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proud bison
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dont worry about it

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they will be counting some counties where he has heavy lead

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but those 2 counties have like 1.1k votes

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and those 2 where biden has heavy lead have like 4.5k

little bison
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ahh im honestly worried about pa

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94% counted and its still very red

proud bison
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when you say worried, you are worried whether we get 50k lead or 80k lead?

little bison
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any kind of lead

proud bison
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lmao

little bison
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theres still a 25k diff

proud bison
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bruh

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and 175k votes

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where Biden leads 70-80%

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the real tension is whether we get an extra state of Georgia or not

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PA has been ours since the morning

errant isle
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Is John King taking a break

proud bison
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the guy who was presenting instead of John King was rude lol

lofty siren
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John king prob going to sleep

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Will be back tmr at around 10

proud bison
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John King will wake up to President Biden

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thats really dumb that in PA they couldnt count vote until election day

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we would have had President Biden already yesterday

proud bison
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PA 18k

proud bison
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Georgia 1.2k

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I'm going to sleep

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and wake up

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to blue PA and GA

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💪

crimson leaf
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georgia lead

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😮

little bison
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Blue GA. PA still red. I'm not sure blue ga's going to hold

crimson leaf
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PA blue now

restive dagger
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is the latest wage structure of h1b going to be reversed under Biden?

lofty siren
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John king is back

median hare
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Oh shit PA is blue

proud bison
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I'm going to sleep
and wake up
to blue PA and GA
@proud bison

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I just woke up

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Good morning America

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Why they didn't call PA yet? It's outrageous

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There are still 124k votes left to be counted in PA, we are winning by 50-140k as I was saying yesterday

livid glacier
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they'll call PA later today I think

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still 35k votes in pittsburgh area that can;'t be counted until 5pm due to litigation by trump admin

proud bison
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yeah but like bruh

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at leat 75% of them are Biden

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now in order for Biden to lose PA

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in the remaining votes in PA he would need to have less than 50%

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and he has 70-80%

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they had guts to call AZ but not PA which is already a done deal?

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"In conversations with allies in recent days, President Trump has said he has no intention to concede the election to Joe Biden, even if his path to a second term in office is effectively blocked by losses in places like Georgia and Pennsylvania."

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Looking forward to seeing Trump removed from WH by military lmao

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let that dumbass stop counting now

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then we won with 306 electoral votes lmaooo

livid glacier
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haha

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facts

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we'll see where his litigation takes him tho

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and ga sec of state said recount happening if margins stay this close

proud bison
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bro we are winning PA by 50k+, he cannot do shit except for whine a little bit

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GA recount is coming for sure

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no matter if Biden or Trump wins

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but GA is just a nice addition

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PA determined the election for President Biden

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the fact that they didnt call him yet is just because Trump makes atmosphere in the US rn that everyone is scared of calling President Biden

livid glacier
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yeah true actually

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as long as PA margin is big

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we're good

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cuz then everything else is just a buffer from trump pulling some cheese in court

proud bison
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exactly

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also we got over 60k of the remaining 250k in AZ

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and Trump had only 52.8% there

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so now he will need 58% in the remaining 190k in order to flip AZ

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I think it's possible that AZ stays too

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so then Trump would need to flip PA and 2 more states in order to win presidency

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not happening

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this election is over guys

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Congrats!!!

lofty siren
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Major W for any sane person

proud bison
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Yeah but especially internationals, our lives hinged on this shit

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and we couldnt even vote lol

hidden jewel
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dubs all around

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fell asleep at 9pm

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woke up at 430am saw GA flip blue

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fell back aslee

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woke up to PA flip blue

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its been a good day

little bison
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@hidden jewel exact same thing with me too lmao. all that blue 💙'

hidden jewel
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did NC just give up on counting

proud bison
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NC is like im out of this shit

proud bison
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Remember how Trump made us feel on July 7th? That's how he feels now lmao

crimson nimbus
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NC said they'd finish counting by 14th lmao

proud bison
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fuck them

crimson nimbus
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dont even need them tbh

proud bison
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its good that GA and PA didnt say that lol

crimson nimbus
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trump needs NC morre

proud bison
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trump doesnt need NC

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Trump needs a fuckin God stepping on Earth and starting making miracles

crimson nimbus
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only the red states tried slowing down counting votes

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but idk, maybe im just saying shit

proud bison
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I think everyone slowed down

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because now they got to hard votes

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like the ones that need to be verified and shit

crimson nimbus
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true

proud bison
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Biden has victory speech today

crimson nimbus
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The only positive thing that came out of this year

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Rather, the only thing that went the way I wished for it to

proud bison
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WE ARE 4.2K ABOVE TRUMP IN GA!!

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They should call GA now

lapis wharf
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Lol they probs got that many in military/provisionals to count then there will be re-count

proud bison
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4.2k lead, there is no enough votes to overcome it

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Trump would probably need like 90% or more of whatever is left

livid glacier
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he'd need 75 pct of millitary votes

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which is possible

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but improbable

proud bison
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President Biden has 0.5% lead in PA, why don't they fuckin call it jesus

median hare
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The associated press just called the race

dense mantle
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Let's goooo

livid glacier
crimson leaf
lethal wing
brittle mesa
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Election fake when

crimson leaf
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lol

hidden jewel
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congrats my fellow internationals

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its been quite a ride

fresh fulcrum
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Let’s hope some actual improvements come through. Being scared of your immigration status is not a fun thing

little bison
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It's been such a wild ride. Glad to have had y'all here

proud bison
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Donald, you're fired

candid cliff
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congratssssssssss

civic hollow
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Are all international students finding it tough to get interviews?

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for new grad full time roles

fresh fulcrum
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Have you tried improving your resume? If you’re not getting callbacks at all it’s probably that and also the job market is pretty much screwed up right now.

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Perhaps walk into your schools career centre to have them help you with the resume

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Also talk to your professors they might have connections to recruiters or have someone write you a referral, that can come in handy

civic hollow
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Had my resume checked by a lot of people. No issues there. Even by people in the industry

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At least that's what I think

proud bison
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Just a friendly reminder that in 73 days, Stephen Miller will leave the White House.

proud bison
obsidian ridge
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I wil be graduating in Dec and applied for OPT on Oct-15. I haven't received tracking number. anyone knows how long(approx) will it take to receive it?

lofty siren
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My package was received on oct 21 but I don’t have a tracking number either, and my check hasn’t been cashed

tepid brook
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Do faang companies offer fall internships in canada as well?

craggy mango
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yes

solemn leaf
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anybody have experience with codility?
how is it different from hackerrank?

clear wagon
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If I remember correctly, you don't have access to all test cases on codility.

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But usually you can run all test cases on Hackerrank

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I don't like Codility at all in my opinion

brittle mesa
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It depends on company imo

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I've seen challenges where all tests were available

digital vector
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Does anyone know if Adobe starts eb3 process when you are on OPT?

warm fable
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Hey guys, I'm an international student gonna be graduating from Georgia Tech in May. I've had very little success getting interviews this semester (Had one with Citrix and got rejected). Do you guys have any companies where I can still apply/will open up in spring?

gilded patio
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I would suggest looking up on LinkedIn/Glassdoor/Indeed.

