canada

[azure spire]

i mean that's what most queries can technically be

a single line lol

even the tricky ones

[grave quest]

nice seeing you here

[analog current]

did u do the OA

[grave quest]

yea

[analog current]

how was it

[wet sleet]

anyone done the CN video interview

[hallow urchin]

i did it today

it was fine, like 3-4 questions on urself including why u wanna work for that company

[hallow urchin]

yeah its just a behavioural pretty okay

now im wondering if there is a technical coming up

[grave quest]

v easy

sql was 10 minutes

coding took me like 5 mins a q

[echo latch]

good

how r u

[real storm]

anyone interview with Konrad Group?

[hallow urchin]

waiting on an interview for them rip for internship but i didnt hear back after application

[real storm]

dm'd

[analog current]

yeah im also waiting for a response tbh

[vivid fiber]

bad

[lucid berry]

y

[vivid fiber]

Winter break is ending 😔

[analog current]

no fr

[eternal fossil]

why did lyft put the data engineer new grad roles back up again

confused rn

[real storm]

More important question is why databricks keep posting the same app for them to reject my 6th email

[eternal fossil]

lots of questions lingering at this point

i will never figure out wtf is going on

[marsh thorn]

yo anyone know of any internships to apply to that's eligible for first years?

I've only found like ~25 to apply to

[grave quest]

theres a citadel explore or something like that

i cant rememebr the name of it

[vivid fiber]

Tbh there's not that many

[marsh thorn]

oh wait I forgot to specify in Canada

[marsh thorn]

there's Microsoft Explore (which I found out too late)

oh wait no this is the Canada channel

[grave quest]

it is, but i thought you also wanted non canadian ones as a candian

since some places might sponser

a friend of mine who got msft explore got a visa to go to bellevue

[marsh thorn]

Micarosoft Explore is available to Canadian students

I don't believe I am a competitive enough candidate to even get a sponsorship for

[fickle juniper]

https://techcareerchange.notion.site/First-Second-Year-Student-Intern-Fellowships-93122a25f8d14e8c83f32bf8ed3fe61e

[marsh thorn]

thank you so much

[fickle juniper]

I think Amazon Propel is missing from there but otherwise pretty good

[marsh thorn]

I can't find one for CAN

RIP

[fickle juniper]

Oh I missed that u want them for Canada specifically

[fickle juniper]

Did u actually find 25? Is there a good list?

[marsh thorn]

https://github.com/Queen-s-COMPSA/Canadian-Tech-Internships-2023

but those are for all years

so those requiring me to be in my 3rd or 4th year are unavailable

[fickle juniper]

Ohh u mean uve applied to 25 total

[marsh thorn]

for me

yeah

[fickle juniper]

Icic

[marsh thorn]

wait

what did you think?

[fickle juniper]

I thought u meant 25 first year programs

Like 25x similar to MS Explore or something

[marsh thorn]

oh

most don't specify the year you need to be in

just to be in Uni

[placid dawn]

anyone regret not going to a better uni

[vivid fiber]

Nope 👍

[echo latch]

No

[vivid fiber]

Jan is legit me

I haven't left the house in 3 days 💀

[placid dawn]

ofc no u mfs already went to a good school

[vivid fiber]

I don't?

[placid dawn]

where do u go

[echo latch]

Sometimes I do wonder what would’ve happened if I did my SATs and went to the US tho

[placid dawn]

i shouldve went to ubc

[analog current]

does msft have a development office in toronto or is it just in vancouver

[echo latch]

They don’t have a dev office in Toronto

But if you complain enough when you get an RO they can give you Toronto

[analog current]

yep

my school is so bad

[oblique crater]

nah all unis are pretty much the same it’s what you make of the opportunities given to you

barring loo, MIT and other cracked schools

[analog current]

yeah i wish i tried rlly hard and went to loo tbh LOL

or just applied to UTSG

[lucid berry]

Micarosoft

[placid dawn]

which

[lunar sandal]

where r u rn

if ur at uoft and think ur campus is inferior, there's nothing stopping u from taking all ur courses at SG and reaping the benefits of SG population/location

[vivid fiber]

Queens

[vivid fiber]

Disagree

Waterlogged

[real storm]

naw schools are mad overrated

if u can hold a fork u can go to york but mans from york score google and apple internships && HRT

[lunar sandal]

HRT? probably olympiad kids

[real storm]

All the more reason schools are overrated

Up to the student and their own volition

[lunar sandal]

yeah but a good school with solid theory can turn a dedicated noob into a competent programmer

[real storm]

Could also wash out that noob

[lunar sandal]

as u said, up to the student

[real storm]

Like post at u of t

Yeee

[lunar sandal]

well now POSt is just at UTM and UTSC(?), UTSG doesn't even allow u to attempt a major if u didnt get into CS to begin with

[real storm]

Ah didnt know that, yeah tbh thats the way it should be

Idk the whole oh admitted with the chance of getting into cs seems like a cash grab to me

[lunar sandal]

it is, if ur international lol

its free 50k+ per intl student

[real storm]

https://tenor.com/view/its-free-real-sate-gif-7215175 u of t admissions

[placid dawn]

thats like 5000x better than mine tho

[vivid fiber]

Ok

[barren sinew]

Where do you go?

[placid dawn]

regina

[barren sinew]

Whats your GPA?

[placid dawn]

75/100

[analog current]

Carleton

[analog current]

im at carleton

[analog current]

wish i went to queens tbh, one of my close friends transferred there from my school

[placid dawn]

whats wrong with it

[analog current]

no one wants to be here bruh

it's like tragic

and it's hard to find people who want to be great

or even good

like people struggle a lot on some pretty hard, but not impossible classes idk

and like it's hard to find people to talk CS with

[placid dawn]

tbh im also glad i didnt go to a more expensive one

3/5 years were basically wasted doing online school

[vivid fiber]

Same problem as Queens

Tho it's a fun school so 🤷‍♂️

[analog current]

carleton isn't fun tho which really sucks

my gf goes to queens and it is just so much more fun there tbh

[wet sleet]

really my sis like it

[analog current]

don't get me wrong i really like the that I have met, and I'm having a good time, it's just not the best academia wise

[drifting shore]

How many ppl have started leetcoding?

[worldly ridge]

how does this work ?

take a shot if you cant solve it?

wait so the losr dont take a shot?

oo i c

i would take alot of shots

[drifting shore]

[fickle juniper]

is microsoft garage an underclassman program?

