2021_grads

[gleaming sigil]

Wattt??? Nooo😭😭

[sturdy mulch]

Just did my first OA and holy shit I panicked and I only answered one question. This is going to be a long and hard job search 😓

[sturdy raft]

for which company?

[sturdy mulch]

@sturdy raft square, they were relatively easy questions. Idk what happened.

[wind acorn]

darn I'm sorry :/

[sturdy mulch]

Back to the drawing board of studying. On to the next one

[fleet turret]

is it better to apply early or apply when you feel like your ready to interview?

[placid marlin]

Anyone get the "early career" engineernig Twitter OA? is it the same as the "University" swe OA?? LOL

[fleet turret]

like knowing what to do basically?

[digital carbon]

Startups probably

[fleet turret]

what u mean here?

[blissful adder]

or you will make mistakes like that bc youre not talking through your code/rushing,depends on what kind of dveloper you are

you also dont write functions like that on the job lol

id rather work through an API design in an in person interview bc im more likely to design an API and then confer w my manager or a coworker about it

[verbal flame]

@fleet turret companies hire on rolling basis, so applying early is good. so dont wait too long for interview preparation.

[dry walrus]

Any new companies sending OA?

[subtle helm]

is jp morgan still hiring?

[buoyant nexus]

what do u guys think about swe vs quant

[radiant shore]

Quant pays better after 140 iq range if lucky. Usually 150+

[buoyant nexus]

sn

[tight ruin]

Quant has a more fun job if you like math imo from what i know and from the folks I’ve talked to that do each

[worthy spear]

If you have done amazon new grad OA, can u still apply to SDE 1 positions or are you like banned?

[steep oriole]

They hire people based on iq?

[rustic zinc]

did anyone give twitter hackerrank?

[dry mural]

yeah

it wasnt bad at all

@rustic zinc

[rustic zinc]

Yea just did it, did you hear back after?

[mystic mica]

You can apply to external SDE1 positions on specific teams that aren’t the generic new grad position

[worthy spear]

Cool thanks! I did OAs for the new grad one but didnt get it. Hoping im not blacklisted or anything when I apply to these SDE1 positions

[limber mesa]

is it harder to get a new grad job than an internship?

i'm currently a junior and may not intern this summer, but if its really hard to get a new grad job (compared to an internship) i'd rather focus hard on an internship so i can get a return offer

[worthy spear]

easier to get noticed but still a grind @limber mesa

[unkempt echo]

ive had similar response rates, same difficulty of questions but much longer processes (3 rounds vs 4 rounds, etc..)

[atomic pivot]

I've had higher response rates (most likely due to a bigger name on my resume), questions were a bit more difficult, and I agree with Hiru the process was just longer tbh

[limber mesa]

thank you all for the replies!

[worthy spear]

Guys, is there any company other than Amzn or twitter sending OA?

[olive lily]

Citadel, Quora, Roblox, Square, TikTok

[worthy spear]

Applied to all, did not receive an OA as of now

Sorry, recd for Roblox and submitted it, no response yet..

[candid torrent]

Anyone done with Tiktok interview?

[slim lake]

Anyone know what's the deal with Expedia? Do they usually hire a lot?

[fallow bane]

Do new grad applications stay open all year long? I'm wondering when I should apply if I am graduating in December (Fall) instead of May/June (Spring).

[unborn swan]

Do you guys think Amazon is lower FAANG or no ?

[cerulean pivot]

only on thursdays

[unborn swan]

lmao 🤣

[blissful adder]

i think the fact that you ask the question answers it....but also who cares

[cerulean pivot]

large companys suck but its like all college kids know

so they idolize it

dont think into it too much

[blissful adder]

^

[iron gate]

i mean if you only care about clout chasing and prestige i guess

[wind acorn]

iirc they took down their generalist SWE new grad roles

But y'all heads up Square is still recruiting for an "AI Engineer (New Grad)" position:
https://www.smartrecruiters.com/Square/743999731392942

[dapper vale]

Anyone heard back from this? ^

I lowkey feel like they might be looking for PhD new grads

[proper wolf]

anyone know of companies that just recently posted a new grad position?

[visual lagoon]

@proper wolf http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=linkedin.com

[proper wolf]

i do that everyday bro

u can look everywhere and still miss things 🙂

[olive lily]

@tepid ore yea applied to that in the new grad no reply - same assessment link I think

but i kinda messed up their last question

not sure ran out of time

[proper wolf]

did u apply recently? i just applied but the codesignal link was invalid

[olive lily]

yea for the ai position it was pretty recent

[fresh cloud]

when you're leetcoding and you see the solution has a 2-star rating: "This is written by @awice, isn't it?" and 10 times out of 10, you'd be right

[fleet turret]

does bloomberg send OAs?

[foggy blade]

their first round is phone screening

[foggy blade]

We have to finish the assessment while applying is what I understand coz they have that assessment link there in the application, could you please confirm?

[inner swift]

Grad ☺️

Wait wrong channel I guess. Technically finished last fall

[olive lily]

oh yea mb it's part of the application - so just in case they decide to look at your application they can find a reason to reject you LMAO

[foggy blade]

ok, so did you complete the assessment while applying?

[olive lily]

nah did after lmao

they assessment has an automated expiration based on when you applied

[foggy blade]

ok, what's the expiration time?

[olive lily]

so like if you apply today it will be due like two weeks from now

[foggy blade]

ok, so I have to copy and save the link from my application? or like link is generic to everyone?

[olive lily]

so like I feel like they don't care - might be wrong lmaooo

it's generic

[foggy blade]

ok, thanks.

[olive lily]

I guess sending assessment and never looking at them is Jack Dorsey's style lmaooooo

[whole yoke]

The best chance to get into Twitter are through their university programs. It's too tough otherwise.

[proper wolf]

whats the time limit for square oa?

[barren wadi]

Have you undergone any experienced role interviews?

[whole yoke]

nope

[whole yoke]

by tough I mean getting the phone screen or past the coding challenge. after then it's just twitter lc tagged.

[solar tulip]

The real problem with Twitter is that your internship experiences needs to be very specific, since the hiring is team specific

So a hiring manager needs to actually pick your resume compared to recruiters who will pick you if you have general skills/experience

[torpid sand]

If I'm graduating in end of Fall 2021 (December, but actual graduation ceremony in Feb 2022), can I apply for 2022 new grad roles?

[blissful adder]

yes

[hallow ether]

anyone hear from Twitter after the OA?

[steep oriole]

Guys, how do you deal with recruiters that ghost you after the final round?

I was expecting the result for my Bloomberg final to come out 2-3 days later, it's been a week already, and my recruiter has not responded any of my emails. I've pretty much assumed that I've been rejected but I'd prefer some closure lol

[granite flax]

A week seems like good time to follow up. Then maybe week 2 or 3. Then a month later and then cry

[steep oriole]

Yeah cool, I already followed up twice with no avail. I'll set up weekly scheduled emails then.

Thanks for the info! Gotta love how strangers on discord helps me out more than the people who are paid to recruit us lol

I took the final interview though

I think you understood me incorrectly. I took the Bloomberg onsite (2 tech + HR) and engineering manager round last week, and that's when the manager said to expect to hear back within 3 days.

I really hope so...

[wind acorn]

https://www.teamblind.com/post/Twitters-internal-hiring-policy-ucUZvLpY

[iron gate]

kinda fucked if true

[velvet rapids]

don't believe it is

[cerulean mist]

closure

[vocal jolt]

This list does explicitly not include lmaoooo

[granite flax]

Yeah i came across some twitter thread with large amount of likes (not the OG poster) and a lot were saying it’s meme

[velvet rapids]

yea it's not, so many holes in that thing

[granite flax]

The school thing if anything gives it away imo

[velvet rapids]

yup

[granite flax]

Could be wrong but i think that’s it

[whole yoke]

if you not heard back soon, it's a good sign

Bloomberg rejects quick ... I got a reject 2 business days after the manager round. Expect an email from your recruiter to set up a call...

