2021_grads

[rocky zinc]

Farmer for offer

[winged kelp]

To add to Dia's point, I got 6/7, perfect OA2 and was rejected

uhhhh

I think so? I don't really remember

[mystic mica]

i don't think so

[winged kelp]

I remember the one after OA3

[mystic mica]

there was a questionnaire after the work style sim in OA3 I believe

they framed it like "oh it's just a personality assessment" but it probably tested LPs

[winged kelp]

pretty sure I bombed OA3

[mystic mica]

guess they moved it around

[winged kelp]

Like, I don't really know what they were asking for

[mystic mica]

are you a 2020 grad?

[winged kelp]

2021

[mystic mica]

oh nvm

[winged kelp]

Yeah I'm still young 🙂

[mystic mica]

I asked cus a lot of 2020 grads seemed to get wrecked despite doing well on oa1/2

[winged kelp]

I see...

[normal tide]

Yes, there is

I did

DM me if you wanna know about Cisco interview

[cerulean pivot]

yea u can say ull sign rn if u raise x by y

[dusky robin]

Ive seen ppl do that with Fb

[cerulean pivot]

yup

[slate juniper]

Hey guys I'm a 4th year student in cs and I'm 1 term away from graduation (June 2021). I've done no co-ops or internships in cs, despite trying, and I'm unsure whether to just go ahead and graduate or perhaps pursue a relevant minor in the hopes of getting internship experience in the future. I think objectively speaking I'm not a particularly strong/competitive applicant, if that matters

master's also an option

thoughts/considerations?

[winged kelp]

Have you tried applying for stuff?

[slate juniper]

spent sep.-dec. applying to co-op positions for Jan 2021

so no for full time

[winged kelp]

Did you get a position for a coop?

[slate juniper]

no - 2 interviews and both feedback was "not competitive enough"

[winged kelp]

I would say if you can try and stay in school for longer for an internship, provided that it's not a financial burden,

I guess it depends on the expectations that you have

[stark yarrow]

Has anyone here heard back from blackrock after their OA’s ?

[chrome sage]

Has anyone given tiktok OA?

[mystic mica]

what horror stories?

[winged kelp]

Wait sorry it might just be my morning brain but I don’t quite follow what you are saying

I said to stay in school to find an internship at a company

Oh ok

Yeah I agree

Finding a new grad job sucks especially since I had an internship cancelled last summer

So I only had one place that I interned at that I hoped to never go back to

[worthy spear]

@worthy spear ayy rust fan here too

same tbh

[winged kelp]

What company was this?

I wouldn't have even tried

[worthy spear]

yikes

[fleet turret]

do you guys write cover letters? and do they work?

[winged kelp]

No, never but I am pretty sure it doesn't help if you have it versus not

[dark jewel]

How do you determine just by reading the request that it’ll take 400 hours?

[fleet turret]

hmm do yall know if if bloomberg will read cover letters when we apply?

[dark jewel]

Oh you basically need a referral to get an interview from cockroach. They had >10k applications for 3 new grad roles this year

[quaint agate]

its ok cockroach is an awful company name

[digital carbon]

Probably not tbh. A referral would hold more weight.

At least in big tech idt recruiters have the time to read them

[fleet turret]

bb has referrals?

[digital carbon]

Yes? Every company does and I've referred a few friends

[elder kernel]

Is there any company still hiring in winter?

[wind acorn]

wtf

wait one of those 3 spots went to someone on this discord

pog

[digital carbon]

I wonder if cockroachdb will get bigger than mongo eventually

[wind acorn]

also yikes @worthy spear shame on the company for not being more transparent on the interview process

They should've laid out the steps and what to expect timeline wise esp since it's so long

[wind acorn]

I wonder this too

I think Mongo's release of Atlas put it far ahead I wonder how long their free cluster tier will last

giving away free stuff is a great way to speed up developer adoption

[digital carbon]

yea cuz personally like having ACID guarantees is really nice, and SQL is very standardized

and it looks like cockroachdb among others have been pushing the envelope wrt performance in relational databases

exciting stuff

[digital carbon]

for sure lol

[worthy spear]

It did for me with some of my interviews

[viscid zenith]

is anyone giving tiktok OA?

[fast vapor]

@worthy spear were you responsible for that post on r/cscareerquestions? I could've sworn I saw something similar

[sand vale]

@viscid zenith i just gave mine, but ffed up because Hackerrank could not detect my camera for the first 30 mins

[cursive oasis]

https://discord.gg/D5thvYT7qC

[dark jewel]

There’s a section for unverified people, I doubt anyone is going to give you answers though

[azure gull]

Jesus Christ that’s a lot of interns and new grads

[vapid river]

Is there a msft one

[patent trail]

Anyone interviewed at Twitter for an SWE 2 position?

[mystic mica]

csMajors discord has a channel where people are posting all of these company discords

there was an ms one there

[vapid river]

thanks fams

[fleet turret]

is tiktok still hiring?

[crimson shale]

https://discord.gg/updMSsQzZe

[supple raptor]

seems like people are still getting OAs

[kindred jetty]

I solved 3/4 questions in the tiktok OA today and passed 8/9 test cases in the fourth question

Are they likely to move forward with an interview?

[drowsy cloak]

Yes you did well

[plucky hinge]

Do you guys think it's a good idea to ask for an extension? I got an offer with a 2-week deadline but it was right during the holidays so I couldn't speed up any other processes

[digital carbon]

Doesn't hurt to ask

[plucky hinge]

Does anyone happen to have an example of an extension request?

[distant fossil]

anybody know what to expect for bloomberg virtual onsite?

[west skiff]

it's the standard 2 rounds with 2 engineers + manager/hr afterwards if you do well

[ruby crow]

ay that might've been me lmao

[quick lodge]

dang congrats @ruby crow! curious how's the difficulty of interviews at cockroach?

[ruby crow]

I thought they were pretty good/hard. Not impossible but it was a lot of back and forth with the interviewers on each one

2 system design interviews too which I really liked

[quick lodge]

oh wow! how many rounds do they conduct for interns?

[ruby crow]

i think their interviews for interns are same as new grad afaik

[quick lodge]

ah i see, nice! grats again! 🙂

[ruby crow]

thanks 🙂 I'm really excited to start

gl!!

[wind acorn]

@ruby crow pog

[ornate charm]

Anyone get c3.AI OA ??

[native saffron]

I got that. Although it look likes everyone gets it lol

[ornate charm]

Hmmm so literally everyone got that?!??

[blissful adder]

no, i did not get one

[ornate charm]

Yeah idk I’ve applied twice lmdao and got rejected first time

[ornate charm]

Did u receive a hackerrank officially yet after filling out the google form?

[rocky carbon]

is this for the c3.ai early professional position?

[native saffron]

not yet

just filled it out

[ornate charm]

Yes

[rocky carbon]

ah i was thinking about applying

hopefully its not too late

[native saffron]

Did u receive the hackerrank？

[ornate charm]

Nope I’m waitin I’m eager to quickly finish it

I rlly hope they send it today.

[native saffron]

👍

[rain rose]

has anyone heard of canadian new grads at amazon getting waitlisted?

[worthy spear]

anyone know what tiktok TC looks like?

[high thunder]

!salary bytedance

[feral marten]

Unable to locate data on Bytedance

[worthy spear]

are they the same?

i thought bytedance was china

[cerulean pivot]

bytedance is a chinese company yes

but its the same pay bands

as long as ur looking at bytedance sf salaries or w/e

[digital carbon]

https://www.levels.fyi/company/ByteDance/salaries/Software-Engineer/1-2/

[mystic mica]

use search lol, people were talking about it in the channel below I think

folks said their recruiter said 20-30% bonus, probably to make up for lack of stock

since no IPO (yet)

[worthy spear]

@mystic mica i tried, theres so many search results though

[vagrant raft]

What happens to tiktok stock if Bytedance sells them?

[mystic mica]

I think they’ll wanna hammer out that deal before any IPO happens

[digital carbon]

Would anything happen? You still hold some "stock" in tiktok regardless of an acquisition right

[spring verge]

Are there any good resources for figuring out housing in the expensive COL areas? how much should I be spending max on rent, what area to live, etc?

[ornate charm]

Got the hackerrank

[native saffron]

me too

[azure gull]

What’s the Bloomberg first round technical phone interview like? What should I expect

For software engineer new grad

[digital carbon]

Generally <10 min behavioral and 2 LC meds

[azure gull]

Ah

I honestly don’t do leetcode at all so I probably won’t succeed but I’ll give it a shot anyway

[digital carbon]

Just try it, you have nothing to lose

[half walrus]

Any idea on how stringent they are on getting the optimal solution?

