canada

[timid tartan]

So technically I can relocate to much cheaper areas

[dark portal]

[timid tartan]

And still earn that money

Yeah

[dark portal]

Dude an apartment in the entertainment district in mtrl is like... 1.5k

Holy fuck that's insane

[timid tartan]

That’s cheaper than toronto lol

[dark portal]

Yo any tips on getting an interview at circle? Lmfao

[timid tartan]

Dude you don’t wanna come here 😂😂😂😂

[dark portal]

Bro, I'm dreading having to head back to Toronto tomorrow

I fucking hate Toronto, I swear

[azure vortex]

what is circle

[timid tartan]

See

[azure vortex]

is this some satire of square or something

[timid tartan]

Nobody even knows it LOL

[timid tartan]

LMFAO

[dark portal]

Some crypto company

[azure vortex]

im gonna found triangle

[timid tartan]

Hexagon incoming

[dark portal]

Does anyone else zone out when others are talking during daily standups?

[timid tartan]

Or trapezoid

[timid tartan]

Nah

[dark portal]

Nice.

Well, I'm gonna go get drunk now, and practice leetcode at 2 am when I get back

See ya guys

[timid tartan]

But wait

If you guys said 160-170k is really good

What about CB or Stripe lol

[ornate sigil]

sorry, didn't see, Meta

[steel escarp]

I mean u have to divide it to hourly

150k with 6 hr work day is still more than 200k with 12 hr work day

[timid tartan]

Ye but it’s not like you are gonna use the rest of the 6 hrs to get money right

Otherwise, yea you are right

[steel escarp]

Who knows

[timid tartan]

👀

[steel escarp]

Is red light street legal in canada? 🤣

U can work pt there

[timid tartan]

What is that

[steel escarp]

Street with red lights

[ornate sigil]

red light district*

[steel escarp]

Idk lol

[ornate sigil]

the thing in amsterdam?

[steel escarp]

Something like that

[tight gale]

What is stripe TC in canada

[ornate sigil]

i heard from someone 260 but no idea how accurate that is

[tight gale]

I'm wary of stripe because some of the TC is monopoly money

[ornate sigil]

afaik stripe & wish are the highest

[steel escarp]

I think base is 150 + 50 sign on

[ornate sigil]

in canada

[tight gale]

Wish

[ornate sigil]

wish is sussy

[tight gale]

I thought wish was a scam initially

[ornate sigil]

idk why or how they pay so much

[steel escarp]

I never heard of anyone used wish for anything b4

Lol

[ornate sigil]

the only reason i even know it exists is because some UW students did coops there lol

[tight gale]

It's hard living life <300k TC

[ornate sigil]

whats ur tc

[tight gale]

Less than 300k tc

[ornate sigil]

i mean

290 isn't terrible

[tight gale]

Less than 290

[ornate sigil]

we binary searching

150

[tight gale]

Its higher, decent for ng but cant wait for promo

[ornate sigil]

225

[tight gale]

Lmao

[steel escarp]

190

[tight gale]

Lower

Lower 187k

[tawny zephyr]

mine is 42069k

[ornate sigil]

what COL

or 187k in canada

[tight gale]

Vancouver

[ornate sigil]

187 as ng in canada is good

[steel escarp]

187k in calgary is goated lool

[ornate sigil]

wtf

[tawny zephyr]

living in canada sucks gov takes half your money

[ornate sigil]

ima go broke in cali

[tight gale]

Yea it's good but not balling out money

[ornate sigil]

well

[timid tartan]

Tbh 200k TC in Toronto is not even enough

[ornate sigil]

ya

[timid tartan]

Bcs of the taxes

[tawny zephyr]

facts

[ornate sigil]

ain't many new grads full on balling out

cuz if u make citadel or hft money

[timid tartan]

LMAO

[tawny zephyr]

@tight gale if you don’t mind me asking what percentage of your tc do you save or invest

[ornate sigil]

u balling out at the washroom in the office

[tawny zephyr]

facts 💀

[timid tartan]

Factsssss 😂

[steel escarp]

Arent u interning in js an making 600k a year 👀

[tawny zephyr]

thats you

[tight gale]

Like 80%

[timid tartan]

Stop spreading false news

[timid tartan]

Ikr

[tawny zephyr]

[ornate sigil]

js did mans dirty

[timid tartan]

@steel escarp has interned at every HFT possible

[steel escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-gif-20175214

[ornate sigil]

gave me a ugly ass problem

[timid tartan]

JS HRT Two Sigma Citadel etc

Too gud

@steel escarp

[tight gale]

Citadel would be nice

[ornate sigil]

ya citadel is W

[timid tartan]

Ask @steel escarp for a referral

[tawny zephyr]

bro i accidentally cold emailed recruiter at de shaw once

[steel escarp]

I did

[tawny zephyr]

😭

[ornate sigil]

only da hours are murked

[steel escarp]

My title was steven's janitor

[ornate sigil]

literal sweatshop

[timid tartan]

How long is the hours lol

[ornate sigil]

if u not sweating u get fired

[timid tartan]

Like 70 hrs / week?

[tawny zephyr]

steven’s assistant 😉👏👏

[ornate sigil]

i heard 9 to 9

or later

[tight gale]

996?