[slender pagoda]

ubc cs also sucks ngl

at least IMO

[analog current]

the goal is to get drunk

[analog current]

yeah its like 6k with the biggest

[worn moss]

?

carleton was one of the cheapest options lmao

i got the prestige scholarship there which carried but like the entrance on its own was 16k iirc

[analog current]

if u keep a 10/12 gpa (not hard)

[south rose]

Do we lose Ohip if we work in USA on TN visa ??

[analog current]

anyone that has done scotiabank codility, do you respond to the email? or do you just do the codility

[grave quest]

the email says no reply in it I think, but I did the codility two times when I got the first two emails

I've gotten auto emails to do the codility but if you did it, just ignore it

[drifting shore]

just do it, its auto and no one will see your email

[vivid fiber]

Pretty sure yeah

[vital slate]

Fr? But your still a Canadian citizen

[real storm]

Was this for fr NG?

[vivid fiber]

https://www.ontario.ca/page/ohip-coverage-while-outside-canada

[vital slate]

Wow just up to 2 years and that’s it.

[echo latch]

the company you're working for in the US should have health coverage anyways

[vivid fiber]

its so dumb that healthcare is tied to where you work in the states

[echo latch]

That’s bad but also the super long waits and procedures for Canadian healthcare isn’t great either

At least at good companies in the US you’ve got great healthcare so you don’t have to wait 5 months for a very important scan

[vivid fiber]

ye def, but as som1 who was poor i rather hav healthcare. even if it is shitty at times.

[echo latch]

Yeah that’s fair, just thinking of the swe income bracket is all

Bc if it’s anything that a clinic can’t handle you’re in for a long ride to get checked

[south rose]

I’m lost

will be in Ontario for at least 153 days a year in each of the two years immediately before you leave the country

What does this mean

This means you still have your coverage right

If you were in Canada for at least 2 years before moving

[barren sinew]

Is it really that long? Ive had family members have quick tests + treatment done

Nontrivial stuff too. Like neurology, cardiology, oncology

[oblique crater]

it’s even worse depending where you live

[soft hamlet]

Frying pan is a speaker at CUSEC 😎

[analog current]

love frying pan

@soft hamlet are u sooo excited for 2402 this semester

[soft hamlet]

I've alr gone through half the textbook 😭 hard but doable

[analog current]

i have not!

[soft hamlet]

Are you first or second year 🤔 I don't recognize ur discord tag

[analog current]

its okay i got an A+ in 2804 how hard can this be COPE

2nd year

[soft hamlet]

I'm first year

[analog current]

ye ur da first year rep

[soft hamlet]

💀 how

Yeeeee

😎

[analog current]

idk it was easy af

i cant code

i think

but i can do math

[soft hamlet]

Did ya do a co-op yet

[analog current]

NOPE

i wish

but i am just not blessed like that

[soft hamlet]

Are you doing it over the summer 🤔

[analog current]

hopefully

[soft hamlet]

I'm mass applying

[analog current]

same

i have like 100 apps out

me when i put the wrong year in my resume

so it looked like i was a freshman

LOL

i also have like 50 on the job board

[soft hamlet]

💀

[soft hamlet]

So far I got rejected by Microsoft at the application stage, Cisco after the final interview, offer from a startup

I have my resume in IBM and Dropbox databases but that's not much promise

I'm applying to more established companies

[soft hamlet]

I had 4 out 😭

I'm a first year

So '26 to '27 depending on if I stick to my uni's co-op program

what about you?

ah I am trying to do my 5 years in 4

Yeah I can overload as well next year

yeah I'd only be able to do 4x 4 months during summers

[lunar sandal]

what uni r u at

[analog current]

same as me

go ravens

[soft hamlet]

😎 Carleton

[lunar sandal]

wtf

carleton > uoft i guess

[analog current]

carleton > loo

[fickle lotus]

moose jaw

[soft hamlet]

wdym 💀

[main burrow]

uott?

@wheat loom

[barren sinew]

How was the interview for Cisco? I have an offer from there and I found the interview process pretty unique

[soft hamlet]

Congrats!

I did Systems not Meraki

But I found it very personalized (maybe a bit too much so? As soon as they saw I was a first year they became kind of disinterested 😔)

[barren sinew]

Same. This was for new frad though so I was wondering if all their interviews are as unique as mine

[soft hamlet]

Was about different constraints about browsers, centering divs

The interviewer told me how to better answer things 😂

he was telling me random history facts about different technologies

💀 weird interview

[barren sinew]

Oh lol. Yea that's not my interview at all

[soft hamlet]

He was kind of babying me 😭

[barren sinew]

Although I also had ann interviewer giving me tips

[soft hamlet]

nice people but until they take me seriously 😔 sad times

🤠 at least I got a startup offer

[barren sinew]

Your interviews are really good for a 1st year

[soft hamlet]

I got 2 interviews out of 4 applications

I think those are pretty good odds

😂

[barren sinew]

Yea that's really good

Do you know the pay discrepancy between systems and Meraki?

[soft hamlet]

No sorry

[lunar sandal]

wait

where are you applying to startups?

[soft hamlet]

I networked and helped a startup a little bit with testing out of good will

They were like cool

[lunar sandal]

right but where'd u find such startup

is my question

[soft hamlet]

Discord 💀

I lurk startup discord communities

:D

[barren sinew]

Sheesh

[soft hamlet]

It pays off to be terminally online I guess 🤠

[lunar sandal]

okay, are these canada based?

or US

[soft hamlet]

offer is from a remote startup

[barren sinew]

Low key not a bad idea. I received a referral from a director from a discord channel once

[soft hamlet]

mostly US-based founders but many are just full remote

[lunar sandal]

could u drop a couple links where u can find such remote startups

[soft hamlet]

https://discord.gg/AGC25TMh lots of startups are on this platform

It's like linkedin but more simplified

💀 he just dc'ed?