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@warm fable and good luck btw

soft rover
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has anyone here taken a semester off and graduate a semester late on F1 visa and got any issue applying for OPT?

zenith thistle
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Just a friendly reminder that in 73 days, Stephen Miller will leave the White House.
@proud bison who is he?

proud bison
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@proud bison who is he?
@zenith thistle it's the nazi in Trump administration who threatens and controls the heads of DHS and is responsible for every single evil and harmful immigration policy in Trump administration

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he is the only person who when enters the room in the White House, all officials in the Trump administration look down

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They were saying that, in this term, he wasn't able to realize his program because every time he wanted to do something, Trump campaign was telling him that it will kill Trump's chances for reelection, and he was preparing a real hell for us in the 2nd term

obsidian ridge
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has anyone here taken a semester off and graduate a semester late on F1 visa and got any issue applying for OPT?
@soft rover I did that, i have not encountered any issues so far

lofty siren
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Fuck him

spark merlin
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@obsidian ridge did you have to go through a whole academic year again to be eligible for CPT after your leave?

proud bison
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I hope he doesn't kick us out of the US or something in the last 70 days of him in the office

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my country has closed borders rn lol

soft rover
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@soft rover I did that, i have not encountered any issues so far
@obsidian ridge wait can I DM you

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@obsidian ridge did you have to go through a whole academic year again to be eligible for CPT after your leave?
@spark merlin i was asking my school and they said that as long as you are not outside the state for mote than 5 months you are good??

pale karma
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my country has closed borders rn lol
@proud bison why though?

proud bison
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cuz of coronavirus

pale karma
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Mind asking which country?

proud bison
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Europe

pale karma
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Oh ok

brittle mesa
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Is it us->europe

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It was v easy for me to come canada->europe in September

errant isle
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does bny mellon sponsor?

young moth
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So I got CPT authorization to do my internship in my I-20, but my college said that my employer would have to fill out a form, and I emailed my recruiter telling her about that and she hasn't filled the form yet

median hare
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@young moth Follow up with recruiter. Usually they want to keep a copy of that form; and also need authorization to fill it out

rotund kindle
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is this H1B stuff like the new wages and directly related degree rule likely to stick around even w a Biden administration? I know we can only speculate but just curious if anyone has any insight

small flame
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Biden supports wage rule policy, just not the absurd way the trump admin did it. So i think a more realistic version of it might be released

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he outlined it in his immigration plans on his campaign website.

rotund kindle
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@small flame ok that’s good to know! I’m not super familiar w US politics but do you know if these current H1B restrictions eventually expire or have to be overturned?

small flame
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I’m not closely following, but there are a couple of lawsuits against the current rule and some lawyers are saying it’s a easy win since the admin did it without following law.

rotund kindle
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Thank you! Was having an anxious day abt all this uncertainty I appreciate you replying 🙂

proud bison
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is this H1B stuff like the new wages and directly related degree rule likely to stick around even w a Biden administration? I know we can only speculate but just curious if anyone has any insight
@rotund kindle I would say, just expect Biden administration to cooperate with companies

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you can rest assured that big tech lobby will go to Biden ASAP to bring back normality to this country

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and they will probably come up with reasonable solution

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cuz giving international students path to work in the US and support the economy is a no-brainer

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but for Trump xenophobia is more important than economy

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just the question is how much Biden will be able to achieve with divided House, and Republican Senate

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but in Obama/Bush times, Bill Gates just approached the head of DHS and was like "yo I need STEM OPT" and they created it lol

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anyone can share their experience? i heard that its harder for us to switch company because once your gc has already been applied youre stuck at that company, but others say once i140 is approved there are no issues changing companies (?)
@cunning umbra yeah I think there is some point at which you get EAD even tho you are still waiting for Green Card, I'm just not sure how many years you need to wait for that, if you are not Indian/Chinese, I think you should get it in 1-2 years

lethal wing
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Which country are u from damian👀

proud bison
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I'm from Europe

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why

lethal wing
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Nah Just seeing you so familiar with these things make me wonder where do you come from 🙂

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pika_blob are you inside USA now Damian

proud bison
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yeah I haven't left the US for a year because of the pandemic

lethal wing
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me neither

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I barely leave the residence I currently live in

proud bison
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I'm afraid to leave the US with Trump in charge of letting me back...

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yeah exactly

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it's terribl

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stuck in this room for over half a year now

lethal wing
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yep Trump administration so horrible

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Worst experience ever

proud bison
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I'm glad that at least I'm not a freshman

lethal wing
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Hopefully in return I can get a decent job after graduation

proud bison
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would have 0 experience

lethal wing
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why so bad as a freshman

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okay

proud bison
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cuz you don't meet anyone

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also, they are not allowed into the US

lethal wing
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yep I dont really know anyone from my university right now

proud bison
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the 7th July rule has been rescinded, but only for sophomores/juniors/seniors

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Hopefully in return I can get a decent job after graduation
@lethal wing with Biden in charge now, most likely yeah

lethal wing
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🙂 great

proud bison
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with Trump, highly unlikely...

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it's really a blessing

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that he lost

lethal wing
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Trump is so crazy

proud bison
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his actions don't benefit anyone

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they are just evil and xenophobic

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there is literally 0 benefit

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to anyone

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not US workers, not universities, not companies, not economy

lethal wing
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🙂 well he is gone now

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🙂 we can have hope again

proud bison
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Unfortunately not yet

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he is still here for 2 months

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I'm kinda scared

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of what he may do to us during that time

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for now he is too busy with his child playing with election

lethal wing
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okay 😦

proud bison
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but let's hope he doesn't do anything too crazy

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that would impact us immediately

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and anything else, Biden may reverse

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where are you from

lethal wing
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China

proud bison
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oh nice, then you should be especially happy that he is gone

lethal wing
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pika_blob yeah kind of lol

proud bison
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they even wanted to abolish F1 visas for Chinese students because "they steal American knowledge to support China's military" wtf

lethal wing
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yeah insane...

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I am glad he is gone now 🙂

proud bison
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universities here would die without Chinese students, I took a grad level course at my university and 90% were international students from China

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Trump is too dumb to understand things like that

lethal wing
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hahaha

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true

proud bison
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Canada's response to pandemic was increase immigration because immigrants will help them rebuild the economy, while Trumpland's response was to ban all immigration

lethal wing
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universities too expensive for american students

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well Canada has less people

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I have been there. Such a nice place with little people

proud bison
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yeah but they have less usable land I think

lethal wing
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If only there are more jobs in Canada, I would have gone to Canada for sure

proud bison
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the climate in most places makes it difficult to live

lethal wing
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true 🙂 maybe that is why not many job opportunities

proud bison
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I mean US has always been amazing at innovation, attracting the most brilliant people from the whole world who were making this country great

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just now it took a different route

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because of Trump

lethal wing
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Yeah because of Trump 🙂

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I guess with him gone everything will be better

proud bison
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I'm sure Canada would start having better job prospects soon if Trump stayed in charge of the US

lethal wing
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hahaha true

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people from China are starting to go to Canada for further study

proud bison
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yeah exactly cuz for most smart immigrants Canada is like the second best place to work in after the US

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so if the US treats them like trash

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they will just go to Canada

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and make Canada great

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instead of the US

lethal wing
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so true 🙂

proud bison
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and companies would also start increasing workforce in Canada because the talent would be going there

lethal wing
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omg you are like an expertise in this immigration stuff

proud bison
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yeah I spent a lot of time on it lol

lethal wing
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🙂 your thoughts are exactly those I have read on Chinese forums these days lol

proud bison
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yeah, it's sad that most Americans don't see it

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and they think

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that if foreigners don'tget H1bs

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then there will be more jobs in the US for them

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wtf

lethal wing
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hahaha

proud bison
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CEOs of top companies are former H1bs

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Google, Microsoft

lethal wing
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as if they are not being considered first right now

proud bison
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Tesla, SpaceX, PayPal founded by Elon Musk

lethal wing
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I mean if they are qualified enough, companies wont even hire immigrants in the beginning

proud bison
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and they think that they will have more jobs if those people don't come to the US wtf