[digital carbon]

Hmm it's probably pretty important since they don't ask like super hard questions imo

Most of the questions bloomberg asks are actual mediums and aren't like a gotcha question

[west skiff]

👀 I had LC hard on my phone screen and another LC hard during onsite

[digital carbon]

But you interviewed for senior engineer position

[west skiff]

SSE though, so new grad may be differ

yep

[digital carbon]

Yea I think it's a bit more lax for interns and new grads

[half walrus]

was it a easy-hard or a hard-hard (i.e. was it a popular highly upvoted hard)?

[digital carbon]

@west skiff ^

[west skiff]

both pretty difficult tbh, I needed hints from interviewer to get through em

for the onsite one, I didn't even have time to code it out - explaining my thought process was enough

[winged kelp]

I also got the C3.ai Hackerrank and finished it @ornate charm

[half walrus]

I see, what is the general consensus with respect to hints? Should you ask for them or wait for the interviewer if you get stuck? Also how many is too many?

[west skiff]

I always ask for help once I'm completely stuck, no point in wasting time floundering by yourself

[digital carbon]

Yea same. Also a little trick is you can try to read the interviewer's thoughts about your approach by asking "does it look like I'm on the right track?"
Which is not explicitly asking for a hint, but could still help

[west skiff]

the best interviews are collaborative sessions where you work on the problem together, just like how you would work on a problem together w/ your coworker

[half walrus]

Damn, I always thought you needed to be perfect and ask for 0 help lmao, been shooting myself in the foot

[unkempt echo]

pls treat interviews as a pair programming session with a coworker

[west skiff]

as an interviewer for my current company, if someone answered a LC hard without asking for hints it either means A) they've seen the Q before, or B) they are a wizard

rarely is it case B

[half walrus]

LC hard I get, but what about LC medium, is it still okay for these or should you really try to do it yourself

[digital carbon]

Some meds are harder than others. It's better to ask for a hint than waste 30min not making any progress

Even if it's a medium

[half walrus]

cool, takes a lot of pressure off

[fresh orbit]

Hey guys does anyone know where I can find the case studies for grokking's object oriented design interview course? In Java?

Like this: https://github.com/tssovi/grokking-the-object-oriented-design-interview
, but Java

[half walrus]

Yea see my dilemma is that I can get a solution to LC med's very quickly, but optimal takes me a bit more time. If I code up the brute force then that's taking away time from thinking about the optimal and vice versa

[unkempt echo]

feel like most interviews ive had the interviewer doesnt let me start coding until we've talked through and pseudocoded an optimal or good enough solution

[west skiff]

I always state the brute force, and then jump directly into thinking about optimal

[half walrus]

I see, makes sense. But what if you end up not getting optimal, would you have been better off just getting a working brute force solution?

[west skiff]

you should ask the interviewer if they want you to code the brute force, or go directly to optimal

most tell me to go straight to optimal since brute force proves very little in coding capabilities

[unkempt echo]

i think that depends on your interviewer

some value the thinking process of problem solving the correct solution, some value the quick implementation

i have always heard a working solution is better than no solution tho so prob prioritize getting something working down at the very least

[mystic mica]

get LC premium and grind every problem on the BB list

[cerulean pivot]

https://doordash.engineering/2020/12/29/new-cs-grad/

[digital carbon]

Why do they always show a picture of minified code

[mystic mica]

"I contacted a recruiter to express my interest in DoorDash and scheduled a quick call so I could learn more about their new grad software engineering opportunities and to go over the interview process"

[brisk stratus]

hey, guys, how is angelist

[digital carbon]

Yea I don't get that lmao

I guess they cold emailed and it worked out for them

[mystic mica]

like damn i didn't know it was that easy

[digital carbon]

But it's phrased weirdly

[mystic mica]

if only we tried that

[digital carbon]

Lmaooo

[mystic mica]

truly r/wowthanksimcured material

[digital carbon]

Hi, I like ur company. Pls give job.

Sincerely,
shrimp

[upper cave]

need money, gib job

[undone abyss]

hey guys i have an offer from oct i accepted and has an onboarding for late jan. But besides for giving my mailing address and doing the background check stuff. I have not heard anything from my recruiter(s), should I email them and if so what do i even email them? I just want to make sure everything is good for my onboarding. I emailed them once to get more information on the onboarding and they ignored/ghosted my email.

[fleet turret]

do they literally ask questions from that list?

[mystic mica]

FB and BB do, like 95% of the time

I wouldn't have recommended that if it was another company but for those two u literally just need to grind the list

[fleet turret]

nice, cant someone just memorize the solutions if they wanted to lol

[mystic mica]

I guess, that's pretty much what a lot of people try to do if they're short on time

but you need to be able to explain how you arrived at your answer/how you came up with it in the first place

you won't pass if you just ask zero questions to the interviewer and spit out the optimal solution

[fleet turret]

do you recommend to do the company tagged questions even if you dont have an interview with them?

[mystic mica]

I personally wouldn't, I'd just do blind 75 and practice in areas where you're weak on

although if you think you'll be able to get an interview with them in the future and you're targeting that company, then it could be worth doing I guess

[azure gull]

I don’t have lc premium 😦 how many questions are on the BB list?

[mystic mica]

there's a leetcode bot channel

[fleet turret]

how long will it take to complete the tagged questions, say u have like a week to prepare?

[mystic mica]

every list is different in length

[azure gull]

Oh boy that’s a lot of questions😂 Imma schedule my phone screen like a month away and do 1 question a day or something

I’ve honestly never done leetcode

[mystic mica]

if you have a week you can probably grind through the top 10, assuming you really try and understand them

but i'd take a month so you can hit through top 25

[fleet turret]

so like 3-4 problems a day?

[mystic mica]

lmao my guy, I don't know how you personally study so idk! do what works best for you

[azure gull]

Haha

[mystic mica]

a month is 30 days, if you have 30 days to do 25 problems i don't think that's 3-4 a day

[fleet turret]

haha thanks

[azure gull]

Thanks for the help @mystic mica my leetcode journey begins today I guess

Scheduled my interview for January 25 the grind begins...

[velvet kindle]

what do y'all think about starting new grad in Seattle vs San Francisco?

[supple raptor]

seattle COL probably lower

[blissful adder]

yeah i think if you adjust for taxes, col in seattle is prob like 10% cheaper

[cerulean pivot]

i haven’t heard anything and i start next week. just got my laptop today lol

[vocal carbon]

lol im moving to a diff country for work and have to quarantine for 10 days. no clue how im going to get my laptop

[mystic mica]

you should be fine as long as you signed the offer and submitted everything for the background check, for my current internship, it was like radio silence and then my laptop arrived 3 days before the first day

[light sage]

Uhhh, 80k for a new grad SWE role at an NYC startup is ridiculously low right? I'm not going insane?

Or is that an OK rate for a startup..

[blissful adder]

is any of that equity/do they expect you to work more than 8 hrs a day??

its low for nyc in general i feel like

[light sage]

There's stock but it's private still.. And no it's normal 8. Just wondering if startup tag really knocks that much off

[vocal carbon]

what stage of startup?

all the nyc startup offers i had were 120-150k ish cash and some stock(paper money lol)

but they were all fresh series a

so money in bank and ~10 employees

[wind acorn]

not ridiculously low but on the lower end. I would try and negotiate

any cool perks/benefits? i feel like benefits are overlooked on this discord (like 401k and such)

[mystic mica]

Agree with the above^, but if you're not able to negotiate, I would look into commuting from cheaper places like Queens/Brooklyn/even New Jersey

[near forge]

How hard is Amazon's OA1 debugging?
Any pointers before I take it?

[steel herald]

How familiar are you with Java

[near forge]

pretty ok with oop in general and have written some code in java as well

[flint barn]

Is everyone receiving 30 mins interview for Amazon full time?

[digital carbon]

Be fast, like very fast. If you get stuck on one question, move on and come back to it later.

The first question was some sorting algo for me and I couldn't find the bug, so I moved onto the rest of the questions, which were all much easier

Believe I got 6/7

[near forge]

alright, that's helpful. Thanks!

[wind acorn]

no iirc most people got 3 interviews

[light sage]

It's right after preseed so not A yet. I guess I'll think about it a bit more and try negotiating remote

[silver bone]

Do most startups do equity refreshers that stack on top of the initial grant or is it common for them to append to the end of the initial grant?

Startups/Unicorns

[wind acorn]

You should ask your recruiter since equity policies vary by company

[daring bough]

We like plants

Literally the reason

[cerulean pivot]

it’s funny ppl twist it

into something elitist

[daring bough]

😭

First juice and farmer

You can’t win

[digital carbon]

well tbf all the big farmers really do farm offers 👀

[elder kernel]

During the coding interview, what questions u should ask and shouldn't ask to pass the interview?

If I am stuck at some point, can I just ask for a hint from the interviewer?