[lunar sandal]

thx

[soft hamlet]

This platform as well has some roles at a bunch of companies

if you do sign up, dm me I want the points for referrals

🤠

💀

LOL

At our uni ur technically allowed but a 16 month co-op is so long in first year

😭

[analog current]

naw there’s a few who are sick but that’s bound to happen, there’s like 700 admitted per year in comp sci

[echo latch]

talking cs

[soft hamlet]

Ye 700 + 200 transfers

[soft hamlet]

The upper years are cracked

[analog current]

some of them are crazy

[soft hamlet]

I aspire to be them, I only got a HS co-op, tester volunteer position and freelance

[analog current]

you’re ahead of a lot of us tbh i haven’t hada real coop just tech support at the city last summer

[placid dawn]

anyone doing a masters

[soft hamlet]

Nah but no known companies or anything

[vivid fiber]

That is crazy

[topaz linden]

Full time or intern

[barren sinew]

Full time

[soft hamlet]

Wdym 💀

First year gang

[vivid fiber]

U r crazy ahead lol

I got my first internship in 2nd yr

[barren sinew]

Those accomplishments for a 1st year are really good

I didnt know highschool internships were a thing when I was a student

[soft hamlet]

I want a good name on my resume 😔

[vivid fiber]

Ur in 1st yr chill lol

U got plenty of time

[soft hamlet]

I got an offer for a startup this summer

But 2nd year I'm going to try going for big names

[barren sinew]

Curious, why did you go to Carleton instead of say Waterloo?

[soft hamlet]

I didn't even apply to loo because I wouldn't get in at all

91% average isn't enough

[barren sinew]

Gotcha

[topaz linden]

Depends if you stay remote in Canada or go to the US, someone here got 210k for meraki new grad cali

[soft hamlet]

Need closer to the 95% and have extracurriculars which you have received awards and stuff

[topaz linden]

Idk about regular Cisco

[barren sinew]

You'll be fine regardless. A lot of people in this channel have FAANG+ without going to Waterloo, UoT, UBC

[barren sinew]

😦

[soft hamlet]

I'm gonna try next year 😭

[barren sinew]

The offer is for the US but nowhere close to that

[vivid fiber]

Regular Cisco is lower afaik

[barren sinew]

I think I might have screwed myself by saying my minimum salary to my hiring manager

[soft hamlet]

💀 probably

[vivid fiber]

U nvr speak first 😔

[soft hamlet]

I did the same mistake

[topaz linden]

Starting my internship at meraki tomorrow hopefully I get return offer so I find out for myself 😂

[topaz linden]

Yh they have a very wide range apparently

[soft hamlet]

GOOD LUCK

[soft hamlet]

Remote?

[vivid fiber]

Best of luck, and congrats on the internship!

[soft hamlet]

You should recommend me to the CEO fr

[topaz linden]

Thanks

[topaz linden]

Yh

No sponsorship cus I’m international

[barren sinew]

Lesson learned 😦

I at least negotiated with my recruiter once I recieved the offer but he very quickly said to take their revised offer or they'd call other candidates

[soft hamlet]

😔

[barren sinew]

Probably cuz I already played my hand

and I was laid off. He could sense the desperation LOL

[soft hamlet]

💀

Oh well you can always hop

After a couple years

[edgy rose]

Hey everyone, just joined this server, located in Toronto and a fresh grad as well. How is the process going for everyone so far?

[lunar sandal]

is this in canada?

wdym by no sponsorship, i thought u just need a SIN number + study/work permit for Summer jobs

[gloomy nymph]

This is correct

You just need a study permit for summer jobs

[topaz linden]

No sponsorship to go in person in the US is what I meant, so they made me remote

[worldly ridge]

Dam Soundhound :/

[shy phoenix]

:(

[nocturne flame]

man

i dont wanna be unemployed

[analog current]

😭

im planning to go into their eng next year because it makes me happy there, but i applied waterloo just to see what happens for se/cs

[slender pagoda]

Not trying to hurt anyone feelings

Cuz I’m here so

[analog current]

its ok im not in their cs LMFAO

[slender pagoda]

Lmao

[analog current]

ik people interested in cs who are in computer eng for the visa to get into the states

[slender pagoda]

Ubc cpen is pretty good tho I heard

[eternal fossil]

if youre truly passionate, youll learn from MIT opencourseware or just see uoft/waterloo course pages and follow along what they learn

[analog current]

yeah i have a lot of friends in it

[analog current]

engineering physics is honestly a meme

ill say it

it is sold like an mlm to dedicated students but it's so broad idk ab it

but anyways im applying waterloo bc i feel like my breadth of achievements fit what they're looking for in a student, the co-op, and that i get emails from recruiters ab it since im a minority

i just hope i can turn it into a scholarship, as ambitious as that sounds

[vivid fiber]

Lyft has jobs in Canada now?!?

Crazy

[barren sinew]

From my experience working in the states is pretty straight forward using a CS degree

Or maybe I just meet the people that made it through

[analog current]

idk anything ab the process but this is what he said:

i dont think hes a citizen so idk how thats gonna work

[barren sinew]

I know that engineers have it easier since "engineer" is a category in the TN list while CS students need to go through a Computer Analyst

But I don't think they make much of an issue

[barren sinew]

I don't think they'll be able to get a TN

[analog current]

i think he's taken a liken to ce, however yeah its a weird choice

i dont think its worth it to choose your entire major over

he got rejected from waterloo so his username is literally "waterloo reject" and thats how he displays himself around the ubc campus lol

[barren sinew]

I chose to do CE to hedge my bets just in case I liked HW more. I quickly learnt I didn't but decided to stick it out anyways.

Comp Arch is neat though

[analog current]

i just wanna build shit lol

[barren sinew]

Red flags imo

[barren sinew]

Physically or in SW?

[vivid fiber]

I don't c a problem

Mayb they wanna learn other things

[analog current]

physically but i think im gonna move to se just from the pressure

[analog current]

this is his handle

[vivid fiber]

Ya dats wack lol

[analog current]

walking around another school with the name "x" reject isnt a good look at all

[vivid fiber]

Well i c da valu for like embedded or lower level work

[barren sinew]

I remember in first year at SFU, first year union reps gave speeches to everyone before we voted for one of them. A few said they're UBC rejects like the rest of us so vote for them

Pretty lame imo.

[analog current]

yeah its odd

that guy got rejected with the 97% of other people who applied to waterloo cs

i think hes a nice guy genuinely without that trait but idk, its just weird to look at how he displays himself

waterloo reject personality trait

[barren sinew]

Yea. Probably from years of wanting to go to Waterloo

I remember seeing a post on /r/UBC of a high school student writing a love letter to UBC

People are invested in their dream schools

[eternal fossil]

yeah but did anyone get anything from them ?

