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Nah the secret is to not give a fk about grades
No for real, the ROI on good grades is so bad, I don't know why people try so hard.
ye i think unless ppl grinding for hft here
most of ppl here don't really try for a good grade
For good grades to help your career, you need to be in the top 10%
they try for a good internship
nah unless ur in research
4.0 doesn't matter when u have 2 years of exp
That's what I mean. Anywhere that looks at grades will want you to be insanely smart.
If you're grinding for an 85%, then it's not worth it.
Bruh I turned down a fall offer from them
yall say this then have a gpa of 3.6+ smh
I shouldve asked for parttime
I think part time only for return
I hav a Gpa of 3/4.3
I got a top company internship
its doable
I literally donโt know what my gpa is
Yeah that always bothered me about people saying the school you go to doesn't matter. I mean sure you can get anywhere from anywhere, but it's easier from certain schools.
I simply donโt care
^ he got something very close to janestreet ๐
Like the only time I check my grades is if I feel like I mightโve failed
it is easier from different schools, but with enough effort you can trump that
Top company? Like Jane Street?
lol not even
Neo financial actually
nah like FAANG-ish
Oh damn
^
Neo >>>> FAANG
They only take 1intern, the most selective possible
nice, graduated?
Top tier Canadian Unicorn
tell me 1 fintech company get their boot in every mall in canada beside neo finance
Idk what u mean
he prob means are u a grad student
Oh no undergrad
Neoโs marketing is so good that I have to physically flee from their ads, aka ppl from their booths
they hire more non tech ppl than developer
in spite of the fact that its a fintech company
Lmao yeah they have creepy sales people at UBC.
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Damn thatโs how good their eng talent is
most of those are students btw
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*intern
Oof, that's sad
Their software is so good that you can run it on any laptop, which is why interns get to bring their own when they get hired
What's their tc
I can go on about how great this company is
LMFAO
if ur lucky
15k?
no
Isnt that good
U guys are missing the point
15/hr assuming u work 40 hrs a week
O wtf
When Neo goes public ur base wonโt matter
u dont really work 40 hrs a week
Is neo financial a meme I'm confused
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their found was ex skipthedishes i think
one of the 5 unicorns in calgary
What a full time tc
Holy crap it just dawned on me that some ppl might read this channel and think Neo is like the most ๐ company
they got like 50M funding in the angel investor round
That's what happened to me haha
50 if ur exceed the expectation ๐คฃ
Oops sorry LOL
Please donโt leave Amazon for Neo
i'm a neo fan ๐
Cuz u deserve a bonus, I almost just quit hubspot to switch
i quit ibm for neo
For new grad?
they start hiring again i think
Yea
They froze hiring and just recently re-opened
Tho u have industry Zon offer so Iโd just keep that tbh
Yea the only ones I'm waiting for is G and citadel
What's MSFT intern salary?
Just yolo
I tried again
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i will lol
but i wanna increase the chance by getting a referral and prob cold message recruiter
Yeah, referral don't work at MSFT
MS referrals donโt work, I had one before and it didnโt work
But that could also be cuz Iโm trash
They only ghost people with referrals 
now i have to prepare for stripe rng
No
not yet
Kk lol
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u got msft interview?
i'm in canada
curious if u have recruiter's info?
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i just need recruiter's info to cold email ๐คฃ
york business school is pretty good lol
whatchu talking about
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wtf
LOL
msft canada outsource?
Bro, this fucking hiring season is gonna suck the biggest balls out there. I'm hoping I can get a return intern offer from IBM for 32/hr (remote) or get a Cisco ottawa offer
in state they have recruiter for every different region
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damn ur an ibm simp
lol
Bro, I'm being realistic
What school?
its fine
my heart ached whenever i read my own pickup lines as well

holy
stalk linkedin
typical cs major
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in 2022
u can be the first one
๐
who knows
get a cali internship
and come w him
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the season hasn't really got hot yet
companies will give out interviews in october/nov
just make the stars align
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business development?
