international

[ocean hemlock]

yeah a friend of mine got the email as well

for grad, nope

[tidal nymph]

They called me

Just a few mins ago

💀

[ocean hemlock]

good news?

also wise are taking the mick with the air time 🤣

[near grove]

Getting ridiculous now lol

[ocean hemlock]

Yep aha

Should've just said they'll get back to us when they feel like it

[tidal nymph]

Invitation to assessment day

Next week

MS

[lost hedge]

Waitlisted for Amazon London. Scheduled interviews for Google London

[lost hedge]

Intern

Amazon London

I did interviews in late october. Just before the hiring freeze. Wouldn't expect anything right now, tbh

Around October 4th

[cosmic gazelle]

very interesting

thanks guys for the info!

[safe gate]

guys if you are in your final semester and are on reduced course load, can you intern full-time

[tidal nymph]

i dont think that's possible but depends on your university policy and if you are on visa or not

[steady yew]

no

maybe pre completion OPT

but idk if you wanna do that

[safe gate]

If I do pre-completion OPT, can I work 40 hours a week?

[steady yew]

Maybe idk

[cyan smelt]

upto your university

mine doesn't allow more than 20

you should go ask your DSO

[charred sleet]

Any New Grad openings for INTL students? For Zurich / Germany

[ocean hemlock]

are they still open???

i didnt think so

also another day no wise info o7

[ocean hemlock]

nevermind @near grove they got back to me

it was in my promotions folder not general thats why i didnt see it

[near grove]

😔

I didn't get it yet

When did they send it

[ocean hemlock]

sent it to me at 4:40pm today

check your spam/non-general folders in case

email looks like this

suggested dates they had was 5 dec to 9 dec so still time

[near grove]

Yeah don't have anything. I did my hirevue a few days later so ig I'll find out soon

How long is the interview?

[ocean hemlock]

1 hour with 2 engineers

[near grove]

Hm that is very short

Nice

[near grove]

Btw for people who are always asking about visa, I got the hirevue today (step 2)

Gonna see if I can get my app transferred to London tho. They only had postings in Reading when I applied and I don't rly wanna live there

[shut frigate]

bb started ranking candidates now, so they'll grade you and wait few weeks and assess you with all other interview scores

[glacial sluice]

where did u hear this from?

[steady yew]

source: trust me bro

[shut frigate]

also heard from a friend

[brittle oyster]

Hi, is there anyone from Dublin,Ireland ?

[ocean hemlock]

has anyone done wise final round b4?

[wintry agate]

I did it a few months ago for last cycle

[near grove]

Bruh bruh

Wise

😴

It's only 2 weeks past the latest date they said they'd respond to me :)

[ocean hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

jk hopefully u hear back soon

[near grove]

lol nah they are just slow as fuck

this guy @ocean hemlock didnt get a response for ages as well

we havent done the final yet

[ocean hemlock]

anyone heard back from jp yet?

[ocean hemlock]

hopefully

does anyone know what jp pay is

and is it just assessment centre when they back? or other stps in between

i think their base is like 50 or 55 no?

i know their bonus is way less than goldman

ah okay

[tidal nymph]

jpmc base is 55k, MS base is 70k, GS base is 55k (london)

[near grove]

Go city assessment centre

Yet another long journey to London for me

[cunning umbra]

From what I've heard from interns, it's 55k base, 4k bonus and 6k sign on

[tidal nymph]

4k is base on your performance at the end of 2 years

and 6k is basically for relocation

[cunning umbra]

Yeah, from what I understood

[tidal nymph]

haha i have an offer, that's what they told me xD

[wintry agate]

Wow, those bases are higher than some faang companies, no?

[tidal nymph]

MS seems to be higher than amazon from what i know

idk about the rest

jpmc is nearly the same as amazon, but amazon has higher bonus and stock than jpmc

[wintry agate]

I assume your offer is from MS? What's the process like?

[near grove]

Jpmc and gs are pretty close to amz base

Amz stock vesting schedule is a big scam tho

Other faangs pay more except apple I have no idea

[tidal nymph]

haha no my offer is from jpmc

im doing final stage MS next week

[tidal nymph]

apple is a black box

i know no one who interned there

[near grove]

I heard someone here say its 50k

I'd assume that's base

[tidal nymph]

internship return offer for FT

[ocean hemlock]

got offer from macquarie o7

jp base is same so dont think im gonna wait around for them

officially out the game bois, good luck to yall fr!!

[ocean hemlock]

auzzie bank/ib

[near grove]

congrats bro

gimme your wise final spot pls

[ocean hemlock]

well i withdrew

if i could i would bro aha

[ocean hemlock]

do you not like jp?

cos wise tc would be lower than jp right

[near grove]

wrong cat person lol

[ocean hemlock]

oh my bad aha

i was thinking id do it and tell u the qs

but thats p long aha

[near grove]

lol

i would love jp but they're taking years to reply

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[ocean hemlock]

We'll see if they actually get back to us after the 27th lol

[near grove]

I'm gonna say that and then get rejected after oa

My score was not stellar

😂

13/13 and 6/13

It may be enough

Yeah

Pretty sure it's oa > Assessment day for grad as well

They ask networks and security stuff btw

Hahah yeah my friend interned there this year

Banks ask networking a lot

See I'm the opposite hahah

Studied networking and security but never OS

I'm in 4th year

It's an elective at my uni for some fucking reason

Same with databases and networks

Doing it next sem

Yrah

That was our first programming class

Our lecturer for Haskell was the guy who made haskell

I got a D in that class so dw you'll make it lol

Nah

Uni of edinburgh

This guy lol

[cunning umbra]

Haskell is a beautiful language but painful to work with

[near grove]

I dont think I learned anything in that class

But the lecturer was cool

[tidal nymph]

he is the most passive aggressive lecturer tho

now he is just straight up aggressive to students

i never liked him ngl :))

[near grove]

I thought he was really funny lol

The other lecturer was really bad tho, the logic guy

[tidal nymph]

yeah the logic guy was worst

but i think phil was v annoying as well

some of his piazza response was so annoying

[near grove]

My flatmate messaged him on twitter for help with hw cause he hadn't replied to anything for ages and he just replied "fuck off" hahah

