2021_grads

[kind gyro]

damn thats good info

thank you)

[clear zenith]

crazy, not surprised that new grads leave a position within one year

[peak dirge]

Accenture was paying him $87,000 and all he was doing was Salesforce admin stuff which he said was pretty easy but he wasn’t happy with.

[north reef]

Can you get experience right after you graduate then apply for new grad the next year lol

[kind gyro]

i think thats whats implied by the comment yea ^

but you gotta apply like 2 months into ur job basically cause new grads open up september ish

if not august

[peak dirge]

If you graduate in 2021 and if you sign an offer with a small company to work for them during the summer, you can 100% apply to FAANG or whatever company new grad positions in the fall (since you are eligible for new grad positions one year past graduation). I would HIGHLY recommend doing this if you want to work for those companies. In the summer, just practice your LeetCode skills for when recruiting season begins in the fall.

[kind gyro]

or work for them right up until you gotta leave to other new grad job 👀

[peak dirge]

For real just chase the check and then dip with you get a better offer

What I found helpful is if you go to a smaller school, utilize referrals and reaching out to recruiters on LinkedIn

[tall wadi]

100% True. This practice helped me to get in FAANG

In the September(before graduation), list out all big tech companies and start applying to new grad position when it’s open, then wait until December/January to get update from them

[worthy spear]

^ I'm doing this

[kind gyro]

do all big companies only take referrals after a candidate submits an application or are there cases where an employee submits a referral and that way the candidate can apply through like an email or something

[heady kindle]

Have any Fall 2021 grads applied and received offers for 2021 roles? I am deciding if I want to graduate early or not, thanks!

[stark otter]

keep grinding

[main verge]

[limpid steppe]

[tranquil pebble]

International student here, so considering visa limitations, any staffing companies anybody knows of that aren't shady? I mean, a couple that I've spoken to... one asked me for 10k for "training" and the other said I'll have to pay them 12k if I refuse to accept a project. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[noble sierra]

Does this valid for new grads too or only interns??

[peak dirge]

This was the first year they opened it for new grads, so it is now new grads and interns

[noble sierra]

Is it still open ??

To apply

[noble sierra]

I cannot find the application

[noble sierra]

Also are you international student and got accepted into this program

[woven quartz]

the page says it only accepts students from U.S. unis but some fellows are from waterloo university which is in canada 🤔

[noble sierra]

I mean international students in US universities and not citizens

[dreamy crest]

When do job applications for Fall grads open up?

usually

[peak dirge]

The application is closed and no I am not international. It closed in November

[noble sierra]

DMed you

[wanton hound]

@zinc dawn Sounds like DP

I dont know about the alphabetically greater part though

[zinc dawn]

See in example 2 to make output alphabetically greater than input "d" is used at 2nd index

[clear zenith]

you should have a map of some sort that assigns a value to the alphabet to know that the output is alphabetically greater than the input

on example 2 "abcbc" is less than "abcba", so you another solutions needs to be devised

[clear zenith]

damn thats interesting

[elder dragon]

I offer this early morning prayer for lc easy’s, même final rounds, and immense stock options

[zinc dawn]

Will try this. Thanks!

[ornate charm]

[sterile stratus]

Hi

Is anyone interviewing for next spring

[worthy spear]

[proven ingot]

[knotty basin]

[stone monolith]

way too early for that mate

[slim holly]

[waxen sundial]

when does Stripe new grad open?

[worthy cedar]

[knotty basin]

anyone interviewed at snap?

[supple creek]

prayer for getting lc questions I've done perfectly

[knotty basin]

[tame raven]

[cerulean mist]

[worthy spear]

[peak dirge]

Stripe is done recruiting for the season. You can try again in the fall.

[waxen sundial]

@peak dirge yeah i meant what time would they open around next year

this fall new grad opens up again? okay

[undone abyss]

[plucky fog]

is google usually pretty selective with who they send OAs to?

[stark otter]

prolly not if i got one

[violet willow]

[eternal jolt]

Waiting on my results after my final round with Apple yesterday

[granite flax]

everyone wants a bite of the apple but sometimes u gotta settle for the banana

(amazon employees triggered)

[eternal jolt]

das a bar

[granite flax]

(idk why i said this, just came to me)

[eternal jolt]

cus it was a bar

[placid marlin]

which role/team?

[elder dragon]

compare ord(output) and ord(input)

[stable raptor]

This problem . Right ?

[frosty forum]

@cerulean pivot posting OAs no no right?

[zinc dawn]

Ya

So how to ensure that

[frosty forum]

👍

[zinc dawn]

👍👍

[woven quartz]

👍 👍 👍

[woven scroll]

👍 👍 👍 👍

[worthy cedar]

👍 👍 👍 👍 👍

[full shore]

what did it say i missed it 😦

[cursive loom]

me too

[arctic drift]

bitch he's mine

: (

I'm watching you jordan

[full shore]

uh oh mods are here lets dip

[arctic drift]

mods are awake scram fast

[daring bough]

@smoky hornet @manic urchin do not use this server to ask questions/guidance on OAs

[cursive loom]

SCRAM

[daring bough]

you will be banned the next time you do this

[manic urchin]

I didn't ask tho so no warning for me?

[daring bough]

pls do not aid your peers on online assessments as well

to keep the process fair for everyone

[manic urchin]

Yeah sorry seems fair

[daring bough]

@zinc dawn do not post OA questions you will be banned the next time

@stable raptor pls do not assist your peers for OAs to keep the process fair for everyone

[slim holly]

twitter in review for over 2 weeks

[timber pike]

Is Facebook intern pipeline different than NG? I got rejected from internship last month and I’m wondering I I can apply to NG this fall

[sick hazel]

they rejected me so it might be a good sign for you

[nocturne minnow]

how much sys design is expected for new grad interviews?

and should I cover databases extensively as well?

[dense fractal]

Hi could someone help me with advice?

regarding negotiating and leaving my current job?

[nocturne minnow]

thanks all!

most companies now actually make you explain your solution in the OA e.g. Intuit, Atlassian

[peak dirge]

Pinterest New Grad OA could literally be found on LeetCode + there’s a website with all the Karat Interview coding questions and answers it’s crazy out here

[azure gull]

Gotta do what you gotta do to get hired 🤷

[rough atlas]

gotta get my daily prayers in

[timber pike]

[clear zenith]

[stark otter]

[unreal dock]

I think they reason why people cheat on OAs is you either know the trick or you don't. The timer doesn't give you enough time to think of a suboptimal solution that passes some test cases - you either know how to implement a perfect solution or you don't. And it's really frustrating and that's probably why if you're desperate you might open a new tab and cheat

[night gate]

If you don't cheat Amazon won't call you for the 30 minute meme round

[unreal dock]

Yeah that's the thing :/

Fucking hurts

If you don't know the trick you're basically stuck

[knotty basin]

yeah bc no interviewer to offer a hint

[unreal dock]

For example the XOR trick for finding duplicates

[knotty basin]

kind of dumb

[unreal dock]

That shit hella amazing but if you don't know it it's going to be really hard coming up with a one pass soln

@worthy spear ya agree tho?