[whole yoke]

nah. I don't think this is true

I have seen some very very mediocre people get into Twitter. Zero work ex and from a god-forsaken university. Blind is full of unsatisfied trolls with tons of insecurity. Ignore!

[atomic pivot]

No wonder I’m ghosted

[severe jay]

It’s on levels new grad was like 120k I believe

[zinc dawn]

I saw that Square is taking general assessment on codesignal for the new grad role... any tips for that?

[atomic pivot]

read the paper

basically randomized questions nothing DP apparently

but they still ask DP? lol

[fleet turret]

does bloomberg literally ask questions from leetcode?

[mystic mica]

Yes

Just grind the lc premium list

[fleet turret]

is it the same questions from the leetcode bot?

[mystic mica]

No

Idk how the bot gets its questions but it’s not the same pool

[fleet turret]

rip how would i find the list?

[mystic mica]

?? It’s on leetcode

Click on Bloomberg

You need premium to view it

[fleet turret]

lol i meant is there a way to get for free

[mystic mica]

Hm, probably by asking someone with prem to take a screenshot or export a pdf of the webpage

[raw belfry]

Anyone who had a interview call with audible recruiting coordinator

Why would we want to talk to the head of recruiting

Would it be like a LP interview?

[silent knot]

bruh @calm cove INEEDED THIS THANKU ❤️

[steep oriole]

Thanks for the info! It might depend on the recruiter too. Mine for one hasn't replied to the emails I sent on Thursday and today so I'm trying not to think about it too much.

[calm cove]

Glad it helped :)

[azure gull]

Ladies and gentleman: Blind

[dapper dock]

I saw this, can't relate to it tho

[azure gull]

I’m sure it’s a troll post but it’s hilarious

[bleak mica]

Bucharest as a top university in Europe? That's so random lmao.

[raw belfry]

Anyone who has given Audible interview?

[verbal flame]

Have you given Bloomberg interview recently?

[verbal flame]

@mystic mica is recent 6 months LC list enough for bloomberg ?

[mystic mica]

I haven’t

[cursive oasis]

if u guys dont have premium and need a list of the top bloomberg lc tagged in the last 6 months msg me

i would post it here but idk if dats allowed

[quick lodge]

peeps who completed VMware phone, how long do they take to respond back?

[slim holly]

this made my day 😆 just after Msft rejected

[icy hare]

i cant believe people take what people post on blind to be true

these "leaks" are not leaks at all, just troll posts

so much misinformation going around

[iron gate]

blind is only good for the gems like "how do i get a girlfriend"

[limpid lichen]

anyone here interviewed with PLTR?

[azure gull]

Haha

[kind marten]

i did

[limpid lichen]

can i dm you?

[azure gull]

Lmao right, I don’t go on blind to be informed I go on blind to laugh

[kind marten]

sure

[woeful dew]

So if I get 6/7 Amazon debugging, should I lose all hope? XD

[fresh cloud]

Dude, that's fine. People pass with 3/7

[raven mountain]

Has anyone recently given Salesforce Developer Interview

[half walrus]

Did anyone ever get a new LC problem during the 30 min meme final round for Amazon?

[wind acorn]

meme final round

[remote canopy]

30 min is called a verification interview

Its used to make sure you know how to implement the solutions you made for the earlier technic problems

They’ll ask u q’s about alternative solutions

But hella basic

[visual lagoon]

are those LC problems in #699532227536486451 from @feral marten for a company LC premium company tagged problems for that company?

[mystic mica]

it's a mix up

it's not the exact same ordering

i think the bot takes the premium list + top questions list

[pastel condor]

anyone interview for apple for silicon validation software engineer before?

[chrome sage]

Which position did you apply to?

[velvet cloud]

Anyone know what Amazon background check checks for

[cerulean pivot]

it's derived off of the company report metrics

that is stored internally on leetcode's end

i dont know what the difference is between premium/top question list

but what i use is good enough to call it a source of truth

[worthy spear]

Hey Joey. Does the bot sync through an API that pulls everytime it's called upon? Or do you update it manually? If so, is it updated / and if not, when was the last pull?

[cerulean pivot]

last pull was <30 days ago

[worthy spear]

Alright, thanks for that! Helps 🙂

[cerulean pivot]

i could set up a job to refresh after a certain time

but relatively speaking, the data wont move that much

[worthy spear]

Makes sense. I think the confusion derives from how LC shows the questions when you select a specific company in the list.

~75% of the questions are the same, with some new ones, and changes in the frequency of ordering

[ornate charm]

Anyone know how long it takes to set up a final round for Microsoft?

[stone monolith]

I have a microsoft new grad swe interview next week

anyone got any advice

it's for a cleared engineer position

[real walrus]

wut is a cleared engineer

[visual lagoon]

he ain't a dirty engineer

[stone monolith]

engineer with a security clearance

[supple creek]

has anyone taken online coding test from teladoc(livongo) sde backend?

[limber dome]

Anyone here interviewed with bloomberg ? For virtual onsite is it 2 technical rounds + HR on the same day or just 2 technical rounds and schedule HR another day if you pass the 2 technicals?

the email didn't specify but I heard of people getting the HR right after anyway

[worthy spear]

Probably depends on HR’s availability

[soft sage]

would also like to know dis ^^

[mystic mica]

just asked a kind friend 🙂

pre-pandemic, if you didn't pass the two technicals they'd just end the process and walk u out lol

otherwise you went on to HR round + final hiring manager/senior eng

so I think now, if you do well on the technicals then the HR + hiring manager rounds are given to you. HR is right after, and hiring manager will be schedule for a later date perhaps

[soft sage]

okay awesome

I scheduled my interview for like march 2nd

I got a full time offer from BNY Mellon so I've got that for now but when I saw the Bloomberg email I was like 👀

I haven't done Leetcode in like 5 months so it's time to grind

how soon after phone screenings do they usually schedule/have the HR round and final hiring manager round?

[mystic mica]

after phone screen is the two technical rounds (+ HR if you do well on those)

you can push it back like a month although that seems a litle long imo

[soft sage]

oh wait what

Is the phone screen a technical round too?

because that's what the email sounded like

[mystic mica]

uhh

i mean if it's just the recruiter asking to call you

it's just them telling you the process

otherwise it's a technical yeah

[soft sage]

nah they like sent me a hackerrank link

[mystic mica]

oh

yeah it's a technical lol

[soft sage]

and told me we'd be pair programming

day of

oof

I saw par for the course is usually 2 LC mediums?

[mystic mica]

that's for onsites

phone screen is usually 1 med

don't quote me on it though

[soft sage]

gotem

good to know

[mystic mica]

3 lc med-hards

hackerrank

above a certain point and they look at ur resume

[soft sage]

I'mma just go HAM on this bloomberg premium list

[mystic mica]

so 100% on it isn't guaranteed to move on

[cursive oasis]

do all 6 month tagged and ur good

[fresh cloud]

Goddamn, i hate codesignal. Hackerrank always makes me feel less stupid

Hackerrank has no metrics after you're done to tell you how stupid you are 🤣 but codesignal does

[dapper vale]

codesignal is hands down the worst

[fresh cloud]

Also i solved 3 out of 4 problems and those fucks said i was slow at coding

Like, I'm trying mannn

O well hehe 🤣 that was actually my first codesignal

[mystic mica]

https://codesignal.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/general-coding-assessment-framework.pdf

[fresh cloud]

Thank you @mystic mica i will keep this in mind for the next time. It was my first time taking it and i just went ahead and tried to do them in order

[olive lily]

code signal was definitely worse than hackerrank but codility is something else lmaooo

[fresh cloud]

Which companies use codility 😂

[olive lily]

DRW and Microsoft so far lmaoooo

[hybrid folio]

fuck codility man

hate that

[ornate charm]

What’s so bad about codility?