The logic guy

[tidal nymph]

lol

[barren flume]

That's Rust for me

Getting Rust to compile is a great feeling

C is fun, but you get tired of its downfalls

[near grove]

C was too much for my dumbass python brain

[barren flume]

It sure was hard for me going from python to C

Java is nice too, but I don't like that EVERYTHING has to be an object

[near grove]

At least that beats python when you have a big ass codebase and all the python code is just "def x():

[barren flume]

Opinion: I don't think large codebases should be written in python

It's too messy to scale

[near grove]

Oop and anything big in python is a nightmare lol

[barren flume]

Even JS got TypeScript

[near grove]

Personally I just do all my projects in mips

[ocean hemlock]

You guys dont use magnets and rock to program, pshhh

[fading egret]

yeah I worked in the Burgess Hill office but there were interns that were based in London

it's not that deep btw, most of the work was remote and there were ppl in my team that were based in Burgess Hill/Brighton and just lived in London

[fading egret]

Officially 2 days a week but in reality it's very team dependent and not really enforced. We had face to face meetings on wednesday so wednesday was kinda mandatory.

yeah

I chose London for my location 😎

Yeah, they have a temporary Wework in Waterloo but usually it is somewhere close to Buckingham Palace.

The Brighton one is quite nice as well, it's on top of a hill so it's got amazing views

Downside of London is no hot food, only cold

yeah, it was 30k pro rata

We were given 15 pounds every day to spend on hot/cold food, so basically free

yeah it's to encourage rto

niiice, did you get an offer?

ahh wish you the best of luck man

yeah, if I recall it was 1 easy and 1 medium

no DSA/network

was a bit nervous but I'm pretty sure I got both right

🤞

[fading egret]

yeah, it's pretty casual. I usually wore a casual shirt and shorts during summer.

[near grove]

Anyone uk done assessment day at Go City before?

[glad wharf]

is ur return offer for London or Glasgow?

[tidal nymph]

london based

[glad wharf]

mind sharing TC?

I think base 55 but no clue about bonus and stuff

ohh nvm lol, I shouldve scrolled up before asking xD

[ocean hemlock]

for interviews at least, unless its pure tech wear a shirt and jeans/trousers

once you get the job u can rock up in tee and shorts, not before 😂

cos u wanna seem like ur taking it seriously and ive had recruiters/interviews moan to me ab how some ppl interview in pyjamas and they dont like it

my opinion at least

[wintry agate]

Is the Goldman OA auto? If anyone's done it, how hard is it?

London, btw

[near grove]

dunno if its auto but it is REALLY easy

if this is for new grad their headcount is full btw

[wintry agate]

Nah, its for off cycle internship, I've read online about people getting hard dp questions though

so if it was easy for you, I guess its RNG

[near grove]

hm it was 2 super easy q's for me i did 100% in 20 mins and it has a 2 hour time limit lol

[wintry agate]

Ah I see, how long did it take for them to get back to you, if at all?

[near grove]

they rejected everyone without notice

i did the oa on october 22nd and ppl here found out about the rejects on november 7th, but they didnt notify us or anything

[ocean hemlock]

^ found out thru logging into application portal and seeing rejection, but no email comms

[wintry agate]

I see, thank you guys 🙂

[near grove]

Jpmc apps closing today

🥺

[near grove]

[ocean hemlock]

how long are people planning to stay at first job?

or everyone just going with the flow for the first x months

[near grove]

depends what it is

if i have to settle for sky or something then as short as possible

if its a good job then i guess just as long as im not bored or underpaid

[ocean hemlock]

oh do you have an offer from sky already?

[near grove]

No lol

But they are right at the bottom for me

They are calling me tomorrow

I think I did really well at the final but they took so long to call me that idk anymore

[ocean hemlock]

ah fairs

[strong peak]

Is there anybody having received the VO interview from Amazon in UK?

I have finished the coding and workstyles test on 7th November, but currently have not received any interview message.

[near grove]

Hiring is frozen

[craggy bridge]

Amazon is on hiring freeze

[strong peak]

Thanks, bro

[craggy bridge]

What’s the next round for Jpmc after completing the hackerank?

[near grove]

Assessment day

[craggy bridge]

Is that same as the final round?

[near grove]

Yeah

[strong peak]

I found a guy who passed the VO interview of Amazon on 8th November, he is currently in the waitlist.

[near grove]

There might actually be a hirevue first but not sure

[craggy bridge]

Ohh ok

[craggy bridge]

I heard they stopped using hirevue

Last year

[near grove]

Yeah

I thought that as well but ik someone who has one

Might still be doing it for intern

[craggy bridge]

Really, when did he receive invitation for the final round any idea?

[craggy bridge]

That might be it

[strong peak]

Have you applied for the Graduate Software Engineer role in Visa?

[near grove]

I have

[strong peak]

I plan to finish the SJT and VI test tonight

[strong peak]

8.24 Application
9.20 Received OA1
9.24 finish oa1, and received oa2
9.25 finish oa2
10.13 vo survey
10.26 vo confirm
11.1 vo 3*60
11.8 waitlist

Are there some companies in UK which put a great emphasis on the coding test for the new graduate roles?

I find that the coding tests of Optiver, Citadel, Visa, CapitalOne and Arctic Lake is really challenging.

[near grove]

I mean u need to pass it for every company

[strong peak]

Got it!

[near grove]

if you're looking for easy ones then blackrock, goldman sachs, amazon, wise (amz and goldman arent hiring tho)

[strong peak]

I am looking for the challenging one, just like Visa

I think the coding test in CodeSignal is really wonderful

[near grove]

hudson river trading

[strong peak]

Thanks, the preferred language is C++ and Python in HRT, I am not sure whether I can do the coding test in Java

[near grove]

nah, you can only use c++ or python

they auto reject everyone who doesnt use those

[strong peak]

Alright

I have done many coding challenges for many companies in UK. I find that the coding test of trading companies is the most challenging.