Tech interviews broken

And the sad part is idk how to fix it

[knotty basin]

the problem w that kinda shit is it just means the person who can grind the most leetcode and memorize the most problems wins

which is dumb

[unreal dock]

And tbh the current system is very fair for those who game the system (aka us)

[knotty basin]

and also eliminates a lot of candidates who dont have time to do that (i.e. are working to pay bills during school)

[knotty basin]

yeah dunno me either but it is a really bad system lmao

[unreal dock]

I hope I don't have to keep up with this bullshit in my career

I hope to god I only do LC bs at most till I become senior eng and then it's more of your typical interview

[arctic drift]

this is wrong

it's not important for /most/

but some companies ask sys des

in ng

[grave wagon]

I have a problem
I just got an offer from another company I'm interviewing with but in the downtime between my interviews and the offer (about 2 weeks) I started an amazon interview process
now the company is asking for a decision by friday and I know I won't get done with amazon stuff by then
The recruiter I'm talking to knows all this and said we can probably accelerate the interview process to 2 weeks but like
fuck dude
how do I ask for 2+ more weeks to decide from a company that already offered me something

[arctic drift]

Iirc nuro asks sys des

for ng

as an ex

[grave wagon]

@ me if you have a solution to my hell

[arctic drift]

renege

[azure gull]

Why are people afraid to renege

[arctic drift]

^

[azure gull]

I’ll renege the shit out of my offer if I get a better one

[grave wagon]

ok but like how do you do that for 2 weeks lmao

[arctic drift]

most /bigger/ companies won't even care if you renege

wait

did you ask

if you could extend the time

for your offer

at least

[grave wagon]

sent an email today, I'll know by tomorrow

I'm just real stressed

[arctic drift]

and worst case you just say yes

and then be like actually no ty if you get the other offer

most companies iirc can't contractually keep you (except for like Witch)

esp if the offer is for california

where you're at-will

https://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/at-will-employment-overview.aspx

[grave wagon]

I mean I'd be at will here too with the offer I have now

[arctic drift]

most are at-will apparently

yeah so

it's ok to renege

[grave wagon]

do I tell them that I'm doing another interview that's gonna take another week or two?

[arctic drift]

you tell them as much as you want to tell them

though preferably don't be an ass lol

[grave wagon]

lmao yeah

it's for a smaller company around Boston so idk how much leverage I have here

[west heart]

did anyone else just get an email about a snap interview

[slim inlet]

if you get a problem in an interview that youve practiced before should u tell your interviewer or what happens then

[jagged walrus]

act as if you saw for the first time

[slim inlet]

but is that... bad😰

[knotty basin]

maybe but honestly do what ya gotta do to get the job lol

[west heart]

i think you should do it i mean it shows you have the right knowledge for what they're looking for

[knotty basin]

that's also true

[azure gull]

Imagine you tell them you’ve seen the question before then they ask a different one that you can’t solve, now you just missed out on getting the job

[knotty basin]

maybe you could pose it as i've seen a similar problem that was a variant of this pattern before? i honestly dunno

[knotty basin]

yeah the thought of this happenin terrifies me LOL

[azure gull]

Moral of the story, being a Good Samaritan in situations like that gets you nowhere

[knotty basin]

if you had seen it before then you probably already have an idea of what the brute force solution looks like and then can iterate on it as if you had never seen it before

[elder dragon]

@slim inlet ace that shit in 5 min and pretend you’re the prodigal son. negotiate up to $500k tc and renege for Amazon. That is the way

[knotty basin]

what could go wrong

[elder dragon]

seriously, if you’ve ground enough leetcode to get to the point where you have a solution to the question memorized, you deserve the easy pass. you’ve met the criteria of the system and filtered through. no use is making it harder for yourself...

[elder dragon]

@knotty basin absolutely nothing

[fleet turret]

is grad school worth it for CS?

[tall nebula]

masters is also useful for international students who did their bachelors abroad i think

not an expert on this but i think it helps to get sponsorship

[merry tiger]

also a good interviewer won't rip questions directly off leetcode. i've had some very similar questions though and i think that's fair game for "i've never seen it before"

[real walrus]

Check out this post! "Do I pretend I’ve never seen the Leetcode question before? (Tech Industry)"
https://us.teamblind.com/s/QQSScmbp

[sturdy mulch]

I had that happen, the interviewer asked “have you seen this problem before” and I said something along the lines of “I’ve seen one like this but I’m not sure if they are solved the same way.” The interviewer said that’s fine and just let me solve it. 😎

[stone monolith]

I always lie and pretend to struggle for 30 seconds and then solve it in 10 🤝

Like I’ve leetcoded a lot at this point

There’s not many problems that I haven’t seen, or approaches

No point on self-sabotaging my own interview by saying something like “oh yeah I’ve seen it, next question”
interviewer: LC hard

[iron gate]

yeah then when you see the LC hard you say "oh this one again? sigh, i've seen this one too"

rinse and repeat until they run out of questions and give you 2sum

[stark otter]

say you have seen this question before when you cant solve it so they change the question for a one you have actually seen before

[unreal shale]

[worthy spear]

[mighty plume]

[iron gate]

spends 30 minutes trying to solve problem without making any progress
"Wait, I've seen this problem before! Can I get a new one please?"

[unreal dock]

@iron gate did you renege the big G for a chipotle burrito or did you renege to work at chipotle (tech or otherwise)

[iron gate]

i reneged so i could work at chipotle and get free guac

there's passion in making burritos

no passion in big tech

[elder maple]

Understandable

[fallen burrow]

international student here. going to graduate this may. no job offers yet. gave 4 interviews and all reject. not getting any OA/interview calls. applying on company website, trying linkedin jobs and messaging&commenting on posts. nothing works so far. what to do? really tired of this shit. im really worried 😦 what should i do? grind leetcode? whats the use of leetcode if im not gettign any oa/interview in the first place?

[zinc bramble]

if youre getting interviews then it seems like you just need to do mocks/more interview prep

[unreal dock]

honestly it's a numbers game - if you have internship exp, leverage those contacts your made then. If you don't - do some side projects that can get you through a resume screen at almost every company you apply, and then after that it's basically LC grinding and interview maxing. There's a big load of luck in getting OA's much less interviews and offers so don't let it get to you.

imo LinkedIn is trash in the sense that commenting on posts doesn't give anything. Messaging I've had like 1-2% reply rates so I don't ever do that

[unreal dock]

free guac >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any amount of TC fax

[stone monolith]

forsure 100%

[unreal dock]

@iron gate would you work for Club Penguin? I 100000000000000000% would.

[fallen burrow]

thanks for the reply dude. if not linkedin, where can i apply that has higer chances of response?

[iron gate]

no, probably would get too cold and the conversion of club penguin coins to USD isn't that great

[unreal dock]

i mean LI is good for applying to job postings but not good for anything else

also not sure if you're Int'l applying to US based companies, but your immigration status might be the biggest roadblock I think

[fallen burrow]

yes im international

[unreal dock]

yeah if you're Int'l applying to non-Int'l jobs, it's a lot harder 😦 sorry dude but at this point it's a numbers game

[unreal dock]

COL and QOL in Club Penguin Island >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere else

free housing, tons of events and parties

free swag each month

i'd sell my soul to work for EPF/PSA

[iron gate]

i wouldn't mind making pizzas for a while

[unreal dock]

more of a coffee shop kinda guy but I agree

[woven quartz]

Some places like ebay do automatic OA so u can try that

[grave wagon]

it's all good lads, I got my offer extended so I can finish interviews

[knotty basin]

tfw you get a problem you know you’ve solved before but you completely blank

[slim lake]

does anyone know what happened to the OCI class of cloud engineers thing?