[olive lily]

they don't tell you how you did when you submit - so like it won't say x/101 - cases passed
So, you have to make sure to read the input requirement carefully to make sure you passed all the edge cases - meet the speed requirement etc.
You also get judged for other random shit - like code signal like speed and how effectively u used ur time LMAO

I just hate the anxiety of being not sure if I should submit a task

[fresh cloud]

That's so damn stupid. All my homies hate speed metrics

[thorn stirrup]

Bruh

expedia OA with the dp hard

started at it for 20 minutes and just submitted with a short psuedo code comment note briefing something something backtracking.

least I got the first problem & multiple choice, maybe that'll carry ? lol. rip

dp is so god damn difficult fuck it all to hell this process is discouraging.

[grand tangle]

Anyone got a team specific OA for amazon ?

[late fossil]

@grand tangle I did

[grand tangle]

How was it ?

[feral marten]

Unable to locate data on Databrick

https://www.levels.fyi/salary/Databricks/

[buoyant nexus]

!salary dataminr

[feral marten]

Unable to locate data on Dataminr

[lyric jay]

Anyone had a Verily phone interview recently?

[snow kayak]

Microsoft recruiter just reached out for full time. All I have is pain :/

Continue to keep your LinkedIn updated and make posts, folks.

[raw belfry]

What did she say @snow kayak

[snow kayak]

Wants me to apply to new grad posting and they’ll schedule an interview by next week

[worthy spear]

do u guys apply to both internships and new grad or exclusively new grad

[worthy spear]

anyone do ixl onsite?

[olive lily]

congrats dude 🎆
you got this

[snow kayak]

Can’t apply for it though, I don’t graduate until December

[olive lily]

jeez see if you can message them back to either apply for an internship or let them know when you are graduating

[snow kayak]

Already got internships secured so basically I’m in a waiting period for the new grad process, just need to keep my connections active once I can apply

[zenith marten]

Does anyone know when verizon media roles come out, or have they already been filled up?

For new grad SWE

[digital carbon]

That's fine I think? I mean these big companies recruit a whole year in advance anyways, so I think they wouldn't mind if you graduate in December.

Unless the application is specifically for Spring grads, but I'm sure the recruiter should be able to help with the logistics

[normal tide]

IIRC Verizon Media mostly recruits from their intern class itself. Or at least that's what I have been told by the people who work there 🤷🏻‍♂️

[snow kayak]

The job description mentions a start date of 3-6 months from interview, but maybe it’s flexible? Hopefully the recruiter responds with clarification

[digital carbon]

Gotcha

Yea hopefully they can help with that

[snow kayak]

T-Mobile - TechX Professional Program: Rotational learning program for new/recent grads

https://www.t-mobile.com/careers/meet-our-teams/students-and-grads/techx

[visual lagoon]

btw this is one of the questionnaires in the t mobile job application lol

[woven tinsel]

I saw that that lol

I have a feeling they do count it against you

even if they say otherwise

[visual lagoon]

well then F for me

[woven tinsel]

Yeah i have AT&T

[visual lagoon]

they are gonna ask you to bring your phone to the camera during your virtual interview kek

[rotund helm]

cringe

[crimson shale]

their whole application is terrible

[visual lagoon]

I didn't notice anything as abnormal as that. What else were there?

[drowsy sentinel]

i did

[stark crypt]

probably too early but do any companies hire for full-time roles for students graduating in Dec 2021 / start in Jan 2022?

[visual lagoon]

yes

[subtle helm]

Does anyone have a list of all the rotational early career software engineer jobs?

[wind acorn]

that's so cringe lol

[granite flax]

yes you should be concerned lol, hit up the school registrar or something? career center? needs to get fixed

[iron gate]

anyone have any experience interviewing with hbo/warnermedia?

[lucid kestrel]

Does anyone have expedia offer?

[worthy spear]

when do you guys apply for new grad roles if you are graduating December 2021

[tidal lynx]

graduated dec 2020, started mid aug honestly wish i had started a month earlier

[atomic pivot]

been answered a few times now but you can either start applying now and asking for a later start date or apply for next season

[stone monolith]

Computer decided to auto update 10 minutes before my interview

Fml

[quasi narwhal]

Join using your phone if possible

[proper wolf]

uhhh what is this job desc lol

[unreal shale]

anyone here have done bytedance interview for front end?

[late fossil]

good base for austin.

[woven quartz]

best case is to not give salary expectations

if they rly twist ur arm then go for 10-15% more than what the average says on blind/glassdoor/levels/whateveryoufind as a buffer

this is what i learned after having watched recruiters' videos on the subject

[azure gull]

Would it be a bad idea to start full time a week after final exams of my final semester

To give more context My class workload is very light so finals won’t be stressful at all

[tight ruin]

idk, probably a little, but I'm doing exactly that in May 😬

[mystic mica]

Why not give yourself some buffer time and like...relax? Unless you really need the money

Never understood why people wanna start full time so soon after school

You’ll never have the opportunity to chill for 1-2 months again

[azure gull]

True if we weren’t in a pandemic id be all for chilling for a few months

But I’m in Cali where there’s still a lot of restrictions so I’d actually be bored as hell

[mystic mica]

I mean even if there’s nothing to do outside you can still relax at home

Once you start working you’re gonna wish you had a month+ to relax, even if it means lounging around

[azure gull]

Ah

You’re probably right

Tbh I just really wanna be out of my parents house asap lol

[vapid river]

Start 2 weeks after

2 weeks is right abt when u get bored out of ur mind

[stone monolith]

ya after 2 weeks i devolve

no idea how my dad is retired and happy

[stone monolith]

overloading resume with keywords ✅
creating resume that speaks to your actual experience ❌

[digital carbon]

Networking like your life depends on it so that resume screening is never a problem 👌

Of course, I never did that

[kindred jetty]

Did anyone write the Tiktok OA on December 28 and get any sort of follow up communication?

[honest ruin]

anyone know what the process looks like for the three-round final amazon interview?

is it just three coding questions

[rose rivet]

anyone interview with rubrik?

[granite flax]

i don't think that screenshot implies an omniscient ATS filters out resumes based on buzzwords, it looks like some template is used to prepare a job posting

"no req approvals or postings will be approved without meeting minimum score of x" seems like the ATS (or some other software) has metrics that a posting (not candidates) needs to meet

"please search using these terms" -> your buzzwords are parsed and entered into a searchable database so recruiters/managers can filter based on who knows PHP;
so yes buzzwords are fine but not for the reason you think

[peak dirge]

Anyone here interview with Cameo? I have one coming up and would love to ask questions about the process!

[wind acorn]

cameo is sick good luck @peak dirge

[tranquil pebble]

I have an upcoming virtual onsite with Bloomberg. Any tips? Could anybody outline the questions they were asked and were the interviewers too focussed on optimal solutions/follow ups?

[silent knot]

networking is a pain in the rear.

never worked well form e

me

[cerulean pivot]

gl!! really cool product

[fresh cloud]

I'm honestly both too damn shy and i hate talking to people with an ulterior motive of trying to get them to refer me later on 😅

[olive lily]

don't talk to people for the ulterior motive of trying to get referrals - find people you think are interesting and try to befriend them - Also, look out for opportunities to help people where you can
https://giveandtakeinc.com/blog/culture/the-five-minute-favor/

https://www.bakadesuyo.com/2014/07/networking-tips/

[worthy spear]

damn u be spitting some good advice @olive lily

[sonic cave]

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/search/?currentJobId=2379781699&geoId=90000070&location=New York City Metropolitan Area
idk if new grad positiosn are filled but they recently posted it. 👍

[atomic pivot]

Weren't they close to full?

[karmic gulch]

did anyone take the MS new grad SDE interview today?

barely anyone I know got it here

[stark otter]

i have the first round tomo

[karmic gulch]

yeah same lol

kinda nervous

first interview ever

[atomic pivot]

I think some people have interviewed, try searching posts

[vapid river]

Just do LC tagged

Ez pass

[ornate charm]

Anyone have any tips for Microsoft on-site? Will leetcode tagged suffice?