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yeah exactly

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it's so hard to hire foreigners

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no company would do that if they didn't have very serious reasons for it

lethal wing
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so hard. Companies will have to pay extra money to do that

proud bison
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and you need to deal with people like Trump

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and they need to sue government all the time to protect us

lethal wing
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yeah so contradictory

proud bison
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Trump's propaganda is telling his supporters that those companies fight that hard because we are cheap labor

lethal wing
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impossible

proud bison
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fuckin cheap labor that gets $200k+ straight out of college

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lmfao

lethal wing
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there are so many procedures and extra fees to pay to hire a foreigner

proud bison
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yeah it's so expensive lol

lethal wing
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yeah and also sde is like so highly compensated in USA

proud bison
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but Trump's supporters don't understand it

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because they just believe the convenient "truth" that Trump presents to them

lethal wing
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Trump is crazy as hell

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🙂 I mostly just watch him as a clown

hushed hearth
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he is just a very selfish opportunist imo

proud bison
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yeah

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Trump doesn't give a shit about anything but himself

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he is so defensive rn

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like bruh

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since he lost the election

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he didn't do shit for the country

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he appeared once in public

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and other than that

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he was 24/7 watching TV

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and tweeting

hushed hearth
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I wonder if he is just trying to blackmail everyone into protecting him from all the legal stuff which awaits him after the election

proud bison
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as if he was unemployed lmao

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I wonder if he is just trying to blackmail everyone into protecting him from all the legal stuff which awaits him after the election
@hushed hearth yes

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Trump has always been blackmailing people

lethal wing
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if only he could behave like how Clinton did when she lost to him

proud bison
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he fired so many people since he lost election

hushed hearth
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the fact that he fired so many ppl in defensive branches is kind of scary though

lethal wing
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maybe he wanna fire the entire government so that he can make it worst for Biden to take over

proud bison
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yeah Trump is just replacing every official with loyalists like a dictator

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he resembles Hitler's early days in politics way too much

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we better pray he leaves that White House on January 20th and his story ends

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maybe he wanna fire the entire government so that he can make it worst for Biden to take over
@lethal wing yeah he definitely wants that

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let's just hope it's the only thing he wants

hushed hearth
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I doubt that he has much support in the army though

proud bison
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not some coup or shit

lethal wing
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pika_blob I dont think he has

hushed hearth
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he prob is just being petty and/or trying to safe himself

proud bison
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ye

small flame
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I got to say — the public’s rhetoric on H1Bs is ridiculous. I personally know many families on H1B who bring in $500k+ a year. How tf are they cheap labor. It’s ironic that people who say this are the real cheap labors. Ik that sounds harsh, but it’s true.

lethal wing
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Imagine 500k per year as cheap labor

proud bison
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yeah, we are literally getting replaced with cheap Americans where possible lmao

young moth
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Still nothing from my recruiter, even though I sent her another email 😣

hidden jewel
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Still nothing from my recruiter, even though I sent her another email 😣
@young moth it’s the weekend though

young moth
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Nothing yet

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She hasn’t even opened my email

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I feel so lost

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Who should I email?

hidden jewel
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My understanding is you're getting CPT for a summer internship

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my internship last year started on May 26th

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my lazy ass started the CPT process on May 1st

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there's no rush it'll be fine

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also usually an offer letter with complete internship start and end date should be enough for your CPT office

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which you should already have

young moth
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Yeah but they told me I need Salesforce to fill out a form

deft copper
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No rush

proud bison
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I got an offer May 20th, filled for CPT May 20th, started working June 1st, chill

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It's surprising your school even allows to file for CPT so early

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mine won't let you till March

opal jetty
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my school lets us file for CPT 90 days before the internship start date

little bison
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Yeah there's no rush. If it's been a month reach out again

autumn linden
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guys im really having a freaking rough time

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do yall fill in the apps "now or in the future requried sponsorship" a yes or no? my school told me no

quiet vine
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i put yes

lofty siren
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I put yes

autumn linden
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yea my school told me that we are authorized to work during school under CPT and if you in stem, its up to 3 years OPT. so technically no, maybe if u going to stay at that company for like 10 years but definitely not while you going to stay for 1-2 years :/ thats why i put no

sharp heart
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I do feel companies automatically reject us when we put yest

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yes*

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but I kinda feel like yes it the right way to go, even with CPT

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sorry OPT*

autumn linden
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there should be like a hub for companies that accpet us

lethal wing
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@autumn linden how is your response rate

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I put yes and got like 5% response rate

autumn linden
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around the same

quiet vine
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yeah I sorta suspect that it automatically rejects you from most startups and small-mid size companies

autumn linden
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i noticed that i heard back a little more

quiet vine
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but they're going to find out eventually

autumn linden
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they find out when we accept the offera and they do I-9

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i always check with them first tho

proud bison
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I put sometimes yes, sometimes no, 33% response rate

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really depends on the wording

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then I always clarify immediately during interviews

lethal wing
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33% insane

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👀 good for u

autumn linden
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it's crazy on how they considered CPT as needing a sponsorship even tho we have like atleast 4 years to work there

lethal wing
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Yeah so stupid

autumn linden
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anyone have gotten and internship and from where?!?1

sacred mantle
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I've only landed 1 offer and 2 interviews so far. Out of 270 applications

autumn linden
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do you mine share where for the offer?

candid cliff
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Are there any 2020 new grads here

sacred mantle
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Yeah, I got an offer at Amazon and I have my interview with FB tomorrow

autumn linden
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did you apply online for facebook @sacred mantle

sacred mantle
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Yeah... and a recruiter reached out

autumn linden
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wow 😦 when did you apply? i never heard back

sacred mantle
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Back in Sept

autumn linden
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interview then decision correct?

sacred mantle
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Yeah

autumn linden
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can i see your blacked out resume?

sacred mantle
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2 rounds

proud bison
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Lol, when you landed 2 interviews out of 270 and they are Amazon and Fb

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are you a freshman/sophomore?

lethal wing
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@sacred mantle did you apply to fb with a referral or not?

sacred mantle
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Nah, I'm a junior

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I applied to FB online with no referral

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Last year I heard back from Google for SWE internship. So I was expecting another interview from Google this year.
I even applied with 2 referrals for Google! However, Google ghosted me :/

grave cobalt
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After interview? @urban crystal

autumn linden
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are we even allow to make a website/apps and have ads and maybe make money off it?

little bison
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I think not

thorny sapphire
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is any other new grad feeling severely anxious because of the new H1B wage rule? I feel majority entry level jobs will not qualify (except maybe few big companies)

autumn linden
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uh sorry whats the new rules?

rotund kindle
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I think they are likely to be reversed when the Biden administration comes through right?

autumn linden
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it might take times so no one knows

median swift
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Any new grad here still without a job? 😔

rotund kindle
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I think by the time 2021 grads need a h1b it’ll def be overturned

small flame
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biden admin supports the wage rule as well, so even if it’s overturned it may be reimplemented. but the wage levels will be realistic though.

sturdy granite
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Hey everyone, im just wondering does a us remote job require work permit? I’m Canadian and planning to stay in Canada.

brittle mesa
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@sturdy granite, no if any of:

  1. company has canadian entity
  2. hires you as contractor
  3. hires you through a personal company(i think they are called peo or something, essentially you are an employee for them and they charge your employer some fees)
sturdy granite
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thanks dude, it’s hard for everyone 💩2020

sturdy granite
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God I’m crying

winter parcel
#

can internationals do fall internships?

deft copper
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Only part time

brittle mesa
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Some schools let you do CPT then right

autumn linden
#

yep ^

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CPT is for during school, spring/fall = 19hrs/week max and summeer 40hrs/week

sacred mantle
#

I know peeps in my university who did FAANG internships in the fall using CPT

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So, I'm sure it's possible if your university offers Coop

sacred mantle
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Yeah

little bison
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All off-season stuff depends on your school and the way status works at your school. Best to ask your DSO

spiral moss
#

i am from Georgia(Country). I major in Business administration thus won't have CS degree, however in parallel I study CS subjects too. What are the odds(given my education and country for Visa) I will land offer in fang or other big tech companies?🤔 🤔

autumn linden
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I went to Georgia! so pretty!

