[uneven vigil]

UWaterloo at least seems to have a way superior internal job boards that us pleb can't access

[karmic mesa]

Like an external position I meant

[lunar sandal]

with the way things are going right now and in future, I can't imagine school name NOT being used as a metric to chop the applicant pool up

[lucid berry]

They do have an edge, I think

[barren sinew]

FAANG dont seem to care

[vivid fiber]

Waterloo and UofT do have an edge

But it is still def possible as a Queen's student or smth to get jobs

[vivid fiber]

R u a Queen's student?

[karmic mesa]

Uoft

lol

[lucid berry]

u good then

[karmic mesa]

just wondering if it’s even worth it

[vivid fiber]

Imo its not worth the stress

If ur dedicated enough, and willing to grind a bit of leetcode you can go far at worse schools

[uncut hornet]

anyone know if you can submit a referral for meta after you applied

[karmic mesa]

Agree

But o well

[vivid fiber]

You'll still be getting a good education and job opps

So it's def still a benefit

Congratz and gl 😊

[karmic mesa]

wholesome thank u❤️

[jaunty crystal]

Yes you also get a referral bonus if they land an offer and take the job (only applies to ft)

I think it was 3000usd for e3

[jaunty crystal]

They have an edge but lots of people from my school go into faang

(McMaster)

[uncut hornet]

i meant like attaching the referral to the application after it was submitted

[jaunty crystal]

Oh that im not sure

They’re hiring?

They just had layoffs

[old ferry]

mcmaster gang

gotta get out of the trenches

[jaunty crystal]

U in ur last sem right

[old ferry]

ya thankfully

[jaunty crystal]

Almost at the finish line. You got this 💪

[vivid fiber]

A few ppl from my skool go 2 amzn and msft

[jaunty crystal]

Do u go to a small uni?

[vivid fiber]

Queens

[jaunty crystal]

Oh y’all should be doing better than us lol

I swear ik like 10 ppl who got into meta alone

[vivid fiber]

we do overall

but for swe not rlly

our commerce program pops off

[jaunty crystal]

Ok true

Hmm Mac cs quite shit tbh

At least when I was there lmao

[vivid fiber]

Queens is worse

Queen's cs no longer offers a web dev or dist sys course

i was so sad wen they stopped offering dist sys too 😦

[jaunty crystal]

What’s dist sys?

[vivid fiber]

distributed systems

[jaunty crystal]

Oh

Idk if we have those at mac either tbh

Wait no we do

I just took mine on athabasca lol

[sleek echo]

hey guys

Are mass layoffs happening in Canada too???

[worldly ridge]

i work in a cnaadian company

just did a mass layoff :3

[shy scaffold]

the rumbling is here

its everhwh

[sleek echo]

damn!

[analog current]

when do fall apps usually open up?

[edgy rose]

if anyone here is going to interview with Carfax, don't.

[lunar sandal]

why not

[edgy rose]

I went through the full interview process which is 5 steps.
Recruiter Screen
General Coding Trivia Questions
A Pair Programming Interview
A Panel Behavioral Interview
A separate interview with the hiring manager

Since I made it to the last round, I figured I did well and the hiring manager met up with me specifically to say he really liked my interview and I was in the top 3 candidates. Told me they would have a decision by the next week

I was ghosted for 3 weeks with no response until I reached out and they said they are still deciding and then received an automated email 4 weeks later saying they went for someone else.

[lunar sandal]

oh bruh

wcyd bro

we're at the mercy of the employaz

esp during such a bad time in hiring

[edgy rose]

I dont have an issue with the interview since it was good experience but at least have the decency to write a personlized email

I spent 3 weeks interviewing with you

[lunar sandal]

just like an ex that u were with for 3 years and then they block u 😦

[edgy rose]

no this is associate swe

for the interview process itself, they told me they had just switched to hackerrank so they interviewer doesn't know the platform. We spent 15 minutes trying to figure out where the console is because the intervieiwer didn't know his own coding platform

and then he said, sorry we are out of time, we would like to move to the next question

you cant make this stuff up, im like, if you are choosing to interview candidates, at least know your platform so that they dont lose time

[lunar sandal]

it was a general recruiter that u were with during this time?

or was it a swe

prolly the former lol what am i asking

[edgy rose]

this is a team lead swe

[lunar sandal]

oh

lmfao

[edgy rose]

which is why i was dumbfounded

they be like, we reject your rejection so you can accept our rejection

i have 0 sympathy tbh

no ones safe from unemployment

[uneven vigil]

that was personal lol

[edgy rose]

lol yeah

[dawn tusk]

Is anyone getting project matching calls for google internship?

[ocean trellis]

@edgy rose When did you receive the reject?

[fickle lotus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Calgary/comments/10fevql/calgary_tech_layoffs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

The apocalypse is here

[ancient tartan]

only 10% people got

As far as I know, only one uoft ms got an match call as the regular swe intern in Canada

[dawn tusk]

Damnnn

But it has just started so theres still hope 🤞

[tight gale]

[edgy rose]

this is back in november

also like I wanna know if it is just me or is the response rate really bad all over canada?

[vivid fiber]

Shopify 😭

[graceful oyster]

wait what does the bill do

I just read up a little on it but I swear ive seen a few postings for QC that dont mention any french requirement

[edgy rose]

gonna be going to career fair tomorrow, any tips to make me stand out?

[lucid berry]

Wear an unicorn costume

[edgy rose]

Bruh

[worn moss]

is shopify not recruiting this season?