[stone monolith]

I got an offer that’s double my return offer, so I’m considering reneging my return offer but I currently intern there 🥲 how do I rip the bandaid off?

[stark otter]

They shd be able to understand tbh

being honest might work

[iron gate]

for frontend dev positions, do they usually expect you to do your interview in JS

[unreal shale]

I think it depends, if your question involve js thing (closure, etc) then yes, if not you should ask your interviewer if you can do it in other languages

Where are you applying?

[worthy spear]

anyone do better.com oa?

[iron gate]

HBO, with their User Experience team

[stone monolith]

make HBO max app better

[iron gate]

so definitely very frontend heavy stuff which is why i was wondering

lmaooooo

[stone monolith]

I would ask if you can use the language you feel most comfortable in

[unreal shale]

I feel u mate, I always use python for leetcode, but in front end interview idk if it's feasible or not

[woven quartz]

Thats the name of the game my dood, they would fire u in an instant if they needed to so dw too much about it

[unreal shale]

My experience is some interviewer give question snippet in js so you have no other choic

[iron gate]

makes sense

i mean if JS is in the job description then they would expect you to know how to write it

im just too comfortable doing LC in Python

[lime lotus]

But they would ask you for more front-end problems - fetching api data, et cetera; not about data structures, right??

[iron gate]

probably

not sure what exact questions they would ask

[lime lotus]

What about web design? There's for sure teams that work mostly with html and css

[iron gate]

Doing a whiteboard problem in html has to suck

I've taken OAs before for frontend where you have to align some divs in a certain way through CSS

[hallow wyvern]

wtf that sounds like a nightmare

[grand tangle]

Did anyone have an OA, then a 1 hour phone interview and then a 4 hour final interview for Amazon ?

[lime lotus]

display: flex; or display: grid; lol

And was that for a big tech company?

[iron gate]

IBM

[lime lotus]

Nothing about data structures?

[iron gate]

there was a hashmap question in there

so i dont think they’re off the table, but probably nothing like dynamic programming stuff i hope

[lime lotus]

(can I send a link here - for the ibm website)

?

[iron gate]

what do you mean?

[lime lotus]

The job you applied was one similar to this one or mostly front-end related (not UI related too)?
https://careers.ibm.com/ShowJob/Id/1061447/IBM-UI-Front-end-Developer-(m-w-x)/

[iron gate]

oh gotcha

yeah it was a Front End Dev intern position

pretty similar to that job position yeah

[lime lotus]

Did it take much time to get a response?

My situation is the following: I will do an internship in march, and I will get gradated in July. I wanna apply for a job once I graduate but for this bog tech companies we should apply way before right?

[iron gate]

it took me a few weeks to get a response

i would apply well before graduation if you're looking to start work right after

[lime lotus]

Like in may/ june?

And I hope this jobs opportunities are remote xD

[iron gate]

i mean there's nothing stopping you from applying right now

the interview process takes a while and at least you'll have a pretty good buffer to get something lined up when you graduate

[lime lotus]

But if I would get an interview during this next couple months and, depending on if I get accepted / rejected, I won't be able to apply again in june/ july right?

They will see that it would be the 2nd time applying

[iron gate]

depends on the company but either you'll end up potentially getting rejected now or potentially rejected later down the line

[lime lotus]

That's why I think it's safer to apply on a date closer to my graduate day

[iron gate]

i would keep in mind that some companies don't review applications for months on end

and the interview process can also be long too

[lime lotus]

So, in a month I will apply 🙂

Appreciate the feedback

[iron gate]

for sure, best of luck my dude

[lime lotus]

I will eventually ask for more advice eheh thanks

[snow kayak]

Second engineer this week reached out for a role post-grad due to my data background. Data science is looking like a good industry to go into after undergrad.

[wild topaz]

anyone know anything about ibm's behavioral interview? or their automation engineer technical

[olive lily]

Anyone get Microsoft's codility assessment?

[shrewd blade]

on average how long does it take to hear back after amazon final?

[tired bay]

Like a week usually next M or W portal will update

[visual lagoon]

In the email it says 5 business days

[broken raptor]

Anyone have thoughts on AGM Infra java bootcamp please share!! thanks

can't find any info on it

[snow kayak]

https://jobs.disneycareers.com/job/new-york/associate-software-engineer/391/18634335

[visual lagoon]

I put "N/A" in their nickname field because it was required and I just go by my real name. Maybe I should have not.

[zealous grail]

citadel hackerrank people. pls provide guidance

[wind acorn]

wtf is that novetta offer in DC for new grad?

if so that base is insane

[balmy nest]

Hi, did anyone interview for Software developer role at square?

[snow kayak]

I’d move to DC so fast for a 180k base salary

[granite flax]

i would storm the white house in DC for 180

[fresh cloud]

Ikr, god i wish that were me

[fresh cloud]

Are they actually following up with people? I thought jack dorsey's motto was "hakuna matata, always ghost"

[azure gull]

How is it living in DC anyway

Sounds like there’d be a lot of stuff to do there

[real walrus]

The air feels suffocating even when it’s raining

It’s genuinely hard to tell whether I’m hot or cold in DC when it rains

[azure gull]

Sheesh

[grizzled moth]

Has anyone done the technical assessment at Visa for the Global Software Engineer position?

[main verge]

Does anyone have experience doing interviews for IMC Trading?

[dapper vale]

Whatever u do tell them that they're ur first choice

I passed the on-site but got rejected after hiring manager bc they asked "if you have 5 offers including us how would you decide" and my dumb ass said IMC is near the top of my list but I would have to consider all the factors

🤡

[worthy cedar]

wait this isn't what ur supposed to say?
what if they lowball ur offer if u make it sound like it's for sure what u'd choose?

[dapper vale]

Exactly my reasoning

But the loss in value for them to reject me and replace me with someone who's willing to absolutely sign is so little

[real walrus]

What were your other offers

The reject either hurt a lot or u chillin based on the other offers

[dapper vale]

Had capital one as a backup, but that was like 4 months ago and I'm still recruiting so def hurts lmao

[fresh cloud]

Question: When an app asks "if you were referred by a current employee, what is the employees name?" Can you put the name of whoever you saw who posted this job posting on their linkedin but you havent ever actually talked to them?

I'm not sure if "referred" means that you heard about the job opportunity from that person or if its only when they actually put in a referral for you...

[visual lagoon]

..

[grave gull]

wait i answered this but got an offer tho

[dapper vale]

Wait rlly

[proper wolf]

no i dont think so

[grave gull]

ya @dapper vale i told them "one of my top choices"

i think it's how you package it though, i had a laundry list of reasons why i wanted to go there

[dapper vale]

Rip

Yeah I think I was a bit too aloof

Just curious did you end up accepting

[grave gull]

nope

[dapper vale]

sometimes I wonder how life would've been different if I got the offer

Yolo it is what it is

[main verge]

Ah thanks for the replies everyone.
I was more curious about the onsites. I'm not super comfortable with C++ but I only had the option of C++/Java for the OA, I heard that the onsite interview has less coding for IMC. Is this true?

[dapper vale]

I did it in Java and it was more like a design problem

Where you work with the engineers to design and code a solution

Not LC style

Honestly hardest part is thinking of a design but if u talk to the engineers they'll help u

[main verge]

Ah okay, would you say the code required to complete the solution is very basic? I'm honestly not confident in C++ 😐

[dry mural]

is it actually like that?

im moving to nova this summer

LOL

[dapper vale]

Oh I wouldn't recommend doing it in C++ unless you're really comfortable with it. Did they give u the option of Java

[feral sandal]

nah its not that bad
ive lived here all my life

[main verge]

So if I'm not confident in both C++/Java, it would be hard for me I guess right haha

[real walrus]

I’m spoiled by CA weather so take my opinion with a grain of salt

[dry mural]

bro

[real walrus]

I’m not used to any humidity

[dry mural]

im from Los Angeles

LMAO

FUCK

[real walrus]

Oh gl

[feral sandal]

oh the humidity’s def gonna kill you if you’re not used to it

[dry mural]

f

[dapper vale]

Ahhh yeah you'll want to brush up on either C++ or Java then. Good practice would be implementing a hashmap or doing some easy system design questions on LC

[main verge]

Alright sounds fair, thanks for the input!

