2021_grads

[whole yoke]

I put all elements

and then only popped k

[digital carbon]

ok yea so it's possible to do better

[whole yoke]

thats the ideal approach

how?

[digital carbon]

you keep a min heap of the top k elements

and a hashmap for the count/value for every element

if you find an element with a value greater than what you find from peeking the heap

then pop from the heap and push in the new thing

but the challenge is also updating values that are already in the heap

I don't remember how I did that

[whole yoke]

bro, you can only access the max/min element in O(1) in max/min heap

the rest cannot be accessed.

Bloomberg loves design questions

[digital carbon]

wdym by accessed? if the class you're designing has a method printTopK() then you can just iterate the entire heap

[whole yoke]

yeah... I meant we can't directly access elements in the heap... just keep popping from the heap..

are you sure of your approach?

[digital carbon]

oh idk what language you use but at least in python it's possible to iterate all elements in a heap

[whole yoke]

I used C++

really? damn.. interesting

[digital carbon]

well I moved onto the next interview round after the career fair so I hope so lmao

[cursive loom]

jw, how do u iterate through a heap in python without popping/pushing

[whole yoke]

exactly ^

[digital carbon]

the underlying data structure is just a list

[whole yoke]

nope

its a tree

[cursive loom]

i mean yes, but like

[whole yoke]

a max-heap is a tree structure

[cursive loom]

if u iterate through it

its not in the sorted order

is what im saying

at least in my exp

[digital carbon]

it's not necessarily sorted, no

[cursive loom]

u gotta pop for it

[silver bone]

This is accurate

[cursive loom]

found that out in an onsite round

[whole yoke]

max-heap only supports pop/push

[digital carbon]

does the question require them being sorted?

[cursive loom]

luckily i was able to fix it xd

i think my version did

[whole yoke]

question says find top-k stocks by volume

[cursive loom]

but it didnt have the time part ofthe question

[whole yoke]

and then followup with streaming stocks

another tip for bloomberg

interviewer can see on hackerrank if you change tabs

so don't try changing tabs

interviewer knows everything you're doing

[digital carbon]

well that's a tip for any company that uses hackerrank but good point lol

[whole yoke]

yeah

[digital carbon]

if you need the output to be sorted then yea you'd need to pop everything and then push everything back in

or just sort the backing list

[whole yoke]

http://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/aspnes/pinewiki/Heaps.html

[cursive loom]

ye u need to pop

[whole yoke]

"A heap is a binary tree in which each node has a smaller key than its children; this property is called the heap property or heap invariant."

[cursive loom]

the implementation of heap in python via heapq

is a list

in all accounts

[digital carbon]

ok yea but a heap is always implemented with a list, where the children of i are at 2i+1 and 2i+2

[cursive loom]

(almsot) anythng u can do to a list

u can do to a heapq heap

[whole yoke]

"Implementing a priority queue using an array or linked list is likely to be expensive."

[whole yoke]

true.

[worthy cedar]

i mean lists are arrays under the hood, no?

[whole yoke]

Implementation is a list. But we cannot iterate through a heap like a list.

We need push/pop

how?

[digital carbon]

they used cpp so maybe not in cpp

[whole yoke]

how do we access elements in a heap like a list?

[digital carbon]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4484767/how-to-iterate-over-a-priority-queue

yea looks more annoying in cpp

[cursive loom]

lol to iterate over a heap just do for val in heap

that wont do it in the sorted order

[whole yoke]

dude really???

[cursive loom]

u gotta pop, and keep track of what uve popped

in python, yes

[whole yoke]

nice...

[cursive loom]

err

its not in sorted order

for that

u gotta pop

[digital carbon]

python is OP for interviewing

[cursive loom]

keep track of what uve popped

and once ur done

heappush back the elements u've kept trakc of

[quick lodge]

people who interviewed at Oracle, how long do they take to schedule your phone? I sent my availabilities 5 days back and was supposed to schedule it this week starting from Tuesday. Did i just get ghosted? :/

[whole yoke]

no man^

Oracle OCI??

[vocal carbon]

even in c++, if you use make_heap you can use a vector to back it no?

[quick lodge]

corporate architecture

[whole yoke]

ok..^

[vocal carbon]

Then you can iterate over it normally, albeit not in a sorted manner

[whole yoke]

then there is no point of the heap ^

it would be just a list

[vocal carbon]

Different use cases no?

[whole yoke]

but point noted

iteration of a heap is possible in python. noted.

[vocal carbon]

I need it to act like a heap for these times, and just need the list of items for this one time

[whole yoke]

got it...

makes sense

[digital carbon]

huh? you can still manipulate it like a heap with push_heap and pop_heap to get the same time complexity

[whole yoke]

I dunno.. all I know is that !process Bloomberg reject

any other companies in nyc hiring new grads?

dont say G, FB

[vocal carbon]

even the example here does what we are talking about: https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/algorithm/make_heap

[worthy cedar]

@whole yoke can't say those 2 bc they aren't hiring lol

[whole yoke]

I did that ^^^^^^^

I did that ^

interviewer wants improvement

told me how to deal with 100,00 stocks

100,000*

and then streaming

[mortal temple]

talk about tradeoffs between memory and big O runtime

[whole yoke]

hmm...

[digital carbon]

wait you said before you keep all elements in the heap

did you keep all elements or only k lol

[whole yoke]

I'm a masters student maybe the interviewer expected terms like Map-Reduce etc.. but I didn't tell her all this

oh damn

[worthy cedar]

ya NlogK vs NlogN time complexities

[whole yoke]

I kept all

[worthy cedar]

yea keep K in there

[whole yoke]

fuck

[mortal temple]

or you can keep k elements and whenever the size is greater than k, pop out the top

[vocal carbon]

leetcode has solutions too? damn thats nice

[whole yoke]

I kept all in my heap

fuck

[dusky robin]

Ooh I got this question for my BB onsite

[whole yoke]

that's why

[dusky robin]

The solution they were looking for was treemap

Not heap

[digital carbon]

lol they love this question idk why

[worthy cedar]

someone give me a bb onsite plz

[whole yoke]

fuck

the interviewer asked me how to do in java

[worthy cedar]

treemap is a hashmap that retains sorted ordering of key

[dusky robin]

Its used to trade off the topK and the update method

I got lucky cuz the day before I had seen a very similar question on leetcode

[whole yoke]

what do we have for a treemap in c++

which similar question?

[worthy cedar]

so if u input 1:1 5:5 3:3 2:2 in that order and u want o iterate through the treemap it is 1,2,3,5

[dusky robin]

Look up the leaderboard question on leetcode which is bloomberg tagged

Its almost identical to topK stream of stocks

[worthy cedar]

is c++ ro python the one where dict is ordered dict automatically?

and u have to instantiate unordered dict to get regular hashmap

[mortal temple]

yes

[dusky robin]

Ya i used the Java treemap class and was able to pass

[cursive loom]

python is ordered by insertion

[digital carbon]

yea at least not in the standard lib

[worthy cedar]

oh so python's is a linkedhashmap?