[vivid fiber]

They just opened a role

#intern_postings_old

[eternal fossil]

they the data engineer role open in december

closed it and reopened in jan

[vivid fiber]

No swe role

Just opened

[lucid berry]

damn, people with a hard on for montreal will love this

[eternal fossil]

lyft is also pushing for remote jobs

but yeah i live 5 mins away from their office in toronto

bilingual mans eating rn

shouldve paid attention in french

[lucid berry]

damn, i should apply then

french comin in handy for once

[analog current]

i understand why hes hurt, but that kind of demeanor bothers me personally to make yourself and your class look poorer

in all honesty, i feel like he wrote poor essays ab busting to cali and was generic

[lucid berry]

Isn't UBC a really good university too? Lol

[analog current]

Yeah, top 3 interchangeably with uoft/waterloo for many dif majors

I think it’s weaker in cs, stronger in science than Waterloo

You know what? I’m genuinely surprised he’s not in this server

[lucid berry]

Ngl

Even if he was accepted at loo, I doubt he would be satisfied either

[analog current]

I feel like he’s romanticizing a little bit

He really thinks he’s gonna make 300k in cali just from his first offer

He even had it in his insta that he was rejected from Waterloo

[oblique crater]

this is the cringiest shit i’ve ever seen, clearly a symptom of a much deeper issue

[analog current]

tell ‘em groot

[soft hamlet]

😭 Waterloo simp

[analog current]

LOL

[oblique crater]

bros got no self esteem it’s sad af

not trynna roast but this is so fucked from an outside perspective

[analog current]

I honestly think he’s great outside of the Waterloo simping and that he’s very dedicated

Otherwise… ???

[soft hamlet]

Oh btw can y'all review my resume in #1062153528438706216 😎 would be much appreciated, I need to print my resume for an upcoming conference

Btw are y'all going to CUSEC?

We should do a cscareersdev meetup at CUSEC fr

[oblique crater]

probably never taken an L in his academic life doesn’t know how to react

[analog current]

bruised ego

[oblique crater]

wrf is CUSEC

[soft hamlet]

💀😭 bragging about getting rejected from Waterloo is wild to me

I didn't even apply

Bc I had no chance

[analog current]

@solemn rivet u gotta read up the chat a lil bit

[solemn rivet]

omg hi

[soft hamlet]

Montréal conference for CS and SWE

[analog current]

hi

[solemn rivet]

im dead inside rn

anyways hello fellow canadians

[oblique crater]

you into academia?

[soft hamlet]

no, I'm a first year 💀

undergrad

[oblique crater]

hello wecu where you from

[solemn rivet]

OMFG THAT SERVER 😭

[oblique crater]

what are you doing at the conference then lol

[soft hamlet]

RBC, Morgan Stanley, Deloitte among other companies are going to have booths there

[oblique crater]

oh nice nice

[soft hamlet]

network with recruiters and people from different companies

[analog current]

This the ubc server

[soft hamlet]

and other students

[solemn rivet]

oh i thuoght it was cali or bust server

bruh UBC is actually good tho

💀

[analog current]

yeah like wtf

[soft hamlet]

I'll apply to cali but I don't necessarily want to go there 😭

[oblique crater]

that’s a great idea, most of the time when I hear conference it’s usually just a bunch of pHDs presenting papers

UBC > loo, might be controversial but idc

[soft hamlet]

this one is aimed towards undergrads talking to company people

[solemn rivet]

ngl, america isn't all that good

[soft hamlet]

loo has more cali clout, which is what most people base their ratings off of

[solemn rivet]

ik fat TC is nice

but there are better things in life to stress about

[oblique crater]

like bro you can make good money here

[analog current]

I don’t get why he’s thinking 300k

[oblique crater]

i’m making great money working in canada, fully remote can just travel and be free

[analog current]

For first job offer when he has no internships

[analog current]

the LIFE

[solemn rivet]

damn

[oblique crater]

i just started today tbf lol, but i’ve already traveled a bunch the last 3 weeks life is good

[solemn rivet]

lol, id be rather happy with 200k (adjusted for inflation) for new grad tbh

[oblique crater]

that’s 95th percentile too

[solemn rivet]

true

[oblique crater]

it’s certainly doable if you’re grinding for 5 years straight

[solemn rivet]

it's doable if you grind for like 4 months tbh

[oblique crater]

nah lol it’s not all leetcode

[solemn rivet]

hm

tbh im from the states

[analog current]

i think i may be happier there tbh

[solemn rivet]

so im a bit luckier

[solemn rivet]

i think you should pick the college that you genuinely think youd be happier at

[analog current]

its just that if waterloo offers me money i will take it

[oblique crater]

passing the resume screen is the hardest part, you can’t make a faang resume in 4 months

[analog current]

the rare option

[solemn rivet]

im horribly sad at my current university

and wish for nothing to get out

fit is super importnat

[analog current]

i got money for ubc but emoed out lol

[oblique crater]

this helps a lot you’re right but don’t underestimate the resume screen

[solemn rivet]

i alr passed the resume screen

so i dont really mind right now

[oblique crater]

you good then

[solemn rivet]

tbh i just got lucky

i think there's only sm work can get you

before luck starts mattering more

[oblique crater]

100%

[eternal fossil]

unfortunately thats just how it is with these bloated banks

they want to "prove" to upper management that their hiring practices are good and they will get good hires

its nothing to do with simplicity

its just a show

[magic perch]

Aka most tech hiring tbh

[full gorge]

apart from indeed/linkedin what sites do you use to apply?

[fickle lotus]

With a nice, firm handshake

and strong eye contact

https://tenor.com/view/mark-market-gif-24019757

Or do this to get the CEOs attention, make yourself stand out

[lunar sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/because-im-not-coming-back-for-everything-im-not-coming-back-gif-15084002

and do this when they resume rejected u + no PPO offer

[vivid fiber]

Squarepoint

[lucid berry]

Squarepoint is quant?

[vivid fiber]

I tink so?