[vivid fiber]

Afaik no

[worn moss]

bro i didint even realize how bad the economy was until waterloo works opened up, the only big tech is apple

nah like in previous years apparently there was 150+ positions for faang now theres <10 big tech its ass, it's been on a decline for a while now

[novel dome]

Anyone got Td interview?

[novel dome]

Loo lookin like every other cad uni

10 more than mine still

[worn moss]

realistically tho the applicant pool is so much harder to compete with that u prolly have better chances landing apple externally (apple hires 5 swe on ww, they hire 100+ externally)

bro

[novel dome]

Fax

[worn moss]

5 big tech positions for the applicant pool at loo makes it useless, 99.99% of the ppl ik landing smthg good, are applying externally

bro we used to have uber, meta, google, airbnb, Paypal, Tesla, IBM, Shopify, jane street, hrt, citadel etc. they all used to save 5+ positions just for waterloo each season

now all we really get is banks and shitty startups which u have at ever other uni

[drifting shore]

100 TD openings

[novel dome]

2 r swe 😭

They better be hiring 1000 for each

[worn moss]

(that was just for the swe position there was way more then that in total) but like they hire a good amount on other university portals and i doubt that number is acc tru

[drifting shore]

That’s still not enough

[uncut hornet]

I did hear ww was bad this season

[worn moss]

get ur resume roasted hella, put 2024 grad date and ur guaranteed atleast 5 interviews

[uncut hornet]

hopefully just a temporary thing tho

[fickle lotus]

How long has the employer quality been declining for? Just recently with the layoffs?

[worn moss]

every semester u notice more then a couple companies going off ww, but this term its been realllly bad

IBM? they didint let u negotiate it to 8 or 4?

[uncut hornet]

freshman ml research

wtf

[worn moss]

what grad date have u been using

[uncut hornet]

and u were going to get the offer too

too cracked man

[worn moss]

yea bro switch back to 2024

dont listen to windex (no need to be ethical lmao)

u wont get rescinded worst case is like u get the interview and they ask ur start date for uni and then u say 2022, and they're just gonna question it and then u say ur anticipating a 2024 grad date, and they might take not take u to the next round thats it

if ur anticipating 2024

no one can tell u otherwise

nah lmao this is where u might start fucking up cause ur legitimately lying

[barren sinew]

Does end date matter that much?

[worn moss]

thats fine

btw dont put start date on ur resume

and only talk about it if mentioned

like genuinely try to avoid it

[uncut hornet]

kinda, depends on company

[worn moss]

but if it ever comes up u have to say the truth (2022)

[uncut hornet]

most big tech do prefer earlier grad dates

[graceful oyster]

they assume if its your last internship youll more likely take a return offer full time with them instead of leaving

[worn moss]

my resume is not cracked(2 small startups and side projects) but with a 2024 grad date i was able to land binance, cruise, two sigma etc. interviews, ive seen people with way better resumes but 2025 grad date not land any interviews

i think its the most important thing for landing interviews

[vivid fiber]

Just put 24

[topaz linden]

Flawed logic

ww is the easiest way to get any job that’s available externally

[sudden spruce]

Doubt

[worn moss]

no lol it never was the only quant company on ww rn is drw and theyre only hiring one person

[lunar sandal]

AND theyre only hiring 3rd-4th years

got rejected cuz of my graduation date

[hazy heath]

I started applying to Canadian companies yesterday, is it too late??😭

[lucid berry]

No

[hazy heath]

When do people usually do the interviews and get offers? Do people wait until March/April?

[lucid berry]

It's pretty soon after they applied if they do get an interview

[hazy heath]

Thanks for the info!!

[earnest mortar]

Anyone get a wealthsimple rejection today?

[oak horizon]

i applied last week and haven't heard back

[earnest mortar]

I feel like i got insta rejected by some metric, like grad date or smth

[graceful oyster]

did anyone try to join this ripplematch event and get a 404 error?

[vivid fiber]

I'd assume they want FAANG or smth

Or rip den

Prob just high competition

[earnest mortar]

Idk ye

[edgy rose]

Thanks again for your interest in working with us.

My last 10 emails

[grave quest]

WS Rejects coming

[worn moss]

bro i applied in october and haven’t heard back wtf

[edgy rose]

I just spoke to an Interac recruiter

[worn moss]

nah

i cold emailed

then i got a referral

then applied through the regular link

then applied again through waterloo works

and still no response

bro i swear i’m doing everything possible to get wealthsimple but they just don’t want me

[edgy rose]

Asked her I applied haven't got a response - she said you are not good enough and apply elsewhere.
Not making this shit up

[worn moss]

lmaooo

cold messages don’t work on linkedin

gotta get on the email grind

[edgy rose]

I said lady I have 5 internships under by belt wtf do you want in a new grad. SHe went on about how its a red flag that I don't do backend in Java.

[worn moss]

yea

[worn moss]

i originally applied with 2024 grad date tho for ws

through ww i had to reapply with 2027

idk bro ima email her again rn

[edgy rose]

can you give me a referrel for google

[worn moss]

get better resume writing skills lmao

my experience is pretty shit compared to actual 2024s but as soon as i put 2024 interviews started coming

yea i think most US companies filled their quota by now

it’s just canadian companies that are still hiring

[vivid fiber]

Nah, a bunch more have opened recently

Plenty of opps

[uneven vigil]

4 real, any websites that offer "easy apply" like Simplify or LinkedIn Easy Apply are impossible to get in

[vivid fiber]

Simplify doesn't offer Easy Apply?