[vocal carbon]

lol i assumed that a python set was ordered like that too during an interview. nopez

[dusky robin]

Lol ur right, they ask this alot it seems

The nlogk heap solution is a solid brute force solution

With the update/add being O(1)

[sly nebula]

i liked this solution a lot https://leetcode.com/problems/lfu-cache/discuss/207673/Python-concise-solution-**detailed**-explanation%3A-Two-dict-%2B-Doubly-linked-list

you can adapt it to the top k problem

[dusky robin]

Nah they told me after i first mentioned the heap nlogk solution

That they want to optimize the topK method more

[digital carbon]

jfc what lol

[whole yoke]

lol

[dusky robin]

At the trade off of update

[sly nebula]

ok it looks complicated LOL

[dusky robin]

So thats when i switched to the treemap

[vocal carbon]

that diagramn makes my head hurt lmao

[sly nebula]

but like the idea is just buckets for each frequency, but each bucket is a DLL and that second hashmap maps from a stock name to the node wherever it is

[whole yoke]

then you said treemap?

[dusky robin]

Correct

[digital carbon]

mfw trying to confuse the interviewer so they don't realize I can't actually solve the problem

[whole yoke]

how long does it take to geta reject after phone screen?

[vocal carbon]

mfw trying to confuse myself so I don't realize I can't actually solve the problem

[whole yoke]

lol

[dusky robin]

Thats a good question LOL

I dont know how u do treemap in other languages

[whole yoke]

exactly

[digital carbon]

this is discrimination against snakes, it cannot be allowed

[vocal carbon]

snekks can go up trees

[dusky robin]

Ya same only heard in java

[vocal carbon]

from java import treemap

[dusky robin]

If i used a diff langauge id have failed that interview

[whole yoke]

People got damn simple questions for BBG phone

[vocal carbon]

works fine in python i promise

[dusky robin]

Was the first time ive experiencee that

[whole yoke]

they got insert, delete, random O(1) level questions

how tf do i know treemap in c++?

[dusky robin]

Wait this was for phone??

[whole yoke]

yes

[dusky robin]

My phone was a super simple sliding window

[worthy cedar]

wait how is treemap any better

[dusky robin]

I had this for the onsite

Treemap is better bc

Its ordered keys

[whole yoke]

I finished the nlogk approach and behavioral in 20 mins

[dusky robin]

So the topk is O(k)

Vs nlogk

[whole yoke]

^damn

[dusky robin]

But the update is log(n)

Vs O(1)

[digital carbon]

it's cleaner, but the heap vs. treemap solutions have diff tradeoffs

[dusky robin]

Ya the heap is O(1) update nlogk for topk, treemap is O(logn) update, o(k) for topk

[whole yoke]

MSFT has been keeping me on waitlist since October 1st after my phone screen

[worthy cedar]

heap is logk update tho

[cursive loom]

Ye

[dusky robin]

No bc

[whole yoke]

I have begged the recruiter I need to interview..

[dusky robin]

U use a hashmap with the heap

[worthy cedar]

ur referring to pop/add toi heap?

[dusky robin]

U use the heap only for the topK part

And a hashmap for update

[worthy cedar]

ok i think im just not followin what we're talkin abt lol

[whole yoke]

lol

[dusky robin]

Lets be real thou if i ever coded this thing in real life id always use the heap solution

[whole yoke]

is Bloomberg a good company? for future growth?

I mean as a swe?

Do we get transferable skills?

[vocal carbon]

the heap soln def is more intuitive

[digital carbon]

that's a very open ended question and you'll get many different opinions lol

[whole yoke]

or we only work on 2000s legacy tech

I wanted to ask this to my interviewer

but then said screw it

[worthy cedar]

nah it's not legacies

[digital carbon]

it's not really legacy tech but rather proprietary tech, though many teams are trying hard to migrate to open source solutions

[whole yoke]

yeah ^ that's what I've heard

[digital carbon]

like the proprietary stuff has solid support and is very easy to integrate into applications at bb, but you obviously wouldn't be able to use them outside of bb

[whole yoke]

guys, off topic question - 160k TC in seattle vs 170k TC in NYC? what's better?

[worthy cedar]

depends on where u wanna live

[whole yoke]

exactly

[dusky robin]

Seattle but both are good

[whole yoke]

I've heard seattle is gloomy af

[worthy cedar]

if u have a 170ko ffer in nyc why do u want bb @whole yoke

[dusky robin]

Bb can top 170k if u negotiate

[vocal carbon]

nyc for me too

[whole yoke]

I was talking about BBG ( just counting my chickens before they hatch lol)

[worthy cedar]

yes but my point is only a marginal improvement from 170k @dusky robin

[digital carbon]

they'll go up to 175 at most for new grad as far as I could tell from the salary sharing thread

[worthy cedar]

@digital carbon he's masters tho i heard they get more

[dusky robin]

Ah yeah makes sense

[whole yoke]

but isn't nyc a shithole... with rats and the subway dirty af?

[worthy cedar]

or can get more

[digital carbon]

oh masters

[worthy cedar]

LOL @whole yoke

ok i mean it'sn ot that much of a shithole

[digital carbon]

have you been to nyc lol

[dusky robin]

Bruhh

Nyc is nice wrf

[whole yoke]

I've been loads of times bruh

[worthy cedar]

like there's homeless ppl but every big city has shit like that

[vocal carbon]

ah yes idk why anyone would live in nyc

i am moving to iowa after i graduate

[whole yoke]

loollllll

sorry no offence dude^

I heard seattle is a shithole too

[dusky robin]

Ya i think the highest masters offer i saw from bb was 185

Recurring

[worthy cedar]

@vocal carbon ur moving to iowa too? going to new jane street office?

[whole yoke]

bruh BBG gives 210k for masters for the first year

[dusky robin]

Ya for first year

[digital carbon]

well if I can get paid 250k to live in a shithole I'm down

[whole yoke]

150+20+(40-60)

[vocal carbon]

yes sir the mary jane office, wanna join?

[whole yoke]

damn

jane street.. congrats dude

insane

[worthy cedar]

i am personally offended for nyc residents on behalf of major mike tango's opinions

[whole yoke]

how much is the tc???

[vocal carbon]

260k base + 160k bonus

[whole yoke]

300kc at JS in iowa??????

[vocal carbon]

so 420k tc

[worthy cedar]

for their iowa office 50k-800k first year entirely dependent on performance

[whole yoke]

WHAT THE FUCK

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

[worthy cedar]

so prepare urself for 80 hrs/week

[mortal temple]

oh no he bit the onion

[arctic drift]

that was not my offer lol

[worthy cedar]

[whole yoke]

420K in Iowa is 1.2 Million in NYC

Nailed it dude congrats

Invest in Tesla

right now

still a good time

[digital carbon]

@whole yoke I can't tell if you understood the joke or not

[whole yoke]

so there's no offer from JS?

ok

[digital carbon]

no...

[vocal carbon]

nope

[whole yoke]

man

I was seriously happy for you

420K TC in Iowa is like amazing af

[dusky robin]

420k TC might buy all of iowa

[whole yoke]

lol

[worthy cedar]

real talk what company and position do u need to be to make 400k in a suburban area

i'm not raising my kids in nyc

[whole yoke]

NYC is a shithole

rats everywhere

[worthy cedar]

[whole yoke]

and then pay state tax

seattle zero state tax

[vagrant raptor]

inherit ur family estate

[whole yoke]

bruh

i feel

google colorado is the best office in the us

google colorado hands down

[vocal carbon]

why iowa?

[dusky robin]

Im gonna miss the free bananas 🍌

[whole yoke]

lollll

^amazon

[digital carbon]

becoming a consultant after gaining 10-15 years of experience is the way to go if you wanna make bank

[worthy cedar]

the play is to move to los alamos nm and make ur kids qualify for usamo in 7th grade

[whole yoke]

what type of consultant?