[near grove]

yeah

i failed citadel and hrt

[wintry agate]

They resume screen after the OA which is automatic

So unless you have good work exp. or from a t5 school its unlikely you'll proceed

But if you're just wanting to solve problems then yeah, you can apply and get the OA sent to you

[craggy bridge]

Wow, thanks. Goodluck to him, I hope I receive Vo invite soon too

[craggy bridge]

But one thing here is 3x60min, ain’t that too long or overstretched for an interview?. I was thinking they recently made it 2x60 or 45

[tidal cobalt]

is 1x30 still possible lol?

[strong peak]

I am not sure. That guy told me like this, he is currently the fourth year in Imperial College London.

[strong peak]

Good luck to all of us. We will get wonderful jobs soon or later!

[craggy bridge]

It’s been a while I see anyone get that, also I think it’s only specific to the US if you did extremely well in the OAs

[craggy bridge]

Ok, got it

[near grove]

it exists in uk too

i saw someone get it last year

[barren flume]

Do you know anything about Amazon Berlin?

Got the OA back in Sept, haven’t heard back since

And haven’t seen anyone hearing back as well

[near grove]

🙄

[ocean hemlock]

they didnt call?

[near grove]

nope

[ocean hemlock]

companies 🍵

[tidal cobalt]

What was your codility test score?

[near grove]

100%

[tidal cobalt]

do they have something after it, another OA?

[near grove]

Yeah, there one of those record yourself video interviews

And then a behavioural interview and then assessment day

[tidal cobalt]

crazy long process 😦

[near grove]

It's ridiculous yeah

And the assessment day is like 7 hours long as well lol

[tidal cobalt]

Do you know what is the pay in UK?

[near grove]

£38k

[ocean hemlock]

publicis has a very doable process, for grad and intern

grad process is long but not that technically hard

idk if they sponsor visas tho

[near grove]

Do u know how much they pay for ng?

In london

Cause I applied there

[ocean hemlock]

I think 40 or 45 base

[ocean hemlock]

How many rounds you done so far

I got to their final (make-a-thon thing) but didn't do cos I got my other offer

[tidal cobalt]

Do u guys know companies in Uk with 1-2 rounds of interviews 😅?

[ocean hemlock]

For grad?

[tidal cobalt]

yes

[ocean hemlock]

nope sorry

[near grove]

None

[strong peak]

Sry, I don't know

[strong peak]

anyone got message from Wise like this?

[near grove]

Yes I got that last week

[strong peak]

I have waited for the result of Wise's VI for about 25 days

It is pretty strange that a girl finished the VI of Wise on 22th November, and got ac on 25th November. But it's too long for us to wait

[ocean hemlock]

The suggested days for wise final was week of 5-9 dec

So maybe this week you guys will hear bacj

But I don't know if they will have like a second group of finals

[near grove]

that will be a busy week for me lol

[strong peak]

Bro, have you gotten many tech interviews?

[near grove]

i have an assessment day at a company called go city in london on monday

i have had lots of interviews but not for the last few weeks

failed them all

😎

[strong peak]

good luck, bro

I think I am not suitable for companies like Llyods, as they don't put much emphasis on the coding.

[near grove]

just got email for recruiter call lol

[near grove]

lloyds rejected me before even getting the oa or anything

[strong peak]

ridiculous

Visa, I think, is a really a good company for us. Hope we all pass it.

[wintry agate]

You sure? They send an automated OA I believe. It should be included in an email that thanks you for applying, check there.

[strong peak]

15 questions for workstyles

[near grove]

oh wait looks like the grad programme wasnt open yet when i applied so i was applying to industry hire

applied ages ago

same

[wintry agate]

You should apply, I think they reopened apps again/extended deadline

The Codility is real easy, literally basics of programming

[near grove]

applying rn

45k? not bad

[wintry agate]

and last question is a pseudo-LC but brute-forceable

[strong peak]

If you finish the SJT successfully, Visa will send you VI automatically.

[near grove]

that is way more than natwest and the like

[strong peak]

Visa have the requirement for dress code, you need to wear professionally while doing VI

that's why I did not finish VI for Visa yesterday

[near grove]

This gotta be the longest oa I've done

💀

[strong peak]

Llyods?

[near grove]

Yeah

[strong peak]

The coding of Llyods is pretty easy, my little sister could also solve the coding problem😂

[near grove]

oh ffs its video questions

i will do this later

lol

their london office looks crazy

[tidal nymph]

which one

there are so many

oh wait nvm

i remember seeing it

[strong peak]

I haven't done it

[near grove]

i have been saving my scripts to every hirevue question i have answered this season

at the point where i dont even need to prepare anymore lol

yeah

i have a big list of like 15 questions and my answer to them

so i just replace the company name and boom

yea haha

[strong peak]

Will Google, Meta, Apple and Microsoft in UK have positions for graduate software engineers this year?

[near grove]

Not until next year at least

[near grove]

holy guacamole!

macrohard

[ocean hemlock]

well done bro/sis

[glad wharf]

bro been on that Microsoft grind for a while, congrats

[glacial sluice]

return offer or external hire?

congrats btw

[near grove]

doing visa video interview rn

i blanked so hard when it asked what visa is

😭

thsi is awful

why am i so bad at talking today 😂

[ocean hemlock]

if a company wanted to know where your offer is from (after withdrawing from their final round) would u guys tell them?

im in 2 minds about saying, cos ik companies dont care really care about me

[near grove]

Hahah same lol

[strong peak]

Me toooo

[cosmic gazelle]

has anyone heard from Amazon since OA? (for intern)

[mystic crystal]

they're on a hiring freeze until at least next year. so you probs won't hear from them anytime soon

[strong peak]

Is this year the worst time for applying for software engineers?

[strong peak]

The ByteDance company hired about 10,000 graduates in China last year, but only 4,000 this year

[near grove]

lloyds

lol

[strong peak]

I don't think it should be a test for software engineers

ridiculous easy

[near grove]

one of the coding questions was to print the sum of 3 nunbers

this is amazing

[strong peak]

From Lloyds' coding test, I know that the company is not suitable for me

[near grove]

i would be scared to meet my coworkers if this is the coding test

[cosmic gazelle]

oh I see

[near grove]

anyone done oa for Improbable this year?

[strong peak]

When did you apply for Improbable?