[hallow urchin]

did anybody get dropbox summer 2023 offers? i didnt even get an interview but just wondering about the ppl that did go through the process how much prior experience u had

[vivid fiber]

Dropbox has a high bar

I know someone who was prev @ shopify who got dropbox

[hallow urchin]

Ah fair enough

It's a good company but mostly remote I think and idk if that would make for a good internship experience

[vivid fiber]

Well I think it's worth just cause of the eng talent

They got some banger eng blog posts

[oblique crater]

you can have a decent internship remotely

[vivid fiber]

Also the pay is good

[fast warren]

How much does drw pay in Canada for swe intern

[lucid berry]

my friend is a sophomore with near 0 experience and got interview

[lucid berry]

50/h

[hallow urchin]

Wellfuck

Maybe he had a reference

[lucid berry]

No

Applied on the website

[analog current]

how 😭

[topaz linden]

Even with referral I couldn’t get interview lol and I have a solid resume

[vivid fiber]

Rng

[real storm]

Rents gonna get pricier too cause that cost gets passed on to renters

Canada actually got crazy problems rn

[dense blaze]

bro i think ur doing ur math wrong the 0.6 rate will increase by 5.5%

so like 0.65 or something

I think

[tight gale]

True

I have to go out for breadline and free church bread just to survive

How are other people surviving

[worldly ridge]

ohhhh, I hope that is the case, I thought it was on principle value. Ill dig furhter into this

if so, thats not bad

[worldly ridge]

Friend, always keep me in your heart while you are waiting at the line

[tight gale]

[worldly ridge]

ah you are right

"Staff say that the owner of an average priced home assessed at $695,268 will pay an additional $233 as a result. The property tax bill for an average priced home would total $3,569"

[dense blaze]

yee im pretty sure it should be like that i think

[worldly ridge]

okay bro I just went fully doomer mode

[dense blaze]

god bless we are safe

sort of

[worldly ridge]

if it was a 5.5 increase to principle

im gonna remove OP to avoid misinformaiton

[worldly ridge]

Check me and @dense blaze comments, its not 5.5% increase based on property principle, but 5.5% increasefor the rate

We are sort of safe for now

[worn moss]

any1 know how i can fix my bullet points like im trying to use google xyz format but like it looks weird on my resumec cause of the ending of each one

[vivid fiber]

#1019675142248468601

[analog current]

Utilized - languages/technologies - to…

do ^ for one

and for another one split the technologies into 2 sections. Something like “Did this and that using TS through REST api leveraging Spring”

and order them in a way that doesn’t look weird

[real storm]

ah perf

didnt get a good look

[grizzled meteor]

also @solemn rivet why are u here we are both not canadian

[graceful oyster]

do you guys read every channel

[uneven vigil]

have you guys tried or heard of FDM, Wiley Edge, etc...?

I know they have shitty hiring practices, the first article on them is the Toronto Star and the 30k quitting fees that cannot be enforced

in a bad time, anything gotta work, right?

[lunar sandal]

excuse me?

30 RACKS FOR QUITTING?

[frosty plank]

is that even legal?????

[uneven vigil]

cannot be enforced, so you are gucci

FDM are like a glorified Tinder with a small bootcamp

only thing, they charge client 130k a year apparently, and give us 45k a year

makes Uber Eats fee look like a charity lol

Anyone heard of working for Neo Financial, it's like SoFi in the USA

their junior developer role is out

[frosty plank]

any internship roles?

[drifting panther]

ur better off being unemployed than working for neo

[frosty plank]

@drifting panther how bad is it?

[uneven vigil]

holy shit, that's a statement lol

also, Neo is in Alberta

so my woke ass would get killed, who knows

[drifting panther]

aight i might be exaggerating, obviously they are better than nothing, but they pay like shit and overwork the hell out of you

[oblique crater]

lmao alberta is not that bad

but Neo is definitely not great

[uneven vigil]

better than unemployment or trying to prove myself using side projects

I did interviews, and all they cared about were my latest experiences at a job

[oblique crater]

yeah that's true better than just being depressed at home

although idk how they feel about remote you're gonna have to move to calgary

[uneven vigil]

I can drive my poor ass there, a nice 3600 kms drive

I don't have a mortgage or anything

I can take that as an adventure

[oblique crater]

calgary not half bad, the mountains alone make it worth checking out

[uneven vigil]

ok I just read Neo Financial Glassdoor, 70 hours work week...

hard pass

[worldly ridge]

whats their TC

didnt soemone here mentioned its 🥜 too

[uneven vigil]

I saw 45-50k CAD

[worldly ridge]

[uneven vigil]

but I hope it was just my eyes

fooling

[worldly ridge]

I rather work as a prisoner in a for profit prison in the U.S

[uneven vigil]

or going through a temp agency

that makes money off your back

[ancient tartan]

Anyone got followup or interview from RBC?

[uneven vigil]

they also ignored me

the only person I know who is full time rbc, is because he did an internship during summer 2022

[ancient tartan]

O I got an interview email last Friday

[uneven vigil]

so he was just continuing

[ancient tartan]

Maybe they just start processing applications

Are you bs or ms?

[uneven vigil]

bs

[uneven vigil]

i applied like in last November

[ancient tartan]

I applied in 12.16

I'm a master student, maybe the process pipeline for bs and ms is different?

[uneven vigil]

I applied for the full stack developer position

let me dm you for exact details

[ancient tartan]

I applied for all sde intern postitions, lol

[vivid fiber]

@ancient tartan thanks for your contributions to the repo 🙏

[ancient tartan]

My pleasure 🤣 Nice to meet you, bro. Your repo really helped a lot!

Btw, anyone have applied for sde intern of Huawei?

[grave quest]

DRW sending out OAs

[lucid berry]

if i contribute to the repo, can i put open source contributor on my resume?

[vivid fiber]

Prob not, but it would be nice if you could 😊

[lucid berry]

sure, if i find new internships

I sent your repo to a few of my friends so it would be reasonable that i add any internships that i find

[uneven vigil]

DRW Montreal and Squarepoint Capital are goats in MTL salary, but they are really hard to get in

[grave quest]

rip

i got the oa and hearing that makes me scared as hell

[uneven vigil]

if you are able to pass OA and interviews from Squarepoint, it's 140k new grad

[drifting panther]

anyone knows how much DRW pays interns?

[steel escarp]

40s i think

[lucid berry]

50s from what I am seeing on my uni's sheets

[fast warren]

did anyone that applied yesterday get oas?