[timid tartan]

Not too bad depending on the TC

Lol

[ornate sigil]

thats expected

we aint counting overtime

lmfao

[timid tartan]

I’d be willing to endure that under certain TC range lmao

[steel escarp]

Big corps usually pay u yearly salary

[tight gale]

Well

[ornate sigil]

im just a big tech simp

solid hours decent $

[steel escarp]

And expecting u in the contract to work 40 hrs a week

Loool

[timid tartan]

9 to 9 but 6 days per week max right
That’s just 72 hrs I’d say it’s pretty good for the salary you get loool

[steel escarp]

But reality is tough

[tight gale]

Good wlb at like 100k has to work 4x-5x years to make citadel tc so it's worth even if bad wlb

[timid tartan]

Exactly

It’s worth it for a certain TC range

[tawny zephyr]

i am not doing it unless i get 800k 💀

[timid tartan]

Lmao bruh no way

How much is citadel TC anyway

Like 400k?

[tight gale]

400k-500k

[ornate sigil]

anyone grinding DMOJ

[timid tartan]

I’d def do it

[tawny zephyr]

me

[steel escarp]

With the inflation rate like this then the tc will be 800k when ur time comes 🤣

[timid tartan]

😂😂😂😂😂

[tawny zephyr]

LMAO FACTS

[tight gale]

Same just did the OA hoping I pass the screen

[timid tartan]

Uh huh TC 800k but a standard hourse will cost 10M

💀💀💀💀

[tawny zephyr]

how about spending money on women instead

[timid tartan]

I got rejected after OA

Lmao

[tawny zephyr]

steven you cant be single for life

[timid tartan]

Probably bcs of GPA cutoff

[timid tartan]

Mehhh that can come later

🤷🏻‍♂️

[tight gale]

GPA cutoff

[tawny zephyr]

rip

[timid tartan]

Yea I’ve heard it’s like 3.5 or 3.6?

[steel escarp]

^ this mfker cold email the recruiter at 5am in the morning and asked why she didnt reply

[timid tartan]

Mine is not even 3.5 at the moment lol

[timid tartan]

😦

[tight gale]

I regret not trying in school now haha

Maybe google to citadel pivot in the future is more realistic

[steel escarp]

Tbh

U dont really need gpa

[timid tartan]

Are you at Google rn?

[timid tartan]

Cap

[steel escarp]

Just work 2 years and apply again

[tight gale]

Stuck in team match rn gotta wait

[steel escarp]

Pretty sure they wont consider gpa after 2 years of exp

[timid tartan]

Are u sure Citadel won’t ask gpa after 1-2 yrs?

[timid tartan]

You never know

Like

Citadel even asks for ur SAT scores man

[steel escarp]

🤷‍♂️

[timid tartan]

Like the fck lmfao

[tight gale]

I assume the longer you work the less your GPA will matter

[timid tartan]

I wouldn’t be surprised if they ask gpa after 2 YOE

[steel escarp]

John will let us know after 2 years 🤣

[timid tartan]

Normally yes

But with citadel who knows

[timid tartan]

What about you

👀

[steel escarp]

Who cares about citadel

Just take the L and get js

[timid tartan]

Oh ye nvm your assignment is to get Stripe @steel escarp

Gogogo

[tight gale]

Js screen harder

[steel escarp]

Isnt it ur gf assignment?

[timid tartan]

🙂

[steel escarp]

Oh wait

Ex gf

[timid tartan]

-_-

[steel escarp]

🤡

[timid tartan]

Shut up

Damn this guy is a bully

Smh

[lucid berry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/777738532886020126/965010320533905478/cachedGif.gif

[steel escarp]

Steven bad boi

Steven changed gf like amazon pip their employees

[timid tartan]

….

The fck

🤦‍♂️

[tight gale]

Is ur name steven

[timid tartan]

Yeee

Why

[steel escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-steven-hi-hello-wave-hello-gif-23569830

[timid tartan]

Stoppppppp

[steel escarp]

Wut

I just said hi

[tight gale]

Is high tc even worth

Would buying a nice house or car make you happy

[timid tartan]

Think so

[steel escarp]

Well it depends

[timid tartan]

I mean

Again

200k is not enough

[steel escarp]

Diminishing return

[timid tartan]

Lol

[timid tartan]

No

Idt so at least

But the high TC is not really for that either

At least for me

[steel escarp]

Well more money will make ur life more comfortable

[timid tartan]

I’m not even planning to buy a car, ever

[tight gale]

Yea I dont have a car

[steel escarp]

Right cuz u dont even know how to drive

🤣

[timid tartan]

Well not only that

But car’s value does not go up as time goes on

It goes down

So what’s the use

[steel escarp]

Right

Buy the 2nd one

500

[timid tartan]

500k?

[steel escarp]

👀

$500

[timid tartan]

….

[steel escarp]

Its hard to talk w rich kids

[timid tartan]

You can’t get a car with 500 dollars

[steel escarp]

Wanna bet?