It just autofills

[uneven vigil]

easy-ish

[vivid fiber]

Autofill is not the same as easy apply

Becuz u can use autofill on most apps lol

[uneven vigil]

oh my bad, let me rephrase, Simplify job boards is very hard to get noticed lol

they are all top paying jobs

[vivid fiber]

I still disagree tho

[uneven vigil]

you can disagree with me on this

[vivid fiber]

Cuz they just link to the site?

[uneven vigil]

I don't know if it's Simplify crawler who added it, or someone manually from the company in question added it

[vivid fiber]

Crawler

[uneven vigil]

because apparently, Hedge Funds know about levels.fyi, so they are making sure they on top it now

[vivid fiber]

Ok 😃 👍

[uneven vigil]

oh fun fact, corporate lawyers make more than us, it's not just SWE in the top salary game lol

[vivid fiber]

Ok 😃 👍

[storm stream]

👍🏼

[worldly ridge]

Ok 👍

[eternal fossil]

i may be the first man in history to receive 2 rejections from separate companies within 1 minute

[barren sinew]

I know a patent law intern making around 45/hr. They hate the atmosphere around the industry though

[uneven vigil]

yeah, it's around that,

my friend she went to Sherbrooke, took the corporate law program

now has a job at downtown Montreal in corporate law

[barren sinew]

Yea true. SWE is currently the most risk averse way to a high salary

Tangential to your point, but the patent lawyer I know is a CS grad. So maybe law is in our future when the AIs take over

[lucid berry]

I didn't get wealthsimple reject

[edgy rose]

Ahh yes CS grads take over bay street

[lunar sandal]

How to go from not having an internship at 19, to making 300k at 25

Simple sol: exist in California

[drifting shore]

have a trust from your parents that gives you 300k a year when you turn 25

[earnest mortar]

I didn’t know their apps came out in oct lol

[upper linden]

any1 got a reply from drw after the oa?

[drifting shore]

I just got it

💀

[drifting shore]

How many problems? Gonna do it tomorrow

[wet sleet]

Nah bro

What position

My is 50 min so I think 1 question

[drifting shore]

Full stack

[wet sleet]

Okay same

[mental monolith]

holy hell still no OA/interviews

how everyone doing here

[earnest mortar]

smae

same

[lucid berry]

for intern?

[mental monolith]

ft

i finished my courses last dec

been doing jackshit for almost a month now

feels bad

ubc

wbu

i see i see

[grave quest]

is the one way interview for ontario teachers pension plan just you answering pre-recorded questions?

[lucid berry]

Ye

Apparently

[novel dome]

Anyone done KPMG OA?

[lunar sandal]

Where tf is this posting ??

I can’t find it

[vapid latch]

me

i got the email yesterday

[worn moss]

my frirend did it today its hella light

[analog current]

how is ubc?

I am interested in cpen

[mental monolith]

Hard to compare as i've never been anywhere else lmaooo

It's fine

[analog current]

Are u cpen or cs lol

My top 2 choices are ubc, Waterloo but I applied uoft for funsies

With whatever this is

[limber dirge]

external interviews are/have been out WW will prob be in the next few days

[distant gazelle]

its 2022 part 2

😢

[lucid berry]

[lunar sandal]

does it seem fucking impossible to anyone else? im in 2nd year and its just rejection rejection ghost ghost

[oblique crater]

prayin for you g, what kinda dev job are you looking for

[edgy rose]

same

[ashen mason]

Canada a little safer. We are cheap talent

[lunar sandal]

u shud ask what firms are actively replying

[tight gale]

Anyone hiring ft rn

[edgy rose]

did anyone get intuit rejection today

[limber dirge]

external app?

[drifting shore]

another KPMG hackerrank

[frozen brook]

Just got kpmg OA

[drifting shore]

i hate database questions

[distant gazelle]

wondering the same

what job boards do you guys search on? linkedin, indeed ? anything else

[frozen brook]

Mostly just those

And i just search software intern

And do the ones that have been posted within the past 2-3 days

[lunar sandal]

oh my god

kpmg hackerrank

any

any tippers

[vapid latch]

i heard it was very easy and had sql question

gonna do my kpmg today or tmrw

[lunar sandal]

bro idk any sql

GG

[vapid latch]

rip

also does ur invitation to the hackerrank say “Full Stack Developer HackerRank”

i’m pretty sure i applied to coop but it just says regular full stack

[lunar sandal]

campus

hackerrank eval

[drifting shore]

gonna do it in the next hour

[lunar sandal]

wait when is it due

[vapid latch]

oh no its campus

maybe i applied to wrong one

[lunar sandal]

holy FUCK

we only got 2 days to do it

[vapid latch]

yea i think its easy

[lunar sandal]

well guess i gotta learn sql in 15 mins

[vapid latch]

can u share the link u used to apply

wait nvm i did apply to the right thing

i think its fine

[drifting shore]

im so bad at sql

i was trying every permutation of keywords

[wet sleet]

sql damn

[vapid latch]

wym in sql?