I didn't bother applying to non-SWE positions and was thinking if I should have
what is that
Hey I met a top QA guy at a small software company in Quebec. I told him I'm at IBM, but I was super fucking drunk when I talked to him, and I don't remember if I said some stupid shit. This was at a bar btw, and he gave me his card. Should I still hit him up? This is most likely going to be for a part time position
No
If you weren't getting shitfaced on a Sunday night in Montreal
Then you don't get his info. These are the rules. I don't make them, I just follow them
is the sign to move to the US
we are finaly on economics explained 
rules are made to be broken ๐
Yoooo another avid economics explained watcher!!!! Fawk yeah!!!
I learn by watching. If you record a video of you farting on your manager's face, and send it to me, then I'll break the rules too, and send you his contact info lol
u watched ppl getting js all the time why not just get js ๐
What's js?
Ahh i see... JavaScript
But in all honesty, I'm gonna just aim for a remote ft position (fuck going into an office), and call it a day lmao
ibm start forcing 3 office days work week btw
heard in my department employees have to come to the office 3 days a week starting sept
force deez
Yikers
refer me to clio ๐
ontario getting boreddd
and im boout to be unemployed
yes
For simplicity's sake, how much are you looking to spend?
you'll probably find a full furnished apartment with 2 bedrooms for that amount
probably around 4k
tornado moment
wtf
Lol it do be like that in Toronno though
Typically how long does it take to hear back from Microsoft after submitting application for SWE internship?
Holy fuck
Apps are out
?
applied to vmware today, 2 hours later reject 
They don't sponsor afaik
they not sponsor
its auto reject
ah ok that makes sense ๐
they're just mad we get free healthcare
arent we slowly privatizing our healthcare + not funding our healthcare system the past years 
rip

are u at amazon?
no I work for @arctic smelt
Does he fart in your face
no he says good morning to me very often though which i admire ๐
any Canada lovers
I love Canada
Poutine, Maple Syrup, Butter Tarts, and Milk bags
anyone know if msft makes u do an OA
hes so cute
Donโt forget ๐ฅ wages
fr
tax is not cheaper tho ๐
Ya but other than that I like Canada more
Canada is nice (other than wages)
There is more variety down here
In the US?
Variety of what?
yeah man, I visited a small trader joes and hory fuck there's a SHIT ton of stuff
brands, products
Generally you can find the same products here
I'm cheap
I thought you meant people haha
Canada is waaaay more diverse
in terms of people
Wait what's hory fuck?
"Holy fuck"
Lol
can't wait to move to the US so I can buy more diverse brands of processed food
and tax cuts
18 days since I still didn't get an OA from ๐
Can't wait to get a remote job, live in Montreal for some time, get married + have kids, and move to a rural community where I raise my kids
Y r u always talkin bout Montreal now? I swear a few months ago you wer talkin bout how u wantd 2 leav Canada lol.
cuz i'm getting paid to do this lmao
Montreal shill 
ngl, i will say that eventually, i'm gonna get over Montreal, and I'll wanna live that rural lifestyle
that's when I'll be making a move to the US boys, and working remotely somewhere in the Midwest
Lol I'm playin
But I can hook you up with the drunk QA lead I met at a bar
If you want his contact info, I can send it to you, you'll probably get taken on part time
I don't wanna do QA tho
Do u wanna do angular?
I wanna live that intergalactic lifestyle
work remotely from my spaceship while exploring the milky way and beyond ๐
hey thats unfair

I got you my boy
What part of MTRL?
Whenever I visit try to go just north of St Laurent, around UQAM
Damn
You got me there

Hey guys, can Canadians apply for US Microsoft roles and be placed in Canada ?
Or theyโre strict with the locations on the job posting
Yeah I know, Iโm asking for my friend who is applying for PM roles
does everyone got application transferred when u apply for msft new grad canada?