[dusky robin]

Roblox

[whole yoke]

tech or management consulting?

[digital carbon]

tech consulting

[dusky robin]

Thanks man

[whole yoke]

how does one get into tech consulting?

[dusky robin]

Ive literally only interned at amazon thou before

Im gonna miss it

[whole yoke]

like what do we need?

[digital carbon]

experience + having a network to get clients

[vocal carbon]

are people still waiting for roblox

feel like half this server was waiting for them

[whole yoke]

wait so we do it independently or in a company to make bank?

[digital carbon]

that I do not know

lol

[whole yoke]

is it worth it to do an mba after a masters in computer science? i don't wanna write APIs all my life

my tc will be 160k

in seattle

zero work ex

they dont. but then they remain on the engineering side

like they still work and oversee engineering

[vocal carbon]

what do you want to do

[mortal temple]

you should probably decide after you get some more experience and determine what you want to do

[whole yoke]

product management

I wanna work with product

[unkempt echo]

there is almost*** 0 reason to get mba directly after undergrad

[whole yoke]

ideally Product@ FB, G

[vocal carbon]

what are the almost reasons

[whole yoke]

I don't like sitting and using the debugger every now and then

[digital carbon]

I mean isn't product management still on the tech side at those companies? what am I missing

[unkempt echo]

finish 3 yr undergrad and do a 1 yr masters to do the "traditional" 4 years, get into a fully paid MBA program, be deathly allergic to your undergrad degree's concentration

MBA is mainly for career pivot

really gives no value unless u have 1-2 years of work experience under your belt

[whole yoke]

yeah ^ but we don't use any tech tools as a PM, SWEs do that

[vocal carbon]

agreed, that was the only one i could think of too

[digital carbon]

then I don't understand the reason for needing an MBA

[unkempt echo]

you dont need an MBA for like 99% of "x" management roles in tech

[whole yoke]

Is mean, is it worth it?

[whole yoke]

exactly

[unkempt echo]

MBA is losing its value but

[whole yoke]

I'm making 160k TC right now,

[unkempt echo]

its good for people who want to move to pure business roles, and people who want to start their own firms

[vocal carbon]

or could make an exception for some stellar cs+mba degrees, but that's mostly because i wanna see how they are lmao

[unkempt echo]

and people who just want a masters

[whole yoke]

after mba I'll probably make 180kc after investing 250k

and losing income for 2 years

there is a huge opportunity cost

[unkempt echo]

after 2 years you'll make more than 180k

masters or not lol

[whole yoke]

yeah

[vocal carbon]

cries in euro

[whole yoke]

I think masters in cs is overrated af

[unkempt echo]

many ppl also just do a HYS mba for the network

to start their own company

[whole yoke]

bachelors in more than enough

[whole yoke]

true

[silver owl]

i mean if you're doing it for the money yeah

but cs research is getting pretty exciting these days

[whole yoke]

dude

[unkempt echo]

MS CS definitely better than MBA but still limited number of ppl who would do it

[whole yoke]

if you go into cs research

[digital carbon]

it's not lol, the only people who do masters are either intl students or students who just wanna learn more

everyone knows the opportunity cost is otherwise not worth it

[arctic drift]

idk if MS CS is better than MBA just by virtue of idk if MS CS was even worth it

[whole yoke]

then it will lead you to a research engineer, applied scientist or research sceintist positions

[arctic drift]

I haven't learned jackshit lmfa

o

[whole yoke]

how to become a CEO of a company?

like Jack Dorsey

[arctic drift]

do a PhD for research

[whole yoke]

like Satya Nadella?

[digital carbon]

LOL nice

[arctic drift]

MS =/= PhD

[whole yoke]

Like Sundar pichai?

[silver owl]

i somehow managed to interview for robotic motion planning

as an undergrad

but i legit woulda went to grad school over amazon canada

[unkempt echo]

MS CS is good if ur already in a lab and wanna get ur name on some publications

but you prob wont get an industry research role without phd

[vocal carbon]

man i wanna do a masters because it'd be interesting, but i can't justify at all

[unkempt echo]

isn't interest in itself a justification

[vocal carbon]

have been trying to justify for like a year now lol

[unkempt echo]

its 1 yr out of a potential 40 year career

[arctic drift]

Also imo MS is at best an industry supplement vs PhD is actual research imo

[digital carbon]

get your company to pay for it then do OMSCS, ez pz

[unkempt echo]

yeah if you're doing masters for research then you're in a pre-candidate phd program anywho

[silver owl]

canada has thesis masters with stipend

[vocal carbon]

it's not the $$, there's a bunch of other factors for me that makes it not worth

[unkempt echo]

thats pre-candidate in the US, you can choose to quit phd after getting the masters

[arctic drift]

if you're spending like a year or two on smth you're not gonna get very far lol

[unkempt echo]

and its subsidized

[silver owl]

i did spend some time doing undergrad research and my biggest beef w research is that people jist shit out code, publish, and then call it a day

[unkempt echo]

and i dont think many ppl would take masters thesis seriously unless its groundbreaking

[worthy cedar]

hiru r u japanese

[cursive loom]

lol

[whole yoke]

OMSCS IS THE BEST

the actual best

[unkempt echo]

half

[whole yoke]

One of my teammates at my company did his OMSCS at GaTech after a BS in Pyschology

He makes 200k now

[unkempt echo]

@cursive loom is japanese

[cursive loom]

????

donde esta la bilbiotecha

[worthy cedar]

is he japanese or a weeb

[cursive loom]

????

ochinchin dai suki da

[unkempt echo]

he ascended into full japanese

[vocal carbon]

who is not a weeb

[daring crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[mortal temple]

can you be a weeb if you're japanese

[cursive loom]

thats hiru

[unkempt echo]

wot

[vocal carbon]

can you not be a weeb if you're human

[cursive loom]

biggest weeb i know

[unkempt echo]

yes lol

[cursive loom]

i have never seen someone b more degen than hiru

[unkempt echo]

wtf

[vocal carbon]

deep down everyone is a weeb

[unkempt echo]

gimme ur signing bonus

[cursive loom]

wtf

[mortal temple]

damn get him hiru

[cursive loom]

gimme ur genshin

[whole yoke]

I love Japanese people

amazing peole

[unkempt echo]

why japan sucks

[whole yoke]

great country

super hard workers

I love japan

really

[worthy cedar]

what time do u go to sleep hiru

[cursive loom]

4 am

our time

[vocal carbon]

japan is a shithole

[whole yoke]

NO ^

NOT AT ALL

[unkempt echo]

like

not too late lol

[whole yoke]

Japan is the actual best

[cursive loom]

hes in japan r n

[whole yoke]

I want to go to Japan one day

[unkempt echo]

as someone from japan i would never live in japan

[whole yoke]

bruh

[cursive loom]

LMAO

worldview being shattered

[whole yoke]

Japan is the best place

[cursive loom]

not every place is roses and rainbows

[whole yoke]

I think they're the smartest people in the world.. small country, great tech

[cursive loom]

every place has its own shitholes

[unkempt echo]

dont think id ever live outside the us

[cursive loom]

me neither

cant imagine living outside the us

even rn

🤔

[unkempt echo]

u dont even have a citizenship

like not a single one

[cursive loom]

wtf

gg

i am stateless GG

[worthy cedar]

cant imagine living outside or inside the us

cant imagine living

[cursive loom]

same

[whole yoke]

Bruh

Japan>> US

Anyday

[unkempt echo]

in terms of what

[cursive loom]

terms of otaku merch

[whole yoke]

Japan has Reiko Sawamura. Nuff said.