[flint halo]

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[last linden]

only real DC mfs know to sleep on the green line with one eye open

[dry mural]

LOL

[balmy nest]

Looks like they have ghosted me too.

[acoustic venture]

Anyone have advice for second round Oracle interviews with the Database and Systems team?

[woeful dew]

Anyone got any response for Amazon's Data Engineer 2021 position?

[snow kayak]

https://uncubed.com/jobs/flow-traders/job/466282-trading-devops-engineer

[plucky hinge]

I passed final round but they have team matching after and that’s actually taking the longest, would not be surprised if it didn’t work out ☹️

[stone monolith]

It me, and yeah it’s all base and I already had 3 competing offers. The recruiter said what would it take to bring me on and I said 180 since CoL is way higher than here in IA, and MSFT and DD (still interviewing but i’m being optimistic) have offers that are in a similar range factoring in COL. I also let the recruiter know that I would be losing RSUs and the gains. So she said “okay cool” and wrote me the offer as such

And the bonus is because I already have a security clearance. Taxes are going to suuuuck in 2022. 🤌

[digital carbon]

Recruiters actually being reasonable? We love to see it

[stone monolith]

Oh yeah. Helps when you have some leverage and I know that I can bail if the offer is trash

[digital carbon]

Yea you had good leverage and the right reasons for negotiating, so those definitely did help it seems

[stone monolith]

Oh yeah. Did a ton of research before hand too. Also I got lowballed pretty hard by my internship when I got my conversion offer.

Had to look for something that could put food on the table

[woeful dew]

Anyone here with some experience with Akuna Capital Quant Dynamic OA?

[cerulean mist]

Has anyone done the 1 hour technical phone interview for the Pure Storage SWE New Grad position?

[unkempt echo]

@cursive loom

sup

[cursive loom]

wtf

sup

the sky

[snow kayak]

https://boards.greenhouse.io/better/jobs/2663014

[cerulean mist]

Damn they sent that OA quick

[verbal flame]

has anyone attempted Better.com OA?

[severe jay]

anyone know if better.com sponsors TN’s for Canadians ?

[rocky moon]

just found an invite for a phone screen in my spam folder, thanks gmail

[balmy nest]

Hi guys

I have amazon 1 round interview coming up for SDE new grad position

can anyone please share their interview exp

[jovial hedge]

has anyone done an OA from citi?

[rocky nacelle]

hey i got an invite for oa1 from amazon
after a long time
any idea what to expect

[bleak mica]

Debugging? Lol. Mine was fairly simple. Like a > that should have been a <. That kinda stuff.

But I don't think everyone's is that easy.

[proud fog]

I got rejected from Amazon. No OA No interview. Can I use another account to apply again?

[icy hare]

does anyone have any tips on understanding everything in an offer letter?
Trying to see if there are any articles online about this sort of stuff

[patent trail]

Yes, you can.
They'll merge your accounts, though, if they find same information.

[kindred jetty]

I recently got an interview question: given a small string s and a large string l, find the maximum number of consecutive occurrences of s in l

can someone help me understand the solution to that question

[patent trail]

It is just string matching.
Look up the Z-algorithm. Should be doable in O(n).

[haughty heath]

use a sliding window of size s, and go through string l

[kindred jetty]

okay I'll check it out thanks

[kindred jetty]

this is kind of what I did, and I passed all the test cases, but I want to be able to prove why this works

[fresh cloud]

God bless you for sharing these postings, btw.

[vague shard]

Hello what's the best source to study system design principles ?

[ornate charm]

Donnemartin primer

On GitHub ^

[ornate charm]

How long did it take to get the OA fam

[cerulean mist]

10 mins

Prolly automatic

[raw belfry]

Anyone given pendo OA?

For internship

[hallow wyvern]

are problems posted from leetcode bot for OA and/or phone/final

[atomic pivot]

This is new grad channel

[grim trench]

How long does it take for Amazon reject to reflect in the portal?

[stone monolith]

I didn't get an email for a hot minute

I had to check the portal

Never going to be good enough for amazon tbh

[raw belfry]

Yeah... figured that out... sorry about that

[cerulean pivot]

theyre sourced off the company report metric on leetcode site

[open frigate]

hi did anyone get rejected by amazon straight up (without an OA)? i have previous internship experience at FANG, so not sure why I was rejected 😦

[visual lagoon]

There are people who are resume rejected. But of course no one knows the exact reason

[last linden]

the recruiter knows the exact reason

[visual lagoon]

ah yes. I mean those people who are rejected

[unkempt echo]

you weren’t lucky enough, they only hire you if you have at least 50 luck

[open frigate]

it was just strange to be rejected without even an OA? cus ik amazon is hiring a lot rn 😮

[visual lagoon]

Them hiring a lot doesn't mean everyone is going to get OA. Your resume could be a problem.

[open frigate]

any clue what type of "resume" probelms could be an issue? i've always used the same resume and have had success elsewhwer

[visual lagoon]

You can try #resume . Or, you could have been just unlucky.

[grand tangle]

Me

[mystic mica]

amazon hiring is literally monkeys throwing darts

[forest loom]

@open frigate I have been rejected twice without an OA

but I got on OA this time

and even landed an internship

I believe they normally reject first years

and also depends on whether or not they come to your career fair

[worthy spear]

What’s an OA?

[grand tangle]

Online Assessment

[ornate charm]

Amazon rejected me after the work style assessment OA😃

[verbal flame]

I feel like suing their university recruitment team...

[stark otter]

they look at all 3 OAs together its not based on OA3 alone

but they give out AOs very randomly, i havent got one yet and i applied in Aug

people with Oct applications have got offers

[hoary herald]

Yeah, as long as you pass a minimum threshold you will get the next OA, you can be failing both and still get OA3. I believe it's 2/7 for OA1, and 1/2 passing the public tests for OA2, they only look at the overall scoring once you finished all 3

[stark otter]

^^yup

[stark crypt]

folks involved in the kubernetes space!! have you undertaken any of CKA or CKAD certs?

[hoary herald]

Keep in mind OA2 also has the LP questions, I have no idea what kind of threshold they use for that

[dreamy violet]

when does 2022 grad jobs open ?

[topaz hollow]

When does Spotify start recruiting for new grad?

(@ me if you reply to this pls)

[ornate charm]

I got 100 on both OA 1 and 2 so it was def the work style fam

[viscid crater]

If I graduate in fall 2022, will companies care if I start applying for 2022 new grad roles that usually start when most ppl graduate (spring 2022).

[stark otter]

damn

thats just dumb from them

[slate crypt]

How hard is it to get a full time job as an international graduate with 0 internship experience?

[severe jay]

@topaz hollow Shopify doesn't have explicit new grad postings because of their whole ' you dont need university to succeed ' attitude. Your options are to either apply for an internship (which you can even as a graduate for the same reason) and then try to convert to full time or get some experience and apply for their regular dev roles

[topaz hollow]

i meant Spotify not Shopify

[severe jay]

@topaz hollow my bad misread

[ornate charm]

Maybe I fucked up on LP on oa2 who knows

Has anyone done the Microsoft final round? I’d like to ask some questions if possible!

[atomic pivot]

Difficult not impossible

[unborn swan]

@slate crypt Didn't you get an offer from Citrix tho ?

U should be fine, Citrix is really cool

[ocean geode]

Need more context than that

[slate crypt]

Don't think I will accept it

I'm going to try and direct my efforts elsewhere and it seems that I will likely graduate without internship experience

[atomic pivot]

?