Yes
they are asking for transcripts for ng
Esp not Angular ๐คข
Bro js in general is a hard fucking language lmao
Pick your poison, React or angular (vue isn't that big yet, but it's rising)
I like React
I just don't like Angular
Also wdym Vue isn't big, it's as popular as Angular
Front end dev is cool
I prefer fullstack and backend tho
i wanna try backend
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i had 1 years with cloud
4 months with fe
now i wanna try be
It's just building out apis 90% of the time
ye i wanna try be cuz im not good at css
Lmaoo same reason I don't wanna do frontend
Wich one?
lots of them
Backend is so much fun
U actually get to apply lots of interesting systems stuff in addition to writing clean code
i got to write a lot of code at ibm
its kinda fun
but i wanna try something new
so i'm spamming to apply full stack position
Come to HubSpot ๐
Shit, really?
If ur a wlb simp that is
Hubspot.. that'd be sick
Do they have a higher intern--> ft conversion rate?
And have the posted summer 2023 positions?
They typically do from what I can tell, but 2023 is a bit sketch
Not yet, should come out soon
Yeaaaj
I mean, we should establish the fact that we're already in a recession
I'm hoping the feds just bump up interest rates massively in September, so that inflation can start dropping down, and we can start pulling out of this recession
I'm even scared I won't get return and I know for a fact I got goated reviews from my tl
they dont even notice me
I'm estimating that this recession is gonna last 16 months. So, we'll start seeing growth around December 2023 or January 2024 (these are all my predictions btw)
I think you'll be fine. You'll get something in the end
The good news is that, after this recession tech is probably going to boom like we've never seen before
Tbh I might do the rest of my internships at hubspot
And go for return offer as senior
That's a safe bet
I'm considering doing the same for IBM
fck ibm
Like get my new grad offer as a senior 1 maybe
If my manager can get me a return internship offer for 2023
for not giving soc offer
Lol did they cancel all SOC positions?
Bro, my team hired a bunch of new people, so I'm praying they can still keep me on
We're one of the really profitable teams as well
ibm software doesn't have any hiring post on the career page anymore
most of the posts are ibm consulting
Fuck.
Well, it's over
Lmao
ur manager said yes right?
then i think u got the soc offer
my manager started the process from the beginning of june
like 1 month after i started
and it still didn't pass the hr stuff
Bro doesn't senior take 4-5 years to reach. Isn't sde 2 more realistic
Senior 1 at hub is equivalent to sde 2 at most other places
Senior 2 is true senior
just become a engineering manager in 2 years and hire me
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Some ppl get to senior 1 after 1 yr at hubspot, and interns work on the backlog the same way a junior would
Same, no bs intern project
not an internship project like other places
Have you spoken to your manager about it?
I've even reviewed my TL's PRs
Not about returning as senior 1, ill wait till I get a return lawl
iirc u got google interview right? ๐
Yes my last interview got postponed to aug 18 ๐
wait wut?
Idgaf about Google anymore tbh
i thought it was a b2b interview
Yeah he asked for confirmation of enrollment. Did you make it that far?
nah
I got asked to do a third
i got approval from my manager's manager
then he went to hr
and they were like nah no budget
Ya
I really like my team so its hard to leave it tbh
I don't really feel like working on some random gcp team either
how about
google brain
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That's fair
Fuck, yo then I might still be able to land the SOC position
Idek what that is lawl
its like google branch focusing specially in ml/ai research
they have office in motreal and edmonton
I have no interest in ml tbh
They made Tensorflow
i dont like too much math lol
I know my strengths and math ain't one of them
Are you in ubc discord
Or maybe just same pfp
I've definitely said that before
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Most ppl hav...
Can u remove so as not to dox ๐
Pretty sure thats me
too badd i already screenshot
Sure
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Tyty

Hey friends
I submitted oa2 yesterday
Still not received vo invitation fr amazon
Do I still have a glimmer of hope
Yea we are voting on your application right now
Yes
It can take a few weeks for next stage
^ from an amazon employee
What does it mean my application is "under review"
offer ๐คฃ
It means what it says
No interview yet
Chill
After every oa/interview I drink like 9 shots and delete all emails
That way I forget about them and dont stress
And then I'm pleasantly surprised once I get an offer
Or confused at a rejection
I also want 150k
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Lmfao
What alcoholic drink?