[timid tartan]

Unless you mean like a toy car

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[steel escarp]

Nono like a crappy car

U can def drive

[timid tartan]

Ye but you’ll have to bring it to a mechanic that would cost thousands of dollars

[steel escarp]

But need a lot of fix

[timid tartan]

Ye

[tight gale]

How can a car be cheaper than a ps5

[timid tartan]

LMAOOO

[steel escarp]

Didnt u study operating system? 👀

It means u can fix a car

[timid tartan]

I still don’t believe there exists a car at 500 dollars 😂😂😂😂

That sounds crazy lol

[timid tartan]

…

[timid tartan]

Ok then go fix a car

[tight gale]

Just work remote

[timid tartan]

Ikr

Or just take TTC or smth like that

Ez

[steel escarp]

Well i want to learn how to drive

But not to get a car anytime soon

[timid tartan]

For what

👀

[steel escarp]

Exp

The more driving exp u have

The cheaper the insurance for thr car is

[timid tartan]

Interviewers are not gonna ask about that

🤣

[timid tartan]

See

It’s cheaper when you don’t have a car

Literally 0

Easy math

[tight gale]

My future gf will drive for me

[timid tartan]

Or just take a bus

[steel escarp]

https://leetcode.com/problems/car-fleet/description/

[azure vortex]

for what

[timid tartan]

🤦‍♂️

[timid tartan]

Just in general

[steel escarp]

https://leetcode.com/problems/race-car/description/

👀

[timid tartan]

Ok you can stop 😂

[azure vortex]

wdym in general

what kind of lifestyle do you want that 200k is not enough

that's vastly more than the avg canadian/american income

[steel escarp]

Oh steven is a play boi

[azure vortex]

are you trying to splurge endlessly

[steel escarp]

Hes drunk in the bar every night

[timid tartan]

I mean, it depends on how much you want to put on investments right

Like

[steel escarp]

Even 500k a year is not enough

[timid tartan]

200k after tax is like what

120k ish?

That’s whack

[steel escarp]

120k cash*

[timid tartan]

Dude I don’t even go out smh

[steel escarp]

U can throw ur salary in rrsp or first time buyer stuff

Those are not taxable

[azure vortex]

even then, 120k after tax is so much more than the avg person no?

[timid tartan]

👀👀👀

[timid tartan]

Not sure lmao toronto is just way too expensive

[tight gale]

Why does it matter what the average person makes though

[azure vortex]

but most people are not making 200k pre tax salary

it doesnt

but like

[steel escarp]

I think 100k plus new grad is becoming more comon now

[azure vortex]

in terms of affording things

[tight gale]

Averege person cant buy a house

[azure vortex]

dont live in shitty toronto

😎

[steel escarp]

Fax

[timid tartan]

I’ve read somewhere the median salary in toronto is more than 200k

[steel escarp]

Quant or poor

[timid tartan]

Maybe I was wrong tho lol

[azure vortex]

wtf

that is fake news

...

[tight gale]

People comparing to avg never makes sense, compare faang salary to other faang salaries

[steel escarp]

Median for swe maybe

[azure vortex]

maybe household income

but household income comes with household costs 🙏

[steel escarp]

I dont see how other majors can reach to 200k ng

[azure vortex]

kids 💀

[timid tartan]

Ez just ask them to work at faang too

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[azure vortex]

[timid tartan]

Teach them binary search when they are born

[steel escarp]

Like for all of ur concerns

[timid tartan]

Ez jane street

[steel escarp]

Just marry a rich wife

Solved

[timid tartan]

LMAO

[azure vortex]

idk, i would be rly rly happy with 200k new grad tc

or 150k

or 100k tbh

[tight gale]

Can I have 400k

[steel escarp]

Well it depends

[timid tartan]

Same

[azure vortex]

which compa y pays 400k new grad tc other than quant

[timid tartan]

@steel escarp ‘s company

Ask him how to get in

[steel escarp]

Cuz uoft and waterloo intl dont pay 60k tuition a year to get a 100k job

[timid tartan]

[azure vortex]

im not international

😎

maybe 100k isnt enough, idk

[steel escarp]

Well thats why u can compromise with 100k

[azure vortex]

i guess if ur in shitty toronto

its kinda L?

[timid tartan]

Toronto is just shitty overall

😭

Not sure what’s not shitty in toronto

[azure vortex]

thats what i mean

[steel escarp]

Im paying 20k in my shitty school and i feel bad for ppl paying 60k

[azure vortex]

shitty is a descriptor for all of toronto

[timid tartan]

I wanna get out of toronto

[steel escarp]

Come to calgary

[azure vortex]

something im confused about

[steel escarp]

I can refer u to oil and gas

[timid tartan]

Nah

[steel escarp]

🤣

[azure vortex]

u guys know the companies that provide corporate housing for interns

[timid tartan]

You’ll be following me everyday

[azure vortex]

do they do that for full timers?

[tight gale]

No

[azure vortex]

why do they have corporate housing just for interns

[steel escarp]

They do tho

For a short period of time

[timid tartan]

Wait really

Bruh

Sadge

[tight gale]

Theres relocation assistance

[steel escarp]

Like couple of first weeks before u find a room

[tight gale]

But they expect you to get your own place

[steel escarp]

I think meta does that

[azure vortex]

this means ur salary can be lower than ur intern salary

[timid tartan]

Uhhhhh no lol

[steel escarp]

Shout out to meraki

🤣

[timid tartan]

LMFAO

[tight gale]

Yea 200k gotta share 1 bedroom with 6 other people

[timid tartan]

Literally 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Meraki is kinda weird lol

[azure vortex]

whats the deal with meraki

explain this to me

[steel escarp]

Isnt it comon in vancouver?