[near grove]

yesterday lol

[strong peak]

I applied for the intern in Improbable on 10th October, but rejected

[near grove]

oof

i applied to intern last year

the oa was pretty hard, but i passed with like 55% but they filled headcount 1 week before my interview 😢

[strong peak]

The intern OA is about 4 leetcode challenges

I will apply for Improbable right now

[strong peak]

You have received OA from Improbable?

[near grove]

yeah

[strong peak]

Are there any other companies using CodeSignal as their OA? I know CapitalOne and Visa are like this.

[near grove]

hudson river trading is the only other one i know

after the digital interview? nah

[near grove]

Oof c1 reject

Thought I did well on the video interview

😔

[strong peak]

Nope, have waited for so much time, lol

Thank you so much, bro. I will apply it asap.

[strong peak]

Could you tell me what this company is?

[near grove]

capital one

[fading egret]

congrats lol

[cunning umbra]

Out of interest, what's the salary

[fading egret]

what was the tc they offered?

[fading egret]

this

lol London is about 50% higher

you can probably get transferred anyways

also good job

salary, I think (at least my tc)?

yeah he/she was right

also you can offset the travel costs to amex

just realised you were applying for internship lol.

it's the same then , sorry 😅

do it lol

[ocean hemlock]

where lol

[near grove]

just think of the recruiter's face in a year when you're applying to ng and have 3 internships ay the exact same time on your cv lol

[glad wharf]

MS, AmEx and ?

[near grove]

you got hrt?

jeez

[wintry agate]

Wow, congrats. Whats your background like in terms of work exp. I assume you have a faang/etc. since you got HRT?

[celest wigeon]

WHO PINGED ME

AT #international

IM NOT EVEN #international

I AM A GIGACHAD AMERICAN

HELL YEAHA MERICANUBMA 1

[glass crystal]

I pinged you @celest wigeon

What can u do about it

Oh shit

I thought ur were the real yakhuna

[celest wigeon]

yo

[glass crystal]

U didnt react to ur own message

U aint yakhuna

[celest wigeon]

stop

[livid valley]

anybody got a full time offer at london?

and relocating there

[ocean hemlock]

ft offer but not relocating

cos i live in london

[livid valley]

nice

do you mind if i ask what compensation is considered as good in london?

seems like only manng companies offer around 100k pounds annually

[ocean hemlock]

not all

[ocean hemlock]

i mean the objective and subjective answer is different

imo anything over 50k is enough to at least live in ldn

[near grove]

You can live comfortably on around 40k. Most small companies will offer 30-35k which you can live on but won't save much

[ocean hemlock]

cos with 50k u will at least have money left over after taxes and housing

with 40-45k u can live in ldn but idk how much u would save

[near grove]

Yeah, 30-35k you will probably be spending everything

[ocean hemlock]

like if your hosing is 1.5k a month, thats 18k gone. and a 40k salary post tax is like 30k or sth no

[near grove]

40k is like 2.5k per month after tax

Something like that

[ocean hemlock]

yeah so i was close enough

so if your on 40k and ur housing is 1.5k/month more than half of ur pay is gone from housing

[near grove]

Should defo not be spending 1.5k on rent if you're on 40k lol

[ocean hemlock]

cheap places are hard to find

finding a place point blank is hard lol

[near grove]

Just flat share like everyone else

You won't be spending 1.5k on a flat share unless ur going for crazy places lol

[livid valley]

hmmm i see seems like rent and transport are the most expensive things and from what i gathered typical day to day expenses are pretty much okay on a dollar to dollar value

i might be relocating to london next year and contemplating whether it is worth it after taking into account the tax and rent and what not

but now is just hard to find a job to begin with considering all the tech crunch

[near grove]

It's a fun city but if you care about savings then it's probably not a good idea unless you get a top tier job

[livid valley]

took a look on levels seems like MANNG and bloomberg etc offers 90-100k including bonus so thats like 60k after tax

only those top trading companies pay 150+ to 200k

tough

[near grove]

How many years of experience do u have

[livid valley]

none

[near grove]

If you're new grad you won't be getting 100k at faang or bb

[livid valley]

just a low frsh grad

HAHA

[near grove]

Amazon is about 65k or something, bloomberg is 75k

Meta is higher than Amazon but idk the exact number. Maybe Google could get you closer to 100k but I have never heard of someone getting over 100k

[livid valley]

damn

uk is tough

but thanks for sharing the numbers man

[near grove]

Np

[ocean hemlock]

bloom tc is 90k

[near grove]

Nah

[ocean hemlock]

can confirm as friend has new grad offer

[near grove]

Bruh whay

Competing offers?

[livid valley]

90k base?

[near grove]

No

[livid valley]

or 90k with bonus

[ocean hemlock]

not 90 base, 90 tc

[livid valley]

oh

[near grove]

Must be tc

Lol

[ocean hemlock]

palantir tc is 120

[livid valley]

lol

[ocean hemlock]

different friend

[near grove]

The base is like 70k for bb

[ocean hemlock]

for new grad

[near grove]

Yeah palantir is good

[livid valley]

i failed palantir at the round before hiring manager

LOL

[near grove]

Only one I know exactly is Amazon is 49k base and 30k stock over 4 years cause someone here got an offer

Bloomberg I have never ever heard of 90k, that is wild

Eh if you compare to the us then yeah I guess

Still probably the 3rd best country for swe's behind us and canada

Basically that

G zurich pays a lot but other than that there is pretty much nothing lol

Absolutely but then u gotta live in america 😵‍💫

Also I just got off a recruiter call and the woman didn't even tell me what company she was from until near the end hahah

I was half asleep when she called and somehow I'm now in the running for two c++ and go roles both of which I can't code in

[craggy bridge]

I am in a similar situation and It’s kinda funny coz tf can’t you check my profile or resume and see my strength ain’t on c++

And it’s even a well known game studio

[near grove]

Mine is a cyber defense company

[craggy bridge]

I got sent a take home assessment and I have absolutely no idea how to go about it, the recruiter be telling after this is final round💀

[near grove]

The person asked me for my salary expectations before telling me about the companies so I just winged it and said 50k

[wintry agate]

Was there any sign on/bonuses included?