[uneven vigil]

I applied Monday for IBM Montreal and got it yesterday Tuesday

[fast warren]

o lol mb i meant for DRW

[ancient tartan]

still not

[ancient tartan]

how much IBM Montreal pays ng

[ancient tartan]

trading always pays high for employees

[steel escarp]

i'd assume mid 90s since they should have the same rates across provinces

[uneven vigil]

cost of living is not the same across provinces though lol

[steel escarp]

i mean both of my ibm offers are similar

[uneven vigil]

idk, better than 65k I suppose, because CGI were giving out 65k new grad in 2022 before hiring freeze

[steel escarp]

1 in calgary and 1 in toronto

[uneven vigil]

IBM Montreal demands bilingualism, just like federal jobs

so it's a bit harder to get in

[errant field]

looks like amazon has rejected a few waitlisted Canadian interns

anyone from here?

[magic perch]

Damn ibm pays higher than I expected

[steel escarp]

they couldn't meet @timid tartan 's standard

so they're bad

🤡

[magic perch]

I mean prolly no free food

[steel escarp]

they do

when i interned at otawa office

free food once a week

heard my friend in toronto office got 3 times a week

[magic perch]

Do y’all feel like majority of CS 2023 grads in Canada will graduate unemployed

Or is the scarcity of jobs overblown

I’m def finding it pretty dry out there, there’s a couple of random positions in a few companies scattered around but basically nobody hiring at scale

[uneven vigil]

yes, especially those without return offer from their summer 2022 internship

I have no seen a new grad without return offer get a job yet

[tight gale]

Every company should have free food

[worldly ridge]

@tight gale Im sorry that you have to line up at breadlines

[tight gale]

thanks friend

[candid oxide]

is this for any dev or specific role

[hallow urchin]

do decent size companies actually ask for a demo of ur projects? or is it just resume->oa->phone interview -> offer

[oblique crater]

the latter

[uneven vigil]

it's the python developer one, it's a dev role, there is also a dev role for C++

and then you have the quant role, which is for the super mega mind people in mathematics

[fickle lotus]

Hey everyone, I applied late in this year's cycle. How was the visa sponsorship situation for big tech in the States at the beginning of the cycle (i.e. July/Aug)?

[uneven vigil]

My friend who is a senior 5 years as frontend wokring from Canada for the USA, told me that they stopped processing those who even needs TN visa

[fickle lotus]

That's unfortunate

Well just gonna keep prepping for next cycle anyways

[uneven vigil]

you can also take a slightly shittier job, experience in a related field is still experience

[fickle lotus]

for sure, just seeing what my options are

burnt out ATM, haven't touched LC at all and I have a Bloomberg interview in a week lol

[edgy rose]

damn at least you have an interview

[fickle lotus]

Yeah I'm not complaining, at least I'll get some practice

[hallow urchin]

epic
but i also dont wanna lie at all but i literally could and get away with it. wild

[edgy rose]

how much lc have you done so far? I am at 131 and burnt out too (from LC)

[fickle lotus]

1

Two Sum

I have issues at home (parent with mental health issues) which is main cause of burn out + schools/job search

[analog current]

chat gpt brother

[edgy rose]

Wait, you serious?

[edgy rose]

Yeah that is difficult, take some time for yourself i'd say

[fickle lotus]

Yeah I'm not joking, when I say burnt out I mean unable to do anything except binge YouTube + Reddit

[fickle lotus]

Thank you

I'm going to try starting a gym and meditation routine again to get me out of the rut

[edgy rose]

lifting always gets me out of a rut

[grave quest]

my brother i'd rather fail

im a dumbass but im not gonna go that low

[grave quest]

same here, i hope you feel better soon man

[analog current]

it is permissible to be unethical in this situation

[fickle lotus]

Thank you man, good luck to you as well

[oblique crater]

yeah i mean you can always its just not a practical option

[grave quest]

same, or any exercise

[grave quest]

we do some trolling but 99% prolly not, i can just study and roll with it

[edgy rose]

we all gonna make it one day tbh

[barren sinew]

@fickle lotus I'm a new-grad who's in the process for a TN right now. My lawyers don't seem to think there will be any problem. I also received a another TN late October

[fickle lotus]

Congrats! Thanks for letting me know

[hallow urchin]

what are some companies u have interviewed with that never asked for ur resume projects
is it practically all of them cuz same. maybe the recruiters try to browse around ur github and shi

[oblique crater]

i've been asked about them in interviews but not to demo

just what they're about and shi

[uneven vigil]

according to IBM, an OA is valid for a year lol

[uneven vigil]

i got asked in an interview before how something worked in a specific class project

couldn't remeber how I made it work

a paintbucket algorithm inside bounded non geometric 2D shapes

[real storm]

anyone do the cisco OA for New grad

sitting in my inbox and im not tryna get blindsided

[grave quest]

the banes of 3 am coding

you become god but with amenesia

[uneven vigil]

i tried ordering mcdonald at night with the drive thru without a car, they refused 😦

it was my moral support to finish a code

[worldly ridge]

its a leetcode question back when I did it

i bombed it, somehow still got an interview - so maybe u can use chatgpt and call it a day

[soft hamlet]

Is anyone at CUSEC?

[olive oak]

Hey y'all, masters student here in Canada. What are the chances for getting a summer internship ? Is it bleak?

[ancient tartan]

If you prepared early I think it’s still possible to get some interviews

[fast warren]

Anyone hear back from wealthsimple?

[drifting panther]

Not yet

[analog current]

anyone have concrete points on Cisco ng salary

the ones on levels vary wildly

[tight gale]

Same

So hard to do lc these days

[grave quest]

Does drw auto give oa?

I got 2 but they might be the same

[eternal fossil]

I’m looking for some advice

I think some people here know that I went back to my old co op workplace and interviewed there but they were looking for someone to move to Ottawa for in person 3 times a week which I was against because a move is the last thing I’m looking at right now. So they went ahead with someone else, anyway that was last month so now I did some c test for ford and a manager wants me for a strong junior role in their autonomous division which sounds exciting BUT he asked if there’s any way I can come to Ottawa…honestly idk what it is every job I’m looking at that likes me back wants me in Ottawa and I DONT want to be in Ottawa so I wanna know how I can respectfully leverage wfh or a Toronto office move

[oblique crater]

why not move to ottawa though, ask for both of those if it’s not possible get some experience and you’ll be back in toronto in a year or two

[eternal fossil]

😭

For a role like this I feel like I’d have to stay for a good 2-3 years before I can try and move elsewhere

Because learning curve with C is steep and the whole system and concepts with self driving would take long too

I just have a life here, I know it’s not much but like I have my parents + gf + and a plethora of friends that I get to see within 10 mins of a drive