Just accept it and renege later on if you have to

[slate crypt]

My college has a policy against reneging

[atomic pivot]

That’s usually only enforced if you found it through the school

And you’re a senior graduating

What are they gonna do? Bar you from next years career fair lol?

[slate crypt]

Idk, I plan to apply for masters to my current college so that might hurt my application

[atomic pivot]

apply to masters, ask if you can convert the fulltime to an internship

go on from there

[slate crypt]

Alright, thanks for the advice

[mystic mica]

i'm going to bet a lot of money that policy against reneging is only if you found the job through the college's job portal/handshake/career center/etc.

if you renege from somewhere and you got that job external (just applying through their website or something, no relation to your school) then that's completely different

even if you do renege a company that you got through handshake, the admissions department to your MS program is not going to ask the career center "hey did this person ever renege", it's not even something to worry about tbh

[crimson shale]

some schools def have a generic "renege = ban from career services" rule. you just gotta check each school's policy

[mystic mica]

yeah that's what i'm saying though

unless a company goes out of their way to somehow hunt a kid's school down and tell them "hey this kid reneged from our company"

it's fine

unless the offer was acquired through the school's career service(s)/handshake

[crimson shale]

a company has done exactly this to my friend

unlikely, but something to keep in mind

the company recruited heavily out of our school so had some ties to career services but the application was done outside of school resources

[mystic mica]

ah

rip

asshole company lol

well I don't think they should worry about it affecting their Masters application tho

like i doubt the career service will go tell the hiring committee "this kid reneged better not let him do a masters"

[edgy seal]

Me👆

Anyone who gave Twitch OA recently?

[paper hinge]

Ddi you guys just do the better.com codility?

tf is this

what kind of test cases are they running for 1 and 2

I checked all the edge cases myself and they passed

and they said the performance didnt matter

man this dogshit is fucking rigged

wait does this count when you are running the test cases before you submit?

Thats bullshit

if i knew that i wouldve run through by hand instead of doing it like in hackerrank

God fucking dammit

[olive lily]

well come to the fuck codility club

[coral burrow]

anyone know how much Confluent pays for new grad?

Recruiter just reached out to me and I was curious if it was worth

[cerulean pivot]

its good

definitely enter the process if u can

[cursive oasis]

it doesnt

those are just the results of the hidden test cases they have

[paper hinge]

shit tf are the hidden test cases then

i thought i covered them

[cursive oasis]

honestly idek

i hate how they dont tell u lol

[mystic mica]

codility is ass cus it has hidden cases

[cursive oasis]

yea

[paper hinge]

I dont really understand how much more hidden can they be

[mystic mica]

that's closer to cp than it is to a normal assessment

[paper hinge]

cause i tested the upper lower bounds, middle cases, longer input etc

all the ones i did were based on the specs too

[mystic mica]

there's always cases that you miss unless you're a perfect coder lol

[paper hinge]

I'm a perfect coder

[cursive oasis]

lol it be like dat sometimes

[paper hinge]

These FAANG companies and unicorns really missing out by ghosting me without giving me a phone screen SMH

Sucks for them

[cursive oasis]

lol 😆 😆 😆 😆

they dont deserve us

[paper hinge]

Bro im a genious no cap

[cursive oasis]

lol 😆

[paper hinge]

My teacher said I was gifted Bro

In 1st grade

[worthy spear]

😆

[cursive oasis]

one time i wrote a for loop without using autocomplete

lowkey built diff

[paper hinge]

Cap

Cap

Cap

[cursive oasis]

naa trust

im jus sick

2030 ill be ceo of fb

msg me

i got u

[paper hinge]

I'm 5'11 bro thats my only downfall

[cursive oasis]

bro no one has to know

[paper hinge]

I need to be 6' is it still possible to grow

[cursive oasis]

just add 1 extra inch

i mean idk

[paper hinge]

Aight

[cursive oasis]

i can try pulling u

[paper hinge]

Imma add 3 inches

[cursive oasis]

say less

we finna show them

[paper hinge]

Im gonna find Elon at the tesla parking lot and we gonna fight and whoever wins will become the CEO

I did the same to Bezos and I won

[cursive oasis]

is this jassy

[olive lily]

nah at-least cp tell you didn't get the answer - i much rather get some sort of penalty then no feedback lmao

[mystic mica]

wdym?

i'm saying cp also has hidden test cases

that's it

[olive lily]

that's not the issue - hacker rank as hidden cases too

[mystic mica]

hackerrank too

[olive lily]

it's that you don't get told if you get the problem or not

[mystic mica]

they're all ass

[olive lily]

that's wack as hell

i want to know how badly i messed up lmao- possibly get a chance to fix my code

[digital carbon]

codility is more real life tbh

hackerrank is less stressful tho

[olive lily]

except in real life you don't get problem solving style problems

you can just google the solution

what are they testing for?

[digital carbon]

I mean in the sense that in real life you have to write all tests yourself

no one is gonna be able to tell you "oh your code isn't gonna work for this case"

but yea I totally agree for LC problems it's kinda annoying lmao

[olive lily]

fair enough- but a lot of the time you are suing prebuilt libraries - your code is reviewed by your peers and - and lot of companies have some level of automated testing

I thought the whole point of lc style problem was to test your problem solving skills

+basic coding competence

I just feel like this detract from that

if they wanted to see how well i can code

they can just review my github or some shit - or maybe a take home project

[mystic mica]

it is what it is lol

LC is here to stay

for the time being

[olive lily]

yes but codility is worse than normal LC by a lot

[mystic mica]

by LC I meant lc-style assessments.

[olive lily]

yes - but if they are here to stay i would prefer if it wasn't shittier than it had to be lmao

oh well

[digital carbon]

yes you def have a point

[visual lagoon]

I just finished better.com and got 70 and 50 for 1 and 2. Was pretty shocked as well

I wonder if I was supposed filter out invalid inputs..

[grave gorge]

How were the questions? Like LC easy or medium or hard?

[visual lagoon]

2 easy 1 med

[paper hinge]

Im 0-7 in first round phone screens

Thats some BS

Please don't ignore me

[kindred grove]

this man is down bad

[paper hinge]

Thanks

For giving Me attention

[slim holly]

cool

[paper hinge]

https://www.strawpoll.me/42590596

[proper wolf]

if i went out for like 1 min to pee during a code signal proctored oa, is that instant disqualification?

[cerulean pivot]

no

[proper wolf]

thats good. i just did the 1, 2, 4 strat and it actually worked wish i had known about it months ago lol

[stark otter]

wait whats the strat

i got fucked hard even though i finished all ques with test cases

[frigid schooner]

Sup y’all

[proper wolf]

u can get 800+ by just completing question 1, 2, 4 without 3

[stark otter]

wtf

i got 770 something for completing all

my issue was that i jumped around a lot

tried finishing everything and then optimized to pass through tle

[stark otter]

so you dont even open q3?

[proper wolf]

i did but i didnt think i could solve it in time so i just submitted it straight away

[candid torrent]

Which position?

[mystic mica]

https://codesignal.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/general-coding-assessment-framework.pdf

Welcome to the FuTuRe of OAs 🤡

CoDeSiGnAl 😩😫💦✊🏻

There’s no strat, you pray you get a doable #3/4 and roll the fucking dice

The absolute state of recruiting in 2021

[stark otter]

????

how tf did i get 770 with all 4

oh

i see i didnt do all tle with 4th

i see

🤔

[dry walrus]

Has anybody taken Hudson River Trading OA?

[polar laurel]

@dry walrus Yes

GL HF it's 4 hards I think

Or 1 med 3 hards

[unkempt echo]

my HRT new grad OA was like 1 lc medium

think @polar laurel is talking about the intern one which was like 2 med 1 hard

[dry walrus]

My tests says it's 3 questions

[unkempt echo]

oh interesting

maybe they've changed it? I did mine in like september

[dry walrus]

Oh cool

It's not a New Grad position, it's for the Algo Software Developer

[unkempt echo]

this one?