[near grove]

Idk

There is probably relocation but I'm not sure

I am trying to find the message that said the offer but idk their name and I can't find it lol

[wintry agate]

Oh, no worries haha. The general numbers are good enough for me.

Seems like we get the short end of the stick in London when it comes to FAANG salaries, lol

despite having probably a similar COL to tech hubs in the US

[near grove]

Col is quite a lot lower in london compared to sf and nyc

In any case the salaries are still very good. It does piss me off when I see people here acting like we are paid nothing when 60-70k tc is 2x as much as most people's salaries will ever be in their lives

[craggy bridge]

I want to ask, do I need a visa to visit the UK if I am on a work visa in Dublin Ireland? Any idea

[craggy bridge]

The thing is everyone here has varying responsibilities that’s why the pay might be nothing compared to what they would expect

[thick tide]

Isn’t the UK collapsing though

[near grove]

I mean 70k is nearly top 5%

[near grove]

I have no idea tbh, I would assume you would have to check your citizenship's visa req for UK as normal

[near grove]

Not really, no

[near grove]

We have the common travel area but idk if that applies to all people in Ireland or just Irish citizens

[craggy bridge]

Ok thanks

So the base for Bb is 70k , ama try my luck for BB next year🥹

[near grove]

Yeah me too

[ocean hemlock]

so u have 4 offers rn?

[tidal nymph]

btw, MS assessment centre today was both for interns and grads

[craggy bridge]

For intern or new grad?

[craggy bridge]

Crack

What kinda things you put on your resume. I have applied to Microsoft 3 times in my life but never got response🥲

Really, that’s bullshit.

But Microsoft ain’t on hiring freeze are they?

Ohh that’s better then, but personally I can’t imagine the pain I would feel after preparing and expecting final and it got canceled🤨

Teach me your ways sensei🥹

Yeah, hopefully they hold truth to their words. Goodluck

One thing I hate since I started applying to Microsoft is they never sent rejection to me, I have to check my portal for that most time to see my status, I still have one application in transferred status for more than 6months😞

[near grove]

did microsoft ever open apps for ng swe in london

[near grove]

oh yeah sky finally got back to me today

they don't want me

this is awesome i am really having a great time in the job search aren't you guys too???

oh what is that noti? another reject? oh..

b b but it's just a numbers game right???

surely we can't get rejected from everywhere??

yeah i mean im sitting here complaining when im gonna be out earning almost my entire family 1 day out of uni

😂

[ocean hemlock]

L sky

keep grinding bois, seems tough but the light will appear soon enough

i relate with u all heavy, all it takes is one phone call and the worries melt away

[near grove]

😎

and it will come soon enough

[ocean hemlock]

yessirrr

[near grove]

yep it was crazy long

the feedback was "Extremely high technical ability. Very strong presentation skills. Seemed a little shy."

that was it

[tidal cobalt]

damn thats so unfair

[near grove]

yeah, i talked quite a lot as well, its not like i was silent

told me i would get my results within 7 days, but they took 17 days, and then gave me super positive feedback except for being shy.. i just dont really get it

mfs still havent reimbursed me for my travel either

[ocean hemlock]

bruh this is crazy

they said no hire cos sub optimum rizz wth 🤣

L sky fr

[near grove]

should have done a line before the assessment

maybe i could be the super upbeat person they want me to be

jokes aside i probably wouldnt have been happy working there, their campus is so far away from the city that my commute would be way too long and they pay peanuts

they better give me my fucking money back

cause i spent £200 for this

[strong peak]

same as me😭

[strong peak]

Bro, have you received information from Wise?

[near grove]

Nope

[ocean hemlock]

wise are just being weird icl

[near grove]

I'm ok with it, I really don't have enough time to prep for finals rn lol

[mystic crystal]

kind of true, they do use ATS's but not for the purpose for recruiters to view parsed data vs resume

e.g, i know amazon use an ATS to parse & check for duplicate applicants on different emails

[rancid vessel]

man has changed his mind since he wrote the first part of the book

[near grove]

I just did the OA, it's pretty tough

I would not be surprised if the 2nd question is lc-hard level

I just brute forced the fuck out of it and passed 6/10 lol

Then spent 30 min trying to optimise and got nowhere

[rancid vessel]

its all the same with these tech bloggers, just get as much attention as possible in order to sell their thing

[near grove]

why is publicis sapient asking me to write regex expressions

idk how to do these lol

[ocean hemlock]

yeah that part of the oa was annoying

just had to google bares on my phone

100% doable though

just google + stackoverflow

[near grove]

nah im failing this lol

i cannot get my regexes to work

no

45 mins and i have no working regex

literally copy pasted from stack overflow and it still doesnt work 💀 i dont get this

am i even doing this shit right

k i jst hardcoded it

this company sucks

2/4 test cases whatever

its been 2 hours i dont rmeember all the questions????

good grief

this one is doomed

[ocean hemlock]

rip

the oa was like hardest part

publicis process is long but p simply. after oa u had competency interview. then 1hr technical which was just design (not sys des). then some make-a-thon thing

i didnt do the make-a-thon cos had offer by then so withdrew

[near grove]

??

you're right! publicis sapient (a billion dollar company) is the only place i applied. absolutely nowhere else. i should apply to... f500? which uhhh definitely matters in tech guys yeah

[ocean hemlock]

Change probably to defo and u got it ✨

At the end of the day a job is a job. Just because you may be way more well off in terms of your job opps or pag don't forget that there are literally thousands of companies that offer decent chances

Always stay humble guys

[strong peak]

I was rejected by this company as I have graduated

That coding test is the hardest one in UK, I think

Optiver's coding test is also very awesome

It's not enough to pass the coding test of Optiver that you have solved hundreds of LeetCode problems. You also need to do some real big projects in your programming life

[near grove]

Yeah, optiver's one was pretty cool

Hard but more fun than leetcode

[hidden wind]

Haven't received response from the hirevue interview, you?

Also, are there any lists of companies hiring internationals?

[near grove]

london is so cool

this is such a great city

can companies please keep flying me down pretty please

[ocean hemlock]

who flew you down??