[blissful adder]

I like to explain my thoughts surrounding what im stuck on and then see if theyll jump in

[supple raptor]

i usually read the question, then ask any clarifications and go over some quick examples, write out pseudo code in words, ask if they have any questions, then go to code it

and talk through the whole thing and make sure to mention the pros and cons of using diff data structures if applicable

[static knot]

Have a phone round with Jane Street but clueless on what kind of questions they favor or what preparation to do. Does anyone have advice? Any help/suggestion would be appreciated 🙂

[daring bough]

is this for swe

[static knot]

Yup

[daring bough]

you can ask @coral coral or me (I got offer for intern tho)

I would say the questions aren't rly algorithmically hard but you need to write rly clear and concise code

[static knot]

Have messaged you directly but thanks!

[ornate charm]

Anyone done 1 hour first round with c3.AI?

[kindred jetty]

thank you

[stoic bear]

I did, feel free to dm me

[jovial hedge]

has anyone done the hirevue for jpmc? i thought it was just an OA but it's asking for mic and camera access

[blissful adder]

they ask you to explain your answers after each question

[jovial hedge]

that makes sense, thanks to both of you

[half walrus]

how accurate is leetcode-bot with regards to company-specific questions? Debating whether to purchase premium

[west skiff]

should be exactly the same

i can screen cap the actual list for you if you dm me what you need

[blissful adder]

the homeboy

[ocean geode]

Hilarious

[worthy spear]

Can you work as a new grad while finishing your master? Like starting while you still have one semester (no classes)?

[winged kelp]

I think that depends on the specific program you are working on

some might let you, others might not

[worthy spear]

Do you mean the university program?

Or the company's one

[winged kelp]

university

[cerulean pivot]

im working as i finish undergrad

duno how they would know ur working

so dont think it would matter

[snow kayak]

cleaning out bookmarks and found this gem: http://j-delaney.github.io/easy-application/ companies with easy applications (not sure how updated this is)

[frank sentinel]

Anyone gave HireVue interview for JPMorgan Chase.If yes, can you please let me know the type of behavioral questions that are asked ?

[high thunder]

They only care if it gets in the way of your productivity at the company

[cerulean pivot]

he was saying the university i think

[high thunder]

UCF definitely wouldn’t mind LOL

[worthy spear]

https://www.levels.fyi/2020/?ref=home_page_banner

[digital carbon]

I love the salary transparency in this field

was talking to a SWE in their mid 30s last night, and he was under the impression that students from ivy leagues were offered more comp for the same position at the same company compared to students from no name schools

but having access to all this info fortunately prevents that from being a serious issue

[crimson shale]

How does levels sustain itself? Just through the negotiation services?

[drowsy sentinel]

has anyone done the IXL virtual onsite?

[half walrus]

Anyone here interview with Sunshine (previously Lumi Labs)?

[sacred tide]

I have

[azure gull]

Question: I graduate in May 2021 and accepted an offer that starts in mid August 2021, would it be wrong for me to lie on my resume that I graduate in December 2021 so I can apply for internships with other companies so that I have work for the summer

[cerulean pivot]

have u tried asking to just start earlier

[azure gull]

Yeah, they’re adamant about the start date because they bring in all new grads at the same time

I just really need something to occupy me for the summer

[cerulean pivot]

idk if u dont need the money i wouldnt do it :)

maybe ask in #781295278950055988

[autumn lynx]

do you guys know if hackerrank challenges auto submits your highest scored submission or just the latest one?

[winged kelp]

Don't hackerranks usually have only one try?

[quick lodge]

i think it's the latest one

[quick lodge]

dood meant, what happens when you submit the soln multiple times i think

lmaao

[winged kelp]

Then it's only the latest one

[unkempt echo]

"i regret not buying bitcoin"

[autumn lynx]

i fucked up. i got 100% on a question but was trying a different solution when the test auto submitted.

[quick lodge]

it happened to me as well on one of HRs

[autumn lynx]

sucks

did u get rejected

[half walrus]

@autumn lynx did you submit the code which got a 100%? If you submitted the 100%, but did not submit after tweaking, then HR will pass along the 100% - https://support.hackerrank.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001734147-Is-my-code-auto-submitted-if-the-Test-times-out-

[autumn lynx]

hm im not sure if i did submit

fml

[quick lodge]

yeah

[azure gull]

Why is Taleo still in business

That whole company needs to be erased from existence

Nvm they’re owned by oracle

Fuck taleo all my homies hate taleo

[digital carbon]

[cursive oasis]

workday needs to be deleted

[feral mantle]

you dont like having 16 workday accounts for job apps?

[cursive oasis]

i love it so much im jealous

i dont want anyone else to have as much fun as me

[light frigate]

Anyone know of any job lists for UK new grads?

[worthy spear]

Woo new years! yay

[old trail]

You have 2 summer internship offers and want to complete both so you ask one company to move to off-season

[worthy spear]

It depends which companies, some companies don't have dates so you can move without give reasons other simply don't move. What do you want to move?

[subtle field]

TargetJobs, BrightNetwork, Reed

LinkedIn as well

[light frigate]

Yeah I've looked on those sites as well as gradcracker but im looking for graduate schemes that start in 2021

[subtle field]

Most grad schemes closed their applications in November for 2021 position

[light frigate]

yeah i've got a quite a few applications still in progress, was just checking if maybe i missed some that are still open

because i found this site called otta and it had a few opportunities for jobs at places like starling so I just wanted to check

[azure gull]

It’s been 5 weeks since my final round interview with IBM, it’s safe to assume I’m not getting an offer right?

[vapid river]

nah, theres still hope

if they didnt send u reject yet, u could be on the backup list if someone declines their offer

[autumn lynx]

You should send a follow up email asap

[azure gull]

So my “recruiter” is the manager for the position and I sent a follow up email at the 2 week mark, would I be overdoing it if I sent another one?

[digital carbon]

No it wouldn't be overdoing it, they are very late in getting back to you

[winged kelp]

If it means anything, I interviewed with a company back in October and just now they are getting back to me

[azure gull]

Sounds good, thanks

[azure gull]

Ahh interesting, thanks

[meager sparrow]

has anyone interviewed with sambanova systems? :0

[supple raptor]

yes i got a leetcode hard in the interview

it was probably the most in depth interview i’ve had, he picked out every technology on my resume and asked how much i knew about them

then asked how i would implement an LFU cache

needless to say i didn’t pass

[meager sparrow]

o man that sounds rough... 😦

[meager sparrow]

was it just the phone or final? :0

[supple raptor]

phone the first one

[storm badge]

Is that an LRU or LFU cache

[supple raptor]

LFU way harder than LRU

Least frequently used

[patent cloak]

LFU cache is dummy hard

Esp for an interview like it’s a lot of code

[supple raptor]

yeah i looked it up after and i was like how the fuck did he expect me to come up with that

[half walrus]

even if you have seen it before its a lot of code lmao, if you didnt, well gg

[half walrus]

I also interviewed with them, and had a similar experience during the phone interview

[meager sparrow]

oh man, another leetcode hard question?

[half walrus]

yea, it was a while back so don't quite remember, but mine was a graph question

[meager sparrow]

ah i see, guess it's like a resume check and then some codeshare type of interview?

only one technical question i'm assuming? :0 unless they throw in more than one hard question haha

[mystic mica]

damn wtf even LRU cache is a shit ton of code if you haven't seen it before

if they ever want you to implement the doubly linked list yourself, good fucking luck in the span of an interview

LFU gg

[half walrus]

Well for me it was one hard question, as I didn't get it lmao. That said, hope you do well! I think just knowing that they give a bit harder questions will make you more prepared

[meager sparrow]

ah gotcha, haha thanks for the help everyone 😄 will try my best 😅

[supple raptor]

he was more asking what data structures i would use instead of actually coding the whole thing, hard either way tho

when i couldn’t initially figure it out i started talking about what i know of LRU caches (i’m a TA for comp organization we teach it) and he asked how i would implement that and it took me a min but i got it and then he was like “you could probably figure out LFU given another half hour but we’re out of time”

got the rejection a week later

[mystic mica]

ahh

i think you were just nervous

since you know lru cache

[supple raptor]

i also didn’t know how to implement LRU either i just knew the uses of it

[mystic mica]

oh LOL

F

[supple raptor]

but i was happy enough to have been able to figure it out on the spot

i’ve also completely forgotten to practice doubly linked lists questions when doing the hours of leetcode i’ve done

can’t remember another i needed to use it

[mystic mica]

you don't need to ever use it in real life except for leetcode interviews

that's the only reason to learn it

it used to be a legit LC hard but everyone and their mom knows it since apparently we're expected to code that shit in 30 min now so it's now a LC med

[quick lodge]

give it a couple of months and you'll see trapping rain water 2 getting tagged as LC Med

[mystic mica]

i'm already waiting for trapping rain water 3 to come out

[vocal carbon]

What algo does your mind use to cache the lru cache solution

[late kindle]

doubly linked list

[worthy spear]

i just copy paste it using the macro on my keyboard. 2 minutes

[safe fox]

Pretty sure i used DLL too

Bc idk ordered dict

[magic sable]

Are there any international students who have done their undergrad here and are planning to do their masters or have already done it? Please ping me. I have some questions

[digital carbon]

a friend of mine said one of his projects used angular, backbone, and knockout all in the same app 🤮

but the second project he worked on used react. I think both times he used java on the backend, not sure what framework tho

[last linden]

ben awad is going to have a field day with this

[digital carbon]

sucks to be a carrot farmer

[real walrus]

Knockout is ass

I had to refactor Knockout code into react and hated it

[austere horizon]

Peeps graduating in december 2021, when will you start applying?