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I'm not sure about this, depends if you currently attending a US school?

spiral moss
#

Thanks^^ No, I don't attend US school. As I know most of our CS graduates who land offer from big tech companies, start working mostly in European headquarters like Berlin or Madrid

autumn linden
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um I'm an international student (attending to US school) and they still consider us as needing "sponsorship" i would just try to apply and see anyway!

spiral moss
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what does US school mean? I don't understand meaning

shut drum
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@spiral moss You could apply to FAANG companies in London as well. It should be easier for non-EU residents to apply to jobs and get a work visa starting Jan 1st

spiral moss
#

@shut drum and what changes after Jan 1st?

shut drum
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Brexit. It's going to ruin the UK but at least EU applicants for jobs don't have priority over non-eu regardless of ability or experience

spiral moss
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Mhh, never thought about it, good point. But I still think that these companies would prefer local interns rather than searching for them. Probably becoming junior dev would be easier

shut drum
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And I believe there are more incentives to bring non-eu applicants in

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Eh you'd be surprised especially with FAANG

spiral moss
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why?

shut drum
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FAANG cares more about talent than the potential cost of sponsoring a visa

brittle mesa
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Uhh cost is almost never a problem

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It's the uncertainty

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Eg

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Fb us hires a lot of f1 students because they can do opt while trying for h1b

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Or would hire Canadians studying in canada because they can be brought on tn

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But not internationals in canada because then they have to sponsor from day 1

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Which is big uncertain

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As chances for undergrads was 30%

spiral moss
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These Visa related topics are so complicated :(

brittle mesa
#

Ya it's very annoying

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Especially that you can get an offer but still not pass the lottery

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Even if you do

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You've to apply in march

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To come in October ish

spiral moss
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Don't companies help you to like, I don't know, send you visa for working, or something like that? 🤔

brittle mesa
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Yeah but it's a lottery for the us

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Before the recent changes

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So they can help you

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You can have the best job

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But you still have a 1/3 chance

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To get the visa

spiral moss
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If I want to get H1b I should have cs degree as well. I guess I am stuck

reef jungle
#

@spiral moss H1B is not the only way. there's also L1 which is a guaranteed path to the US if you work at a EU branch of a US company for at least 1 year. then you can transfer to a team in the US. the only caveat is that you can't switch companies once you're in the US until you get H1B or green card

spiral moss
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@reef jungle oh now i get it. So first step is to start working in EU country. Thanks

small granite
#

Hey guys! I was wondering if anyone is familiar with how OPT jobs work. I just got let go from my company yesterday and I only have 3 days of OPT unemployment left. I not sure what my options are to stay in America. I don't know if I can find another jobs within these 3 days.

rotund kindle
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If you’re not on STEM OPT you can do anything even unpaid- find a startup or a prof at your school that needs volunteers (as long as it’s CS related)

small granite
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@rotund kindle Thank you! I'll look into that.

cunning umbra
#

Have y'all been getting interviews?

gilded patio
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@cunning umbra nope! I think this year is hard on international students.

plucky leaf
#

will i be allowed to get a summer 2021 internship in US if i started college (US school) this fall remotely from my home country, because i read somewhere that we need to be in US for at least 1 academic year to be eligible for CPT ?

cunning umbra
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So you won't be eligible to work on cpt for 2021 summer

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I would suggest you to look for internship in your home country and then start applying for new grad positions in US

plucky leaf
#

cpt is required even if the internship is online ?

cunning umbra
#

Are you gonna stay in us at that time?

plucky leaf
#

probably no, if the internship is online

cunning umbra
#

Then maybe

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If you're in US, you definitely can't do remote work

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But if you are in your home country, idk

strong trail
reef jungle
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frugality principle lol

stuck ridge
#

Doesnt netflix seem awfully low compared to levels.fyi and the fact that they only hire senior swe's?

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@stiff peak is this chart for people getting the job and then moving from their home country to the USA or for people having a few years of industry in the USA and then applying to another H1B company?

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if its the first one then i can see why

autumn linden
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I had 5 interviews and only heard back from 1(offer). applied to 100+

random shore
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^three interviews, 1 offer, 200+ applied AmongSinful

proud bison
#

I think that Lot Gatos has skyrocketed average salaries only because Netflix is there and they pay like half a million on average to H1bs lmao

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I don't know where did they get that ranking

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If you look up database of H1bs

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there is not a single one that has base salary below $300k

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and I think only like 2 or 3 have below $400k

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^ for Netflix

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But it's only 55 people in a year

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top of the top of the top with years of experience

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Also @autumn linden @random shore congrats on your offers, 1 offer from only 3 interviews is amazing 💪 that's making the most of the scarce opportunities the life gives you

random shore
#

Ty, it was stressful, haha but shotgun applying worked in a sense

reef jungle
#

holi shiet those netflix base salaries be like thanospog

polar oyster
#

For those who entered the us before

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and left

#

were you able to keep your bank accounts opened?

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and use apps like Robinhood

brittle mesa
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@polar oyster yes

polar oyster
#

ty

candid cliff
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Heard from an immigration lawyer, the wage rule got overwritten or something?

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Or did they change the level by a smaller percentage

clear wagon
#

The wage level has been set aside

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wage level *rule

candid cliff
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YAY!!!!!

autumn linden
#

any good news?

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any of yall's schools required to take internship courses for CPT?

errant isle
#

yes I was

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it was just some readings and quizzes on moodle tho

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I got 0.5 credits for that course

blazing kraken
#

same, I had to write reports and do a presentation by the end of it

solid estuary
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Mine requires weekly logs and a final report.

little bison
autumn linden
#

can you take the course twice

errant isle
#

for my school yes

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same course name different materials

small flame
#

s386 passed

molten gyro
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not completely

autumn linden
#

how will yall file your tax if you have to leave the US?

cunning umbra
#

Justo got my offer rescinded because of sponsorship issues :/

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I'm not even mad, frustrated a bit, but proud that I could get an offer

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I'm curious about other people here, did u get offers? are companies sponsoring u or not?

errant isle
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most big Ns and trading firms sponsor but ofc it’s competitive

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I got like 10% apply -> interview rate this year and all the companies that got back to me do sponsor

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it’s really a number game so keep applying

autumn linden
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i did interviews with Dell and Northwestern Mutual and got both offers!