[near grove]

go city

[craggy bridge]

Ain’t you from London

[near grove]

no lol

from stirling and live in edinburgh

[craggy bridge]

Ohh ok

[ocean hemlock]

nicee, good luck with the interviews

[near grove]

thanks

[near grove]

Go city ac rn

😳

[thick tide]

[strong peak]

Neither did I

[hidden wind]

are there any chances an OA has wrong test cases?

[near grove]

Very unlikely

[hidden wind]

lmao chrome crashed mid OA and I had to switch to Firefox but all the code was in chrome's cache

[near grove]

Go city gave me merch at the ac today

Mfs think they getting free advertising

Not even got an offer yet

No chance I'm walking around with a branded hydro flask if I get rejected

[rancid vessel]

Its better than buying a flask tbh

[near grove]

it is definitely a nice flask

[ocean hemlock]

ahaha

fair point tho

[cunning umbra]

Hello everyone
I hope you are doing well
As a fullstack developer, I have 6 years experience in web development
Since my last contract was ended last month, I am actively looking for new full time/contract remote position
I am really looking forward to hearing from you
Thank you

[shut frigate]

maybe you just look very dehyrdrated

[near grove]

me wearing citadel merch to my tesco digital interview

[ocean hemlock]

nope

[near grove]

don't worry guys we will hear from the team soon

[junior bay]

When did you do oa? A recruiter I spoke to just mentioned applications are being reviewed and I should hear back in the coming weeks. Probs be ghosted tho

Yea I guess so, I passed all cases too. They are probably just waiting to see what the headcount looks like and then invite more people to interview

[ocean hemlock]

coming weeks is basically the same as saying nothing

[ocean hemlock]

phone interview as the very first stage?

after applying?

yeah its basically just a behavoural almost

just make sure u can talk about your experiences, u kno why marshall wace

phone interview is hit or miss, i never heard back after but a friend got to next round

[near grove]

wise

😂

again

[ocean hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/cap-cap-check-gif-24989004

[strong peak]

Me too😂

It's pretty strange, my friends got the ac invitation of Wise only 2 or 3 days after finishing the VI

[near grove]

currently praying that Improbable doesn't cancel my interview again

[cosmic gazelle]

when did you guys apply for this

[grand gazelle]

What is a rough estimate on the chances of getting an H-1B approved in any given year as an undergrad?

[near grove]

Something like 30% I think?

[thick tide]

No sueñes mi amor

[ocean hemlock]

nope

[mystic crystal]

i had the candidate questionnaire last week, but not heard back since then

[barren flume]

For an EMEA location?

I got one for Google research in Europe and one for North America

Did the OA for Paris, but haven’t got a questionnaire for that

[mystic crystal]

was just EMEA in general, but I did the OA for London a while back

[ocean hemlock]

any recent dubs from anyone

[near grove]

Yeah they are rejecting some waitlisters

[near grove]

Supposed to hear from go city by today but they are being silent

[ocean hemlock]

o7

[tidal nymph]

call/email them

[main canyon]

Anyone here did the chainalysis (London) final?

[blissful flicker]

Did anyone here apply for STEM OPT EAD and notice that USCIS has picked up the wrong address (older one from first EAD) in their receipt notice? :/

[craggy bridge]

Has anyone heard back from Jpmc after OA?

[vivid coral]

How much should Someone Budget (per month) For London as a summerintern? Housing + enjoying life.
Does £2000 Sound realistic? Would love to hear from experts what they can get For their Money ☺️

[near grove]

2k will be enough yeah

Rent will probably eat about half of that

[vivid coral]

Yeah I was planning to pay around 1k For rent and the rest for leisure, Subway, eating out, enjoying the City.

[vivid coral]

What Zone For 1k per month is realistic?

[near grove]

Flat share in zone 2 should be doable

Not sure what prices are like in zone 1, but I know people who flat share for under 1k in zone 2

[vivid coral]

Oh ok nice! Any advice in which places I should Look For (heard I should avoid Whitechapel)

[near grove]

Not really sure of areas to avoid tbh, I don't live in london, but you'll probably be fine anywhere as long as you're not looking for trouble at night

[lost hedge]

What's wrong with Whitechapel? I spent past summer there, and it was fine to me

[vivid coral]

A friend of mine Said i should avoid it 😅

[near grove]

people tend to have exaggerated views of dangerous areas tbh. people told me e&c is dodgy but i felt perfectly safe walking around at night there. just have your street brain switched on like in every big city and you'll be fine

[near grove]

it looks like they have started replying to interns? im seeing people announce offers for next summer on linkedin today

new grad seems silent so far

[craggy bridge]

Ok thanks

[near grove]

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mehran-sattarzadeh-bb7a63198_jpmorganchase-internship-activity-7007707079125663744-oj_a?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/karlee-sun_jpmorganchase-softwaredevelopment-ugcPost-7007788964371693568-buRO?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android

[rancid vessel]

fax

and im trying to hide these posts but connections like em so i still see them

so annoying

[near grove]

haskell was so bad

idk why my uni decided it would be the first language we learn

[prime crown]

When a form asks for country in which you primarily reside, and I am an international student, do I put USA or my home country?

[craggy bridge]

US

That’s where you’re currently at

[iron hazel]

https://startupsledger.gumroad.com/l/jtkvir

[foggy whale]

Any body got any nice offers in the middle east?

Like dubai or anywhere else

[barren flume]

Only one? Bruhhhhh, big L

[near grove]

it has now been 39 days since Wise told me we will get back to you within 7 days

they are really taking their time

speechless after my amazing responses

bit too late for that mate they rejected me after oa

jane street cv screen, citadel and hrt oa, optiver 1st round interview

just waiting for two sigma's reject now and my 6 figure dream is out the window

who needs two sigma when we have wise

or we dont have wise

that will be my cope

yeah im not earning 120k but at least i get free pizza once a week

thats true

i think wise is actually the 2nd highest paying job that im in the process for, behind improbable

not counting amazon becausethose mfs are still in the freezer

amazon?

i applied like 2 months ago and finished the oas a month ago

oh yea i always forget ur intern

i applied ot new grad a few days after they opened

we're gonna be 1 week from starting our jobs next year and suddenly get an email scheduling our amz final

[near grove]

you underestimate me

i will perform so hard that my seniors get pipped instead

[near grove]

bro

[rancid vessel]

had a final interview on tuesday, hoping i get the job

[hidden wind]

this must be a joke at this point

[near grove]

[near grove]

for the others waiting for visa ^

they still ignoring my emails about transferring office tho

💀

Yeah

It wasn't an option when i applied

Reading

[rancid vessel]

unicorn in barcelona, i'm sure you havent heard about it tbh, but its called travelperk

i think they have some uk offices too

[hidden wind]

Englishmen, What would be a good salary in London?