July?

[granite flax]

I’m under the impression that u apply same time for the same academic year so you, along with may 2022 grads, can begin aug 2021

July is actually on time too lol, mad early

[atomic pivot]

you can apply now or along with may 2022 grads.

former, just ask for a later start date

[austere horizon]

Can't go wrong i suppose

Ty

[sweet vigil]

Anyone yet to get Amazon OA? Applied August 7th :/

[steep oriole]

There was a wave of New Grad OA's that came out around December 30.

[sweet vigil]

Yeah but I didn’t get it in that wave :/ Do y’all think there’s still a chance?

[digital ridge]

Applied on July 31st and still nothing 😂

[upper cave]

just to be sure, Jan/Feb is the typical hiring period for new grads graduating in April?

and after that its more of the smaller companies?

[high thunder]

Earlier

I signed in august 😳

[tired bay]

Yeah Fall prior is peak season

[upper cave]

aw ok i was under the impression it was like 4 months before... time to apply like a madman

[mystic mica]

u h h tech recruiting is lumped in with finance recruiting in terms of scheduling

[worthy spear]

the earlier the better

[mystic mica]

202x grads start recruiting in august of 202x - 1

peak is fall recruiting, some big companies have another wave in the spring

[ocean valve]

anyone interview with Sunshine

[keen onyx]

Did LinkedIn hire New Grads this season?

[elder bronze]

Did anyone recently take Amazon OA2?

How was that?

[worthy lake]

I applied at the end of October and got the QA at the end of December for Amazon new grad

But I failed in the second QA R.I.P.

[hallow ether]

no

[keen onyx]

Any possibility that they will?

[wooden tangle]

applying to tiktok today, here's hoping I hear back

[past remnant]

I applied for it early September but yet to receive the OA for it, I'm probably going to apply for the same position for the summer

[spiral lantern]

Anyone here took the HRT OA ?

[digital carbon]

Bruh 😂

It really do be that way huh

[digital carbon]

They didn't even give most of their interns return offers, so I doubt it

[spice belfry]

anyone hear if G/F will be hiring again in Jan?

[digital carbon]

Wait el camino health definitely sounds like a scam

https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/jrfwua/psa_fake_linkedin_job_postings/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

[carmine adder]

@jaunty oyster I got the same thing lmao

I checked my inbox to see if I applied previously and I never had a confirmation email or anything

[drowsy sentinel]

has anyone scheduled their virtual onsite with square?

[atomic pivot]

Did you do a phone interview?

[drowsy sentinel]

yeah i'm at the virtual onsite stage now. i sent in my availability a while ago and they never scheduled the interviews. i'm just a little worried because i have a deadline coming up

[half walrus]

Has anyone done Orchard onsite? How was it?

[autumn lynx]

bro what

i got a 848 on square codesignal and haven't heard anything

recruiting is cap

[unkempt echo]

for a lot of companies, the score doesnt matter past some threshold

its just a pre resume screener

i.e. robinhood

[autumn lynx]

they haven't even viewed my profile yet 😍

[late kindle]

Has anyone else done 3 1hr Technical Interviews + 1 30 minute Behavioral Hiring Manager interview with TikTok?

I thought the offer would be given after the 3 Technical Interviews, and from what I've heard the Hiring Manager interview could be technical as well (although my recruited did specify that it was behavioral).

[ornate charm]

Anyone know what the first round technical interview from Bloomberg is like? Just LC mediums right?

[old trail]

FB is mainly just taking return interns, has been like that for a year or two now

[digital carbon]

phone interview or virtual onsite?

actually, either way it's usually 2 LC meds

or 1 problem with follow ups

study LC tagged questions and you should be good to go

[fleet turret]

can companies tell if u used a different email to apply?

[high thunder]

given enough personal info like name, bday, address, school, one could figure it out.

[worthy lake]

Yeah it's really obvious tbh; don't try it lol

[mystic mica]

it's conceivable that there's people with the same name, bday, and go to the same school, imo you'd only have to change your address and phone # but, they probably have other tricks to tie accounts together, like where you've worked, and any other info you entered previously like linkedin, github, etc.

I've heard of people successfully making a new account but more often than not, most systems will just merge the two

[vapid river]

anyone know new grad swe tc is for Orchard?

[worthy spear]

Started my job at Microsoft today 💯

[high thunder]

Congrats

[nocturne relic]

Anyone know what roblox process is like? Just finished my virtual onsite today

[arctic drift]

lots of waiting

[nocturne relic]

Yea the recruiter said they're aiming for end of month

[arctic drift]

that's about it

[elder bronze]

How was it ?

[worthy lake]

The debugging test was fine. But the second QA had 2 leetcode mediums

But I wasn't prepared because I didn't do much leetcoding after accepting an offer somewhere else

[elder bronze]

Did you get the reject after OA2 or you have got it after OA3?

[worthy lake]

Nah I got rejected after QA2

Didn't get to the 3rd QA

[elder bronze]

Oh okay. Thanks for the information!

[near forge]

Did anyone else get Honeywell's self paced interview invite for recent grad position? If so, any idea on what it is? Can't find any info and they don't tell it upfront either.

[ocean geode]

@autumn lynx would disagree with that

[steep oriole]

it's just a bunch of text-based questions about your status (university, graduation date, etc)

basically like answering questions that the chatbot asks through text

my self paced interview ended when I answered yes to "do you require visa sponsorship in the future"...

[near forge]

Thanks for answering

[steep oriole]

np! dm me what they ask cuz I wanna know early if they're gonna reject me because of my visa status

[autumn lynx]

Yea I do it all the time. It’s actually worked a bunch of times

[mystic mica]

Do you only use a different email? You also change # and address right

I feel like lot of systems will merge easily if they catch a whiff of similarity

[digital carbon]

Do you include linkedin or github links on your resume? Or do you literally just change your email and hope a different recruiter sees the resume lol

[worthy spear]

anyone do anything for orchard ?

[worthy lake]

Jeez u finesse hard then

Cause anyone I've asked were ghosted with their second emails

[autumn lynx]

I just change the email on the website. Not my resume. Most of the time it’s a different recruiter anyways

I mean who knows but it’s worked like a couple times tbh I was over exaggerating

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it tho. Just be like I accidentally reapplied

[past mantle]

anybody know how to study for object oriented design interviews?

[worthy lake]

But I always thought that they saved ur personal information in their database

[digital carbon]

Interesting that the ATS doesn't flag the application for similarities to a past application

if it works, it works 🤷‍♂️

[half walrus]

@worthy spear I've done OA and have onsite scheduled

[worthy spear]

how was the OA?

[half walrus]

Took it way back in early December so don't remember much. It was three questions, I would say first is LC easy, and then last two are LC mediums

[dreamy violet]

Has anyone done the 3 interviews at amazon after OA? What should I expect? Any tips?🙂

[hallow ether]

anyone know anything about rubrik?

how are they and whats their new grad offer?

[atomic badge]

How long to wait for recruiter reply before thinking I am being ghosted lol

[vapid river]

Everyones prob in holiday break mode still

Lotta backlog to go thru

[digital carbon]

rubrik is a very reputable company in tech

I don't know exactly what they work on, but I've heard their hiring bar is high

[karmic saddle]

yup I was one of the interns this past summer...got an approval from the manager but didn't get the offer so pretty sure they're not hiring new grads this time

[atomic pivot]

ive been rejected every year

[granite pewter]

educative.io

[half walrus]

bruh I had a phone interview scheduled with BB today, but got ghosted. has this happened to anyone?

[west skiff]

as in no one showed up?

email your recruiter and let em know what happened

[half walrus]

yea no one showed up, yup I emailed my recruiter. Just didn't expect this for BB lol

you were ghosted today?

oh what, did they reject you or move it to another date?

damn, okay now I feel less bad lol

weird, idk maybe they filled up or somethin

oh no, I applied to US

[quick lodge]

does honeywell sponsor?

[mystic mica]

I hope they’re a very separate division from Honeywell UOP, who rescinded people’s offers 2 weeks before their start date, after most had already moved to new cities

Massive yikes and a warning to all of you to always be on guard

[digital carbon]

Holy shit

Pushing back like more than 3 months

Then cancelling

[severe jay]

anyone STILL waiting for a response from Roblox after interviewing in Oct/Nov?