10 ppl in 1 basement?

🤣

[azure vortex]

i dont wanna have roommates after graduating

i feel like that would be so annoying

as in non-partner/family roommates

[steel escarp]

They pay intern prob more than ft

[tight gale]

Yea actually it's insane

[timid tartan]

What?

Bruh

[timid tartan]

??????

That sounds like a nightmare wtf

[steel escarp]

ikr

just as bad as using 849.5 codesignal to flex on ppl

😭

[timid tartan]

That's literally ur codesignal score

[plush rune]

man i open this server after so long and i see ppl rlly saying that 200k isn't enough and that 120k is whack after tax. this is as a 22 year old new grad lmfao. reminds me why i don't frequent this server in the first place. going back to never opening this server again

cs majors do be living in a bubble fr

[vapid oracle]

No joke the last house I lived in had 12 people, 4 in the basement. Vancouver housing is a nightmare

[steel escarp]

Sorry to hear that lol

[lucid berry]

Lmao fr

[vapid oracle]

I used to think 25/hr was awesome lol

However, I think it’s a good thing if people have unreasonably high standards for their pay because it keeps compensation higher than if everyone just accepted regular salaries.
I think the open culture in cs about salary sharing really helps people not get low-balled

[tight gale]

Bruh you know were joking/trolling

Hows the salt mine

[azure vortex]

i dont think he is joking

[worldly ridge]

next we unionize for even more higher salaries🤓

[grizzled meteor]

come to california

way better

[dark portal]

It's 4am and I just bought a homeless guy some McDonald's

Felt bad. Super drunk rn too

[placid dawn]

wya

[dark portal]

In my hotel room rn

Yo ngl, when you realize the kind of person and individual is, when they are somewhat drunk, but not super drunk

[placid dawn]

shoulda taken him to ur room

[dark portal]

I bought McDonalds for that dude after I was somewhat drunk, and I got absolutely hammered later on

[placid dawn]

u in montreal

[dark portal]

No I'm in Saskatchewan at yo mama's house, knockin in her boots

[placid dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-fish-sucking-eel-sucking-sucking-hotgrltae-gif-23577558

[tawny zephyr]

JOE MAMA

lol. I am funny.

[tawny zephyr]

live feed of ur mom

[worldly ridge]

working on civic holiday

living the 996 life

https://tenor.com/view/wazowski-mike-mike-sulivan-meme-monster-inc-gif-19634164

someone hug me 😦

[tawny zephyr]

whats the holiday

[worldly ridge]

civic

[tawny zephyr]

honda civic 🚙

[steel escarp]

wya rn

[worldly ridge]

non faang

[steel escarp]

us based company?

i'd be surprised that if ur in a canadian company and have no civic day off

[worldly ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/wazowski-mike-mike-sulivan-meme-monster-inc-gif-19634164

canadian

we have us offiecs too though but still

-.-

[steel escarp]

Lol at least u got x1.5 or x2 something for working during holiday right?

[dark portal]

IBM supposed to be off tomorrow too, but I think that's only for ft employees

Interns might just have to work lmfao

[worldly ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/wazowski-mike-mike-sulivan-meme-monster-inc-gif-19634164

no

[steel escarp]

Loool

[tawny zephyr]

sue them

its holiday pay

i know because they made me learn about this

[worldly ridge]

nah its not an actual legal holiday

but some companies do it

[worldly ridge]

ahahha where

[misty inlet]

Did anyone get the Amazon new grad OA today ?

[dark lintel]

Yeah I got it

Is it harder this year than last year

Last year I got two easies

[misty inlet]

Damn
I applied on July 4th
Still yet to get the OA
Should I message any recruiters ?

[dark lintel]

Idk

I applied last week it was pretty fast

[steel escarp]

didu apply with referral?

[placid dawn]

yea imo

[dark lintel]

I applied with full timer’s referral

[dark lintel]

Darn no two easies for me🥹

Tbh I can’t even do med now, i haven’t leetcode for half a year

[gloomy nymph]

@tawny zephyr yo huge L moving to Canada

the states rocks

[worldly ridge]

boston pizza better than boston pizza here?

[gloomy nymph]

yes

110%

[placid dawn]

wheres my amazon oa2

[steel escarp]

damn haven't got it yet 👀

[timid tartan]

Has anyone not yet received amazon OA for summer 2023? -_-

I'm getting tired of waiting everyday smh

[steel escarp]

i haven't 🤣

[timid tartan]

Except u

[steel escarp]

wdym

is this discrimination 👀

[timid tartan]

Idk

I'm pissed off

I emailed the recruitment team

[steel escarp]

just get janestreet and call it a day

[timid tartan]

They basically just told me to check the portal and wait

Smh

[steel escarp]

oh they always said that

[timid tartan]

What else can I do then

[steel escarp]

u can always get janestreet

nothing stop u 😛

[timid tartan]

-_-

U do it and then refer me

Ez

[steel escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-gif-20175214

[steel escarp]

i dont even know if i can get bell 🤣

[placid dawn]

just email elon bezos

[timid tartan]

I couldn't even get CIBC

Never got a callback

Imagine how bad my resume is loool

[steel escarp]

ikr never got response from a bank as well

[placid dawn]

i got a response from cibc

when my credit score was too low

[vivid fiber]

One of my pet peeves is ppl who r cracked sayin they're resume is bad smh

[fluid surge]

fk

i just did amazon OA and got 2 dp

i brute forced them both and got 11/15 on both

rip

im def not moving on 😦

only practicing dp from now on

😒

[tight gale]

Same didnt get bmo

And rbc

[untold nebula]

Is there another OA for Amazon once you complete the first one?