[drifting shore]

im bad at mysql and was trying every possible way to use a keyword and slowly working towards the answer

[vapid latch]

ohhhh gotcha

yea i understand its hard to rmbr, the only reason im okay with it is cause i just finished a database class last semester

where we used sql

[drifting shore]

my only knowledge of sql comes from w3schools

[vapid latch]

T-T

[drifting shore]

the algo questions are easy tho

[vapid latch]

oh thats good

havent done LC in like 2 weeks, hope ill be ok

[drifting shore]

same

u will be fine

[vapid latch]

ty

[broken onyx]

@uneven vigil hey check ur dms lol

Man OAs are brutal

Sometimes I wonder if i have what it takes to be a dev

[vapid latch]

depends.....i heard companies manually review if the hr score is between 50% - 90%

below that its auto reject, above that probably auto pass

[edgy rose]

It gets better my guy

I bombed my first codility so bad the engineers took 4 business days to get back to me 😂

[broken onyx]

XD

Yeah hopefully i gets better

[edgy rose]

Also idk what's going on but I see people telling me they just passed OAs because they copy pasted code from the internet.

I'd rather fail than go that low

[drifting shore]

more leetcode

[drifting shore]

tbh i think most ppl cheat for non-proctored oa

[edgy rose]

Codility records every keystroke

[hallow urchin]

Anyone do KPMG hackerrank

[mental monolith]

anything really, i'm pretty much applying to whatever linkedin recommends me via "new x software developer jobs!"

preferably maybe backend? but front/fullstack is fine too

[lunar sandal]

Gonna do it today probs

[limber dirge]

coderpad, hackerrank, codesignal all record key strokes and copy pastes. all mouse movement is tracked and when the tab goes unfocused

[hallow urchin]

thats why u use a totally diff computer 😉

[vapid latch]

just did it, its very easy

[lunar sandal]

what abt the sql

[lunar sandal]

Rejecteddddd for not being a 3rd year + 😊😊😊😊

[vapid latch]

what u got an auto rejection after the OA?

oh wait sry this might be a differetn place

what job application sites u guys use aside from linkedin

[vivid fiber]

https://github.com/Queen-s-COMPSA/Canadian-Tech-Internships-2023

[grave quest]

yep, reject.

I think I didnt ace q3 and maybe thats why. (3rd year cs major)

[wet sleet]

the sql 😭 thou

[drifting shore]

The sql😭

[ancient tartan]

not yet, but one of my friend got the vo for devops intern

[vapid latch]

oh boy was it bad @wet sleet @drifting shore

[wet sleet]

ive never done sql before so the technical parts messed me up

i could tell it was easy but i just didnt know how to use those keys

[vapid latch]

ahhh i’m sorry

[drifting shore]

We are bad at sql

[crude saddle]

is the sql in kpmg hackerrank easy enough that I can do it after looking at the sql wikipedia article for 1 hour

[drifting shore]

Nope

[mental monolith]

Inbox looking grim once again

Maybe i'll apply to non-cs jobs as well

[echo latch]

It’s the weekend

[mental monolith]

Oh true

I lost track of time

What 0 routine does to a mf

[drifting shore]

Ye, are u ok?

0

[vapid latch]

apparently not

but its just joining on properties

[drifting shore]

tle on the weekly’s lc hard with the optimal time complexity

cpp

[vapid latch]

has anyone that applied to TD for summer 2023 internships have their application status as Under Consideration

I applied Dec 15 and it still just says Applied....how long does it take them to review this?

[vapid latch]

same with Scotiabank and BMO, anyone heard back yet? specifically for software developer roles

[vivid fiber]

The unfortunate fact is that a lot of places will ghost you

While applying for internships you should just fill the application as fast as possible and assume u wer rejected

A lot of places will not respond back, and it is prob better to assume reject unless proven otherwise

You can try to cold email/message recruiters to expedite your application but that is far from a guarantee

[vapid latch]

yea for most places id agree but for these big canadian banks ive heard they give out offers in like march

so i think they havent even begun reviewing applications

[vivid fiber]

I nvr heard back from any of these places...

[vapid latch]

its the same for me and all my friends that applied

[vivid fiber]

When I applied

So again, I would just keep it out of mind and out of sight

[vapid latch]

but i did an OA for scotiabank tho

ig ill just wait and see

[vivid fiber]

One other thing to note is some companies send out automatic-oas

Meaning getting an oa (and even getting a good score) is not a means to the next round

[vapid latch]

🤷🏽‍♀️

kinda doubt it for scotiabank at the very least

[vivid fiber]

I haven't done intern oas in a year so idk lol

[vapid latch]

yea

[vivid fiber]

Just lettin u kno

[vapid latch]

well if anyone else gets an update on these banks and their applications, ping me

[worn moss]

to intern @ BMO u need a referral, i was talking to som1 who interned there every1 he knew interning there got in through a referral

[vapid latch]

damn anyone wanna hand out referrals then

[smoky plover]

same for me 😞 apparently TD only has 2 recruiters so it’s probably taking them a while to get through everything

[mental monolith]

OAs don't always mean they'll even send a rejection email

Happened to me a few times now

[vapid latch]

geeez

[mental monolith]

If i don't get any sort of response within 2 weeks of any app

I'll assume I'm rejected and move on

[vapid latch]

well i assume its prob less than a month that my application has been processed. because i applied right before xmas and new years

but yea

[mental monolith]

Just 1 app out of many

Don't put too much thought into it

We're just numbers

[lunar sandal]

0 offers

zero.

[vapid latch]

im gonna reach out to a scotiabank recruiter

[vapid latch]

im aware

[naive tulip]

nah nah I know someone who got BMO offer through cold apply

for ppl interning in Toronto, where did you guys find your housing?

[worn moss]

i wish this works

[vapid latch]

it can!