[azure gull]

That’s fucking terrible wtf

Fuck Honeywell all my homies hate Honeywell

[blazing compass]

is it a bad sign if I sent a followup email 2 weeks after onsite interview right before Christmas and the recruiter responds immediately to schedule a call for tomorrow?

[ivory trench]

anyone interviewed with Coinbase?

[storm badge]

Coinbase what position

[wind acorn]

good luck!

[fleet turret]

do u get ghosted sometimes after doing this tho?

should we apply to jobs even though we dont meet the bonus Qualifications?

[old trail]

its better to apply to everything and see if they will reject you than to never apply at all and never know

it usually doesn't take too long to complete a single application

[wet creek]

does anyone know if the honeywell sponsor ??

[vapid river]

Whats more impressive, solving iteratively or recursively, given that both have same complexity

[balmy depot]

I feel like at that point neither, just make clear that you know you could solve either way, but are choosing x way for the sake of demonstration

I’d personally bias towards recursion in that case though, since there’s some people who are scared of it/avoid it, shows you’re totally good with it

[random knot]

there are a lot of problems where the the recursive solution is actually much easier

so it rly depends

[velvet glacier]

Anyone interview for the OCI (VMCP team) in the last 6 months? Had a few questions

[tired bay]

Datadog reopened New Grad role

[atomic pivot]

time to get ghosted again

[drowsy sentinel]

has anyone here interviewed with datadog?

[patent trail]

It doesn't.

[keen onyx]

Do you guys wait for the recruiter to contact you after the interviews ?

Or wait for a buffer period and contact them yourself?

[drowsy sentinel]

I usually wait a week before contacting them

[wet creek]

okayy... anticipating rejection already. Thanks.

[severe jay]

I think their original position was intended for May 2020 or Dec 2020 grads, this one is for May 2021 grads

[shrewd blade]

what's lp?

ppl keep saying lp but idk what it means

[unkempt echo]

amazon's leadership principles

its how they turn amazon employees into a cult

[shrewd blade]

gotcha.. thanks

[digital ridge]

Hey, I just received a 45min interview request from tiktok. Don’t know what it’s about. Did anyone else have this round?

^ this is after my 3 technical rounds

[drowsy ore]

@digital ridge after how many days did you get the interview request? I am done with my 3 rounds as well so just wanted to know

[digital ridge]

I had mine on 30th December

[drowsy ore]

oh ok cool thanks 👍

I am not sure as I haven't been sent any but I saw on Blind that people were interviewed about information specific to the position too. Since my 3 interviews just had leetcode questions, I would assume this interview will have that

[digital ridge]

Information specific to the position? What’s that? In a later email recruiter just mentioned that it will be a general interview with hiring manager.
I don’t know what to expect from that

[mystic mica]

probably a hiring manager round that's gonna be behavioral, but there could be LC thrown in

this is what I got from my recruiter

[digital ridge]

Oh thanks!

[mystic mica]

i've heard of people not getting asked LC for the last round, but you should prep for everything of course

[quick lodge]

off topic but did uber ATG rescind new grad offers?

[digital ridge]

“This is a round of general interview talking with the hiring manager”
This is what I got from my recruiter 😂

[mystic mica]

I graduated last year so i'm not exactly in the new grad pipeline, so maybe it's a little different for me

most ppl here seem to only do 3 lc rounds

[last linden]

does tiktok only consider new grads to be 6 months out of uni

[digital ridge]

Oh, thanks for the reply!

[mystic mica]

yes, cus I applied to their new grad roles and asked the recruiter over the phone, she was like "yeah since you graduated before Dec 2020, you're not in the new grad pipeline"

[last linden]

whack, i thought 1 year was typical

[mystic mica]

so luckily they just moved me to the normal loop instead of rejecting based on that condition

[fleet turret]

is datadog very competitive?

[vague shard]

So people who have graduated in December 2020 will be considered for the new grad role ?

[fleet turret]

did u write a cover letter for them?

[near finch]

Hi! Has anyone on here ever intervened with Apple?

[tired bay]

It’s smaller company that a lot of people know about so yeah

[drowsy sentinel]

nope. i applied to them via jumpstart back in september and just heard back from them yesterday

[jovial hedge]

anyone done any of the SAP assessments? there's a frontend, backend, and full stack assessment and idk which to pick

[winged kelp]

I did backend @jovial hedge

feel free to dm about it if you have questions

[jovial hedge]

thanks, i'll dm you

[patent cloak]

@jovial hedge their new grad is full (waitlist as of two months ago). Unless you have time to kill, it’s not worth doing the OA

[jovial hedge]

Yea my email said it'd be for a Jan 2022 start. I don't have any other OA's to do so I figured I'd do it anyway lol

[patent cloak]

Ahh gotcha, go for it then haha. Make sure you know SQL 🤫 (if you don’t pick frontend)

[winged kelp]

Yeah I got waitlisted

[late kindle]

@digital ridge I did the same interview and its the team-matching interview with the Hiring Manager

[fresh cloud]

How was it?

[digital ridge]

Can I dm you for a few more questions ?

[atomic badge]

Debating between : Apple ICT3 (Cupertino), Twitter New grad SWE1 (Seattle), Bloomberg - SWE (NY) and OCI IC2 (Seattle) - all are backend SWE roles. Know the teams in Apple and Twitter as it was team specific application. My priorities are in the order - resume value for future, interesting work, scope for growth/TC increase, WLB/work culture, benefits. Please help guys!

[tight ruin]

Have offers for each?

Simpler but one idea you could do is list the things you mentioned for each company in order side by side. Also maybe a list of general pros and cons. I that could help narrow it down.

[digital carbon]

@atomic badge how do you know Bloomberg is for a backend role if it wasn't a team specific application?

Oh nvm

[autumn lynx]

How tf

[digital carbon]

I guess you know it's backend, just not the specific team

Given the priorities, I'd say Apple or Twitter

[autumn lynx]

What team was it for Apple

[unkempt echo]

Apple >> Twitter > Bloomberg > oci

[crimson shale]

Apple is for sure the best imo

[candid dagger]

I received new grad offer and I also got offer for separate SDE 1 with AWS(recruiter reached out). However, both offers are same. Is this normal? I thought SDE 1 compensation is more than New grad. Can anyone suggest if I can negotiate? And what should I say for negotiation?

[daring bough]

I thought SDE 1 = new grad

[candid dagger]

Technically yes!! But I have seen people saying SDE 1 role compensation is higher than new grad sde 1

Yeah I did inform them about new grad because new grad deadline was approaching. Was that a mistake?

Is there a way I can ask them for better compensation?

I have Walmart offer but that is for Dallas and is way too less already.

[atomic badge]

@digital carbon well..it's a general SWE role (new grad)..but the recruiter said I could choose my team..so would go for backend..just wanted to mention none are ML

@autumn lynx it's in IS&S - not disclosing exact team for identity purpose 😛

And thanks guys for all the help! Asking this on Blind next

[frosty wedge]

Am I too late for job search, if i want to graduate this May 2021 (PANICKED)

[digital carbon]

Well it probably won't make a difference in your choice since it's Apple vs Twitter, but just know that Bloomberg team matching doesn't guarantee you'll get on any particular team

[nocturne relic]

I think it went ok (no response yet ofc). Some resume/project questions, and the coding questions are more a mix of data structures and design rather than straight leetcode.

[worthy lake]

@frosty wedge No you’re never too late

Just keep applying to many places

Some people get offers in like March or April at the latest

[feral marten]

You can only use this command in #2021_grad_process or #2021_intern_process

[atomic badge]

Yup..deciding mainly between Twitter and Apple

[grizzled moth]

Has anyone interviewed with General Motors for the position: “Your 2020 Early Career Talent Interview”? I got an email to participate in an online interview and assessment, powered by HireVue, as the next step in the application process.

[marble pond]

ppl at twitter seemed really happy

[cerulean mist]

Hey, has anyone done the Pure Storage Hackerrank yet? What's the multiple choice section like?

[barren wadi]

What are we expected to fill that box? It's vague

[rocky carbon]

probably just the initials of your first/last name?

[mint pollen]

if I graduate December 2021, is a good time to start heavily applying is in like may-aug?

[half oar]

Has anyone given OCI Phone screen coderpad round?

[sleek briar]

LinkedIn for me! I use that far more than any other websites.

[fleet turret]

does anyone write cover letters anymore?

[worthy spear]

anyone do JP morgan’s OA?

[jovial hedge]

i did

[ivory trench]

@storm badge Software Engineer New Grad - Frontend

[ornate charm]

Anyone know how long c3.AI takes to respond after first round?

[fleet niche]

Anybody done system programming interviews before? I have one coming up and have no idea what to expect

All the recruiter mentioned was studying concurrency primitives lol

[sacred tide]

Anyone interviewed at AWS whom I can ping?