Never heard back

[rough atlas]

time for my daily prayer

[unreal dock]

my during my midterm today and also during a lot of OA's fuck me

[worthy spear]

[proven ingot]

[knotty basin]

literally the worst feeling in the entire world lmao

[mighty plume]

just had my qualcomm phone interview, got the LC merge intervals question

[stone monolith]

Not bad

[mighty plume]

The interviewer asked me to write the brute force version

After I wrote the nlogn one

And it was on Google docs

@slim lake was yours on google docs too

[slim lake]

yep. yeah I got a decently medium LC question too. And I also gave a better solution that he was asking for lol

[ornate charm]

Why would he want u to do brute force after LOL

[slim lake]

Hopefully we both get the onsite call @mighty plume

he told me 7-10 days for the HR to get back

[mighty plume]

I feel like I got unlucky, the lady barely says anything lol, she was just like “write the brute force one”

After I literally wrote the optimal one pass version

[slim lake]

did you check in with her before starting to code? lol

[mighty plume]

She said it afterwards

[unreal dock]

What do you do if you can only make an optimal solution

[mighty plume]

Like she says write it with out sorting this time

[mighty plume]

Ask for clarification and hints

Yeah idk she just listened to me talk, I thought she disconnected at times. Never had an interviewer like that lmao

[unreal dock]

Like I maybe I'm weird but once I know the optimal solution

I can't do suboptimal

[mighty plume]

I mean I did complete the coding problem but yeah idk

[unreal dock]

Like for example the XOR trick for finding duplicates

I can't go back to suboptimal

[mighty plume]

Yeah the brute force for the merge interval is like 30 lines

While the optimal code is 8 lines

[slim lake]

tbf doing it without sorting isn't necessarily brute force if im not wrong. It's a different question

[mighty plume]

True it can be interpreted that way, no sorting causes a lot of repeated checks, which imo is suboptimal

[slim lake]

yes but you might be getting the data in a stream where sorting is not an option

then you'd need to use some sort of data structure like a heap or queue

yeah without sorting is def harder

I realize I basically got this same question without sorting for bloomberg and fucked it up. You need to find the connected components of the graph

[stone monolith]

lmao she probably was googling it as she was asking you the question

[clear zenith]

lmfaooo

winging it on both sides

[zinc dawn]

Anyone got call from Verkada or Everlaw for SE position? How's whole the interview process?

For that should I focus more on Leetcode or on any specific tech(React, Flask, etc)?

[wind acorn]

iirc there's an nlogn version that can be achieved without "sorting"

[wind acorn]

oof wait is that it? i thought it was a variation of merge sort where we split the array then during the recombination step we do the comparison or something

[slim lake]

I don't think it's possible to do it without building a graph

It's on leetcode the solution anyway

[wind acorn]

I wonder if she was asking for the version with the priority queue then

but that also has "sorting" sdfjkhdsnkfjhsdn

[mighty plume]

Well I guess I’m screwed:]

[cosmic cedar]

Hi, does anyone have given codepair phone interview round with Akuna Capital for Junior dynamic Quant developer profile? If yes, could you please tell me about the type of questions?

[worthy spear]

[rough atlas]

[unreal shale]

[barren spade]

hey, can anyone help me with writing a renege email? the templated seemed kinda cold

[copper sage]

jujst say ur family member died or something

[worthy spear]

What's the new grad process at FB, G?

Are new grad interviews harder than intern ones?

[real walrus]

usually 1 additional interview

[olive lily]

At google new grad it's usually
OA -> 1-2 Phone interview -> 4 technical + 1 behavioral -> offer
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1zFOSjsWJQ2kaNvTmvQi1Mnu4Uk8-JtqlS__RVpLHz6k/edit?resourcekey=0-JWclW7vkLyHoc3q8k_L6ow#slide=id.g6e65bfc090_1_3

Yea - interns don't get multiple interview usually

[dreamy crest]

Is Google doing onsite technicals or are those virtual

[olive lily]

I am going to guess everything is virtual rn lmaooo

[worthy spear]

It's a lot more than intern lmao

Isn't interns like OA + 2 phones?

[unkempt echo]

and host matching ya

[worthy spear]

Damn

I thought passing an intern interview was difficult

But new grad is like 7 leetcode questions

[unkempt echo]

ya the difficulty of new grad questions are generally similar to intern questions but theres a lot more rounds

[worthy spear]

anyone gave fordpass interview for android here?

[dreamy crest]

When do positions open for fall grads

applications start ig is the proper terminology

[pseudo bough]

any companies still hiring?

[clear zenith]

some but not many

2021 season has sailed

[worthy spear]

companies hire year round

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[clear zenith]

true im talking about the big names ygm

[worthy spear]

in that case ya for most of them

[clear zenith]

too late to chase clout this year

[civic rivet]

Walmart or Groupon if you had to choose

[worthy spear]

Walmart

[copper sage]

Groupon easy lmao

Unless it’s west coast Walmart

115k base + 2K stocks +5k bonus whatever isn’t bad but their 71k base in Arkansas is still pretty bad

[stone monolith]

groupon is a sinking ship

Look at the stock price

Just dead cat bounces since its IPO

[copper sage]

I mean depends if he’s looking to job hop

[stone monolith]

If we're talking about Sunnyvale walmart

[copper sage]

That too

[stone monolith]

or Arkansas walmart

walmart all the way

[copper sage]

Nah

[stone monolith]

Walmart has a better chance of making a big impact

[copper sage]

Sunnyvale is ok with the 115k base and 2K stock but 71k base and 2K stock in Arkansas is bad

Purely from a money standpoint only the west coast Walmart is worth it(Seattle,sv,sv)

But yeah Idk how long groupons gonna last

[stone monolith]

Yeah Groupon would be good networking but your TC is going to go down every year

[copper sage]

I mean the stock looks fine plus u at least get some stock

[stone monolith]

Groupon ain't bad. 103/11/17

[copper sage]

The Walmart stock rsu is 10k total over 4 years or 2.5k per year until 4th year

[stone monolith]

jeez

[copper sage]

After 4th its 10k per year

[stone monolith]

Oh that's a nice refresher

Hopefully by then you just quit and move elsewhere

[copper sage]

Yeaaa

But that’s why u might as well take Groupon

Stay for 1-2 yrs and leave for Walmart and get like 200k from Walmart for a senior role LOL

[stone monolith]

LMAO

bet

Damn Walmart why you gotta do engineers like that

[copper sage]

But yeah nvm Walmart if it’s west coast is a better bet

[stone monolith]

How are you gonna build a ecommerce platform but pay tata prices

?????

[copper sage]

But anywhere else it’s meh(Reston ,Dallas, Hoboken

10% off Walmart employee discount

[stone monolith]

hmm

I'm sold

Then make my own people of walmart page

make money off ads

supplement income

🤞

L5 at Google is my dream goal

Shilling for Google but it's cool

[copper sage]

They lowered their pay

[cerulean pivot]

weird flex but go off i guess

[main verge]

Anyone have any insights on Software Dev position at Akuna Capital?

[woven quartz]

Seen some people say on blind that the turnover rate is high... Never really looked into it tho but yeah seems pretty fast-paced

[main verge]

mmm would you know how I could look more into what people think about Akuna? The reviews don't seem that great on glassdoors but I really enjoyed talking with everyone during the recruitment process

[strong sand]

Hey guys, anyone had phone interviews for Google New Grad position yet?

NA

[woven quartz]

Check on blind

[main verge]

Alright thanks!

[unkempt echo]

can dm me

[worthy spear]

[proven ingot]

[worthy cedar]

call to renege or email to renege? seems way less awkward to send an email but then you don't have a confirmation that they've received the notice if they don't respond to the email

[timber pike]

Definitely email lol

Less chances for things to go wrong that way

[worthy cedar]

wait what could go wrong in a phone call outside of it being awkward?

[timber pike]

Not sure. Just no chances of any risks with an email tbh

If you’re cool with your recruiter then by all means

[worthy spear]

Anyone do Ion group phone interview?

[spare violet]

does any one know what it means for amazon to go from under consideration to application submitted. this happened after SDE I vitrual onsite

[knotty basin]

so i have a final round upcoming with one company but i gave them my availability monday and havent heard back and another company wants my availability to schedule an interview, is it okay to follow up w company 1 and give them a bump asking for an update? or is that too pushy

[fiery otter]

Go for it

I feel u sometimes gotta be a lil aggressive

Rather than being ghosted

[sick hazel]

doesn't it say "moved to another job" if its an offer?