[worn moss]

cold emailing worked once and got me an internship but every cold email ive sent after has gotten me a shitty response or just egoed

[worldly ridge]

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/2023/01/21/closing-the-beloved-harbourfront-skating-rink-raises-the-question-who-is-toronto-for.html

The end is truly here guys

[vivid fiber]

Read the following article:
https://www.cscareers.dev/blog/landing-software-engineer-interviews-through-cold-emailing

Then use the advice from there plus the following platforms to find emails:
https://www.apollo.io/
https://connect.clearbit.com/
https://salesql.com/

[turbid island]

should create an automatic email sender just like simplify

[vivid fiber]

That would b a cool side project

[edgy rose]

what did the recruiter say

Mine just went ignored

or got answered after the job posting expried

[vivid fiber]

My experience is that you need to send out a lot to hear any response at all

Most of mine were ignored

[leaden acorn]

use gpt3

the problem with cold emailing is that most people don’t do it well and it’s really easy to tell it’s automated

I try responding to as many people as I can personally, but if I get low quality cold emails I just ignore and move it to spam

Like Mozilla?

ah

Well yes, but also no at the same time. Is your primary browser safari?

[turbid island]

yeah i kinda wanna try

[leaden acorn]

theoretically, we should be able to port the extension over as is, but Apple has it’s own unique problems

[turbid island]

isnt that more boiler plate?

tried to write an email with it and it sounded weird

[leaden acorn]

Not if you add context

Use chatgpt

And post their entire LinkedIn

Like copy paste

And ask it to make it personalized

[turbid island]

ok icic thanks

[leaden acorn]

or if they have website

whatever information you can get essentially

I’ll look into it though!

Last time we tried pubbing Apple was being mad annoying because the chrome extension did not port over perfectly

And they wanted us to perfect it for safari

Our own browser survey found that 90% of ppl were using chrome anyways

But it’s also possible that’s biased because it doesn’t work on safari

Have you tried Firefox?

Yep!

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simplify-jobs/

Mozilla probably has the best developer environment

For everything

Their docs are detailed and they have dev friendly tools

Apple and Google are miles behind on developer friendly tooling

[frozen brook]

Sorry didnt see, but it was okay, basic logic, pattern manipulation, and sql query

How'd you do

[analog current]

guys this is an emergency meeting ‼️ 🚨

what companies are fully remote, have good wlb, and pay 100k+

[vivid fiber]

Not many dat are hiring...

[analog current]

in general

i graduate next year

[vivid fiber]

Shopify, Affirm?, Uber?, Brex

[earnest mortar]

shop pays over 100? o.o

[vivid fiber]

Ye iirc

[worldly ridge]

I think someone here mentioned that shop pays over 100 for well performing return interns some time ago

[earnest mortar]

damn i thought they only paid like 90 last year

[earnest mortar]

ah ok only for "well performing return interns"

[south rose]

anyone filing their taxes in US from Canada?

i had a return shopify offer if anyone got questions

[analog current]

pay and prev exp before getting ur internship offer if u dont mind

[south rose]

the offer was 115k

[analog current]

mashallah

[south rose]

very low 😓

[analog current]

no other offers?

[lunar sandal]

is this intern or ng

[south rose]

yes did not reply to them

lol

new grad, returning

[lunar sandal]

wew

nvm then

[south rose]

this was 2020 i think

2020 or 2021

[analog current]

oh thats different then

[south rose]

did they raise the pay?

[analog current]

nah i doubt theyre even hiring now

[south rose]

company was shit anyways

[analog current]

but ive heard of higher offers since then

[south rose]

just avoid

[analog current]

how many internships did u have before u landed ur first internship there

[south rose]

it took me 3 apps

[lunar sandal]

intern market will only get harder

[south rose]

i had about 1 year experience, 4 months intern and the rest full time

for the year then i switched over

[analog current]

i see

[analog current]

im scared shitless

[south rose]

itll recover

[analog current]

i think i should be ok in terms of being employed

but i rly want a remote offer

[south rose]

Many companies hiring

its just the ones who over hired during covid doing layoff

[analog current]

im doing rbc now going to cisco in the summer

[south rose]

just getting rid of bloat.

[lunar sandal]

damn u got ciso

i bombed my cisco oa in september

cuz i didnt know wtf backtracking was

[analog current]

tryna get a better company for fall

bro

if i tell u

i didnt even get an oa

[lunar sandal]

are u 3rd year

[analog current]

ya

[lunar sandal]

that explains it

[south rose]

yall got this

just keep going

[vapid latch]

how was the application process with rbc?

[analog current]

applied and got the interview the same day

1 1 hour interview

then offer

[lunar sandal]

damn lucky

[analog current]

i applied with referral tho

[vapid latch]

11 hour???

[analog current]

no 1 hour

[vapid latch]

lmao ok

wow lucky

[analog current]

a single 1 hour interview

lol

[vapid latch]

yea thats great

ig i needed referrals

sighh

[analog current]

linkedin

spam ppl

[vapid latch]

i dont think i can retroactively apply it

[lunar sandal]

what a soulcrushing line of work

anyways..any referral handouts? 🙂

[vapid latch]

yeah i have 5 active job applications w rbc

[analog current]

im not sure if i can refer as a co op student but if i can i can give rbc referrals

[vapid latch]

only 1 is under review, the rest are "applied"

[lunar sandal]

bro coop apps are rejecting me 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

wealthsimple, seismic

[analog current]

im ngl i got rly lucky

[lunar sandal]

NVIDIA (cuz i got no lwo level exp)