[eternal fossil]

yeah it is

ugh ok ill see what i can muster up

[hallow urchin]

does anyone here give each other references for free
I'll give u a hug in real life in return
I need references for summer companies

[eternal fossil]

ya ill do em

send over story or whatever you want me to say

[hallow urchin]

What company lmao

like it would be someone in a winter coop rn

hooking me up for a summer coop

[eternal fossil]

wait i thought u meant give references for reference checks

[hallow urchin]

Ohh lmao

[eternal fossil]

sorry LMAO im also unemployed rn i cant give anything

[hallow urchin]

😭

I was like ur name is literally 0 offers wdym

[eternal fossil]

yeah big L for me

[worldly ridge]

I'm not sure abt the job market now, but early 2022 then I had quite a good ratio of company offering complete WFH located in Toronto when interviewing

[worldly ridge]

Moving to ottawa when you live in tornto

[mental monolith]

holy hell

@mental monolith

[oblique crater]

bro has multiple offers he just wants the perfect one

[oblique crater]

ottawa isn’t that far though, I think if you set your mind to it you can get proficient in under 2 years in that realm and job hop

[eternal fossil]

LMAO i dont have an offer or havent got one since early 2022

[hallow urchin]

u can do it
I took me like 300 apps for winter
hope it's easier for this summer

[eternal fossil]

yeah i told the manager if i can do a few months there and few months back home so ill see what he says

[mental monolith]

what happened to that one from early 2022

[eternal fossil]

it was for some team in bmo where i got into a back n forth with the team lead about whether or not python was compiled or interpreted

[oblique crater]

LOL

[eternal fossil]

dude kept saying it was compiled

[mental monolith]

hahaha

[eternal fossil]

and wouldnt budge

it was ridiculous

the product was outdated too, id have to learn .net or some shit and it was a contract for 4 months

i didnt think i could learn from someone who insisted python was compiled

[mental monolith]

kek

this's not an internship right

[eternal fossil]

no

full time

[mental monolith]

jesus christ

tbh if you still have that contract offer

that's another 4mo to find an actual job

enough to buy time

[eternal fossil]

also one of the women in the team asked me in broken english what command to run to view contents of a file in linux, i named two i said cat and tail

and shes like you could use nautilus filename

?????????

thats gui

[mental monolith]

😔

[grave quest]

same

[uneven vigil]

big banks somewhat don't filter out people properly seems like

[eternal fossil]

they really dont lmao

[uneven vigil]

but they think filtering out junior devs

is priority lol

[eternal fossil]

that same team now has a friend of mine that started shifting tools to gitlab

and senior devs dont know how to use git

so thats where things are

the teams that run bmo are the ones you wanna get into

but its hard

the rest of the teams are just paper weight

[uneven vigil]

WTF, nowaday we get asked what's version control in interviews

[uneven vigil]

core teams are always hard to get in, as you become too big to be fired

[eternal fossil]

lol i wish i was joking but yeah thats where its at rn

[uneven vigil]

and I got asked behavioural questions like a shotgun

interviews got harder yeah

[oblique crater]

how do you not know how to use git even after like one project

but also your git experience heavily relies on what codebase you’ve worked in

[uneven vigil]

you would be surprised how many people coast during team projects at school

[vivid fiber]

Check out: https://github.com/Queen-s-COMPSA/Canadian-Tech-Internships-2023

[uneven vigil]

they are internships, do you know that in Quebec, they get subsidized for hiring one

if they play the game well, it's about 4$/h

[vivid fiber]

Same in Ontario

My first internship was subsidized

[uneven vigil]

that's why there were very insistent that you do that internship report

so they can apply for subsidy

[uneven vigil]

add Genetec, it's a very popular Montreal based security company

[vivid fiber]

If you can, would you mind opening a PR?

[uneven vigil]

fk I need to download the repo and do it the manual way lol

it doesn't have a web GUI for simple text change

i am so lazy

ok i will still do it

just need to put my ssh key back and all the jazz

[lucid berry]

Genetec @raw rampart

Your fav company

[uneven vigil]

Genetec sell surveillance security, which every countries and companies want more and more

[lucid berry]

Yeah, I know what's Genetec

Mfs getting everyone from my school's co-op

[uneven vigil]

they are aggressive af that you do your internship report, for that sweet subsidy

[lucid berry]

[echo latch]

How get job

[worthy fjord]

seems dry af rn hopefully gets better around february

the most random startups be having like 1k applicants lol

[uneven vigil]

get an internship that is easy to get in, and try to secure a return full time offer

otherwise, idk

[echo latch]

ty sounds like solid advice

will follow if I can

[lucid berry]

Don't you have google?

[uneven vigil]

startups, as in WealthSimple lol

[echo latch]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-worried-anxious-scared-gif-17776670

good advice still

[lucid berry]

True

[steel escarp]

stop trihard so others get some chances

[worthy fjord]

nah like any random company with 10-50 employees be having 1k applicants

and theres prolly students that had their winter term co-op offers rescinded so they all come looking for summer

[uneven vigil]

most people are not on discord or reddit reporting their rescinded offers

survivorship bias

or what else we call it in statistics

[worthy fjord]

ye true

lets see hows it goes

[echo latch]

I’ve retired from the grind

Will come back to haunt the masses for new grad

[honest perch]

i saw some ppl applied for the ibm entry level developer job, did anyone got an update after the oa ?

[lunar sandal]

ZERO (0) OAs

ZERO CALLBACKS

https://tenor.com/view/fightclub-punch-work-reaction-mrw-gif-4970584

[drifting shore]

ZERO LC DONE

[tight gale]

Yea I feel like I should be doing lc though

[dark lintel]

so true

one company had less than 100 employees and last time I asked, there were 2000 people applying for their internhship lmao

[worthy fjord]

ye companies like this

its rough this year

[worldly ridge]

Unpaid too?

[worthy fjord]

aw hell nah I didnt even see that

ye fuck this year

[hallow urchin]

anyone applied to drw and got that codility

[drifting shore]

That’s illegal

[hallow urchin]

ig its a autosend thing

cuz i dont have experience with low level programming so i dont think ill get it even after the codility

[hallow urchin]

yeah

even tho ik im gonna cheat on all the questions

[uneven vigil]

I got the OA, did the OA, no response yet

[lucid berry]

Have faith in yourselves, people

[frozen brook]

failed my dropbox final. fucking painnn

time to go back on the job hunt :(

[oblique crater]

that's tough, what was it like? get back up stronger!