[timber pike]

Yeah, but I've also seen people getting application submitted -> offer

might not be the case 100% of the time

[summer meteor]

Any1 know

How much BMO Full time is

[copper sage]

Epic is safer

[summer meteor]

The team is

I feel like for 1st job full stack is more useful

and yeah that's what i got told

Yea I dont think id be working on .net

Typescript or Mobile team maybe

which is trueu

[spare violet]

it has became to No longer now😭

[summer meteor]

but its big name

Lol

Mmmm

[violet willow]

Would this rejection response be considered burning bridges lmao?

Is this an April Fools joke? Just kidding ;)

I want to thank you guys for your consideration and great hospitality during the interviews. I had an amazing experience with your process and my interviewers were are all great. If you can, please send them my thanks as well.

If I can ask, does company have any cooldown period to the application process? I would still very much love to work at company.

I'm just saying since i'm including

Is this an April Fools joke? Just kidding 😉

[elder dragon]

for important communication you want it to be in writing. email would give you proof if things get weird.

[desert bough]

how many new grads did amazon hire this year? anyone got an idea? 5k?

[fleet turret]

are most companies using webstack languages such as react/angular? what about c++/java anymore?

[copper sage]

javas still being used heavily especially in web

spring + react

[vagrant raptor]

react and angular aren't languages

[slim lake]

Anyone done AWS SDE OA? The 90 minute hackerrank 1st of 2 rounds one

[azure gull]

whats the best way to find new grad software engineer jobs on linkedin? what do you search?

[civic rivet]

New grad software engineer

[real walrus]

😂

[ornate charm]

Search software engineer then filter by the experience level and location

[wind acorn]

i hear wisconsin has good beer and cheese

[elder dragon]

@ornate charm sometimes the experience level is wrong, I always get jobs with 5+ years in the job desc

Oddly enough the automated catered results (just search for location) are more accurate than when I search

[rose zodiac]

What is the typical SDE1 pay at amazon san diego. I mean is it in the range of seattle pay or in the range of bay area pay?

Typically a seattle SDE1 earns 155k TC while bay area developer earns 170k TC.

Is it because of COL. Is san diego cheaper than seattle ?

Cool thanks.

[formal ivy]

Anyone have any tips for phone screens with startups??

[copper sage]

Look up their values and try to think if you’d fit

[summer meteor]

lol

[summer meteor]

what's typical for new grad in chicago

[rose zodiac]

No idea!

[wind acorn]

probs like 90k?

[summer meteor]

Most of the nice companies like jpmc, grubhub, banks

do like 90 iirc

How much is that compared to CA

[copper sage]

200k

[wind acorn]

$90k in Chicago is pretty baller

[copper sage]

above avg is like 140-150k tc,faangs, famous ipos (doordash,roblox etc) gonna be in that 180-200k bracket

[wind acorn]

this is in bay area right

[copper sage]

ye

[wind acorn]

sorry context was kind of lost here not sure if you're talking about Chi or high COL

gotcha gotcha

yeah i was like bruh $200k in Chicago is baller status for a new grad in this industry lol

[summer meteor]

It's MCOL

not High lol

[summer meteor]

yeah thats for bay

[summer meteor]

im talking about chicago

I have an offer for 110k chicago Im leaning towards it

[copper sage]

I was referring to this LOL

[unkempt echo]

chicago is somewhere between what you could consider mcol and hcol

[summer meteor]

HCOL is NYC/Seattle/CA

[sly cradle]

Anyone interviewed for Citrix CVAD team ?

[unkempt echo]

CA being bay area and LA yes, other places in cali with work that isn't so hcol

[wind acorn]

that's great congrats! 🙂

[pastel condor]

what is the avg TC for a new grad in bay area?

[summer meteor]

Ty man

[summer meteor]

I think 120 right-130

[pastel condor]

for TC or just base?

[copper sage]

130k base 20-50k in bonus/stock

[pastel condor]

Ty

[unkempt echo]

that’s def not avg

Prob avg out of the offers posted here

[copper sage]

Nah it’s pretty average for sf

On levels it’s like 160k base lmaoo

130k is pretty normal

[unkempt echo]

For new grad?

[copper sage]

Yea

Most tech companies in sf pay lots cause they’re more innovative I guess

Nvidia is 130k base

Almost all my offers were 130k base(Walmart, lob

[summer meteor]

Is this san fran though

or like san jose

[copper sage]

San Fran/sj/sv

Prices don’t differ

[unkempt echo]

Looks like 108k here for junior

Nvidia isn’t the best example of an average salary prob

[copper sage]

Software test engineers making 130k damn

I mean that’s the type of company ur finding in af

Sf

It’s Silicon Valley knao

Not Kentucky

[unkempt echo]

well it says 108 right here lol

Don’t want someone to think 130 is avg and get bummed for getting lower

[copper sage]

And levels gonna say 200k

[unkempt echo]

Levels is def not an accurate source of data anymore lol

Also this isn’t new grad

[unkempt echo]

again

this isn’t junior

[copper sage]

Sf is gonna be more competitive

U got berkleey/Stanford kids everywhere

[unkempt echo]

Here’s ur same source with junior

[copper sage]

Junior ain’t new grad either lmao

[unkempt echo]

What percentage of Bay Area ppl do you think went to Berkeley or Stanford

[pastel condor]

what's the difference between new grad and junior?

[unkempt echo]

new grad is a subset of junior

junior can be 0-2 years or so

so realistically if we want specifically new grad the Glassdoor number should be bumped down a bit

[copper sage]

Most people gonna enter their salary under swe

Not junior

[unkempt echo]

wait

[pastel condor]

ty

[unkempt echo]

are you saying the software dev average from Glassdoor is more accurate for new grads than the junior software dev average lol

[copper sage]

Yeah 130k in sf is barely above poverty dude

The poverty lines at 90k

Or 70-80k for single los

[unkempt echo]

That doesn’t mean that’s the avg salary tho

also ur comp grows

[copper sage]

Nah new grad Bay Area because so many jobs here are disproportionately faang/pre ipo startups the salaries naturally skewed

It’s not like an even split which is why the salary is so high

Freaking Walmart in Arkansas base pay for new grad is 71k u gon tell me sf is only 9k above that LOL

[summer meteor]

this is fax

[unkempt echo]

not too sure where ur getting ur numbers but here’s Arkansas at 60k

[copper sage]

Also no one in the bay calls it junior engineering

Idk why but didn’t learn that term till I saw it recently here

Lmao u gon trash Glassdoor levels and then pull out indeed

[unkempt echo]

Idk do I trust aggregated data or ur anecdotes

[unkempt echo]

where’d I trash Glassdoor

[unkempt echo]

when I said this isn’t new grad?

lol

[copper sage]

I entered my data in Glassdoor as swe 2

For new grad

It’s just how most people call it here

[unkempt echo]

alright

[copper sage]

Again it’s super skewed here when every faang is here and not in Arkansas

Yeah if u get rid of all the high paying new grad jobs the salary goes down to like 80k

But faang didn’t come and choose Silicon Valley for no reason

There’s naturally more talent over here due to the huge uc system and Stanford and cal poly

Like I’m def biased a bit but 115-120k is lowest you’ll see for most top 200 companies

[azure gull]

Thanks

[azure gull]

Thanks

[azure gull]

Dude just stop LMAO

Folks be saying the most outrageous nonsense in here😂😂

[fresh cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/wazowski-mike-mike-sulivan-meme-monster-inc-gif-19634164

[azure gull]

And levels.fyi definitely isn’t the average because only big name companies are on there so it’s gonna be skewed upwards

Glassdoor would be better for the average because it includes ALL companies, if you think the average new grad is making 130k tc in the Bay Area you’re talking out of your ass lmao

And this is coming from a California native

[copper sage]

Nah I’m gonna stand by that one

[timber pike]

Nah it seems right

130k tc in BA is avg lol

[copper sage]

Been here in sf for last 7 years gonna bet on my talent and other people’s abilities

[timber pike]

you need to realize the taxes + HCOL skew that number heavily

[azure gull]

Lol this server is hilarious

[copper sage]

Is it a biased view since I’m coming from berk? And yeah we were getting snap benefits at 110k per year

[timber pike]

?