[fringe kelp]

does anyone know if Google will open up new grad 2021 positions this month?

[old trail]

This is my random opinion but highly unlikely, fb and google have huge intern classes they try to convert to FT and covid also likely affected headcount

[digital carbon]

I think Google is actually doing ok now (apparently their ad revenue rebounded in Q3), but they still didn't start hiring new grads soon after that rebound

so I agree, seems unlikely

[vagrant raft]

It seems late to start new grad hiring now

Especially since their process takes a while

[digital carbon]

ehh, google knows people will renege in a heartbeat to work there

they think too highly of themselves (as evidenced by the lengthy process lol)

so idt that's holding them back, if they needed to hire they would do it

[atomic pivot]

sucks to be a google simp

[late kindle]

@digital ridge sure

[mystic mica]

I have not, but if I got it, I would ask if we could pretend the doubly linked list is already implemented

cus implementing that takes up a chunk of time imo

[spice breach]

I personally know 2 people that just got hired at google as new grad

[half walrus]

def not the very first time, but after studying it/practicing it, I got it down fast. The issue is if you implement it too fast, then that's kinda sus and your interviewer might suspect youve done it before, so you gotta find the balance

[spice breach]

LRU cache can be solved with python OrderedDict()

[mystic mica]

the thing is, I feel like, LRU cache is one of those questions that a lot of people know how, if you try to do it without having seen it before you're gonna be too slow or not get the optimal solution, if you do it with having seen it before you're gonna wanna jump straight to optimal solution, if you try to cheese with orderedDict() or LinkedHashMap<>() it defeats the point of asking the question

i'd definitely prefer LRU cache >>>> LFU cache tho

[half walrus]

LFU cache is gg, even knowing the implementation its too long

[mystic mica]

is lfu even doable in o(1)

[half walrus]

yea, iirc you have hash map with the key being frequency and value being DLLs

because the min frequency always changes by exactly one, you can keep track of it without needing to recalc

[winged kelp]

Uhhh. In order
Yes; if I remember to do it
Sure why not. Don’t reject yourself. Let them reject you if you don’t qualify

[candid dagger]

Any idea whats the tech stack for AWS Redshift development teams?

[cunning needle]

So recently I gave an interview, it was a leetcode style interview with 15 mins of behavioral and 45 mins of 2 questions (1 easy , 1 medium). I got 1 right but I could only do half of the medium question and ran out of time. It was one of my off days as I knew the solution to both.

Should I email the recruiter about this? That I had a bad day and I would like to regive if given an opportunity

[exotic cave]

How big is the company you interviewed at @cunning needle

[cunning needle]

Not so big , medium sized

[exotic cave]

In my experience, companies won’t let you redo unless there were some particularly unique circumstances. The larger the company, the less likely.

[half walrus]

One thing you could do is write up the solution to the medium problem and send it to your interviewer, but no guarantees

[exotic cave]

I’ve done that before and my email was ignored. For all they know you spent all day working on the problem or just looked it up

[half walrus]

right if it works at all, it only works if you do it right after

[exotic cave]

Yea fair. In my opinion, @cunning needle it’s probably best to just send a positive followup and hope for a good outcome. Send a thank you note to your interviewer (s) and some follow up questions if possible.

[atomic badge]

The person with the Apple offer could you please DM me? Had a couple of questions!

[exotic cave]

The way I see it is if you send an email asking for a redo it highlights the fact that you didn’t get the question fully right. They also may view it as though you’re asking for special treatment in which case that’s not a good look either. But if you stay positive and send follow up questions it highlights your passion for the role and may allow them to overlook parts of your technical performance.

[cunning needle]

Yeah, its a series of 3 round interviews , like a final set of 3 rounds. I guess if I do well in the next round I might have a tiny chance of doing well overall. So let's see how the next 2 rounds go on Monday.

[exotic cave]

Yeah 100%. The other two rounds are already your chance to show them that you had an off day on the first one.

Good luck

[cunning needle]

Thank you bro.

[brazen bough]

Anyone interviewed with Atlasssian for Backend Software Engineer position?

[candid ice]

Does every Microsoft new grad get assigned to Washington? In the salary sharing thread, I don't see any bay area salaries

[iron gate]

i know a converted microsoft intern who's working in the bay

he's working for github though

[mint pollen]

which language do u guys like to use for coding interviews?

[cursive loom]

Python

But that's just cuz it's syntactically easier

It's just a matter of personal preference

[autumn lynx]

python 100%

[digital carbon]

python because it's so much faster to go from idea -> code

[quick lodge]

i code in assembly

[iron gate]

i use scratch

[mint pollen]

pog assembly

[unkempt echo]

c++

[random knot]

java

[granite flax]

morse code

[native saffron]

machine code

[trail osprey]

Binary

[random knot]

unary

[unkempt echo]

punch cards

[digital carbon]

mfw have to take a bug out of the vacuum tube for the code to work

[half walrus]

whats after the bloomberg phone interview? Is it onsite or is there one more?

[slim lake]

virtual onsite

2 tech interviews back to back

[half walrus]

are the q's generally harder for virtual than phone?

[slim lake]

they're apparently at the same level, but I have yet to give mine

[half walrus]

okay word, is there system design or is it j leet?

[slim lake]

Just leetcode. There may be rare case of system design in hiring manager interview, but afaik that hasn't really happened

[arctic drift]

I got a LC easy on my egr* manager round

Lol

[half walrus]

okay cool, pretty straightforward then

[ornate charm]

Any of y’all get system designed for Bloomberg?

System design questions*

[slim lake]

I've been solving the problems on Leetcode Explore for Bloomberg to prepare

[digital carbon]

Some people get 30min sys design in the hiring manager round, depends on the manager tho

[steep oriole]

That's so unfair lol

[digital carbon]

🤷‍♂️ some managers are chill, others have higher expectations

[native ruin]

Do I need to get both Amazon coding questions to get through? Only got 1 =/

[steep oriole]

How do you prep for sys design?

[digital carbon]

Uh I've never prepped it myself

But if I had to, I'd probably use:

• Designing Data Intensive Applications
• System Design Primer
• Reading companies' blog posts on how they scale
• Watching conference talks that are related to systems design

[half walrus]

bruh

[digital carbon]

I already kinda do the last two out of personal interest, but haven't actively prepped for sys design

[half walrus]

damn, I hope its like easier system design

[spice breach]

you can just throw OOP at the sys design and hope it works KEKW

[steep oriole]

I actually did that in my Bloomberg phone screen

[spice breach]

nice

[digital carbon]

oh yea also some companies that asked me design questions were more along the lines of "design the API and database schema for this app"

rather than asking about scalability specifically

I'm not aware of what exactly bloomberg asks

[steep oriole]

I've had that too. Like SQL table design for efficient querying. That sort of stuff is manageable.

[digital carbon]

yea those are pretty doable

[half walrus]

damn, looks like I need to study more

[tight ruin]

All the system design interviews I had were more focused on algorithmic/math stuff, or actual process of what different portions of a data science pipeline would do to the data and why. But I’ve been interviewing more for ML stuff

[dusky robin]

My BB manager round was all behavioral/asking him questions about BB

But they did have a hackerrank link in the email so I think getting coding questions in that round is possible

[whole yoke]

Is there any discord channel for Microsoft?

[mystic mica]

csMajors discord has a channel dedicated to specific discord servers for companies

there was an MS one in there that you can check out

there's also the community channels in here

[cursive oasis]

https://discord.gg/unKMTVaHjq

[keen onyx]

Did Instacart hire this season?

[whole yoke]

thank you!!

[worthy spear]

i toss a 1/0 coin to create binary code

[granite flax]

i prefer the quantum approach and non-deterministically write all possible code combinations

[sullen forge]

What to expect in microsoft phone interview ?? Its not for new grad but sde1.role at Azure ... any help is appreciated. Thannks

[feral marten]

Unable to locate data on Voleon

[last linden]

company name sounds like a pokemon

[cursive loom]

It's an eeveelution

[lyric jay]

!salary Intuit

[feral marten]

https://www.levels.fyi/salary/Intuit/

[haughty kestrel]

has anyone interviewed for belvedere's product analyst position by any chance

[ornate charm]

does c3 always ask system design?

[echo berry]

I only got OOD for my virtual on-site (applications team). I’ve heard of system design questions for the platform team tho

[graceful hazel]

!problems amazon

[feral marten]

!problems can only be used in #leetcode-bot

[rocky carbon]

how long did it take to hear back from c3 after applying @ornate charm ?

[ornate charm]

Close to a Couple months p sure @rocky carbon

[arctic drift]

Study both

That’s what I did

[azure ember]

I am asking this on behalf of my friend, who has received an offer from NetApp (Raleigh, NC) & Nordstrom (Seattle, WA). Almost similar compensation and similar work profile. Any views on which one should be chosen?