[near grove]

For a new grad around 45k is where I'd say "good" (ie above average)

30-40k is average

[hidden wind]

I thought London was more expensive

Rent is almost half of that right?

[near grove]

if you're on 45k it'll be about a third

[hidden wind]

Would it be located like a hour away from everything? Or would be fairly decent location?

[near grove]

nah you can get a room in zone 2 for under 1k

london has good public transport

[hidden wind]

Okayy

Thxx 🙏

One more thing, that salary would also allow for some eating out, right?

[near grove]

Yeah

personally i do that on 30k and just refuse to pay rent. who's gonna stop me

linkedin is wild

[hidden wind]

Who much would be enough for that?

£?

[near grove]

in his dreams yeah

[hidden wind]

Congrats bro

Oh

U trolling

?

[near grove]

bro is a microsoft apm intern

his dad is also hrt ceo

i love hormone replacement therapy

do you guys want to hear a joke

what did jane street say when they saw a camel

oh, camel

[hidden wind]

What

[near grove]

ocaml

hahah

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

god they should have hired me just from that

[hidden wind]

[rancid vessel]

bro

facts

i dread seeing workday

[near grove]

i got like 50 workday accounts at this point

[rancid vessel]

thats not on workday tbf

[near grove]

i just put £0

[rancid vessel]

i put a -

[rancid vessel]

looking for unpaid work

[near grove]

don't need pay when i have so much passion for working 9-5

[rancid vessel]

this is how you discover the hunger, the motivation and the desire

[near grove]

my uni job board advertises internships like that lol

you pay them like 10k and they give you an "international internship"

[near grove]

come here 😉 x

[craggy bridge]

I have a question, at what level do y’all think someone will stop encountering leetcode for job interviews, Senior level? Or mid level?

[near grove]

i heard it never stops (for ic's)

i guess maybe architects

or like principal level

[craggy bridge]

😔

So we’re never gon escape this leetcode hell

I just hate it

[near grove]

i don't mind it tbh

it is way better than the alternative

i mean look at things like investment banking, if you don't go to a top school ur fucked for jobs

[craggy bridge]

By the way, has anyone heard back from Bloomberg London recently? I am curious… they sent mail that they are still reviewing my application after 2months lol

[near grove]

My friend got rejected today

Had her phone interview yesterday

[craggy bridge]

I guess they are sorting natives first before international candidates

[near grove]

She is international but idk if she needs sponsorship. might have leave to remain from brexit or whatever

[craggy bridge]

Ohh I get.

Hopefully I get an interview just for practice at least for next year when I am fully prepared

[cyan smelt]

so if you're in the US and on F1 OPT, and the employer asks you "will you now or in the future require sponsorship?" can you say "no'" because you have a 3-year work permit?

[cyan smelt]

i said no and i have a couple of interviews coming up

looks like i'll cancel both of them lol

i will be going to grad school in a few years anyway so this sponsorship thing is sorta useless

[vivid coral]

After or pre tax?

[rancid vessel]

pre

depends where you shop

[vivid coral]

I always thought England has the closest pay to US For all the Emea 🥲

Now I am really happy with my salary

dont want to share details but apparently really good 😅 always compared with US salaries and though I didnt get much

But isn’t London as expensive as New York?

hahah renting in london still feels really bad 😦

[cosmic gazelle]

anyone moved on from google OA? just got an rejection email for internship...

just got the rejection after OA :/

same...

[mystic crystal]

i got the candidate questionnaire a few weeks back, but not got a response since submitted

but tbh think I probably won't get an interview. i see most people get an interview invite the next day

[rancid vessel]

no one comes even close to us salaries, but taxation is also much easier in europe/uk

when you use tax calculators its pretty accurate for eu/uk(the net salary)

while in the states you do your taxes at the end of the year afaik, and its a complete shitshow

state tax + income tax + whatever other taxes

so its really hard to figure out the net salary i think

even the goods are stated without tax in the states, while again, all prices are shown all tax included in eu/uk

[vivid coral]

I mean UK tax becomes also quite complicated when you earn more than 150k 🥲 like I read the tax free allowance will Go to 0 the more you earn

Tbh Not 100% familiar with uk tax Need to spend more time reading into it and How i Can “optimise” 😂

[near grove]

Pre tax

40k after tax is only really found at faang+ and some finance places like jpm, ms etc

[vivid coral]

Ms?

Morgan Stanley I assume?

I thought about that but I don’t understand how the % contribution by employer works 😂

Like when I don’t contribute I don’t get a Pension? And as an international How do i Open a Pension in the uk? 😂

There should be an easy “all you need to know” Book

Will my employer do this for me? And if not when do I have to do this? 😂

[near grove]

Yes

Hm just googled it and it says 98k average for an swe

I guess maybe doesn't include bonus and whatever

[vivid coral]

Honestly don’t know how much I really earn 😅 it’s a Bit overwhelming i have to admit

I actually went for them Not because of pay but because it sounded like interesting work

🤐🤫

Don’t want to make too much public 😂

[near grove]

Intern

Mf posted all this on a public discord and then says he doesn't want ot reveal

[vivid coral]

Hahaha totally forgot that you can search 😂😂😂

[near grove]

😏

[vivid coral]

Hahahah Note to myself: think before you post 😂😂😂

[near grove]

Bro how the fuck did I pass

My video explanation of my solutions was "uhh its been 2 hours so I don't remember what question 1 was sorry. But question 2 I just don't know how to do regex"

[near grove]

any takers?

maybe boyfriend experience?

[split wren]

Can we do two full-time jobs simultaneously under OPT?

[mellow sail]

anyone thinking about doing unpaid jobs so OPT doesnt expire?