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try them it's pretty easy, just the behavioral part

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i'm intervieiwng with expedia today and five rings tomorrow

brave pilot
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Do you apply and then make them aware that you need a h1b visa or do you just look for ones advertising h1b visa in the database and apply for those?

woven wind
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apply unless specifically mentioned that they don't sponsor

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and just hope you get a screen

brave pilot
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thanks

autumn linden
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I just got the offer from Expedia meow_mac

trail reef
#

Wen u too Expedia final

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Took*

autumn linden
#

today

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so updates: try to apply to these companies yall: goldman, expedia, northwestern mutual, dell. They all sponsor!

ocean thunder
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i honestly have no clue how sponsorship and stuff works

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company i got an offer from said they regularly have people from canada and it'll be easy-peasy

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not looking forward to tax time though

candid cliff
autumn linden
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Dell recruit until April I believe

errant isle
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goldman, salesforce and intuit are still interviewing afaik

dawn oasis
#

Has anyone/is anyone doing recruiting while outside of the US (I'm an international student back home because of covid)? Do companies mind, given that you'll be back in the US in time for the internship and authorization processes?

last yarrow
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They don’t seem to mind as long as you have work auth

dawn oasis
#

Yes they do

autumn linden
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yo wtf im having this weird conversation with my CS department and IS advisor. So I can't take internship courses so i can only do 1 in the summer. what if i wanna intern in fall? WTF

hidden jewel
#

you can definitely use CPT in non-summer seasons

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however the requirement is often that the internship has to last at minimum the entire duration of your school semester

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so for me, for example, if I wanted to intern in the fall I would have to find an internship from August 27 ish to December 16 ish

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usually around 16 weeks

autumn linden
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yea but apparent i have to take a course while doing so.. but what if i already took the course in the summer and can't repeat the course twice :/

blazing kraken
#

My school has an extra course for internships, but for the fall I could only work part time

autumn linden
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yea wtf now i feel like thats total unfair on my schools part

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im protesting

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lmao

autumn linden
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do yall get the taxes back from your tuitions?

proud bison
#

Trump sued Facebook for hiring H1bs instead of less qualified but not underqualified Americans lmfao

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can those people just leave that white house already

autumn linden
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i'm not sure if this true cause i'm not political but i thought trump is trying to regulate tech companies that take advantage of H1B workers? Like when they hired you and you have to do what do say (over work, work during weekends) or they will terminate your employment and get you deported?

small flame
#

FAANG pays and treats it’s H1 employees same as others. It’s rather WITCH that’s known for h1 exploitation.

grizzled kernel
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what is witch

small flame
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they are IT consulting companies

tacit lintel
#

does anyone know if fannie mae sponsors h1b?

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and how can I check?

proud bison
#

this facebook lawsuit is just one of the last attempts before leaving the office trying to make companies tired of trying to find ways to hire talent regardless of citizenship

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he just wants to leave some more permanent damage and ruin the international competitiveness that US has been building for hundreds of years so that Biden and future presidents won't be able to restore it easily

autumn linden
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dang i never knew that. It’s kinda hard to find facts these days

candid cliff
grizzled kernel
#

ty

autumn linden
#

platstation take international students?

sacred mantle
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I've seen a lot of people refer to those companies as that idk y

candid cliff
sacred mantle
#

Ah gotcha

ocean thunder
#

Trump presidency been pretty decent for canada's tech scene ngl

sweet wren
#

Can anyone share dell's SWE new grad position?

vital tartan
#

Hi did someone applied to STEP Zurich, STEP Munich or STEP Nehtherlands?

autumn linden
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@sweet wren not sure about new grad but intern...

#
Title: Undergraduate Intern
Date of Offer: December 2020
Location: Round Rock, TX
Duration: 12 weeks
Salary: $28.90/hour
Relocation/Housing: Yes and stipend
Perks: -```
heady lodge
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Expedia doesn't sponsor afaik

autumn linden
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wait what

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i thought they do?

woven wind
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they do

autumn linden
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wtf scared me for a second cause i just reneged my other option

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lol

sacred mantle
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they sponsor lol

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2 of my intl friends work ft there

small flame
heady lodge
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ah ok sorry, they resume rejected me like 5 times

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thought it was bc of that

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are you guys internationals studying in the us or international international?

tacit lintel
#

Can you get OPT on an expired visa? My visa expires a year before i graduate so i was thinking that if I dont leave the US I will be fine right?

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Given that my i20 has the correct dates

autumn linden
#

I would talk to your ISS and not risk this. i think you need a valid visa to be here

cedar bloom
#

Does JP Morgan hire intls?

tacit lintel
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i think OPT will increase your duration of status so you can stay in the US

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but you can't leave ofc or you will need a new visa to enter again

wary hazel
#

when you'll ask if xyz hires intls do you mean international students studying in the foriegn country or people aplying for the job from their home country?

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like studying in india and applying in uk

or studying in uk and applying in uk

cedar bloom
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second one^

wary hazel
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ahhh okay

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any list for companies where the first one is possible?

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assuming we can do LC well

brittle mesa
#

first one is very common no?

wary hazel
#

is it??

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which countries and companies any idea

brittle mesa
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if they sponsor h1bs, they are most likely going to be happy with opt->h1bs

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obviously there would be exceptions, but should be mostly true

wary hazel
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ahh it's first in my previous msg, sorry

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I know US is mostly impossible without studying in US, but what are the countries where newgrad/intern is possible without studying there

brittle mesa
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Canada, EU

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I studied in canada, moving to EU for new grad

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Interned in the US a bunch of times before covid

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EU visas are v easy to get and mostly deterministic, the main criterion being salary

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exact rules differ country to country

molten gyro
cedar bloom
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Maybe it was automated

rain tundra
molten gyro
#

Still ironic. Diversity but only among a subset of the population

violet sable
woven wind
#

adp doesn't sponsor right?

candid cliff
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It does

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I work there full time

brittle mesa
#

Adp/lifion sponsors massively I believe

ornate geyser
#

hey guys, i am studying a masters at a UK univesity (Manchester), later I want to work in the US, should I apply to jobs in the US (H1B) now or apply to companies with a branch in the US and take the L1 route instead? Do companies even give L1 for dev jobs? I've been apply for jobs in the us but I feel like I'm wasting my time (or I'm too late for 2021 intake), i dont know any better what to do

heady lodge
#

@brittle mesa what made you want to go to EU? also canadian here

brittle mesa
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Got a job in something I am interested in, and I prefer some of the eu cities over tor/vanc

heady lodge
#

nice! happy trails to you 🙂

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jw bc i've never been to europe

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most canadians i'd say want to go down south instead

brittle mesa
#

Yeah I think at my school 95% of canadian cs students who can get a job in the us will go?

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The only people who stay in canada are usually internationals or people who value family much more highly

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But even in those who say they value fam a lot tend to flip by 4th year as I'm seeing rn

heady lodge
#

haha yeah they've realized us pay is just so much better than here unfortunately

brittle mesa
#

Yeah it's getting slightly better now, especially at startups and unicorns

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I think I'll probs come back to Canada/us in 2-5 years?

heady lodge
#

yeah fair enough. good luck over there!

fair aurora
#

Hey, anyone here graduating this Fall from a US uni and applied for their OPT?

copper plinth
#

ok I love DRW now

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After reviewing your application, we saw that you indicated you would require sponsorship to fill this employment opportunity. At this time we are unable to sponsor foreign nationals for this position and therefore, we are unable to move forward with your application.