[polar laurel]

@unkempt echo Im p sure I had 3-4 questions, which was hella hard.

Idk how much HRT FT is.

[severe jay]

yes applications seem to be coming out earlier and earlier this year so just keep your eyes peeled when the summer starts

[tall dune]

HRT ft around 400k

[urban cairn]

How good do you have to be at C++ for HRT new grad SWE interviews?

[urban cairn]

I saw up to 500k with negotiation. I think they were the highest this yr

[safe gale]

How much of that is taking into account signing bonus? Or is that base + yearly bonus?

[atomic pivot]

are you sure that's the standard offer right away?

I think there has to be negotiation with other HFT

they have the similar recruiting timelines

as tech

i think citadel is full

dont quote me

also this is new grad

timelines slightly different

new grad can typically be longer timelines

about?

im not going to a hft if ur wondering

[mortal temple]

400k is not standard offer right away

[atomic pivot]

there's a couple chads here that are

you can dm them

[urban cairn]

Base was 200, forgot the signing / yearly bonus. Probably pretty even

But I meant 500 including signing

[safe gale]

Ah, that makes sense

still pretty ridiculous though, yeah

although it's really the yr2/yr3 numbers that are more interesting imo, but we don't have them

[urban cairn]

Citadel had similar offer iirc. Looks like you need an offer from several of these top shops and then negotiate to get up in this range

True, and it's super volatile. Like in the first half of 2020, Jane Street beat their 2019 first half returns by 1000%

Probably caused the bonuses this yr to be outrageous

[safe gale]

yea I heard an optiver marble is worth something like 3x as much this year (2020)

[urban cairn]

Citsec also had their best year ever. Good year for HFTs

[eager root]

Has anyone got offer from C3.ai?

[woven quartz]

what???

[true gyro]

Hey Guys

looking for leetcode buddy

[unkempt echo]

hrt recurring loosely follows 275/350/450

[edgy furnace]

My company in Princeton, NJ is hiring for java full stack developer. 0-1 year work experience. Email your resume to [e-mail]

[worthy spear]

Anyone has experience working at a startup? If so, how was it?

[worthy spear]

Do you think it's worth it?

@brisk jolt not sure I'm going through the hiring process rn but for the expectations it's a lot that I don't know 😂 but I think it'll be good for me. I just don't want to end up in a place where I'm basically doing nothing.

[real walrus]

great! everybody has different notions of what startup means... some think its like 10 developers max while others consider <500 employees as a startup. its important to distinguish b/w them and not every startup is the same

for instance, snowflake is a startup, but it has a lot of experienced engineers from Google,researchers from academia,etc. and has a ton of opportunity for impact + growth

[crimson shale]

I interned at a startup and it was a great experience. I was given real tasks that have lead to a lot of learning and also great talking points for interviews! I think its super important to get a good feel for the company. You are trying to find a match just as much as they are!

[dusky plover]

We're really ramping up our hiring this year at SpaceX. Extra consideration if you have a clearance. DM me if you are interested! 🚀

[karmic jolt]

@worthy spear I had my most educational experiences at startups vs larger companies however, it is super case by case like other people have mentioned. The startups I had poached senior people from places like LinkedIn / Google and had people from ivies otherwise. Super beneficial in terms of gaining exposure and broader perspectives to entire tech stacks while having guidance of what trade offs are positive / not good for longer term. If the startup isn't at around Series B / C funding though, I wouldn't expect any of these things, the startups best (imo) for people at our level are the ones that aren't scared about funding for at least over a year since it is less likely to skimp on the talent they need or make bad tradeoffs from cut costing

At the larger company (also well-known but not Facebook / Google standard), it felt like exposure was tough and your focus is way smaller / politics started playing a way larger component whereas the startup was more focused on delivery. However, you are nearly guaranteed job security at this point especially since large companies typically don't like firing new grads compared to experienced people that have been stagnant especially in recession

[worthy spear]

Thanks guys! This helped a lot!

[sterile lion]

Does anyone know of any planned fully-remote new grad roles? Not really in a position to move to SF/Seattle/NY/DC right now.

[olive lily]

quora for sure
I would crtl +f - this document for 'remote': https://github.com/pittcsc/NewGrad-2021

[sterile lion]

I'll look at that. I've heard of some companies not listing remote and still offering it at the offer phase anyway, so I'll need to look deeper.

[jovial hedge]

Anyone here done an OA from citi before?

[magic sable]

Does anyone know if international students on CPT can receive 1099-Misc ?

[slim holly]

Disclaimer, the Amazon six months rule is total BS. get a new email, get to a new final

[limpid lichen]

anyone did yelp's 30 min coding test?

[smoky hornet]

Did you tried it ?

How?

[slim holly]

yup. 1 bombed final last month

[icy hare]

what does "club your emails" mean?

[fresh cloud]

They link your emails

[digital carbon]

Just curious what was the larger company

[slim holly]

Honestly don't know. i do see my former application as "No longer under consideration" under archived tab so they do club it

yeah exactly

[fresh cloud]

They do club your emails, but i haven't had my final yet. I bombed the final from last year.

[slim holly]

My point was don't wait six months, pick a new team and apply. Try a new email if you need too. Except its extremely bad, i don't think they hold it against you

[fresh cloud]

Probably only works if its a new position?

[cobalt cliff]

Try to contact the assessment team and the interview scheduling team

[sharp breach]

does anyone have experience using ziprecruiter to look for jobs?

[crimson shale]

netflix is hiring interns this year

apparently no plans for new grads still

[ebon belfry]

i just got application submitted for amazon, interviewed last thurs

final 3 rounds

[digital python]

got a coding challenge from HRT, what type of questions do they ask?

[wind acorn]

Square has fully-remote option for most (if not all) new grad roles

[boreal sequoia]

Do you guys reckon a lot more companies will open up apps in March and April for New Grad SWE positions?

[atomic pivot]

No one knows

[ebon belfry]

does moved to another job for Amazon mean offer usually? i might be screwed lmao

[foggy ginkgo]

I'm not sure and I don't think so.
Because big companies take time to process their applications. Either they are not hiring or they already rolled out.
Very few in my opinion.

Just my though. Nothing to be discouraged.

[fervent roost]

yes it is confirmed, congratulations, you will receive your offer letter by tomorrow or end of this week worst case

[olive lily]

it did for me

[ebon belfry]

oh boy, i just started a job at startup a month ago

[atomic pivot]

It’s hard to say. Hiring is all over the place this year. If we even had more information most likely we wouldn’t share lol

[ebon belfry]

lmao

stressed out, not sure what amazon tc is for seattle

might be 50% more than what i am at now tho

[fervent roost]

This is going to be your fastest resignation i guess

XD

[atomic pivot]

Just look it up it’s standard

[fervent roost]

Amazon offer is generally : 120 + 30 + 5 for first year and keeps increasing

[boreal sequoia]

Not necessarily big companies, companies in general...but damn 🥲

[atomic pivot]

3rd and 4th year much higher usually

[ebon belfry]

great. im at 95k with .0003125 equity in stock options. so that is like over 50% increase

[fervent roost]

nope its almost same for all years, you get signing bonus for first 2 years and less stocks, 3rd and 4th they give more stocks thats all

value is equivalent

[atomic pivot]

I calculate bonus as over 4 years

[fervent roost]

but stocks rise , signing bonus doesnt XD

[fervent roost]

oh cool

[ebon belfry]

@fervent roost is bonus up front or 12 month prorated

[atomic pivot]

Does amazon give perf bonus?