[azure gull]

Well that explains it

[timber pike]

you good bro?

[copper sage]

Well no shit Sherlock the Bay Area has good talent lmao

[timber pike]

why do you think 130k is too high? you're talkin about Bay Area lol

[copper sage]

It’s almost like Stanford, the uc’s, csus, cal tech don’t exist

[azure gull]

If you genuinely believe the average Bay Area new grad is making 130k tc idk what to tell you

[timber pike]

LOL

[copper sage]

130k tc is low bruh

[azure gull]

Keyword: average

[timber pike]

that seems to be average

LOL

[copper sage]

Yeah and average here is higher than in bum fuck no where

U might laugh and say I’m biased coming from cal

[timber pike]

you do realize the upper-tech boys are making close to 170-180k TC right?

at least

[copper sage]

But that’s cause the avg is higher here

[timber pike]

130 seems reasonable for the avg

[copper sage]

This is tc not base

[timber pike]

^

[azure gull]

Ik

You referenced levels.FYI as your source

[copper sage]

And then I pointed out Glassdoor

[timber pike]

^^^^

average CS grad in the bay is smart as fuck

[copper sage]

Again this is slightly skewed cause 130k base is a lot but total comp is gonna be around this level

Most of my friends who couldn’t get those 130k offers moved to other lower col areas making 70-90k

Higher talent cutoff here

[azure gull]

Ah I didn’t see that, sheesh I definitely underestimated the Bay Area salaries

[copper sage]

I’m prolly over biased and kinda high so average is likely closer to 115k tc but it’s def not 80k ffs

[azure gull]

Well I never said it was as low as 80k obviously lol but I still think 130k isn’t the average, 115k tc average def sounds more reasonable

[stone monolith]

Holy fuck that google offer

Is that for a new grad?

Now I feel like I could go out and get more money

[summer meteor]

80K AVG IN BAY?

lol what?????

[azure gull]

Yeah idk where that came from lmao

[north reef]

is 200k the min now

[elder dragon]

I can’t even get an offer I’d take $125k tc at this point

Also I don’t get why y’all are hating on @copper sage he’s right. Even if you’re making over $100k as a new grad, taxes, student loans, and crazy rent mean you could still barely make it in sf

And that’s without the $18 salads your coworkers want to go eat for lunch

When I interned at a company in the city I’d go out with a group of coworkers a couple times a week for coffee. The place they liked had $7/cup coffee

[late fossil]

That's flawed thinking. Look at the upsideof working at the bay area. You can grow a lot as opposed to being stuck in a dead beat job in the middle of nowhere

[woven coyote]

even if you can squeeze a bit more by going to a lcol area there's nothing to do

that's why HCOL areas became HCOL

[peak dirge]

Yeah it completely depends on what you want. The networking in the Bay Area/New York is insane if you’re in the tech field and want to leverage that. If you work in the Bay Area early on in your career, you’ll create longer and stronger network connections than if you went to a non-tech hub.

This also completely depends on the persons situation too. People making 200k with no student loans and managing their finances wisely in the Bay Area are going to have a lot more money than anyone in the same situation who’s working in a LCOL are for 90k. This is why you should just take your best option depending on your situation.

[latent cipher]

agree it all just depends on what you’re looking for. for me it’s worth it to live in a big city & spend more $ on rent bc i think i’ll have a much better time socially & make those connections w ppl working at big companies but i also grew up in a HCOL area so it’s less jarring to me than it otherwise would be. i get why someone wouldn’t want that

[peak dirge]

Yeah a big part of my mental health for me is living in a nice apartment/nice area so I’m spending more money on that but fortunately I have no student loans or debt so I don’t have to worry about those things. For me I’d be depressed if I lived in a LCOL area in a cheap apartment. It’s completely subjective and just depends on your situation and what you want honestly.

[eternal jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/genki-dama-spirit-bomb-goku-gif-12526925

Doing a final round for a start up today

[latent cipher]

genuinely just curious: at this point would you move if you got an offer from somewhere like microsoft? or would you want to take a few years in a LCOL area regardless

[dreamy crest]

Yes

[latent cipher]

makes sense! im moving from nj -> Seattle for OCI this summer & im definitely nervous abt leaving all my friends and family on the east coast

that was probably my biggest deterrent

[tired bay]

Yeah I’m headed to Seattle as well gonna be hard not being close to family but Pacific Northwest is where I saw myself so happy about that

[spring verge]

Anyone do the new grad interview with Google? What's the process like after the survey and coding challenge?

[elder dragon]

@worthy spear I’ve moved around so much as a kid, and of all the places I like SF the best so I want to live here and buy a house. But tbh a giant ranch in Wyoming might be nice some day 🤷🏽‍♂️

And fam is here; but yeah at that point it becomes more than about career and more about how you want to live your life

[grave wagon]

I'm scheduling a prep call for my Amazon interview and they said they'd be talking about salary expectations. Do I just dodge those? or should I provide a range

[severe oasis]

Doesnt Amazon give the same offer to everyone tho lol

why would they even ask about that when they dont negotiate

[iron gate]

i guess it depends if it's new grad or sde 1

for new grad i'd assume they would give the same offer to everyone since they're only dealing with college grads who don't have a lot of leverage

whereas sde 1 also includes people with industry experience that might be more niche for their role

[rancid gull]

thoughts on yext?

[undone abyss]

anyone do the final round w/ lever?

[dreamy crest]

My dream company and dream job

recruiter told me to apply when closer to my grad season

I'd cry if I worked in their nyc office

[ocean venture]

and those connections will help you leverage salary negotiations in the future IMO

[ocean venture]

seattle is beautiful, i hope you enjoy it 🙂

[latent cipher]

thank you! ive never been so im excited

[grave wagon]

It's for sde1 afaik. They rejected my new grad application for where I live but I got contacted about working for Prime Video

[buoyant ruin]

Anyone have any thoughts on the skills and endorsements on linkedin?
Someone who was giving me a referral told me to update mine before they passed my profile over to someone who had asked for it.
But like... I didn't think anyone actually cared

[knotty basin]

speaking of seattle any neighborhoods yall would recommend?

[buoyant ruin]

Kenmore or Bothel
They're placed pretty well between the north end of lake Washington and right between the i5 and i405

Plus mount lake terrace will be finishing the Link-rail station there pretty soon, so commuting will be super easy

[eternal jolt]

ballard is nice, spent the majority of last year living there and enjoyed the strips and parks

[distant dagger]

south lake union

[rancid gull]

i wouldn't consider kenmore or bothell to be neighborhoods of seattle, maybe suburbs.

[knotty basin]

suburbs are totally fine, just trying to get a sense for the area in general

[elder dragon]

do you guys think it's worth it to apply to postings that have 2-3yoe as a requirement when you have multiple internships?

i def apply to ones that have 1yoe as a requirement, just wondering if 2-3 is pushing it

[peak dirge]

There’s no negatives of doing this. If I recall, last fall there was someone in this discord that got hired as a SDE2 at a FAANG and all they had was a lot of internship experience. They might’ve had a masters tho.