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I like that they were honest about sponsorship, this is the first company that has done this

brittle mesa
rocky scroll
#

@copper plinth I got same e-mail

rocky scroll
#

Doesn't having CPT mean you don't need sponsorship from the company for the internship since you're getting it from your university?

autumn linden
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no we dont need sponsorship for cpt/opt but still answer yes anyway

molten gyro
#

Usually companies hire interns so they can convert them to fte. If a company doesn’t sponsors for fte they won’t hire international interns (even though CPT doesn’t need sponsorship) either because they can’t convert them.

autumn linden
#

sadly 😦

cunning umbra
#

Can one move from opt to green card directly without dealing with hb1b? If it's EU citizen

candid cliff
#

Doesn't matter if it's EU citizen or not, there will be greater risk

#

Since OPT does not grant dual intent then you may have problems when you try to reenter the country if they find that you have "immigration" intent

#

Only H1B provides you that flexibility

#

Pretty dumb rule, I don't really get what is the benefit of preventing students to apply when there is stuff like green card lottery

molten gyro
#

NAL, but from what I’ve read, you can do it but it’s a little bit risky. As Chelsea mentions, OPT doesn’t grant dual intent so if you apply for GC while on OPT you are breaking that part of the “contract” from your visa. As long as you are part of ROW (rest of the world aka not Indian and non Chinese), GC processing takes ~2 years. So if you apply for GC as OPT it’s best if you don’t leave the US in that time so they don’t take your legal visa status

candid cliff
#

Well not preventing, but heavily discouraging. You can still apply for green card while in OPT

molten gyro
#

I mean that’s the info I’ve been able to gather. Something I will def look more into and ask immigration lawyers once I’m on opt

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Also you’d need a company that sponsors your green card

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Companies have different policies so it’s something you need to look and ask before you accept a full time job

candid cliff
#

@molten gyro do u know if we can work more than 40 hours while on opt?

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If yes, do we need to upgrade the SEVP portal?

molten gyro
autumn linden
#

does NASA take international studnets

candid cliff
#

Nah

autumn linden
#

bruh

candid cliff
#

They don't, security clearance

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:((((((((((((((

autumn linden
#

any of yall gonna do fall internship? i can't cause i can't do full time

rocky scroll
#

@molten gyro do people file for GC after getting the STEM extension or before?

molten gyro
cunning umbra
#

Ok thanks

vital tartan
#

Anyone from Mexico?

molten gyro
vital tartan
#

where?

molten gyro
autumn linden
#

wtf have yall heard from gov that vaccines for covid are free for American? wtf what about us non american

molten gyro
#

probably covered by school insurance

autumn linden
#

any of yall do spring or fall internships

solid estuary
#

I emailed my advisor and she said they only do internship for summer if you are an international student.

autumn linden
#

im gonna do pre OPT

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that gives me an opportunity to not having to take any intern course, in case you already did, and do internship

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downside is it eats away your OPT time. but we have STEM extension

stoic valley
#

Do u all americanize/shorten/change first or last name on resume? I have very hispanic/latinx name but use my actual legal one

autumn linden
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i don't so its easily for the recruiter to match resume and app, the more they see our names the more they remember, i think

#

my name is very very very very long and i had the same feeling where the recruiters might have skip me due to my name, that might be true some cases but im doing fine

heady lodge
#

but at the same time, it's a very personal decision

molten gyro
tacit lintel
#

When u switch from opt to h1b, do you have to go to your home country’s embassy to get a new visa or do u do it in the US?

#

I would assume there is a way to do in the US or does the company sponsoring you allow you to skip a couple of weeks to go get the h1b?

rocky scroll
#

Okay since CPT is illegal before 1 year period. When the MS students do their internships?

cunning umbra
#

anyone here from Europe who has obtained a return offer from Google?

solid estuary
rocky scroll
solid estuary
#

Other option is doing pre completion OPT

rocky scroll
solid estuary
cunning umbra
#

Are any of the intls here having trouble finding internships or is it just me?

#

Probably not lmao

#

But still

#

Lotta missed opportunities that’s the only thing

simple summit
#

anyone here know whether a company will apply for H1B lottery this year if you get an offer in Jan and join in late Jan itself or maybe early Feb?

brittle mesa
#

most companies are pretty upfront and direct about visa stuff so not an issue imo

graceful yoke
simple summit
#

@brittle mesa @graceful yoke yeah actually still have to do the onsites. So, was thinking whether to just accept the offers I have or wait for the decisions of the onsites.

reef thistle
stoic valley
#

I want to agree with you. I just worry about those who feel the anecdotal and statistical evidence against foreign names feel pressured by the bias

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I think people should retain the right to change their names on resumes as they see fit and the legal name should not be seen on recruiter/interviewer side because it’s irrelevant

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The legal name should still be provided of course, because duh. I’m referring to its visibility

reef thistle
#

for a lot of my friends that do it (not even international but those that are like asian-american or hispanic, etc.) it's not even about the pressure, it's more like, to each their own

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some don't really care about the pressure, and just do it cus they see the stats and want to maximize chances

#

some don't care about and want to be proud of an ethinic name, etc.

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both are fine

stoic valley
#

Yeah when another user said they would never work for a company that rejects on basis of name, i feel the same way. I will never change my hispanic name. I just wish this wasn’t even a problem lol

reef thistle
#

yeah I've heard that sentiment

#

but it's like

#

obviously nobody wants to work for a company that does that but

#

it's not like a policy?

#

linkedin comments esp are very stupid when it comes to this "I WoUlD neVeR wAnT tO wOrk For a CoMpAnY tHat dOes tHat"

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it's like.....ok? well every company does that inherently

stoic valley
#

Yeah i hear you tbh. I think when that’s said it’s also getting carried away because “alright dude lemme get this straight, one bias human HR person gave you a bad time so now the whole company sucks?”

Seems like a logical fallacy

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I think we tell ourselves “i would never want to work a company like that” partially as coping mechanism. Why bother expending mental energy thinking about how your name lowers your odds? If they do it to you, who cares, just keep applying

reef thistle
#

I think a lot of the people who say that

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are the ones that don't want to change their first name on the resume (which is fine)

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and they use the "i wouldn't wanna work for a company like that anyways" (wrong justification for the right reason imo)

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but like it's a systematic kind of bias that's not specific to any company

subtle knot
#

Can F1 visa students do 2 consecutive internships by taking a semester off from college? Like summer + fall.
Of course after fulfilling the 2 academic semesters requirement to be eligible for CPT

sullen hull
#

AFAIK, summer doesn't count towards the 365 day limit for CPT. So you can

#

Talk to your intl. student advisors.

rocky scroll
#

[POLL] Do you have an offer?
Click on Y if you do
N if you don't

brave sail
vital tartan
#

Hi, does someone knows about Interships for international students

#

And some that coud be for first-second year students?

small flame
#

try Google STEP, Microsoft Explore, and Facebook University

vital tartan
#

I already tried those

#

STEP rejected me, Explore hasn't answered and falied at interview with Facebook ):

solid estuary
#

Apply to every company that doesn’t explicitly state they can’t take international students and hope for the best

summer eagle
#

How much does university matter if you are out of top 20 for getting internships / jobs? I have heard mixed answers about this. For instance does it matter if I go to Penn State, NCSU or Buffalo?

candid cliff
#

It’s not about which school you go to, it’s about job tactics. Sure, recruiters do reach out to top 20 by appearing at their career fairs more often. But there are also career fairs outside of school

#

In general, most friends I’ve seen from those school still got internships/jobs as usual. NCSU is a pretty strong school. Tons of alumni at big companies

compact marten
#

Hi, so I'm a freshman international student and I applied to STEP and just got an interview. The problem is I'm currently not in the US and I recently found out I couldn't get OPT because of my status. This means I can't move forward with the application and I have to withdraw.

#

I was completely shocked when I saw the congratulations email and also really bummed out by the fact that I can't try my luck. I was wondering if there's anything I can salvage from this?

little bison
#

Do you go to a school in the US? Can you work currently/get work authorization in EMEA/APAC/Canada? J1s are banned but 2021 might see that overturned

compact marten
#

@cunning umbra Can't get CPT until Sophomore year unfortunately

#

@little bison Yeah I go to a college in the US. I was learning remotely for the first semester because of covid restrictions but I'll hopefully be on campus for the Spring semester. Not sure about the work authorization, can you tell me where I can find out?