[fervent roost]

its signing bonus so you get it as soon as you join

if you leave, you owe them the amount :p

leave before 2 years that is

[ebon belfry]

leave by when?

oh

shit man im stressin lol. everyone at current place has been nice and everything, but salarywise i am going to be undervalued

and not as big of scope

[fervent roost]

nope, promotion is also hard to get, its a wierd place to work actually

[atomic pivot]

Ic ic

[olive lily]

defs unfortunate - but i would take it lmao

[atomic pivot]

Do u work there rn?

[ebon belfry]

i interviewed with the VP of Eng at my current place and the guy said he is looking for ppl to stay for 10 years not just a couple years....

[fervent roost]

nah my friends do, i have an interview tomorrow

[atomic pivot]

[fervent roost]

so i found out what i was getting into well beforehand

[atomic pivot]

You have to have incentives for someone to stay 10 years

[fervent roost]

Tell him you misheard it as 10 weeks XD

[ebon belfry]

lol man, i feel like such a piece of sht

i guess im in real life now

[pine parrot]

???????

who has 5.5 hr

zoom interviews

[tight ruin]

I had a two companies with final rounds roughly that long. Probably slightly shorter but not a ton

It was interviews with several people. Each like 45min-hour

[west skiff]

all my final round interviews were >5hrs, it's getting pretty standard now

[pine parrot]

really? damn

most of the ones i've done have been 1.5 - 2h long

[woven quartz]

thats pretty much a whole working day

[ornate charm]

Why does Microsoft send OAs to some but send first rounds to others?

[chrome sage]

Anyone did Intuit Karat video round recently?

[visual lagoon]

Do you think LC premium worth for Amazon FT prep?

[stone monolith]

can't hurt

pay 150 to potentially have a job that pays 100k+

[heavy hare]

you mean 120k base + 30k bonus + 5k stocks?

[visual lagoon]

Wasn't sure how different the LC premium list and those from discord bot, but thanks for the inputs

[ebon belfry]

yeah thats it

[azure gull]

At the end of the day, you have the right to do what’s best for you, leaving for the higher paying job doesn’t make you a piece of shit at all

[ebon belfry]

yeah i get that, just that the company im at rn hasnt been bad at all and everyone has been cool to me

[azure gull]

So what lol

[ebon belfry]

and i got so much swag ima have to just mail back or something idk lmao

[azure gull]

You still don’t owe them anything

Except the Swag I guess lmao

[tired bay]

Seems like life is just hitting you in gut but that much of a pay increase and resume value even if it’s short lived might be great

[ebon belfry]

i am really not as tough as i thought i was about this stuff lol

[tired bay]

Yeah it’s a life changing decision hard stuff to do but if u think u will regret it and always mentally think “what if” it will make your current situation worse over time gotta live life with no regrets or second thoughts imo

[azure gull]

At the end of the day, the startup will just find someone to replace you after you leave

[last linden]

i love making 300k+ just so uncle sam can anally ruin me

[ebon belfry]

the worst part is i really dont have anyone to ask for career guidance

like in person, related to tech

[azure gull]

Do think your coworkers will be upset that you left for a better paying job

[ebon belfry]

lmao no, i have barely met them. im not sure if it will affect future path crossings tho

its been all virtual. such a weird time we are in, barely feels real.

[vivid crow]

did anyone interview at Oracle recently??

[digital carbon]

I mean they probably would be at least a little if someone leaves after just a month

But I still agree on doing what's best for you

[dapper dock]

Then, to quote Queendome Come - "Get that bread, get that head, then leave, peace out."

[ebon belfry]

rofl

[digital python]

I got 100 , 12 , 100 for 1,2 and 3 respectively
shocked about 2

[woven scroll]

@digital python @visual lagoon did you guys take Codiilty's words literally when they said "correctness will be emphasized more than complexity" cuz I did and got a low-ish score too

[visual lagoon]

The result page had N/A for performance. So ye

[digital python]

I got 63% overall because of that shit, RIP

[digital python]

I tried different edge cases which I thought needed attention others idk what random shit they pulled off in their test cases

[woven scroll]

yeaaa not a fan of how we can't see test cases. I feel like if the point of these tests are to make an algorithm work, in the real world wouldn't we be able to diagnose the problem and debug our code to fix errors? I'm okay with a time limit, but hidden test cases...

[digital python]

no wonder people hate codility

[woven scroll]

yea never understood till now

[winged kelp]

I got 100 50 100 for better.com

I hate codility...

[grizzled moth]

how were the questions?

[winged kelp]

1 and 3 pretty simple

2 took most of my time

[grizzled moth]

you can use any language right?

[winged kelp]

Seems like most of them are there?

I didn't really check outside of looking if python was there

[grizzled moth]

Yeah the way that the email stated it, seemed like they chose the language for you lol

"The Code Challenge will cover one of the following programming languages: javascript, python, java 8/11, or C#"

[woven tinsel]

Is the better.com oa just leet code style questions or is it something different ?

[winged kelp]

the former

[grizzled moth]

but you cant see test cases

[winged kelp]

You get a few but majority are hidden

[grizzled moth]

they only give you 3 to work with and you have consider others

[winged kelp]

I do like that creating test cases is a lot more streamlined in it

tho not by much

[grizzled moth]

Do you guys think these OAs are handed out automatically?

[winged kelp]

prob

[woven tinsel]

Some do resume checks after the OA

It’s lame

[mental oak]

!process help

[feral marten]

You can only use this command in #2021_grad_process or #2021_intern_process

[fleet turret]

anyone know does better.com have a minimum score to move on?

[olive lily]

with most companies I'm pretty sure the cutoff score depends on how other ppl did and how many people they want to hire - there is usually no guaranteed score

probably be calculated after the 15th

[proper wolf]

they will probably filter it by the highest scores/people attending top universities

[unreal shale]

Can hacker rank run html css ?

[visual lagoon]

for what

[unreal shale]

Nah just asking, I got interview coming up in hacker rank for front end, wondering if we can code html there

[visual lagoon]

I don't know how they would test your html/css automatically, but they might have MCQs as well as free responses in hackerrank.

[quasi narwhal]

Yeah, it can

[unreal shale]

Got it thanks

[proper wolf]

it can, i did a hackerrank before that was asking me to render something using js/html/css

[fresh orbit]

Anyone got any insider knowledge on how strongly Amazon might be considering a WFH first mentality?

[hallow wyvern]

does anyone know if amazon cooldown is 6months from application date or 6months from rejection date

[sand nebula]

Tbh Amazon’s culture isn’t that compatible with wfh, I wouldn’t expect too much

[green cipher]

Did anyone get a follow-up after the OA from twitter?

[fervent roost]

100,100,100 mostly (I got it), my friend with 100,60,100 got rejected immediately

[dapper dock]

bruh

[mystic mica]

[cursive arrow]

How long after graduation can you apply for new grad roles?

[mystic mica]

most places will consider you until about a year after graduation

[cursive arrow]

Oh okay, thanks!

[chrome sage]

Rejection date

[grizzled moth]

https://www.newgrad.tech/

[cerulean pivot]

august 2021

[dry walrus]

has anyone completed HRT phone interview?
If yes, please DM

[mystic mica]

i thought i was the only one who had this problem lol

literally had to do c++14 and write some HFT-tier code

the same exact thing even in java wouldn't work

[wet rover]

what algo/data structure were you coding?

that made it impossible for java to run it but c++ to do?

[mystic mica]

it wasn't some special algo

i don't remember it anymore but i literally translated the code, python passed like 8/14, java passed 12/14, only c++ passed all

[steep oriole]

let me just flex my better.com OA here for no reason, I've been having a rough week lol

What does the "Impact" column here mean btw?

[haughty heath]

Anyone interviewed at yelp ?

[hoary herald]

it'll probably be WFH till the end of 2021 or later, seeing how the new varients are spreading and the vaccines aren't as effective on them

[proud fog]

The importance of three tasks. I remember it's Task1 == Task2 > Task3

[rose zodiac]

It does, if you invest all of your sign on in $GME

[limpid lichen]

how do I prepare for system design interview?