[fluid surge]

yeah

there's a workplace simulation

for testing your leadership skills

[untold nebula]

I mean after that

[fluid surge]

nope

[fickle juniper]

Damn they don't deserve ya

Also u might still move on from what I've heard

[tight gale]

Hows the holiday canadians

[steel escarp]

just like other days

👀

[tight gale]

Bad?

[timid tartan]

What is even a holiday lmao

[placid dawn]

with 11/15 yes u will

[timid tartan]

Nah I think he meant it’s just like a regular day

[tight gale]

Yea so bad

[timid tartan]

My day is just bad every day

[steel escarp]

depressing 😮

i will be depressed till the day i get the first new grad offer

[timid tartan]

Bruh no trust me

You know how ppl said IMC OA was auto?

I haven’t got one

Lmao

[steel escarp]

ye i trust u

😛

[timid tartan]

Like how can you not get smth that almost everybody else got

[steel escarp]

uhhh by not applying?

[timid tartan]

-_-

[timid tartan]

Just take the RBC offer that you rejected last year

🤡

[vivid fiber]

Rng bro

[timid tartan]

I thought it was auto

[vivid fiber]

It's semi auto maybe

Who knows

[timid tartan]

Damn my luck this year

Maybe I've used all of my luck last year

[vivid fiber]

Chil, I'm sur ur gona get a bunch of interviews

[placid dawn]

are u a LC god

cause if not then dont bother

[timid tartan]

Damn

Like LC hard and stuff?

[placid dawn]

i just did it

it was like 2 graphs

[timid tartan]

Yeah?

Well graphs are normally fine for me lol

But idk, depends on the specific questions

[placid dawn]

[steel escarp]

steven is graph god

he the dp all graph questions and always forgot the break condition

😛

[timid tartan]

???

Wut

What are you talking about

[steel escarp]

about life

[timid tartan]

Ye life is sad

[steel escarp]

i'm sadder

[timid tartan]

Says someone who got amazon OA

🤡

[steel escarp]

who?

I just applied last week

👀

[timid tartan]

U

[steel escarp]

U who

[timid tartan]

You mean reapplied

🤡

[steel escarp]

*applied

[timid tartan]

Nah

That's cap

[tight gale]

Can I practice dp with you

[steel escarp]

^

[timid tartan]

@steel escarp

[steel escarp]

gogo

u 2 mock

[timid tartan]

Go do it with @steel escarp

He is the God

[tight gale]

We need another person

[steel escarp]

🧋 🍿

[tight gale]

Need 3 to dp

[steel escarp]

wdym

i dont do dp linkedlist or tree

👀

didn't i tell u that

😛

[timid tartan]

@steel escarp is an equivalent of two persons

[timid tartan]

Ye but you memorized them

🤣

[tight gale]

O I dont mean lc

[timid tartan]

Same thing

[steel escarp]

👀

what do u mean then

[timid tartan]

You are a DP god

[tight gale]

Tag team battle

[timid tartan]

🐐

[timid tartan]

Bruh

Wtf LOL

[steel escarp]

what is dp tag team battle 👀

[tight gale]

You are too young and pure

[timid tartan]

Cuz he can do it alone

He's a grandmaster on codeforces

Don't play around with him

[steel escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/veven-steven-dancing-dance-moves-gif-17377809

[timid tartan]

Stopppp with the gif lmao

[steel escarp]

Hey its not me who made it

[steel escarp]

Grr im 24

Whatchu mean by young

[fluid surge]

woah, i still got OA2 despite doing brute force for both dp questions xD

[untold nebula]

Did you get it rn?

[fluid surge]

yeah just got it like 1 hour after OA 1

[untold nebula]

Wait what

[steel escarp]

I think if u pass 50%of the test case in oa1 then u will get oa2

[fluid surge]

gonna brush up on dp like crazy now

[untold nebula]

Oa2 is different from workplace simulation right

[fluid surge]

its workplace simulation

Part 2 of the Online Assessment includes SDE Work Simulation and Workstyles Assessment. The SDE Work Simulation is an interactive simulation designed to give you a window into a typical day in the life of an SDE at Amazon. During the simulation, you will be prompted with emails, videos, and instant messages from your virtual managers and team members to solve various problems. For each scenario, you will be provided with four to five viable options of how to respond and be asked to either rate the effectiveness of each response or select the single response that you think is the best course of action

[untold nebula]

Ooooh I thought workplace simulation was this

The next section will assess how your workstyle preferences align to Amazon’s Leadership Principles (15 mins),

My bad, I get it now

[dark portal]

Is anyone in Kingston rn?