Do u need an intervention ๐ณ
I've got a fat bottle of smirnoff in my freezer
I could use some help in getting rid of that
Lol I got fucking tanked in the ibm cruise
Downed some jack daniels before
Had a couple of beers on the old boat
And had God knows how many glasses of red wine
You went on an IBM cruise?
IBM paid for a cruise?
That's pretty sick
Yooo that's fire
*ibm markham
ibm ottawa doesn't get shit
my manager bought me lunch in my first week
thats about it
Still nice
Altho def not as cool...
has new grad opened yet for canada
Dude, it would've been insane if we had some edibles. But, that would go against company policy
And I am not one to do that lmao
My buddy at Coinbase (works remotely from Ontario) got a one week trip to Miami. But, he's a ft employee
for which company
just in general ๐ญ I dont see a 2023 new grad process?
i havent started leetcoding so i think im fucked
there is #2023_grad_process
oh wtf i am retarded
any of u guys get OAs/phones and stuff for any canadian companies
Boys, at the end of the day, if nothing works out
Just apply to the big banks
In a recession, with all the loan defaults and high interest rates, they'll still be pretty profitable
Worst case, you'll make about 80k - 90k at RBC as a new grad. Continue leetcoding, and when the economy rebounds, you'll get faang/unicorn (hopefully lol)
I get interviews from rbc lmao
Rbc worst case cuz we have ibm and shit on our resumes
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Is that the bonus or TC
Fake I heard Neo can go up to 700k, probably just a typo
could be ๐คฃ
Lol imagine if neo just implodes
was wondering that too, didnt get one either
Nope
anyone here interview with national bank of kanada?
equivalent to mindgeek pay? 
not worth it bc u dont get ph premium though...
damn u got like 10 interviews already
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Best bank of kanada
Everyone will think you work at the central bank of canada
lol i havent even applied to a single posting yet
@ruby fossil used to be a rockstar intern there
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now he ends up at hrt
yeah i am studying hormone replacement therapy now

my boy
here you are doing god's work
once again
i'll write you a fat cheque when i get a return offer from ibm or cisco
boyos, i have restarted my leetcode journey. I'm starting off with recursion and trees
btw
heres the post
thank u thank u thank u thank u thank u thank u thank u thank u
idk man kinda demotivated rn kek
i'll send my app and see how it goes
Sorry for being a stalker ๐
You guys better giveme a gud referral if u get msft ๐คฃ
any1 get confirmation email for amazon final yet?
@steel escarp from 150k to 50k? 
I will take anything in the recession 
Personally i wouldnt do it
fuck no
you'll have a whole rent cheque to eat out and go places with dope views other than your apartment
Meh the view is not worth it
The view is fine but idt its worth it
Like how much diff?
2k vs 4k?
Or 1k vs 2k lol
7 split 3
In toronto ia not bad tho
Ye
Ye then ut makes sense
I thought 7k for 1
Lool
I mean that's not terrible
Can I live with you
fk the views ull be straing at ur computer most of the time anyway
@weak gazelle where are you interning ๐
Jane Street
anyone interview with Perpetua.io?
@cursive blaze can i dm about telus graduate program? ๐
Yeee go for it !
any idea on how much rbc amplify offers interns?
wtf
if u reallocate they will give u $1 extra per hour
lol imagine giving a fucking codesignal for 27.75/hr
^ex-almost-amplify intern
bro blackberry and opentext offered me 25.10 and 25 without any coding questions at all lmfao
isn't that like... 1 question
lmao so get the first one right, and get half the test cases for the second one?
ye capital market pays really well tho
@weak gazelle can give u the exact number ๐
@steel escarp citadel rejected
idk the process of other but i know amplify

code signal -> 2 interviews
I didnt update my resume
me too
ez fix
Amazon isnt on there
stupid af
didn't even apply to citadel
Yea its w/e
the only Citadel that I know of is, Operation Citadel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Citadel
Operation Citadel (German: Unternehmen Zitadelle) was a German offensive operation in July 1943 against Soviet forces in the Kursk salient during the Second World War on the Eastern Front that initiated the Battle of Kursk. The deliberate defensive operation that the Soviets implemented to repel the German offensive is referred to as the Kursk S...