[buoyant ruin]

everyone tells me to apply to those. The years of experience are just there to scare people away as they aren't very accurate metrics for measuring skill or proficiency

[heady kindle]

Has anyone here used rooftop slushie

[restive cairn]

any tips for microsoft OA?

[solar ocean]

Is it true getting new grad interviews is easier than getting internship interviews?

[olive lily]

ime experience it was much as easier to get interviews for internship - late third year onwards - I also found a lot more internship positions compared to new grads
might be because it was pre-covid though

[woven quartz]

Ditto

[fast cloud]

Hi everyone. Does anyone have any idea if Facebook going to hire 2021 new grads?

[ancient hill]

Anybody got an update regarding Better.com New grad after the onsite interview?

[vast rock]

Yes, many got a reject today

[sturdy mulch]

Are there channels specifically for moving to big tech hubs like Seattle, bay area, etc?

[light sage]

has anyone had hive.ai or nightfall onsites?

[autumn lynx]

anyone interview with neeva?

[wild bolt]

Hi guys, I previously was able to find a list of US companies that do visa sponsorship. (https://h1bdata.info/)

Are there any similar lists for openings and/or companies** in other countries** that will sponsor international students for work VISA? (Eg- Germany, UK, Canada, Singapore, Ireland, other European countries etc).

Help much appreciated.

[dim scarab]

i dont have a list but for germany, someone reached out about a C++ dev position for think-cell

so they are open

[woven quartz]

Same

From ripple match right?

[dim scarab]

just curious when did you start using them

and im glad ur not blasting referral links like the rest of them

[woven quartz]

Think i registered like 2 weeks ago

[dim scarab]

nice

they seem fishy to you?

[copper sage]

they're alright

got me a couple interviews

[dim scarab]

they are mostly fine, dont get me wrong, but i saw first hand the "referral" spam

[copper sage]

but def feels more oriented towards ds/business people

[dim scarab]

oh thank goodness

someone who knows

bro every time i ask i feel like its a pyramid scheme

[copper sage]

yea

i think theyre just trying to get more ppl to use their platform

[dim scarab]

yeah

[copper sage]

100% good for people looking for east coast/mid west jobs tho

[dim scarab]

makes sense but what students do to boost themselves lol

[copper sage]

lots of data/business/finance shit

[dim scarab]

yeah i peeped that

but wait

say i have an internship this summer

and i get a match

can i still use the match to apply and when should i do that

[copper sage]

i think u could still interview normally

[dim scarab]

ok bet

i like some of my matches and im hoping for more big ones

[stone monolith]

I get like 2 texts and like a few emails every day from ripplematch

[dim scarab]

thats supposed to be normal?

[clear zenith]

how is ripplematch for canada?

[worthy spear]

Google had briefly opened the new grad position in the US around first week of March. Did anyone hear back?

[worthy spear]

Did anyone graduated/graduating from University of Connecticut?

Need some information

[bright solar]

My friend is graduating from grad school at UConn in a few weeks

[waxen sundial]

Best time to start looking for new grad roles if you’re graduating April 2022? Ideally hoping to start in late summer or September

[knotty basin]

late summer - fall 2021

[waxen sundial]

thanks homie

[dense salmon]

What about for the Dec 2021 grads?

[knotty basin]

same time

[kind marten]

i got an oa from them a week ago

[placid marlin]

has anyone interviewed with bloomberg recently? are they still hiring?

[fiery otter]

I tbink they closed the app

@placid marlin

I applied a week ago and got auto rejected

[placid marlin]

@fiery otter i see... i also applied last week but have not heard back yet. I see now that the position is no longer on the website though

[fiery otter]

Yea atleast u didn’t get rejected lmao

So u still got a shot

[placid marlin]

@fiery otter i hope so....

[woven quartz]

they hire on a rolling basis so there's gna be a new posting at some point

[heavy hare]

You mean in summer or directly in fall?

[woven quartz]

i'd be surprised if there wasnt a new one before the summer

[heavy hare]

But they just opened in March last month

Is it how frequent they hire new grads, didn’t know that

[knotty basin]

tbh i'd just say i don't know but here's my best guess based on my prior understanding and here's how i'd go about finding the answer

[novel spoke]

you say you dont know or you try to guess if u can

[knotty basin]

don't think there's much else you can do, if you try and bullshit it'll be totally obvious lol

[novel spoke]

just say you’re not really sure so they know tho

[ancient hill]

!process Stackline offer

[feral marten]

You can only use this command in #2021_grad_process or #2021_intern_process

[rough atlas]

Are you able to apply to 2022 new grad positions if u are a 2021 new grad working for a year?

[wanton hound]

You can, depends on the company. Some companies allow you to apply if you graduated during the past 6 months, some even if you graduated a year ago

[fiery otter]

Wait so u can apply for 2022 grad positions

If u graduate in may this year m?

This year?

[wanton hound]

@fiery otter Yes for most companies

[rough atlas]

How do u know? Have u done this before?

[wanton hound]

@rough atlas My friend did he was working for GS for 6 months after graduating in 2020 and then started at Amazon as New Grad in Feb this year

[rough atlas]

oh i know amazon just doesnt look at resume much though

[wanton hound]

Plus if you looked up requirements for 2021 grads you can see the mention eligibility

*mentioned

[rough atlas]

i remember sometimes they say "currently enrolled in BS..."

[wanton hound]

Yeah not all companies allow but many do

[unreal shale]

Some allow recent graduate

[frosty forum]

what's ohio

[long sparrow]

are there any canadian folks looking for referrals?

[raw belfry]

Anyone who has given GS coderpad interview?

[subtle grove]

Anyone interviewed with wish. Please ping me

[dry walrus]

Did anyone complete Amazon phone interview recently?
This one SDE1 not New Graduate role

[slim lake]

Anyone go through Amazon/AWS SDE (not new grad) onsite process? I have my final round coming up

[slim lake]

I didn't have phone, I had a test in place of an interview.

But it was AWS SDE

[mighty plume]

i feel like amazon just ghosted me after I got rejected from the new grad role

[knotty basin]

anyone else here done qualtrics hiring manager interview?

[unkempt echo]

maybe stockx and quicken loans?

everyone i know in michigan usually just ends up at gm or chrysler

[knotty basin]

yeah so far everything has gone really well, had a really good interviewing experience w the phone and onsite. mostly just worried bc the hiring manager interview is also a technical so i'm not sure the lvl of difficulty to expect

[chrome trail]

Where do you guys check job postings these days.? I used to follow intern postings here earlier. Now these tabs seems dead

[ornate charm]

Do u know how much StockX swe pays

[arctic drift]

Not exact location but this looks like base-ish

[ornate charm]

80k base in Oakland CA it seems

[arctic drift]

Yeah unsure if they’d shift it up or down ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crimson lava]

Yo would you guys take an 1 hr 30 min commute by train one way (3hr total) for free rent?

In a HCOL area

[deft canopy]

Hey how are RSUs taxed? Do we get the full amount offered every year or are they taxed before given to us

[unkempt echo]

depends on your comp ig

[unkempt echo]

you pay income tax on the vest amount and capital gains tax on the appreciation from there

[hearty coral]

Hello, I am graduating next Spring 2022 and would like to know when the grad application normally starts...thank you!!

[desert bough]

Did you ever find out?

[arctic drift]

I do 1hr 30 min commutes once a week for something I do right now

it's not

especially if it's daily

You spend 1/8 of your day just driving

and you get so tired

You'll burn out really fast

[novel spoke]

probably totally depends on how much you're being paid

if you're paid 60k in HCOL it's probably worth

if you're being paid 700k then probably not worth

[crimson lava]

It's between 75k and 100k

[novel spoke]

i think that's up to you to make that judgement call then, but also consider if you're going to be spending that time doing other stuff, whether it be sleeping, going to the gym, hanging out w friends, etc. and if that time alone is worth it to you

[copper sage]

is the apartment nice?