[frozen brook]

nda, can't say much but i did the one cursed thing on the technical where i misread the question.. so fml

really wanted to job too :/ and get the job search over with

[lunar sandal]

wait so

there's an nda about the application process?

MID app? so u havent even gotten the job and need to sign non disclosure

[frozen brook]

yea, had to sign a nda for the finals interview

after 90 days i can talk about it lol

[oblique crater]

damn that’s wild lol

[tight gale]

Looking for job is so brutal atm

[uneven vigil]

technically, all OAs have an explicit NDA before you enter the challenge lol

[frozen brook]

true, but they sent me a docusign link and a 3 page nda

[grave quest]

did anyone do the DRW codility already?

[lucid berry]

Isn't Dropbox like 3 hours on the final round?

Fucking brutal

[spice flame]

Cisco OA kept freezing on firefox whenever it auto saved, I hate these custom platforms

[frozen brook]

yea it is

[grave quest]

the drw oa was pretty hard

[storm stream]

sure

[grave quest]

what the heck

[worthy fjord]

rogers?1?

its tough out here

last time i check wealth simple it had 2k they removed the position too lol

[vivid fiber]

They said that they would take it down by now

[uneven vigil]

I heard Scotiabank Velocity in Toronto is good, but I don't like close enough to Toronto lol

they legit use a pre-OA to test you before

so it filters out low effort shotguns

[worthy fjord]

oh sw

[vivid fiber]

Unfortunate 😔

[uneven vigil]

Fortunately lol, I am closer to MTL

I have never tried it before, is it like dead easy FizzBuzz?

[grave quest]

^

i also didnt realize rogers was so competitive

[lucid berry]

Stupidest shit I've heard

[uneven vigil]

all big banks got competitive too

[grave quest]

brooo

[worldly ridge]

average #canada poster

[fickle lotus]

"Money doesn't buy happiness" - guy with 200k TC

[tight gale]

[steel escarp]

Thats what @timid tartan tells me everyday about his 200k tc

[timid tartan]

I don't even have a job

-_-

[uneven vigil]

he leased a gwagon to flex his coworkers that's why

[oak horizon]

has Wealthsimple sent out interview invites?

[cinder kraken]

does anyone know if Unity is doing layoffs?

[vivid fiber]

They already did iirc

[lucid berry]

Fr?

[vivid fiber]

Ye

A few months ago

[lucid berry]

https://www.protocol.com/amp/unity-layoffs-game-engine-2657586043

Never doubt Soulkks

[tight gale]

[analog current]

can u even do mass layoffs in canada?

you need a good reason to fire someone

[uneven vigil]

we are USA's little brother in everything so, I guess yeahè

anyone tried to apply for CGI before lol

[oblique crater]

going bankrupt is a good reason

[lucid berry]

Consulting firm

[uneven vigil]

they always manage to get contracts aka work firms lol

[lucid berry]

Not great work tho

[grave quest]

yea for intern but its all mainly java roles

[finite cloud]

anyone interning @ ciena ottawa?

[uneven vigil]

I know a friend who is working at Ciena Ottawa full time as embedded, pm if you want

[magic perch]

VPs and above def make 200k+ at banks tho

[candid oxide]

not even vp, pretty sure entry isn’t even that far off at cap markets

[fickle juniper]

you can make ~200k CAD as an entry level including bonuses. Base being 100k

source: someone Ik who is starting as an investment banker at a big bank in 2023

[barren sinew]

Do you know the compensation at RBC Capital Markets? It's hard to find online

And is it a stepping stone to trading shops?

[candid oxide]

u can find on WSO

[candid oxide]

ye i have a source too on this

[worn moss]

r any unicorns / big tech still hiring for this summer?

[fickle juniper]

Ur right

6yrs ago

We are talking about investment banking

They’re the same company…

Okay true

Kinda weird to differentiate tho, you wouldn’t find investment bankers other than at rbc cm

[candid oxide]

nah CAD at cap markets

im not following, its in person at the gold rbc office

[fickle juniper]

It wouldn’t be remote idt

We’re not talking about swe, we’re talking about ib

[candid oxide]

ye as long as your role is a subset of analyst i think the pay is fat

[fickle juniper]

I think we’re talking about completely different things

We’re talking about investment bankers

Not quant, traders, or swe

And actually the person I’m talking about doesn’t even work at rbc or rbc cm

But usually the pay is standard across the big banks for ib across companies

Well for one u can make 200k right out of undergrad

[candid oxide]

dont think its only ibs, as long as you're an analyst at cm its pretty fat

so analyst at IB*

[fickle juniper]

Analyst is the title for investment bankers, just like software engineers is the title for software engineers

[candid oxide]

ye but some analysts r literally doing swe stuff but just have analyst title

[eternal fossil]

can i get a referral to that ?

also did any get a interview from calian group ?

they keep posting some amazing positions and roles for entry level devs

remote too

[uneven vigil]

Calian has like 2000 applicants on LinkedIn lmao

because they made it remote

[eternal fossil]

yet i get autorejected

[eternal fossil]

yeah its insane

[uneven vigil]

I pm you

[echo latch]

Seattle do be kinda nice

Seattle > Canada for now

According to wagon man

[barren sinew]

Okay maybe I should rephrase my question. Does anyone know the SWE compensation at RBC Capital Markets and whether it's a good stepping stone to SWE/Quant work at trading shops?

[analog current]

i mean

comp is around 90k for new grads

is it a good stepping stone?

depends on the team

[vivid fiber]

TC is around 100~120k USD for NYC loc

[barren sinew]

Thanks

I had an initial interview with them but the recruiter messed up the time zones and I ended up ghosting their meeting and they ended up ghosting mine

Now they're unresponsive. Oh well

[eternal fossil]

hmm goddamn

[uneven vigil]

that's why I always confirm every single thing by email, and by phone nowaday

[eternal fossil]

also i dont understand how calian is rejecting me, they offer 60-80k for new grad roles

[barren sinew]

I confirmed the time zone with the recruiter 😭

[uneven vigil]

it's like on Tinder, too many choices so they will start using their biases to filter out, you got UWaterloo on top, then big gpa, big internships

[eternal fossil]

big oof

[uneven vigil]

legit, I had an interview where the woman hated me