I got in a car accident

So now I'm training back to TO

Yeah... fuck

I tried braking on the 401

And dude my fucking breaks didn't press all the way down

So didn't break in time

And ended up rear ending the guy

[summer matrix]

Friends

I got an email earlier telling me I was getting the amazon oa

[placid dawn]

just got my oa2 rn

[summer matrix]

But I still haven't got it after 6 hours

Is it normal

[dark portal]

I haven't even applied rn lmao

[placid dawn]

how do u even prepare

sounds like rng

[fluid surge]

woohoo !

go over leadership principles and try to answer the MCQ based on them

will be hard if the leadership principles conflict with each other :p

[plush rune]

deadass

ppl need validation from others bro

[placid dawn]

they hire as many as quit

[cinder kraken]

ng or intern?

[fluid surge]

ng but i think both intern and ng have the same OAd

[cinder kraken]

I don’t think so. Can anyone confirm?

[latent zenith]

There is no OA2 for interns this year. It’s integrated into OA1. For NG it’s a separate 2hr long assessment

[cinder kraken]

Yep that’s what I heard as well.

[placid dawn]

just did OA2 it wasn't too bad

but some questions were tricky

[fluid surge]

damn you're fast! haha

i hope you get the 30x1

😉

1x30**

[placid dawn]

[fluid surge]

what was your oa1 score

[steel escarp]

Msft is out

Uwu

https://careers.microsoft.com/us/en/job/1368447/Software-Engineering-Fulltime-Opportunities-for-University-Graduates-Canada?jobsource=linkedin&utm_source=linkedin&utm_medium=linkedin&utm_campaign=linkedin-feed

[dark portal]

You got this big dawg

[vivid fiber]

They're a cat

[tawny zephyr]

co-op

[tawny zephyr]

factual

[tawny zephyr]

LOL

[dark portal]

https://www.businessinsider.com/tech-industry-layoffs-tesla-coinbase-facebook-2022-7 💀

[spring wren]

anyone do final amazon yet?

[delicate cedar]

anyone got link for Canada amazon

[tight gale]

https://www.amazon.ca/

[delicate cedar]

you know what i meant mfer

[vivid fiber]

Use googl

[delicate cedar]

Thanks

[dark portal]

anyone here not apply to amazon yet? lmao

[steel escarp]

curious what does it take to pass unity resume screen

got rejected 4 times

🤣

[fickle juniper]

Referral

I never passed until I got a referral

My recruiter didn't even know about the other roles I'd applied for other than via referral

[steel escarp]

my god

LOL

i dont know anyone in unity

[oblique crater]

are you guys applying to calgary office or mtl?

[steel escarp]

i applied to calgary vancouver toronto

rejected by all

[topaz linden]

What’s their ft new grad?

[steel escarp]

relatively the same as regular cisco

[vivid fiber]

I passed resume screen when I only had a noname startup

It's rng I guess

[steel escarp]

Damn everything is rng now

[lucid berry]

Always has been

[fickle juniper]

It’s always rng unfortunately

[cinder kraken]

Job applications are like a game of Fortnite

Everyone’s a clown, but the clown who survives last wins 😂

[steel escarp]

anyone knows msft canada recruiter info?

👀

like linkedin and email

[eternal fossil]

does that work

[steel escarp]

Idk

Why not try

[delicate cedar]

i always get resume rejected by msft

[steel escarp]

I think cold msg recruiters increasing ur chance tho

[eternal fossil]

i have a referral at msft but this year when i had my referral actually refer me they ignored some emails regarding my application which automatically disqualified me so we'll see if i get it with my resume this time

[steel escarp]

Wdym by auto disqualify loool

Msft took ages to reject me

[eternal fossil]

theres apparently some email the referer gets

they have to fill in some info on behalf of you

my referer basically had my email buried in his junk

and boom it got ignored and then got rejected months down the line but i knew it was a reject because his POC said they filled the roles

[steel escarp]

LOL

sounds horrible

[summer matrix]

Hey I didn't show my ID in the photo

Amazon oa

What should I do

You sure?

Lmao thanks bro

I got all cases passed

But I submitted the second one 5 times

Should I give up alr

[tight gale]

Applying to MS again

[steel escarp]

U got rejected by msft b4?

Lol

[tight gale]

Didnt get the OA

[steel escarp]

Sadge

[dark portal]

does anyone here have an idea on how much morgan stanley (montreal office) pays its interns?

[steel escarp]

30?

[dark portal]

good enough for me to consider lol

[steel escarp]

They have google in montreal 🤷‍♂️

[dark portal]

i like to be realisitc with my expectations lmao

[steel escarp]

Just expect js and fail to google 🤣

[dark portal]

and in 2024, i wouldn't be surprised if morgan stanley starts offering 90k - 95k... which is good enough for me tbh lmao

[dark portal]

maybe lol

[steel escarp]

U have 5 internships lol

Id expect u get at least amazon

[lucid berry]

Morgan Stanley pays 🥜

In Montreal

[steel escarp]

30 is prettt good tho lol

[lucid berry]

Like 70k new grad lmfao

[steel escarp]

Depends on col then

Idk whats montreal col is like

[lucid berry]

Not 70k worthy

[lucid berry]

I don’t think it’s 30

[steel escarp]

Really?