[slim lake]

what's blind 75

[odd hull]

https://leetcode.com/discuss/general-discussion/460599/Blind-75-LeetCode-Questions

[arctic drift]

Money will go further in NC if that’s what they’re worried about but moving to Big N might be easier in Seattle and don’t have to take flights and shit for interviews post COVID

[velvet glacier]

Tiktok 1st technical round. Any help/tips appreciated.

[carmine adder]

Lc hard

[wooden tangle]

I have a weird problem guys. I worked at this company for 7 months, recently quit, but I didnt write a single line of code while working there and I always run into weird issues when Im asked to talk about my work there during final round interviews

I did do a little tiny bit of drupal but thats it

this was as software engineering job btw

im not joking, the place was an absolute mess, i mostly "sat in" on their bootcamps, trainings lectures, and other weird stuff

[granite flax]

tell us everything you possibly did, do not be selective, right here and now, from making the daily coffee to cleaning the toilets, whatever

we are pros here, we will help u craft something

there is also the ancient forbidden technique of lying/stretching the truth

ok your new position is "Professional Sanitation Engineer", go forth my friend

[wooden tangle]

I did some stuff in drupal to make a site that documents the internal APIs so that developers can look them up quickly, But basically I messed around for a week to make a slideshow of images on the mainpage

and then absolutely nothing for 2 months, I didnt even look at my laptop

got paid tho

[mystic mica]

just like Google STEP interns who put "SWE Intern" instead of "STEP intern" on their resume

[granite flax]

tell us what you

• did
• were supposed to do
• wanted to do ideally

[wooden tangle]

But the company does use Java Spring which I used at a previous internship so Im planning on using that experience to pretend like I did stuff on the last place I worked

cuz drupal is big poop

[granite flax]

bullet 1:

• used drupal to develop responsive web application that served as official reference for internal-use API's

[mystic mica]

so you made an internal tool to automatically help engineers categorize internal APIs for their current transition into java spring

[wooden tangle]

yes exactly

[mystic mica]

yeah make that more official sounding like what bean said

and u got a nice first bullet

[granite flax]

actually i like dia's wording too, use both

[wooden tangle]

Well it was more like a document page with OpenAPI

[granite flax]

"developed internal tooling"

[wooden tangle]

but yea whatever

[granite flax]

list ALL technologies

[mystic mica]

also here's a free bullet:
• participated in scrum meetings and code reviews in a collaborative Agile setting

[granite flax]

ayye be real with us did u goof off or not talk to ur superiors

if so, learn from dis

[wooden tangle]

Kinda, I did email them when I first started but they never responded to me. I was in this early career program and had to sit thru these lectures about finance (it was a finance company), but really I just left my laptop and left on because they were long and useless with nothing tech related. Then they put me on that ass Drupal project even tho none of the other developers wanted to use Drupal but our managers manager really wanted drupal and wouldnt tell us why. And I tried to get off of it but was just ignored. Then I had to do a presentation for the early career program thing which took some time to prepare. Then I got put in a "tech bootcamp" 6 months in and I got annoyed that they wouldnt give me actual work to do so I told my boss off and they paid me to resign so I wouldnt sue them

[granite flax]

that's quite an experience

[wooden tangle]

yea it was an absolute mess of a company

[mint pollen]

@mystic mica stealing that

[mystic mica]

@wooden tangle final product :
• Created an internal tool using Drupal that categorized [name of platform] APIs and served as an official reference during an internal transition to Java Spring-based microservices
• Deployed to production after verifying with QA and SRE teams that the tool meets internal quality standards 🤡
• Participated in scrum meetings and code reviews in a collaborative Agile setting

[polar laurel]

nice.

[snow kayak]

https://startup.jobs/

[sonic cave]

Is this allowed? just wondering

like would they go full-on lying about how their internship was for google sde instead of google step?

[digital carbon]

Some people have no chill, I'm sure some at least try to pass off their STEP experience as real SWE experience

It might come back to bite them in a background check though

[chrome sage]

Does anyone had manager call for AWS? What to expect

[granite flax]

sophomores be moving up their grad date on their resumes so idk, i think you can get away with it; still don't think it's good to do

[digital carbon]

idt grad date is one of the things a background check catches. But for jobs, I'm pretty sure the background check company at least checks you 1) worked at the companies you claim to have worked at 2) you had the titles you claim to have had

[mystic mica]

People who change step to swe intern get away with it because

You don’t give the background check company your resume

You give them proof that you worked there

So you can tell the background check company “I worked at google, my position was STEP intern”

And they tell the company “yeah this kid did in fact work there, everything checks out”

Only if they give a shit

?

Only if the company gives a shit

About what the background check returns

What kind of misleading info

[granite flax]

i believe you on the rescinding but

[mystic mica]

Something like changing step intern into SWE intern?

[granite flax]

i've never seen a thread on it here or reddit, etc

[high thunder]

just be honest lol

[granite flax]

feel like u gotta goof up BIG TIME to get rescinded

i think my only worry is at a previous job my bosses hated me lol

at the end, cuz i stood up to em for their abuse

[mystic mica]

I could definitely be wrong about this, but as far as I know, for most companies, your resume isn't sent to HR for cross-reference with the background check

[granite flax]

also what if you lost all contacts at the previous job? you just provide the office number?

[mystic mica]

That happened to me

I just gave them my offer letter + W2 forms

[digital carbon]

Yea pretty much. They just need to confirm your employment, they don't have to give an opinion on how good of an employee you were.

[mystic mica]

i'm p sure the background check service just tells the company

• this person does/does not have a criminal record/offenses
• this person did/did not in fact work at the places they claimed to have worked at
• as long as you're not turning "financial analyst" into "software engineer" I feel like you're fine, there's a huge amount of variation in SWE titles such as "junior developer", "entry-level developer", "associate swe", etc. that it's common enough to normalize them on a resume into "swe" imo, although I would give the correct title to the background check service to avoid any confusion

[digital carbon]

That's true, once you already get an offer, the company giving the offer might not care as much what your titles were

[mystic mica]

my understanding is just, as long as you give the background check service the correct title, all they tell your employer is "yeah this person worked there"

ppl who got rescinded due to misleading info, maybe that's for incorrect date ranges or wild misleads, but I could be wrong lol

[wooden tangle]

Dia is right, Ive changed position names (not like it really mattered because in some positions I didnt really have an name) and it was no issue. The background check reports that I got back just confirmed that I worked there

[worthy spear]

Name is just a name. I'm sure the experience of it checks out as the same work it's fine.

[cursive loom]

shit what is happening

[zinc dawn]

Anyone gave Amazon SDE PART-2 recently? Any tips to look out for?

[cursive loom]

is this OA2?

[zinc dawn]

Ya

[cursive loom]

just 2 LC meds in 90-ish min

just do amazon tagged qs

for prep

[zinc dawn]

I see

Ok sure

Thanks!

Do they ask graph or trees? Or its not predictable

[mystic mica]

yes, some of the OA2 problems are graph/tree-based

[zinc dawn]

Is it from leetcode only?

[cursive loom]

dont assume that it will be

they are leetcode styled questions though

[winged sequoia]

can some one apply for an internship after there graduation and be accepted?

[tight ruin]

Depends on the company. Many auto reject if you don’t have at least a semester or two left

Others allow it

[hoary herald]

Anyone heard about pipp at Amazon for new grads? I heard lots of new grads get pipped, how long do they wait before they pipp people, and are these generally good programmers who aren't good enough for amazons expectations or slackers?

[digital carbon]

I've heard mixed things, but it seems like you do have to be underperforming to get PIP'ed. Now what exactly constitutes underperforming can vary wildly from team to team, so I can't comment much on that. Fwiw, Amazon seems to hire a lot (understandably, they're a growing business), and imo they need to compensate for it by "skimming the fat" more aggressively. Also worth noting that because Amazon hires more than other companies, the odds of hearing people complain about PIP goes up just because of the sheer number of engineers at Amazon.

[dapper dock]

What's pip?

[digital carbon]

performance improvement plan

basically you're told "if you fix these issues, we'll let you stay, otherwise we'll have to terminate you"

in practice, pip is basically like soft termination because almost no one is kept around after their pip period ends

the nice thing is you get some time to interview and are still getting paid while on pip

so it's better than being fired outright

[chrome sage]

Has anyone interviewed for New Grad role at Adobe?

[arctic drift]

Iirc I think it’s 50% get fired and 50% get off or something — I read smth on blind about it

[digital carbon]

Ah interesting, 50% getting off is pretty good

Higher than I expected anyway

[ornate charm]

Anyone know what palantir on-site consists of?

[shrewd umbra]

if anyones interested in making spare cash my friend needs help with data structures (java) coursework

dms are open

[grand tangle]

I did

[cunning needle]

Any tips on the 30 mins final interview for Amazon new grad

[west skiff]

you may have gotten the meme final, which is a review of your OA

[bleak mica]

Does Roblox just send OAs to everyone? I don't even have any visa for the US at all lmao.