[analog current]

thank god

i did like 30 apps and got 2.5 offers

but most were with referrals

[vapid latch]

jesus

[analog current]

referrals are OP for some companies

[vapid latch]

yea

atp im just bracing for no internship in summer

if that happens just gonna go live w my aunt in florida for all 4 months

😴

[analog current]

try to get a research assistantship

thats the only exp i had on my resume

[vapid latch]

i have 3 internships already

[analog current]

and i got amazon, rbc, cisco offers

[vapid latch]

on my resume

[analog current]

oof wth is this market

[vapid latch]

yup

[analog current]

god help us

[vapid latch]

😭

[lunar sandal]

WTF

waterloo kid spotte

s

D

[vapid latch]

i wish

but yeah i literally have previous experience to show for my skills, i have no idea why the response rate is so bad still T-T

ughh

[lunar sandal]

WCYD

[grave quest]

i have 16, praying for one

[frozen brook]

i got 3 prev as well and only 1 offer this year from around 300 apps :(

its just a badddd year

[vapid latch]

yeeeesh

[real storm]

wait for ng

cause on god I got three internships but you're boy cant even catch his breath out here rn

[analog current]

thats why im banking on a return offer

im hoping i can get me a remote company for fall 2023 so i can grind my ass off and get a return offer

[vapid latch]

what is ng?

[barren sinew]

Cisco ng has that in the US

So maybe try to hit up your coop manager?

[analog current]

new grad

[analog current]

ya i would

we'll see how this co-op goes

[edgy rose]

Bruh Toronto sucks ass

This city hadn't seen the sun in 3 weeks, I hope I get job in Vancouver (manifesting)

[earnest mortar]

they get sun in vancouver?

[earnest mortar]

FACTS

[earnest mortar]

well technically we had a hint of sunshine last week for like 1 or 2 days

[edgy rose]

For tech sure, but God damn this place is a shit hole to live in

Everything is mega exp, rent prices are ungodly and the weather sucks

[edgy rose]

Those 2 days, I think last weekend it was were the happiest days of the 2023 for me

Fr tho because the sun just decides to dip by 430

[earnest mortar]

and i used to be a lifeguard so i crave the sun like dracula craves darkness

nah more like 4, you can't get proper sunlight by like 4 or 3:30

especially if ur in downtown

[edgy rose]

Ahh yes DT forsure diff story

[worldly ridge]

....

[earnest mortar]

[vapid latch]

toronto

i feel like im fighting for my life every time i go on TTC

[worldly ridge]

@weak gazelle Once downotown toronto have nearby badminton courts, it might be a worldclass city

Otherwise, its never a world class city

[vapid latch]

world class garbage on the streets

[worldly ridge]

^^^

[edgy rose]

Ain't nothing world class about Toronto

[worldly ridge]

At this point just move to NYC if you like city life imo

[vapid latch]

isnt NYC worse

[worldly ridge]

depends if you like city life

[vapid latch]

their subway system is like COD lobby

[edgy rose]

POV: you're on TTC and some random dude wakes up and starts swearing at everybodyy

[worldly ridge]

My friends sister was in the previous subway shooting, it does make me scared

[vapid latch]

bruh i was on the street cars last summer at night w my buddy, and this guy starts cursing all gays

and im like

i think i had a rainbow keychain on my backpack, i was nervous

[edgy rose]

Yea Toronto is all crazziess

[vapid latch]

yea

[edgy rose]

You have to be really careful, I never listen to music on the ttc

Or when walking DT

[earnest mortar]

why lol

[edgy rose]

Well I commute at like 10 pm it's not the safest at that time lol

Ymmv but I've seen some crazy dudes on the train at that time so I just keep the earphones out 😅

It wasn't like this 2 years ago

Dk what happened

[earnest mortar]

i've never had an altercation with a lunatic in the ttc yet

cocaine and heroine are both quite the drugs tho loool

[oblique crater]

bro you guys are mad spoiled

toronto is literally an elite city, there are lunatics in every canadian city

expensive and bad weather are fair points but not exclusive to toronto

[edgy rose]

That's good

[earnest mortar]

is vancouver weather good?

[earnest mortar]

yet 😆

[edgy rose]

Yes bro just stop 😅

[earnest mortar]

[edgy rose]

This is a good point, Toronto is great for those who want the buzzing city life. It mimics America alot more

More than Quebec anyways

[oblique crater]

if you love endless cloudy and rainy days

[vapid latch]

i went to van for vacation last summer

personally it felt much safer and cleaner

than toronto

[oblique crater]

western canada in the summer >

[vapid latch]

public transit was actually not a living shit hole

[oblique crater]

van probably has a higher homeless population per capita for sure

it is warmer year round

and the TTC is honestly the first or second best public transit system in canada and it's not really close after vancouver and toronto, that should maybe give you an idea how horrible they are in the other cities

[edgy rose]

Are you from raincouver?

@oblique crater

My friend goes to ubc he doesn't like it there

[worldly ridge]

homelessness got so bad ever since the pandemic

[oblique crater]

nah, berta 🤠

or at least living here

[edgy rose]

Facts

[hot rapids]

I feel this 😭
Internship response rate is so poor even with prior internships for summer 2023

[vapid latch]

ikr 💀

[topaz linden]

Where’d u end up working

[south rose]

Goat

[vapid latch]

https://www.mydayforce.com/CandidatePortal/en-us/mydayforce/site/alljobs/Posting/View/46583 does this link work for anyone :/

when i get redirected to the job app page it just shows nothing

[tawny zephyr]

did anyone do cohere interview

[analog current]

yo @tawny zephyr

hows it been

have u graduated yet

[tawny zephyr]

no

grade 11

i got a verbal offer (i think?) so i was askinf

[tawny zephyr]

p nice

just hs

and hackathons

and a few good things here and theee

[oak bone]

from cohere?