[near grove]

from what i've seen "competitive" usually just means "average"

this company is definitely an outlier

never seen a company say competitive salary and then ACTUALLY TELL US the salary

it's always just a way to avoid saying numbers

yeah thats what i mean

usually when i see "competitive" and then google the company its around 35-40k

26k is like

good in some rural town

the lowest i've ever seen on linkedin was 19k. based in hull

hull definitely aint london but like... i cant imagine living decently on 19k

honestly for intern i dont think salary matters that much

[fading egret]

has anyone heard back from blackrock or morgan stanley? Applied in august and did the coding test but got no response

[near grove]

london? no one's heard from blackrock, as far as i know

[fading egret]

yeah both in London

shame :(

[near grove]

my friend went through the entire morgan stanley process

but i personally havent received a response

[fading egret]

yeah I applied quite late for morgan stanley so not I'm not too surprised

kinda annoys me blackrock not responding. Why even have the listing if you are going to ghost everyone

[near grove]

same, i applied late oct

not sure when my friend applied but it was well before that

i feel like all the finance places are really slow tbh

i havent got a response from any of them other than automated tests, except goldman sachs

[fading egret]

this tbh

I didn't even get an email from goldman, had to find out for myself by going into the portal

[near grove]

same

i found out from this disc

[fading egret]

same here lmao

I like using this Discord to see what companies ppl are applying to and which ones stopped hiring

[near grove]

when'd you do it?

damn bruh

yeah.. my friend did the phone and got assessment cenrtre not that long after. too drunk to figure out the dates but it wasnt a month. this was for new grad tho

feel like you're porbbaly good if it's been a month and still no reject

Ok looks like their new grad ac was on 1st december, that's the earliest I've seen as well

Mfs still ignoring me

[near grove]

Probably did some after that as well

[tidal nymph]

I applied to ms on the 25th sept, heard back on the 25th oct to schedule phone interview then did final on 1st dec

they said that was the last AC they were holding for the rest of the year (when i got the call for feedback after AC)

[frail nymph]

I got the apm offer, any product interns for 2023? Looking to connect

[foggy whale]

Any remote job offers?

[frail nymph]

32k

[near grove]

anyone done bending spoons oa?

i heard its like reading comprehension??

[rancid vessel]

fuck

the start-up I wanted to work at has a hiring freeze

unlucky

[craggy bridge]

It’s stupid and time wasting

I love the Company though

But their recruitment process is nah for me

[craggy bridge]

It’s like a classical GRE kinda test or something. Like logical reasoning etc

Who has gotten their jpmc application status changed to Under Review on their portal?

New grad

You’re right I guess I had mistaken it.

[near grove]

Yeah I did it last night

Not a fan

[charred sleet]

whats apm

[near grove]

associate product manager

[craggy bridge]

As a SWE can I apply to product management positions? 🌚

[ocean hemlock]

what role is this for?

[ocean hemlock]

£3.50.. deal

[near grove]

Saw a new grad get an offer at jpmc on linkedin today

They put #hacking or something like that in their post so I do think all the offers we've seen are probably from the hackathon

Feel like that means they will know their hc for external hire and can now start moving forward soon

[slow trail]

has anyone managed to move an internship from summer to off-season and make it part-time? I want to move figma

i'd gladly do it full time but CPT doesn't allow us to do this

[livid valley]

Easiest way to get into jpmc is via their hackerthon

they literally pull ppl aside during hackerthon to interview them

and u dont need to be in the top team

[near grove]

Seems very late to be getting offers tho. It was almost 2 months ago

If you get invited to the hackathon they use it as your final round

And get rejected or accepted based on ur performance

You need to do oa to get invited

There's one in london as well

Only like 70%

[near grove]

Nope

[ocean hemlock]

nah

[mystic crystal]

i have an initial phone with them in a few weeks

intern

ml role. ive applied for a few swe roles as well but not heard back on them

[craggy bridge]

How polite can Bloomberg be, sending this to me for the third time for 2months now🫠

[near grove]

Lol

[ocean hemlock]

sorry bro, thats just a frequency 3 weeks if !rejected send email

[craggy bridge]

The thing is I don’t know who to contact Or send mail to

This mail seems to be non reply though

[ocean hemlock]

yeah getting on the browser was super easy

[frail nymph]

I agree! I did my placement there and was literally not qualified

[harsh junco]

Is it just me or finding internship as F-1 student is almost impossible?

I will soon update my resume and try again but I feel like I get auto rejected just bcs of my visa status

[glass crystal]

Honestly, no. Visa is not always the reason for rejection. Post resume

[near grove]

https://tenor.com/view/luluwpp-gif-25648350

so many "we are closed until january" emails

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[foggy gull]

Hello, everyone! where do you guys find an internship postings? I am getting really frustrated. Are there any discord, telegram, reddit channels for it?

[floral marlin]

linkedin, indeed, glassdoor, pitt - https://github.com/pittcsc/Summer2023-Internships

[livid valley]

you might not see much because internship hiring for 2023 have been completed by most bigger tech companies i think

[near grove]

Bruh I just saw someone in the process channel who did Wise hirevue later than me get an offer

💀

I have been waiting 52 days

[ocean hemlock]

was it for same office

and tbh maybe wise are just putting ppl they dont want to interview on waitlist

[near grove]

Yeah it was

[ocean hemlock]

then this prob

[foggy whale]

How much of International experience is counted when applying to a job abroad

Do they care? Do you start from scratch? Like example I have 1 year android dev experience and then I move abroad and start looking for jobs. Will I be a junior?

[livid valley]

You don't start from scratch, but 1 year of exp is definitely still a junior

If you are team lead level you will jump to become at least team lead level as well

[prisma spoke]

!problems veritas

[tall wave]

!problems can only be used in #leetcode-bot

[near grove]

@marsh oasis I saw you applied to polyai, did u get the oa rn?

It's a weird way of doing an oa, just a pdf lol

Lol

It's just 1 question at least

Yeah

I applied for intern too

They don't have ng

Nah I havent

Should probably do that

Yeah I keep seeing them on my linkedin

gonna throw this take home into chatgpt when I get home and see where that gets me

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