[arctic drift]

Yeah they do

[bleak mica]

Ah okay, I guess that's gonna be a quick reject then lol.

[arctic drift]

yeah I've heard they're done hiring int'ls but I'm not 100% sure for the record

[balmy nest]

Hi did anyone interview for micron? I have a interview coming up for system software engineer role for their hse team, please let me know if anyone has idea about what type of questions they ask and what to prep

[quick lodge]

Got a VMware recruiter call coming up any pointers on what they ask?

[atomic badge]

Leaving this server..until next time. Best of luck to everyone!

[drowsy sentinel]

Has anyone gone through the team matching process with Square?

[mystic mica]

may your LC be easy and your TC be high

[worthy spear]

what are some websites to apply to full time jobs for new grads?

[wind acorn]

Good luck!

[dapper dock]

How much is the difficulty on Roblox OA questions

[kindred jetty]

I got 1 leetcode easy, and 2 mediums if I remember correctly\

I solved all 3 but didn't get an interview

What websites do you guys use for job search? Besides handshake, linkedIn and indeed

Also, what keywords should I be using when I search for jobs, I'm looking for something in full stack or backend web development

[wooden tangle]

@wide solar what was ur interview for sambanova systems like?

[karmic jolt]

@ornate charm it's 2 leetcode rounds (~med - hard), one debugging in java, and a system design round

[native saffron]

Will the debugging round be hard?

[karmic jolt]

I think the debugging wasn't too bad, was more of a test on how you would go about solving a bug if you found it more than actually completely fixing everything

[native saffron]

Got it got it, thanks!

[karmic jolt]

ye np, gl

[slim lake]

Has anyone got any callbacks for Twitter New Grad?

[rose zodiac]

After how many days of OA3, did you got the email to setup the interview?

[cunning needle]

1 or 2 days max

[mystic mica]

it's going over your OA2 (so know how you did those problems) and the rest should be LPs:
https://medium.com/@scarletinked/are-you-the-leader-were-looking-for-interviewing-at-amazon-8301d787815d
https://pastebin.com/UX5cnVkc

u got the meme single-30 min final round, just have an LP ready for every scenario

[cunning needle]

Got it. Much appreciated.

[kindred jetty]

what's an LP?

[mystic mica]

it's in the links I sent lol

leadership princples

[kindred jetty]

gotcha

[keen onyx]

Thoughts on Adobe vs Amazon for New Grad?

[mental frigate]

Adobe

[karmic jolt]

in my area, adobe office is super selective and the pay / perks blows everything out of the water (like bay area pay in a low/med col) so I'd say adobe also but I have no idea if that's an outlier or the standard since the salaries I've heard are from 4.0 students w/ research papers

[keen onyx]

Any particular reason(s)?

[mental frigate]

Nope. It's just better company culture, pay and people

[vapid dune]

If im graduating december 2021

when should i start applying

idk ask me in a year

lol

i mean if i see its gonna be a bitch to find something i can delay graduation asnd get an internship for fall

which might be what im gonna do anyways

cause im applying to all the big companies with openings i see for falll

[solar tulip]

Hey everyone, I got an offer from Twitter and I'm having trouble deciding between NY and SF.
Personally I would prefer NY because I ultimately want to end up in Finance (HFT, algotrading etc.) but my whole team is in SF and a lot of my friend are telling me that the west coast is where it's at.
Can anyone give me some advice?
PS: The compensation is the same, both city are interchangeable for Twitter

[patent cloak]

@solar tulip if you want to end up in finance, then I would go with NYC. Personally, I prefer NYC to SF and plus I think it’s more difficult to land a nice NYC job vs SF due to the supply and limited companies

[digital carbon]

So just to clarify, are your friends also gonna be on the west coast, or is that not a concern?

[solar tulip]

Thanks for your insights! From what I'm seeing you're right, it's harder to land a nice job in NYC

[solar tulip]

Some will, but that's definitely not a concern as I don't have any problems making friends

[patent cloak]

Hmm to add onto this, if you want to end up in finance, then maybe go to the west coast while you have the chance? Since you’ll probably be in NYC in a few years anyways. Idk it’s tough

[digital carbon]

Oh I see. Then given your interest in finance for the long term, NYC is a no brainer imo

[digital carbon]

That's a valid take too

[solar tulip]

There's that too! But I'm more interested in LA than SF, and twitter doesn't have any LA office, so I don't think I'll regret SF

Also, in terms of weather, I'm currently living in Montreal, so I'm used to Winter

[digital carbon]

I'd be more concerned about the remote working situation if your whole team is in SF

[solar tulip]

My real concern is if it can impact me in any way by being so far from my team, especially in terms of inclusion and mentorship in my first year

[solar tulip]

Exactly...

[digital carbon]

Doing WFH across a 3 hour time difference is tough

Not to mention it'll be tough to socialize with coworkers

[solar tulip]

Another really valid point

[digital carbon]

I guess given those circumstances, makes sense to go to SF first

[mystic mica]

WFH with a 3 hour time difference is more annoying than you think

I'm saying this as someone who is doing that for a remote internship rn

[digital carbon]

And then maybe you can transfer internally to get to NYC down the road

[mystic mica]

I'm on east coast and I work on west coast time

I get to wake up at 10:45am to catch the 11am est/8am pst scrum but, I end up working until it's dark, around like 7-8pm est

also being remote kind of sucks ass for onboarding

you better love video calls and getting to know your team members through zoom :<

don't let me discourage you, but i'm just giving you my personal experience with it lol

[solar tulip]

Damn, those are some very valid points, amazing insights guys! 🙏

I'll ask my recruiter if I can have a call with my hiring manager and see if he can give me some insights too

Cause right now my heart wants NYC but my brain is telling me to go to SF

[shadow cedar]

Guys, how much does a F grade matter to companies? Due to stupidity of a professor and certain time constraints, I ended up getting an F in a subject. My other grades are fine. I dont want to waste money by taking this course again. Does it hamper my chances of getting the 1st job??

[nova cipher]

what subject

[shadow cedar]

Data representation

[digital carbon]

what's your GPA after the F

[shadow cedar]

3.22

[digital carbon]

you're fine

as long as it's >3.0, most companies don't care about grades in individual subjects

[shadow cedar]

Ohh, great

Thanks for the insight!

[slim lake]

Anyone got any replies from Twitter for new grad? I just got a mail saying they'll let me know if I'm moving forward within 7 business days

[noble nest]

Yup got the same email

[tight ibex]

Anyone interviewed with Peloton recently?

[iron gate]

also got the twitter email too

[solar tulip]

Two of my friends got the twitter email too

[mystic mica]

same

I feel like twitter rarely hires outside of their intern class

[peak dirge]

Anyone here do Pinterest new grad Karat interview? Would appreciate if I can reach out to ask some questions🙂

[tight ibex]

I did a karat interview recently for Peloton

[grand tangle]

Anyone interviewed with Eventbrite?

[cunning needle]

I did

[mint pollen]

when do u graduate?

[placid merlin]

Anyone take a VMware final? Any advice/insight?

[ornate charm]

You don’t need to put ur GPA in ur resume. Most companies don’t even ask.

[shadow cedar]

You don’t need to put ur GPA in ur resume. Most companies don’t even ask.
@ornate charm yaa, i saw that too. But sometimes they ask for transcripts, for those instances I am worried

[digital carbon]

Nah if you don't put it, they'll assume it's less than 3.0 and probably screen you out

[polar laurel]

They mostly ask for transcripts maybe after u pass the OA/Final interview stagte

[slim lake]

May

[shadow cedar]

They mostly ask for transcripts maybe after u pass the OA/Final interview stagte
@polar laurel and maybe then I can explain why i got an F, if they ask? Sounds good

[polar laurel]

They prob won't ask

Is ur gpa > 3.5?

[digital carbon]

they said it's 3.22

[ornate charm]

My gpa is quite terrible so I don’t put it on my resume and I’ve had luck getting pulled

Its def my school name that’s pulling for me tho

Anyone had an on-site with palantir recently?

[digital carbon]

berkeley right?

[ornate charm]

Yessir

[digital carbon]

yup, makes sense then

[ornate charm]

However I feel if ur cs major anywhere, u don’t necessarily need to put ur gpa, but if it’s 3.5 or above, then it can’t rlly hurt.

Idk I could be wrong tho

[digital carbon]

it just depends company to company imo. If most companies screen at 3.0, then it doesn't hurt to put anything that's >= 3.0 on your resume.

[wind acorn]

i just saw someone on reddit use a new acronym for top tech companies: FLAMINGASS

[polar laurel]

@ornate charm Yeah i mean UC Berk is really good so gpa prob matters less

and lot of companies prob target it anyways

[hallow ether]

is twitter just going to mass reject everyone in 7 days lol