Sharework by morgan stanley in calgary pays around that

[lucid berry]

I think it’s under 30 in Montreal

Idk why that shaq guy is so obsessed with Montreal tbh lol

[steel escarp]

Sadge

He found his love in montreal lol

Not so long when the winter come 🤣

[lucid berry]

He

Alright, just found out intern pay for Morgan Stanley, it’s between 25 and 28

If you aim to intern in montreal, aim for DRW, they give free housing for interns from what I heard

[placid dawn]

his bich is there she stole his heart

this damn slav girls

[lucid berry]

💀

[tight gale]

That's a pretty good bonus

What's the TC though

[lucid berry]

Bonus?

[dark portal]

bro i met a nice chick there

[tight gale]

brb moving to Montreal

[dark portal]

they have that yum yum

[dark portal]

any idea on how hard their interviews are?

[eternal fossil]

man

i applied to some backend role in a startup called perpetua

shouldve known not to be desperate

its a take home mini project

goodbye my friend back to the lobby

[placid dawn]

leme guess its unpaid too

[vivid fiber]

Nah iirc perpetua is a bigger startup

Pretty sure they pay

[tawny zephyr]

they do

I went to a tech conference ("recruitment event") for perpetua

seemed like a sick company

they poached a shit ton of engineers from FAANG companies lol

mostly amazon

[tawny zephyr]

do it

I got resume rejected cuz hser

[eternal fossil]

Interesting

Ok I’ll do it

[steel escarp]

Why do you want to work for Perpetua?

quick quick

[tawny zephyr]

they seem cool

the work culture

good wlb from what i heard from employees

[steel escarp]

letme copy paste

[tawny zephyr]

copy paste dn

[placid dawn]

rejected from amz boys

[steel escarp]

after oa2?

[placid dawn]

yea

perfect oa1

[steel escarp]

lol

i got that too

perfect oa 1

rejected after oa2

[placid dawn]

for this seasons sde?

we definitely bombed oa2 tbh

sucks we dont know what exactly

[steel escarp]

ye

too bad im not amazonian enough 😭

[azure vortex]

what is DRW

[azure vortex]

is oa2 the behavioural one?

they sent me both at the same time

like the leadership thing right

[steel escarp]

ye

u finished oa1 first

then they send oa2

the bahaviour 1

iirc they combined 2 into 1 fr internship

[azure vortex]

oh

you guys are talking about new grad

[steel escarp]

ye

[topaz linden]

Is Microsoft new grad / intern pay good in Canada?

[fickle juniper]

Depends what u mean by good

Definitely lower than the Zon

[topaz linden]

Compared to faang in Canada

[fickle juniper]

Then low

Quite a bit lower than Amazon/Apple/Meta

[topaz linden]

Fair

Check levels.fyi, should be like 9k a month or something

[vivid fiber]

With stipend it's like 10.2k a month or smth

Cad

[lucid berry]

Some don’t take stipend because of remote, right?

[vivid fiber]

No remote also gets it iirc

[lucid berry]

My friends didn’t get stipend because they were remote

[vivid fiber]

Oh lol that sucks

I think without its 8.4k?

Not too sure tho

[lucid berry]

ye

[vapid oracle]

Don't worry, me too

[fickle juniper]

Grad date?

They only accept like Oct 2023 onwards for internships

[vapid oracle]

Shit. I said may 2023.

I thought you were supposed to say the earliest grad date possible.

Tbh, they said in the amail that it was based on my oa1 results. I got 100% on the coding portion but likely failed the slider q's

Normally I like behavioural questions, but I really did not like those ones.

[steel escarp]

oh u prob failed oa2

[vapid oracle]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking

[fickle juniper]

Wait what the

I also said May 2023 and I got rejected without OA

Damn maybe I just suck rip

[vapid oracle]

My resume is pretty sexy now lol, I'll send it to you

[steel escarp]

👀

we're talking aboout ng

did u apply for ng?

[eager kindle]

does any1 hve experience getting j1 visa while not being in coop program?

[fickle juniper]

Oh oops thought internship

[vapid oracle]

Oh yeah I was rejected for internship

[steel escarp]

🤣

did u really apply for internship?

[fickle juniper]

Yeah

Cuz I wanted winter lol

But the jd specifically says Oct 2023 grad

And my dumbass put may

[steel escarp]

meh

I think u just grad

work a year and get sde2 industry hire

👀

[fickle juniper]

Yeah I wouldn’t extend my degree and defs not for Zon

[steel escarp]

😵

[vapid oracle]

I'm set to grad in May 2023. Is it worth it to delay graduation to get a FAANG internship? Or am I better off graduating ASAP with smaller internships.

[steel escarp]

FAANG would be better for reeturn offer but if ur confident that u can get new grad offer then go for it

[fickle juniper]

The thing is ur starting new grad recruitment right now if ur graduating may 2023

So if u feel ur ready I’d say go for it

[steel escarp]

i'm not ready

aaaaaaahhhhhh

[fickle juniper]

Me neither

[steel escarp]

i'm still younggg

[vapid oracle]

Wait oops, may 2024...