I think perfect oa doesn't guarantee citadel interview
bro i don't think alot of them have even begun lmao
oh wait
this is for 2022, i thought you said 2023
ye i mean 2023 hasn't got too many postings yet
most of the positions i applied are for industry hire for sde1
fair enough
?
Oh
RBC?
RBC is dumb
That's all I can say lol
^
this mfker has 849.5 codesignal, solved 2 coding questions in 5 mins, nailed system design round and got rejected cuz of behaviour ๐คฃ
amplify is too gud
It's not even possible to get a floating-point score in codesignal
....
canada partying
Who's hiring rn
zon and msft
sovereign prime 
hire me 
LMFAO
deadass?
like just that
wtf disc looks different
what did u send
it only works if u have +2 yrs of exp
did u directly ask her for an internship
if not then u had it coming ๐
rip
did u apply online
u should have then messaged her with ur application id right
ic
yea I meant when u do
zame
u should apply to crypto coding intern

Your recruiter is recruiter for canada msft? ๐
Cuz in msft each recruiter will be in charge of a different region
hmm
what is us of a ๐
oh lol
ye idt it works
cuz there's a recruiter who will be in charge of all canadian university and seattle
and she set a private mode on linkedin that only people know her email can connect
Is it problematic that I can't solve Maximum Depth Of Binary Tree?
id give u 5 years of prison for that
Nah, just brush up on bfs
Ig im toooo smart
okay guys, do companies usually ask leetcode hard questions for graphs and trees?
like... what's the most they'll do for this type of shit?
Rarely
I think u just need to study typical hard like median of sorted array or traping rain
Thats enough
You should be solving questions by:
- Space/time complexity
- How prestigious the approach is
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how long have you been leetcoding
only started leetcoding for about 3 weeks in january
took a 7 - 8 month long break
and i just started again today lmao
Isnt traping rain u just need to keep track of left max and right max? ๐
Oh maybe there are like 2 rain questions
Oh yea mb I was thinking of a diff question
When will u become the interviewer? ๐
Havent lc in a while
I heard u can do it as an sde1
Yea not sure havent really thought about it
Do it and sneak me in ๐
I'll prob give alien dictionary
2sum 
How can u do alien dict in 30 mins loool
I swear explaining it will take like 20 mins already
Its 2x60 now I think
@dark portal can i dm about toronto
i applied to telus but it says apps closed fuck
Lool
Telus doesn't pay anything tho
go ahead bro
I was askex Alien Dictionary in my Amazon onsite. I was so lost in understanding what it wanted
Id blame john ๐คฃ
I go the same school as him. It be your own sometimes 
telus pays 90k - 100k
that's decent money if you can work remotely... obviously if you gotta work in vancouver, then it's over for you lmao
but, i think they're very lenient with remote work
man 90-100k in vancouver is above average you can live like that comfortably
depends if your gonna buy a condo or not in vanc 
about 95k, yeah
Hmmm thats good
nah lol
i havent even applied yet
0 apps for 2023 internships rn lmao
the good news is that i can now implement bfs on a bst

Ever heard of American students interning at google mtl office or is it only for Canadians?
i'm trying to re-learn graphs and heaps rn my boy
lmfao
i'm sure you can, if you want to
Mehhhh thats too hard
Is it something that happens though?
bro, how am i supposed to know that?
it probably does. why wouldn't it?
yeah likely possible, canadian students can go intern at american offices
is there a canadian version of: https://github.com/coderQuad/New-Grad-Positions-2023
Jobs section of newspaper
can't believe kanada still has no tech industry
i swear if we stopped propping up real estate, then we might just have another 2- 3 shopify type companies
but muh home appreciation is apparently more important
ye
Do you guys bold the technologies or performance improvements (as a percent or number) on your resumes?