#

I'm very new to this

hidden jewel
#

don't withdraw anything until you have all the details

compact marten
#

Here are all the details I found out. I got this info after I applied to STEP and didn't know how it will go. I can't get OPT because I won't have been on campus for two semesters by the end of the academic year. CPT won't work either for more or less similar reasons.

#

The interview window I was presented with is basically 4 weeks starting from January

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I asked the school's DSO about this and I was basically told that I'm out of luck. I didn't withdraw my application sooner because I was hoping for a miracle and I also really didn't think I would get an interview

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I go to a liberal arts college and I haven't declared a major yet. Basically yeah

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sucks

hidden jewel
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I believe thats a pretty normal CPT requirement

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i have that too

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you have to have been in the US for 2 semesters

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before being eligible for CPT

compact marten
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should I just inform the recruiter about my situation and tell them I will reapply next year

hidden jewel
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If you don't mind saying, is there a google office where you're from and do they have a STEP program there?

compact marten
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unfortunately they don't.

hidden jewel
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hol up lemme check mine you might be right

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Oh wait so the thing is, you need 2 semesters of F-1 SEVIS status before being eligible for CPT

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didn't people doing online semesters from abroad have an inactive SEVIS record for that semester

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they reactivate it when you're back in the States right?

compact marten
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yeah

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I think that's what my school's DSO was telling me

hidden jewel
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are you eligible to work in any other Google STEP location

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i.e can you obtain work auth in any other STEP location

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based on your citizenship

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Oh wait I think Allistyre asked the same thing above

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basically what you wanna evaluate now is whether you could be eligible for work authorization in other locations where google hosts the STEP program

compact marten
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that's a good idea. I haven't thought of that. I'm looking into it right now.

hidden jewel
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If not then yeah, you'll probably have to ask them to reconsider you next year. I really hope that they do give you the opportunity next year - google recruiting is kinda meh

compact marten
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ah turns out I can't work in any of the countries. Sucks.

compact marten
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I think all I can do at this point is just ask/beg them to reconsider me for next year.

autumn linden
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for preOPT, can we do part time off campus related to major but not 'internship'?

cedar bloom
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Question

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nvm

last yarrow
static musk
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Is anyone applying to grad school while on a F-1?

crimson helm
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@compact marten you can technically work from Canada too, do you think you can find a way to be located in Canada next summer?

compact marten
crimson helm
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Yes I think you should ask

little bison
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Can you get a work permit for any of the countries though? E.g Some countries can get work auth in Canada. Which continent are you from? Either way don't cancel the interview. If nothing works out you get your foot in the door and a possibly easier time getting an interview next year @compact marten

brittle mesa
static musk
brittle mesa
static musk
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@brittle mesa Is it restricted to certain countries citizens or are they available for all?

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Also what would be a typical procedure after getting a job in the countries described above?

brittle mesa
brittle mesa
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Also, this is for if the company has presence in these countries. Sry I forgot to mention

zenith thistle
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Ok so I've been seeing a lot of people doing bachelors in computer science (at US) getting multiple offers for intern roles, for different large companies (Like Amazon, FB, etc). Is this just happening for US citizens or are international students also getting multiple offers too?

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Only for full-time roles. Not for internship roles, unless they're gonna get converted to full-time.

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I'm not a 100% sure whether an international student studying outside the US can even apply for internships in the US.

static musk
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No in most cases, since you need work authorization, which international students in the US have as CPT/OPT

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Any CS graduate school recommendations for existing intl students in the US?

supple gulch
brittle mesa
graceful yoke
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Does anyone know any place that is providing the shooting OPT photo service

remote roost
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go to like walmart

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lots of places, it's just a normal passport style photograph right

graceful yoke
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Okay, ty

slate estuary
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Anyone travelled from India to UsA or is gonna travel anytime soon?

autumn linden
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anyone doing Fall internship

alpine socket
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Does anyone know of any internships offered in Japan? (I'm from Canada) - I know right now it won't be possible because of COVID...but hopefully in the future

graceful yoke
wary hazel
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try rakuten

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learning a little japanese will make all the startups and all ready to sponsor you ( src : clg senior who went to japan as a fresher ( from india not canada though. ) )

brittle mesa
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Rakhten hires a fair amount too

alpine socket
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I'll check them out, thanks @wary hazel @brittle mesa

potent grove
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Does anyone know if tech companies in the US are likely to take international interns. I am from Australia and the internship programs for tech over here quite frankly suck compared to the US.

potent grove
# brittle mesa They do a lot, yes

What is the best way to apply for them as an international student. Would you recommend contacting recruiters or is an online application fine?

brittle mesa
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I've only ever done online application on their websites and that's super rng

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Probably also harder now with covid

potent grove
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yeah are you not a US citizen aswell

brittle mesa
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Nahh that'd have been so much easier

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I don't go to school there either

potent grove
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agreed

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did you manage to get an internship through your online applications?

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I said compared to the US. Over there it is on another level.

brittle mesa
potent grove
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The internships work differently over here as well. Companies will only accept you if you are in your final year of study.

potent grove
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Most of the google and Atlassian Aus ones are the same.

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besides that is just two companies

brittle mesa
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It's a small us startup, I can pm name if you want

potent grove
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If you go on glassdoor over here there are a few internship listings. But if you look at the US there are pages.

brittle mesa
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I chose their german office over sf because I could actually go to berlin during covid 🤷‍♂️

potent grove
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Yeah I get what you are saying but my point is compared to the US it is nothing.

brittle mesa
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Honestly most countries are like that when compared to the us

potent grove
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Also google interships do be hard to get. ;(

brittle mesa
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I was open to literally every country when looking for ft work

potent grove
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Yeah QUT if you know the one

brittle mesa
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The % of good options outside the us is surprisingly low

potent grove
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Yeah Queensland University of Technology

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Wbu

brittle mesa
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Yepp i agree but I'm mostly interested in tiny startups and even that's very unbalanced

brittle mesa
potent grove
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I just did a big job hunt last night and most companies have a box that you can tick that says you will require soponsership

brittle mesa
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For internships a lot of companies do as it's very easy to do it. Both bigger and smaller ones
Full-time is harder as most companies don't want to sponsor before you can even start working as it takes a long time

potent grove
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Nice talking to you blokes but i gotta dip, also thanks for the advice nh. Very helpful!

brittle mesa
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I've no clue anymore sadly as I stopped looking for internships in feb and covid definitely changed a lot

potent grove
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not now

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our big break is at the end of the year

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so I would be thinking that they might be looking 6 months out.

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so June

brittle mesa
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Is australian intern visa readily available? Last time I was checking most companies really didn't wanna interview non au citizen/resident/student

potent grove
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nh do you know when companies are looking for applicants? is it 6 months out or a year

brittle mesa
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i think bigger ones start in sept for summer internships? smaller ones are more fluid, and start in sept-feb depending on company. i've signed stuff as late as 2 weeks before start date to as early as 6 months before

potent grove
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Yeah our visa system is very tight. Far worse than the US I think as the government like to protect the little Island we live on... Lol. I remember Atlassian actually got the government to pass less restrictive Visa policies quite recently because they were complaining about lack of talent. So it is worth giving it a shot

brittle mesa
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EU is a pretty nice option too as visas are simple and straightforward

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Idk man I just interned there and am going to netherlands for full time, and the visas were stupid easy

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and those two countries have the most swe jobs

potent grove
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Alright guys I actually have to go now. Good chat!

cunning umbra
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visa in europe is not hard compared to usa or australia and maybe canada(?)