[cursive loom]

i have 0 idea who that is

all i know is

[whole yoke]

LOL

[cursive loom]

FUCK

u baited me

[whole yoke]

she's the worst of them all.

[cursive loom]

gg

[whole yoke]

asa^

[vocal carbon]

should not have googled that 😦

[unkempt echo]

well

[languid orbit]

Bruh she's 46

[whole yoke]

bruh

[cursive loom]

bruh

[unkempt echo]

rip my corporate search history

[whole yoke]

that's why^

[cursive loom]

gg

[whole yoke]

lol

[cursive loom]

rip ur return offer gg

tainted forever

[whole yoke]

lol

[unkempt echo]

time to get blacklisted

[patent cloak]

Just got asked an obscure LC hard by tiktok 😭😭

[mortal summit]

has anyone ever thought of a scenario where they just won't ever know where to start with a question in an interview and that it might be easier to just give up lmao

like how do you even declare that "you're giving up", 1 round into a 3 round onsite

hasn't happened to me (yet) but just a thought experiment

[raw jacinth]

[digital carbon]

well honestly if it gets this bad then the company fucked up bringing the candidate on-site to begin with

[mortal summit]

good point

[raw jacinth]

cap 🧢

[digital carbon]

?

[wind acorn]

whenever I'm stuck I just start thinking aloud and usually interviewers will help steer me in a good direction

though I've also had a couple interviewers that don't say anything during the interview after giving the prompt and those interviewers are the worst

it's like they're not even paying attention to me smh

[old trail]

Just start talking about the solution and potential ways you could get there mentioning various data structures you can potentially use. If there’s nothing just say you can only think of the brute force approach

Sometimes they let you start by coding up the brute force

[digital carbon]

It goes both ways, some people say they like active interviewers and others find those same interviewers disruptive

[languid orbit]

^^
My interviewer was one of those peeps. However, when they notice that you're getting somewhere, the usually start paying more attention

So, try that if you're ever stuck in that situation

[worthy cedar]

ngl i kinda vibe with the ones that don't say shit

they let me think properly

[undone abyss]

anyone interview at the company ramp before

[wide solar]

Same. I sent them on Wednesday. Haven't heard back.

[ornate charm]

Does everyone who gets palantir OA also get a recruiter call? Or is it based off the OA?

[warped lion]

has anyone done the orchard oa yet?

[drowsy sentinel]

I did the orchard oa

[sterile field]

Did anyone give Tiktok data science online assessment?

[mortal summit]

yeah

data science or data analyst*?

[dreamy charm]

I think it was the same for everyone

4 questions

first one was easy, last three were difficult

If you scroll up earlier, people were talking about the TikTok oa

[sterile field]

data analyst

[mortal summit]

there were 3 sql questions

pretty easy imo

the last one required a window function

but otherwise very simple

[azure gull]

Anyone get a full time offer from ibm? How long did it take to get the offer after final round interview? It’s been exactly two weeks now and I haven’t heard back yet

[visual lagoon]

You might want to send them a followup email if they didn't give you any timeline

[azure gull]

Thanks I’ll do that in the morning, waiting sucks😭

[visual lagoon]

I'm in the same boat bro but with different company. I'm sending mine soon too😬

[azure gull]

Best of luck brotha

[vocal carbon]

Anyone here knows how long HireRight checks take?

[sly saffron]

Can we get referrals for Microsoft after we have submitted the application?

[latent cipher]

@vocal carbon it was like a day and a half/two days for me

[mellow vault]

Anyone have a template for letting a company know you will not be accepting an offer?

[feral marten]

You can only use this command in #2021_grad_process or #2021_intern_process

[slim holly]

Anyone ever reschedule the amazon phone interview ?

[worthy spear]

I was planning on it but one of the attachments I read said that you might not be able to due to the lack of availability on their end.... You can reach out to a recruiter about that.

[spice belfry]

yes

[clever escarp]

based off the OA i think

[spring verge]

i got a call without doing the OA

[atomic star]

my new grad offer letter mentions the number of RSUs I'll receive, but it doesn't mention their value

is this common?

on the verbal offer the recruiter told me how much the RSUs were worth, but I don't see it anywhere in the offer letter

this is a pre-IPO company

[spring verge]

def ask about it

there was a conversation a little bit ago here about how pre-ipo company stock is basically worthless

[atomic star]

wat

[spring verge]

unless you know for a fact they're gonna ipo

[atomic star]

oh

they're really close to IPOing

😄

[hybrid folio]

anyone here with a new grad offer to MongoDB? or currently interviewing with MongoDB?

[spring verge]

and you're gonna be around for long enough to be there

when they do

then u might be getting a really sweet deal, def check in with your recruiter tho

[atomic star]

yeah it's not 100% for sure but everything points to early 2021 ipo

yeah I'll ask about the valuation

the way I understand it

RSUs are given at a specific valuation? e.g. if the company is worth 1B, I'm given 1000 RSUs at that valuation

nvm I'll look up how RSUs work lol and I'll talk to my recruiter, thanks

[gloomy temple]

If it's likely an early 2021 IPO and you're optimistic about the company's IPO, then it's a lot better to get a number of RSUs than be given a dollar amount in the offer letter, assuming you start mid-2021 as a new grad

Because if it's a dollar amount, they probably decide your RSU grant around a month before your start date, which could be too late to benefit from the IPO jump

[digital carbon]

I believe they filled headcount with interns. I don't remember anyone interviewing with them externally

[hybrid folio]

ah okay. i just got phone for them and i had a few questions in terms of switching to different offices across the US is all

[digital carbon]

you got a phone call for new grad?

[hybrid folio]

oh no, i got phone for intern

[digital carbon]

ah gotcha

[hybrid folio]

im interested in interning with them if it means i could move a potential return offer to one of their texas locations

[cerulean pivot]

i talked to a director there a few months ago and they don’t seem to be moving remote

they want ppl in nyc

it’s worth asking just have 0 expectations lol

[hybrid folio]

ight

i see that they have offices in austin and plano so im just curious

[harsh loom]

How to share salary? Is there a form or bot command

[tired bay]

Instructions pinned in sharing channel

[plucky hinge]

gg tiktok I just got absolutely SHAFTED by their interview question and ran out of time after I figured it out

Why that so gd hard

If anyone wants to hear about the question you can dm me

[karmic saddle]

lol same...almost cried in my interview

[dusk linden]

anyone aware of the process of when do most of the companies file H1B's? Does anyone have a clear understanding about taxes/salary revision applicable when working in a state different from one stated in the offer letter . Also is there any rule regd mandatory presence in the same state as office location during the WFH in lieu of the pandemic (esp. in regards to H1B)?

[cunning forge]

if you'll be working at a quant hedge fund or prop shop as a trader, quant, or swe next summer/full-time, join! https://discord.gg/SmjwdSkc

[whole yoke]

After the shitty Bloomberg phone screen, I just got a virtual onsite invitation ... Time to grind!

Next dates are on Feb 2, 2021 so that sucks

[harsh loom]

Damn I thought they moved fast

My phone interview is next week

[whole yoke]

first phone screen?

[harsh loom]

yup

Is there more than 1?