[tawny zephyr]

ye at uofthacks

[oak bone]

Goat

Cohere is based company

Their chatbot is better than gpt imo

[analog current]

ur cracked mashallah

defo landing HRT

cohere in gr11, some other company in gr12

ur going into uni with more internships people leave uni with lol

[tawny zephyr]

yea i agree

[analog current]

if you land google step first year its ggs

[tawny zephyr]

nothing is set yet bro 😭

[analog current]

regardless

[tawny zephyr]

they said they may interview me

cuz they dont hire hsers

but i think the woman was from HR

[analog current]

just the awareness u have

yk the ins and outs

[tawny zephyr]

yea thanks

[analog current]

90% of people at my uni dont know what leetcode is

[tawny zephyr]

yea i am very lucky

[analog current]

good luck bro, you'll crush it ✊

[tawny zephyr]

ty 🙏

[lunar sandal]

How the fuck does an Hs kid

Get into UofT hacks

And a UofT student

Gets rejected

this is actual jokes

And how’d they pick you

Out of everyone else at the event

For an offer

Just very curious

Oh wait it wasn’t resume based app nvm xd

[worldly ridge]

I mentored @tawny zephyr

[tawny zephyr]

ppl got rejected ?

[tawny zephyr]

true

[tawny zephyr]

so basically

i went to cohere sponsor booth

to ask a question

and some girl in front of me was having a question so she was asking them

the employee that was helping her was having a bit of trouble

so i was like excuse me sorry for interrupting but can i help i think ik how to solve this

and the recruiter heard me

and she was like “you’re hired”

and i was like haha cuz i thought she was joking

and she wasnt

wasnt

went from there

[lunar sandal]

wow

What was the problem

was it two sum

[south rose]

is this scotiabank

[oblique crater]

Ash got a main character moment lmfao

[tawny zephyr]

no she was trying to implement some cohere feature

and some backend stuff

[tawny zephyr]

cohere

[south rose]

i remember

scoitabank at a hackathon

was handing out internships like candy

[tawny zephyr]

😭😭

[tawny zephyr]

which hackathon

[south rose]

if someone solved the trivia question they were like

YOU ARE HIRED

[tawny zephyr]

what should i email her tho

cuz she gave me her email

[south rose]

hey nice meeting you are X, very interested in the internship. Heres my rsume

maybe mention the problem

[oblique crater]

yeah mention the encounter

[eternal fossil]

Yo

Finally got an OA

after a dry spell

It’s from Texas Instruments

Anyone else do that or

[oak bone]

why were they working on their backend at the hackathon 😭

Email her tho asap @tawny zephyr

[tawny zephyr]

no not their backend

a participant of the hackathon asked an employee a question about cohere because they were using it in their project

[tawny zephyr]

ye ye I will

but anyone done an interview with em before?

[edgy rose]

I applied to cgi 5 times with referral and each time got a rejection.

cgi is supposed to be easy

i got rbc assessment waiting for hearing back

lemme check

well workdays website is down

but i believe it was 2 weeks ago? This is a NG position

[wet sleet]

anyone interviewed for guidewire?

[eternal fossil]

I must request again if anyone did texas instruments process

[lunar sandal]

We are receiving a high volume of requests and thank you for your patience. We know how tedious the requesting process is

SAME

[tawny zephyr]

yea idk its crazy

is CGI better or cohere

idk she said maybe cuz i am a hser

but for CGI i have a straight offer

[eternal fossil]

huawei is so goated for having the most basic simple application process

put your name email and CV

and youre done

no hassles

[tawny zephyr]

yea i havent emailed her shit yet tho

what to say

and if i should attach my resume or not

k

lmaoo

[worn moss]

idk but yo did u get perfect on the oa for them?

[lost wedge]

after completing the OA for scotiabank did anyone got interview?

after completing the OA for Activision(Demonware) did anyone got the interview?

[candid oxide]

Ye oa was pretty easy

[worn moss]

i got perfect on the codility a while back but still no response

[worn moss]

is this for the c++ software dev position?

i fucked up on the 3rd questions the one with limit order books

i dont remember y

[candid oxide]

nah I did python prob diff oa

oh wait

[lost wedge]

Recruiter contacted me but she said few days ago that she is still reviewing resumes

[candid oxide]

That’s same q

[worn moss]

they have python???????

bro

[candid oxide]

there was a couple diff cases but it was just fixing stuff up

[worn moss]

i had to do the oa in c++ with 0 c++ experience

[lost wedge]

did anyone got any interview or OA for huawei COOP?

[oblique crater]

that's cracked af

[junior shore]

hey so for those who had a wealthsimple interview how long did it take them to get back to you?

[storm stream]

Anyone interview with WS who isn't from Waterloo?