[fickle juniper]

Oh what lol

[vapid oracle]

I have an internship from September until april 2023

Then the summer

Then eight months of school, then grad

[steel escarp]

try faang in summer lol

[fickle juniper]

I’d try to get FAANG or whatever for May 2023

[steel escarp]

hubspot would be nice 🤣

[fickle juniper]

Like basically treat the May 2023 internship as if ur going for ur new grad

[vapid oracle]

Okay sounds good

[fickle juniper]

HubSpots really good ngl

Only thing is pays kinda low

[steel escarp]

wdym

150 ng

is god

in canada

👀

[fickle juniper]

Wlb is tops, work from anywhere with no COL adjustment

Fast promos too

[vivid fiber]

ya what r u talkin bout they pay v well

[vapid oracle]

When do Hubspot internship apps open?

[steel escarp]

me simping hubspot

👀

[fickle juniper]

Only downside is low pay compared to top new grad offers and inflated titles

156k new grad was top band offers last sem

[vivid fiber]

Ya 156k is very good

[fickle juniper]

Most get like 145

[steel escarp]

i'd pref to get hubspot

[vivid fiber]

Still very good

[steel escarp]

and stay n calgary

👀

[vivid fiber]

Y'all gotta touch grass if ur comparing Hubspot salaries to Meta

[fickle juniper]

I mean compared to Meta which is $0 TC return

[steel escarp]

even meta in canada

is lower than hubspot

whatchu talking about lol

meta in canad isi like 90k base + stock + signon

[lucid berry]

200k new grad or nothing 🤪

[vapid oracle]

Meta's kind of suffering a lot right now. Getting return offers there is kind of dicey.

[vivid fiber]

U kno u gotta take a break from this server when ur saying 145k tc is bad...

[steel escarp]

145k is bad

im taking a break now

[fickle juniper]

Yeah that’s true lol

[steel escarp]

🤡

[vapid oracle]

400k or bust

[vivid fiber]

The point wasnt comparing Hubspot to Meta, but comparing Hubspot to any place payig 200k

[fickle juniper]

Even like 1yr ago I would’ve thought 145k was insane

[vivid fiber]

I still think 120k tc is insane

[fickle juniper]

But this server in such a short amount of time ruined me lol

[steel escarp]

ikr

[vivid fiber]

Until I have a ft job offer I aint gonna be picky

[steel escarp]

im so down to get 120k

[fickle juniper]

There was a time I thought 80k was insane

[lucid berry]

DONT LET SOULKKS FOOL YOU 145K IS POVERTY

[vivid fiber]

I still do

My mom has been workin for 20 years and makes less than that

[vapid oracle]

I think society in general brainwashed you into thinking 80k was acceptable.

Minimum wage should be 90k

[vivid fiber]

I agree to an extent tbh

People in all fields are underpaid

But as it stands, 80k is still good

and 100k+ str8 outta uni is amazing

[fickle juniper]

I’m really curious if I do the rest of my internships at Hubspot, so like 1yr total

[vapid oracle]

The problem is just that housing is disproportionately expensive from all the money laundering and investing

[fickle juniper]

If I could start new grad as a senior LOL

[vapid oracle]

If it wasn't for the 2000 dollar rent, 50k would be fine

[vivid fiber]

that is tru as well

but if u got wfh its blessed

u can just mov to a lcol area

[fickle juniper]

Have u heard of Point Roberts @vapid oracle

[vapid oracle]

Yeah, that's the main reason I like tech tbh. Even if it paid low salaries, the wfh is such a huge advantage.

[vapid oracle]

No

[lucid berry]

Where is it that's 2k rent?

[vivid fiber]

Downtown toronto

can get very pricey

[lucid berry]

oof

for one bedroom?

[vivid fiber]

ya

[lucid berry]

Jeez

[fickle juniper]

Point Roberts
https://goo.gl/maps/EpyZJrtGzWNWVVzr5

[vapid oracle]

Plenty of places in Vancouver

[vivid fiber]

I kno one dude payin like 1500

and its not a gr8 place

[lucid berry]

[vapid oracle]

I'm so grateful for my place in west van for 1000 dollars/month

[vapid oracle]

Oh is that place ultra expensive or something?

[fickle juniper]

Point Roberts is like just south of Delta in BC

No it’s really cheap but a lot of ppl there commute to Vancouver every day for work

[vapid oracle]

Ooh

[fickle juniper]

Like 1hr drive to UBC for example

I wonder if I can do HubSpot here and get USD lol

[vapid oracle]

Yeah that could be a pretty good deal

[fickle juniper]

It’s WA so no state tax

It is like middle of nowhere

John Tortorella who used to coach the Canucks lived here

[steel escarp]

wonder if hubspot let u work pt during school year?

[fickle juniper]

They do

[steel escarp]

👀

[fickle juniper]

There’s one guy who got pt return

[steel escarp]

holy i shoulda tried for hubspot

but got resume rejected

😭

[fickle juniper]

But honestly why not work full time during school yr lawl

[steel escarp]

ikr

👀

[fickle juniper]

Ur probably not doing that much anyway

[steel escarp]

fk wlb

996 as a student

[vapid oracle]

You guys are too smart. I'd die trying to do classes and work together

[steel escarp]

when we said why not work ft during school

it means