[whole yoke]

nope

my interview was 25 minutes including behavorial.. prolly my shortest interview ever

Just practise "Why Bloomberg?"

[harsh loom]

do you go through the same new grad pipeline as undergrads?

[whole yoke]

I made some bs and the interviewer wasn't convinced

uhh

yeah

[harsh loom]

thats wild there's such a big gap between the phone and onsite

[karmic jolt]

wait @whole yoke are you saying that your phone interview was purely behavioral? I remember getting grilled during mine last year and it was for intern

[harsh loom]

no it wasnt he's saying it was that short INCLUDING the behavioral portion

[whole yoke]

Got" Why BBG?", and top-k stocks with followup for streaming stocks ( which I couldn't do)

[karmic jolt]

ah ok, nvm that makes sense

[tacit lava]

has anyone done the seatgeek virtual onsite?

[wind acorn]

is that AMEX offer entry level?

Is Software Engineer III entry level?

[mild sparrow]

!salary seatgeek

[feral marten]

Unable to locate data on Seatgeek

[sullen forge]

what to expect from recruiter call at @SAP ? Its just 15 -20 min scheduled call. TIA

[meager sparrow]

anyone interview with bny mellon last week during their superday and hear back yet?

[azure gull]

Yes

[autumn lynx]

what round is this

[sullen forge]

After OA

[raven vessel]

Anyone interviewed with Microsoft's Azure Compute team recently?

[autumn lynx]

its all star based behavioral questions

like situational

[sullen forge]

oh ok.. Thank you so much

[stuck fable]

anyone know what to expect from SAP final round (selection committee interview)?

[spiral glade]

My friend was asked a puzzle, then resume + behavioral questions
40 minutes

[ember scaffold]

Hi, does anyone know of any websites offering free mock interviews with Software Engineers?

[sly saffron]

@codep Pramp and interviewing.io

[ember scaffold]

Just to confirm, interviewing.io is with Software Engineers?

[sly saffron]

yes, there are two options peer-peer interview and interview with FANG engineers

I think the first two peer-peer interviews are free

Then you can buy 3 interviews for $20

I personally feel it is better than pramp because you get more detailed feedback

[tired bay]

Walmart is done with their old opening for Fall 2020 but have opened a Spring 2021 link

https://careers.walmart.com/us/jobs/WD436697-2021-campus-software-engineer

[atomic badge]

What's the difficulty of Apple and Twitter in comparison to OCI and Bloomberg? This is for new grad/entry-level position.

[fast siren]

!salary bloomberg

[feral marten]

https://www.levels.fyi/salary/Bloomberg/

[fast siren]

!salary new grad bloomberg

[feral marten]

Unable to locate data on New Grad Bloomberg

[harsh loom]

you can search in the salary sharing channel for bbg and theres a bunch

for new grad

[worthy spear]

Does it matter whether if you were the first interviewee?

[drowsy sentinel]

Has anyone interviewed with Vanguard?

[spring verge]

has anyone heard anything back from Redfin post interview?

[spring verge]

I think it's very company dependent. Some like to wait till all their final interviews and then take the top X people, others are on a rolling basis and just keep taking people that hit the bar until they're done hiring

[worthy spear]

Ooh ok thanks! The hiring manager told me that they're only interviewing like 15 to 16 people

[undone abyss]

yeah do you have the superday coming up?

[drowsy sentinel]

yeah can I dm you?

[rocky spoke]

how do u post in #new_grad_salary_sharing ?

[undone abyss]

yeah no worries

[ornate charm]

Does anyone know how the palantir karat technical is? I’d appreciate any insight 🙂

[harsh loom]

Instructions pinned in that channel

Will Bloomberg ask masters new grad candidates tougher questions than undergrad?

[high thunder]

You should know more

[harsh loom]

Yeah I’m not a masters student lol, I’m just reading up on common questions for bbg and was surprised by the difficulty until I saw the person was an MS. Just hoping it’d be slightly easier for undergrads

[rocky spoke]

@harsh loom thanks

@ornate charm it's just standard algos questions. Nothing complicated. Try to do 2-3 if u can

[ornate charm]

Thanks bro. Wdym do 2-3 if u can? Like practice problems or???

[rocky spoke]

During the interview try to complete at least two questions

[ornate charm]

Ohhhh okay. Ty

[dusky robin]

Their Karat starts with like 3 trivia questions for the first 10 min. Then for the last 50 it was two LC easy/med that built upon each other

[atomic pivot]

[atomic badge]

Whoever's posted the OCI offer, can you DM me? I was told that perf bonus is not guaranteed and is given to only top performers..did your recruiter mention a 15% bonus (cause this looks like the standard new grad offer)?

[unborn remnant]

Any idea about what can I expect in first round (via zoom) of Credit Suisse Technology Analyst Program ?
It will be around 30 mins

[languid orbit]

Hey does anyone know how many round FB has for new grad?

[patent trail]

I'd also like to talk to the person who posted the OCI IC3 offer.
I recently interviewed with them, and had some questions.
Could you please DM me?

[rocky spoke]

OCI was me

@atomic badge The recruiter told me the bonus is not guaranteed hence why the y dont advertise it as much, but pretty much everyone gets it unless ur doing very badly

[rocky spoke]

also i think i meant to put IC2

[cerulean mist]

Anyone interview with Twitter yet?

[atomic pivot]

Is PayPal recruiting new grads

[drowsy sentinel]

Has anyone interviewed with IXL?

[patent cloak]

@atomic pivot very few locations

[glass crown]

Do you have a MS?

[devout bobcat]

Anyone have any tips on bloomberg new grad interview with senior engineer? Asking for a friend

[rocky spoke]

@glass crown yes

[vapid river]

Anyone have experience negotiating with microsoft

[mental frigate]

@rocky spoke did you negotiate with OCI?

[rocky spoke]

Nope

it's the standard offer they give

[drowsy robin]

Should I schedule amazon final rounds right before christmas, or risk it and wait until after the new yrs

[tired bay]

They already started waitlisting people early the better

[subtle helm]

No, but I got that insta-reject after taking their OA 😎

[rocky spoke]

@drowsy robin i scheduled mine late last year after xmas for internship and got put on the waitlist. If I had scheduled it before christmas im almost certain I would've gotten the internship

[bleak mica]

If I said I was interested in city A but now decided I'd probably rather go for city B, should I bring that up during my final interview or only if I get an offer already?

[tired bay]

Offer negotiation stage

[bleak mica]

Sounds good thanks.

[drowsy robin]

thanks. Ive heard USA waitlist started already, not sure when canada waitlist will begin (for full-time new grad) options are up to dec 14 - 23 and jan 7-8.

[rocky spoke]

Yeah take it asap imo. I also think too big of a gap until ur final onsite is never as beneficial as it seems. If you've been doing interviews and OAs, it's best to keep that momentum going and schedule the onsite as soon as possible

[silver bone]

I negotiated my offer

[fresh orbit]

Do people know what companies are changing to allow employees to work from home forever now? I think I heard about this for twitter and facebook positions, anyone got a list? I really need it, I might be switching states a couple times to follow my wife (who will be in medical residency) and our kids.

[orchid ibex]

Shopify

fully remote

[severe jay]

Dropbox Quora are remote first

[subtle helm]

!salary Cruise

[feral marten]

https://www.levels.fyi/salary/Cruise/

[autumn lynx]

Should you call a recruiter to decline an offer or is that extra

[visual lagoon]

that's better than leaving it to expire

[cursive loom]

Would an email not suffice?