As a matter of fact, do you guys bold anything at all? Lol
I bold metrics
did anyone here get accepted for hack the north
Yeah if you don't have a car, you can live pretty comfortably.
I got waitlisted and everyone I know got rejected except 1
guess this is why they pay ur travel costs

yeah
how did cs hardos get rejected bruh
hardos?
the tryhards
like ppl with faang internships and like crazy stuff
damn
uk anyone else that got in?
I had apple internship (kind of) and got rejected
2 people
how stacked were they
pretty stacked but not the most stacked
the people who were stacked stacked got rejected
dunno didnt see their app
but I am assuming they were looking for more all rounded people
we are all in high school so maybe they were more selective for hsers
ughhhh I wanted to go
great place to network too
got u
yeah makes sense
bro youre WHAT
Lmfao
hs???
@sand pagoda u guys r next level
incoming grade 11
bro I have been around here longer than fracker
no u dont
they send u a waiver lol
u need to sign
oh cuz i swear i saw it today when i was filling the rsvp
i only found out about internships like 9 months ago ๐ญ
going into 3rd year uni rn
bro working at apple in grade 11 bro i was playing minecraft then
its kind of
apple partnered with diff compsny
lmao
u havent even started applying to unis thats crazy
nerd
but dw im a nerd too, just math instead of cs
yes, i dont know how i got in but im happy with it
they want uni students for hack the north
and now that itโs in-person again there is a show component to it
Did anyone get amazon oa for new grad today ?
A hft i think
newgrad or intern?
did u get telus too? ๐
saleforce (slack) is out ๐
Anyone have tips for Amazon SDE OA2? Should I explicitly refer to the leadership principles by name in my answers?
bro how are you finding these
on linkedin lol
Did you get the OA link as well
qq when did you apply?
oo i see
congrats and good luck!!
yeah i applied way late, so did a few other friends
so we are just trying to piece together whats happening lol
seems like they are about 2-3 weeks behind
so maybe in like another week or 2
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ng
i assume if u didnt get sentry OA today
its reject
since they closed positions?
but did u get an email
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i havent even got a email
so i assume gohst = reject
i applied toronto
i assumed that they would not sponsor
for US
I got 100% on the coding part but failed the sliders, so I guess really review the LP's and try to answer according to them. Honestly does anyone have tips for the slider Q's? They're so weird.
I've seen someone mention there was like hierarchy customer trust > long term gains > deliver on time
Or something like that
Yea it's supposed to do that
Prioritize deliver on time or long-term quality, or take ownership of the product and expand on features ?
Usually long term quality but if it breaks customer trust you deliver iirc
Yea I yolod the sliders
ikr
yee just create another account and reapply again ๐
fk amazon
i can't take it
rejected after the meme oa2
my pride hurts
watchu talking about
zon is da best
zon ismy childhood dream company ๐คก
Yeah it actually sucks so much more than getting a coding question wrong
Because you know it was for some bullshit pseudo psychology stuff
Iโll work 14 hour days for 8000 a month lol
i wanna see zon oa2 answer key
For real
bruh fr, don't take any rejection personally, but most especially an amazon rejection
gruhhhh zon is personal
their system is rng and they're slowing hiring too, there are good candidates that will get rejected no matter what
zon will never slow down the hiring process loool
but they can increase their pip rate
and give others less chances
thats why so little info about oa2
I took oa2 last Wednesday
My app status has been "under review"
But still no vo invitation
Should I give up
Thansk
???????
Palantir is the only one out of those
Which is why I said near 0, not exactly 0
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....
Js hrt final
Stop spreading false news
Wtf
^ liar
I too want 50k TC
U cant
U dont meet the bar
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