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except Switzerland which is easy only for EU citizen

soft rover
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is anyone here like new grad on F1 visa lmao

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is there any difference in your tax compared to us citizen

molten gyro
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I think the only difference is that you might be elegible to not pay social security and Medicare

hidden jewel
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^

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you can be exempt from SS and Medicare

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and you should tell your company before you start work so that they dont withhold that amount

lofty siren
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But only if you haven't been in the US on your F1 visa for more than 5 years, so be careful with that

candid cliff
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Ya ^

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You can also opt out from 401K

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Well I do it anyways lol

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Hehe

safe tree
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Does anyone know when the results for the h1b lottery become available?

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Is it at the end of April and you can change you Visa by October, or I a messing up the months? 🤪

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I heard that the application starts in March with results on April

lofty siren
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@cunning umbra You need to consult your school. Some allow pre-completion CPT but most don't.

molten gyro
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It’s very hard to get a work visa

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It’s a lottery

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~ 1 / 3 prob you get it. F1 visa gives you three years to work so 3 tries

solar cairn
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USCIS

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services has announced a final rule that will modify the H-1B cap selection process, amend current lottery procedures, and prioritize wages to protect the economic interests of U.S. workers and better ensure the most highly skilled foreign workers benefit from the temporary employment program.

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so it's official

rotund kindle
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Does this apply to just the wage or the title/level as well? I can see some new grad SWEs making level 2/3 wages so can they still get it?

hidden jewel
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Where is the table of wages

digital vector
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with this new rule I don't think any new grad will be selected

hidden jewel
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Where are the levels

digital vector
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it's on flc

candid cliff
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Still 50% increase?

static musk
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Has anyone tried converting F1-OPT to green card?

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Heard its possible for non oversubscribed countries

rotund kindle
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  • the option of filing as “computer programmer” instead of software developer, etc
molten gyro
digital vector
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but damn so it's all about the base now

rotund kindle
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Still doable! Companies will adapt to this stuff don’t lose hope 🙂

hidden jewel
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yep this is base wage though

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but also consider that we have 3 years on STEM opt to get promoted before needing H1Bs

molten gyro
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Could anyone explain how it works?

cunning umbra
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Easy if you get the required salary

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If you're in level 2,3,4 you are basically guaranteed one if you have done your master in US

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It's still the same

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Advanced degree exemption is there for 20k visas

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Do you want to me explain in detail how came to that conclusion through last year's data?

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Well atleast according to last year data

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There were 27k selected petitions for advanced degree exemption

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Out of which the level 3 and level 4 will be selected in the 65k cap

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And even if none of the 14k level 2 advanced degree petitions are picked in the 65k cap which is basically 50k after giving h1bs to 15k level 3 and 4 petitions

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They could be picked in the 20k cap after that and 6k out of the 10k L1 applicants will also get a visa

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Did you understand?@cunning umbra

molten gyro
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Is this change actually going thru? Haven’t seen anything on blind and they usually discuss immigration a lot

craggy mango
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there's a few blind threads on it

craggy mango
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it's been passed but I believe doesn't go into action for like 60 days

craggy mango
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it's possible biden delays or stops it though

cunning umbra
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There could be litigations or Biden could just stop it but it aligns with his immigration plans

molten gyro
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Could you explain how it works? Don’t understand it that much. 🥺

craggy mango
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it's based on wage levels, so location and role will determine your level

cunning umbra
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So people are classified to a level based on their base salary according to their location and role

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And there are 4 levels and the order of preference is in descending order

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So you could basically check the lca wage levels for your position in your city and see for yourself if you're eligible or not

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Yup

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It's way better than lottery for sure

molten gyro
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Oh cool thanks

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Which level would a faang new grad be approx?

cunning umbra
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Which was ridiculous to begin with but ig they didn't expect there would more people applying than there are visas

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Depends on the base and city

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If it's Seattle and your base is above 113k , then L2 and if it's above 134k, then L3 and for 155k it's L4

craggy mango
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FAANG would be level 2

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most companies aren't giving new grads high enough based to reach l3

cunning umbra
craggy mango
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google getting cheap then lol

cunning umbra
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I mean even if after the 3 years we don't get a h1b , we can move to a different country in that company and comeback on L1 visa which is valid for 5 year and keep on applying for h1b

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Yup if you aren't an indian born ofc

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Well that hasn't been passed yet but it is on Biden's immigration plan

molten gyro
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that rule is kinda whack

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Im not Indian so I’m biased lol

cunning umbra
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That would probably increase the wait time by 5-6 years for everyone if this rule also passes

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I'm an indian born lol

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It's highly likely coz all houses are controlled by democrats

molten gyro
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I don’t think democrats want that tho

cunning umbra
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Well almost all of em have that on their agenda and all of them voted for it in the house last year

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But let's see what happens

molten gyro
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But I think even if it passes it need years to ramp up so it wouldn’t affect us @cunning umbra

cunning umbra
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I don't really want the country cap to be gone but there are details in that, which would ease out things for people who are already on h1b

molten gyro
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I read 10 on blind but I’m not sure how true it is

cunning umbra
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If it passes this year it will be in law from 2023

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The country caps thing is transitional

craggy mango
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removing country caps is a bad move imo

cunning umbra
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So it's gonna take 10 years for 100% of the visas to not be country capped

craggy mango
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it'll just be like 90% indians getting gc then

cunning umbra
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Well it would clear the backlog that india and china are facing

molten gyro
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I understand the problem that Indians face, but that rule would oversaturate a market thats already saturated

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Everyone in my internship last summer was Indian

cunning umbra
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But with the new h1b wage allocation it won't be 90% but Indians will be hugely benefited by that

molten gyro
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Hopefully I’ll apply for GC by 2023 so I’m good

cunning umbra
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Well I just want the restrictions to ease out on h1b idc if I don't get a green card so I don't mind country cap not being removed. I just want to be sure that I won't lose my job if I go to India to visit my parents

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Travel restrictions are horrible for h1bs

molten gyro
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Yeah. I’m trying to go from F1 to GC

cunning umbra
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You need to do it in your 2 year stem extension tho

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I don't think they will give you a stem extension if they know you applied for a gc coz F1 is non immigrant visa

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And you also can't travel in those two years outside the country if you apply for gc

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Lol ofc

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You need to be employed and they might cancel your visa at the airport for absurd reasons but this seldom happen but still a risk

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So traveling is a risk

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And you also can't start a business on h1b

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Gc is basically a citizenship without voting rights

molten gyro
cunning umbra
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Let's calculate this ok, there is about 741k backlog for indians by April 2020

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There are 140k gc given per year for employment

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And it would also make it harder for WITCH companies to abuse the system

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The wage level allocation already makes it difficult for them to get h1b.

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I think the wait time would still be 15 years for indian and rest of the world will also have similar wait times

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Btw if you could, can you send me the the link so that I can read that report

cunning umbra
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Why is the backlog increasing?

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Well looking at this, it looks like it helps no one

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Not row or indians or Chinese

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The best for indians to have a gc is have kids and wait for em to be 21 years old when they can sponsor you for gc lol

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I knew I won't get a gc when I got here so I don't mind

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Lol

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What if you don't get married to a citizen lol

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I don't understand how the backlog is growing when amendment will be made to h1b

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So that Indian nationals won't clump up the h1bs

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Lol I'm against S386 if those are the outcomes

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well for me its alright i can go back to india or other countries but for people who had kids here, its very difficult to change their lives

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especially if their kids arent citizens and they are brought here as kids