[visual lagoon]

Personally I think email is enough

[woven juniper]

Atlassian is remote first

[tired bay]

Twitter

[rocky spoke]

random question, but anyone here good with netsec? Specifically CSRF and XSS? I need help with my homework lol

[autumn lynx]

Ok yea I was just gonna email idk if people normally call or not

[tired bay]

Nah email is fine phone can just be awkward

[drowsy sentinel]

What was the first phone interview like?

[wind acorn]

Add Square to the list

[wind acorn]

wait like no more offices for shopify?

like they're closing them permanently?

[marble pond]

@rocky spoke meee

[atomic star]

yeah

sucks imo because the offices were nice

[thorny mango]

Anyone else just get the Amazon OA?

[atomic star]

i think they were planning on using the offices for some stuff but said people will work from home 99% of the time

[digital carbon]

is it just me or is 100% remote culture not that appealing

I kinda liked working at the office

most importantly, I feel like team bonding is far less likely to happen in remote working conditions. Like the team I interned on this summer usually gets lunch together regularly and hangs out after work on Fridays, but everyone was just doing their own thing over the summer.

yea I hope so too lol

[granite flax]

for sure, hybrid is king

[patent trail]

Anyone moved past the first interview of TikTok?

[wind acorn]

wtf noooo

[wind acorn]

💯 the free food, snacks, drinks, and also the clear separation between work & personal life

working remote I've found it's wayyy too easy to work more hours/OT

[orchid ibex]

It’s the worst

Working from home has increase my stress levels by a lot

[cerulean pivot]

damn that sucks

i like working my own hours

[autumn lynx]

im the opposite. i just dont feel like working at home

[cerulean pivot]

this is like over the edge tho

i would like to go outside and work at a cofee shop n shit

not wfh 5 days a week

[autumn lynx]

yeah hybrid is it. i dont always wanna be at work either. i also wouldnt mind going to work and nobody being there.

[ornate charm]

Palantir recruiter asked me what my priorities are in a company and one of the ones I listed was “a good work life balance”. She then asked me, “what does good work life balance mean to you?”

[digital carbon]

You talking to the wrong company lmfaooo

[ornate charm]

I said ten hours a day after that bc I knew she might have a heart attack if I said 8 hours...😭😭💀😭

[digital carbon]

Lol "I value WLB but am willing to work 10 hours/day if it means getting a fat paycheck"

[ornate charm]

You know how it be

[digital carbon]

It do be that way sometimes

[ornate charm]

I told her nothing like 80 hour weeks and she responded saying “yeah that would be gross”

🤣🤣

[digital carbon]

Fwiw I don't think palantir has horrible wlb, it's just that they have a ton of freedom and some people don't know how to create boundaries between work and life

As far as I could tell when interviewing with them

[ornate charm]

How was the process for you?

[digital carbon]

Uh kinda weird, basically I got an internship offer from them last year. Hit up my recruiter again in September saying I was interested in interviewing for new grad, got fast tracked to hiring manager round.

[cerulean pivot]

l0l

[worthy cedar]

dam how do i even get an interview bruh

[digital carbon]

The first time I met them was at school career fair

Tbh I have pretty bad luck cold applying lol

My resume must be shit

[worthy cedar]

do u mind me asking what school u go to

[digital carbon]

rutgers

[cerulean pivot]

rutgers target school

@timber stump r u proud

[timber stump]

yea rutgers target school

[high thunder]

UCF #1

[stoic yoke]

@digital carbon RU represent. Didn't realize Palantir went to the career fairs. Where are you going full-time if I may ask?

[digital carbon]

yea they came last year, idk about this year. I'll be joining bloomberg full time

I met bloomberg at the career fair as well

my career would be non-existent without the fair LOL

[stoic yoke]

Oh wait just realized we dm'ed before 😆

[digital carbon]

we have?

oh that was a while ago, yea I see lol

[ornate charm]

I think they also come to Bay Area schools

Referring to Palantir^

[rich flame]

so i accidently chose python as my desired coding language for google

but i realized im more comfortable in java

would they care?

[mystic mica]

Sort of, Google tries their best to match you up with an interviewer who works in your language of choice

[rich flame]

damn alright

[mystic mica]

Probably won't be a dealbreaker but it's in your interest to try and email your recruiter and just let them know

But also, is this for new grad?

[rich flame]

yeah

[mystic mica]

They're not hiring/don't have the new grad 2021 position open until like january i thought

[rich flame]

i mean i should be fine with python

this for cloud technical residency

[mystic mica]

ohh ok

[rich flame]

im more familiar with data structures in java

[mystic mica]

if it's a phone screen, and you're stuck with python, then just have a cheat sheet next to you

with how to declare common stuff

and you should be fine

[rich flame]

its a final round

but it'll be lc easy

so im not worried too much

[rustic ruin]

lmfao so many snakes here

[languid orbit]

??

Lol, I don't get it

[real walrus]

Looks like they both interviewed for HRT and the guy in the pic tried to get the questions from the OP while lying that they already did it

Just a guess tho

[patent trail]

Does anyone know if the second and third round interviews at TikTok are for coding questions or behavioural or system design - for a new grad role?

[old trail]

2nd round was coding for me
Third according to my recruiter is: “The focus will be behavior, the hiring manager may also ask a coding question as well.”

[patent trail]

Awesome! Thanks @old trail .

[last linden]

the three interviews are basically 2 coding and last behavioral

they make it sound like you have three rounds of technicals then an onsite

[old trail]

Yea it’s just 3 rounds of 1hr it then offer stage

[past mantle]

Anyone know what the OCI new grad process is like?

I applied back in September and a recruiter just reached out to me lol

[rough atlas]

anybody heard anything from two sigma? I got a location preference form but nothing else since

[normal panther]

i got that form too. nothing afterwards @rough atlas

[rocky spoke]

snakes are the worst

[boreal sequoia]

Hey, has anyone completed the Pure Storage OA? It says 11 questions.... What should I expect?

[sly saffron]

@torpid cedarklat it was MCQs and coding questions

[worthy spear]

So I received this email "Thank you for accepting the invitation to interview on:

Monday, December 21,"

But I never got an email about the invitation. Should I tell them that I didn't accept the interview?
Like I guess Monday is fine but I would never accept an interview on a Monday because that's when most of my family members are home.

[cursive loom]

definitely let them know

[worthy spear]

Emailed the recruiter and he said that
he was told to schedule them. Due to the holidays everyone is very limited in their schedules, this is the only time the whole panel is available.

[cursive loom]

ah, thats tough

[worthy spear]

Yeahhh

I asked if it was behavioral or technical and he said technical.....should I ask him like what topics I should be preparing for or should I just assume it's the languages they asked on their job post

[cursive loom]

thats pretty vague and non-descript lol

maybe ask if its LC or sys designish

[worthy spear]

Thanks!

[foggy ravine]

does anyone know how the at&t tdp position is, i got an offer but not sure how at&t is as a company for SWE

[old trail]

It’s a rotational program so you end up switching around teams before it’s over

You should ask your recruiter if you’re guaranteed swe positions

[foggy ravine]

yeah i think they said i am, have u gone through the program?

[old trail]

No, I’ve been to the LA office and talked to some ppl through a recruitment style event, this was 2+ years ago

Employees^ when I say ppl
Have had some friends intern there as well

[vocal carbon]

What other positions can you end up in?