[worn moss]

ik som1 @ uoft interviewing with them rn

[storm stream]

oh right they like UofT also

[worn moss]

im at loo rn i applied with a referral + cold emailed to get early link + applied regularly + applied thorugh waterloo works and still havent heard back, i think it just comes down to ur resume tbh

[storm stream]

FAK

[storm stream]

It's so freaking rough out there damn

[analog current]

https://i.imgur.com/xQGdQ1V.jpg

idk where to put this

[worn moss]

this is hella old

[analog current]

it is

[worn moss]

and just isnt tru iirc

someone proved it to be fake or smthg

[analog current]

oh damn i gotta check that out

https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/sm12n4/excluding_ivies_what_are_the_top_cs_schools/ I was just browsing here

[worn moss]

yea this is kinda outdaded the reason ppl rank loo so high is cause of the coop but the coop is just terrible now in comparison to the past, the only good thing abt it imo is that so many ppl around u are grinding for internships that ur motivated/have to aswell

[analog current]

i def agree, i think Americans can romanticize the 6 internships that are mandatory but not the intense difficulty to actually obtain them in this age

that has got to be the most stressful thing i see from the outside looking in

[storm stream]

what's a top tier place*

[analog current]

like even if I get into Waterloo idk if I will attend bc idk if it would make me happy lol

[worn moss]

eh

u already have cracked exp which means u wont be struggling to get coops and will be able to make the most out of the time given to u to do internships

[analog current]

that’s kinda why i feel like i don’t need to go to Waterloo

[worn moss]

nah i mean like yea ur right u dont need it

[analog current]

like i can go somewhere else and be happy

[jovial shard]

yeah i got interview

[worn moss]

but it can help u more

[worldly ridge]

Go to laurier instead

[analog current]

I def agree

[analog current]

I’ve never looked into it lol - I applied uoft ubc waterloo no backups

[worn moss]

bruh

y

[worldly ridge]

only go if you want a chill school

[analog current]

I can only do this bc i know I fit a quota lol

[worn moss]

^ my friends at laurier do 0 work and just go to cif all day

[worn moss]

do canadian unis acc have quotas like that?

[worldly ridge]

I can relate, but i play badminton at CIF

[worn moss]

thats only cause youve experienced working, its the same thing no matter where u go

[analog current]

For indigenous students specifically, uoft and ubc have different application requirements

How is mr cl

[worn moss]

nah i deadass camp the soccer fields

[worn moss]

thats proper

[worldly ridge]

you guys have proper athletic facilities though

[analog current]

Like I’ve gotten racist comments about it before, but shouldn’t it be made easy to access education with the history of residential schools? There was a massive barrier before

Is he ok

I thought he was doing well bc he got a msft oa

Like, in the cssi server he doesn’t talk ab why he’s not getting internships

I like him though

[worn moss]

nah its def a bare minimum imo lmao indigenous ppl we're literally forced to assimilate by going to residential schools, rejecting them access to education would be fucked

[analog current]

imagine getting rejected to all 3 LMFAOOOOO

i see

he has a good resume though

tbh i would repeat a year

come in w a better work ethic

i aint the man tho

i have a friend at queens but he suggested that i dont go for no reason

lol

[limber dirge]

after applying?

[junior shore]

after first interview

[analog current]

A dif environment I would say

[limber dirge]

did round 1 friday heard back for phone today

[analog current]

I would…

[lunar sandal]

bro what the fuckk

why is the minimum huawei is doing 8 months

[junior shore]

dopeeee

[limber dirge]

did you finish your pair programming round?

[junior shore]

yeah i did td

[limber dirge]

nicee

havent rly found other people being interviewed yet lol

[junior shore]

ngl kinda looking forward to the 2nd interview if i get it

lmao

[limber dirge]

yeahh its way more chill

[junior shore]

for sure

and i can finally find a use for my project i did in the summer 😂

[limber dirge]

lool fr i love project demos

although my pair programming was super chill too interviewer was a G

[junior shore]

its great man

bro me too

he said he found it fun to watch me code LOL

[limber dirge]

LOL thats sick

who was your interviewers initials?

KN?

[junior shore]

lemme check

nah it wasnt

[limber dirge]

ahh okok diff people but thats good wealthsimple got a lot of chill interviewers

[junior shore]

thats good tho that means theres lots of chill ppl at ws 😎

yeeeeeeee

well, hope to see you at ws 🫡

[limber dirge]

frr you too

anyone hear from intuit?

[echo latch]

Canadian companies don’t want me

[jovial shard]

has anyone had demonware activision interview here i have it tmr

[vivid fiber]

I am a 4th year Queen's student so I feel like I can contribute to the convo

Queen's is a shit school and you won't learn anything of value here

However it has a great social scene and the classes are a breeze

So what you lose in terms of a good formal education you make up for in plenty of free time, fun, and lack of stress

I personally chose Queen's over other schools for those reasons (though I would've chosen Loo if i got in lol)

[drifting shore]

The ta with 1000+ lc before second year

[vivid fiber]

The most cracked ppl at Queens dont do much lc lmaooo

[drifting shore]

[vivid fiber]

Like the guy who helped me make coursecentral

barely does LC afaik

lc grinding != success

most people only do the lc grind when they got an interview coming up

altho nothing wrong with doing it for fun

[eternal fossil]

facts

too many ppl i know didnt have to do LC

im the only one from my group that has done a decent bit of it

[storm stream]

wheres this from btw?

[storm stream]

amazon canada wants you ❤️

[echo latch]

American company still

[lucid berry]

My blockchain AI/ML database startup wants you

[analog current]

i cant find the official poster, i just found this off of reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/sm12n4/excluding_ivies_what_are_the_top_cs_schools/

[analog current]

i kinda want the social life more than the academics tbh lol

[storm stream]

it's from blind.... seems cap

[analog current]

https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/sm12n4/comment/hvu8car/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

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