[north reef]

I think a 30 minute one way is bad

[crimson lava]

It's either I share a 2 bedroom from someone I know from college (decent I guess not amazing) or do the 1hr 30 min train commute lol

I don't really care about alone time but I do care about applying to companies and leetcoding. That's my main concern

I would have to take a day off to interview if I needed to

[fiery otter]

Is 90k in Texas

Feasible

[wind acorn]

what part of Texas?

[fiery otter]

Plano

I think i worded that wrong

Is it enough to live

Comfortably

By urself

[wind acorn]

considering you can rent out a pretty comfy studio place for <$1.5k/mo

you'd be living pretty comfortably

even more so if you have roommates

https://www.apartments.com/plano-tx/

[fiery otter]

Oooo dam

Thanks dragooon

[lavish saddle]

what’s the best way to search for new grad job listings now? i’ve already exhausted linkedin jobs but not sure where to look now.

[worthy spear]

How hard is Jane Street/ Jump trading and HRT interview process?

[fiery otter]

@lavish saddle

Not much left my brother

Try applying

All associate positions

[arctic drift]

on the harder end

[shrewd kestrel]

Has anyone interviewed for Associate Support engineer at SAP?

[worthy spear]

sheesh

[elder dragon]

had a coworker who lived in San Jose and commuted to SF 5 times a week. I think he hated himself tho

[sturdy mulch]

Maybe look at Rivian, I think they are close to there?

[clever granite]

StockX

I think Rivian is mostly Palo Alto for engineering, idk about other functions. there is a small office in Irvine so maybe

[sturdy mulch]

Oh I thought I remember seeing Michigan. I could be totally wrong

[dim scarab]

ive linked rivian with midwest

[mint swan]

A quick query, do we keep this country name to where we are applying or where we currently live in? Note - It's workday application first page

[still marsh]

I have mine this wednesday. Anybody who took it recently, what's the format?

[radiant shore]

How's PayPal SWE culture like?

[copper sage]

ik a couple people on the honey team and they seem to like it there

[subtle field]

Where you currently live

[wind acorn]

damn even better then

[solemn sage]

Has anyone done Nordstrom hirevue ?

[worthy spear]

How good is a Hudson River trading offer vs a Jane street offer?

Which would give u more recognition in the tech world?

[dim scarab]

imagine getting the choice to choose between the two

cant relate

id say jane street

i think they have more assets, you can tell i dont see much difference

[tame raven]

[unreal shale]

[limpid steppe]

[proven ingot]

[sacred oyster]

anyone interviewing at SAP?

[knotty basin]

[eternal jolt]

Been reading online that apple can take up to a month to finalize an offer letter or rejection.. the anxiety

[dreamy crest]

I might, I was told i'd hear back

[polar violet]

[eternal jolt]

kkkkkkkk just got my rejection lol

p a i n

[fiery otter]

When ya get ur first full time job

Remove internships or nah

[frosty forum]

no

[worthy spear]

would be great if anyone could provide insight: how does your response rate compare to junior year when you were applying for internships?

[zinc dawn]

I am making an application using React, so I am iterating over an array which has more than 100000 elements. I am modifying "src" of an image using value of these elements. But seems like its taking lot of time. Any idea how to solve this?

[flint ember]

Has anyone received any updated from CVS Health for DS/DE position?

[zinc dawn]

So what i want to implement is lazy loading. I have implemented it in some way although it only works for less number of images, i have more than 100000 number of images.

[elder dragon]

when i was in junior year (last year), I got 2 interview, 1 offer from 200 applications. this year (graduating this august) i'm applying to ft and internships, so far 350 apps, ~5 interviews, no offers

[elder dragon]

are you returning each <img> as a separate component?

[latent cipher]

about the same for me! i applied to ~50-60 places, probably got to some form of next step (coding challenge, etc.) for ~10 companies, & ended up w 3 offers (1 return, 2 from the recruiting cycle).

[latent cipher]

sorry the above was in response to this

[worthy spear]

oof so the extra internship didn't help too much?

[latent cipher]

honestly i think it was still useful! i probably did a little better than the year before. but also COVID has fucked w hiring

[worthy spear]

this is really good! and thanks for sharing 😁

[elder dragon]

it was a PM internship. ironically i've only gotten ft interviews for SWE not PM this year lol. i'm sure it'd be much harder if i didn't have it though.

[worthy spear]

i see. and yeah I almost forgot that new grad hiring this year was much more tough 😦 thanks btw!

[elder dragon]

np

[worthy spear]

😋 🍴

[random void]

Hey, about to do the online technical screen, could you tell me about it?

[sacred oyster]

which role?

[dreamy crest]

next talent program

for software dev

[knotty basin]

is it like... normal for virtual onsites to be 5 hours of back to back technicals? is it reasonable to ask if half can be scheduled on another day?

[cursive loom]

most of my onsites were 4-5 hours

there was a 30 min break between half of the whole onsite usually though

but you can ask to do half on another day, worst case is they say no

[knotty basin]

true fair point

5 hours of zoom technicals sounds like absolute hell lmao

[full shore]

im always dead by the end of them

it is

just do crack in the middle

[cursive loom]

^

[full shore]

thats what im gonna start doing

[cursive loom]

can u share some ket

[knotty basin]

pop an adderall or some shit lmfaooo oh my god

[full shore]

i unironically eat salt lmao

[cursive loom]

yo anyone got some ket?

pls

[full shore]

check ur dms

[arctic drift]

I just want some techno

[civic rivet]

Anyone heard of Verkada? Reputable startup?

[cursive loom]

i want som slutmanfatass pls

[rancid gull]

i dont think ket is the right substance for a technical interview

[cursive loom]

idk bout u but i can only solve leetcode on ket

[rancid gull]

kinda legendary ngl

[zinc dawn]

Nope

[zinc dawn]

I have a phone interview for SE role in which they will ask Computer Science fundamentals. Any tips on that? What questions should i focus on?

[rancid gull]

probably go over data structures and time complexities? sorting stuff? did they just say cs fundamentals in general?

[elder dragon]

https://reactjs.org/docs/fragments.html might be looking for this then

[zinc dawn]

Yes

[zinc dawn]

Thanks! But i think this won't help in my case.

[tall nebula]

just guessing here but cs fundamentals might include common classes cs majors take like operating systems/networking in addition to algorithms mentioned above

[unkempt echo]

Depends on the job you want

[frosty forum]

You don’t need it (never took it as a course and got a job)

[unkempt echo]

If you want to get into systems work (robotics, high frequency trading) then you need it

Otherwise nah

[torpid sand]

Did google post any apprenticeship roles in swe for 2021 (US)?

[hybrid panther]

Yeah I went through the last round of AWS SDE-1, got rejected though on 3/2

[elder dragon]

with this daily prayer i come forth with humblness, asking for merely a $150K tc offer. don't even need perks at this point.

[tame raven]

[proven ingot]

[weary ice]

[torn terrace]

when is the 2022 grads channel coming

[grave wagon]

had a chime call with a hiring person to prep for the onsite, they sent me the sde3 prep packet and scared the shit out of me 😆

[stone monolith]

Idk 2021 grads haven’t graduated yet 💀

[torn terrace]

yeah but '22 recruiting has started

not saying '21 should be removed

[half schooner]

is there a way to look for '22 postings? I'm still seeing '21 grads postings only

[knotty basin]

has it actually tho? i haven’t seen any postings, isn’t it too early?

[wind acorn]

no way

... right?