[old trail]

according to the website: : Software Engineering, Data Analytics, Network Engineering and Technical Business Management.

its been a while so i dont remember, but at least 1/2 of their tech stack is super outdated so i prob wouldnt recommend workign there over a traditional "tech" company

[foggy ravine]

ya i told them i'm interested in SWE, and they asked me SWE specific questions during the interview

[grand tangle]

Has anyone interviewed for Intel SE position ?

[spice flame]

has anyone done tiktok final round? what does your application portal say?

[vocal carbon]

ahh ok I always assumed rotational programs just cycle you throw SWE stuff across different kinds of teams

[stuck hull]

why are there so many different salaries for bloomberg new grad in the salary sharing thread?

is there a standard, and then ppl just negotiate?

[full shore]

Yes

[stuck hull]

oh, cool. is the standard the 150, 20, 10?

[digital carbon]

Master's students get paid a bit more as well, so that's probably another source of variance

[worthy spear]

Can you negotiate your salary if you don't have competing offers?

[visual lagoon]

You may. But it will be harder.

[ocean geode]

do you guys think it is too late to apply to tiktok now?

[visual lagoon]

applying takes less than 5 minutes. Sooooo yeah

[ocean geode]

u have to make an account of some sort

btw, what do you guys think about job searching during the holidays? is it even worth applying since everyones probably on break

[visual lagoon]

Well it's not that your application goes away or something when you apply during holidays

[mystic mica]

that's like every application ever though lol (if it's not with lever)

[old trail]

you're setting yourself up for failure when you think in that mindset, its better just to send out as many applications as you can regardless of outside factors

if they reject you due to reasons like that you just mve on

[autumn lynx]

The tik tok application is actually long af compared to other ones

[mystic mica]

can we talk about how crazy tiktok's resume parser was tho

that shit was mega accurate

[devout sky]

Yes

I have recently interviewed for one of their software engineer full stack roles INTEL

Has anyone else interviewed for the same position ?

[worthy spear]

In which year you are @devout sky ?

[autumn lynx]

It was good but it was kinda stupid that they have a section for projects lmao just look at my resume

[ocean geode]

@autumn lynx yeah i agree, why do they make us fill out stuff that’s already on our resume? Perhaps because of the parser reason?

[ocean geode]

Ty, do you have any other general job searching advice?

[old trail]

get referrals before you apply online or emails to recruiters

[foggy harness]

I was wondering has anyone interviewed for HCL's new grad developer role?

[worthy spear]

Anyone haven't you recommendations on how to study for a technical interview that is not like a leet code style

[atomic pivot]

What style is it then

[worthy spear]

She just said it's a mix of technical and behavioral

And that it is not leetcode style.... That's about it

[cursive loom]

Might be a workplace simulation?

Or test technical knowledge pertaining toniob

Job

To job

[worthy spear]

Lol what if the job description is vague 🤣

[spiral glade]

Guys, do you bother with the week long assignments that few companies send out as part of first round interview?
I just feel like it's a lot of effort, and I give up on it before even starting it

[unkempt echo]

well you do what you gotta do for a job if you don’t have many options but in general no don’t do those

[spiral glade]

I know that it's gonna be great if I actually get through it, but I just feel like it's a lot of effort
Idk

[digital carbon]

I don't do take home assignments that take ridiculously long. The exception would be if it's a company I really really want to work at, but I haven't been in that situation yet.

[spiral glade]

Also, if a startup approaches you with an opportunity and not much is known about their TC, how do you ask it and when do you ask about it?

Feels a little weird to pop that question on the first phone call, or should I change how I deal with these things?

It's series A company with a lot of money, and only 5 people
No one has left it yet, so can't really ask an ex employee

[worthy spear]

I looked through those and most of them are just behavioral questions. Also, the position is kind of new (like this is their second year)

[worthy spear]

What's TC

[spiral glade]

Total compensation

[cursive loom]

Total comp

[spiral glade]

Base +stocks + bonus

[worthy spear]

Ohhhh you can go through the interview process and see if you get an offer at the end. But if they already gave you an offer but not the total compensation then just ask straight up about it

^ forgot to write this but if you do get an offer at the end, you can ask them "what's your total compensation?"

[spiral glade]

Oh, that's the thing
Their interview process is very elaborate
I don't want to do it unless their TC is something that I can live on (just not too low, because it is in a high COL area)
For other known companies, you can guess the approx TC
Cool, I'll just go through the process ig

[spiral glade]

With a week long assignment for first round

[worthy spear]

It can be a good interview practice. But yeah personally I wouldn't want to ask them straight up about it.

[mortal temple]

how interested are you in the opportunity?

[spiral glade]

6 out of 10

[worthy spear]

Oof that's rough....I would ask if you can like talk to a recruiter or one of the employees about the company and their experience.

[mortal temple]

do you have any offer already

[spiral glade]

Yeah

[worthy spear]

😬 I wouldn't do it if you're only 60% interested in it.

[mortal temple]

if you're already happy with your offer I would personally suggest just not doing it then

[spiral glade]

Welp, I just got my answer ig
Thanks guys

[spiral glade]

I would assume that the questions would be on your projects and internships, just be prepared to go deep into anything mentioned on resume
Also, look up Amazon leadership principles interview questions. You can answer any behavioral at any company if you are prepped for that.
Also, some bits of os, networks etc. Just the cs fundamentals. I just went through geeksforgeeks for this. It's not the best, but it's ok
A couple of sys design. Common ones are messaging platform like Whatsapp/messenger, tiny url, Twitter

All the best for your interview

[worthy spear]

Thanks!

[spiral glade]

Assuming that the role is technical in nature
Swe or ds etc

[worthy spear]

Thanks! I'll look into the Amazon leadership principles!

[worthy spear]

Ummmm it's not really called SWE but yeah it's a technical role 😂

[spiral glade]

+puzzles, if Quant like

[worthy spear]

It is part of a rotational program so I don't know if it'll be like that

[spiral glade]

Do you mind sharing the link to the job description?
Here or dm

I understand if you don't want to

[atomic pivot]

I’ve done a technical + behavioral that isn’t LC for a startup

It was pretty rough ngl lol

[snow kayak]

AnitaB.org, Intuit, and Treehouse are partnering to launch a six-month software development apprenticeship program to increase the representation of historically excluded individuals in tech. This includes Black, Latinx, Indigenous, LGBTQ women and non-binary people. Apprentices get paid to learn during the program and, upon successful completion, can convert to a full-time software development career at Intuit’s Mountain View, CA headquarters. Must be in the Bay Area.

https://anitab.org/apprenticeship

[worthy spear]

DM'd you

[rocky zinc]

If I wanna graduate in December 2021, when can I start applying for Full-time. And if I'm graduating in May 2022, when should it be?

[tired bay]

Both kinda same next July-September and you just express you want to start in Jan/Feb to companies if u graduate earlier date

[visual lagoon]

At this point I'm just looking for internships that don't require me to go back to school after it 😂

[dry mural]

are you a 2020 grad?

[visual lagoon]

2021

[acoustic lance]

Anyone had interviews for tiktok MLE? Wondering what kinds of question they ask, coding or theoretical things

[magic sable]

Has anyone interviewed for a front-end position? Had to code something in React ?

[rocky spoke]

Yes I had one for Tesla

Ended up having to code a recursive component.. suffice to say I failed hard

[toxic sundial]

Had anyone done final interview/gotten offer with Amazon for data engineering?