[ocean venture]

'22 recruiting hasn't really started wat

I haven't seen any postings for '22 grads lol

[stone monolith]

Me neither

Maybe in June they’ll drop but this is way too soon lol

[subtle grove]

Is there any hope for 2021 grads without offers

Im talking May/June grads

[fiery otter]

Yes we gotta keep grinding

[kind marten]

Yeah there is def hope still. just keep applying and work on the side projects

[worthy spear]

and leetcode

[elder dragon]

@subtle grove there is! just check LinkedIn jobs every morning and you’ll see on avg 5 new job postings

Monday and Thursday mornings have the best pickings in my experience

@worthy spear ok maybe $125k lmaooo

[tough silo]

Hey guys, I accepted a FT return offer for Amazon on the portal a few months ago but I haven't signed yet. I'm in the process of interviewing with Twitch. Do you think Amazon will make Twitch rescind my offer if I renege Amazon, even though I haven't technically signed yet?

[worthy spear]

Can someone explain please this 'Try to solve this task in O(n) time using O(1) additional space'? I get O(n) time part but what does it mean when it says O(1) additional space? Does it mean we can use an additional space of O(1) other than the O(1) that is normally used by an algorithm (something like twice the space)?

Thank you in advance!

[last linden]

additional space of O(1) means if you pass in a list of n numbers you cannot create a new list to hold n values

the length of whatever you're creating has to have constant length

[granite flax]

I suppose it means, the working memory actually used is constant no matter how large the input size

[arctic drift]

it means create a list of SIZE_MAX values because that's still O(1)

[crimson lava]

Anybody who is starting as a FTE this summer know if they will be remote or not?

[arctic drift]

I believe summer will be remote for /most/ though there's starting to be plans to transition to in-person

ot

esp bc vaccination

^ this is true for roblox at least

[mighty plume]

most companies r doing sept

[crimson lava]

I believe Amazon said July 1st return date unless somebody knows for sure (that's what I got from a friend)

[civic rivet]

Walmart july 5

[elder dragon]

no, they mean you can't duplicate the array or create a new array

[ocean venture]

i finally got an interview with a decent company after applying since like august so there is some hope

let's hope i don't bomb it LOL

[elder dragon]

you got this!

[ocean venture]

ty, first place i'm actually interested in working for

it's rough out there

[digital carbon]

Kinda the same case at bloomberg and for the same reason (vaccination)

It's already possible to go into the office actually, but I think very few engineers are doing that (mostly client-facing or news ppl have a need to actually be in the office)

[fiery otter]

Would be an honor to start professional career at _____

If u saw that as a recruiter as ur subject line

What would u think

[dreamy crest]

Does this channel also include Fall 2021 grads?

Cause I don't know when new grad positions for fall grads open

[arctic drift]

Fall 2021 grads apply during the 2022 cycle-ish

so like summer 2021

[dreamy crest]

Does this also include positions that start in spring?

I'm looking to start ft january hopefully

I don't want to wait till next summer

[arctic drift]

usually companies will be fine starting you in jan

if you're grad in Dec

[dreamy crest]

even if the initial posting specifies a start date of summer?

that's kind of relieving

[arctic drift]

I mean it's usually just like a generic New Grad app when you apply

[dreamy crest]

true ig

ty

[kind marten]

Does google onsite ask system design for new grad?

[rancid gull]

anyone done snap new grad?

[knotty basin]

i just did and have my onsite coming up

[rancid gull]

oh cool

how was it?

[knotty basin]

HAHAHA hardly i have no offers rn 😭

[knotty basin]

it was fine, like 20 min behavioral and 40 min technical, had a lc medium dp problem

nothing crazy

[rancid gull]

dp

thx

[knotty basin]

that was my reaction too LOL

[rancid gull]

did u have like a 15 min "intro" call beforehand w a recruiter too?

before the screen

[knotty basin]

yeah i did, idk if you already had it but she just told me about the role and the timeline and asked if i was in process w any other companies etc

she didn't even ask about my resume or anything lol

[rancid gull]

Seems kinda pointless but aight

[knotty basin]

lmao yeah it kinda was

i think they're just trying to make sure we're on the same page about the type of role and the process etc

[rancid gull]

i see. thx

[elder dragon]

when you solve a DP problem do you do brute force and then optimize/memoize?

or do you just jump into the correct solution

[knotty basin]

depends on whether i want to do tabulation or memoization but if it's memoization i do the brute force recursion and then memoize it if it's tabulation it probably makes the most sense (to me) to jump straight into the correct solution

since a lot of dp problems can probably also be solved with dfs/bfs but inefficiently i might discuss that (if i know it or can easily arrive at it) and describe why the runtime might be bad and how i can improve on that w dp

[elder dragon]

ok, fs. thanks!

[full shore]

I just say no thank you and immediately exit out of any interview i get a dp

[knotty basin]

leaves zoom meeting

[elder dragon]

^ me at the current moment

[subtle helm]

no. recruiter just told us this

[fleet turret]

is amazon still hiring 2021 new grads SWE?

[native wharf]

If anyone has accepted an offer from Dataminr, could you please DM me? I have a few questions

[errant whale]

Any advice for prepping for Byteboard interviews?

[cerulean pivot]

@warm path

[azure gull]

https://tenor.com/view/leaving-lebron-james-walk-out-im-out-bye-gif-11934258

[zinc dawn]

I want to implement infinite scrolling(without using library) and lazy loading using React. Moreover, user should be able to jump to any spot on the page regardless the content is loaded or not. Any resource for that?

[solid laurel]

whats google/fb process? aiming for 2022 new grad role at one of the two

[slim lake]

how do they generally make a decision when you have an onsite with around 4 independent interviews/interviewers? Do you need to pass all? Majority vote? Or is it subjective

[solid laurel]

ty!

[slim inlet]

graduating during a panoramic and trying to leetcode grind just so i can find a job during a panoramic is so.... heartbreakingly painful

[elder maple]

panoramic

[subtle grove]

Anyone who interviewed at wish before?

What questions can i expect in wish tech video interview first round

[ocean venture]

How difficult would you say the coding challenge was? I just got my oa today and I am simultaneously stoked and piss scared haha

Well that is at least more comforting :P

This is my first bigger oa so I'm just freaking a lil

😂

[tame raven]

[dreamy crest]

how strict is google with gpa and academic requirements as opposed to experience

[dreamy crest]

i was hoping my experience would offset my horrible grades

[civic rivet]

Everyone getting google OAs and I’m just sitting here like

[fiery otter]

google made u send a transcript

right

[dreamy crest]

do they have new positions open?? to be getting oa's this late

[fiery otter]

na i think this all from the one

that opened up in march

they prob still recruiting

[dreamy crest]

the only positions i see are open abroad and not in the US lmao

[wind acorn]

depends on the company's hiring bar

[hoary herald]

anyone know how long facebook/Google consider you a new grad after graduation?

[civic rivet]

Alright final polling: Arkansas Walmart or Groupon which is most likely remote

Leaning Walmart because Groupon seems like a failing company and I’ll just try to leave Walmart after a year for something better and not in Arkansas

[peak dirge]

https://twitter.com/stoicleys/status/1380015380530356225?s=21

LL (@StoicLeys)

Zoom is one of Silicon Valley’s most exciting & relevant tech companies. New innovations + incredible growth means... we're opening more roles for 21' University Grads & Interns w/ backgrounds in CS n technical business skills!

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[subtle helm]

yes

[ocean venture]

I applied for the new grad last month

And got my google oa today

[oak hedge]

I’m gunna be a summer ‘21 grad. If I apply during the fall season do those jobs start in the winter or the next summer ?

[ocean venture]

Some will start in the winter for sure

I'd say your peak hiring time is right around now/the last few months

Although more new grad positions will probably start opening up in summer/July