[digital carbon]

🤔 what the heck exactly is a recursive component lmao

Was it for some tree structure?

[rocky spoke]

Yea was a mindfuck for me too. Ive never had to use recursion in react ever

It was basically a component that displays an image, but the get request could fail so you had to constantly fetch until it renders

[digital carbon]

Oh I see

So like the component itself isn't recursively rendered

Wait what is the need for recursion lol

Can't you just use a loop and timeout

[last linden]

while (notloaded()) { load(); }

[mystic mica]

my front end knowledge is zero but would you ever run out of call space in that case or is it just designed to repeat fetches

[rocky spoke]

My memory is sketchy.. there were several ways to do it, but i did it recursively

[digital carbon]

If it's repeating fetches you'd wanna set an upper limit like retry max 5 times or smth

[wind acorn]

did you know ahead you were interviewing for a frontend role? did they make it explicit that they were gonna ask you a React Qs? o.o

[cerulean pivot]

idk why u need to do it recursively

doesnt make much sense

just have a parent component responsible for fetching/managing the retry logic

and when fetch succeeds pass it down to teh child component

[short topaz]

Anyone know when Winter 2022 new grad positions will start opening?

[rocky spoke]

Any international students on OPT here? I have a lot of questions to ask

[gleaming sigil]

I am

[gleaming sigil]

Applied for OPT

[tidal hazel]

yep, applied, waiting to receive my EAD

[vapid river]

@short topaz they're the same as spring 2022, u just ask for an earlier start date once u get an offer

[mild sparrow]

has anyone done seatgeek phone?

[old trail]

the initial phone is just a recruiter call talking about yourself and they talk about the company and they later send you a take home assignment

[spiral lantern]

I got a Data Engineer interview tomorrow with the CEO of a startup. Any tips on what to expect? This is literally the first round.

[autumn lynx]

bruh

[mild sparrow]

after the take home

they told me i can skip the take home

so then does this mean this is the final round?

[storm badge]

Me

[ocean geode]

anyone have any good tips on how to get information about an interview from a recruiter?

[wind acorn]

@ocean geode

"Hi [recruiter name],

I hope this email finds you well. For my upcoming [round name], I was wondering if you are able to advise me on how to best prepare. Should I expect typical algorithm/data structure questions for the technical portion of the interview, or am I interviewing for a specific role [frontend / backend/ fullstack] and should I prepare for [JavaScript | React | Ember | ..] questions? Additionally, will this upcoming round have a behavioral portion?

Thank you so much!

Best,
[your name]"

I've found that most recruiters usually tell you what to expect and sometimes even give you prep material on the company's blog. But if they don't, it helps to just straight up ask

Or were you asking about feedback? If so then 🤷 usually it isn't provided due to liability I think

[zinc dawn]

I have a technical interview of Bloomberg for SE new grad.... any tips for so?

[worthy spear]

Lol whenever I ask a recruiter about the interview, they'll just tell me whether it's a technical or behavioral or both. I'll try using your prompt!

[violet jewel]

dumb question: should i start sending in my application now or should I wait until I have a firmer grasp of interview questions to apply?

[atomic pivot]

asap

[old trail]

its going to take a while before you get any responses from applications anyways so its best to apply now

[violet jewel]

thanks y’all, the journey starts tmr for me ig. now’s for sleepy time.

[gloomy plaza]

Did anyone that did OCI's final round have 2 interviews, or did you guys get 3?

[rocky spoke]

I had 3

[latent cipher]

i had 3 as well

[cunning needle]

Has anyone interviewed at Peloton Interactive for SDE roles?

[patent trail]

This is level dependent.
IC1 will have 2 interviews, IC2 will have 3, IC3 will have 5.

[latent cipher]

i had 3 interviews for the IC-1 final round, though one was behavioral

[lament niche]

i did for their android team!

[cunning needle]

Can I dm you?

[lament niche]

yeee ofc

[short star]

When I interviewed for IC1 at OCI I had 3 interviews all algorithmic and a database design question as well

[elder nimbus]

I have got Akuna Quant Dev final round coming up. If anyone had final round interview before, please @ or DM me! Would like to know the nature of the interviews. For reference, the final round is only 1.75 hours long

[atomic pivot]

does bny care alot about gpa?

I had a recruiter call before anything else and I got rejected immediately after lol

[digital carbon]

They seem like the type of company to care about GPA

[elder kernel]

Most of companies don't ask gpa imo

They don't care

[digital carbon]

Yea but consulting and finance companies are more old school and like to look at GPA still

Though tbf idk what exactly bny does so I might be miscategorizing lol

[karmic jolt]

bny definitely struck me as traditional so I wouldn't doubt if they looked at GPA

[atomic pivot]

they're old school finance ish

the recruiter liked my responses then asked my gpa and kinda went quiet lol

[karmic jolt]

though I am surprised given that they must have done some degree of resume filter if they called you right

[atomic pivot]

yeah exactly

also maybe I had to dress up abit?

i wearing an old north face shirt lol

the next person that came in had like a full on suit and tie

[karmic jolt]

it's possible, the game is to be better than the other candidates so who knows what the other people did that worked better I guess

[atomic pivot]

weird. i think i wouldnt have fit very well anyway

[storm badge]

Did anyone do the robinhood OA

[cerulean pivot]

its a general codesignal

[honest knoll]

has anyone heard of tesla's executive review process? is it still possible to get rejected at that stage?

[drowsy sentinel]

has anyone interviewed with MITRE?

[gleaming sigil]

Any December grads joining Expedia on Jan 25th batch?

[granite pewter]

its a non profit?

[light sage]

anyone do datavant final on-site?

[drowsy sentinel]

yes

[rocky zinc]

When will companies open for Dec 21 graduating students. When is the earliest I can start looking for full-time if my intern doesn't convert?

[mild sparrow]

as a may 2021 grad with no offer you're stressing me out lol

[rocky zinc]

Lol I can't apply during Jan to May just got time from Aug I guess

Isn't that worse?

[rocky zinc]

You got this bud. I see companies recruiting more now tbh

[rocky zinc]

I'm really sorry if I stressed you out 😅

[mild sparrow]

don't worry about it, i was just kidding!! but thanks and good luck to you too 🙂

[vapid river]

Dam I reneged thru email and now the recruiter wants to schedule a phone call to discuss why I'm choosing a diff company

Is this normal

[tired bay]

They just want data on how they can improve against competition in most cases

[fresh orbit]

I do not think so.

[azure gull]

Anyone get a full time offer from ibm? How long did it take after the final round?

[spiral glade]

Have faced this with startups in the past. The big ones have many to choose from so they don't mind a few renegs

[light sage]

im still waiting on reject or pass from IBM OA...

[mystic mica]

When did you take it? I took the hackerrank for their backend role on 9/30 and the recruiter only reached out to me late November and basically asked "hey lol are you still looking for jobs"

[visual lagoon]

I did mine mid August and they never reached out to me. Same thing happened last year for their internship position. I feel like they just ghost you if they are not interested lol

[light sage]

@mystic mica I took it like early november lol

[mystic mica]

lmao..yeah idk if my experience will be any indication but, how the recruiter phrased it was "you're not actually moving on anywhere, but I will now pass on your resume to hiring managers, if any teams are interested I'll lyk"

so yeah, idk if they're really backlogged from going through OAs or just...slow

or like to ghost 👻